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Jobs not the bottom line A nearby mall would fulfill
in weighing mall benefits the needs of Oviedo families
IN A Feb. 19 letter,Tom O'Connell cites a Sentinel I SUPPORT development of the Marketplace at
article in which I said the Oviedo Crossing project Oviedo. Oviedo is a wonderful place to live and raise
will bring 2,800 jobs. He then observes—correctly— children. The only downside is the distance we must
that more jobs would have been created by an office- travel to shop—all the way to Altamonte Springs or
showroom project. Orlando. The addition of Target and two restaurants
He is incorrect, however, in two areas: First, the is an improvement,but we need more choices.
2,800 represents jobs created only by phases 2 and 3. I realize the residents Of one local community are
Overall, Oviedo Crossing will bring at least 3,945 concerned about the possibility of minor increases in
jobs, many of which are already in place in Phase 1 traffic through their area, yet this concern is defi-
(Target,Chili's,Fazoh's). cient in comparison to the benefits we all would reap.
Second, we tried for four years to market the pro- The development would be a welcome addition in
jest as office-showroom and have had no takers. The our area. All of our needs could be met with one
Orlando area is overbuilt with office-showroom short drive. I greatly look forward to the approval of
space. Had the project been marketable as office- this project.
showroom,it would have been sold that way.
Sharon L.Wolfson
There is, however, a growing market for the Mar-
OVIEDO
ketplace at Oviedo Crossing, which will increase
yearly tax revenues far above those anticipated for
the original project: $4.9 million vs. $3.1 million. Too,
the.mall will generate millions in sales taxes, which
would not have come from office-showroom.And the Oviedo shouldn't let money
project overall will generate $91 million in annual
salaries.And while office-showroom would have cre- blind it to mall's problems
ated jobs mainly at one level,this project will mean a
wide variety of jobs for everyone, from students to
managers to seniors. I NEVER in my wildest dreams thought Oviedo, a
neighboring city, would be pitted against us for fi-
nancial gain by a developer intent on spoiling the
Tom Morgan tranquillity of our residential area.
Director of corporate communications The developer's concessions and donations are an
a Duda&Sons me admission that they really expect a large volume of
traffic. All safeguards promised are worthless be-
OVIEDO cause there are always ways to circumvent them.
We have no objection to the mall itself. We just
don't want traffic in a residential area. The threat
Tuscawilla residents will get that it won't be built without an access road is hog-
wash.
benefit of mall's amenities Please don't tear us asunder because of money to
ruin our residential area. We wouldn't do this to oth-
I AND several of my Oviedo neighbors are very er cities.
concerned for the positive building of a mall at
Oviedo Crossing. Harold R.SPRIN S
Tuscawilla residents should not be allowed to in- WINTER SPRINGS
terfere with a project on Oviedo's land site, merely
on the basis of an unproven cut-through traffic prob-
lem. Oviedo Crossing is needed,
Actually, the proposed intersection with "left in,
right out" traffic only, will reduce —not increase— so make way for building
traffic in their neighborhood. Moreover, Tuscawilla b
residents as well as Oviedo residents will eventually
enjoy nearby quality shopping and eating facilities. WE WANT the mall at Oviedo Crossing for shop-
Please support ik ping convenience.We need the mall at Oviedo Cross-
ing for the tax relief, for jobs, and for higher home
valuk Let's start building now.
Jasper E.Riley Vincent and Anita DiGirolamo
OVIEDO OVIEDO
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Move ahead with mall
U Differences abound over a proposed regional shopping
mall in east Seminole County. New ideas by the developer,
though, could be a starting point for solutions.
It is time for Winter Springs city corn- —
missioners to put emotion aside and _
deal with facts — time either to accept
the most recent by a mail 1 \L o- va ''
developer or offer made b
P to counter it.
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SPRINGS aeMCVaE
A year ago the developer announced that W,�,e N°ei�'"Wa
it would build a major regional shopping
mall 's.,,o ° iaaal
just outside the city's east edge. az�
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require access from the north,mall would Duda
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Beltway.
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Ideally, that connection would be by i rr Eastern
of Winter Springs Boulevard at a y way IN
Beltway
Oviedo, but residents of Tuscawilla,sa ,1
MILES �azsi Possible
sprawling u Winter Springs subdivi- mall site
spry fear upscale
that
draw traffic through opening there would
That '1standa lla residents are concerned
those people g their community, And is understandable; they P are to be reckoned with. They
community, and heavy have a
are well-organized and have beautiful
than one development blocked more
would be ruinous. That they traffic through it
about any proposed development nearby
To their good Fortune, Winter Springs is understandable. For y
holds a trump card in the Winter have fought off years they
g one, then another, threat to
gle. The city controls a 10-foot-wide invade their community.parallel to Winter Springs ease- unity.
all the way to pr1ngs Boulevard The developer's latest proposal, however,
Y Aloma and into Oviedo. That should be seen as a startin
easement must be crossed to get from the iution. It proposes
mall to Winter S rin K Point for reso-
Springs Boulevard. the r Winters two options: a road par-
Meantime, Oviedo favors the mall the boulevard, designed pangs Boulevard beneath
the city would annex, thus benefiting from through Y or ed intersection at the
additional tax revenue and designed to inhibit traffic
Of jobs the the hundreds sweetener,
mall would bring. The mall As a sweetener, it would include
would be between the Altamonte Mall and a removed for a wall along ro would include
Road;
Florida Mall in size, and it would attract
additional develo a removed but knotty Pment, including, per-
haps, mission faces. Y problem the com-
a planned medical center.
The resulting picture is not pretty. The offer will be considered by
thy has filed suit against the other, and sioners tonight in a closed-door put it,commis-
sioners
developer dances, fearing that a corn- a Mayor John
petitor will nose ahead. East Seminole and is a startin Bush wisely put it, "Phis
Orange Counties are ripe g Point."
pe fora mall. Unfortunate)
So far, Winter Springs has rejected all have continued heir some commissioners
plans to cross the easement, including wawner
that bridged thong more about how hea offer was crafted
dged the boulevard, g °pa than what it con
mall-paid police officer to keep even with a twins. That does not serve
out of the Tuscawilla subdivision.mall traffic Winter Springs.
In truth, though, The offer deserves serious consideration ��� 3
not a traffic sues an emotional issue and is a start for bar
Tusca Cutting through should the matter finally be Besides,
Willa would not be an attractive alter- court, Winter S
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y monitored by police.
It is time now to get serious.
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Letters to the editor
Twin Rivers association Oviedo Crossing development is expected to do
will add inconvenience to every trip we make. Talc,
embraces the Oviedo mall ing the kids to school,going to church or the grocery
store will become major headaches.
THE RIVERSIDE at Twin Rivers Community As- Let's keep our communities safe and pleasant,and
sociation,by unanimous vote of our homeowners hai- our roads uncongested. There's more than enough
sons, endorses the proposed development of Oviedo good shopping in the area.
Crossing, including the mall. This association repre- Bill Grodski
sents over 500 homes in this Oviedo neighborhood. WINTER SPRINGS
The tax dollars, employment and simple conven-
ience this project will bring make it a venture that Kiwanis club finds a lot
all Seminole County residents need to embrace and
welcome. to like about Oviedo mall
There is a developer interested in building a mall
in the Waterford Lakes area in east Orange County. AS CONCERNED citizens of Oviedo, the Ovie-
If that project becomes a go before the Marketplace do/Knights Kiwanis Club naturally researched the et-
hos approval, all Seminole residents will be the los- fed the mall would have on Oviedo and Seminole
en.With no Oviedo Crossing project,there is no tax County.
revenue from the land. It is our conclusion that the Marketplace at Oviedo
We applaud the Oviedo city manager and council Crossing, developed by one of the country's leading
members for their efforts in bringing this project to shopping center developers and managers, can only
reality.We urge the County Commission to continue be an asset to the county. This will be a first-class
to approve and support this project. complex providing access to quality shopping while
Maryann D.Rea complimenting the beauty of the natural environ-
ment.
OVIEDO We have taken into account the increase in the✓
If Oviedo wants a mall so commercial tax base,which is necessary to ease th
existing tax burden on residents.We also apprecia
much, put one on Alafaya the number of contraction and permanent jobs "r-
r venture will create.
THE PEOPLE who want the mall better be careful We endorse the project, not only for the reasons
or they may get what they want.And what they'll get stated, but also as a source of community pride and
will be traffic like they won't believe. enrichment. r
Every road in east Seminole County within five Cordell O'Connor
miles of the mall will be jammed like State Road 436 Charter president
is now. The road system around the mall is clearly •
inadequate, irrespective of the ridiculous "critical" Kiwanis •
Club of Oviedo/Knighti
need for a back entrance. .,•
I would like to see a mall in east Seminole. I think Oviedo turns its back on
'it should be built over by Alafaya Woods smack dab
in the middle of Oviedo. If they don't want a mall in residents living near mall 1;
their back yard, they can jump on the GreeheWay pp IS interesting to note the number of our Ovi
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and drive Seminole Towne Center.Of course,they neighbors who favor the mall,which will make sho
will have to o pay a toll. ping more convenient for them. It is also OK wi
Jon Lee them for shoppers to cut through Tuscawilla to g
WINTER SPRINGS there because it will affect someone else.
Mall will bring congestion I wonder if Oviedo has clearly thought about
9 mall traffic. The city is overtly planning on mu '
not convenience, to Oviedo traffic through residential areas because the
roads will be unable to handle the traffic.When bac
THOSE IN the Oviedo-Winter Springs area who ing out of your driveway becomes an insurmountab
support the mall and its shopping convenience problem,how will you feel about the mall?
should think twice. They want an alternative to the Think through the problems this mall will cau
clogged roads to existing malls,but what they're ask- before throwing your support behind it. I have
ing is to bring those clogged highways here. come a mall opponent, not just a cut-through op
It can take up to 30 minutes to travel the eight nent since I realized the real problems this develo
miles to the Altamonte Mall, perhaps too long for ment will cause. S
emergency shopping 'fixes." But adding 95,000 car 1 \Yhd'OER
trips a day to our roads — which the completed
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Give a green light to mall
❑ There is no compelling evidence that the proposed
mall would be detrimental to Tuscawilla. Winter Springs
ought to approve an agreement with the developer.
One must appreciate the statement Springs $1 million for dropping its objec-
of Moti Khemlani: "We did not tion to crossing the easement.
move into Tuscawilla for money. The commission has not discussed how
We moved here for quality of life." to spend that $1 million, but it ought not
Mr. Khemlani is a staunch defender of be done in haste. The first concern should
the tranquillity of his sprawling communi- be any unexpected effect of the new devel-
ty, and he and some of his neighbors fear opment. Projects of that size cannot be
that a plan to put a regional shopping mall totally predictable. Second, the benefits
nearby in unincorporated Seminole Coun- should be spread over all of the city.
ty would disrupt their peace and quiet.
Mr. Khemlani will be leading the pro-
They are concerned about a back-door testers at a public hearing tonight, as he
road between the mall and Winter Springs has done successfully in opposing other
Boulevard, which the mall developer says projects. This time, though, Mr. Khemlani
would be necessary to get shoppers to and tilts at windmills.
from Aloma Avenue to the east. As evidence of that, it is worth noting
Winter Springs Boulevard is the main that the proposed agreement has the
thoroughfare through Tuscawilla, and unanimous support of the Winter Springs
some residents, such as Mr. Khemlani, City Commission, and the mayor and three
fear that the mall would draw traffic from of five commissioners live in Tuscawilla.
the west and north through their quiet If there were compelling evidence that
community of several thousand homes. the proposed mall would be detrimental to
They are pressuring the Winter Springs Tuscawilla, Winter Springs should contin-
City Commission not to allow the proposed ue its objections to the access road. Noth-
access road to cross a conservation ease-
ment, which the city controls, parallel to Ong, even $1 million, would be worth
Winter Springs Boulevard. destroying a community.
Now, though, the Rouse Co., which No such evidence exists,however.
wants to build the mall, and the city of For that reason, the Winter Springs City
Winter Springs have struck a compromise Commission ought to approve an agree-
that they say would protect Tuscawilla ment with the mall builder tonight and
from the mall traffic. remove the project's most formidable road-
block.
It would provide for an intersection
designed to prevent traffic The deed is not yet done, of course.Both
c leaving and
mall from turning in to Tuscawilla and city commissions, the Seminole County
also prevent traffic exiting Tuscawilla from Commission and the East Central Florida
turning in to the mall. Regional Planning Council must vote for-
mal approval, and those actions cannot be
Although the intersection would be predicted.
inside the city of Oviedo, Winter Springs Short of an impossible 100 percent guar-
police would be allowed to enforce those antee, however, the agreement would
no-turn laws, and that department's dill- assure the best of both worlds — major
gence in traffic enforcement is legendary. economic development and protection of
Additionally, among other concessions, residential communities.
the developer would pay the city of Winter It ought to fly.
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It's count 's turn y to get mailed
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commissioners consider a Atk t <• -- ( , f'ii / ,'v(,lanned mall ;w 4,; ,, // ,�/j <4_
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OF THE SENTINEL STAFF i' �' 71�`'; ..' I �-- -, 0 if�,Z FOB*,f,p,is
OVIEDO — This week it's the y► _ • .'4 ilk ,, `�,I•Seminole County Commission's " \' 1• . ■ �
turn to shop for public opinion �'� ' �'' �i .—'''.03-0//
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about a regional mall. -`t � ., � .'
Commissioners will hold their 1 ��' '. '��' e 1 ;_ ?�•
first public hearing Tuesday night il I,, ..1 -4-'-‘I " ' r'`' 'i \■ pillo d le- ,M
on the Oviedo Crossing develop- , , , , ,rite rK q
ment,which includes the mall. 1 t �' '• I ! I ,Oil 1 it � AA-� �! '
The meeting, which begins at 7 'I " . ,t ,,_ ','
p.m. at the commission chambers \ " - �+ +
in Sanford, is shaping up to be a6j � A r' � `� +. �.
battle of the busloads. Hundreds "": ,' LE3�-°'.a :
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of residents from Oviedo and Win- •a
ter Springs are a s,�� 4 _-
expected to lobby a,..,�;,, ' �
for and against The Marketplace x r', °1', a.-�► ; ��� a 'j/
at Oviedo Crossing, a proposed 1.2 ! . ,, T' ���_ –- "`- .ii• �T
million-square-foot shopping mall '' , � ,.„ ``iCz • _., ,
north of Red Bug Lake Road. �0., r 1 -a =,-
Oviedo, which plans to annex �' I`'�� '� `�""" =max
the mall site,is looking forward to THE ROUSE co
Artist's rendering of The Marketplace at Oviedo Crossing, a pro-
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mall is such a swell idea
By SHIRLEY C. Rtm6N9 that department store in Altamonte little bit of traffic will not hurt the
SPECIAL 70 TUE o'rnuc VOICE Mall about six rears ago? Has none Tuskawilla development of Chelsee
I live in Tuskaridge—that is the of the residents of Oviedo ever been Woods, maybe they would ride
development that was without water escorted to their cars by mall security through the neighborhood.How nice
last month. That was probably the at.the Fashion Square Mall because does it look with that big expressway
only lime people hear about my de- of the danger o young men attacking running through it? Do they thins
celopment. even though it will be women and stealing their handbags? mall traffic will enhance the quality
most affected if the Oviedo Crossings Has no one but me had their car of life in those neighborhoods?
mall is built I live in unincorporated scraped to the metal with a key while I say, if Oviedo wants the mall
Seminole County but have an Oviedo in shopping at Fashion Square?I am let the city put it right in the middle
mailing address.That seems to be the worried that the mall will attract those of the town.The Mayor and her coun-
only thing I have in common with bent on crime to enter and commit cil obviously have no regard for the
Oviedo citizens. crimes in my neighbor hood. quality of life of the people who will
I am outraged by all the talk about When my husband and I first be most affected by its opening. It is
the proposed Oviedo Crossings mall. purchased our home, we expected to hypocritical that Oviedo wants to re-
No wonder all of Oviedo is for its cre- remain in it for at least 15 years. If strict the development of Twin Riv-
atien— not one Oviedo residence is the value of my house increase be- ers II along the Little Econlock-
within a mile of the proposed site. cause of the mall. I won't benefit un- hatchee (as discussed in your paper
Residents of Tuskaridge will suffer less I sell. This is not in consonance of March 2. 1995)but thinks ruining
from increased traffic, more garbage with my quality of life plans. Even my development and neighboring
strewn along the roads. light pollu- selling. with the increased interest Tuskawilla is perfectly fine.
Lion. noise and crime. The area was rate for mortgages. I would have to I was at the Oviedo-Winter
not toned to allow a mall — had it sell my house fora huge sum to main- Springs meeting when Winter Springs
been. I would never have bought a taro my current quality of life. Real- .Mayor)ohn Bush questioned Oviedo
hone there. isticalt, I do not think a mall will as to whether it would be"developers
What 1"find difficult to under- increase th.p.Salue of my hornet. over people and communities. or
stand is that the proponents of the Rather,it will probably only increase people and communities over devel-
mall seen to forget the impact a mall my real estate tax assessment because opers." It is obvious which choice
will have upon the area.Malls are not someone at the county level will be Oviedo has made.
necessarily built in bad places, but convinced that my home is more valu- I say,put the mall elsewhere.
they do attract some bad people. Has able. I doubt that the buyers will fall
everyone forgotten about the vroman for it Hrs.Rubens wrote this corrupter:-
who was raped in the ladies room of To the people 'who think that a tare for The Oviedo Ibice.
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Letters to the editor
Marketplace mall is benefit Unfortunately, most residents have chosen to be
spoon-fed with the information these entities wanted
that many residents want them to know instead of becoming aware of how the
magnitude of this project will truly affect their qual-
ity of life.
IN
Mall the growth years as a Winter Springs resident, I wonder how many Oviedo residents realize that
growth I've seen has been residential Lake Jessup Avenue, Lake Charm Avenue, Division
development.When there was the possibility of corn-
and Pine streets are to be connected to State Road
mercial development in ills that had been on 434 and
the books since the beginniinninng g of the development, possibly widened.
the residents fought it and won. Now they're trying Do Oviedo residents realize that of the question-
to do the same thing with an even larger piece of able $2-3 million in ad valorem taxes at buildout(the
property not even in the city. year 2000), only about $950,000 will go to the school
The Marketplace at Oviedo Crossing should be district to use as it sees fit?This funding can be used
seen as a benefit. Yes, some say the traffic will be a
for capital improvements only,with no guarantees it
will but no matter what is done with vacant ll directly benefit either Winter Springs or Oviedo
property,there will be more traffic. schools.
I hope the mall becomes a reality for the many Do the parents of children at Lawton Elementary
people who do want it and have not necessarily made or Oviedo High know traffic will increase in front of
their opinions heard. their schools by 40 to 50 percent during afternoon
Marjorie Larson
hours as a direct result of mall traffic?
WINTER SPRINGS Become educated. Do some research. Ask your lo-
cal government some pointed questions. And then
decide for yourself if the convenience of a mall is
worth it.
Weigh all the facts, figures Carole Stockwell
before welcoming new mall WINTER SPRINGS
THE RESIDENTS of Oviedo, like those in Winter Wh y bring big-city problems
Springs,have been bought, paid for and sold up the g b y C
river for a mall that will only make one of Florida's to Oviedo Winter Springs?
wealthiest landowners even wealthier, and an out-of-
state,exceedingly rich developer even richer.
A LOT of Oviedo (and some Winter Springs) resi-
dents want the new mall for shopping convenience.
This puzzles me. It seems everyone I know who lives
7: WINTER SPRINGS in Oviedo or Winter Springs has chosen to live here
because the area is away from the crime, traffic and
Thefts/break-ins hectic pace that Orlando and its closer neighbors
share.
• Wade Street, 500 block, between
8:30 p.m.March 25 and 8:30 a.m.March If a mall is what people wanted, why didn't they
27. Someone entered a business and settle in Altamonte Springs?They wanted to be away
took a set of torches valued at$300. from the traffic,crime,etc., that Altamonte has. Now
what do we suppose we are bringing to Oviedo and
Auto thalte/burglariea Winter Springs if the mall is built? Altamonte
Springs.
• Winter Springs Boulevard, 1500 I mean no offense to Altamonte, which has the
block, between 10 p.m. March 27 and most progressive city government around. This is
5:30 a.m.March 28.Someone broke into not just an issue of preserving Winter Springs Boule-
e car parked at a country club in an at- yard. This is an issue of preserving Red Bug Lake
teMplOastaal it Road, Chapman Road, Slavia Road, Lake Jessup
Avenue, Clark Street, West Broadway, Pine Street,
Seneca Boulevard,Northern Way and more.
Battery
Jim tfiBr
■Ae6pr Trail, 900 block, 11:15 WINTER SPRINGS
a.m. March 28.A man was charged with
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