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ITEM 303 public Hearings
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December 09, 2013 ALLL
Regular Meeting City Manager Department
REQUEST:
Requesting the City Commission Review and Approve the Monday, October 28, 2013 City
Commission Workshop Minutes.
SYNOPSIS:
One of the responsibilities of the City Clerk is to provide the Mayor and City
Commission with a submittal of all Meeting Minutes, as soon after a City Commission
meeting as possible; so, that it is a reminder to the Mayor and City Commission, as to
what transpired at their most recent meeting, and also provides a record of the actions
and directives of the City Commission, for the future, and which becomes the official
record.
If the City Commission is in agreement with what the City Clerk provides in these
Minutes, then the City Commission would be asked to Approve the Minutes, as
submitted. Should the Mayor and/or City Commission feel something is not
appropriately documented in these Minutes, then a Motion would be appropriate to have
the Minutes changed to reflect what the majority of the City Commission would prefer.
CONSIDERATIONS:
This Agenda Item includes the Minutes from the Monday, October 28, 2013 City
Commission Workshop.
Even though these Minutes are being submitted by the City Clerk, (with proofing by
Office of the City Clerk Staff), no other party has required that changes be made to the
Minutes before being submitted. These Minutes are being submitted by the City Clerk
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for the Approval by the City Commission.
FISCAL IMPACT:
There is no fiscal impact related to the approval of this Agenda Item.
COMMUNICATION EFFORTS:
This Agenda Item has been electronically forwarded to the Mayor and City Commission,
City Manager, City Attorney/Staff, and is available on the City's Website, LaserFiche, and
the City's Server. Additionally, portions of this Agenda Item are typed verbatim on the
respective Meeting Agenda which has also been electronically forwarded to the individuals
noted above, and which is also available on the City's Website, LaserFiche, and the City's
Server; has been sent to applicable City Staff, Media/Press Representatives who have
requested Agendas/Agenda Item information, Homeowner's Associations/Representatives
on file with the City, and all individuals who have requested such information. This
information has also been posted outside City Hall, posted inside City Hall with additional
copies available for the General Public, and posted at five (5) different locations around the
City. Furthermore, this information is also available to any individual requestors. City Staff
is always willing to discuss this Agenda Item or any Agenda Item with any interested
individuals.
RECOMMENDATION:
The City Commission is respectfully requested to consider and offer their Approval of the
Monday, October 28, 2013 City Commission Workshop Minutes.
ATTACHMENTS:
A - Unapproved copy of the Monday, October 28, 2013 City Commission
Workshop Minutes (5 pages).
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Attachment"A"
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CITY COMMISSION
MINUTES
WORKSHOP
MONDAY, OCTOBER 28, 2013
CITY HALL—COMMISSION CHAMBERS
1126 EAST STATE ROAD 434,WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA
Mayor Charles Lacey
Deputy Mayor Cade Resnick- Seat Four
Commissioner Jean Hovey - Seat One
Commissioner Rick Brown- Seat Two
Commissioner Pam Carroll - Seat Three
Commissioner Joanne M. Krebs - Seat Five
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CALL TO ORDER
The Workshop of Monday, October 28, 2013 of the City Commission was called to Order by Mayor Charles
Lacey at 6:18 p.m. in the Commission Chambers of the Municipal Building(City Hall, 1126 East State Road 434,
Winter Springs, Florida 32708).
Roll Call: alsmet
Mayor Charles Lacey,present
Deputy Mayor Cade Resnick,present
Commissioner Jean Hovey, absent
Commissioner Rick Brown,present
Commissioner Pam Carroll,present
Commissioner Joanne M.Krebs,present via telephone
City Manager Kevin L. Smith,present
City Attorney Anthony A. Garganese, absent
Assistant City Attorney Kate Latorre,present
City Clerk Andrea Lorenzo-Luaces,present
PUBLIC INPUT
Mr. William Fernandez, 250 East Panama Road, Winter Springs, Florida: commented on his property, that they
own an Easement on their property, an Attorney Opinion, and they wanted to have a lot split so they could make
plans for retiring on another part of their property.
Mr. Martin Miller, 233 East Panama Road, Winter Springs, Florida: said he wanted to split a lot but part of the
lot would be unbuildable which would affect lot split rules.
REGULAR AGENDA
REGULAR
600. Community Development Department
REQUEST:
The Community Development Department requests the City Commission hear a presentation from Staff
regarding Lot Split and Re-platting procedures as they specifically relate to Section 9-10 (c) (1) of the Code
of Ordinances.
FISCAL IMPACT:
There is no direct fiscal impact associated with this agenda item.
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COMMUNICATION EFFORTS:
This Agenda Item Has Been Electronically Forwarded To The Mayor And City Commission, City
Manager, City Attorney/Staff, And All eAlert/eCitizen Recipients; And Is Available On The City's
Website, LaserFiche, And The City's Server. Additionally, Portions Of This Agenda Item Are Typed
Verbatim On The Respective Meeting Agenda Which Has Also Been Electronically Forwarded To The
Individuals Noted Above; And Which Is Also Available On The City's Website, LaserFiche, And The
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City's Server; Has Been Sent To City Staff, Media/Press Representatives Who Have Requested
Agendas/Agenda Item Information, Homeowner's Associations/Representatives On File With The City, ctizz
And All Individuals Who Have Requested Such Information; And Has Been Posted Outside City Hall;
Posted Inside City Hall With Additional Copies Available For The General Public; And Posted At Five
(5)Different Locations Around The City. This Agenda Item Is Also Available To Any New Individual
Requestors. City Staff Is Always Willing To Discuss This Or Any Agenda Item With Any Interested
Individuals.
RECOMMENDATION:
The Community Development Department is requesting that the City Commission hear a presentation
from Staff regarding Lot Split and Re-platting procedures as they relate to Section 9-10 (c) (1) of the Code
of Ordinances and provide any direction the Commission deems appropriate.
Mr. Bobby Howell, AICP, Planner, Community Development Department presented some information on Lot
Splits, the arithmatic mean related to the Code, zoning, original factors and requirements related to a Lot Split,
data on previous lot splits, and went through the various sections in the Ranchlands with the numbers of lot splits
that have taken place. Mr. Howell then showed some images related to the Ranchlands before lot splits and the
present day view; and also how other jurisdictions handle lot split requests.
In closing, Mr. Howell stated, "We're requesting the City Commission consider the information that we presented
tonight and give us direction in regards to section 9-10. (c) (1). We can leave the Code as is, modify it or strike it
and allow the Zoning Code to regulate lot sizes."
Discussion then ensued on how restrictive our lot split criteria was in comparison to other jurisdictions.
Mayor Lacey said to Mr. Howell, You referenced some of the other cities in the area, and that they all allow lot
splits in some fashion or form, would you say that our 9-10. (c) (1) is more restrictive than any of those other
cities' regulations are?"
Mr. Howell replied, "Yes. Doing the research of other jurisdictions, I was unable to find anywhere that has a
provision in the Code like we do." Mr. Howell noted a couple of jurisdictions he personally was familiar with
and added, "Lot splits were basically meet the Zoning criteria; and it requires the approval of the Community
Development Director."
Mr. Randy Stevenson, ASLA, AICP, Director, Community Development Department stated, "We've talked about
several things, one of those was we currently have a Zoning Code that allows a one (1) acre lot. We have an
additional requirement that was put into place as we all talked about here tonight, that is an additional protection
if you will, on the size of those lots out there such that they probably in most cases exceed the minimal lot
required by the Zoning.
One of the other things we talked about was, do we come back now and try to put in another Zoning category for
a two (2) acre or a two and a half( 2 'A) acre lot and so forth. The problem with that is whatever threshold we
choose, immediately we're going to create a lot of non-conforming lots in that Zoning category.
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So, your Staff has talked about that but we've really not given that particular thing a lot of thought. And I just
offer this information to you,just as additional information and nothing else at this point."
Deputy Mayor Resnick commented, By altering this 9-10. (c) (1), would we not be taking away the primary
concept of many of the residents who moved into the Ranchlands and starting to create an urban sprawl." Deputy
Mayor Resnick then referenced that Commissioner Brown had someone come to a previous City Commission
meeting to speak on this issue.
Mr. Howell pointed out, "There is a minimum one (1) acre lot size in the majority of the Ranchlands, it's zoned wacril
`RC-1' which requires a minimum of one acre lot size. If you had a code which basically allowed a lot split
without the one thousand foot perimeter thing, you would meet the one(1)acre minimum lot size.
The majority of the lots in our City are not one (1) acre in size; most of them are 10,000 square feet in area,
however it could be argued as well, that there were people that came to the City in the past seeking additional
protection from lot splits in the Ranchlands,and that's where the thousand foot radius was derived from. I think it
was a consensus of a previous Commission that created that; so, yes that could be a safeguard to protect - the
integrity of the Ranchlands."
Mayor Lacey summarized that after Public Input, "Staff will work on digesting those comments and coming back
with any proposed changes.
PUBLIC INPUT
Mr. William Fernandez, 250 East Panama Road, Winter Springs, Florida: showed his property and mentioned
that previously he had to set aside one(1) acre for agricultural and their intent was to split the lot,live on part of it
and have seven(7)acres to be used for a horse pasture which is an Permitted Use according to the Easement.
Continuing, Mr. Fernandez referenced a previous remark on urban sprawl and thought there is "No urban sprawl
that has not already occurred." With further comments on other jurisdictions that do not have our restrictions, Mr.
Fernandez thought lot splits would be better addressed in the City's Comprehensive Plan Housing Element and to
let Staff decide on these matters as they come up; and asked for more flexibility.
Mayor Lacey mentioned that Mr. Fernandez was more than welcome to individually call or email himself and/or
any Commissioner.
Deputy Mayor Resnick said to Mr. Howell, "Based on what was mentioned and a possibility of one acre lots or
two acre lots, what would it take to draw it so I could visually see it - so I can see what that might look like in the
future when you do bring it back to us."
Mr. Howell summarized, "Draw up the difference between a 1 and 2 acre lots - in the Ranchlands. With no
objections voiced,Mr. Howell stated,"Sure, absolutely,we can put together a graphic for you."
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ADJOURNMENT
Mayor Lacey adjourned the Workshop at 6:47 p.m.
RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED:
ANDREA LORENZO-LUACES,MMC
CITY CLERK
APPROVED:
MAYOR CHARLES LACEY
NOTE: These Minutes were approved at the ,2013 City Commission Regular Meeting.