HomeMy WebLinkAbout2012 01 25 Bicycle and Pedestrian Advisory Committee Special Meeting Minutes CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA
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BICYCLE AND PEDESTRIAN ADVISORY COMMITTEE
SPECIAL MEETING
JANUARY 25, 2012
CALL TO ORDER
The Special Meeting of Wednesday, January 25, 2012 of the Bicycle and Pedestrian
Advisory Committee was called to Order at 7:01 p.m. by Chairperson William B.
Carpenter in the Commission Chambers of the Municipal Building (City Hall, 1126 East
State Road 434, Winter Springs, Florida 32708).
Roll Call:
Chairperson William B. Carpenter, present
Vice Chairperson Larry Hartman, present
Committee Member Gary Brook, present
Committee Member Kok Wan Mah, present
Committee Member Lance Stephan, absent
Assistant to the City Clerk Carol A. Lallathin, present
A moment of silence preceded the Pledge of Allegiance.
PUBLIC INPUT
No one spoke.
400. REPORTS
Advisory Committee Member Kok Wan Mah spoke about the opportunity that he had to
attend a Workshop as recently as this past week in Sunrise, Florida. He commented that
it was a very positive experience which revolved around a Parks Master Plan project and
a component of that project was to look at their Bicycle and Pedestrian Master Plan.
Advisory Committee Member Mah explained, "For three (3) days we worked with City
Staff and developed basically on a series of maps, some ideas for what does the City
envision and multi -use trails; what are the types of roads that we want for those kind of
trails; whether it is a five foot (5') bike lane that is adjacent to a street or whether they just
want wider sidewalks."
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Continuing, Advisory Committee Member Mah noted, "It was a great exercise in helping
the City plan out the direction that they wanted to go with respect to their Bicycle and
Pedestrian Master Plans and we had a number of folks from their Leisure Services
Department who were talking about various grants that they had applied for and it sounds
like they are going to get it."
Speaking to Advisory Committee Member Mah, Advisory Committee Member Gary
Brook asked, "Is there any lesson that you brought out of that experience that you could
bring and share with us ?"
Advisory Committee Member Mah responded, "There were a number of instances where
I was making comparisons between the type of vision that Sunrise had and what we are
trying to do here. I think here there is more of a blank slate for the City to be able to plan
out and make sure that there is a realization for what Winter Springs wants to do with its
Bicycle and Trail Plan."
REGULAR AGENDA
REGULAR
600. Public Works Department
Requesting The Bicycle And Pedestrian Advisory Committee's Review And Adopt
A Prioritization List For Completing The Existing Sidewalk Gaps Along City
Collector Roads.
Mr. Brian Fields, P.E., City Engineer, Public Works Department introduced this Agenda
Item for discussion and stated, "This is a request from a prior meeting to look at the
sidewalk gaps along our City collector roads." Mr. Fields added, "We wanted to look
more and focus more on the collector roads where we have those gaps. We identified
those in this Agenda Item and came up with a draft priority list. This is our Staff point of
view on page 2 of your Agenda Item."
Next, Mr. Fields commented, "Before I get into that however, I did want to briefly
mention an update to this map since February of 2011 to now. Some of the gaps have
actually been filled in. So, that is good news."
Mr. Fields remarked, "The first one is on North Tuskawilla Road; the Winter Springs
Village development — and they have completed a sidewalk segment along their frontage
as well as along their frontage that connects with the Cross Seminole Trail."
Continuing, Mr. Fields noted, "The second item is — the new Charter School at Central
Winds Park and as part of that development they were required to install six foot (6')
wide sidewalks along their entire — I call it their interior frontage. So, that is complete,
those are in place."
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Then, Mr. Fields added, "The third item is Jesups Landing — is a 171 unit townhome
subdivision off of Orange Avenue; — so, that sidewalk should be up within this calendar
year.
The fourth item is on Shepard Road; we have a new project, just started construction
called `The Shepard Road Streetscape' which includes new sidewalks on both sides
between (US Highway) 17 -92 and Wildwood (Drive) which is right near Highlands
Elementary School. So, again a very good location, not only with the school but also (US
Highway) 17 -92 has mass transit; and we have a lot of residential development in the
Highlands (Subdivision) and that is a big enhancement to that area when that is complete.
Finally, just an update on (State Road) 434 going all the way on the east side of town
heading into Oviedo; that project is nearly complete by D.O.T. (Department Of
Transportation); does not include new sidewalks except for a few locations where there
was right -of -way, however it does include paved shoulders along the entire route through
Winter Springs. Mr. Fields added, "I believe construction, if not this year, next calendar
year."
Mr. Fields stated, "Back to the Agenda Item is the gaps and the priority list. We said
number one (1) on the list is Doran Drive which is right here next to City Hall; got
everything around it, schools, parks, Town Center; that is part of a project that has been
funded already by MetroPlan (Orlando), it could be done by that; it may be done as part
of the Grandville Development which is next door here to City Hall. So, one way or
another that Project is going to be done. Then there is a group of two (2) through seven
(7); two (2) and three (3), Edgemon Avenue is to be included in the North Village Walk
Project; is also selected for funding. Number three (3) is North Tuskawilla Road, part of
that has been done the other half of that would be in the Town Center Sidewalk Project.
Same thing with North Moss Road, number four (4) could be included in the North
Village Walk (Project). Five (5), six (6) and seven (7), those we have sidewalks on
already; those are really interchangeable as far as priorities go; did not see one standing
out much over the other."
Further discussion ensued regarding the priority list on the sidewalk gaps and the
potential plans of the sidewalks, the width of the sidewalks and the gaps that they look to
fill in as funding becomes available.
Chairperson Carpenter stated, "It just seems to me that if we are content with leaving a
situation where there are sidewalks on one side that it ought to be five or six feet (5' or 6')
at least. My biggest concern is seventeen (17) [Northern Way — Howell Creek Drive to
Shetland Avenue] based on just the traffic there — pedestrian."
Chairperson Carpenter added, "A lot of people end up walking the streets. I think that we
need to consider the idea that if we have a sub - standard sidewalk and the only sidewalk
on that collector road then that ought to have a higher priority."
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Mr. Fields commented, "Okay. I think an example of that would be Shetland (Avenue) —
there was a sub - standard narrow sidewalk right next to the road; we put in a new one on
the other side five feet (5') wide. Seventeen (17), low priority for the side that does not
have a sidewalk because that came to the (City) Commission, they voted it down;
however they did target that replacement of that existing sidewalk."
Continuing, Mr. Fields stated, "That Project is in our CIP (Capital Improvement Plan)
actually; the replacement of the Northern Way sidewalk along that segment — that is
deficient."
With further comments, Mr. Fields remarked, "It is in the Capital Improvement Plan, the
five (5) year Plan, it was targeted for funding with One Cent Sales Tax funds. I do not
remember which year that was in, but it is a Project that we would do when it became
time per the schedule in the CIP (Capital Improvement Plan) because it does have a
funding source."
Discussion.
Next, Mr. Fields reported, "On Winter Springs Boulevard, we still have some gaps.
Sheoah Boulevard in the Highlands, I put below that group, because of the sidewalk on
one side has six foot (6') shoulders — we just did some repaving out there, which is very
generous; it has options of a multi -modal corridor that the others do not. Moving down
Orange Avenue, I see it being filled in as development occurs." Discussion.
Then, Mr. Fields referenced eleven (11) through sixteen (16) and commented, "The
Ranchlands are unique; we have a design in our City Code that does not have a paved
sidewalk. We just paved about five (5) miles of existing dirt roads in the Ranchlands. A
lot of discussion with the residents about what they wanted to see."
Mr. Fields added, "That is where we are at in the Ranchlands; that is per the
Commission's directions and input from the residents." Discussion.
Continuing, Mr. Fields summarized, "Breaking up Northern Way; Howell Creek (Drive)
to Shetland (Avenue) replace existing and move that up the list to the extent possible.
And in the Ranchlands, put Hayes (Road) at the top of the Ranchlands."
Mr. Fields noted, "Our recommendation is that you review and adopt the prioritization
list, so I would recommend that you make a Motion."
"I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ADOPT THE LISTED MODIFIED
PROGRAM." MOTION BY ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEMBER BROOK.
SECONDED BY VICE CHAIRPERSON HARTMAN. DISCUSSION.
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VOTE:
COMMITTEE MEMBER MAH: AYE
CHAIRPERSON CARPENTER: AYE
COMMITTEE MEMBER BROOK: AYE
VICE CHAIRPERSON HARTMAN: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
REGULAR
601. Community Development Department — Planning Division
Providing The Bicycle And Pedestrian Advisory Committee (BAPAC) Updated
Information Regarding The Wayfinding Signage Within The City Of Winter
Springs.
Mr. Randy Woodruff, AICP, Senior Planner, Community Development Department
introduced this Agenda Item and remarked, "This next item, `601' is an update on
potential Wayfinding Signage within the City. This evening what we would like to do is
get your comments and suggestions and any questions that you may have in regards to
three (3) areas that pertain to Wayfinding (Signage).
First, we would like to present to you a draft Wayfinding destination list; secondly go
over the Wayfinding Design and location direction as Staff has taken up to this point; and
lastly to take a look at an example of a Wayfinding Design Manual. The Staff has felt
that this is a good direction that we would like to go down. So, I would just like to get
your feedback in regards to that document.
The first item again being the `Draft Wayfinding Destination List'. The last BAPAC
(Bicycle And Pedestrian Advisory Committee) meeting in September, there were a
couple of locations that were presented by the board (Committee) Members in regards to
key destination sites within the City. Staff compiled those two (2) lists of places and we
came up with a `draft' tonight for your review and suggestions. And with that said, the
City of Winter Springs Wayfinding Destination list includes the following: City Hall,
Post Office; Central Winds Park; Trotwood Park; Winter Springs Town Center; Keeth
Elementary (School); Winter Springs Elementary (School); Layer Elementary (School);
Indian Trails Middle (School); Winter Springs High (School); Dog Park; Cross Seminole
Trailhead; Bear Creek Nature Trail; Fruitwood Park; Moss Park; Ranchlands Park; Sam
Smith Park; Sunshine Park; Torcaso Park; Winding Hollow; and Soldiers Creek Park in
the County." Chairperson Carpenter stated, "The new Charter School."
Then, Chairperson Carpenter asked, "Would it be possible to put these on a map and let
us take a look at ?"
Mr. Woodruff noted, "That is one of the objections that we will talk about later when we
go into the `Design Manual'; there will be a lot of maps and again there will be an overall
map with all the key destinations of the City identified. But yes, we can go ahead and put
that together for you."
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Vice Chairperson Hartman stated, "Did you mention anything about the Veterans
Memorial on there ?" Mr. Fields commented, "The Veterans Memorial and the new
Amphitheatre is not there yet and would be tied in as a destination right along the Trail."
Continuing Mr. Woodruff stated, "I would like to provide the Committee an update in
regards to Staff proceedings up to this point as to what we have been working on with
regards to Wayfinding'. We started meeting together on November 21 (2011) and
since that point we have met weekly discussing ideas of how we can create Wayfinding
within the City.
Up to this point — been creating brand type of signage per district within the City. This is
not an inclusive list but we are thinking of the Town Center, the GreeneWay Interchange
District, the Village Walk; basically a certain type of branding and signage that would
give the individual a sense of arrival. Again whether it is the architectural make -up of the
sign itself, the color of the banners; it gives you a sense of place — you know where you
are. Of course, there will be additional directions to key City destinations. We looked at
providing some means of Wayfinding opportunities in our existing Bus shelters. This
would include a — map. An idea that we had entertained is naming the Bus stops."
Discussion.
REGULAR
602. Community Development Department — Planning Division
Providing The Bicycle And Pedestrian Advisory Committee (BAPAC) Information
Regarding The Lynx PickUpLine Service.
Mr. Bobby Howell, AICP, Planner, Community Development Department, presented this
Agenda Item regarding the Lynx PickUpLine Service and stated, "Basically, it is a `call
first service' you can call up to (two) 2 hours in advance to schedule an appointment for a
Lynx designated bus to come pick you up at a location in a `service area'." Mr. Howell
added, "The only location in the County where the service is operated is in the City of
Oviedo."
Then, Mr. Howell, explained about the cost to operate the service and commented, "The
City currently does not have the funds to allocate to that. One way we can look at going
about that is to put it in our five (5) year CIP (Capital Improvement Plan) if you would
like to do something like that, however we do not really have any funding sources
available. So, it could potentially be funded by `Mobility grants' or something of this
similar source."
Chairperson Carpenter commented further about this service and the potential of SunRail
coming in early 2014, and the advantages and disadvantages of the service.
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Chairperson Carpenter remarked, "The idea is to get this on the Agenda — Winter Springs
Agenda so that we can start looking for funding and when it does become available then
we can perhaps get into this. What I would like to see is an endorsement by BAPAC
(Bicycle And Pedestrian Advisory Committee) so we can move it ahead and put it on the
five (5) year plan and then look for funding."
Advisory Committee Member Brook noted, "I would be very much in favor of that."
Mr. Fields remarked, "If I understand the direction, you would like, it is the will of the
Committee, that you would like for Staff to consider including the PickUpLine in our
next update of the five (5) year CIP (Capital Improvement Plan). The five (5) year CIP
(Capital Improvement Plan) is developed by Staff ultimately approved and recommended
by the City Manager."
Mr. Fields added, "Since there is no dedicated funding source it would have to be listed
as a potential `Mobility Grant' and it might sit in that category until there is more
demand."
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"I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE GO FORWARD WITH WHAT YOU JUST
SUGGESTED." MOTION BY VICE CHAIRPERSON HARTMAN. SECONDED
BY ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEMBER BROOK. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMITTEE MEMBER BROOK: AYE
CHAIRPERSON CARPENTER: AYE
VICE CHAIRPERSON HARTMAN: AYE
COMMITTEE MEMBER MAH: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
PUBLIC INPUT
No one spoke.
Next, Chairperson Carpenter stated, "We need to talk about making a presentation before
the (City) Commission on what we have done and what we are looking at and what we
have accomplished. Carol (Assistant to the City Clerk Lallathin) if you could fill us in on
what they are looking for and what we need to do on that."
Assistant to the City Clerk Lallathin referred to an email that was sent to each Committee
Member from City Clerk Andrea Lorenzo - Luaces regarding attending a City Commission
meeting on February 13, 2012 to address the City Commission on their Committee's role.
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Then, Assistant to the City Clerk Lallathin commented, "We would like as many of you
if not all of you to be present and go before the (City) Commission."
Mr. Randy Stevenson, ASLA, AICP, Director, Community Development Department
remarked, "If you were inclined to do a PowerPoint, we are requesting that it be no
longer than six (6) or seven (7) slides."
Further, Mr. Stevenson noted, "The City Commission will want to be sure that you have
what you need as a board or the things you need that you are not getting. The (City)
Commission is interested to see how things are going for the board, what your thoughts
are relative to what you have been tasked with; again do you have the tools that you need
to make that happen. If not, what are the tools that you might need to make that happen.
It is — an informal discussion."
Chairperson Carpenter stated, "I look at this as an opportunity to get before the
Commission and tell them `these are the things that we have been working on and these
are the things we want you to consider and help us find funding'. I will be willing to put
together a PowerPoint presentation; maybe Staff could help put something together."
Mr. Fields noted, "We can put together a bullet point list of accomplishments or things
that we adopted and use that as a starting point. I think one of the real highlights would
be how we had the Pedestrian Master Plan rolled into two (2) project applications which
were selected for funding."
Further discussion.
Chairperson Carpenter presented an idea to the Committee Members stating, "The idea of
`Park and Ride'; we have a great resource in the Town Center and in the Parks adjacent
to it and so on. And we have a transit line that is going to be used more and more and
eventually in 2014 the SunRail' is going to be there. I would like to throw out the idea
that we think about where we might locate a `Park and Ride' even on a part-time basis — a
shared arrangement and then incorporate that as part of our overall pedestrian plan —
multi-modal plan. We can put this on the Agenda for the next meeting."
Mr. Fields commented, "We can make that an Agenda for next time; put our ideas
together. It has been a topic of discussion as D.O.T (Department of Transportation) has
looked also in this area. We will put some information together based on what we know;
just an opened ended Agenda Item."
ADJOURNMENT
Chairperson Carpenter adjourned the Special Meeting at 8:00 p.m.
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RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED:
Cave_
CAROL A. LALLAT IN
ASSISTANT TO THE CITY CLERK
APPROVED:
WILLIAM B. CARPENTER, CHAIRPERSON
BICYCLE AND PEDESTRIAN ADVISORY COMMITTEE
NOTE: These Minutes were approved at the March 21, 2012 Bicycle and Pedestrian Advisory Committee Regular Meeting.