HomeMy WebLinkAbout2011 11 01 Parks and Recreation Advisory Committee Regular Meeting MinutesCITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA
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CALL TO ORDER
The Regular Meeting of Tuesday, November 1, 2011 of the Parks and Recreation Advisory
Committee was called to Order by Chairman Arnie Nussbaum at 7:00 p.m., in the Commission
Chambers of the Municipal Building (City Hall, 1126 East State Road 434, Winter Springs,
Florida 32708.
Roll Call:
Chairman Arnie Nussbaum, present
Vice Chairman Joseph Bonura, absent
Committee Member Larry Brickel, present
Committee Member Arsenio Calle, present
Committee Member Pamela Carroll, present
Committee Member Yvonne Froscher, present
Committee Member Arthur Gallo, absent
Committee Member Geoffrey Kendrick, absent
Committee Member Clare Mumey, present
A moment of silence was held followed by the Pledge of Allegiance.
Chairman Nussbaum asked for clarification as to who may make Motions. City Clerk Andrea
Lorenzo - Luaces reviewed with the Board that the Chairperson, Vice Chairperson, and /or any
Board Member can all make Motions.
Continuing, Chairman Nussbaum added, "If anybody on the Board has a question, any time, they
can just push the button - and we want to have as much input obviously as possible."
INFORMATIONAL AGENDA
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CONSENT AGENDA
CONSENT
200. Office Of The City Clerk
Requesting Approval Of The August 2, 2011 Parks And Recreation Advisory Committee
Regular Meeting Minutes.
Chairman Nussbaum remarked, "Do we have a Motion to Approve those Minutes ?"
Discussion followed on the August 2, 2011 Parks and Recreation Advisory Committee Regular
Meeting Minutes.
Committee Member Pamela Carroll mentioned she had not received the Minutes from the City
due to an e -mail issue. Further comments.
Mr. Chris Caldwell, Director, Parks and Recreation Department, asked for a change to the
Minutes and referred to page 6 regarding the "Pawfection" event that had been scheduled for
November 19, 2011. Mr. Caldwell stated, "We have moved that date to February 11, 2012.
There were other dog events that conflicted with that, so we moved that date."
City Clerk Lorenzo - Luaces remarked, "If I could ask the Committee to make a Motion that if the
rest of the Minutes are okay with you, what we will do is just take out the date because that is
what was said - so, that would be correct, but we can take the date out and just put `Upcoming
date', if that's okay with you." Mr. Caldwell also said, "Sure." City Clerk Lorenzo - Luaces
added, "So, it would be a Motion to Approve with that change."
Further brief discussion.
Chairman Nussbaum commented, "Based on the information, would somebody like to make a
Motion or like to Amend it now ?"
"AYE." MOTION BY COMMITTEE MEMBER CALLE. SECONDED BY
COMMITTEE MEMBER FROSCHER. DISCUSSION.
MOTION CARRIED.
AWARDS AND PRESENTATIONS
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400. REPORTS
There were no Reports given.
PUBLIC INPUT
No one addressed the Committee.
PUBLIC HEARINGS AGENDA
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600. Parks And Recreation Department
Winter Springs Senior Center Survey -(Part 11) A Follow Up Requested By Our
Commission To Insure Excellence In Customer Service. We Will Also Try To Better
Understand The Need For Outdoor Fitness Needs/Equipment. Survey Will Be
Administered In November.
Mr. Caldwell addressed the Committee and introduced two (2) members of his staff who were in
attendance at this meeting, Mr. Michael Barclay, Recreation Superintendent, Parks and
Recreation Department; and Mr. Brian Dunigan, Program Coordinator, Special Events, Parks
and Recreation Department.
Brief discussion followed on Agenda Items being sent to the Committee Members.
Mr. Caldwell gave a brief overview of this Agenda Item and mentioned he was providing a
follow -up Survey as requested at a previous meeting. Mr. Caldwell shared a success story which
was highlighted in a document entitled, "THERAPY POOL SUCCESS STORIES" and which
was also noted as being on the City's Website.
Mr. Barclay then presented some slides showing various equipment and their functions that
could be used for outdoor fitness use.
With discussion, Committee Member Arsenio Calle noted the costs for such equipment and
hoped that usage would match any expenditures. Mr. Caldwell remarked, "We are going to do
our due diligence. You're right, we are going to do the best we can to determine that."
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Committee Member Carroll thought that illustrations /photographs of the outdoor fitness
equipment should be shown along with the Survey, as she thought this would be helpful. Mr.
Caldwell added, "We could easily provide that." With further comments on the merits of
illustrations /photographs of proposed equipment, Mr. Caldwell stated, "We will do that."
Committee Member Yvonne Froscher mentioned the Minutes from the last Parks and Recreation
Advisory Committee Meeting and in terms of question number 6. on "Customer Service Survey
#2 ", an attachment to this Agenda Item, Committee Member Froscher suggested that boxes with
different Seasons could be included on the proposed Survey, and could be marked accordingly
by those who take the Survey. Mr. Caldwell agreed and commented on including more details
once viable options have been determined.
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601. Parks And Recreation Department
Discussion And Evaluation Of Community Events For 2011. Will Show Revenues And
Expenses Along With Community Partnerships Which Enabled Us To Have A Successful
Year In 2012.
Mr. Caldwell referenced additional information related to this Agenda Item which the
Committee had been now provided with. Mr. Dunigan mentioned that the document they were
looking at, had also been provided to the Mayor, City Commission, City Manager, and Staff
Committee Member Carroll inquired about overtime costs. Discussion included that overtime
costs were related to employees from the Police Department, the Public Works Department, and
the Parks and Recreation Department; and that usually, the majority of overtime costs were
related to public safety. Further comments followed on "In- kind" expenses and costs affiliated
with advertising and promoting events.
Mr. Caldwell remarked that "Brian (Dungan) has just done an excellent job for our Department.
This is his first full year; in fact, this is his first time planning the upcoming Christmas events.
He did not plan them last year. So, he has come and done an excellent job, very detailed
oriented. He saved us a couple thousand dollars on every event that we have done! He's
analyzed the expenses and has gone out and done a great job getting partnerships. Mike
(Barclay) has given some good leadership." Mr. Caldwell added, "He has done a real good job -
thank you Brian (Dungan)."
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602. Parks and Recreation Department
Discussion. Review of the Fiscal Year [20]'12 Calendar of Events. We Are Proposing A
New "Spring Event" for 2012. It Will Have The Same Atmosphere As Our Hometown
Harvest Family Event With A Different Theme of Springtime..." Our Family Festival "!
Mr. Caldwell and Mr. Dunigan introduced this Agenda Item.
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Continuing, a proposed 2012 Calendar of Events was discussed and it was mentioned that this
proposed schedule would then go before the City Commission before the end of this calendar
year. Mr. Dunigan added that a possible Spring event might be added, and if so, then such an
event would probably be held on March 10 2012 beginning at 5:00 p.m.
Discussion.
Committee Member Carroll inquired if there might be any possible conflicts with any Mardi
Gras events that might already be planned for the Spring.
Staff then asked the Committee Members for any recommendations they might have for a Spring
event, to which Committee Member Calle suggested a possible egg hunt. Further discussion.
Regarding other ideas, Committee Member Froscher suggested a planting theme, perhaps with a
Master Gardener; and Committee Member Carroll suggested a program related to the use of rain
barrels and /or a Horticulturist could meet with local children. Chairman Nussbaum thought that
area school programs could also be incorporated into such an event. Discussion.
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603. Parks and Recreation Department
Revenues For Fiscal Year 2011 And Proiected Revenues For Fiscal Year 2012.
Related to this Agenda Item, Mr. Barclay reviewed Revenues related to the Parks and Recreation
Department.
Discussion.
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604. Parks And Recreation Department
Refund Policy. There Has Never Been An Official Refund Policy For The Parks And
Recreation Department When Refunds Have Been Requested For Use Of Facilities, Fields,
And Programs. This Will Allow For Consistent Operations And Accountability.
Mr. Caldwell introduced their Department's new formal "Refund Policy ".
Tape 1 /Side B
With further comments, it was explained that this new Policy has been in effect since October
20, 2011 and has been well received.
Chairman Nussbaum noted, "When I saw this, I thought it was very clear and very special that
you even had a disclaimer at the end; that you had the ability to make special circumstances if a
unique situation arose - and that is as best as customer service can be."
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605. Parks And Recreation Department
Fee's Charges For Park And Recreation (Attachment). We Are Currently Evaluating Our
Fee Structure For Facilities And Programs, While Considering How To Apply The Winter
Springs Resident And Non - Resident Fees Charged. We Will Evaluate Like Facilities And
Programs In Seminole County To Assess The Other Municipal Agencies And Their Pricing
Structure. We Are Developing Cost Center And How Much It Costs To Operate Our
Department. We Are Seeking Additional Sources Of Revenues, Grants And Partnership
Funding.
This Agenda Item was presented by Mr. Caldwell.
Discussion followed on industry standards, and Splash Pad costs for Winter Springs residents
versus non - resident rates. On this last point, Mr. Caldwell explained, "We are under the
guidelines of the FRDAP (Florida Recreation Development Assistance Program) that was a
Grant that was funded to build that facility. We have one more year under their guidelines which
says that we can't delineate between a Winter Springs resident and a Seminole County resident.
We're actually planning though — in January of 2013, when we're released of those restrictions,
that we will have a Winter Springs resident rate and a non - resident rate at the Splash Pads."
Further comments followed on pavilion rentals, Weddings, renovating the Civic Center, and
athletic camps.
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606. Parks And Recreation Department
Presentation Of Life Trail Outdoor Fitness Equipment. Discussion And Suggestions For
Consideration Of Outdoor Fitness Eauimnent.
Mr. Barclay presented a PowerPoint presentation highlighting some outdoor fitness equipment
known as the "Life Trail Advance Wellness System ".
Discussion followed on costs of such equipment; warranties; climate condition in Florida such as
rain and extreme heat which could limit when such equipment could be used; and on a related
note, the investment value for limited use of such equipment.
Committee Member Carroll asked if the Parks and Recreation Department had researched other
communities using this equipment and how many residents actually use similar equipment. Mr.
Caldwell suggested, "We could go on a field trip if you would like to."
Mr. Caldwell commented on current use of similar equipment when something new is used, then
usage drops to "minimal ". Mr. Caldwell then said, "I don't have the numbers. I will find those
numbers out though."
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Chairman Nussbaum inquired about similar equipment and asked if they were installed in
communities with similar climate cycles. Mr. Caldwell mentioned checking out other area parks
and noted, "They said they would gladly provide us a reference sheet of where they're installed
and give us some `data', as they call it, on `usage'."
Discussion followed on other types of fitness trail equipment being used; and perhaps we could
contact Seminole County to see about the equipment they have used in the past and how their
equipment has fared; and if such equipment is purchased by the City of Winter Springs, then
perhaps we could consider having it placed at Central Winds Park so it is available to all Winter
Springs residents.
"I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THEN THAT YOU RESEARCH, PERHAPS
WITH THE COUNTY, THE RED BUG (LAKE) FACILITY; I THINK IT IS WINTER
PARK, BUT I AM NOT SURE, THAT DOES THE `MINNEHAHA', AND FIND OUT —
WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THE YEAR IS IT USED; WERE THERE PARTICULAR
TIMES, ETC.?
BUT THEN SEE IF YOU CAN LOCATE ANY OTHERS THAT MAY BE ON THE
REFERENCE LIST; AND TALK AS YOU SAID, WITH THEIR PARKS AND
RECREATION PEOPLE - HAS IT BEEN SUCCESSFUL? WHAT COSTS HAVE BEEN
HIDDEN FROM US THAT PERHAPS YOU DIDN'T KNOW OF? WHAT PART OF
THE YEAR DON'T THEY USE IT? WAS IT WORTH IT?" MOTION BY
COMMITTEE MEMBER CARROLL. SECONDED BY COMMITTEE MEMBER
FROSCHER. DISCUSSION.
COMMITTEE MEMBER CALLE SUGGESTED THAT MORE MODEST
SELECTIONS BE USED AT TWO (2) OR THREE (3) MORE LOCATIONS, TO
DETERMINE WHAT THE INTEREST THERE IS.
MR. CALDWELL REMARKED, "WE WILL BRING YOU BACK ALL THE OPTIONS
AND I THINK THAT IT'S UNANIMOUS THAT WHAT WE'VE HEARD - THIS
BOARD SUGGESTS IS THAT IT'S USEFUL TO ALL AGE GROUPS, AND AT ALL
RESIDENTS, AND AS MANY LOCATIONS AS POSSIBLE. SO, I THINK WE ARE
GOING TO CONSIDER THAT AS PART OF OUR INFORMATION — BRINGING
THAT BACK TO YOU."
COMMITTEE MEMBER FROSCHER SUGGESTED CONSIDERING WHETHER THE
FEASIBILITY OF HAVING FANS MIGHT ALSO BE CONSIDERED.
FURTHER COMMENTS FOLLOWED ON MAKING SURE THE EQUIPMENT WAS
SECURED; AND THE POSSIBILITY OF WHETHER THERE WAS AN AVAILABLE
AREA ADJACENT TO THE CHILDREN'S PLAY STRUCTURE AT CENTRAL WINDS
PARK.
MOTION CARRIED WITH NO OBJECTIONS.
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In other City business, Mr. Caldwell commented on issues with vandalism in several City Parks
and noted, "That will be on our next Agenda — just to give you an update of what is going on."
Discussion ensued on video surveillance.
Further comments followed next on the safety of the parks and recreation equipment in various
City parks, to which Mr. Caldwell said, "What we're going to do is make a plan. We're going to
go through this process with our City Safety Committee, make a determination and evaluation
currently of what the condition of our parks are at. We will have a complete park inventory.
That's what we will be bring back to this Board and we will let you also look at that complete
park inventory, look at the current condition of our parks, and make future recommendations on
how we can move forward."
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Committee Member Froscher commented on spray paint on buildings and broken lights that she
was aware of and asked if this been taken care of Mr. Caldwell commented on what he also
knew about this situation.
Next, Committee Member Carroll commented on some Oviedo residents who had commented
positively to her on some of the features at Sam Smith Park.
On a related note, Committee Member Carroll noted that at Trotwood Park and Sam Smith Park,
"On the swings, the piece that is supposed to come down, to get the little fingers not getting
caught, seems to be a repetitive problem; and I was wondering if you had come up with
exploring a new solution to putting a covering on the chain."
Mr. Caldwell explained, "We've actually asked because it's a constant replacement."
Continuing, Mr. Caldwell added, "We are looking into that and we are going to upgrade
everything to have consistent equipment."
Furthermore, Mr. Caldwell said, "We're going to evaluate that and we'll bring something to this
Board that will tell you the conditions of our parks."
PUBLIC INPUT
No one addressed the Committee.
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ADJOURNMENT
Chairman Nussbaum adjourned the Regular Meeting at 8:40 p.m.
RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED:
DONNA L. WADE,
ASSISTANT TO THE CITY CLERK AND
AND T�ORENZO- LUACES, MMC
Ci' '`i CLERK
NOTE: These Minutes were Approved at the February 7, 2012 Parks and Recreation Advisory Committee Regular Meeting.