HomeMy WebLinkAbout2011 12 12 Consent 200 Requesting Approval of the City Commission Regular Meeting Minutes of November 28, 2011COMMISSION AGENDA
ITEM 200
December 12, 2011
Regular Meeting
Informational
Consent X
Public Hearings
Regular
City Manager Department
REQUEST:
Requesting the City Commission Approve the Monday, November 28, 2011 City Commission
Regular Meeting Minutes.
SYNOPSIS:
One of the responsibilities of the City Clerk is to provide the Mayor and City Commission
with a submittal of all Meeting Minutes, as soon after a City Commission meeting as
possible; so, that it is a reminder to the Mayor and City Commission, as to what transpired
at their most recent meeting, and also provides a record of the actions and directives of the
City Commission, for the future, and which becomes the official record.
If the City Commission is in agreement with what the City Clerk provides in these Minutes, then
the City Commission would be asked to Approve the Minutes, as submitted. Should the Mayor
and /or City Commission feel something is not appropriately documented in these Minutes, then a
Motion would be appropriate to have the Minutes changed to reflect what the majority of the City
Commission would prefer.
CONSIDERATIONS:
This Agenda Item includes the Minutes from the Monday, November 28, 2011 City
Commission Regular Meeting.
Even though these Minutes are being submitted by the City Clerk, (with proofing by the
Deputy City Clerk), and signed for by the City Clerk, no other party has required that
changes be made to the Minutes before being submitted.
Consent 200 PAGE 1 OF 2 - December 12, 2011
FISCAL IMPACT:
There is no specific Fiscal Impact to this Agenda Item.
COMMUNICATION EFFORTS:
This Agenda Item has been electronically forwarded to the Mayor and City Commission,
City Manager, City Attorney /Staff, and is available on the City's Website, LaserFiche, and
the City's Server. Additionally, portions of this Agenda Item are typed verbatim on the
respective Meeting Agenda which has also been electronically forwarded to the individuals
noted above, and which is also available on the City's Website, LaserFiche, and the City's
Server; has been sent to applicable City Staff, eAlert /eCitizen Recipients, Media/Press
Representatives who have requested Agendas /Agenda Item information, Homeowner's
Associations /Representatives on file with the City, and all individuals who have requested
such information. This information has also been posted outside City Hall, posted inside
City Hall with additional copies available for the General Public, and posted at five (5)
different locations around the City. Furthermore, this information is also available to any
individual requestors. City Staff is always willing to discuss this Agenda Item or any
Agenda Item with any interested individuals.
RECOMMENDATION:
The City Commission is respectfully requested to Approve the Monday, November 28, 2011 City
Commission Regular Meeting Minutes.
ATTACHMENTS:
A - November 28, 2011 City Commission Regular Meeting Minutes
Consent 200 PAGE 2 OF 2 - December 12, 2011
CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA
CITY COMMISSION
MINUTES
REGULAR MEETING
MONDAY, NOVEMBER 28, 2011 - 5:15 P.M.
CITY HALL — COMMISSION CHAMBERS
1126 EAST STATE ROAD 434, WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA
Mayor Charles Lacey
Deputy Mayor Jean Hovey - Seat One
Commissioner Rick Brown - Seat Two
Commissioner Gary Bonner - Seat Three
Commissioner Cade Resnick - Seat Four
Commissioner Joanne M. Krebs - Seat Five
CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - NOVEMBER 28, 2011 PAGE 2 OF 19
CALL TO ORDER
The Regular Meeting of Monday, November 28, 2011 of the City Commission was called to Order by Mayor
Charles Lacey at 5:15 p.m. in the Commission Chambers of the Municipal Building (City Hall, 1126 East State
Road 434, Winter Springs, Florida 32708).
Roll Call:
Mayor Charles Lacey, present
Deputy Mayor Jean Hovey present
Commissioner Rick Brown, present
Commissioner Gary Bonner, present
Commissioner Cade Resnick, present
Commissioner Joanne M. Krebs, absent
City Manager Kevin L. Smith, present
City Attorney Anthony A. Garganese, present
A moment of silence was held, followed by the Pledge of Allegiance.
Related to Agenda Changes, Mayor Lacey remarked that as discussed at the November 14, 2011 City
Commission Regular Meeting, we were planning to have a presentation from the Seminole County School Board
here at City Hall. Mayor Lacey referenced a Memorandum from the City Manager that Commissioner Cade
Resnick and Deputy Mayor Jean Hovey had spoken to Seminole County Public Schools School Board Member
Dede Schaffner about this and that as a couple of Commissioners originally were not going to be at tonight's
Regular City Commission Meeting, it was suggested that this presentation be moved to the Monday December 12,
2011 City Commission Regular Meeting. Mayor Lacey added, "Subject to a Veto by the Commission, I told her
that would be acceptable." No objections were noted. Mayor Lacey said he would contact them and he would
discuss who should represent them at our City Commission Meeting.
INFORMATIONAL AGENDA
INFORMATIONAL
100. Community Development Department
REQUEST:
Community Development Department is advising the City Commission of the status of various current
planning projects.
FISCAL IMPACT:
There is no fiscal impact associated with this agenda item.
COMMUNICATION EFFORTS:
This Agenda Item has been electronically forwarded to the Mayor and City Commission, City Manager,
City Attorney /Staff, and is available on the City s Website, LaserFiche, and the City's Server. Additionally,
portions of this Agenda Item are typed verbatim on the respective Meeting Agenda which has also been
electronically forwarded to the individuals noted above, and which is also available on the City s Website,
LaserFiche, and the City's Server; has been sent to applicable City Staff, eAlert /eCitizen Recipients,
Media/Press Representatives who have requested Agendas /Agenda Item information, Homeowner's
Associations /Representatives on file with the City, and all individuals who have requested such
information. This information has also been posted outside City Hall, posted inside City Hall with
additional copies available for the General Public, and posted at five (5) different locations around the City.
Furthermore, this information is also available to any individual requestors. City Staff is always willing to
discuss this Agenda Item or any Agenda Item with any interested individuals.
CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - NOVEMBER 28, 2011 PAGE 3 OF 19
RECOMMENDATION:
Staff requests the City Commission receive and review the information provided in this Agenda Item.
This Agenda Item was not discussed.
"MOTION TO APPROVE (INFORMATIONAL AGENDA)." MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR HOVEY.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BROWN. DISCUSSION.
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH NO OBJECTIONS.
CONSENT AGENDA
CONSENT
200. Parks and Recreation Department
REQUEST:
The Parks and Recreation Department is requesting the City Commission approve and authorize the City
Manager to execute the three (3) - year Agreement between the City of Winter Springs and the Scottish
American Society of Central Florida, Inc. for the 35th , 36th and 37th Annual Central Florida Scottish
Festival and Highland Games.
FISCAL IMPACT:
Scottish Highland Games on Saturday /Sunday (January 14th & 15th) Parks: No costs Public Works: No
Costs Fire Department (Fire Inspection): Paid by Event Applicant Police: Paid by the Event Applicant
Event Permit: Paid by the Event Applicant Total Cost of the Scottish Highland Games to City: $0
COMMUNICATION EFFORTS:
This Agenda Item has been electronically forwarded to the Mayor and City Commission, City Manager,
City Attorney /Staff, and is available on the City's Website, LaserFiche, and the City's Server. Additionally,
portions of this Agenda Item are typed verbatim on the respective Meeting Agenda which has also been
electronically forwarded to the individuals noted above, and which is also available on the City's Website,
LaserFiche, and the City's Server; has been sent to applicable City Staff, eAlert /eCitizen Recipients,
Media/Press Representatives who have requested Agendas /Agenda Item information, Homeowner's
Associations /Representatives on file with the City, and all individuals who have requested such
information. This information has also been posted outside City Hall, posted inside City Hall with
additional copies available for the General Public, and posted at five (5) different locations around the City.
Furthermore, this information is also available to any individual requestors. City Staff is always willing to
discuss this Agenda Item or any Agenda Item with any interested individuals.
RECOMMENDATION:
The Parks and Recreation Department is requesting the City Commission approve and authorize the City
Manager to execute the three (3) year Agreement between the City of Winter Springs and the Scottish
American Society of Central Florida, Inc. for the 35th , 36th and 37th Annual Central Florida Scottish
Festival and Highland Games.
There was no discussion on this Agenda Item.
CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING -NOVEMBER 28, 2011 PAGE 4 OF 19
CONSENT
201. Finance and Administrative Services Department
REQUEST:
City Manager is requesting that the Commission consider approval of Resolution 2011 -55 amending the
Fiscal Year 2010 -2011 Budget.
FISCAL IMPACT:
This agenda item only amends the budget and is for reporting purposes only it does not have an impact on
actual revenues or expenditures.
COMMUNICATION EFFORTS:
This Agenda Item has been electronically forwarded to the Mayor and City Commission, City Manager,
City Attorney /Staff, and is available on the City's Website, LaserFiche, and the City's Server. Additionally,
portions of this Agenda Item are typed verbatim on the respective Meeting Agenda which has also been
electronically forwarded to the individuals noted above, and which is also available on the City's Website,
LaserFiche, and the City's Server; has been sent to applicable City Staff, eAlert /eCitizen Recipients,
Media/Press Representatives who have requested Agendas /Agenda Item information, Homeowner's
Associations /Representatives on file with the City, and all individuals who have requested such
information. This information has also been posted outside City Hall, posted inside City Hall with
additional copies available for the General Public, and posted at five (5) different locations around the City.
Furthermore, this information is also available to any individual requestors. City Staff is always willing to
discuss this Agenda Item or any Agenda Item with any interested individuals.
Additionally, within one week of approval the fiscal year 2010 -2011 final budget amendment will be placed
on the City's Website.
RECOMMENDATION:
The City Manager recommends the Commission approve Resolution 2011 -55 amending the Fiscal Year
2010 -2011 Budget.
No discussion.
CONSENT
202. Police Department
REQUEST:
The Police Department requests the City Commission to approve Resolution 2011 -58 to suspend on- street
parking regulations during the 2011 Holiday Season.
FISCAL IMPACT:
None.
COMMUNICATION EFFORTS:
This Agenda Item has been electronically forwarded to the Mayor and City Commission, City Manager,
City Attorney /Staff, and is available on the City's Website, LaserFiche, and the City's Server. Additionally,
portions of this Agenda Item are typed verbatim on the respective Meeting Agenda which has also been
electronically forwarded to the individuals noted above, and which is also available on the City's Website,
LaserFiche, and the City's Server; has been sent to applicable City Staff, eAlert /eCitizen Recipients,
Media/Press Representatives who have requested Agendas /Agenda Item information, Homeowner's
Associations /Representatives on file with the City, and all individuals who have requested such
information. This information has also been posted outside City Hall, posted inside City Hall with
additional copies available for the General Public, and posted at five (5) different locations around the City.
Furthermore, this information is also available to any individual requestors. City Staff is always willing to
discuss this Agenda Item or any Agenda Item with any interested individuals.
CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - NOVEMBER 28, 2011 PAGE 5 OF 19
RECOMMENDATION:
The Police Department recommends the Commission approve Resolution 2011 -58 to suspend on- street
parking regulations City -wide during the 2011 holiday season.
This Agenda Item was not discussed.
CONSENT
203. Office of the City Clerk
REQUEST:
Requesting the City Commission Approve the Wednesday, November 9, 2011 City Commission Attorney —
Client Session /Special Meeting Minutes.
FISCAL IMPACT:
There is no Fiscal Impact to this Agenda Item. At a later date, when the Court Reporter completes the
official Transcript of the closed portion of this Attorney - Client Session, the Court Reporter will send in an
Invoice for his /her services which typically can range from the hundreds of dollars on up, depending on
the length /complexity of the closed portion of the Attorney- Client Session the Court Reporter attended.
When that Invoice is received, it will be paid for (typically) out of the Line Code
COMMUNICATION EFFORTS:
This Agenda Item has been electronically forwarded to the Mayor and City Commission, City Manager,
City Attorney /Staff, and is available on the City's Website, LaserFiche, and the City's Server. Additionally,
portions of this Agenda Item are typed verbatim on the respective Meeting Agenda which has also been
electronically forwarded to the individuals noted above, and which is also available on the City's Website,
LaserFiche, and the City's Server; has been sent to applicable City Staff, eAlert /eCitizen Recipients,
Media/Press Representatives who have requested Agendas /Agenda Item information, Homeowner's
Associations /Representatives on file with the City, and all individuals who have requested such
information. This information has also been posted outside City Hall, posted inside City Hall with
additional copies available for the General Public, and posted at five (5) different locations around the City.
Furthermore, this information is also available to any individual requestors. City Staff is always willing to
discuss this Agenda Item or any Agenda Item with any interested individuals.
RECOMMENDATION:
The City Commission is respectfully requested to Approve the Wednesday, November 9, 2011 City
Commission Attorney - Client Session /Special Meeting Minutes.
City Manager Kevin L. Smith commented, "An oversight on behalf of Staff, relative to item 203, your Agenda
Item is accurate and correct. The Agenda however under `Fiscal Impact' references the funding source for the
payment of the bill. That funding source was left blank accidentally in the Agenda itself. It should just read from
the Legal Line Code. Our apologies."
CONSENT
204. Office of the City Clerk
REQUEST:
Requesting the City Commission Approve the Monday, November 14, 2011 City Commission Regular
Meeting Minutes.
FISCAL IMPACT:
There is no Fiscal Impact to this Agenda Item.
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COMMUNICATION EFFORTS:
This Agenda Item has been electronically forwarded to the Mayor and City Commission, City Manager,
City Attorney /Staff, and is available on the City's Website, LaserFiche, and the City's Server. Additionally,
portions of this Agenda Item are typed verbatim on the respective Meeting Agenda which has also been
electronically forwarded to the individuals noted above, and which is also available on the City's Website,
LaserFiche, and the City's Server; has been sent to applicable City Staff, eAlert /eCitizen Recipients,
Media/Press Representatives who have requested Agendas /Agenda Item information, Homeowner's
Associations /Representatives on file with the City, and all individuals who have requested such
information. This information has also been posted outside City Hall, posted inside City Hall with
additional copies available for the General Public, and posted at five (5) different locations around the City.
Furthermore, this information is also available to any individual requestors. City Staff is always willing to
discuss this Agenda Item or any Agenda Item with any interested individuals.
RECOMMENDATION:
The City Commission is respectfully requested to Approve the Monday, November 14, 2011 City
Commission Regular Meeting Minutes.
There was no discussion on this Agenda Item.
"MOTION TO APPROVE CONSENT (AGENDA)." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BROWN.
SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR HOVEY. DISCUSSION.
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH NO OBJECTIONS.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER RESNICK: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER BONNER: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR HOVEY: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
AWARDS AND PRESENTATIONS
AWARDS AND PRESENTATIONS
300. Not Used
REPORTS
REPORTS
400. Office Of The City Attorney — Anthony A. Garganese, Esquire
City Attorney Anthony A. Garganese reference the Atlantic Housing Partners, LLLP Settlement, and that the
Florida Housing Finance Corporation "Will be considering the transfer of Tax Credit request at its meeting, I
believe it's December 6 th , ( 2011) coming up and I'm going to forward some information to you all. The local
representative for Florida Housing Finance Corporation, so you all may want to make a contact there, I believe
it's Mary Demetree from Winter Park but I will forward the information to you."
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REPORTS
401. Office Of The City Manager — Kevin L. Smith
Manager Smith remarked, "First and foremost, as you all are already aware, but just to publicly let everyone in
the audience and those listening on the internet - congratulate Chief (Kevin) Brunelle (Police Department), his
entire team, and the entire City, for their Re- Accreditation that was just awarded - for a three (3) year period. So,
if I could just impose upon everyone for a round of applause. It's a great accomplishment. It goes to the Chief's
leadership and his entire team."
Next, Manager Smith asked that Mr. Randy Stevenson, ASLA, AICP, Director, Community Development
Department introduce his new Planner.
Mr. Stevenson introduced Mr. Randy Woodruff, AICP, Senior Planner, Community Development Department to
the Mayor and City Commission and those in attendance.
Lastly, Manager Smith commented on the City's Newsletter to the City Commission and stated, "For a variety of
reasons in the past, before our Newsletter went out, it was asked or directed that that be reviewed by this body
prior to it going out and if you all may recall, there were some reasons behind that. Now that we're going to a
monthly Newsletter what I would humbly ask is that the Commission consider maybe allowing for a Staff
approval of that or if you all would like to continue to see it, just from a turn- around standpoint, we'll be certainly
happy to accommodate that. But, again, now that we're doing a monthly Newsletter, just to meet the deadlines
that if you all would entrust me with that editing duty I will certainly not let you down."
Commissioner Gary Bonner said, "I am certainly comfortable with that. If at all possible, I would appreciate the
opportunity for an advance copy." Manager Smith responded, "Absolutely." Mayor Lacey added, "Likewise."
Commissioner Resnick also agreed.
Mayor Lacey then asked the City Commission, "Is there objection to the Manager taking direction to have
authority to issue the monthly Newsletter ?" Deputy Mayor Hovey, and Commissioner Bonner commented, "No
objection."
REPORTS
402. Office Of The City Clerk — Andrea Lorenzo - Luaces, MMC
City Clerk Andrea Lorenzo - Luaces mentioned that the Deputy Mayor Nomination Agenda Item would be on the
December 12, 2011 City Commission Regular Meeting Agenda.
REPORTS
403. Office Of Commissioner Seat One /Deputy Mayor — The Honorable Jean Hovey
Deputy Mayor Hovey asked if anyone was planning to attend a Department of Transportation meeting on
December 6 2011 that will deal with State Road 419, State Road 434 and State Road 426 and asked if anyone
else was planning to attend.
It was noted that Mr. Brian Fields, P.E., City Engineer, Public Works Department would also be attending. No
one else mentioned they would also be there.
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Next, Deputy Mayor Hovey said she attended a recent meeting of the Seminole County Public Schools School
Board and pointed out that Dr. Tina Calderone is the new Chairman and Ms. Karen Almond is the new Vice
Chair. Deputy Mayor Hovey added that at this same Seminole County Public Schools School Board meeting,
Winter Springs' Elementary Schools are on the list for closure.
Discussion followed on attendance thresholds; that a decision might be made in January 2012; what the source of
this information was; and previous comments to the contrary made by Dr. Bill Vogel at a meeting that
Commissioner Rick Brown had recently attended.
Deputy Mayor Hovey then suggested that residents should contact their Seminole County Public Schools Board
Member(s) if they are opposed to any possible Winter Springs schools closing.
REPORTS
404. Office Of Commissioner Seat Two — The Honorable Rick Brown
No Report.
REPORTS
405. Office Of Commissioner Seat Three — The Honorable Gary Bonner
Commissioner Bonner spoke of his rescheduling to be here tonight.
Next, Commissioner Bonner commented about the intersection of Seneca Boulevard and Northern Way and asked
that Mr. Fields asked him to explain what they were working on.
Mr. Fields explained they were working on a valley gutter replacement at the intersection of Seneca Boulevard
and Vistawilla Drive, and that this will be the first of others throughout the City. It was explained that this small
project was estimated to take about two (2) weeks and that information was available on the City's Website.
REPORTS
406. Office Of Commissioner Seat Four — The Honorable Cade Resnick
No Report.
REPORTS
407. Office Of Commissioner Seat Five — The Honorable Joanne M. Krebs
Absent.
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REPORTS
408. Office Of The Mayor — The Honorable Charles Lacey
Mayor Lacey noted that he had attended a few SunRail meetings lately and suggested that if the City Commission
had any input, to please get with him on this.
Next, Mayor Lacey commented on a restructuring of the Mayors and Managers Group and noted, "The hope is to
make it a more functional body that is a better facilitator of intra - municipality type of issues."
Mayor Lacey also mentioned that the Mayors and Managers Group had discussed the viability of the Council of
Local Governments in Seminole County (CALNO) and the basic consensus was that there were other local
organizations that handled the same matters that the Council of Local Governments in Seminole County
(CALNO) did; and that the various members of the Mayors and Managers Group were considering looking into
the possibility that of disbanding the Council of Local Governments in Seminole County (CALNO). Continuing,
Mayor Lacey inquired of the City Commission, "Is there any dissenting point of view on that from the
Commission that I should be taking into account ?"
Mayor Lacey then spoke briefly of the December Council of Local Governments in Seminole County (CALNO)
meeting that the City of Winter Springs is hosting, which will be on Wednesday, December 7, 2011 at 7:00 p.m.,
here at City Hall.
Furthermore, Mayor Lacey noted that he would keep them updated on this issue, and asked the City Commission
to provide him with any comments they may have. Further comments.
Discussion followed on whether Seminole County Public Schools School Board and Seminole State College are
still a part of the Mayors and Managers Group, and some concerns that the Mayors and Managers Group has had
with Seminole County Public Schools. Mayor Lacey mentioned that this is still being worked through with the
reorganization of the Mayors and Managers Group.
Commissioner Resnick then asked about the dissolution of the Council of Local Governments in Seminole
County (CALNO), to which Mayor Lacey explained, "It would be a disbandment. How that would actually
happen, it may be that it just completely disbands or maybe that just each municipality withdraws but Winter
Springs would not withdraw unless it was a Consensus of everyone to withdraw."
Mayor Lacey then commented on how the Oviedo - Winter Springs Regional Chamber of Commerce seems to be
lined up more with Oviedo than Winter Springs and noted that on the Board of eighteen (18) members, eleven
(11) are Oviedo representatives, two (2) Winter Springs representatives, and the others could be considered
neutral. Mayor Lacey added, "I think we're losing out on Winter Springs representation there and I think that is a
symptom of the problem. The major problem being more that there is not enough Winter Springs business
participation in the Chamber. So, I think that is the solution to it. Mayor Lacey mentioned that he had asked the
Executive Director to have his Sales Staff try to involve more Winter Springs businesses.
Commissioner Resnick noted that the Oviedo - Winter Springs Regional Chamber of Commerce had an open call
for four (4) new Board members and that all four (4) applicants were from Oviedo. Commissioner Resnick also
mentioned that potential business owners he had spoken to wondered about the benefits of joining the Oviedo -
Winter Springs Regional Chamber of Commerce members.
Mayor Lacey noted that it would be very helpful for Oviedo - Winter Springs Regional Chamber of Commerce
Sales Staff to help with getting Winter Springs businesses to participate.
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Commissioner Bonner remarked, "Back to our Newsletter, since we are an (Oviedo - Winter Springs Regional
Chamber of Commerce) Trustee member, would it be appropriate for us to include some sort of reference or note
over to the Chamber's need for Winter Springs' diversification. Maybe that might reach an audience that is not
currently being reached by the Chamber's efforts." Commissioner Bonner added, "Just bring it to the attention
that there is a desire by the Chamber to expand its Winter Springs representation. Some supportive but not
necessarily overt — we are not selling on their behalf, we are just bringing the information to the awareness of the
community."
Mayor Lacey suggested, "Commissioner Resnick, would you do that ?"
Lastly, Mayor Lacey commented on "Light up UCF (University of Central Florida)" which is being held in early
December and to let the City Clerk know if anyone wants to participate; and then Mayor Lacey would ask for
armbands for those who would like to attend.
❖❖ AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING ADDITIONAL REPORT WAS DISCUSSED
NEXT, AS DOCUMENTED. ❖ ❖
REPORTS
REPORTS
403. Office Of Commissioner Seat One /Deputy Mayor — The Honorable Jean Hovey
Deputy Mayor Hovey asked Chief Brunelle about noise complaints at The Kee Wee Entertainment District. Chief
Brunelle added, "We're still trying to deal with it as best we can." Deputy Mayor Hovey asked that Captain Chris
Deisler, Police Department be thanked for his assistance.
Further remarks ensued about the "Light up UCF (University of Central Florida)" and the date of Friday,
December 9 2011 was confirmed; and that this event would begin at 7:30 p.m.
PUBLIC INPUT
No one spoke at this time.
PUBLIC HEARINGS AGENDA
PUBLIC HEARINGS
500.1. Community Development Department - Planning Division
REQUEST:
The Community Development Department - Planning Division requests the City Commission considers
approval of a Final Engineering Plan for an 8,000 square foot Family Dollar store located on the north side
of State Road 434, between Fairfax Avenue and Devon Avenue.
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FISCAL IMPACT:
The potential tax revenue of the proposed project is estimated as follows: 8,000 Square foot Family Dollar
Store assessed at approximately $1,000,000 $1,000,000 /1000 = $1,000.00 $1,000 x (2.5814) = $2,581.40
$25,091.21 (less the 4% statutory discount) = $2,478.14 tax revenue City of Winter Springs taxes paid on
vacant land now (data obtained from Seminole County Property Appraiser): $2,276
Total Potential Ad Valorem Tax Revenue: $4,754.14
COMMUNICATION EFFORTS:
This Agenda Item has been electronically forwarded to the Mayor and City Commission, City Manager,
City Attorney /Staff, and is available on the City's Website, LaserFiche, and the City's Server. Additionally,
portions of this Agenda Item are typed verbatim on the respective Meeting Agenda which has also been
electronically forwarded to the individuals noted above, and which is also available on the City's Website,
LaserFiche, and the City's Server; has been sent to applicable City Staff, eAlert /eCitizen Recipients,
Media/Press Representatives who have requested Agendas /Agenda Item information, Homeowner's
Associations /Representatives on file with the City, and all individuals who have requested such
information. This information has also been posted outside City Hall, posted inside City Hall with
additional copies available for the General Public, and posted at five (5) different locations around the City.
Furthermore, this information is also available to any individual requestors. City Staff is always willing to
discuss this Agenda Item or any Agenda Item with any interested individuals.
The property has been posted with a standard yellow sign announcing the action being considered and
giving information relative to the meeting place and time.
RECOMMENDATION:
Staff and the Planning & Zoning Board recommend the City Commission approve the Final Engineering
Plan for Family Dollar.
Mr. Bobby Howell, AICP, Planner, Community Development Department reviewed some of the basics of this
Agenda Item and project with the City Commission.
Mayor Lacey opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
Mr. Richard Grogan, I North Fairfax Avenue, Winter Springs, Florida: addressed the City Commission and
noted he was not opposed to this project but said they had always been public parking on the Fairfax Avenue side
of the property under discussion; and that he heard that the parking was going away with this new project. Mr.
Grogan noted that he thought that the change in parking would impact his business and asked for some kind of
compromise that the parking he has been used to, would stay the same.
Mr. Stevenson spoke on the Code in terms of parking, and neighbor issues and joint uses.
With further comments, Mr. Grogan suggested, "Could there be indented parallel parking put there, the same as
you have in the Town Center ?"
Mr. Stevenson added, "Based upon the overlay, if the parking were left in its current configuration, it encroaches
into that — probably a foot, eight inches (8 ") to a foot." Mr. Grogan asked if a compromise could be reached,
especially for such a small distance.
Mr. Stevenson then noted, "That's the parking as it exists. There probably is enough physical room there to put in
parallel parking as Mr. Grogan has stated; but again, I do draw you back to your section of the Code that prohibits
parking, whether it's parallel, or ninety degrees, or angle parking and it is in the right -of -way. It would have to be
a situation of a) it's a Waiver from your Code; b) who pays to install it; and c) who maintains it."
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Commissioner Rick Brown asked "That we get creative and figure out a solution to this."
With further comments, Mr. Fields noted, "The existing parking encroaches into the property by approximately
one foot (1'). The sidewalk is in the right -of -way for five foot (5') so the existing parking would encroach over
the full width of the sidewalk plus another foot into the property; so you could not do angle or head in parking
with the sidewalk. You could do three (3), maybe four (4) parallel parking spaces here."
Mr. Grogan then stated, "I don't want Family Dollar to change their plans whatsoever. I'm not here about that.
I'm here about this parking. But the fact that you're going to put in a five foot (5') sidewalk, that there is not a
single one on my side of town. Why ?"
Discussion
Mr. Jay R. Jackson, P.E., Senior Vice President /Principal, Kimley -Horn and Associates, Inc., 3660 Maguire
Boulevard, Suite 200, Orlando, Florida: as the Civil Engineer on this project, Mr. Jackson stated, "The pond has
actually got a little bit of a berm; it is up about a foot and a half. It grades over flat to the sidewalk and then from
the sidewalk, grades down to Fairfax (Avenue); so, there's about a foot slope from the sidewalk to Fairfax
(Avenue) now. If it was simple, just cutting the existing pavement, putting a sidewalk in, I don't think my client
would have any issues with it. But what it's going to entail is actually removing the asphalt that's there, and then
putting new asphalt in and its going to have a foot slope across it in eight feet (8'). I don't think it's very desirable
from a parking standpoint if you're parallel parking, so there would be some considerable changes that would
have to occur to the Site Plan to get that parking back in."
Mr. Grogan remarked, "Sixteen (16) years I've worked over there and when I bought that building I was told that
stays there, the City put it there. And it's not in their property and I just want to come to a compromise please."
Mr. Kip Lockcuff, P.E., Director, Public Works /Utility Departments explained, "There were no representations
that the parking would stay. Actually, the City didn't put that in. It was in prior to the City buying the property in
1984. My office was there from 1991 to 1993. We sold it to Richard (Grogan) in 1995 but - that's the old North
Orlando Company office from late [19]70's, early [19]80's. So, they put all that in. It was used as City Hall, not
owned as City Hall, but used as City Hall, late [19]70's, early [19]80's. But we got the building in 1984 when we
bought the Utility company. So, we ran the Utility billing office out of there from 1984 to 1993, sold it in 1995;
but there was no representations in the Warranty, the Appraisal. I wrote the Bid ad. Nothing."
Further comments followed.
Mayor Lacey inquired of Mr. Grogan, "Are you finding that your customers are actually using those parking spots
now ?" Mr. Grogan responded, "Yes."
Discussion continued
Mr. Fields explained, "Here is how we looked at it in Staff review from a technical standpoint. We saw twenty -
five (25) new parking spaces going in that meets standards, that are on this property. Those parking spaces will
not be restricted in any way. The idea and this Code is written with the intent that somebody comes and parks
here, goes to Family Dollar, maybe walks across to the convenience store and gets a drink and walks over here
and gets a haircut. They can park over here, get a haircut, walk over to Family Dollar afterwards. It's shared
parking - is the goal of this. So, I think we're adding a lot more parking to this area that does not exist today. I
don't believe that creating three (3), maybe four (4) parallel parking spaces in an area that just doesn't have
parallel parking today would be a solution here. I believe there's adequate parking to approve for all the
businesses with this plan."
Mr. Grogan mentioned cooperation; problems he has had with another nearby center not wanting him to use their
parking; and ingress and egress.
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Commissioner Resnick asked, "Was there something within the agreement, for an agreement that we keep that -
maybe we can make a formal agreement to make a partnership for you and for the businesses around you ?" Mr.
Fields said, "There's currently no Developer's Agreement with this project because there are no Code exceptions.
The Applicant has indicated they have no intentions to restrict or prohibit parking. I think they realize that it
helps their business to have that cooperation. Understand it's not happening everywhere around here now but it
will happen with this project."
Manager Smith asked about guarantees that we could incorporate, to assist Mr. Grogan. Mayor Lacey added that
a future possible change of ownership should also be considered with any guarantees for Mr. Grogan.
Mr. Chuck Borysiak, Development Project Manager, The Hutton Company, 736 Cherry Street,
Chattanooga, Tennessee: addressed the City Commission and stated, "We're developing those for Family Dollar
and then we'll be selling the land back to them — the Code requires that there is cross parking. They're aware of
that but - they have not agreed to encumber the property with anything additional to that, like a Parking Easement
or anything like that. That would have had to have happened a year ago when we first started looking at the
property." Mr. Borysiak added, "They're happy to do everything as required by Code, as far as cross access."
Commissioner Bonner clarified, "The Code encourages but does not require." Commissioner Bonner continued,
"And Family Dollar is willing to comply with the Code; but what I hear is if there were a Developer's Agreement
requirement to support the Code in that manner, and not object to that cross parking, that could be a problem in
the deal with Family Dollar, between you as the Developer and them as your client. Am I hearing that right ?"
Mr. Borysiak said, "I think so, but again, we're kind of at a late stage here. We're supposed to pull Permits and
start construction in about a month on this project. So, again, that may have been something that they would have
entertained but tonight, I can't certainly commit Family Dollar to that; but yes, I mean that's the intent. They
understand these spaces are here and they understand that the Code requires cross parking for all neighbors just as
it was explained."
Discussion continued on notifications; and that Mr. Grogan does not use the Internet, but he saw the sign
advertising the Meeting.
Tape 1 /Side B
With discussion, Commissioner Bonner thanked Mr. Grogan for his service.
Deputy Mayor Hovey commented on parking demands at the convenience store and noted, "I could see this
parking at Family Dollar being full during the time that Richard (Grogan) has his business open. So, I think we
need to see what we can do to work out the parking situation for Mr. Grogan."
Commissioner Resnick commented, "I think before we make any absolute final deals here, we should absolutely
follow what Commissioner Bonner said, look at every angle." Continuing, Commissioner Resnick remarked
about a suggested four (4) or five (5) parking spots that were discussed for Mr. Grogan's business, the
convenience store, and asked, "What are the benefits and if we have a large parking lot here available to us with
an 8,000 square foot but no actual agreement as to who can park on that later on, if this convenience store is
taking up too many spots, this company may not be as convenient at the time or as nice to us."
Discussion followed on whether this new project might impact Mr. Grogan's business.
Commissioner Brown suggested that a statement from Family Dollar related to parking would be helpful.
With further comments, Mayor Lacey said, "It looks like we are searching for some way to get a guarantee — or
something less than a guarantee, but something that Mr. Grogan can rely upon in the future that will give him
access to those parking spots."
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Mr. Stevenson noted, "Not being totally aware of the impact on the engineering, there is physical room for
approximately three (3) parallel spaces in the right of way there." Additionally, Mr. Stevenson said, "We need to
deal with the Code issue there where we have a prohibition of parking in the right -of way. That's when we came
up with that; that's when as Kevin (Smith) explained, we felt that the cross access or the - joint use of parking
would help address Mr. Grogan's situation at that point in time.
And again, also it may behoove Staff to talk to some of the neighbors, i.e., the Center to the east to talk about this
joint use of parking as well. Again, the Code language just encourages it at this point. The prohibition against
parking in the right -of way is specific though and we would have to address that issue. That might open up an
opportunity for us to work on something that would help Mr. Grogan. Again, with this piece of property - it is a
Permitted Use and because they have met all of their Code requirements, there is no Development Agreement for
the property."
Further comments.
Mr. Borysiak said, "I can go to them and ask for them for a letter in writing or something that says, `Understand
what the Code says, and they're not going to restrict the parking from the neighbors'; and the second thing that
we're talking about is relieving us of the sidewalk requirement and then possibly being able to work around the
existing concrete pad that's there would be - another possible solution, because the sidewalk is really what's in the
way of the existing concrete pad. So, those are two (2) ideas that we had."
Commissioner Bonner said to Mr. Grogan, "If your customers could park in the new spaces as proposed in this
engineering at Family Dollar, just as it is drawn up and presented tonight, and you had a guarantee that you could
rely on, that your customers would be able to do so, would that satisfy your... " Mr. Grogan said, "... I don't think
you can deliver. You can't guarantee that I can park there — as we mentioned earlier, they may sell the business to
someone else."
With further discussion, Mr. Grogan added, "Right now, there's approximately six (6) spaces, seven (7) spaces.
I'm willing to go to three (3). Just don't want it to go away."
Commissioner Bonner summarized, "So, your desired outcome, just to be clear, would be the parallel parking
solution. That would be your desired outcome as opposed to an assurance that your clients could park in the
Family Dollar parking lot..." Mr. Grogan remarked, "...Only because I've already been told by other entities on
the other side."
Continuing, Commissioner Bonner asked Attorney Garganese about the Code and stated, "Would the Applicant
or any other business that is operating under that Code, do they have the right to deny neighbor parking? Does
the Code give them the right to practice property rights? And even though the Code states that there should be
neighbor parking, does the property owner have the right to deny parking if they deem that it is necessary to do
so ?" Further comments.
Attorney Garganese responded about the Code and noted that it says, "Encourages coordinated joint use of
parking. It's not a requirement under the Code." Attorney Garganese added that "Under this scenario, even if we
had a Code provision, I would question whether we could impose as a City, parking for Mr. Grogan's business. "
Mr. Fields stated, "One of the things they are required to do by Code is to dedicate Cross Access Easement which
legally allows access through the site for cross access. One potential solution would be to have within that Cross
Access Easement dedication an equal number of parking spaces could be part of that dedicated for — some
language for cross access use, so they could not be restricted. That would be one (1) option if it's agreeable to the
owner.
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The engineering solution to do the parallel parking spaces would likely require a retaining wall due to the grading.
That's there. So it's doable but the question would come up, if the Commission wanted to see that as far as who
would be responsible for implementing that. A small retaining wall - I want to emphasize this engineering is
doable with a retaining wall between this driveway and likely this area here, just to provide some relief from the
grading so we don't have too severe a slope."
Discussion continued.
Deputy Mayor Hovey asked Mr. Grogan, "Have you ever had an agreement to use that property ?"
Mr. Grogan responded by saying, "Verbal. Not written." Mr. Grogan then explained the verbal agreement was
with "I believe it was Dan Wood owned that property — and he was here to put a gas station, convenience store, a
new place; and he was here at the time when you made the Ordinance that you couldn't have two (2) gas stations
next to each other. So, I met him and talked to him extensively at that time. He told me I could park over there
all I wanted."
Referencing the Site Plan, Mr. Fields stated, "We could build at least three (3), probably four (4) parallel parking
spaces here. They're obligated to build the sidewalk. If we wanted to build a retaining wall and the parallel
parking spaces which would benefit others and be available for public parking, that we could have an arrangement
where they design, build that, and that cost be reimbursed by the City."
Manager Smith asked Mr. Fields what the approximate cost of that would be. Mr. Fields stated, "Retaining wall,
parking probably in the range of fifteen thousand dollars ($15,000.00). This project will generate approximately
twenty -five thousand dollars ($25,000.00) of Transportation Impact Fees."
Commissioner Bonner said to Mr. Fields, If the City were to create some Town Center -esque parallel parking
places there, that would benefit all of the businesses because - anyone who parked there could visit any of the
businesses, depending on their need."
Mayor Lacey suggested that the "Cross access requirements be expanded to somehow grant parking rights in
there" be further considered.
Discussion followed on public parking.
Attorney Garganese noted, "There is a parking aspect in the right -of -way that's been in existence for a period of
time, so the question for the Commission is, `Do you want that parking area to go away, because it's in the right -
of -way and that issue is controlled by the City Commission. If you don't want the parking to go away and you to
preserve it somehow, then that impacts the Developer's Application because they're asking for a development
proposal that's going to eliminate de facto public parking on City right -of -way. So, how is that going to be
addressed to the Commission's satisfaction, assuming the Commission wants to maintain some parking on the
public right -of -way. That is how I see the issue from a legal perspective."
With further comments, Attorney Garganese pointed out, "They're asking to impact the City rights -of -way. It's
not the other way around. It's their proposal that's impacting the City's rights -of -way. So, how it gets addressed
to the Commission's satisfaction needs to be flushed out."
Mr. Stevenson added, "Along those lines, part of your consideration must be that, part of their development plans,
their engineering plans are constructed within the right -of -way because they need to put in public sidewalks. So,
they're already constructing within the right -of- way."
Mr. Borysiak remarked, "I understand his point; and we're happy to work within our property line. I mean if you
want us just to go to our property line and stop our construction there, and everything in the right -of -way stays the
City's responsibility, that's fine with us also. We're happy to work within our property and stay out of the City's
right -of- way."
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Manager Smith noted, "The benefits that the City gets is they put in sidewalks." Mr. Stevenson added, "It's in
our Code."
Discussion.
Chief Brunelle was asked for his comments and stated, "The curbing and the only other concern I would have
there is where the doors are going to open into the lane of traffic." Chief Brunelle added, "I think if it is done
right, it would work." Furthermore, Chief Brunelle noted, "Those would be my primary concerns — the egress
and the exits."
Manager Smith suggested, "Engineer the site, whatever needs to be done to allow for a sidewalk to run
southbound from the top of the screen, down to the current parking area; re- engineer that parking area to become
parallel spaces and then continue the sidewalk below that then to connect with the sidewalk at the bottom section
of the property on (State Road) 434." Mr. Stevenson added, "I think we can probably accommodate that, if we
can re- engineer around that and stripe that. We'll have removed that eight inches (8 ") of whatever that actually
overlaps on their property but by going parallel parking, we don't need that complete width there."
Manager Smith then said to Mr. Stevenson, "Am I understanding that the Applicant is agreeable to what we've
been discussing ?" Mr. Stevenson nodded in agreement.
Further comments followed on parking and costs
Tape 2 /Side A
Discussion.
Mayor Lacey closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item
Mr. Stevenson summarized the discussion and said, "What happens is that the sidewalk starts here, continues
down to the existing slab, utilizes the existing slab, less a portion that will be saw cut off of the applicant's
property; picks up on the south side on that slab and goes as the engineering plans currently have it and ties into
the sidewalk on (State Road) 434. There's a small retaining wall to help us with the grading right here for the
applicant's property.
They do not have to build this portion of sidewalk and hopefully when they have their painter's out there they'll
come in and they'll put a line here for the sidewalk and three (3) or four (4) however many spaces we wind up
with, they'll line those all for us. So, we've got the parking, the continuous sidewalk, the small retaining wall to
help with the grading, parking remains there. And again, what staff needed was your acquiescence to allowing
the parking in the right -of- way."
"SO MOVED WITH THE CHANGES THAT WERE JUST REITERATED BY RANDY (STEVENSON)."
MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR HOVEY. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BROWN.
DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
DEPUTY MAYOR HOVEY: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER RESNICK: AYE
COMMISSIONER BONNER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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PUBLIC HEARINGS
500.2. Community Development Department - Planning Division
REQUEST:
Community Development Department - Planning Division requests the City Commission hold a Public
Hearing to consider the Aesthetic Review for Family Dollar, an 8,000 square foot retail building located on
the north side of State Road 434, between Fairfax Avenue and Devon Avenue.
FISCAL IMPACT:
The potential tax revenue of the proposed project is estimated as follows: 8,000 Square foot Family Dollar
Store assessed at approximately $1,000,000 $1,000,000 /1000 = $1,000.00 $1,000 x (2.5814) = $2,581.40
$25,091.21 (less the 4% statutory discount) = $2,478.14 tax revenue City of Winter Springs taxes paid on
vacant land now (data obtained from Seminole County Property Appraiser): $2,276
Total Potential Ad Valorem Tax Revenue: $4,754.14
COMMUNICATION EFFORTS:
This Agenda Item has been electronically forwarded to the Mayor and City Commission, City Manager,
City Attorney /Staff, and is available on the City s Website, LaserFiche, and the City s Server. Additionally,
portions of this Agenda Item are typed verbatim on the respective Meeting Agenda which has also been
electronically forwarded to the individuals noted above, and which is also available on the City s Website,
LaserFiche, and the City's Server; has been sent to applicable City Staff, eAlert /eCitizen Recipients,
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Associations /Representatives on file with the City, and all individuals who have requested such
information. This information has also been posted outside City Hall, posted inside City Hall with
additional copies available for the General Public, and posted at five (5) different locations around the City.
Furthermore, this information is also available to any individual requestors. City Staff is always willing to
discuss this Agenda Item or any Agenda Item with any interested individuals. The property has been
posted with a standard yellow sign announcing the action being considered and giving information relative
to the meeting place and time.
RECOMMENDATION:
Staff and the Planning and Zoning Board recommend the City Commission approve the Aesthetic Review
Plans for Family Dollar.
Mr. Howell presented this Agenda Item and showed PowerPoint slides.
Mayor Lacey opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
No one spoke.
Mayor Lacey closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
"MOTION TO APPROVE." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BROWN. SECONDED BY DEPUTY
MAYOR HOVEY. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BONNER: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR HOVEY: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER RESNICK: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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Deputy Mayor Hovey asked Mr. Fields, "It was brought up that on (State Road) 434, there is supposed to be cross
access between properties. As Mr. Grogan mentioned, the one the Atrium II building does not have cross access.
The one end is blocked. Is that against our Code ?"
Mr. Fields explained, "New developments - as new properties come in, they're required to make that dedication;
so, if they didn't have it before, I don't believe we have the means to go back and require that." Furthermore, Mr.
Fields added, "Unless they a Cross Access Easement, which is what would be required here, I believe they have
the ability to close their own private driveways at that point. An existing business that does not have a Cross
Access Easement — a private driveway, they could close it."
REGULAR AGENDA
REGULAR
600.
REQUEST:
Not Used
FISCAL IMPACT:
COMMUNICATION EFFORTS:
This Agenda Item has been electronically forwarded to the Mayor and City Commission, City Manager,
City Attorney /Staff, and is available on the City s Website, LaserFiche, and the City s Server. Additionally,
portions of this Agenda Item are typed verbatim on the respective Meeting Agenda which has also been
electronically forwarded to the individuals noted above, and which is also available on the City s Website,
LaserFiche, and the City's Server; has been sent to applicable City Staff, eAlert /eCitizen Recipients,
Media/Press Representatives who have requested Agendas /Agenda Item information, Homeowner's
Associations /Representatives on file with the City, and all individuals who have requested such
information. This information has also been posted outside City Hall, posted inside City Hall with
additional copies available for the General Public, and posted at five (5) different locations around the City.
Furthermore, this information is also available to any individual requestors. City Staff is always willing to
discuss this Agenda Item or any Agenda Item with any interested individuals.
RECOMMENDATION:
PUBLIC INPUT
No one addressed the Mayor and City Commission.
Mayor Lacey closed this Public Input portion.
In other City business, the Christmas Tree Lighting and Parade was mentioned as being scheduled for Saturday,
December 3r 2011 beginning at 5:00 p.m. at Keeth Elementary School.
Mayor Lacey said to Mr. Brian Dunigan, Recreation and Special Events Coordinator, Parks and Recreation
Department, "You'll have written instructions for all the Commissioners sometime this week ?" Mr. Dunigan
responded by saying, "Yes, that's correct - all the written instructions will be placed in your mailbox before the
end of the day Wednesday."
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Commissioner Resnick spoke again of the Seminole County Public Schools School Board and the recent Chair
change. Mayor Lacey stated, "My intent was to call Ms. Schaffner since she made the arrangements and ask her
what would be an appropriate politically in dealing with the School Board and express that I think it would be
appropriate for us to invite the new Chairwoman either to attend or make the presentation."
Commissioner Bonner mentioned he would not be able to attend this weekend's events and wished all a Merry
Christmas.
Lastly, Mayor Lacey noted that he would now pass out a Memorandum from the City Clerk related to Holiday
observance and it would be in the City's records.
ADJOURNMENT
Mayor Lacey adjourned the Regular Meeting at 6:54 p.m.
RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED:
ANDREA LORENZO- LUACES, MMC
CITY CLERK
APPROVED:
MAYOR CHARLES LACEY
NOTE: These Minutes were approved at the 1 2011 City Commission Regular Meeting.
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MONDAY, NOVEMBER 28, 2011 - 5:15 P.M.
CITY HALL — COMMISSION CHAMBERS
1126 EAST STATE ROAD 434, WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA
Mayor Charles Lacey
Deputy Mayor Jean Hovey - Seat One
Commissioner Rick Brown - Seat Two
Commissioner Gary Bonner - Seat Three
Commissioner Cade Resnick - Seat Four
Commissioner Joanne M. Krebs - Seat Five
CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - NOVEMBER 28, 2011 PAGE 2 OF 19
CALL TO ORDER
The Regular Meeting of Monday, November 28, 2011 of the City Commission was called to Order by Mayor
Charles Lacey at 5:15 p.m. in the Commission Chambers of the Municipal Building (City Hall, 1126 East State
Road 434, Winter Springs, Florida 32708).
Roll Call:
Mayor Charles Lacey, present
Deputy Mayor Jean Hovey present
Commissioner Rick Brown, present
Commissioner Gary Bonner, present
Commissioner Cade Resnick, present
Commissioner Joanne M. Krebs, absent
City Manager Kevin L. Smith, present
City Attorney Anthony A. Garganese, present
A moment of silence was held, followed by the Pledge of Allegiance.
Related to Agenda Changes, Mayor Lacey remarked that as discussed at the November 14, 2011 City
Commission Regular Meeting, we were planning to have a presentation from the Seminole County School Board
here at City Hall. Mayor Lacey referenced a Memorandum from the City Manager that Commissioner Cade
Resnick and Deputy Mayor Jean Hovey had spoken to Seminole County Public Schools School Board Member
Dede Schaffner about this and that as a couple of Commissioners originally were not going to be at tonight's
Regular City Commission Meeting, it was suggested that this presentation be moved to the Monday December 12,
2011 City Commission Regular Meeting. Mayor Lacey added, "Subject to a Veto by the Commission, I told her
that would be acceptable." No objections were noted. Mayor Lacey said he would contact them and he would
discuss who should represent them at our City Commission Meeting.
INFORMATIONAL AGENDA
INFORMATIONAL
100. Community Development Department
REQUEST:
Community Development Department is advising the City Commission of the status of various current
planning projects.
FISCAL IMPACT:
There is no fiscal impact associated with this agenda item.
COMMUNICATION EFFORTS:
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City Attorney /Staff, and is available on the City s Website, LaserFiche, and the City's Server. Additionally,
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electronically forwarded to the individuals noted above, and which is also available on the City s Website,
LaserFiche, and the City's Server; has been sent to applicable City Staff, eAlert /eCitizen Recipients,
Media /Press Representatives who have requested Agendas /Agenda Item information, Homeowner's
Associations/Representatives on file with the City, and all individuals who have requested such
information. This information has also been posted outside City Hall, posted inside City Hall with
additional copies available for the General Public, and posted at five (5) different locations around the City.
Furthermore, this information is also available to any individual requestors. City Staff is always willing to
discuss this Agenda Item or any Agenda Item with any interested individuals.
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RECOMMENDATION:
Staff requests the City Commission receive and review the information provided in this Agenda Item.
This Agenda Item was not discussed.
"MOTION TO APPROVE (INFORMATIONAL AGENDA)." MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR HOVEY.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BROWN. DISCUSSION.
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH NO OBJECTIONS.
CONSENT AGENDA
CONSENT
200. Parks and Recreation Department
REQUEST:
The Parks and Recreation Department is requesting the City Commission approve and authorize the City
Manager to execute the three (3) - year Agreement between the City of Winter Springs and the Scottish
American Society of Central Florida, Inc. for the 35th , 36th and 37th Annual Central Florida Scottish
Festival and Highland Games.
FISCAL IMPACT:
Scottish Highland Games on Saturday /Sunday (January 14th & 15th) Parks: No costs Public Works: No
Costs Fire Department (Fire Inspection): Paid by Event Applicant Police: Paid by the Event Applicant
Event Permit: Paid by the Event Applicant Total Cost of the Scottish Highland Games to City: $0
COMMUNICATION EFFORTS:
This Agenda Item has been electronically forwarded to the Mayor and City Commission, City Manager,
City Attorney /Staff, and is available on the City's Website, LaserFiche, and the City's Server. Additionally,
portions of this Agenda Item are typed verbatim on the respective Meeting Agenda which has also been
electronically forwarded to the individuals noted above, and which is also available on the City's Website,
LaserFiche, and the City's Server; has been sent to applicable City Staff, eAlert /eCitizen Recipients,
Media /Press Representatives who have requested Agendas /Agenda Item information, Homeowner's
Associations /Representatives on file with the City, and all individuals who have requested such
information. This information has also been posted outside City Hall, posted inside City Hall with
additional copies available for the General Public, and posted at five (5) different locations around the City.
Furthermore, this information is also available to any individual requestors. City Staff is always willing to
discuss this Agenda Item or any Agenda Item with any interested individuals.
RECOMMENDATION:
The Parks and Recreation Department is requesting the City Commission approve and authorize the City
Manager to execute the three (3) year Agreement between the City of Winter Springs and the Scottish
American Society of Central Florida, Inc. for the 35th , 36th and 37th Annual Central Florida Scottish
Festival and Highland Games.
There was no discussion on this Agenda Item.
CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - NOVEMBER 28, 2011 PAGE 4 OF 19
CONSENT
201. Finance and Administrative Services Department
REQUEST:
City Manager is requesting that the Commission consider approval of Resolution 2011 -55 amending the
Fiscal Year 2010 -2011 Budget.
FISCAL IMPACT:
This agenda item only amends the budget and is for reporting purposes only it does not have an impact on
actual revenues or expenditures.
COMMUNICATION EFFORTS:
This Agenda Item has been electronically forwarded to the Mayor and City Commission, City Manager,
City Attorney /Staff, and is available on the City's Website, LaserFiche, and the City's Server. Additionally,
portions of this Agenda Item are typed verbatim on the respective Meeting Agenda which has also been
electronically forwarded to the individuals noted above, and which is also available on the City's Website,
LaserFiche, and the City's Server; has been sent to applicable City Staff, eAlert /eCitizen Recipients,
Media /Press Representatives who have requested Agendas /Agenda Item information, Homeowner's
Associations/Representatives on file with the City, and all individuals who have requested such
information. This information has also been posted outside City Hall, posted inside City Hall with
additional copies available for the General Public, and posted at five (5) different locations around the City.
Furthermore, this information is also available to any individual requestors. City Staff is always willing to
discuss this Agenda Item or any Agenda Item with any interested individuals.
Additionally, within one week of approval the fiscal year 2010 -2011 final budget amendment will be placed
on the City's Website.
RECOMMENDATION:
The City Manager recommends the Commission approve Resolution 2011 -55 amending the Fiscal Year
2010 -2011 Budget.
No discussion.
CONSENT
202. Police Department
REQUEST:
The Police Department requests the City Commission to approve Resolution 2011 -58 to suspend on- street
parking regulations during the 2011 Holiday Season.
FISCAL IMPACT:
None.
COMMUNICATION EFFORTS:
This Agenda Item has been electronically forwarded to the Mayor and City Commission, City Manager,
City Attorney /Staff, and is available on the City's Website, LaserFiche, and the City's Server. Additionally,
portions of this Agenda Item are typed verbatim on the respective Meeting Agenda which has also been
electronically forwarded to the individuals noted above, and which is also available on the City's Website,
LaserFiche, and the City's Server; has been sent to applicable City Staff, eAlert /eCitizen Recipients,
Media/Press Representatives who have requested Agendas /Agenda Item information, Homeowner's
Associations/Representatives on file with the City, and all individuals who have requested such
information. This information has also been posted outside City Hall, posted inside City Hall with
additional copies available for the General Public, and posted at five (5) different locations around the City.
Furthermore, this information is also available to any individual requestors. City Staff is always willing to
discuss this Agenda Item or any Agenda Item with any interested individuals.
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RECOMMENDATION:
The Police Department recommends the Commission approve Resolution 2011 -58 to suspend on- street
parking regulations City -wide during the 2011 holiday season.
This Agenda Item was not discussed.
CONSENT
203. Office of the City Clerk
REQUEST:
Requesting the City Commission Approve the Wednesday, November 9, 2011 City Commission Attorney —
Client Session/Special Meeting Minutes.
FISCAL IMPACT:
There is no Fiscal Impact to this Agenda Item. At a later date, when the Court Reporter completes the
official Transcript of the closed portion of this Attorney - Client Session, the Court Reporter will send in an
Invoice for his /her services which typically can range from the hundreds of dollars on up, depending on
the length/complexity of the closed portion of the Attorney- Client Session the Court Reporter attended.
When that Invoice is received, it will be paid for (typically) out of the Line Code
COMMUNICATION EFFORTS:
This Agenda Item has been electronically forwarded to the Mayor and City Commission, City Manager,
City Attorney /Staff, and is available on the City's Website, LaserFiche, and the City's Server. Additionally,
portions of this Agenda Item are typed verbatim on the respective Meeting Agenda which has also been
electronically forwarded to the individuals noted above, and which is also available on the City's Website,
LaserFiche, and the City's Server; has been sent to applicable City Staff, eAlert /eCitizen Recipients,
Media/Press Representatives who have requested Agendas /Agenda Item information, Homeowner's
Associations/Representatives on file with the City, and all individuals who have requested such
information. This information has also been posted outside City Hall, posted inside City Hall with
additional copies available for the General Public, and posted at five (5) different locations around the City.
Furthermore, this information is also available to any individual requestors. City Staff is always willing to
discuss this Agenda Item or any Agenda Item with any interested individuals.
RECOMMENDATION:
The City Commission is respectfully requested to Approve the Wednesday, November 9, 2011 City
Commission Attorney - Client Session/Special Meeting Minutes.
City Manager Kevin L. Smith commented, "An oversight on behalf of Staff, relative to item 203, your Agenda
Item is accurate and correct. The Agenda however under `Fiscal Impact' references the funding source for the
payment of the bill. That funding source was left blank accidentally in the Agenda itself. It should just read from
the Legal Line Code. Our apologies."
CONSENT
204. Office of the City Clerk
REQUEST:
Requesting the City Commission Approve the Monday, November 14, 2011 City Commission Regular
Meeting Minutes.
FISCAL IMPACT:
There is no Fiscal Impact to this Agenda Item.
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COMMUNICATION EFFORTS:
This Agenda Item has been electronically forwarded to the Mayor and City Commission, City Manager,
City Attorney /Staff, and is available on the City's Website, LaserFiche, and the City's Server. Additionally,
portions of this Agenda Item are typed verbatim on the respective Meeting Agenda which has also been
electronically forwarded to the individuals noted above, and which is also available on the City's Website,
LaserFiche, and the City's Server; has been sent to applicable City Staff, eAlert /eCitizen Recipients,
Media/Press Representatives who have requested Agendas /Agenda Item information, Homeowner's
Associations/Representatives on file with the City, and all individuals who have requested such
information. This information has also been posted outside City Hall, posted inside City Hall with
additional copies available for the General Public, and posted at five (5) different locations around the City.
Furthermore, this information is also available to any individual requestors. City Staff is always willing to
discuss this Agenda Item or any Agenda Item with any interested individuals.
RECOMMENDATION:
The City Commission is respectfully requested to Approve the Monday, November 14, 2011 City
Commission Regular Meeting Minutes.
There was no discussion on this Agenda Item.
"MOTION TO APPROVE CONSENT (AGENDA)." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BROWN.
SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR HOVEY. DISCUSSION.
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH NO OBJECTIONS.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER RESNICK: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER BONNER: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR HOVEY: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
AWARDS AND PRESENTATIONS
AWARDS AND PRESENTATIONS
300. Not Used
REPORTS
REPORTS
400. Office Of The City Attorney — Anthony A. Garganese, Esquire
City Attorney Anthony A. Garganese reference the Atlantic Housing Partners, LLLP Settlement, and that the
Florida Housing Finance Corporation "Will be considering the transfer of Tax Credit request at its meeting, I
believe it's December 6 (2011) coming up and I'm going to forward some information to you all. The local
representative for Florida Housing Finance Corporation, so you all may want to make a contact there, I believe
it's Mary Demetree from Winter Park but I will forward the information to you."
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REPORTS
401. Office Of The City Manager — Kevin L. Smith
Manager Smith remarked, "First and foremost, as you all are already aware, but just to publicly let everyone in
the audience and those listening on the internet - congratulate Chief (Kevin) Brunelle (Police Department), his
entire team, and the entire City, for their Re- Accreditation that was just awarded - for a three (3) year period. So,
if I could just impose upon everyone for a round of applause. It's a great accomplishment. It goes to the Chief's
leadership and his entire team."
Next, Manager Smith asked that Mr. Randy Stevenson, ASLA, AICP, Director, Community Development
Department introduce his new Planner.
Mr. Stevenson introduced Mr. Randy Woodruff, AICP, Senior Planner, Community Development Department to
the Mayor and City Commission and those in attendance.
Lastly, Manager Smith commented on the City's Newsletter to the City Commission and stated, "For a variety of
reasons in the past, before our Newsletter went out, it was asked or directed that that be reviewed by this body
prior to it going out and if you all may recall, there were some reasons behind that. Now that we're going to a
monthly Newsletter what I would humbly ask is that the Commission consider maybe allowing for a Staff
approval of that or if you all would like to continue to see it, just from a turn- around standpoint, we'll be certainly
happy to accommodate that. But, again, now that we're doing a monthly Newsletter, just to meet the deadlines
that if you all would entrust me with that editing duty I will certainly not let you down."
Commissioner Gary Bonner said, "I am certainly comfortable with that. If at all possible, I would appreciate the
opportunity for an advance copy." Manager Smith responded, "Absolutely." Mayor Lacey added, "Likewise."
Commissioner Resnick also agreed.
Mayor Lacey then asked the City Commission, "Is there objection to the Manager taking direction to have
authority to issue the monthly Newsletter ?" Deputy Mayor Hovey, and Commissioner Bonner commented, "No
objection."
REPORTS
402. Office Of The City Clerk — Andrea Lorenzo - Luaces, MMC
City Clerk Andrea Lorenzo - Luaces mentioned that the Deputy Mayor Nomination Agenda Item would be on the
December 12, 2011 City Commission Regular Meeting Agenda.
REPORTS
403. Office Of Commissioner Seat One/Deputy Mayor — The Honorable Jean Hovey
Deputy Mayor Hovey asked if anyone was planning to attend a Department of Transportation meeting on
December 6 2011 that will deal with State Road 419, State Road 434 and State Road 426 and asked if anyone
else was planning to attend.
It was noted that Mr. Brian Fields, P.E., City Engineer, Public Works Department would also be attending. No
one else mentioned they would also be there.
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Next, Deputy Mayor Hovey said she attended a recent meeting of the Seminole County Public Schools School
Board and pointed out that Dr. Tina Calderone is the new Chairman and Ms. Karen Almond is the new Vice
Chair. Deputy Mayor Hovey added that at this same Seminole County Public Schools School Board meeting,
Winter Springs' Elementary Schools are on the list for closure.
Discussion followed on attendance thresholds; that a decision might be made in January 2012; what the source of
this information was; and previous comments to the contrary made by Dr. Bill Vogel at a meeting that
Commissioner Rick Brown had recently attended.
Deputy Mayor Hovey then suggested that residents should contact their Seminole County Public Schools Board
Member(s) if they are opposed to any possible Winter Springs schools closing.
REPORTS
404. Office Of Commissioner Seat Two — The Honorable Rick Brown
No Report.
REPORTS
405. Office Of Commissioner Seat Three — The Honorable Gary Bonner
Commissioner Bonner spoke of his rescheduling to be here tonight.
Next, Commissioner Bonner commented about the intersection of Seneca Boulevard and Northern Way and asked
that Mr. Fields asked him to explain what they were working on.
Mr. Fields explained they were working on a valley gutter replacement at the intersection of Seneca Boulevard
and Vistawilla Drive, and that this will be the first of others throughout the City. It was explained that this small
project was estimated to take about two (2) weeks and that information was available on the City's Website.
REPORTS
406. Office Of Commissioner Seat Four — The Honorable Cade Resnick
No Report.
REPORTS
407. Office Of Commissioner Seat Five — The Honorable Joanne M. Krebs
Absent.
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REPORTS
408. Office Of The Mayor — The Honorable Charles Lacey
Mayor Lacey noted that he had attended a few SunRail meetings lately and suggested that if the City Commission
had any input, to please get with him on this.
Next, Mayor Lacey commented on a restructuring of the Mayors and Managers Group and noted, "The hope is to
make it a more functional body that is a better facilitator of intra - municipality type of issues."
Mayor Lacey also mentioned that the Mayors and Managers Group had discussed the viability of the Council of
Local Governments in Seminole County (CALNO) and the basic consensus was that there were other local
organizations that handled the same matters that the Council of Local Governments in Seminole County
(CALNO) did; and that the various members of the Mayors and Managers Group were considering looking into
the possibility that of disbanding the Council of Local Governments in Seminole County (CALNO). Continuing,
Mayor Lacey inquired of the City Commission, "Is there any dissenting point of view on that from the
Commission that I should be taking into account ?"
Mayor Lacey then spoke briefly of the December Council of Local Governments in Seminole County (CALNO)
meeting that the City of Winter Springs is hosting, which will be on Wednesday, December 7, 2011 at 7:00 p.m.,
here at City Hall.
Furthermore, Mayor Lacey noted that he would keep them updated on this issue, and asked the City Commission
to provide him with any comments they may have. Further comments.
Discussion followed on whether Seminole County Public Schools School Board and Seminole State College are
still a part of the Mayors and Managers Group, and some concerns that the Mayors and Managers Group has had
with Seminole County Public Schools. Mayor Lacey mentioned that this is still being worked through with the
reorganization of the Mayors and Managers Group.
Commissioner Resnick then asked about the dissolution of the Council of Local Governments in Seminole
County (CALNO), to which Mayor Lacey explained, "It would be a disbandment. How that would actually
happen, it may be that it just completely disbands or maybe that just each municipality withdraws but Winter
Springs would not withdraw unless it was a Consensus of everyone to withdraw."
Mayor Lacey then commented on how the Oviedo - Winter Springs Regional Chamber of Commerce seems to be
lined up more with Oviedo than Winter Springs and noted that on the Board of eighteen (18) members, eleven
(11) are Oviedo representatives, two (2) Winter Springs representatives, and the others could be considered
neutral. Mayor Lacey added, "I think we're losing out on Winter Springs representation there and I think that is a
symptom of the problem. The major problem being more that there is not enough Winter Springs business
participation in the Chamber. So, I think that is the solution to it. Mayor Lacey mentioned that he had asked the
Executive Director to have his Sales Staff try to involve more Winter Springs businesses.
Commissioner Resnick noted that the Oviedo - Winter Springs Regional Chamber of Commerce had an open call
for four (4) new Board members and that all four (4) applicants were from Oviedo. Commissioner Resnick also
mentioned that potential business owners he had spoken to wondered about the benefits of joining the Oviedo -
Winter Springs Regional Chamber of Commerce members.
Mayor Lacey noted that it would be very helpful for Oviedo - Winter Springs Regional Chamber of Commerce
Sales Staff to help with getting Winter Springs businesses to participate.
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Commissioner Bonner remarked, "Back to our Newsletter, since we are an (Oviedo - Winter Springs Regional
Chamber of Commerce) Trustee member, would it be appropriate for us to include some sort of reference or note
over to the Chamber's need for Winter Springs' diversification. Maybe that might reach an audience that is not
currently being reached by the Chamber's efforts." Commissioner Bonner added, "Just bring it to the attention
that there is a desire by the Chamber to expand its Winter Springs representation. Some supportive but not
necessarily overt — we are not selling on their behalf, we are just bringing the information to the awareness of the
community."
Mayor Lacey suggested, "Commissioner Resnick, would you do that ?"
Lastly, Mayor Lacey commented on "Light up UCF (University of Central Florida)" which is being held in early
December and to let the City Clerk know if anyone wants to participate; and then Mayor Lacey would ask for
armbands for those who would like to attend.
• • AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING ADDITIONAL REPORT WAS DISCUSSED
NEXT, AS DOCUMENTED. •:••
REPORTS
REPORTS
403. Office Of Commissioner Seat One/Deputy Mayor — The Honorable Jean Hovey
Deputy Mayor Hovey asked Chief Brunelle about noise complaints at The Kee Wee Entertainment District. Chief
Brunelle added, "We're still trying to deal with it as best we can." Deputy Mayor Hovey asked that Captain Chris
Deisler, Police Department be thanked for his assistance.
Further remarks ensued about the "Light up UCF (University of Central Florida)" and the date of Friday,
December 9 2011 was confirmed; and that this event would begin at 7:30 p.m.
PUBLIC INPUT
No one spoke at this time.
PUBLIC HEARINGS AGENDA
PUBLIC HEARINGS
500.1. Community Development Department - Planning Division
REQUEST:
The Community Development Department - Planning Division requests the City Commission considers
approval of a Final Engineering Plan for an 8,000 square foot Family Dollar store located on the north side
of State Road 434, between Fairfax Avenue and Devon Avenue.
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FISCAL IMPACT:
The potential tax revenue of the proposed project is estimated as follows: 8,000 Square foot Family Dollar
Store assessed at approximately $1,000,000 $1,000,000 /1000 = $1,000.00 $1,000 x (2.5814) = $2,581.40
$25,091.21 (less the 4% statutory discount) = $2,478.14 tax revenue City of Winter Springs taxes paid on
vacant land now (data obtained from Seminole County Property Appraiser): $2,276
Total Potential Ad Valorem Tax Revenue: $4,754.14
COMMUNICATION EFFORTS:
This Agenda Item has been electronically forwarded to the Mayor and City Commission, City Manager,
City Attorney /Staff, and is available on the City's Website, LaserFiche, and the City's Server. Additionally,
portions of this Agenda Item are typed verbatim on the respective Meeting Agenda which has also been
electronically forwarded to the individuals noted above, and which is also available on the City's Website,
LaserFiche, and the City's Server; has been sent to applicable City Staff, eAlert /eCitizen Recipients,
Media /Press Representatives who have requested Agendas /Agenda Item information, Homeowner's
Associations /Representatives on file with the City, and all individuals who have requested such
information. This information has also been posted outside City Hall, posted inside City Hall with
additional copies available for the General Public, and posted at five (5) different locations around the City.
Furthermore, this information is also available to any individual requestors. City Staff is always willing to
discuss this Agenda Item or any Agenda Item with any interested individuals.
The property has been posted with a standard yellow sign announcing the action being considered and
giving information relative to the meeting place and time.
RECOMMENDATION:
Staff and the Planning & Zoning Board recommend the City Commission approve the Final Engineering
Plan for Family Dollar.
Mr. Bobby Howell, AICP, Planner, Community Development Department reviewed some of the basics of this
Agenda Item and project with the City Commission.
Mayor Lacey opened the `Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
Mr. Richard Grogan, 1 North Fairfax Avenue, Winter Springs, Florida: addressed the City Commission and
noted he was not opposed to this project but said they had always been public parking on the Fairfax Avenue side
of the property under discussion; and that he heard that the parking was going away with this new project. Mr.
Grogan noted that he thought that the change in parking would impact his business and asked for some kind of
compromise that the parking he has been used to, would stay the same.
Mr. Stevenson spoke on the Code in terms of parking, and neighbor issues and joint uses.
With further comments, Mr. Grogan suggested, "Could there be indented parallel parking put there, the same as
you have in the Town Center ?"
Mr. Stevenson added, "Based upon the overlay, if the parking were left in its current configuration, it encroaches
into that — probably a foot, eight inches (8 ") to a foot." Mr. Grogan asked if a compromise could be reached,
especially for such a small distance.
Mr. Stevenson then noted, "That's the parking as it exists. There probably is enough physical room there to put in
parallel parking as Mr. Grogan has stated; but again, I do draw you back to your section of the Code that prohibits
parking, whether it's parallel, or ninety degrees, or angle parking and it is in the right -of -way. It would have to be
a situation of a) it's a Waiver from your Code; b) who pays to install it; and c) who maintains it."
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Commissioner Rick Brown asked "That we get creative and figure out a solution to this."
With further comments, Mr. Fields noted, "The existing parking encroaches into the property by approximately
one foot (1'). The sidewalk is in the right -of -way for five foot (5') so the existing parking would encroach over
the full width of the sidewalk plus another foot into the property; so you could not do angle or head in parking
with the sidewalk. You could do three (3), maybe four (4) parallel parking spaces here."
Mr. Grogan then stated, "I don't want Family Dollar to change their plans whatsoever. I'm not here about that.
I'm here about this parking. But the fact that you're going to put in a five foot (5') sidewalk, that there is not a
single one on my side of town. Why ?"
Discussion.
Mr. Jay R. Jackson, P.E., Senior Vice President /Principal, Kimley -Horn and Associates, Inc., 3660 Maguire
Boulevard, Suite 200, Orlando, Florida: as the Civil Engineer on this project, Mr. Jackson stated, "The pond has
actually got a little bit of a berm; it is up about a foot and a half. It grades over flat to the sidewalk and then from
the sidewalk, grades down to Fairfax (Avenue); so, there's about a foot slope from the sidewalk to Fairfax
(Avenue) now. If it was simple, just cutting the existing pavement, putting a sidewalk in, I don't think my client
would have any issues with it. But what it's going to entail is actually removing the asphalt that's there, and then
putting new asphalt in and its going to have a foot slope across it in eight feet (8'). I don't think it's very desirable
from a parking standpoint if you're parallel parking, so there would be some considerable changes that would
have to occur to the Site Plan to get that parking back in."
Mr. Grogan remarked, "Sixteen (16) years I've worked over there and when I bought that building I was told that
stays there, the City put it there. And it's not in their property and I just want to come to a compromise please."
Mr. Kip Lockcuff, P.E., Director, Public Works/Utility Departments explained, "There were no representations
that the parking would stay. Actually, the City didn't put that in. It was in prior to the City buying the property in
1984. My office was there from 1991 to 1993. We sold it to Richard (Grogan) in 1995 but - that's the old North
Orlando Company office from late [19]70's, early [19]80's. So, they put all that in. It was used as City Hall, not
owned as City Hall, but used as City Hall, late [19170's, early [19]80's. But we got the building in 1984 when we
bought the Utility company. So, we ran the Utility billing office out of there from 1984 to 1993, sold it in 1995;
but there was no representations in the Warranty, the Appraisal. I wrote the Bid ad. Nothing."
Further comments followed.
Mayor Lacey inquired of Mr. Grogan, "Are you finding that your customers are actually using those parking spots
now ?" Mr. Grogan responded, "Yes."
Discussion continued.
Mr. Fields explained, "Here is how we looked at it in Staff review from a technical standpoint. We saw twenty -
five (25) new parking spaces going in that meets standards, that are on this property. Those parking spaces will
not be restricted in any way. The idea and this Code is written with the intent that somebody comes and parks
here, goes to Family Dollar, maybe walks across to the convenience store and gets a drink and walks over here
and gets a haircut. They can park over here, get a haircut, walk over to Family Dollar afterwards. It's shared
parking - is the goal of this. So, I think we're adding a lot more parking to this area that does not exist today. I
don't believe that creating three (3), maybe four (4) parallel parking spaces in an area that just doesn't have
parallel parking today would be a solution here. I believe there's adequate parking to approve for all the
businesses with this plan."
Mr. Grogan mentioned cooperation; problems he has had with another nearby center not wanting him to use their
parking; and ingress and egress.
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Commissioner Resnick asked, "Was there something within the agreement, for an agreement that we keep that -
maybe we can make a formal agreement to make a partnership for you and for the businesses around you ?" Mr.
Fields said, "There's currently no Developer's Agreement with this project because there are no Code exceptions.
The Applicant has indicated they have no intentions to restrict or prohibit parking. I think they realize that it
helps their business to have that cooperation. Understand it's not happening everywhere around here now but it
will happen with this project."
Manager Smith asked about guarantees that we could incorporate, to assist Mr. Grogan. Mayor Lacey added that
a future possible change of ownership should also be considered with any guarantees for Mr. Grogan.
Mr. Chuck Borysiak, Development Project Manager, The Hutton Company, 736 Cherry Street,
Chattanooga, Tennessee: addressed the City Commission and stated, "We're developing those for Family Dollar
and then we'll be selling the land back to them — the Code requires that there is cross parking. They're aware of
that but - they have not agreed to encumber the property with anything additional to that, like a Parking Easement
or anything like that. That would have had to have happened a year ago when we first started looking at the
property." Mr. Borysiak added, "They're happy to do everything as required by Code, as far as cross access."
Commissioner Bonner clarified, "The Code encourages but does not require." Commissioner Bonner continued,
"And Family Dollar is willing to comply with the Code; but what I hear is if there were a Developer's Agreement
requirement to support the Code in that manner, and not object to that cross parking, that could be a problem in
the deal with Family Dollar, between you as the Developer and them as your client. Am I hearing that right ?"
Mr. Borysiak said, "I think so, but again, we're kind of at a late stage here. We're supposed to pull Permits and
start construction in about a month on this project. So, again, that may have been something that they would have
entertained but tonight, I can't certainly commit Family Dollar to that; but yes, I mean that's the intent. They
understand these spaces are here and they understand that the Code requires cross parking for all neighbors just as
it was explained."
Discussion continued on notifications; and that Mr. Grogan does not use the Internet, but he saw the sign
advertising the Meeting.
Tape 1 /Side B
With discussion, Commissioner Bonner thanked Mr. Grogan for his service.
Deputy Mayor Hovey commented on parking demands at the convenience store and noted, "I could see this
parking at Family Dollar being full during the time that Richard (Grogan) has his business open. So, I think we
need to see what we can do to work out the parking situation for Mr. Grogan."
Commissioner Resnick commented, "I think before we make any absolute final deals here, we should absolutely
follow what Commissioner Bonner said, look at every angle." Continuing, Commissioner Resnick remarked
about a suggested four (4) or five (5) parking spots that were discussed for Mr. Grogan's business, the
convenience store, and asked, "What are the benefits and if we have a large parking lot here available to us with
an 8,000 square foot but no actual agreement as to who can park on that later on, if this convenience store is
taking up too many spots, this company may not be as convenient at the time or as nice to us."
Discussion followed on whether this new project might impact Mr. Grogan's business.
Commissioner Brown suggested that a statement from Family Dollar related to parking would be helpful.
With further comments, Mayor Lacey said, "It looks like we are searching for some way to get a guarantee — or
something less than a guarantee, but something that Mr. Grogan can rely upon in the future that will give him
access to those parking spots."
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Mr. Stevenson noted, "Not being totally aware of the impact on the engineering, there is physical room for
approximately three (3) parallel spaces in the right of way there." Additionally, Mr. Stevenson said, "We need to
deal with the Code issue there where we have a prohibition of parking in the right -of way. That's when we came
up with that; that's when as Kevin (Smith) explained, we felt that the cross access or the - joint use of parking
would help address Mr. Grogan's situation at that point in time.
And again, also it may behoove Staff to talk to some of the neighbors, i.e., the Center to the east to talk about this
joint use of parking as well. Again, the Code language just encourages it at this point. The prohibition against
parking in the right -of way is specific though and we would have to address that issue. That might open up an
opportunity for us to work on something that would help Mr. Grogan. Again, with this piece of property - it is a
Permitted Use and because they have met all of their Code requirements, there is no Development Agreement for
the property."
Further comments.
Mr. Borysiak said, "I can go to them and ask for them for a letter in writing or something that says, `Understand
what the Code says, and they're not going to restrict the parking from the neighbors'; and the second thing that
we're talking about is relieving us of the sidewalk requirement and then possibly being able to work around the
existing concrete pad that's there would be - another possible solution, because the sidewalk is really what's in the
way of the existing concrete pad. So, those are two (2) ideas that we had."
Commissioner Bonner said to Mr. Grogan, "If your customers could park in the new spaces as proposed in this
engineering at Family Dollar, just as it is drawn up and presented tonight, and you had a guarantee that you could
rely on, that your customers would be able to do so, would that satisfy your..." Mr. Grogan said, "...I don't think
you can deliver. You can't guarantee that I can park there — as we mentioned earlier, they may sell the business to
someone else."
With further discussion, Mr. Grogan added, "Right now, there's approximately six (6) spaces, seven (7) spaces.
I'm willing to go to three (3). Just don't want it to go away."
Commissioner Bonner summarized, "So, your desired outcome, just to be clear, would be the parallel parking
solution. That would be your desired outcome as opposed to an assurance that your clients could park in the
Family Dollar parking lot..." Mr. Grogan remarked, "...Only because I've already been told by other entities on
the other side."
Continuing, Commissioner Bonner asked Attorney Garganese about the Code and stated, "Would the Applicant
or any other business that is operating under that Code, do they have the right to deny neighbor parking? Does
the Code give them the right to practice property rights? And even though the Code states that there should be
neighbor parking, does the property owner have the right to deny parking if they deem that it is necessary to do
so ?" Further comments.
Attorney Garganese responded about the Code and noted that it says, "Encourages coordinated joint use of
parking. It's not a requirement under the Code." Attorney Garganese added that "Under this scenario, even if we
had a Code provision, I would question whether we could impose as a City, parking for Mr. Grogan's business. "
Mr. Fields stated, "One of the things they are required to do by Code is to dedicate Cross Access Easement which
legally allows access through the site for cross access. One potential solution would be to have within that Cross
Access Easement dedication an equal number of parking spaces could be part of that dedicated for — some
language for cross access use, so they could not be restricted. That would be one (1) option if it's agreeable to the
owner.
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The engineering solution to do the parallel parking spaces would likely require a retaining wall due to the grading.
That's there. So it's doable but the question would come up, if the Commission wanted to see that as far as who
would be responsible for implementing that. A small retaining wall - I want to emphasize this engineering is
doable with a retaining wall between this driveway and likely this area here, just to provide some relief from the
grading so we don't have too severe a slope."
Discussion continued.
Deputy Mayor Hovey asked Mr. Grogan, "Have you ever had an agreement to use that property ?"
Mr. Grogan responded by saying, "Verbal. Not written." Mr. Grogan then explained the verbal agreement was
with "I believe it was Dan Wood owned that property — and he was here to put a gas station, convenience store, a
new place; and he was here at the time when you made the Ordinance that you couldn't have two (2) gas stations
next to each other. So, I met him and talked to him extensively at that time. He told me I could park over there
all I wanted."
Referencing the Site Plan, Mr. Fields stated, "We could build at least three (3), probably four (4) parallel parking
spaces here. They're obligated to build the sidewalk. If we wanted to build a retaining wall and the parallel
parking spaces which would benefit others and be available for public parking, that we could have an arrangement
where they design, build that, and that cost be reimbursed by the City."
Manager Smith asked Mr. Fields what the approximate cost of that would be. Mr. Fields stated, "Retaining wall,
parking probably in the range of fifteen thousand dollars ($15,000.00). This project will generate approximately
twenty -five thousand dollars ($25,000.00) of Transportation Impact Fees."
Commissioner Bonner said to Mr. Fields, If the City were to create some Town Center -esque parallel parking
places there, that would benefit all of the businesses because - anyone who parked there could visit any of the
businesses, depending on their need."
Mayor Lacey suggested that the "Cross access requirements be expanded to somehow grant parking rights in
there" be further considered.
Discussion followed on public parking.
Attorney Garganese noted, "There is a parking aspect in the right -of -way that's been in existence for a period of
time, so the question for the Commission is, `Do you want that parking area to go away, because it's in the right -
of -way and that issue is controlled by the City Commission. If you don't want the parking to go away and you to
preserve it somehow, then that impacts the Developer's Application because they're asking for a development
proposal that's going to eliminate de facto public parking on City right -of -way. So, how is that going to be
addressed to the Commission's satisfaction, assuming the Commission wants to maintain some parking on the
public right -of -way. That is how I see the issue from a legal perspective."
With further comments, Attorney Garganese pointed out, "They're asking to impact the City rights -of -way. It's
not the other way around. It's their proposal that's impacting the City's rights -of -way. So, how it gets addressed
to the Commission's satisfaction needs to be flushed out."
Mr. Stevenson added, "Along those lines, part of your consideration must be that, part of their development plans,
their engineering plans are constructed within the right -of -way because they need to put in public sidewalks. So,
they're already constructing within the right -of- way."
Mr. Borysiak remarked, "I understand his point; and we're happy to work within our property line. I mean if you
want us just to go to our property line and stop our construction there, and everything in the right -of -way stays the
City's responsibility, that's fine with us also. We're happy to work within our property and stay out of the City's
right -of- way."
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Manager Smith noted, "The benefits that the City gets is they put in sidewalks." Mr. Stevenson added, "It's in
our Code."
Discussion.
Chief Brunelle was asked for his comments and stated, "The curbing and the only other concern I would have
there is where the doors are going to open into the lane of traffic." Chief Brunelle added, "I think if it is done
right, it would work." Furthermore, Chief Brunelle noted, "Those would be my primary concerns — the egress
and the exits."
Manager Smith suggested, "Engineer the site, whatever needs to be done to allow for a sidewalk to run
southbound from the top of the screen, down to the current parking area; re- engineer that parking area to become
parallel spaces and then continue the sidewalk below that then to connect with the sidewalk at the bottom section
of the property on (State Road) 434." Mr. Stevenson added, "I think we can probably accommodate that, if we
can re- engineer around that and stripe that. We'll have removed that eight inches (8 ") of whatever that actually
overlaps on their property but by going parallel parking, we don't need that complete width there."
Manager Smith then said to Mr. Stevenson, "Am I understanding that the Applicant is agreeable to what we've
been discussing ?" Mr. Stevenson nodded in agreement.
Further comments followed on parking and costs.
Tape 2 /Side A
Discussion.
Mayor Lacey closed the "Public Input " portion of the Agenda Item.
Mr. Stevenson summarized the discussion and said, "What happens is that the sidewalk starts here, continues
down to the existing slab, utilizes the existing slab, less a portion that will be saw cut off of the applicant's
property; picks up on the south side on that slab and goes as the engineering plans currently have it and ties into
the sidewalk on (State Road) 434. There's a small retaining wall to help us with the grading right here for the
applicant's property.
They do not have to build this portion of sidewalk and hopefully when they have their painter's out there they'll
come in and they'll put a line here for the sidewalk and three (3) or four (4) however many spaces we wind up
with, they'll line those all for us. So, we've got the parking, the continuous sidewalk, the small retaining wall to
help with the grading, parking remains there. And again, what staff needed was your acquiescence to allowing
the parking in the right -of- way."
"SO MOVED WITH THE CHANGES THAT WERE JUST REITERATED BY RANDY (STEVENSON)."
MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR HOVEY. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BROWN.
DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
DEPUTY MAYOR HOVEY: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER RESNICK: AYE
COMMISSIONER BONNER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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PUBLIC HEARINGS
500.2. Community Development Department - Planning Division
REQUEST:
Community Development Department - Planning Division requests the City Commission hold a Public
Hearing to consider the Aesthetic Review for Family Dollar, an 8,000 square foot retail building located on
the north side of State Road 434, between Fairfax Avenue and Devon Avenue.
FISCAL IMPACT:
The potential tax revenue of the proposed project is estimated as follows: 8,000 Square foot Family Dollar
Store assessed at approximately $1,000,000 $1,000,000 /1000 = $1,000.00 $1,000 x (2.5814) = $2,581.40
$25,091.21 (less the 4% statutory discount) = $2,478.14 tax revenue City of Winter Springs taxes paid on
vacant land now (data obtained from Seminole County Property Appraiser): $2,276
Total Potential Ad Valorem Tax Revenue: $4,754.14
COMMUNICATION EFFORTS:
This Agenda Item has been electronically forwarded to the Mayor and City Commission, City Manager,
City Attorney /Staff, and is available on the City s Website, LaserFiche, and the City s Server. Additionally,
portions of this Agenda Item are typed verbatim on the respective Meeting Agenda which has also been
electronically forwarded to the individuals noted above, and which is also available on the City s Website,
LaserFiche, and the City's Server; has been sent to applicable City Staff, eAlert/eCitizen Recipients,
Media /Press Representatives who have requested Agendas /Agenda Item information, Homeowner's
Associations/Representatives on file with the City, and all individuals who have requested such
information. This information has also been posted outside City Hall, posted inside City Hall with
additional copies available for the General Public, and posted at five (5) different locations around the City.
Furthermore, this information is also available to any individual requestors. City Staff is always willing to
discuss this Agenda Item or any Agenda Item with any interested individuals. The property has been
posted with a standard yellow sign announcing the action being considered and giving information relative
to the meeting place and time.
RECOMMENDATION:
Staff and the Planning and Zoning Board recommend the City Commission approve the Aesthetic Review
Plans for Family Dollar.
Mr. Howell presented this Agenda Item and showed PowerPoint slides.
Mayor Lacey opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
No one spoke.
Mayor Lacey closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
"MOTION TO APPROVE." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BROWN. SECONDED BY DEPUTY
MAYOR HOVEY. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BONNER: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR HOVEY: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER RESNICK: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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Deputy Mayor Hovey asked Mr. Fields, "It was brought up that on (State Road) 434, there is supposed to be cross
access between properties. As Mr. Grogan mentioned, the one the Atrium II building does not have cross access.
The one end is blocked. Is that against our Code ?"
Mr. Fields explained, "New developments - as new properties come in, they're required to make that dedication;
so, if they didn't have it before, I don't believe we have the means to go back and require that." Furthermore, Mr.
Fields added, "Unless they a Cross Access Easement, which is what would be required here, I believe they have
the ability to close their own private driveways at that point. An existing business that does not have a Cross
Access Easement — a private driveway, they could close it."
REGULAR AGENDA
REGULAR
600.
REQUEST:
Not Used
FISCAL IMPACT:
COMMUNICATION EFFORTS:
This Agenda Item has been electronically forwarded to the Mayor and City Commission, City Manager,
City Attorney /Staff, and is available on the City s Website, LaserFiche, and the City s Server. Additionally,
portions of this Agenda Item are typed verbatim on the respective Meeting Agenda which has also been
electronically forwarded to the individuals noted above, and which is also available on the City s Website,
LaserFiche, and the City's Server; has been sent to applicable City Staff, eAlert /eCitizen Recipients,
Media /Press Representatives who have requested Agendas /Agenda Item information, Homeowner's
Associations/Representatives on file with the City, and all individuals who have requested such
information. This information has also been posted outside City Hall, posted inside City Hall with
additional copies available for the General Public, and posted at five (5) different locations around the City.
Furthermore, this information is also available to any individual requestors. City Staff is always willing to
discuss this Agenda Item or any Agenda Item with any interested individuals.
RECOMMENDATION:
PUBLIC INPUT
No one addressed the Mayor and City Commission.
Mayor Lacey closed this Public Input portion.
In other City business, the Christmas Tree Lighting and Parade was mentioned as being scheduled for Saturday,
December 3' 2011 beginning at 5:00 p.m. at Keeth Elementary School.
Mayor Lacey said to Mr. Brian Dunigan, Recreation and Special Events Coordinator, Parks and Recreation
Department, "You'll have written instructions for all the Commissioners sometime this week ?" Mr. Dunigan
responded by saying, "Yes, that's correct - all the written instructions will be placed in your mailbox before the
end of the day Wednesday."
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Commissioner Resnick spoke again of the Seminole County Public Schools School Board and the recent Chair
change. Mayor Lacey stated, "My intent was to call Ms. Schaffner since she made the arrangements and ask her
what would be an appropriate politically in dealing with the School Board and express that I think it would be
appropriate for us to invite the new Chairwoman either to attend or make the presentation."
Commissioner Bonner mentioned he would not be able to attend this weekend's events and wished all a Merry
Christmas.
Lastly, Mayor Lacey noted that he would now pass out a Memorandum from the City Clerk related to Holiday
observance and it would be in the City's records.
ADJOURNMENT
Mayor Lacey adjourned the Regular Meeting at 6:54 p.m.
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NOTE: These Minutes were approved at the December 12, 2011 City Commission Regular Meeting.