HomeMy WebLinkAbout2011 07 20 Tuscawilla Lighting and Beautification District Advisory Board Regular Meeting MinutesCITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA
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CALL TO ORDER
The Regular Meeting of Wednesday, July 20, 2011 of the Tuscawilla Lighting and Beautification
District Advisory Committee was called to Order by Chairperson Mary Brook at 7:00 p.m. in the
Commission Chambers of the Municipal Building (City Hall, 1126 East State Road 434, Winter
Springs, Florida 32708).
Roll Call:
Chairperson Mary Brook, present
Vice Chairperson Helen Baker, present
Committee Member Luci Coker, present
Committee Member ponald Gilmore, present
Committee Member Carolyn Wolf, present
A moment of silence was followed by the Pledge of Allegiance.
INFORMATIONAL AGENDA
INFORMATIONAL
100. Not Used
CONSENT AGENDA
CONSENT
200. Office Of The City Clerk
Requesting Approval Of The April 20, 2011 Tuscawilla Lighting And Beautification
District Advisory Committee Regular Meeting Minutes.
"I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES (APRIL 20, 2011)." MOTION BY
ADVISORY MEMBER COKER. SECONDED BY VICE CHAIRPERSON BAKER.
DISCUSSION.
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VOTE:
CHAIRPERSON BROOK: AYE
VICE CHAIRPERSON BAKER: AYE
COMMITTEE MEMBER COKER: AYE
COMMITTEE MEMBER GILMORE: AYE
COMMITTEE MEMBER WOLF: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
CONSENT
201. Office Of The City Clerk
Requesting Approval Of The June 22, 2011 Tuscawilla Lighting And Beautification
District Advisory Committee Special Meeting Minutes.
"MOVE FOR APPROVAL (JUNE 22, 2011)." MOTION BY ADVISORY COMMITTEE
MEMBER GILMORE. SECONDED BY ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEMBER
COKER. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
VICE CHAIRPERSON BAKER: AYE
COMMITTEE MEMBER COKER: AYE
COMMITTEE MEMBER GILMORE: AYE
COMMITTEE MEMBER WOLF: AYE
CHAIRPERSON BROOK: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
AWARDS AND PRESENTATIONS
AWARDS AND PRESENTATIONS
300. Not Used
400. REPORTS
Advisory Committee Member ponald Gilmore stated that he is representing the Tuscawilla
Homeowners Association regarding that some Veterans felt that there was a need to have a
Monument by the flag poles as a dedication. Advisory Committee Member Gilmore showed a
sample Monument with a bronze plate which stated, "`Lest We Forget; This flag flies to honor
residents of Tuscawilla who have served America in Peace and in War, at Home and Overseas in
capacities both Civil and Military. The Tuscawilla Homeowners Association 2011."
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Continuing, Committee Member Gilmore noted that the Tuscawilla Homeowners Association is
proposing that this be placed right next to the flag pole at both locations. Advisory Committee
Member Gilmore added, "We would like the blessings of the TLBD[AC] (Tuscawilla Lighting
and Beautification District Advisory Committee) since it sits on TLBD (Tuscawilla Lighting and
Beautification District) managed property."
Discussion.
Mr. Steven Richart, Urban Beautification Services Division Manager, Community Development
Department stated, "The request is that if we could take a Vote tonight that we would endorse
taking it forward."
"I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE DO IT WITH THE IDEA THAT THE CITY
COMMISSIONERS CAN MAKE CHANGES IF THEY NEED TO." MOTION BY VICE
CHAIRPERSON BAKER. SECONDED BY ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEMBER
COKER. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMITTEE MEMBER COKER: AYE
CHAIRPERSON BROOK: AYE
VICE CHAIRPERSON BAKER: AYE
COMMITTEE MEMBER GILMORE: AYE
COMMITTEE MEMBER WOLF: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
PUBLIC INPUT
No one spoke.
REGULAR AGENDA
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600. Community Development Department — Urban Beautification Services Division
Discussion About Tuscawilla Unit 12/12A Wall And Proposed Tuscawilla Lighting And
Beautification District Phase 3.
Chairperson Brook stated, "I talked with Kevin Smith, City Manager after our last meeting and
asked him to come — and he is here to discuss the Unit 12/12A Wall."
Continuing, Chairperson Brook added, "My understanding is that they are not asking us to
approve the Wall one way or another; what they are asking us to do, if the Wall goes forward
that we will allow it to be financed through and handled through the TLBD (Tuscawilla Lighting
And Beautification District). Just like the lights are, there will be a separate Phase for that."
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Chairperson Brook then introduced City Manager Kevin L. Smith.
Manager Smith commented, "I would respectfully ask the board to entertain the Agenda Item
through Staff and once that is completed, I will be happy to answer any questions and give you
any comments that I may have."
Mr. Richart remarked, "What I would like to do is a quick review — and recap what we talked
about last time. I have given you a sheet about the Wall, Unit 12/12A to follow along."
Mr. Richart noted, "What we have is a community of ninety (90) homes within a wall area.
Originally, this area was supposed to have a Homeowners Association. As you all know, the
HOA (Homeowners Association) is the vehicle where a community can collect Assessments and
take care of the common elements. Apparently, in this particular section of homes, the
Developer went under — and did not get to the part where he actually set up the HOA
(Homeowners Association)."
Continuing, Mr. Richart added, "The Wall has been there — about twenty-six (26) years and it
has gone unmaintained — there have been no repairs. There is an issue now because the wall is
essentially falling apart. The wall is located on private property. The Developer did record with
the County and the City a ten foot (10') Easement. That Easement is a Utility Landscape
Easement. As many of you have seen, the wall is falling apart; it is a safety issue. The reason
the TLBD[AC] (Tuscawilla Lighting and Beautification District Advisory Committee) is hearing
about this, is because there have been some residents that have asked, `What can we do about
this Wall'."
Next, Mr. Richart stated, "What I would like to do now for everybody's benefit — I would like to
show you a presentation that Gary (Brook) did and I want to thank you Gary (Brook) for taking
the time to do this; that will actually show you how grave the situation is for this Wall. Mr.
Richart added, "This is not something that the City or this Board is bringing forward to the
Community, we are just facilitating the issue and trying to help figure it out."
Discussion ensued.
After a presentation of photographs, Mr. Richart explained the Options available, and stated,
"Option number one (1), each homeowner pays to repair their own section. What that could
mean is a`Called Code Enforcement' for a resident address to say `There is a public safety issue,
the homeowner is not maintaining their wall and it is going to fall down'. That could cost from
five hundred dollars ($500.00) to twenty thousand dollars ($20,000.00) per homeowner,
depending on where they are along the Wall."
Mr. Richart noted, "The other problem with each homeowner doing their own thing on their
own, if they did anything, is repairs will not be consistent. Option number two (2), the
community may say `We want to start an HOA (Homeowners Association)'."
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Continuing, Mr. Richart explained, "Option number three (3) is, if everybody would agree and
the community wanted to go that direction the TLBD (Tuscawilla Lighting And Beautification
District) could do a Phase 3 Assessment Program. There is a lot of benefit to that because one
(1), it is already in place. It would only affect those ninety (90) homes. In other words, all the
other areas in Tuscawilla — Assessment would not change, it would just be for those ninety (90)
homes; there would just be another Phase that would come in. We are already set up to collect
those Assessments through the Tax Bill."
With further discussion, Mr. Richart stated, "The last Option, do nothing. The Wall will continue
to fail." Mr. Richart added, "We did some initial research. We got a proposal to repair the Wall
and what the cost comes in at is about one hundred thirty thousand dollars ($130,000.00). That
would be a three (3) tiered Assessment if we do it. It would be two hundred [dollars] ($200.00)
to three hundred [dollars] ($300.00) a year per homeowner depending on where you are located
along this wall. If you are close to the wall you would pay more. That would be like a twenty
(20) year financing at five percent (5%) over those ninety (90) units; so, you would have a
Maintenance component and a Capital component."
Continuing, Mr. Richart commented, "If you replace the Wall completely, six hundred and thirty
[thousand dollars] ($630,000.00) to seven hundred thousand dollars ($700,000.00). That is about
five [hundred] seventy-five [dollars] ($575.00) to seven [hundred] twenty-five [dollars]
($725.00) a year which is probably not affordable, but the Option is there."
Mr. Richart then noted, "The last page of this pamphlet is a breakdown of the estimates I did and
it is what I have been working from. It shows you all the costs that are loaded in. Obviously, you
would have a permanent Maintenance component to this. When you fix the wall you are going
to want to maintain it. The Phase 3, if it happens, would not go away; there would always be a
Maintenance component from now on but the Loan would drop off. Once the Loan drops off,
the Debt is gone. You would have about one hundred twenty dollars ($120.00) Maintenance
component to that Wall, per year, for that group."
Furthermore, Mr. Richart added, "My thought on this is that we need to do more research and
probably come back to this board with more information. Hopefully some residents in the
community would step forward and express some interest in the project."
Manager Smith commented, "First of all, thanks Steven (Richart) for what I thought was an
excellent presentation. Very thorough as always which I believe you all know and expect from
Steven (Richart)."
Next, Manager Smith remarked, "My personal opinion is, this is an important enough issue both
from a helping our citizens aspect and a public safety aspect, that I would ask the board to
strongly consider, not so much just approving moving forward with the recommendation to do
the project. I think one key component that we need to do is engage our citizens through Straw
Ballots that we have utilized in the past and engage their interest."
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Mr. Smith then stated, "So, I would think that an appropriate course of action that I would
recommend to this board, is to refer this item to the City Commission, that you all feel that it is
an important enough issue that the Commission direct Staff to do whatever research, in addition
to what we have done and again in a very thorough manner; and then engage the citizens in that
affected area to see what their thoughts are, maybe again through a Straw Ballot, `Are you in
favor of this and the resulting cost' or `Are you not in favor of it'. I think you would all agree
with me that none of us want to put another tax burden on our residents but if they are inclined or
so desiring that, then certainly we would like to come and facilitate and help them."
Further discussion ensued regarding what would happen should the Wall fall down before repairs
can be done and who would be responsible, should this happen.
Manager Smith further noted, "The challenges are many, as Steven (Richart) articulated but the
solutions are few. But I think that as Steven [Richart] has articulated and I believe Option
number three (3) a reasonable approach to solving this problem subject to, again, engaging the
interest of our residents which I believe is most important."
Advisory Committee Member Gilmore inquired, "What would you want from us, Kevin
(Smith)?"
Manager Smith replied, "That the recommendation that I would make to you all is, that you feel
that this is an important enough issue, based on the report from Staff to warrant affording this
Item to the City Commission with your request that they review this issue, receive the
information from Staff, and survey the affected residents in the area to gauge whether or not they
would be of the mindset to bear the cost under one of these scenarios to repair the Wall."
Vice Chairperson Baker commented, "I think that is perfect. Can you recite that all again in a
Motion?"
Manager Smith stated, "It would be appropriate if someone is of the mindset to make that
Motion just to articulate to the Clerk that you would like to make a Motion consistent to what the
City Manager just said."
"I MAKE A MOTION THAT YOU INVESTIGATE WITH THE LEGAL
DEPARTMENT IN THE CITY AND THE RESIDENTS AS WELL." MOTION BY VICE
CHAIRPERSON BAKER.
VICE CHAIRPERSON BAKER STATED, "IS THERE ANY MORE TO THAT?"
ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEMBER GILMORE STATED, "I WOULD ADD THAT
WE WOULD USE THE TERMINOLOGY THAT KEVIN (SMITH) JUST GAVE US
THAT HAS BEEN RECORDED AND PUT THAT IN THERE."
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MANAGER SMITH COMMENTED,
WITH THAT, IF I MAY, YOU CAN
WILL STAND IN THAT MANNER."
"AND VICE CHAIR[PERSON] IF YOU AGREE
SIMPLY SAY `I AGREE' AND THE MOTION
VICE CHAIRPERSON BAKER NOTED, "I AGREE WITH IT." SECONDED BY
ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEMBER GILMORE. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
CHAIRPERSON BROOK: AYE
VICE CHAIRPERSON BAKER: AYE
COMMITTEE MEMBER GILMORE: AYE
COMMITTEE MEMBER WOLF: AYE
COMMITTEE MEMBER COKER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Chairperson Brook said to Manager Smith, "Thank you". Mr. Smith stated, "Thank you Madam
Chair(person), and if I may just briefly, as your City Manager, more important as a resident of
Tuscawilla, I just want to thank you all for everything that you do for us out here in Winter
Springs."
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601. Community Development Department — Urban Beautification Services Division
Bud�et Review.
Mr. Richart presented this Agenda Item with a review of the Budget.
Further discussion ensued regarding the Fund Balance and Mr. Richart commented, "Remember
we talked about the Fund Balance being reduced every year. We are spending more than we are
taking in essentially. With our current Assessment of one hundred twenty dollars ($120.00) an
E.R.U. (Equivalent Resident Unit), we are not hitting the number."
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Discussion continued regarding Fund Balance.
Mr. Richart noted, "The board has voiced a strong desire to continue to maintain the community,
to plant the plants and to keep everything looking nice." Mr. Richart added, "So, what we are
trying to do is to raise the Assessment enough to balance what we axe having to spend to keep
the community nice." Discussion continued.
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Then, Mr. Richart added, "Another issue that affects this Fund heavily is that we have so many
Street Lights. When our Street Light bill goes up — a couple percent, for us that is ten [thousand
dollars] ($10,000.00) to fifteen [thousand dollars] ($15,000.00). We have such a big investment
in these Street Lights any time there is a change. We have been aggressive at managing the
money. It just takes a lot to run the place."
Discussion.
Advisory Committee Member Gilmore remarked, "We Approved a rate increase. What is the
status of that?" Mr. Richart responded, "The increase will go with the City's Budget to the
Commission. We are having a Budget Workshop tomorrow night (Thursday, July 21, 2011). I
have invited (Chairperson) Mary Brook to attend in case there are any questions as to having
Board input as to why the Assessment is recommended to be raised eight dollars ($8.00) for this
Maintenance Fund. I do not anticipate any issues but if there are, I think that Mary (Brook) is
going to be there. But it will be Approved with the Final Budget. It has been recommended for
Approval."
Further discussion.
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602. Community Development Department — Urban Beautification Services Division
Review Of Maintenance Items And Progress Report.
Mr. Richart introduced this Agenda Item and noted, "The Commission just Voted to hire
Eastwood Tuff Turf [Of Central Florida, Inc.], again saving you over twenty thousand dollars
($20,000.00) annually. We have worked with them before." Discussion.
Further comments followed on review of Maintenance Items and related progress.
In other City business, Advisory Committee Member Luci Coker stated, "The next [Regular]
meeting is October 19 2011."
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ADJOURNMENT
Chairperson Brook adjourned the Regular Meeting at 8:09 p.m.
RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED:
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CAROL A. LA LATHIN
ASSISTANT TO THE CITY CLERK
NOTE: These Minutes were approved at the October 19, 2011 Tuscawilla Lighting and Beautification District Advisory Committee Regular
Meeting.