HomeMy WebLinkAbout2011 09 21 Consent 200 Requesting Approval of the Bicycle and Pedestrian Advisory Committee Regular Meeting Minutes of June 15, 2011CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA
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CALL TO ORDER
The Regular Meeting of Wednesday, June 15, 2011 of the Bicycle and Pedestrian Advisory
Committee was called to Order at 7:01 p.m. by Vice Chairperson William B. Carpenter in the
Commission Chambers of the Municipal Building (City Hall, 1126 East State Road 434, Winter
Springs, Florida 32708).
Roll Call:
Vice Chairperson William B. Carpenter, present
Committee Member Gary Brook, present
Committee Member Larry Hartman, present
Committee Member Lance Stephan, arrived at 7:03 p.m.
Committee Member Kok Wan Mah, present
A moment of silence preceded the Pledge of Allegiance.
Advisory Committee Member Lance Stephan arrived at 7:03 p.m.
Vice Chairperson Carpenter asked if there were any changes to the Agenda. None were noted.
REGULAR AGENDA - PART I
REGtTLAR
600. Office Of The City Clerk
Requesting An Election Of Chairperson For The Bicycle And Pedestrian Advisory
Committee Be Held For 2011.
FOR THE POSITION OF CHAIRPERSON, "I WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE BILL
CARPENTER WHO IS CURRENTLY VICE CHAIR." MOTION BY ADVISORY
COMMITTEE MEMBER MAH. SECONDED BY ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEMBER
BROOK. DISCUSSION.
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VOTE:
COMMITTEE MEMBER MAH: AYE
VICE CHAIRPERSON CARPENTER: AYE
COMMITTEE MEMBER BROOK: AYE
COMMITTEE MEMBER HARTMAN: AYE
COMMITTEE MEMBER STEPHAN: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
REGULAR
601. Office Of The City Clerk
Requesting An Election Of Vice Chairperson For The Bicycle And Pedestrian Advisory
Committee Be Held For 2011.
"I NOMINATE LARRY [HARTMAN] FOR VICE [CHAIRPERSON]." MOTION BY
ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEMBER BROOK. SECONDED BY ADVISORY
COMMITTEE MEMBER MAH. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
CHAIRPERSON CARPENTER: AYE
COMMITTEE MEMBER BROOK: AYE
COMMITTEE MEMBER HARTMAN: AYE
COMMITTEE MEMBER STEPHAN: AYE
COMMITTEE MEMBER MAH: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
INFORMATIONAL AGENDA
INFORMATIONAL
100. Public Works Department
Providing Information To The Bicycle And Pedestrian Advisory Committee Regarding The
Status Of Several Future Florida Department Of Transportation (FDOT) Projects In The
Winter Springs Vicinity, And An Update On Several Transportation Projects Recently
Submitted By City Staff To Metroplan Orlando For Funding Consideration.
Mr. Brian Fields, P.E., City Engineer, Public Works Department presented this Agenda Item and
noted, "Item `100' is more of a synopsis of various DOT (Department of Transportation) projects
that are in and around the City; as well as some projects that we were fortunate enough to be
highly prioritized at MetroPlan (Orlando) for funding in the near future."
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Continuing, Mr. Fields offered to review each project with the Committee Members and
commented, "The DOT (Department of Transportation) projects that are out there is (Highway)
17 -92 from Shepard (Road) to Lake Mary Boulevard. That is not in our City limits but
obviously it affects our City quite a bit. It is scheduled to be resurfaced later this summer.
Project number three (3) is the widening of that same segment and that is a huge project going
from four (4) to six (6) lanes."
Mr. Fields then added, "Construction is scheduled to start in 2015. Project two (2), (State Road)
434 from (State Road) 417 to Mitchell Hammock (Road) is scheduled for resurfacing in 2013; it
is under design right now. That is an important road segment for Winter Springs. That project
will include at least paved `white shoulders' added to the existing road there. There should be
four foot (4') paved shoulders all the way to (State Road) 417. They are trying to get sidewalks
in where there is available right -of -way along that segment. In the Winter Springs portion, there
is not a lot of right -of -way available; it is very constrained. They are not acquiring right -of -way
for that project. I will keep the Commission as well as this Board posted on the status of that."
With further discussion, Mr. Fields stated, "Project four (4), (State Road) 434 from (State Road)
419 to Tuskawilla (Road) scheduled for resurfacing; design in 2012; constriction in 2015." Mr.
Fields continued, "Project five (5), from 417 to Mitchell Hammock (Road) is the widening from
two (2) to four (4) lanes. It has been selected for filnding for what is called `PDE' Project
Development Environment which is the first step of a long process of a road widening job — do
not know when that will be widened."
Discussion.
Continuing, Mr. Fields noted, "Closer to home as far as City projects that are upcoming — we
have two (2) intersection projects. One is (State Road) 434 at Tuskawilla (Road), what we call
`Market Square' which is that triangular area where we have the Town Center sign. A lot of
issues have been identified with that, as far as just not meeting driver expectations; not being
particularly pedestrian friendly; and we had a consultant come in to work with us on a concept
plan that is going to the Commission at a Town Center Workshop coming up."
Funding and plans for the intersection projects were discussed next. Further discussion ensued
regarding car accidents and accidents involving pedestrians.
Next, Ms. Eloise Sahlstrom, AICP, ASLA, Senior Planner, Community Development
Department commented, "One thing I would really like you as a Committee to look at is the
pedestrian crossings at that intersection because someone has expressed to me a big concern
about going eastbound, crossing Tuskawilla (Road), and people are turning right and they have
the light, but you also have the crossing or vice versa; who has the right -of -way. See if you can
come up with any input for Brian (Fields)."
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Chairperson Carpenter inquired, "When will the plans start — and when will we have opportunity
for input there ?" Mr. Fields replied, "We have a sketch plan of a concept. We are going to get
that drawn up and presented to the Commission in time for what is now an August 1, (2011)
Workshop. I will be glad to forward that to the Committee; it is not going to get built any time
soon, at least for our next meeting and we can provide it ahead of time if anybody wants to
comment."
Advisory Committee Member Kok Wan Mah asked, "Is it too early to go over the concept that
is on what the City is envisioning for that `Market Square' and how you want to improve that
intersection, at least that quadrant? And second question is, is there a way that we can get a copy
of the Summary Crash Reports to at least to be able to see what types of crashes that intersection
is experiencing ?" Mr. Fields replied, "Yes, we can definitely make crash reports available. I
was not planning on going through the sketch plan tonight of the alignment. We can email out
the sketch plans with the improvements there; it is very rough right now. I will be happy to send
that out and collect any input on it." Discussion.
Discussion ensued regarding the speed limit and accident statistics.
Continuing the discussion of the projects, Mr. Fields noted, "The other project that we had
funded for design is the intersection improvements at (State Road) 434 and Winding Hollow;
that is just a standard right turn deceleration lane that has been on our Master Plan for some time.
The construction for that is priority number eight (8) more like 2015 -2016. That will complete
our right turn deceleration program."
With further discussion, Mr. Fields remarked, "Then we have our pedestrian projects that Mr.
Carpenter and Eloise (Sahlstrom) worked very hard on and those were submitted to MetroPlan
(Orlando) to their bike ped[estrian] Committee and those were ranked first and third. Priority
number one (1) is the Winter Springs Town Center sidewalk improvements project which is
sidewalks on Doran Drive, City Hall to the High School, to the bus stops that are out here; just
really enhancing the sidewalk network here in the Town Center up to three hundred thousand
dollars ($300,000.00). The second one is the North Village Walk project which is down Cortez
(Avenue North), First Street, Devon (Avenue North), north side of (State Road) 434 there in the
Village Walk section again up to three hundred thousand dollars ($300,000.00). As far as
funding and timing for that, they are ranked high but there are a lot of existing projects in front of
it; I think that we are projecting probably within five (5) years, hopefully sooner."
Advisory Committee Member Gary Brook stated, "I am pleased with those two (2) getting as
high a project priority as you got." Discussion on additional funding for other projects and
sidewalk projects in other areas ensued.
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INFORMATIONAL
101. Community Development Department — Planning Division
Requests That The Bicycle And Pedestrian Advisory Committee (BAPAC) Review
Materials Related To "Complete Streets ".
Ms. Sahlstrom introduced this Agenda Item and remarked, "Actually Bill (Chairperson
Carpenter) had come in and met with us and commented on a few things that he felt would be a
good topic for tonight's meeting; so, based on that, I put this Agenda Item together to discuss —
`Complete Streets' and what the status of that is in Florida."
Then, Ms. Sahlstrom added, "Currently there is some Federal Legislation that is looking at the
term `Complete Streets'. At the State level there was some Legislation adopted and then it varies
a little after that at the local level. For example, included in your packet is the Resolution from
Winter Park where they adopted a Resolution locally to address `Complete Streets'. What we
have done locally is, we do have in our Comprehensive Plan, this Policy 6. 1.1 and also Policy
1.2.7. In (Policy) 1.2.7, it says `Design major roadways as `Complete Streets' to enable a safe,
attractive and comparable access in travel for all users to the extent appropriate'. Then we leave
it at that. I mainly just wanted to provide you information on `Complete Streets' but I certainly
would welcome a discussion if any of you want to lead a discussion in the topic or if you feel
that we should do something filrther at the local level."
Discussion ensued on `Complete Streets'. Chairperson Carpenter mentioned, "A `Complete
Street' on a court [street] that is a quarter mile long, may not include sidewalks; it may be a two
(2) lane road and that may be a `Complete Street'. But a `Complete Street' for a major
thoroughfare is a very different thing and it depends on the context — of the street."
Continuing, Chairperson Carpenter added, "The concept is that if we want to support the idea of
`Complete Streets' for Winter Springs and that would compliment anything that is done at the
Federal and State level, since we really do not have control over our FDOT (Florida Department
of Transportation) roads in our Community and of course those are very important and it would
impact streets that are done on a local basis. It would not require any retro -fit, it is more a
concept that says `that when you do renovate the street or if you build a new street, you will take
into consideration the context of that and try to provide a complete street for all users'."
Chairperson Carpenter then noted, "The reason I suggested that we discuss this is, it has a lot of
impact on pedestrian and bicycle access to that street. By saying it is a `Complete Street' you are
saying not only can motor vehicles use it safely but also bicycle and people on foot. And the idea
might be to suggest to the Commission that we would want to adopt a `Complete Streets' Policy
here in Winter Springs. Although, as Eloise ( Sahlstrom) has pointed out, the Comp[rehensive]
Plan calls for that. That is not part of the Ordinance of Code is that right, Eloise (Sahlstrom) ?"
Ms. Sahlstrom noted, "The Comp[rehensive] Plan is legally binding but it is more of a broad
direction and the Code is supposed to come into Compliance with the Comp[rehensive] Plan if it
is not."
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Chairperson Carpenter remarked, "Recently, the City of Winter Park adopted a `Complete
Streets' Ordinance and Eloise (Sahlstrom) has provided that link for us to take a look at that. I
guess the idea was to introduce it to this Committee to get your ideas and feedback and to ask
you to consider it and then at our next meeting we can discuss it. And if we feel it is appropriate,
we could make a recommendation to the Commission. Are there any other questions or
comments ?"
Mr. Fields stated, "I think that we would like to explore Winter Park as an example. How are
they taking this Resolution and merging it into their Land Development Codes and making it a
requirement of somebody whether it is the City themselves or the Developers that come in. I
think that we have to look into that. I would prefer to strengthen the Comp[rehensive] Plan if we
felt like we needed more, and then look at our Land Development Code to see where it was not
addressing some of those things that are in `Complete Streets' and look to do that. We are
looking to Amend, totally rehabilitate our Land Development Code sometime in the near filture
and maybe use this as part of that. I am not sure that a stand alone Resolution has any strength
other than symbolically, if you do not do that step with your Code."
Further discussion.
Lastly, Chairperson Carpenter noted, "Good discussion and if we can all take a close look at it
and be prepared to discuss it at the next meeting. The key is how you take the concepts of
`Complete Streets' and really implement it through your Land Use Codes and your transportation
implementations."
❖ ❖ AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS WERE
DISCUSSED SIMULTANEOUSLY NEXT, AS DOCUMENTED. ❖ ❖
CONSENT AGENDA
CONSENT
200. Office Of The City Clerk
Requesting Approval Of The December 15, 2010 Bicycle And Pedestrian Advisory
Committee Regular Meeting Minutes.
No discussion.
CONSENT
201. Office Of The City Clerk
Requesting Approval Of The January 20, 2011 Bicycle And Pedestrian Advisory
Committee SDecial Meeting Minutes.
There was no discussion on this Agenda Item.
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CONSENT
202. Office Of The City Clerk
Requesting Approval Of The February 16, 2011 Bicycle And Pedestrian Advisory
Committee Special Meeting Minutes.
This Agenda Item was not discussed.
Chairperson Carpenter commented, "The next item on the Agenda is Consent Approval for the
Minutes that were provided to us for the December 15 th , ( 2011) meeting, the January 20 th , ( 2011)
meeting, and the February 16 th , ( 2011) meeting. Do I have — a Motion for the Consent Agenda ?"
"SO MOVED." MOTION BY ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEMBER BROOK.
SECONDED BY ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEMBER STEPHAN. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMITTEE MEMBER STEPHAN: AYE
COMMITTEE MEMBER MAH: AYE
CHAIRPERSON CARPENTER: AYE
COMMITTEE MEMBER BROOK: AYE
VICE CHAIRPERSON HARTMAN: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
AWARDS AND PRESENTATIONS
AWARDS AND PRESENTATIONS
300. Not Used
400. REPORTS
No Reports were given.
PUBLIC INPUT
Mr. Barry Campbell, 231 Oak Road, Winter ,Springs, Florida: spoke to the Committee Members
about looking at collector roads and identifying where additional work might be needed.
Chairperson Carpenter suggested this topic be discussed at the next meeting.
PUBLIC HEARINGS AGENDA
PUBLIC HEARINGS
500. Not Used
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REGULAR AGENDA - PART II
REGULAR
602. Community Development Department — Planning Division
Requests the Bicycle And Pedestrian Advisory Committee (BAPAC) Review The Links
Included Herein And Provide Input Related To Pedestrian And Bicycle Wayfinding
Signage And Priority Locations.
Ms. Sahlstrom presented this Agenda Item and said, "Chairperson Carpenter mentioned the
Bicycle Wayfinding Signage program that Winter Park, Maitland and Eatonville have
implemented, and in looking at that material — I put this Agenda Item together just basically with
a lot of links of different resources that I found, that I thought would be helpful for you."
Ms. Sahlstrom then introduced a PowerPoint presentation on Wayfinding Signage. Discussion
ensued.
Tape I,'Side B
Continuing, Ms. Sahlstrom talked about bicycle parking that we have at City Hall. Ms. Sahlstrom
added, "The question is should we be identifying it in a different way, or is there some way, that
we need to let people know where we do have bicycle parking ?"
Discussion ensued regarding Bicycle Parking Signage and Wayfinding Signage.
Advisory Committee Member Mah suggested, "The first step is to identify a list of what your
major attractors are within the City, the Town Center, City Hall, the Schools, the Parks, things
like that. Identify proper locations where those signs need to be without over stimulating the
driver by having it all over the place; finding a proper identity in the City for creating a look for
the signs."
Chairperson Carpenter recommended, "I would like to see how we can move this forward; get it
to the point eventually where we know what we want to do and how much it is going to cost and
then we can find finding for it. How we get to that point, I guess we will look to Staff to try to
help us along with that. I know that there is a lot of work that goes into something like this."
Next, Chairperson Carpenter added, "I would like to get input from the Committee and
eventually get it to the point where it is designed and priced out and get funding for it."
Ms. Sahlstrom commented, "What do you think about, if you each had an assignment for the
next time. As [Committee Member] Kok Wan Mah mentioned, we need to identify the major
attractors in the City; and if each of you take that as an assignment and make a list, and put it in
prioritized order. Think about anything that you know about that is unique to add to the list."
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Continuing, Ms. Sahlstrom added, "Maybe about a month before the next meeting or whenever
you get it done, send to me or to Brian [Fields] and we will send out the compiled list as part of
the Agenda Items of the next meeting."
Advisory Committee Member Brook stated, "I am concerned about priorities. I understand how
we would go about creating this overall requirement but I believe that we are limited in funding
and resources. So, I would like us to think of how we could go about establishing a priority of
what we are going to do."
Ms. Sahlstrom remarked, "Even at the bus shelters, there is a place we could put a sign like
"Welcome to Winter Springs" or a slogan, but that could be part of our signage program."
Chairperson Carpenter stated, "That is a good place for a map too." Ms. Sahlstrom added, "A lot
of our signage is made in house — we could try to figure out in a way that becomes cost
effective." Advisory Committee Member Brook stated, "That could be the list that we could
work from and then prioritize that list as to where we want to go with it." Chairperson Carpenter
noted, "I think what Eloise ( Sahlstrom) mentioned that the list of destinations is one of the first
items that you have to think about in terms of priorities." Mr. Fields mentioned that one of the
first destinations may need to be the Town Center.
Next, further discussion ensued regarding Bicycle Parking at City Hall.
Ms. Sahlstrom remarked, "Another comment, that was discussed was visibility or education to
the general public about some of the issues that you care about and that we have discussed and
we do have a quarterly newsletter and there is often times a desire for articles for that
newsletter."
Chairperson Carpenter stated, "I do have an interest in writing a couple of articles and I wanted
to ask the Committee if the Committee thinks that it is appropriate if we use the BAPAC'
(Bicycle and Pedestrian Advisory Committee) byline; in other words, if I write it and I sign it as
the Chairman of BAPAC (Bicycle and Pedestrian Advisory Committee)."
Discussion.
Mr. Fields stated, "I just want to recap our action items for next time. We are going to have the
collector road /sidewalk gap map available and maybe we can prioritize those gaps as far as
nominating for future funding. The gaps that were not part of the priority that we established for
all of the collectors; email out the `Concept Plan' and the summary and accident reports on the
(State Road) 434 /Tuskawilla Road project that we have going and would welcome any input on
that. By the time we meet next, we should have the frill blown Concept Plan as well as direction
from the Commission, signage, and the bike racks."
Ms. Sahlstrom added, "We are also going to look at what is written in the Land Development
Code related to various road sections regarding `Complete Streets'. I would like to encourage all
of you to attend the Town Center Workshop on August 1, (2011). It will be at 6:00 p.m."
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ADJOURNMENT
Chairperson Carpenter adjourned the Regular Meeting at 8:33 p.m.
RE,SPECTF (ILLY ,SUBMITTED:
CAROL A. LALLATHIN
ASSISTANT TO THE CITY CLERK
APPROVED:
WILLIAM B. CARPENTER, CHAIRPERSON
BICYCLE AND PEDESTRIAN ADVISORY COMMITTEE
NOTE: These Minutes were approved at the 2011 Bicvcle and Pedestrian Advisory Committee Regular fleeting.