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HomeMy WebLinkAbout2011 05 04 Consent 201 Requesting Approval of the Planning And Zoning Board/LPA Official Special Meeting Minutes of February 10, 2011 CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA OFFICIAL MINUTES PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD /LOCAL PLANNING AGENCY SPECIAL MEETING FEBRUARY 10, 2011 CALL TO ORDER The Special Meeting of Thursday, February 10, 2011 of the Planning And Zoning Board /Local Planning Agency was called to Order at 6:08 p.m. by Chairman William H. Poe in the Commission Chambers of the Municipal Building (City Hall, 1126 East State Road 434, Winter Springs, Florida 32708). Roll Call: Chairman William H. Poe, present Vice Chairperson Rosanne Karr, arrived at 6:15 p.m. Board Member Howard Casman, present Board Member Bart Phillips, present Board Member Helga Schwarz, present A moment of silence was held, followed by the Pledge of Allegiance. PUBLIC INPUT No one spoke. REGULAR AGENDA REGULAR 600. Community Development Department Requests The Planning And Zoning Board Consider The Concept Plan For A Proposed 4,000 Square Foot (SF) One -Story Retail Building For A Pool Supply Store And A Detached 800 SF (Square Foot) One -Story Drive -Thru Ice Cream Shop On A 0.73 Acre Crescent Shaped Site Within The Town Center. Mr. John Baker, AICP, Senior Planner, Community Development Department presented this Agenda. Item and stated, "We recommend that the P and Z Board (Planning And Zoning Board[ /Local Planning Agency] recommend Denial since it is inconsistent with both the Comprehensive Plan and the City Code." Vice Chairperson Rosanne Karr arrived at 6:15 p.m. CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA OFFICIAL MINUTES PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD /LOCAL PLANNING AGENCY SPECIAL MEETING - FEBRUARY 10, 2011 PAGE2OF5 Mr. Randy Stevenson, ASLA, AICP, Director, Community Development Department explained small irregularly shaped lots in the Winter Springs Town Center. Mr. Roy Malcolm Pugsley, 306 Windcliffe Court, Oviedo, Florida: as the owner (and Applicant) of the Pinch A Penny store, Mr. Pugsley briefly spoke about this project. pp ) Y g Y Y p Mr. Paul Partyka, 292 Solaris Wharf Street, Winter Springs, Florida: as a representative for the Applicant, Mr. Partyka spoke about density, walkability, and the boundaries of the Winter Springs Town Center, Mr. Partyka suggested that a revision of the boundary consistent with the Winter Springs Town Center vision be considered. Vice Chairperson Karr asked Mr. Partyka if he made the request. Mr. Partyka stated, "No, this is the request of Mr. Pugsley, the Owner. "I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THE MOTION THAT WE DENY THIS REQUEST." MOTION BY VICE CHAIRPERSON KARR. SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER CASMAN. DISCUSSION. BOARD MEMBER SCHWARZ SAID, "I AM JUST NOT WILLING TO THROW ON AGENDA ITEMS LIKE DECIDING WHETHER WE WANT TO FOREGO BOUNDARIES OR ARE WE JUST ASKING THE COMMISSION TO REQUEST REDOING BOUNDARIES, BECAUSE I AM NOT IN FAVOR OF THAT, QUITE FRANKLY. I DON'T WANT TO SET UP AN ISLAND WITHIN OUR TOWN CENTER. WE JUST HAD AN APPLICANT COME, CONFORM TO THE TOWN CENTER TO BUILD A SCHOOL. WE HAVE HERITAGE PARK ACROSS THE STREET WHICH I BELIEVE IS IN THE TOWN CENTER, CONFORM TO THE CODE AND I KNOW THERE IS A WAY TO PUT A TWO (2) STORY BUILDING ON THIS PROPERTY, IF IT IS DONE WELL. I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE ARE BEING ASKED TO DO THAT WHEN OUR PURVIEW WAS TO READ THIS AGENDA ITEM AND VOTE ON IT FOR THE SPECIAL EXCEPTIONS THAT WERE PRESENTED." DISCUSSION. REFERENCING SMALL IRREGULARLY SHAPED LOTS, MR. STEVENSON STATED, "WHAT WE PRESENTED TO YOU TONIGHT - IS THE CODE AS IT EXISTS AND HOW THIS PROPERTY RELATES TO THE CODE. WE DID IN FACT BRING AN AGENDA ITEM TO THE COMMISSION LAST FALL — ASKING FOR US TO ACCESS AND ENUMERATE CERTAIN SMALL IRREGULARLY SHAPED LOTS OF WHICH THIS WAS ONE. WE DID NOT GET APPROVAL ON THAT. CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA OFFICIAL MINUTES PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD /LOCAL PLANNING AGENCY SPECIAL MEETING - FEBRUARY 10, 2011 PAGE 3 OF 5 SO, ALL WHAT JOHN (BAKER) HAD PRESENTED TO YOU IS THE WAY THE CODE AS IT STANDS, AND THAT IS WHAT STAFF IS CHARGED WITH ro TO ACCESS THESE APPLICATIONS AS THEY STACK UP AGAINST THE CURRENT CODE." MR. BAKER SAID, "IF YOU LOOK ON PAGE 10 OF YOUR AGENDA ITEM APRIL 28, 2010, PROPOSED TEXT AMENDMENT FOR SMALL IRREGULARLY SHAPED LOTS IN THE TOWN CENTER BEFORE THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD[ /LOCAL PLANNING AGENCY]. THE P AND Z BOARD (PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD[ /LOCAL PLANNING AGENCY] WAS NOT SUPPORTIVE OF AUTOMATICALLY WAIVING CODE PROVISIONS ON SMALL IRREGULARLY SHAPED LOTS ALTHOUGH IT DID SUPPORT - INFRASTRUCTURE. THE CITY COMMISSION CONSIDERED THE PROPOSAL ON JUNE 21 ST , (2010) AND - CONSENSUS FOR EVENTUAL COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND TO ALLOW A SECOND STORY - FOR A SIGNATURE BUILDING OR SOMETHING ARCHITECTURALLY NOTEWORTHY. NO COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OR CODE AMENDMENT HAS BEEN ADOPTED TO IMPLEMENT THIS CONSENSUS - STAFF DOES NOT BELIEVE THAT EITHER OF THESE IS A SIGNATURE BUILDING." BOARD MEMBER PHILLIPS STATED, "I WALKED THE LOT TODAY AND I WAS LOOKING AT THE WALKABILITY OF THIS. IF YOU HEAD EAST ON (STATE ROAD) 434, IT IS ALL WETLANDS, SO IT IS GOING TO BE UNBUILDABLE IN THAT AREA AND IF YOU ARE COMING FROM THE REST OF THE TOWN CENTER, YOU ARE GOING TO BE PASSING THROUGH THE SCHOOL PROPERTY WHICH IS - A LONG WALK. IT IS NOT LIKE IT IS GOING TO BE, WALK RIGHT NEXT DOOR AND YOU ARE GOING TO BE AT THE NEXT STORE. IF YOU LOOK AT THE BALL FIELDS AND HAVING THE ICE CREAM SHOP, THERE MIGHT BE AN ATTRACTION FOR PEOPLE TO WALK FROM THE BALL FIELDS OVER AND HAVE SOMETHING THERE AND SIT DOWN OR DRIVE THROUGH AND GRAB SOMETHING. BUT THE LOT ITSELF, IF YOU LOOK AT THE CHARTER SCHOOL, THAT IS SET BACK OFF OF (STATE ROAD) 434 - HAS A WATER RETENTION AREA THAT IS OFF OF (STATE ROAD) 434 AND IT IS SET BACK A LITTLE BIT, BUT ALMOST CONFORMS WITH WHAT IS GOING TO THE OTHER SIDE OF THE SIDE STREET THERE. CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA OFFICIAL MINUTES PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD /LOCAL PLANNING AGENCY SPECIAL MEETING - FEBRUARY 10, 2011 PAGE4OF5 THE PARKING LOT IS RIGHT NEXT TO A PARKING LOT WITH CHAIN LINK FENCE OF THE SCHOOL AND THEY ARE NOT GOING TO CHANGE THAT PARKING LOT AT ALL; SO, YOU ARE REALLY NOT DEGRADING THAT AREA AT ALL, AND WHEN YOU ARE ACTUALLY DRIVING TOWARD THE TOWN CENTER HEADING EASTBOUND, TO HAVE A TWO C7 (2) STORY BUILDING RIGHT THERE COMPARED TO A SINGLE STORY LEADING UP TO THE CITY WHICH WOULD BE TWO (2) STORIES, I THINK IT CONFORMS AND IT LOOKS NICE." BOARD MEMBER SCHWARZ SAID, "BUT THERE IS A VACANT LOT ACROSS THE STREET THAT IS SMALL, RIGHT NEXT TO HERITAGE PARK THAT IS `TOWN CENTER' AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ACREAGE OF THAT IS. THAT WOULD HAVE TO CONFORM; SO, I DON'T WANT TO DO SOMETHING - SHORT SIGHTED HERE. THE QUESTIONS I HAD THOUGH, TO ME WE ARE PUTTING THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE BECAUSE WE ARE NOT EVEN ADDRESSING THE SPECIAL EXCEPTION TO HAVE THE POOL SUPPLY STORE IN THE TOWN CENTER AND ITS NOT LIKE THERE HAS NOT BEEN A PRECEDENT FOR THAT TO HAPPEN. IT DID HAPPEN IN 2002 WHEN LESLIE POOLS APPLIED FOR ITS SPECIAL EXCEPTION AND THERE WERE ISSUES THAT MR. BAKER BROUGHT UP BEFORE STAFF REGARDING SERVICE VEHICLES BEING STORED ON THE PROPERTY AND CHLORINE GAS TANKS. THESE ARE QUESTIONS I WOULD WANT ANSWERED. IF THAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN WITH THIS POOL SERVICE COMPANY AND THE VIABILITY OF THIS POOL SUPPLY STORE IN THAT LOCATION GIVEN THE FACT THAT IT IS NOT AT TUSKAWILLA (ROAD) AND (STATE ROAD) 434. BUT NONETHELESS, I AM ADDRESSING THE SPECIAL EXCEPTIONS. I THINK THERE ARE WAY TOO MANY OF THEM GIVEN THE CODE AND IF THE VISION OF THE TOWN CENTER PER THIS DOCUMENT THAT WE WENT OVER BACK IN DECEMBER IS CHANGING, I WANT THAT DIRECTION TO COME FROM THE CITY COMMISSION THAT THEY ARE GOING TO CHANGE THE VISION. I AM NOT ABOUT TO SUGGEST TO THEM THAT THEY NEED TO CHANGE IT, BUT I AGREE THAT THIS SHOULD BE DENIED." CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA OFFICIAL MINUTES PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD /LOCAL PLANNING AGENCY SPECIAL MEETING — FEBRUARY 10, 2011 C' PAGE 5OF5 VOTE: 'v BOARD MEMBER CASMAN: AYE BOARD MEMBER SCHWARZ: AYE BOARD MEMBER PHILLIPS: NAY VICE CHAIRPERSON KARR: AYE CHAIRMAN POE: AYE MOTION CARRIED. For clarification, Mr. Stevenson stated, "The Charter School was designated as a `Civic Site' and as such, it has certain leeways on its frontage, and in this case that school was fronted on the north side, towards the Park. So, it does meet that street relationship and that is unique to the `Civic' designation that we have. The site across the way at the entrance towards Heritage Park; pursuant to the DA (Development Agreement), that parcel would be developed in accordance with the Town Center Code relative to the build to lines and certain other things, but the DA (Development Agreement) does allow the Owner of that parcel to request the City Commission alleviate those requirements from them. So, that is not in the Town Center, but it was contractually agreed that it would be developed pursuant to Town Center standards with the codicil that they could request relief from that." Further discussion. Mr. Partyka thanked the Board Members for their time and effort and for holding this Special Meeting. ADJOURNMENT Chairman Poe adjourned the Special Meeting at 6:40 p.m. RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED: JOAN L. BROWN DEPUTY CITY CLERK APPROVED: WILLIAM H. POE, CHAIRMAN PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD /LOCAL PLANNING AGENCY NOTE: These Minutes were approved at the , 2011 Planning And Zoning Board/Local Planning Agency Regular Meeting.