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BICYCLE AND PEDESTRIAN ADVISORY COMMITTEE
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CALL TO ORDER
The Special Meeting of Wednesday, February 16, 2011 of the Bicycle and Pedestrian
Advisory Committee was called to Order at 7:00 p.m. by Chairperson George Colombo in
the Commission Chambers of the Municipal Building (City Hall, 1126 East State Road
434, Winter Springs, Florida 32708).
Roll Call:
Chairperson George Colombo, present
Vice Chairperson William B. Carpenter, present
Committee Member Gary Brook, present
Committee Member Larry Hartman, present
Committee Member Lance Stephan, absent
Ex- Officio Member Kok Wan Mah, present
A moment of silence preceded the Pledge of Allegiance.
PUBLIC INPUT
Mr. Barry Campbell, 231 Oak Road, Winter Springs, Florida: asked the Committee
Members to consider a long term goal of providing sidewalks or stabilized trails at least
along one side of most Collectors and Arterials in the City.
Mr. Randy Stevenson, ASLA, AICP, Director, Community Development Department
thanked the Committee for serving the Community and referred to the Future Land Use
Map dated December 2010 and discussed the GreeneWay Interchange District.
Continuing, Mr. Stevenson explained, "The intent is to tie — the Town Center and the
GreeneWay Interchange District not only with a continuation of the Cross Seminole Trail,
but also with the bus rapid transit if we can get that started on a small scale along some
type of internal right -of -way along (State Road) 434 preferably so you don't have to go
out into (State Road) 434. It would be a closed system."
Next, Mr. Stevenson commented, "We want to make it something that is connected to our
Trail system to our `Pedestrian Mobility System' and also Mobility Strategies or Mobility
options whether it is walking, biking, running or something like a bus rapid transit internal
closed loop."
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Discussion.
ti Next, Mr. Stevenson remarked, "I am hoping, if all goes well that we can get a Concept
Plan within the next couple of months to the City Commission and then we can share that ^'
with this body as well." Committee Member Gary Brook asked, "Please let the Board
know when you will be taking that to the Commission so we can be in attendance." Mr.
Stevenson replied, "I sure will."
❖ ❖ AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING REGULAR AGENDA ITEM WAS
DISCUSSED NEXT, FOLLOWED BY THE REST OF THE AGENDA, AS
DOCUMENTED. ❖ ❖
REGULAR AGENDA
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601. Community Development Department — Planning Division And Public Works
— Engineering Division
Request The Bicycle And Pedestrian Advisory Committee (BPAC) Review, Revise
And Adopt The 2030 Bicycle Facilities Plan.
Ms. Eloise Sahlstrom, AICP, ASLA, Senior Planner, Community Development
Department presented this Agenda Item and displayed the "2030 Bicycle Facilities Plan
Map" dated February 2011 and stated, "I printed a large one down here. Let me just
introduce it and then if you would come and we can look at it up close and mark it up. I
also have the one we had from last time and I added everything that you guys had added
plus a few more; particularly in the way of Multi -Use Trails and with the idea that this
could be a long range plan."
Continuing, Ms. Sahlstrom remarked, "Everything in green is proposed Bicycle Route
because we have none existing and then the `red' dash line represents proposed Multi -Use
Path or Trails and red solid line shows the existing Cross Seminole Trail with the dash
portion that is not complete."
Next, Ms. Sahlstrom suggested, "Have a Connection between Moss Road and Sherry
(Avenue) — because there are no roads that go between there and that could be a nice
east/west connection to help tie to the (Central Winds) Park."
Discussion ensued on connectivity to the Cross Seminole Trail.
Referencing State Road 434, Vice Chairperson William B. Carpenter asked, "Can we
make it bicycle friendly and include it as part of the bike route? But right now it is not.
Alternatives are to redesign it so that the speeds are slower and you can share with
bicycles or develop parallel paths that there are problems with both."
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Continuing, Vice Chairperson Carpenter remarked, "If we make a road friendly to Z
pedestrians, there is going to be more pedestrian traffic. Always keep that in mine. What
is happening now isn't necessarily what our vision should be." Chairperson Colombo ti
asked, "Is that unfriendly in what sense ?" Vice Chairperson Carpenter replied, "It is
unfriendly because it is difficult to cross. The sidewalks are relatively narrow and they are
very close to the road. There are very few pleasant destinations to walk to — it is not a — Cn
pedestrian friendly street. It can be made that way, by Land Use changes and by changing
the configuration of the street which should be a long term goal."
Mr. Brian Fields, P.E., City Engineer, Public Works Department commented, "(State sNm'"-"`
Road) 434 is being planned to be resurfaced from the (GreeneWay Interchange) 417 all
the way down into (State Road) 426 - and that is planned to include bike lanes."
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Discussion ensued on the multi -use path trail and widening sidewalks.
Next, Vice Chairperson Carpenter suggested, "One of the things I recommend on the Map
is to talk about destinations and connections — to the (Oviedo) mall and similar to all the
different connections." Vice Chairperson Carpenter then added, "And just show those as a
feature on the map."
Committee Member Brooks remarked, "Do we want to go ahead and include the `Loop' ?"
Vice Chairperson Carpenter responded, "Yes, I would definitely say that." No objections
were noted.
Lastly, Ms. Sahlstrom asked, "Anybody see anything else — the routes? Are you happy
with the way they are shaped and located ?" Chairperson Colombo stated, "I am
comfortable with what we have." There were no objections voiced.
Ms. Sahlstrom asked, "As far as looking at this, what would you say is your first priority
to accomplish ?"
Chairperson Colombo asked, "Looking at this as a Master Plan, is there anything that
needs to be prioritized from a critical path standpoint ?" Ms. Sahlstrom replied, "There
would be some of that, certainly. If there were Land Acquisitions that would have to be
done or Easements."
Discussion.
Vice Chairperson Carpenter stated, "I would pull together all these short links and really
those should be addressed as soon as possible."
Discussion ensued on Funding.
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Next, Vice Chairperson Carpenter asked, "Do we want to move ahead with designating
bicycle routes in the City and doing a map and putting up signs? Would encourage
people to ride and it would also encourage visitors to take advantage of people coming -�
into town and say `Here's a map. I can use this to find my way around by bike'."
Mr. Fields responded, "I would like to further explore that. I would like to see what other
communities are doing — having that as a priority program is worthy — what the options C
are and what are the costs."
Summarizing, Mr. Fields stated, "So, we have three (3) higher priorities; the power line
Easement, the Winding Hollow connector, and the Greenbriar extension with wayfinding
designations, Highlands Trail connector."
"I MOVE THAT WE ACCEPT THE BICYCLE MASTER PLAN (FACILITIES)
MAP WITH CHANGES AS MARKED AND THE PROJECT PRIORITY AS
MARKED ON THE MAP AND DISCUSSED." MOTION BY VICE
CHAIRPERSON CARPENTER. SECONDED BY COMMITTEE MEMBER
BROOKS. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMITTEE MEMBER HARTMAN: AYE
CHAIRPERSON COLOMBO: AYE
VICE CHAIRPERSON CARPENTER: AYE
COMMITTEE MEMBER BROOK: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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600. Community Development Department - Planning Division And Public Works
- Engineering Division
Request The Bicycle And Pedestrian Advisory Committee (BPAC) Review, Revise
And Adopt The Inventory Of Public Sidewalk Gaps - 2011, With Priority Ranking.
Ranking Is Based On A '/4 Mile Proximity To The Greatest Number Of Certain
Identified Pedestrian Attractors.
Ms. Sahlstrom introduced this Agenda Item and referenced a document entitled,
"Inventory of Public SIDEWALK Gaps RANKED" and the "2030 Bicycle Facilities Plan
Map" dated February 2011 and stated, "This Map goes along with this list — and this is
basically the Map you had last time but you had asked for changes to it primarily being
that you wanted to see Density and that is noted with the buildings. If you see buildings
clustered, then you know that it is a little higher Density in that area."
Referring to the Map, Ms. Sahlstrom indicated that, "Red is no sidewalks, orange is one
(1) side, and yellow is both sides."
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Referencing a document entitled, "Priority Inventory of Public SIDEWALK Gaps z
RANKED ", Ms. Sahlstrom stated, "The first grouping which is all north of (State Road)
434 in this area, I found out this would qualify for a Community Development Block -c
Grant."
Discussion ensued on the "Priority Inventory" list.
Chairperson Colombo suggested Priority 1 A as a high Priority because, "There are lots of
kids walking to school. If I am understanding you correctly, that because it is a right -of-
way, there is no question of permission ?" Mr. Fields commented, "I will recommend to
the group to leave those on the list."
Vice Chairperson Carpenter remarked, "I agree with what Brian (Fields) said and I think
we should include them. We just need to think about the priorities. It would be great to
get a system where we could involve the residents in this planning process as well. That is
something to think about."
Discussion ensued on Grant Funding.
Next, Vice Chairperson Carpenter suggested, "I really feel that the number one (1) priority
should be the Town Center, the (Winter Springs High) School, and City Hall. That is
supposed to be the center of Winter Springs and it is supposed to set the pattern for the
rest of the City." Committee Member Brooks remarked, "I agree with that too." Vice
Chairperson Carpenter then added, "I think we need to designate all the — red Collectors
and put them in as a project in itself and that should almost be a number two (2) priority."
Committee Member Brooks commented, "I agree." There were no objections voiced.
Furthermore, Ms. Sahlstrom commented, "The Comp[rehensive] Plan Policy for `Level of
Service for Sidewalks' identifies it as we have shown it here with these priorities, that if it
is within one fourth ( of a mile of pedestrian attractors, which includes schools, parks
and transit — we are looking to Amend the Comp[rehensive] Plan based on comments
from this Committee and the Mobility."
Vice Chairperson Carpenter remarked, "I would recommend that we Amend the
Comp[rehensive] Plan to include sidewalks on all collector roads at least on one (1) side
and that may involve compacted hard surfaces as opposed to concrete depending on the
context of that road and that sidewalk."
Mr. Fields stated, "There are not a lot of designated City collector roads that do not have
anything on either side."
Discussion.
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Chairperson Colombo remarked, "I don't believe the pedestrian traffic will mirror the Z
automobile traffic. So, something that is a collector road or an arterial, might not
obviously be a great candidate for sidewalks as opposed to something that is located in a c
more dense area or that is located near a school. I am pretty comfortable with the existing
prioritization scheme." Vice Chairperson Carpenter added, "I think one of the things we
have to look at is not just utility walking but recreational walking as well. I think that is
what is being talked about on some of these roads in the Ranchlands for instance." C
"I MOVE THAT WE ACCEPT THE PEDESTRIAN PLAN AS DRAWN AND
AMENDED IN THIS MEETING AND THAT WE DESIGNATE FOUR (4)
DIFFERENT PROJECTS. IS THAT CORRECT ?" MS. SAHLSTROM STATED,
"THERE ARE THREE (3) GROUPS FOR THE FIVE (5) YEAR." VICE
CHAIRPERSON CARPENTER THEN ADDED, "PLUS THE COLLECTOR
ROAD PROJECT WE ADDED. THAT MOTION WILL END WITH
ACCEPTANCE OF THE PLAN AS DRAWN AND AMENDED." MOTION BY
VICE CHAIRPERSON CARPENTER. SECONDED BY COMMITTEE MEMBER
HARTMAN. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMITTEE MEMBER BROOK: AYE
COMMITTEE MEMBER HARTMAN: AYE
CHAIRPERSON COLOMBO: AYE
VICE CHAIRPERSON CARPENTER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
"I MOVE THAT WE MAKE THE FIRST PRIORITY THE SIDEWALKS
AROUND THE HIGH SCHOOL AND CITY HALL." MOTION BY VICE
CHAIRPERSON CARPENTER. SECONDED BY COMMITTEE MEMBER
HARTMAN. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMITTEE MEMBER HARTMAN: AYE
CHAIRPERSON COLOMBO: AYE
VICE CHAIRPERSON CARPENTER: AYE
COMMITTEE MEMBER BROOK: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
"I MAKE A MOTION THAT THE SECOND PRIORITY BE IDENTIFYING
COLLECTOR ROADS THAT DO NOT HAVE A SIDEWALK OR STABILIZED
SURFACE FOR WALKING AND THOSE SHOULD BE THE SECOND
PRIORITY PROJECT ON THE PLAN." MOTION BY VICE CHAIRPERSON
CARPENTER. VICE CHAIRPERSON CARPENTER STATED, "I WILL
WITHDRAW THAT MOTION."
MOTION WAS WITHDRAWN.
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"I WILL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ASK STAFF TO IDENTIFY THOSE
COLLECTOR ROADS THAT REQUIRE ADDITIONAL WORK TO BRING ;;'
THEM UP TO THE STANDARD OF HAVING A SIDEWALK OR A HARD
SURFACE BESIDE THEM AND REPORT TO US AT THE NEXT MEETING."
MOTION BY VICE CHAIRPERSON CARPENTER. SECONDED BY
COMMITTEE MEMBER BROOKS. DISCUSSION. -�
VOTE:
COMMITTEE MEMBER HARTMAN: AYE
CHAIRPERSON COLOMBO: AYE
VICE CHAIRPERSON CARPENTER: AYE
COMMITTEE MEMBER BROOK: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
"I WILL MAKE A MOTION THEN TO INCLUDE THE OTHER TWO (2)
PROJECTS THAT STAFF HAS FORMULATED INVOLVING SIDEWALKS ON
THE WEST SIDE OF TOWN IN THE ORDER THAT THEY WERE
FORMULATED AS THE SECOND PRIORITY FOR SIDEWALK WORK IN THE
PLAN." MOTION BY VICE CHAIRPERSON CARPENTER. SECONDED BY
COMMITTEE MEMBER HARTMAN. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMITTEE MEMBER HARTMAN: AYE
CHAIRPERSON COLOMBO: AYE
VICE CHAIRPERSON CARPENTER: AYE
COMMITTEE MEMBER BROOK: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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602. Community Development Department — Planning Division And Public Works
— Engineering Division
Request The Bicycle And Pedestrian Advisory Committee (BPAC) Review, Revise
And Adopt The Proposed Five -Year Capital Improvements Program For Bicycle And
Pedestrian Facilities.
This Agenda Item was discussed in the previous Agenda Items "600" and "601". Staff
stated that no further action on this Agenda Item was necessary.
Discussion ensued on Committee Member assistance on various projects.
Chairperson Colombo asked, "So what are the things that are immediately in your sights
and what specific help are you looking for from us ?" Ms. Sahlstrom replied, "I am
looking for somebody who is good at writing and who can kind of put the Application
together."
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Mr. Fields stated, "My suggestion would be on the Grants is that if you find a Grant, we
now have a — cabinet full of potential projects to read the Grant, understand it, pick out
which project we have on our list that might be a good fit, customize it, modify as needed -c
to make it qualify best and score the highest." Chairperson Colombo remarked, "I would
like to help." Vice Chairperson Carpenter then added, "I would too."
Chairperson Colombo stated, "I would be happy to tackle the CDBG (Community v
Development Block Grant)." Vice Chairperson Carpenter commented, "The two (2) that
we talked about, one (1) would be the sidewalks in the Town Center area and so on, and I
would be willing to help with that."
A document entitled, "St. Petersburg City Trails" was then distributed to the Committee
Members.
Committee Member Larry Hartman asked, "Is there a possibility of getting help from a
City Commissioner ?" Mr. Fields responded, "Yes. I have used the services of the Mayor
and others to write cover letters and make phone calls for particular Grant Applications.
That is entirely appropriate at the right time for each project."
Chairperson Colombo remarked, "Eloise (Sahlstrom) mentioned — she would like to
reschedule our March Meeting which is currently scheduled for the 16 (March 2011)."
With further discussion, Chairperson Colombo suggested the 30 of March, 2011.
"I MOTION THAT WE MOVE OUR MEETING THAT WE HAVE SCHEDULED
FROM MARCH 16 (2011) TO THE 30 OF MARCH (2011)." MOTION BY
COMMITTEE MEMBER HARTMAN. SECONDED BY COMMITTEE MEMBER
BROOKS. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
CHAIRPERSON COLOMBO: AYE
VICE CHAIRPERSON CARPENTER: AYE
COMMITTEE MEMBER BROOK: AYE
COMMITTEE MEMBER HARTMAN: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Ms. Sahlstrom distributed a document referencing information on New Urbanism and
Form Based Codes.
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ADJOURNMENT z
Chairperson Colombo adjourned the Special Meeting at 8:48 p.m.
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RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED:
JOAN L. BROWN
DEPUTY CITY CLERK
APPROVED:
GEORGE COLOMBO, CHAIRPERSON
BICYCLE AND PEDESTRIAN ADVISORY COMMITTEE
NOTE: These Minutes were approved at the , 2011 Bicycle and Pedestrian Advisory Committee Regular
Meeting.