HomeMy WebLinkAbout2010 12 13 Consent 207 City Commission Joint Meeting With The City Of Oviedo of November 10, 2010CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA
CITY COMMISSION
MINUTES
JOINT MEETING WITH THE CITY OF OVIEDO
WEDNESDAY, NOVEMBER 10, 2010 - 6:00 P.M.
CITY HALL — COMMISSION CHAMBERS
1126 EAST STATE ROAD 434, WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA
Mayor Charles Lacey
Commissioner Jean Hovey - Seat One
Deputy Mayor Rick Brown - Seat Two
Commissioner Gary Bonner - Seat Three
Commissioner Cade Resnick - Seat Four
Commissioner Joanne M. Krebs - Seat Five
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CALL TO ORDER
The Joint Workshop of Wednesday, November 10, 2010 of the City of Winter Springs' City Commission and the
City of Oviedo City Council was called to Order by Mayor Charles Lacey at 6:18 p.m. in the West Conference
Room of the Municipal Building (City Hall, 1126 East State Road 434, Winter Springs, Florida 32708).
Roll Call:
Mayor Charles Lacey, present
Deputy Mayor Rick Brown, present
Commissioner Jean Hovey, present
Commissioner Gary Bonner, present
Commissioner Cade Resnick, present
Commissioner Joanne M. Krebs, present
City Manager Kevin L. Smith, present
City Attorney Anthony A. Garganese, present
City of Oviedo:
Mayor Dominic Persampiere, present
Deputy Mayor Steve Henken, present
Councilmember Cindy Drago, present
Councilmember Keith Britton, present
Councilmember Stephen Schenck, absent
City Manager Richard Gestrich, present
City Attorney Lonnie Groot, present
Welcome
Opening Remarks: Mayor Charles Lacey, City of Winter Springs
Mayor Lacey welcomed everyone, mentioned he was pleased that everyone could attend, and was hopeful that the
City of Oviedo, the University of Central Florida, and the City of Winter Springs could have a good working
relationship.
Opening Remarks: Mayor Dominic Persampiere, City of Oviedo
Mayor Dominic Persampiere, City of Oviedo, 400 Alexandria Boulevard, Oviedo, Florida: addressed those in
attendance and commented on promising joint Economic Development efforts and spoke of both cities working
together on proposed projects such as SEMATECH and a Hospital.
PUBLIC INPUT
No one spoke.
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REGULAR AGENDA
REGULAR
600. Update On The City Of Oviedo's Community Redevelopment Agency (CRA) Delegation Of Authority
Revisions With Seminole County.
Winter Springs was thanked for their assistance and support.
REGULAR
601. Update On The City Of Oviedo's Monetary Support For The Incubator And Name Change.
Mayor Lacey began the discussion on this Agenda Item.
Mayor Persampiere noted that he had been in contact with the University of Central Florida and suggested, "We
are just going to have to work through Seminole County's objections."
Discussion followed on the cities working together, and coming to each other's aid if necessary; emailing
Seminole County Commissioners with our concerns; that the City of Oviedo, the City of Winter Springs, and
Seminole County should all be equal partners; that the University of Central Florida could possibly approach
Seminole County; and communication issues.
Mayor Persampiere then suggested, "Why don't we pass this to the City Manager's to get all the details of the
Agreement." Further comments followed on the Agreement; and whether Seminole County had Approved it.
Commissioner Joanne M. Krebs mentioned, "Probably we should discuss it, possibly at the next Meeting or the
Meeting in December; so, we have the same facts that they do." Mayor Lacey noted, "We already have got our
Agenda published — I will bring it up under my seat."
With further comments, City Manager Kevin L. Smith then said, "I just want to make sure that I advise our
Commission, that in light of what we are discussing here, I have not yet executed an Agreement with UCF
(University of Central Florida), nor have I paid them the first seventy -five thousand dollars ($75,000.00)."
REGULAR
602. Interlocal Agreement For The Joint Economic Development Committee.
Manager Smith distributed copies of the City of Oviedo's Resolution Number 2253 -10 and a document entitled
"CITY OF OVIEDOXITY OF WINTER SPRINGS 1NTERLOCAL AGREEMENT RELATING TO A JOINT
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TASK FORCE ".
Much discussion ensued on the composition of the proposed Joint Economic Development Committee; partnering
with the University of Central Florida and Seminole County; including the Chamber of Commerce; number of
members; the Metro Orlando Economic Development Committee; citizens; and Ex Officio members.
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With further comments on Economic Development and efforts by Land Design Innovations, Inc., Mayor
Persampiere stated, "I do think like Deputy Mayor (Rick) Brown said and Deputy Mayor (Steve) Henken, "We
have got to bring this to the next level. This has to be folks who are not only so much committed but have a
broader idea of what Economic Development is; and Economic Development as we all know is the primary
business. SEMATECH is Economic Development. The Hospital is Economic Development, and "Best Buys" is
not." Mayor Lacey added that "Economic Development is better jobs and pay, and is not a strip mall."
Deputy Mayor Brown then spoke of the importance of selecting the right members with the right qualifications.
Related to the selection process by each City, Mayor Lacey suggested the Appointments should be by Consensus.
Commissioner Krebs commented, "I do agree with what Rick (Brown) is saying as far as picking the right people.
I think what we need to do is when we get to that point, if that is what we choose to do, to have a selection
process of three (3) people, that we in fact get - a resume, so to speak. Let us see what they have done, let us see -
how they are going to help us, and then we go through it as a Commission; not just the first person who hits the
button as you said."
Further discussion followed on the composition of the proposed Joint Economic Development Committee
Mr. John Jones, Land Design Innovations, Inc. 1770 Fennell Street, Suite 200, Maitland, Florida: stated, "The
point of the Economic Development Task Force is primary business recruitment; and so the thing you want to
keep in mind when you're discussing potential memberships of the EDTF (Economic Development Task Force) is
who participates in all of the primary industry recruitment activities in this area." Mr. Jones then referenced the
cities, Seminole County, area Colleges /Universities, and the Metro Orlando Economic Development Committee
as being involved in this process.
Commissioner Gary Bonner commented on Ex Officio members.
Mr. Jones then commented on the involvement of Seminole State College and the University of Central Florida
and said, "Those would be the two (2) entities that would provide the training that Commissioner Bonner is
referring to. The quick response training and implementation is one of the major incentive programs utilized by
the State of Florida - so, if you're going to have two (2) educational slots available, I would recommend
representation from Seminole State College and also representation from UCF (University of Central Florida);
because they can satisfy both sides of the QRT, (Quick Response Training) Program — services that could be
offered, and it would offer a wider range of Quick Response Services Training Programs that would be available
to potential companies coming in."
Discussion followed on the preferred number of members; that often smaller is better; whether the Sanford -
Orlando International Airport should be included; and having representatives from the regional development
community.
Tape 1 /Side B
The number of members was further addressed, with the suggestion that both Mayors be included.
Ms. Tracy Crowe, President, Land Design Innovations, Inc., 1770 Fennell Street, Suite 200, Maitland, Florida:
commented on possible members.
Membership was further addressed, along with issues related to representatives serving on this Committee and
then voting when an item would come before their agency.
Mr. John F. Bush, 21 Tarpon Circle, Winter Springs, Florida: commented on voting issues, possible members,
and members contributing significantly to the Economic Development Task Force.
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Mayor Persampiere inquired, "Does anyone have a problem with Mayor Bush being the Chair from any side of
the table ?" With no objections voiced, Mayor Lacey then said, "If we have six (6) members, Winter Springs is
going to Appoint John Bush - we have our Chair."
The Metro Orlando Economic Development Committee was addressed next.
Commissioner Jean Hovey and Commissioner Cade Resnick asked about representation from the schools on this
Committee. Further comments followed on the proposed membership of this Committee.
Continuing, Commissioner Krebs commented on Mr. Bush serving as the first Chair of the Joint Economic
Development Committee; and suggested that "The first two (2) years, he does the initial Chair and then after that,
it becomes a rotating Chair every year."
Mayor Persampiere stated, "Anybody have any problems ?" Mayor Lacey then noted, "The original Chair will be
Appointed for two (2) years, then alternate yearly after that."
Discussion followed on whether representatives from the Metro Orlando Economic Development Committee
should be able to Vote.
Mr. Richard Gestrich, City Manager, City of Oviedo, 400 Alexandria Boulevard, Oviedo, Florida: suggested, "If
you are going to - rotate every two (2) years and to then Appoint another Chair for one (1) year, you lose the
continuity."
Mayor Persampiere stated, "Anybody have any problems ?" No objections were voiced. Manager Smith
summarized, "Two (2) years."
Further discussion followed on Ex Officio members; the role that Seminole County members would serve; and
the At Large seats."
Manager Smith clarified, "It's UCF (Ed Jones, University Of Central Florida), UCF (Cynthia Sucher, University
Of Central Florida), Seminole State, Metro Orlando EDC (Economic Development Committee), Seminole
County, At Large Oviedo, At Large Winter Springs (John F. Bush)." Commissioner Krebs commented,
"Correct." Vice Mayor Henken remarked, "Exactly right."
Mr. Jones noted, "Seven (7) Voting, with three (3) Ex Officio's." Mayor Persampiere said, "Correct."
Continuing, Mayor Persampiere explained the Ex Officio's are the two (2) Mayors and the President of the
Chamber (of Commerce).
Mayor Persampiere remarked, "Then you are going to change the way the Chair rotates." Manager Smith
clarified, "Two (2) year rotating."
Commissioner Gary Bonner said, "Point of Clarification" and remarked, In the document in order to ensure the
citizens representations, I think always, the Chair should be Appointed by their respective Commissions — the
Chair comes from the citizens; meaning through the Commission of the City that it is representing. That
language needs to be embodied. "
With brief discussion, Manager Smith stated, "If everyone is okay with Commissioner Bonner's request, we will
put it in." No objections were voiced. Mayor Lacey added, "I think we are saying that Winter Springs has the
first Chair, so we are going to Appoint one (1) At Large position, respectively speaking, Mayor Bush."
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Commissioner Bonner added, "My point is that the Chair is always one (1) of the (2) At Large Appointees. One
(1) each from the respective City and therefore, it is assured that this organization is being led by the citizens that
it serves."
Mayor Lacey then confirmed, "We have Consensus on all that? That is composition."
Manager Smith commented, "I heard that there is now a two (2) year term for the Chair. Would you also presume
there are two (2) year terms for the members ?" Comments followed on possible staggered terms; and members
being Reappointed.
Mayor Lacey then said, "Each of our Commission counterparts are going have to Approve the documents in a
formal Meeting. Once the document is Approved, we will have to Appoint whoever our At Large is going to be."
City Attorney Anthony A. Garganese remarked, "On the non At Large Voting members; are those also being
Appointed by two (2) Councils, or are they being Appointed by the entities ?"
Mayor Persampiere commented, "They have to be Approved by the Councils, but my understanding is like
Seminole State (College), Metro EDC (Economic Development Committee), and Seminole County. We are
going to ask them to make their recommendation, then both Commissions are going to have to Approve."
Attorney Garganese then said, "So, they will make a formal nominee and that nominee would have to be
approved by both Councils in order to serve on the Task Force. Correct ?" No objections were noted.
Mayor Lacey mentioned, "We cannot obligate Ed Jones and Cynthia Sucher. UCF (University Of Central
Florida) is going to have to make that call. We can suggest it."
Manager Smith referred to page 11 of the "CITY OF OVIEDOXITY OF WINTER SPRINGS INTERLOCAL
AGREEMENT RELATING TO A JOINT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TASK FORCE" document and asked,
"Is everyone okay with the objectives and activities, basically the duties of the Board ?" There were no objections
voiced.
Tape 2 /Side A
Brief discussion followed on by -laws.
Attorney Garganese confirmed, "We added a provision in here that requires them to submit a brief annual report
in November of every year. That would be the appropriate time." Mayor Persampiere stated, "Exactly."
REGULAR
603. Discussion Of Joint Planning Agreement (With A Presentation By Mr. Bryan Cobb, Development
Services Director, City of Oviedo And Mr. Randy Stevenson, Stevenson, ASLA, AICP, Director,
Community Development Department, City of Winter Springs.)
Mr. Bryan Cobb, Director, Development Services, City of Oviedo, 400 Alexandria Boulevard, Oviedo, Florida:
introduced this Agenda Item for discussion.
Mr. Randy Stevenson, ASLA, AICP, Director, Community Development Department, also spoke on this Agenda
Item.
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Discussion followed on land owned by Seminole County, to which Mayor Persampiere remarked, "Just so
everybody in the room knows, we have offered to partner with them over at Winter Miles, if they want to take that
facility and move it over there. We have already partnered on the buying of land."
Continuing, Mayor Persampiere said, "Their basic reply to us was `Thanks, but we still think this is a viable
product." Mayor Persampiere added, "Just so everybody knows, it is on the Table. If you are talking to your
County Commissioners, they could move it three (3) miles east and we would be willing to have a conversation."
Manager Smith commented, "To Commissioner Bonner's point as including this in our plan and looking at what
we need to do." Mr. Stevenson noted, "Amendment 4 didn't pass, so this becomes much easier to include at a
later date." Manager Smith said to Mr. Stevenson, "You'll put that on your radar ?" Mr. Stevenson responded,
"Yes."
Further discussion.
Mr. Cobb commented, "Something that's not in there that we did do, is that we created a Mixed Use District. It
has Floor Area Ratio (FAR) of 1. And, so, we can go in and assign properties within the SeminoleWAY area to
that Mixed Use District, which would elevate - the Floor Area Ratio (FAR) to 1, along with us. The other thing
that we can look at is one of the things that's part of this process - is whether we want to create a common Land
Use that is shared between the two (2) cities; because one of the things you talked about was having the Floor
Area Ratio's (FAR's) be comparable to each other, and one of the ways of doing that is creating a common Land
Use between the two (2) cities. Creating a common Zoning District, creating as you talked about in your last
Meeting, creating a common development process to go with that."
Mr. Stevenson continued, "One of the first things we would be taking a look at in terms of the JPA (Joint
Planning Agreement), is working on getting not only the Comprehensive Plans synchronized, but also the review
process. We talked a little bit about having a single Land Use. I think it's important from a predictability
standpoint to whether they're looking at - something in Oviedo or something in Winter Springs. They know what
the Land Uses are; they know what the allowable densities are; they know what the process is. It's predictable to
them, and that's what we're going to be working on with your blessing, as we go forward with this JPA (Joint
Planning Agreement)."
Discussion.
Mr. Cobb explained, "We want to get your Consensus to just focus on the two (2) interchanges." Mr. Cobb
added, "The Floor Area Ratios (FAR's), the building heights, Land Use mixes; those primary things, focusing on
a common review Approval process." There were no objections.
Continuing, Mr. Cobb then said, "We're probably going to come back to you on occasions — and we're going to
ask you what your preference is on certain things, because what it is going to do, is give us guidance on how to
piece all this together. So, we're going to be coming to you on occasions to not only just update, but we want to
get you involved."
Mayor Lacey asked Mr. Stevenson, "Do you feel like you have gotten the direction you need to be able to put this
together ?" Mr. Stevenson replied, "Yes."
Mayor Lacey asked Manager Smith if he also agreed, to which Manager Smith explained that the City
Commission had stated their support.
Mr. Stevenson then summarized that the Elected Officials would be receiving a Preference Survey
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In other business, Mayor Lacey mentioned the City of Winter Springs' Veterans Day celebration which is being
held, Thursday, November 11, 2010, beginning at 6:00 p.m. at the Veterans Memorial in Winter Springs, at the
corner of Blumberg Boulevard and Tuskawilla Road.
ADJOURNMENT
Mayor Lacey adjourned the Joint Meeting with the City of Oviedo at 8:12 p.m.
RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED:
ANDREA LORENZO- LUACES, MMC
CITY CLERK
APPROVED:
MAYOR CHARLES LACEY
NOTE: These Minutes were approved at the 2010 Regular City Commission Meeting.
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CITY COMMISSION
MINUTES
.lOINT nIEETING WITH THE CITY OF OVIEDO
�VEDNESD�Y, NOVEI�iBER 10, 2010 - 6:00 P.l�i.
CITY HALL — COMMISSION CHAMBER�
1126 EAST ST,aTE ROAD -13-�, WINTER SPRiNG�
Mayor Charle� i �
Commissioner Jean Ho� �� - �eat t��,,°
Deputy Mayor Rick Brown - Seat �I �� u
Commissioner Gary Bonner - Seat Three
Commissioner Cade Resnick - Seat Four
Commissioner Joanne M. Krebs - Seat Fi�-e
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CALL TO ORDER
The Joint Workshop of Wednesday, November 10, 2010 of the City of Winter Springs' City Commission and the
City of Oviedo Citti� Council was called to Order by Mayor Charles Lacey at 6:18 p.m. in the West Conference
Room of the Municipal Building (City Hall, 1126 East State Road 434, Winter Springs, Florida 32708).
Roll Call:
May�or Charles Lacey, present
Deputy� Mayor Rick Brown, present
Commissioner Jean Hovey, present
Commissioner Gary Bonner, present
Commissioner Cade Resnick, present
Commissioner Joanne M. Krebs, present
City Manager Kevin L. Smith, present
City Attorney� Anthony A. Garganese, present
City of Oviedo:
Mayor pominic Persampiere, present
Deputy Mayor Steve Henken, present
Councilmember Cindy Drago, present
Councilmember Keith Britton, present
Councilmember Stephen Schenck, absent
City Manager Richard Gestrich, present
City Attorney Lonnie Groot, present
Welcome
Opening Remarks: Mayor Charles Lacey, City of Winter Springs
Mayor Lacey welcomed ever}�one, mentioned he was pleased that everyone could attend, and was hopeful that the
City� of Oviedo, the Uni��ersity of Central Florida, and the City of Winter Springs could have a good working
relationship.
Opening Remarks: Mayor pominic Persampiere, City of Oviedo
.'�im•or pominic Persampiere, City of Oviedo, ,t00 Alexandria Boulevard, Oviedo, Florida: addressed those in
attendance and commented on promising joint Economic Development efforts and spoke of both cities w�orking
together on proposed projects such as SEMATECH and a Hospital.
PUBLIC INPUT
No one spoke.
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REGULAR AGENDA
REGLZAR
600. Update On The City Of Oviedo's Community Redevelopment Ageucy (CRA) Delegation Of Authority
Revisions With Seminole County.
Winter Springs was thanked for their assistance and support.
REGL"L.�R
601. Update On T6e City Of Oviedds Monetary Support For The Incubator And Name Change.
Mayor Lacey� began the discussion on this Agenda Item.
Mayor Persampiere noted that he had been in contact with the University of Central Florida and suggested, "We
are just going to have to wrork through Seminole County�'s objections."
Discussion followed on the cities working together, and coming to each other's aid if necessary; emailing
Seminole Counry Commissioners with our concerns; that the City of Oviedo, the City of Winter Springs, and
Seminole County should all be equal partners; that the Universiry of Central Florida could possibly approach
Seminole County�; and communication issues.
Ma��or Persampiere then suggested, "Why� don't we pass this to the City Manager's to get all the details of the
Agreement." Further comments follov��ed on the Agreement; and whether Seminole County had Appro�ed it.
Commissioner Joanne M. Krebs mentioned, "Probably we should discuss it, possibly at the ne� Meeting or the
Meeting in December; so, w°e have the same facts that they do." Mayor Lacey noted, "We already� have got our
Agenda published — I w�ill bring it up under my� seat."
With further comments, City Manager Kevin L. Smith then said, "I just want to make sure that I ad�ise our
Commission, that in light of what we are discussing here, I have not yet executed an Agreement v�Tith UCF
(University� of Central Florida), nor have I paid them the first seventy-fi�e thousand dollars ($75,000.00)."
REGL'LaR
602. Interlocal Agreement For The Joint Economic Development Committee.
Manager Smith distributed copies of the City of Oviedo's Resolution Number 2253-10 and a document entitled
"CITY OF OVIEDO/CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT RELATING TO A JOINT
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TASK FORCE".
Much discussion ensued on the composition of the proposed Joint Economic Development Committee; partnering
�r�ith the University of Central Florida and Seminole County; including the Chamber of Commerce; number of
members; the Metro Orlando Economic Development Committee; citizens; and Ex Officio members.
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With further comments on Economic Development and efforts by Land Desigr► Inno��ations, Inc., Mayor
Persampiere stated, "I do think like Deputy Mayor (Rick) Brown said and Deputy Mayor (Steve) Henken, "We
ha��e got to bring this to the next level. This has to be folks who are not only so much committed but have a
broader idea of what Economic Development is; and Economic De��elopment as we all know is the primary
business. SEMATECH is Economic De��elopment. The Hospital is Economic Development, and "Best Buys" is
not." Mayor Lace�� added that "Economic De��elopment is better jobs and pay, and is not a strip mall."
Deputy Mayor Brov��n then spoke of the importance of selecting the right members with the right qualifications.
Related to the selection process by� each City, Mayor Lacey� suggested the Appointments should be by Consensus.
Commissioner Krebs commented, "I do agree with w�hat Rick (Brow�n) is saying as far as picking the right people.
I think what we need to do is w�hen w�e get to that point, if that is w�hat we choose to do, to have a selection
process of three (3) people, that w�e in fact get - a resume, so to speak. Let us see w�hat they have done, let us see -
how they are going to help us, and then we go through it as a Commission; not just the first person who hits the
button as y�ou said."
Further discussion followed on the composition of the proposed Joint Economic Development Committee.
:Yir. John Jones, Land Design Innol�ations, Inc. 1770 Fennell Street, Suite 200, :�4faitland, Florida.• stated, "Tl�e
point of the Economic Development Task Force is primary� business recruitment; and so the thing y�ou want to
keep in mind when �rou're discussing potential memberships of the EDTF (Economic De��elopment Task Force) is
v�rho participates in all of the primary industry recruitment acti��ities in this area." Mr. Jones then referenced the
cities, Seminole County�. area Colleges/LJniversities, and the Metro Orlando Economic Development Committee
as being involved in this process.
Commissioner Gar�r Bonner commented on Ex Officio members.
Mr. Jones then commented on the in��olvement of Seminole State College and the University of Central Florida
and said, "Those would be the two (2) entities that would provide the training that Commissioner Bonner is
refemng to. The quick response training and implementation is one of the major incentive programs utilized bv
the State of Florida - so, if you're going to ha��e two (2) educational slots available, I would recommend
representation from Seminole State College and also representation from UCF (University� of Central Florida);
because they can satisfy both sides of the QRT, (Quick Response Training) Program — ser��ices that could be
offered, and it w�ould offer a wider range of Quick Response Services Training Programs that v�rould be available
to potential campanies coming in."
Discussion followed on the preferred number of inembers; that often smaller is better; whether the Sanford-
Orlando International Airport should be included; and having representatives from the regional development
community.
Tape 1/Side B
The number of inembers w�as further addressed, with the suggestion that both Mayors be included.
?I�ls. Tracy Crowe, President, Land Design Innovations, Inc., 1770 Fennell Street, Suite 200, ?Llaitland, Florida:
commented on possible members.
Membership was further addressed, along w�ith issues related to representatives serving on this Committee and
then voting when an item would come before their agenc}�.
?ITr. John F. Bush, 21 Tarpon Circle, Winter Springs, Florida.• commented on voting issues, possible members,
and members contributing significantly to the Economic Development Task Force.
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Ma}�or Persampiere inquired, "Does any�one have a problem with Mayor Bush being the Chair from any side of
the table?" With no objections ��oiced, Mayor Lacey then said, "If we have six (6) members, Winter Springs is
going to Appoint John Bush - we have our Chair."
The Metro Orlando Economic Development Committee was addressed next.
Commissioner Jean Hovey and Commissioner Cade Resnick asked about representation from the schools on this
Committee. Further comments follow�ed on the proposed membership of this Committee.
Continuing, Commissioner Krebs commented on Mr. Bush ser��ing as the first Chair of the Joint Economic
Development Committee; and suggested that "The first two (2) years, he does the initial Chair and then after that,
it becomes a rotating Chair every yrear."
Ma}�or Persampiere stated, "Any�body have any problems?" Mayor Lacey then noted, "The original Chair will be
Appointed for two (2) years, then alternate yearly after that."
Discussion followed on whether representatives from the Metro Orlando Economic Development Committee
should be able to Vote.
��l�lr. Richard Gestrich, Cit}� Manager, City of O►=iedo, -100 Alexandria Boulevard, O��iedo, Florida: suggested, "If
vou are going to - rotate every� two (2) years and to then Appoint another Chair for one (1) year, y�ou lose the
continuit}r."
Mayor Persampiere stated, '`Anr•body have any problems?" No objections were ��oiced. Manager Smith
summarized, "Tw�o (2) years."
Further discussion follov��ed on Ex Officio members; the role that Seminole Counry members w�ould ser�re; and
the At Large seats."
Manager Smith clarified, "It's UCF (Ed Jones, Uni��ersity Of Central Florida), UCF (Cy�nthia Sucher, Universiry
Of Central Florida), Seminole State, Metro Orlando EDC (Economic Development Committee), Seminole
County, At Large Oviedo, At Large Winter Springs (John F. Bush)." Commissioner Krebs commented,
"Conect." Vice Ma}'or Henken remarked, "Exactly right."
Mr. Jones noted, "Se��en (7) Voting, with three (3) Ex Officio's." Ma}�or Persampiere said, "Correct."
Continuing, Mayor Persampiere explained the Ex Officio's are the two (2) Mayors and the President of the
Chamber (of Commerce).
Ma}ror Persampiere remarked, "Then you are going to change the way the Chair rotates." Manager Smith
clarified, "Two (2) yeaz rotating."
Commissioner Gary Bonner said, "Point of Clariftcation " and remarked, "In the document in order to ensure the
CIIZ �ens representations, I think always, the Chair should be Appointed by their respective Commissions — the
Chair comes from the citizens; meaning through the Commission of the City that it is representing. That
language needs to be embodied. "
With brief discussion, Manager Smith stated, "If e��ery�one is okay� with Commissioner Bonner's request, we will
put it in." No objections w�ere �roiced. Mayor Lacey added, "I think we are sayring that Winter Springs has the
first Chair, so we are going to Appoint one (1) At Large position, respectively speaking, Mayor Bush."
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Commissioner Bonner added, "My point is that the Chair is always one (1) of the (2) At Large Appointees. One
(1) each from the respective City and therefore, it is assured that this organization is being led by the citizens that
it serves."
Ma}�or Lacey then confirmed, "We ha�e Consensus on all that? That is composition."
Manager Smith commented, "I heard that there is now� a two (2) year term for the Chair. Would y�ou also presume
there are two (2) y�ear terms for the members?" Comments followed on possible staggered terms; and members
being Reappointed.
Mayor Lacey then said, "Each of our Commission counterparts are going ha��e to Appro<<e the documents in a
formal Meeting. Once the document is Approved, w�e will have to Appoint whoever our At Large is going to be."
City Attorney Anthony� A. Garganese remarked, "On the non At L,arge Voting members; are those also being
Appointed by� tvvo (2) Councils, or are they being Appointed by the entities?"
Mayor Persampiere commented, "They have to be Appro�ed by the Councils, but my understanding is like
Seminole State (College), Metro EDC (Economic De��elopment Committee), and Seminole County. We are
going to ask them to make their recommendation. then both Commissions are going to have to Appro��e."
Attorney Garganese then said, "So, they will make a formal nominee and that nominee ��rould ha��e to be
appro��ed by both Councils in order to ser��e on the Task Force. Correct?" No objections were noted.
Mayor Lacey mentioned, "We cannot obligate Ed Jones and Cynthia Sucher. UCF (Uni��ersity Of Central
Florida) is going to ha�e to make that call. We can suggest it."
Manager Smith referred to page 11 of the "CITY OF OVIEDO/CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS INTERLOCAL
AGREEMENT RELATING TO A JOINT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TASK FORCE" document and asked,
"Is everyone okay w�ith the objecti��es and acti�ities, basically the duties of the Board?" There were no objections
voiced.
Tape 2rSide A
Brief discussion followed on by-laws.
Attorne}� Garganese confirmed, "We added a pro�ision in here that requires them to submit a brief annual report
in No��ember of e��ery year. That would be the appropriate time." Mayor Persampiere stated, "Exactly."
REGL'LAR
603. Discussion Of Joint Planning Agreement (With A Presentation By Mr. Bryan Cob6, Development
Sen�ices Director, City of Oviedo And Mr. Randy Stevenson, Stevenson, ASLA, AICP, Director,
Community Development Department, City of Winter Springs.)
11Tr. Br��an Cobb, Director, Development Sen}ices, City of Oviedo, �00 Alexandria Boulevard, Oviedo, Florida:
introduced this Agenda Item for discussion.
Mr. Randy Stevenson, ASLA, AICP, Director, Community Development Department, also spoke on this Agenda
Item.
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Discussion follow�ed on land owned by Seminole County, to which Mayor Persampiere remarked, "Just so
every-body in the room knows, w�e ha��e offered to parmer with them over at Winter Miles, if they want to take that
facility and mo�re it over there. We ha��e already partnered on the buying of land."
Continuing, Ma}�or Persampiere said, "Their basic reply� to us was `Thanks, but w�e still think this is a viable
product." Mayor Persampiere added, "Just so everybody knows, it is on the Table. If you are talking to yrour
County Commissioners, they could move it three (3) miles east and we w�ould be willing to have a conversation."
Manager Smith commented, "To Commissioner Bonner's point as including this in our plan and looking at w�hat
�ire need to do." Mr. Stevenson noted, "Amendment 4 didn't pass, so this becomes much easier to include at a
later date." Manager Smith said to Mr. Ste��enson, "You'll put that on your radar?" Mr. Stevenson responded,
'`Yes.
Further discussion.
Mr. Cobb commented, "Something that's not in there that we did do, is that we created a Mixed Use District. It
has Floor Area Ratio (FAR) of 1. And, so, we can go in and assign properties within the SeminoleWAY area to
that Mixed Use District, �vhich ���ould elevate - the Floor Area Ratio (FAR) to 1, along w�ith us. The other thing
that we can look at is one of the things that's part of this process - is whether we want to create a common Land
Use that is shared bettir�een the two (2) cities; because one of the things }�ou talked about was having the Floor
Area Ratio's (FAR's) be comparable to each other, and one of the w�ay�s of doing that is creating a common Land
Use between the tw-o (2) cities. Creating a common Zoning District, creating as you talked about in }�our last
Meeting, creating a common de��elopment process to go ��ith that."
h'1r. Ste��enson continued, "One of the first things we would be taking a look at in terms of the JPA (Joint
Planning Agreement), is wrorking on getting not only� the Comprehensive Plans synchronized, but also the re�Tiew
process. We talked a little bit about having a single Land Use. I think it's important from a predictability
standpoint to �hether the��'re looking at - something in O��iedo or something in Winter Springs. They know what
the Land Uses are; they know- what the allowable densities are; thev know w�hat the process is. It's predictable to
them, and that's what w�e're going to be working on with y�our blessing, as we go forward w�ith this JPA (Joint
Planning Agreement)."
Discussion.
Mr. Cobb explained, "We want to get your Consensus to just focus on the two (2) interchanges." Mr. Cobb
added, "The Floor Area Ratios (FAR's), the building heights, Land Use mixes; those primary things, focusing on
a common re��iew Approval process." There were no objections.
Continuing, Mr. Cobb then said, "We're probably going to come back to you on occasions — and we're going to
ask you what your preference is on certain things, because what it is going to do, is give us guidance on how to
piece all this together. So, we're going to be coming to you on occasions to not only just update, but we want to
get you involved."
Mayor Lacey asked Mr. Stevenson, "Do you feel like y�ou have gotten the direction y�ou need to be able to put this
together?" Mr. Stevenson replied, "Yes."
May�or Lacey� asked Manager Smith if he also agreed, to which Manager Smith explained that the City
Commission had stated their support.
Mr. Stevenson then summarized that the Elected Officials would be recei�ring a Preference Sur�rey.
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In other business, Mayor Lacey mentioned the Cit�� of Winter Springs' Veterans Day� celebration w�hich is being
held, Thursday, November 11, 2010, beginning at 6:00 p.m. at the Veterans Memorial in Winter Springs, at the
corner of Blumberg Boulevard and Tuskaw�illa Road.
ADJOURNMENT
Mayor Lacev adjourned the Joint Meeting with the City� of O��iedo at 8:12 p.m.
RESPECTFL'LLY SL'B��IITTED:
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A LORENZO-LUACES, MMC
CITY CLERK
APPROVED:
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1VIA OR CHA � �:�CEY
NOTE: These Minutes were approved at the December 13, 2010 Regular Cit� Commission Meeting.