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COMMISSION AGENDA
ITEM 503
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PUBLIC HEARING
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November 22,2004
Meeting
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REQUEST: The Community Development Department recommends the City
Comrnission consider and provide direction regarding the proposed conceptual
architectural rendering for Bruster's Ice Cream.
PURPOSE: The purpose of this agenda item is to consider and provide direction to the
applicant and staff regarding a conceptual architectural rendering (the applicant's response
to the City Commission's comments of September 20, 2004) for a Bruster's Ice Cream
shop at the southeast corner of SR 434 and Costa Rica Road (the site has C-l zoning and is
within the SR 434 Redevelopment ()verlay Zoning District).
APPLICABLE LAW AND PUBLIC POLICY:
Chapter 9- Land Development.
Chapter 20, Article III, Division 7, Sections 20 - 231 thru 20 - 238- C-l Commercial
Zoning District.
Chapter 20, Article VI. Division 3- General Design Standards for Redevelopment Area,
Sections 20 - 480 tbru 20 - 490.
CONSIDERATIONS: The applicant submitted final engineering/site plans for
development of the 1.36 acre site on May 15 and learned at the May 18 DRC that any
drive-thru must be adequately screened from SR 434. At the May 24, 2004, City
Commission Meeting, Commissioners Miller and Blake inquired about the proposed
Brusters (in response to the summary in Infonnation 300). Staff alerted the applicant's
team of the Commission concerns. The applicant subsequently requested to have the City
Commission critique the plans conceptually, before proceeding with final engineering.
At the September 20, 2004, City Commission meeting (Regular Agenda Item 504), the
City Commission provided direction to the applicant. The following items were addressed:
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(1) providing a brick wall with windows (even false windows) along the west side of the
building and cooler - incorporating the cooler into the building; (2) providing a door on the
SR 434 side, to allow customers to enter the building (for example, to use the restrooms);
(3) providing a durable material along the corners and/or top band of the building (not
wood); (4) providing any exposed roof in a "copper penny" color - roof to slope to the rear
if possible; (5) providing the canopy across the entire front and along both sides of the
building; and (6) providing windows along the brick walls on the SR 434 side and west
side (even false windows), particularly in the west corner of the SR 434 side. These issues
are stated in the attached minutes.
The applicant has met with the City Manager and Community Development staff, to
ensure that he is following the Commission's directives. As a result, his design team has
provided the attached renderings of the front (SR 434 side) and west (Costa Rica Drive)
sides of the building.
The building is depicted with the brick wall extending around the cooler, with false
windows on the northwest side of the SR 434 frontage as well as on the west side (false
windows where the cooler and janitorial closet are located). A transparent door is provided
along the SR 434 side. A solid door is provided on the west side, providing access to the
janitorial closet. The applicant's team must address the durability of the trim material, as
that is not specified on the rendering. The awning appears somewhat the color of a
"copper penny." No indication has been provided regarding the slope of the roof. The
building mounted single tenant identification signage appears to be larger than the
maximum allowed 16 square feet, set forth in Section 20-486 of the Code (any variation
must be addressed through a development agreement, waiver, or variance).
STAFF RECOMMENDATION: Staff recommends that the City Commission
(1) approve and provide direction as to the general conceptual layout (only) of the
proposed site, but that nothing in the conceptual approval over-ride any applicable Code
provision (including signage) and (2) that a detailed aesthetic review come back to the
Commission for review with the final engineering/site plan.
ATTACHMENTS:
Attachment A -Attachment B - September 20, 2004, Minutes
Revised Architectural Rendering (building only)
COMMISSION ACTION:
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Attachment A -
Excerpt from September 20, 2004 Commission Minutes
REGULAR
504. Community Development Department
Recommends The City Commission Consider And Provide Direction Regarding The Proposed Conceptual Site Plan And Architectural
Rendering For Bruster's Ice Cream.
Mr. Baker began this Agenda Item with his opening comments.
Deputy Mayor Miller spoke for the Record of vehicles having to possibly make a U-turn.
Tape 2/Side B
Discussion.
Mr. Albert E. Ford II, Esquire, Ford and Brueggeman, P.A., 270 Waymont Court, Suite 100,
Lake Mary, Florida: addressed the City Commission and introduced his colleagues involved
with this proposed project.
Commissioner McGinnis spoke of her impressions with the proposed rendering and stated,
"This just is not very attractive, so that is why I asked my question about the aesthetics. I am
looking forward to some more details, colors, materials - and landscaping."
Mr. David Delgado, Castlerock Construction Company, 1632 North Ronald Reagan
Boulevard, Longwood, Florida: stated, "The building for instance is faced down below the
windows in brick, and it's real brick. It's not painted on or faux brick; and the roof of a typical
Bruster's is a Canopy, a red Canopy. Everybody knows that Canopies require maintenance,
and sometimes after years, they don't look so hot, or maybe after a couple of hurricanes, they
look really bad; so - above the Standing Seam Metal Roof, we have a synthetic stucco product.
It's 'EFIS' - it is a very commonly used exterior siding material, like most of the Town Center
is constructed using synthetic stucco; and so the colorings, we don't have color palette
established, but you can be certain that whatever we propose would come before the
Commission or whoever is in charge of approving the colors, to make sure that they're earth
tone, pleasing colors. We'll coordinate the roof with the area above the roof - the parapet wall
area, and, so we're trying to take a basic standard building and upgrade it to what we believe
the aesthetic review standards are trying to achieve. That would be our goal."
Regarding the proposed landscaping, Mr. Delgado noted, "There are trees scheduled to be
planted just in front of - here - there are actually going to be three (3) trees, that the Artist
didn't show - all three (3); and we do have the Landscape plan full of attractive trees that will
survive well. The dumpster area is well screened around the dumpster enclosure and in fact,
the entire property has a landscape buffer from the road."
Commissioner Blake said, "According to the plan that you included, it shows the entire west
wall which would be the right half of the building that we see here, would be the Cooler, and it
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shows in the drawing that the Cooler would go for the entire length or depth - of the building.
Are those artificial or faux windows there on the right hand side?"
With further discussion, Commissioner Blake stated, "So that means if you're driving down
[State Road] 434 from up here, driving down, that you are going to see a brick wall and the
half a brick wall here. There will be no windows on this side..." Mr. Delgado stated,
"... Correct..." Commissioner Blake continued, "... ()r on this half, which means the folks that
are driving up - coming up Costa Rica [Drive] will see - a plain brick wall, except for the
drive-thru apparatus..." Mr. Delgado stated, "... Correct - plus landscaping. And we could
also do some - possibly put some urban streetscape back here to - soften up that."
Furthermore, Commissioner Blake stated, "I don't see a door to that restroom either. If it is
accessible from the outside, you would expect to see a door here, in the drawing. I don't see
one there. My concern would be the big expanse, the large expanse plain brick wall- that gets
it kind of warehousy, and I would hope to see, when it comes back, something to address this
side over here where the Cooler is, and to open this end up a little bit back here."
Commissioner Blake added, "I would like to see something more hardscape that shows life,
than just the plants, because sometimes plants don't do so well." Mr. Delgado suggested,
"There are some opportunities perhaps for some architectural features, some faux things..."
Commissioner McLeod asked Mr. Delgado, "Why aren't we enclosing that Cooler as part of
the building?" Discussion. Furthermore, Commissioner McLeod said, "On this comer, is this
wood?" Mr. Delgado replied, "Probably should be a brick, but honestly, I don't recall." With
discussion, Commissioner McLeod suggested this not be wood. Mr. Delgado then said, "Or it
could be an 'EFIS'." Mr. Delgado added, "Or it could be a stucco band, or something that
won't deteriorate."
With further discussion, Commissioner McLeod suggested, "One of the roofs you might look
at is a copper penny look." Commissioner McGinnis added, "I like that." Additionally,
Commissioner McLeod noted, "I am really absolutely not in favor of that - for the sides of that
building for that - big brick exposure on the side of the [State Road] 434, nor would the
Canopy on [State Road] 434, stopping half way down the building, and going away. It looks
like coming from the west, heading east - you are coming into the back side of the building."
Commissioner McLeod added, "I don't think you are positioned right at all."
Next, Commissioner McLeod suggested, "I think the Cooler needs to be incorporated into part
of that building, and the Canopy run - at least three (3) sides of the building, that are seen."
On the issue of parking spaces, Deputy Mayor Miller stated, "You have got too many parking
spaces." Furthermore, Deputy Mayor Miller stated, "I agree with the comments made by
Commissioner McLeod about the building."
Commissioner Gilmore asked about the Cooler. Mr. Delgado stated, "It has metal sides."
Commissioner Gilmore then asked, "What is the exterior of it?" Mr. Delgado responded,
"We're proposing to face it in brick and 'EFIS' - similar to the building." Then, Commissioner
Gilmore asked, "Is this a six foot (6') high walk-in Cooler or a seven foot (7') high walk-in
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Cooler and what you are going to have is something that looks like a shed attached to a
building." Mr. Delgado noted, "I understand your concern, and it's something I'd have to go
look at the building design, because we haven't finalized the building design." Mr. Delgado
then said, "The concern is the look of the walk-in Cooler and the Elevation looking from west
to east, I think. And, so we'll be sure to address that."
Mr. Ayube (Benson) Kahn, 1464 Wescott Loop, Winter Springs, Florida: spoke on his
proposed ice cream store.
Commissioner McLeod noted, "The main thing I think is that you have got to do something
with that [State Road] 434; and - the Cooler needs to be gone." Commissioner McLeod
suggested, "Rather than building two (2) walls, the outside wall, and then building a wall for
the Cooler, you may be better off just building the Cooler inside the building." With further
discussion, Commissioner McLeod noted, "We don't want to see your metal Cooler - put a
wall around it."
Mayor Bush suggested, "I think one of things that would help when it comes back is that you
would have Artist's Renderings of the different sides of the building."
Mr. Thomas H. Skeleton, P.E., American Civil Engineers, Inc., 207 North Moss Road, Suite
211, Winter Springs, Florida: spoke on this project and a previous plan showing a different
orientation of the building.
With further discussion, Commissioner McLeod suggested, "If you wrap your building,
basically with that awning on the three (3) sides, and put the Cooler under the roof, with the
brick, you resolve the problem of that Site Plan." Commissioner McLeod added, "You could
put a bed - right in here, and put some greenery in there. That is what should be done."
Commissioner Blake then recommended, "If you put one of those windows on the comer right
here - like what they have over at our Town Center, - it is not a real window - I think those
two (2) items, what Commissioner McLeod just said, and add that window." Furthermore,
Commissioner McLeod suggested, "If possible, you slope this roof back this way."
Mayor Bush called a Recess at 9:36 p.m.
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Attachment B -
Revised Architectural Rendering (building only)
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