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COMMISSION AGENDA
ITEM 207
Consent X
Informational
Public Hearings
Regular
November 8~ 2004
Regular Meeting
Mgr. / Dept.
Authorization
CONSENT
207. Office Of The City Clerk
Requesting Approval Of The October 25, 2004 City Commission Regular Meeting
Minutes.
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CALL TO ORDER
The Regular Meeting of Monday, October 25,2004 of the City Commission was called to
order by Deputy Mayor Robert S. Miller at 6:36 p.m. in the Commission Chambers of the
Municipal Building (City Hall, 1126 East State Road 434, Winter Springs, Florida
32708).
ROLL CALL:
Mayor John F. Bush, absent
Deputy Mayor Robert S. Miller, Jr., present
Commissioner Michael S. Blake, present
Commissioner Donald A. Gilmore, present
Commissioner Sally McGinnis, present
Commissioner David W. McLeod, present
City Manager Ronald W. McLemore, present
City Attorney Anthony A. Garganese, present
A moment of silence was held, followed by the Pledge of Allegiance.
PUBLIC INPUT
Mr. Vincent Murphy, 245 East Panama Road, Winter Springs, Florida: did not address
the City Commission, however, Deputy Mayor Miller said, "You are 'Opposed' - so
noted."
CONSENT AGENDA
CONSENT
200. Office Of The City Attorney
Requests The City Commission Approve The 28th Annual Central Florida Scottish
Festival And Highland Games Permit Agreement.
There was no discussion on this Agenda Item.
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CONSENT
201. Utility Department
Requesting Approval For Emergency Repair To The Generator Engine That
Supplies Emergency Power To Water Plant #3 And Lift Station #7.
No discussion.
CONSENT
202. Parks And Recreation Department
Requesting Authorization To Piggyback Off The Orange County Contract #02-03-
11 VH For A John Deere 5325 Tractor.
This Agenda Item was not discussed.
CONSENT
203. Parks And Recreation Department
Requesting Authorization To Piggyback Off The Florida State Contract #515-630-
03-01 For A Toro Versa-Vac Sweeper.
There was no discussion on this Agenda Item.
CONSENT
204. Parks And Recreation Department
Requesting Authorization To Piggyback Off The Florida State Contract #515-630-
03-01 For Two (2) John Deere Mid Z Mowers.
No discussion.
CONSENT
205. Parks And Recreation Department
Requesting The City Commission To Authorize The City Manager To Apply For A
Recreational Development Assistance Program Grant For Magnolia Park On
Behalf Of The City Of Winter Springs.
This Agenda Item was not discussed.
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CONSENT
206. Office Of The City Attorney
Requesting The City Commission Approve The Disaster Relief Funding Agreements
Between The State Of Florida, Department Of Community Affairs And The City Of
Winter Springs And Adopt A Resolution Appointing The City Manager As The
City's Authorized Agent Under The Agreement.
Brief discussion.
CONSENT
207. Office Of The City Clerk
Requesting Approval Of The October 4, 2004 City Commission Special Meeting
Minutes.
There was no discussion on this Agenda Item.
CONSENT
208. Office Of The City Clerk
Requesting Approval Of The October 11, 2004 City Commission Regular Meeting
Minutes.
No discussion.
ADD-ON
CONSENT
209. Public Works Department
Requesting Supplemental Appropriation For The Replacement Of The City Hall
Fire Station Air Conditioning Unit.
This Agenda Item was not discussed.
"I MAKE A MOTION TO PASS CONSENT AGENDA." MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER BLAKE. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS.
DISCUSSION.
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VOTE:
COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
INFORMATIONAL AGENDA
IN FORMA TIONAL
300. Community Development Department
Advising The City Commission Of The Status Of Various Current Planning
Projects.
No discussion.
INFORMATIONAL
301. Not Used
This Agenda Item was not discussed.
INFORMATIONAL
302. Public Works Department - Urban Beautification Division
Requesting The Commission Review Photos Of Landscape Improvements To The
George Street Greenbelt Areas.
There was no discussion on this Agenda Item.
INFORMATIONAL
303. Finance Department And Parks And Recreation Department
Wishes To Inform The City Commission About The Revenue And Expenses Of The
Concession Stand.
With discussion, Commissioner Sally McGinnis stated, "I just think that is great."
Furthermore, Commissioner McGinnis noted, "I think that Parks and Recreation have
done a great job - I think this is a very good document."
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INFORMATIONAL
304. Public Works Department
Advising The City Commission Of The Status Of Various Capital Improvement
Projects.
Discussion.
INFORMATIONAL
305. Parks And Recreation Department
Requests That The City Commission Review Information From The Senior Citizen
Center Annual General Membership Meeting And Treasurer's Report.
Commissioner Donald A. Gilmore mentioned the "Are you OK?" Program and asked if
"The people are aware of that Program, and maybe we need some publicity on it to let
people know that it is available." Mr. Chuck Pula, Parks and Recreation Department
Director stated, "I will be glad to pass that on to the Senior Association and I will work
with them to do that." Commissioner Michael S. Blake added, "The Website would be
good place to put some of that information also, as well as - the 'Vial for Life.' I think
the Fire Department has some information on that too." City Manager Ronald W.
McLemore stated, "Okay."
"I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE INFORMATIONAL" AGENDA.
MOTION BY COMMISSIONER McLEOD. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER
BLAKE. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
.:..:. AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING PUBLIC HEARINGS AGENDA
ITEM WAS DISCUSSED NEXT, FOLLOWED BY THE REST OF THE
AGENDA, AS DOCUMENTED. .:. .:.
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PUBLIC HEARINGS AGENDA
PUBLIC HEARINGS
406. Community Development Department
Presents To The City Commission An APPEAL Of The Denial Of A Variance
Request From The Requirements Of Section 9-3. Of The City Code, To Allow
Further Subdivision Of A Platted Lot, Pursuant To The Criteria Set Forth In
Section 9-5. The Property Is Located Generally At The Northeast Corner Of
Panama Road And South Moss Road.
Ms. Eloise Sahlstrom, AICP, ASLA, Senior Planner, Community Development
Department introduced this Agenda Item.
Discussion ensued on the plot plan and the length of the curve, to which Commissioner
Gilmore noted, "It sure would be nice to see that in this drawing."
Discussion.
Ms. Rebecca Furman, Attorney, Lowndes Drosdick Doster Kantor & Reed, P.A., 215
North Eola Drive, Orlando, Florida: addressed the City Commission on behalf of her
client, Reverend Neil R. Backus, D.D.
Discussion.
Deputy Mayor Miller opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
Mr. Philip F. Bonus, Esquire, Fishback, Dominick, Bennett, Stepter, Ardaman, Ahlers &
Bonus LLP, 170 East Washington Street, Orlando, Florida: representing his clients, Mr.
and Mrs. Richard and Cathy Murphy of 255 East Panama Street, Mr. Bonus noted their
opposition to the proposed lot split.
Mr. Daniel W Langly, Esquire, Fishback, Dominick, Bennett, Stepter, Ardaman, Ahlers
& Bonus LLP, 170 East Washington Street, Orlando, Florida: also spoke on behalf of
other residents he represented who also were opposed to this proposed lot split; and
referenced Section 9.3. of the Code.
Tape I/Side B
Mr. Langly then noted the original Plat "As evidence".
Further discussion.
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Mr. Thomas Skelton, 325 Hayes Road, Winter Springs, Florida: speaking as the
Engineer who designed the Sanitary Sewer System for Reverend Backus in 1997, and as
a resident of the Ranchlands; Mr. Skelton spoke in favor of the proposed lot split.
Ms. Sandra L. Ruiz, 231 Triplet Lake Drive, Casselberry, Florida: spoke in favor of the
lot split and noted she is interested in purchasing two (2) of the lots in question.
Mr. Michael Darwin, 130 East Tradewinds Road, Winter Springs, Florida: asked the
City Commission to protect the area and spoke in support of Staffs Findings.
Ms. Alisa Harper, 120 East Panama Road, Winter Springs, Florida: as a neighbor to the
property in question, Ms. Harper spoke against the proposed lot split.
Mr. Paul Rosu, 2106 Kilamanjaro Court, Apopka, Florida: noted his interest in
purchasing the land from Reverend Backus and asked that this proposed lot split be
approved.
Ms. Torrence Ashton Collins, 626 Sailfish Road, Winter Springs, Florida: asked that the
City Commission not approve the proposed lot split.
Ms. Cathy Murphy, 255 East Panama Road, Winter Springs, Florida: opposed the
proposed lot split; and spoke of a Petition with names of individuals that were opposed to
the proposed lot split.
Reverend Neil R. Backus, D.D., 110 East Panama Road, Winter Springs, Florida: spoke
in favor of the property in question; noted his Title Insurance; and a Petition he provided
to the City.
Ms. Elsie Bledsoe, 180 East Panama Road, Winter Springs, Florida: remarked that she
was in favor of Reverend Backus' request.
Ms. Jo Bush, 125 East Bahama Road, Winter Springs, Florida: noted her opposition to
the proposed lot split; and spoke of being an original Ranchlands Property Owner.
Mr. Vincent Murphy, 255 East Panama Road, Winter Springs, Florida: noted efforts to
subdivide the land; keeping horses; and noted he strongly opposed Reverend Backus'
proposed lot split.
Mr. Paul Kenny, 256 East Panama Road, Winter Springs, Florida: commented on the
quality of the Ranchlands and asked the City Commission to support the community as it
IS.
Ms. Furman again addressed the City Commission and spoke on behalf of the Variance
Request.
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Discussion.
Commissioner David W. McLeod suggested the following scenario to Mr. John Baker,
AICP, Senior Planner, Community Development Department: "I have got fifteen (15)
acres and I have got a neighbor who has got forty (40) acres. They can split it once - it
gives them twenty (20) acres twice, but - for the - remaining twenty (20) acres, they
cannot bring a subdivision plat in on that twenty (20) acres and have that twenty (20)
acres platted as a subdivision?" Commissioner McLeod then said to City Attorney
Anthony A. Garganese, "Are you working on the fact of changing that as I asked, six (6)
months ago?"
Tape 2/Side A
With discussion, Commissioner McLeod said to Attorney Garganese, "Please come back
with information on these larger parcels." Attorney Garganese noted, "Under 'Reports', I
was going to go over the 'Waiver' provision that - the Commission directed to be
prepared, regarding the Zoning, which could be applicable to situations like this, as well -
the Draft Ordinance that you are talking about has been referred to Planning and Zoning
Board[lLocal Planning Agency] for review and recommendation."
Discussion.
Deputy Mayor Miller closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
Further discussion.
"MY MOTION - I DO NOT BELIEVE THE APPLICANT HAS BROUGHT
AMPLE PROOF OF THE REASONS FOR APPROV AL, THEREFORE, I
WOULD DENY THE VARIANCE ON '406'." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER
McLEOD. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BLAKE. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Deputy Mayor Miller called a Recess at 8:32 p.m.
The Meeting reconvened at 8:43 p.m.
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PUBLIC HEARINGS
~ 400. Community Development.Department - Planning Division And Office Of The
City Attorney
Request The City Commission Conduct A Public Hearing For 2nd (Second) Reading
And Adoption Of Ordinance 2004-39, Annexing 13 (Thirteen) Parcels Containing
21.679 Acres, More Or Less.
Attorney Garganese read the Ordinance by "Title" only.
Commissioner Gilmore returned to the Commission Chambers at 8:45 p.m.
Ms. Sahlstrom introduced her opening remarks on this Agenda Item.
Attorney Garganese noted, "I did receive a telephone call late this afternoon from Rob
Gerbaide, if you recall, he was the Attorney representing the Ondicks and he indicated
that the Ondicks and himself will not be at tonight's Commission Meeting, and he had
asked that the City expeditiously Rezone the Ondicks' property to 'Town Center,' as
soon as possible. So, I took that to mean that they are not objecting to this Annexation;
and also, Commissioner McLeod as you know, needs to declare a - Voting Conflict of
Interest on this, because he is a Principal in the corporation, Highlander, LTD."
Commissioner McLeod stated, "I do have to abstain from voting" and noted for the
record that the tenants of this subject property are no longer on the property.
Commissioner Blake then spoke of a Solid Waste Interlocal Agreement and said that it
"Would allow their Contractor or themselves to continue to provide services for some
period of time, a phase-out if you will, because of capacities that they have either been
applied for or contracted for or provided for." Commissioner Blake added, "I just wanted
to make sure they were in compliance with any Agreements that may be in existence
there. "
Deputy Mayor Miller opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
Mr. Stephen Lee, Esquire, Deputy County Attorney for Seminole County, 1101 East First
Street, Sanford, Florida: spoke of Registered Electors of the subject property.
Deputy Mayor Miller closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
"I MOVE WE ADOPT ORDINANCE 2004-39." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER
McGINNIS. SECONDED. DISCUSSION.
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VOTE:
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER McLEOD: ABSTAINED
MOTION CARRIED.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
401. Community Development Department - Planning Division
Requests The City Commission Conduct A Public Hearing For The 2nd (Second)
Reading And Adoption Of Ordinance 2004-48, Annexing Three (3) Parcels Located
At 1740 Deleon Street Equaling Approximately 4.05 Acres And Owned By Cynthia
Rook.
Attorney Garganese read the Ordinance by "Title" only.
Deputy Mayor Miller opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
Mr. Stephen Lee, Esquire, Deputy County Attorney for Seminole County, 1101 East First
Street, Sanford, Florida: spoke of Notice requirements under Florida Law.
Deputy Mayor Miller closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
Discussion.
Tape 2/Side B
With further brief discussion, Attorney Garganese spoke for the record on Advertising
Guidelines, and a related Court decision.
"I WILL MOVE THAT WE ADOPT ORDINANCE 2004-48." MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER GILMORE.
DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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PUBLIC HEARINGS
402. Community Development Department - Planning Division
Requests Removal From The Table And Requests That The City Commission Hold
A Public Hearing For First Reading And Transmittal To Consider A Large Scale
Comprehensive Plan (Ordinance 2004-36) Changing The Future Land Use Map
Designation From "Industrial" To "Commercial" For Six (6) Parcels Located Along
US Hwy (Highway) 17-92.
"SO MOVED." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. SECONDED BY
DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
DEPUTYMAYORMILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Attorney Garganese read the Ordinance by "Title" only.
Ms. Sahlstrom spoke on this Agenda Item.
Discussion.
Deputy Mayor Miller opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
Mr. Ross Burnaman, Esquire, 1018 Holland Avenue, Tallahassee, Florida: addressed the
City Commission on behalf of Richard Moretti, LLC.
Much discussion.
Tape 3/Side A
Further discussion.
Mr. Richard Moretti, 2396 Overseas Highway, Marathon, Florida: addressed the City
Commission on this request.
Much discussion.
Deputy Mayor Miller called a Recess at 10:25 p.m.
Deputy Mayor Miller reconvened the Meeting at 10:32 p.m.
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Manager McLemore stated, "We need to withdraw it at this point in time and bring it
back to you at a later date." Deputy Mayor Miller then said, "Item '402' is withdrawn
from the Agenda." Manager McLemore added, "I think in doing that, that in no way
indicates a waver from the direction that we are trying to move in, in terms of upgrading
the Corridor."
PUBLIC HEARINGS
403. Community Development Department - Planning Division
Requests That The City Commission Hold A Public Hearing For First Reading And
Transmittal To Consider A Large Scale Comprehensive Plan Amendment
(Ordinance 2004-38) Changing The Future Land Use Map Designation From
"GreeneWay Interchange" To "Mixed Use" And "Conservation Overlay" (On
Those Affected Areas) For The Forth (40) Acres, More .Or Less, Located On East
S.R. (State Road) 434, Immediately Across From Creeks Run Way.
Deputy Mayor Miller said, "We need a Motion to read by 'Title' only."
"SO MOVED." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BLAKE. SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Attorney Garganese read Ordinance 2004-38 by "Title" only.
Ms. Sahlstrom presented information related to this Agenda Item.
Commissioner McLeod spoke of public transportation for the record.
Tape 3/Side B
Discussion ensued on 'Class A' office space.
Deputy Mayor Miller opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
Mr. Hugh Harling, P.E., Harling Locklin & Associates, 850 Courtland Street, Orlando,
Florida: addressed the City Commission on behalf of ICI Homes and stated, "We have
worked with your Staff. We agree with the presentation that your Staff has made.
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We agree with the comments that your City Manager has made. The intent is that the
front ten (10) acres would be a 'Class A' office space. We have two (2) offices there; we
have aligned the entryway between the two (2) offices to line up with the existing median
cut and the - entrance to the subdivision across the street. We would then have a gated
community."
Mr. Harling continued, "The entrance would come in here. Office on both sides; gated
community right here and then the condominiums around the particular - road system
that would be internal to it. There would be a recreation facility for active recreation,
passive recreation. The drainage for the site - if you've been out there, before [State
Road] 434 was widened, it used to come in here and drain across into the creek, that
direction." Furthermore, Mr. Harling noted that, "Our intent is to take the water back
here - the 100 year flood elevation is a '10' which would be in this area right here. The
contour that we're holding our building to is approximately '13' which represents the
area above that. If you look at the hydrology of the area; the spring discharge occurs at
elevation '13'; that is the elevation that discharge would come out of the ground at, under
pressure in a high season water table situation,"
Continuing, Mr. Harling added, "Again, this would be an upscale condominium project
also. ICI [Homes], when we started out, were talking about these units being a minimum
of about 1,400 square feet. They came back to me and said we want to increase it by 200
square feet for the minimum, so the minimum size unit in there would be 1,600 square
feet; we'll probably average higher than that. Your Fire Department and Police
Department have requested that we provide a stabilized entrance that would come in and
allow a secondary entrance into this area. That's what this represents; and then on the
interconnectivity what we had agreed to, was that Missy Casscells (Ms. Margaret
Casscells-Hamby) owns this property over here - and her family and that we would
coordinate with them to provide a cross connection between these two (2) properties here
so that there would be the ability for commercial frontage to be interconnected with
paving. As far as a 'Transit' stop, we have no problem planning that into the site, for the
future when that occurs." Mr. Harling added, "We agree with Staff."
Commissioner Blake said to Mr. Harling, "The office space up front - do I see two
buildings there?" Mr. Harling responded, "Yes." Commissioner Blake then asked,
"And those buildings are what type, size, shape - what do you envision there?" Mr.
Harling noted, "We're envisioning three (3) to four (4) stories. We're envisioning that
this office here would be approximately 60,000 square feet; this office would be
approximately 20,000 square feet; and that they would be an upgrade of buildings that
you might see - although they are older, but the Maitland Center type buildings and
things of that nature.
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They would have elevators, they would have large entryways - this doesn't do justice,
but you can see right there that there is an - entryway into each one of them and then you
would enter into a core area in the center where your elevators and your open space
would be; and then we - set the height at fifty feet (50') maximum in an office building of
this nature with twelve feet (12') between floors - you'd end up with about forty-eight
feet (48') so you would end up with about four (4) stories; so I would anticipate a four (4)
story building in those locations." Commissioner Blake then asked about parking, to
which Mr. Harling stated, "We have parking that surrounds the building on all three (3)
sides, all four (4) sides and all four (4) sides around it. The parking works - the parking
ends up being one of the criteria that can be limiting. If you take a normal site - a normal
site, ten (10) acres, you can get about 100,000 square feet on. You can get about lO,OOO
square feet per acre, with parking. In this particular site, because of some of the drainage
constraints and things like that, what we have done is we have said we will get 80,000
square feet on there and have ample parking.
The other thing Missy (Ms. Margaret Casscells-Hamby) and I worked on the GreeneWay
Overlay - and a lot of the GreeneWay Overlay requirements that you had required - ten
foot (10') parking spaces, landscaping in the parking area and things like that. So, we
feel like we have gone with 8,000 square feet per acre as opposed to ten (10), which you
can get in normal conditions, so you will have an upgraded landscaping and an upgraded
parking area associated with this."
Commissioner Blake stated, "Talking about the differences in some of the design
standards that exist in the GreeneWay Interchange District, changes - going here. Do we
have some sort of an Agreement Ron [McLemore], about how many of those design
standards are going to carry over?" Manager McLemore noted, "Our intent was that the
design standards would still prevail here. They didn't go down."
Mr. Harling stated, "We do not have a problem with that and that was our understanding
also." Commissioner Blake added, "That is one of those kind of things that my Attorney
would probably tell me we would want to memorialize somewhere." Mr. Harling
suggested, "Development Agreement?" Manager McLemore agreed and stated, "A
Developer's Agreement." Commissioner Blake added, "I would just want it to be known
that I would not want to see..." Manager McLemore noted, ".. .Reduction. . ."
Commissioner Blake continued, ". ..Exactly, anything in the design standards that won't
work. "
In discussing the proposed Condominiums, Mr., Harling explained, "They will be either
three (3) or four (4) stories tall. Each unit will be individually owned by a unit owner.
He will maintain the inside of that unit. Everything on the exterior of that unit will be
maintained by a Condominium Association." Commissioner Blake inquired, "Will there
be individual Associations for each building or one Master Association for alL.." Mr.
Harling said, ". ..There will probably end up being a Master Association with a - as an
umbrella over each individual building."
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Commissioner Blake then asked Mr. Harling, "It will look much like an apartment
complex?" Mr. Harling responded, "Yes it will." Commissioner Blake then inquired,
"Kind of in a clustered effect here or a..." Mr. Harling replied, "...Yes, Sir." Next,
Commissioner Blake said, "The buildings are anticipated to be inside where those access
points go in?" Mr. Harling noted, "Yes, Sir, those are access points that would be in to -
each building, and there are buildings on both sides of that circular road there.'.'
Commissioner Blake then asked, "And how many units?" Mr. Harling answered by
saying, "We have 480 units total." Commissioner Blake then stated, "No parking
garage?" Mr. Harling said, "That is - one of the things that we'd done in some other
locations, is we have actually put one (1) parking space per unit under the buildings and
then the other parking outside the buildings; so that would be something that we might
strive for in this location, but again, I don't have exact Architectural Plans at this point in
time. "
"I WILL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE EXTEND THE MEETING FOR AN
HOUR." MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER. SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER McLEOD. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Ms. Margaret Casscells-Hamby, 907 Old England Avenue, Winter Park, Florida: spoke
on the property that her family owns. Discussion then ensued on whether a wall was
necessary, and compatibility of adjoining parcels.
Deputy Mayor Miller closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
Ms. Sahlstrom stated, "On page 8 of your Agenda Item, I state there, as per the
Comprehensive Plan, Transportation Element, page II-lO., 'The most important factors in
encouraging transit use are mixed land uses and an urban form. Connectivity to future
development to the east will be preserved.' The plan that you see up here tonight has not
been reviewed by Staff SO, just so that it is clear, if we move this forward as a Comp
[Comprehensive] Plan Amendment, that doesn't indicate that what is being shown here
tonight is being approved although we do agree that it should be 'Class A' office space
that is being proposed. We are agreeing to the mix of condominiums and office space,
but not to the layout that is being demonstrated."
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"I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE MOVE ITEM '403' FOR
APPROV AL." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER McLEOD. SECONDED BY
DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
DEPUTYMAYORMILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
404. Community Development Department - Planning Division
Requests That The Local Planning Agency Hold A Public Hearing For First
Reading And Transmittal To Consider A Large Scale Comprehensive Plan
Amendment (Ordinance 2004-40) Changing The Future Land Use Map Designation
From "Office" (Seminole County) To "Town Center District" (Winter Springs) For
Eight (8) Parcels Containing 11.028 Acres, More Or Less, Located South Of SR
(State Road) 434, West Of The Intersection At Tuskawilla Road.
"MOTION TO READ ORDINANCE 2004-40 BY 'TITLE' ONLY." MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER BLAKE. COMMISSIONER McLEOD MENTIONED THE
SECOND BY "COMMISSIONER McGINNIS". DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER McLEOD: ABSTAINED
DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Attorney Garganese read the Ordinance by "Title" only and stated, "As you know,
Commissioner McLeod has a - "Voting conflict of interest."
Ms. Sahlstrom presented an overview of this Agenda Item.
Deputy Mayor Miller opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
No one spoke.
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Deputy Mayor Miller closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
"I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ADOPT THIS
ORDINANCE AND TRANSMIT." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BLAKE.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. DISCUSSION.
COMMISSIONER GILMORE SAID, "TO THE EAST, IT LISTS 'OFFICE'."
WITH BRIEF DISCUSSION, MS. SAHLSTROM STATED, "THE SUBJECT
SITE IS CURRENTLY SHOWN AS 'OFFICE' UNDER THE FUTURE LAND
USE CATEGORY IN SEMINOLE COUNTY - I SEE WHAT YOUR POINT IS-
UNDER THE EXISTING LAND USE, IT SAYS 'OFFICE' - OKAY, THAT
WOULD BE AN ERROR. THERE IS NO 'OFFICE' TO THE EAST; IT IS ONLY
'COMMERCIAL'."
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER McLEOD: ABSTAINED
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
405. Community Development Department - Planning Division
Requests That The Local Planning Agency Hold A Public Hearing For First
Reading And Transmittal To Consider A Large Scale Comprehensive Plan Text
Amendment (Ordinance 2004-43) Referenced As LS-CP A-05-4, Which Shall Amend
The Comprehensive Plan By Adding Policy Statements To The Future Land Use
Element Relating To The Establishment Of An Urban Central Business District
Ao,d.Revising Transportation Element Policy 1.5.14 Relating To The Town Center.
"MOTION TO READ ORDINANCE 2004-43 BY 'TITLE' ONLY." MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER BLAKE. SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER.
DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
DEPUTYMAYORMILLER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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Attorney Garganese read Ordinance 2004-43 by "Title" only and stated some minor
changes to the Ordinance: "The Ordinance - I struck a couple of provisions that I
thought were very redundant regarding the geographic boundary of the proposed 'Urban
Central Business District'."
Ms. Sahlstrom introduced this Agenda Item.
Discussion then ensued with Mr. Baker.
Deputy Mayor Miller opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
Ms, Rebecca Furman, Attorney, Lowndes Drosdick Doster Kantor & Reed, P.A., 215
North Eola Drive, Orlando, Florida: spoke on this Agenda Item.
Deputy Mayor Miller closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
"I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ADOPT ORDINANCE
2004-43 AND TRANSMIT THE LARGE SCALE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
TEXT AMENDMENT TO INCLUDE THE MAP AS DEPICTED, BUT
AMENDING THIS LINE TO FOLLOW THE LAKE JESUP SHORELINE TO-
THAT POINT RIGHT THERE, AND COME BACK UP AND GO AROUND."
MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BLAKE. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER
GILMORE. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Tape 4/Side A
PUBLIC HEARINGS
407. Community Development Department
Requests The City Commission Hold A Public Hearing For Aesthetic Review Of
The Barclay Woods Town House Units.
Mr, Baker introduced this Agenda Item and explained, "On June the 14th of this year, the
City Commission approved the Final Engineering for Barclay Woods. We have recently
found out from the County through our coordination with '911' that we'll have to call it
'Barclay Reserve'." Mr. Baker added, "We have to go through the Aesthetic Review
before the Building Permit can be issued.
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Discussion ensued on the buildings, and Deputy Mayor Miller noted, "I don't think the
people that live there have the pride of ownership that they would if it - somebody spent
a little more time on making each group of buildings a little bit different from the other-
they are all cookie-cutter type units." With discussion on Code requirements, Deputy
Mayor Miller stated, "I am just lending my support to what he [Mr. Baker] has pointed
out as being something that I think needs to be looked at."
Commissioner McGinnis spoke of aesthetic review and stated, "Our notes from Staff, it
says, 'Despite being reminded by staff, no aesthetic review materials were provided'. Is
there a reason? I would like to know why." Commissioner McGinnis added, "You will
address that specifically when you speak?"
Deputy Mayor Miller opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
Mr. John Reny, 641 North Maitland Avenue, Maitland, Florida: as the Division
President for Ashton Woods, for Orlando, Mr. Reny stated, "To answer your question, I
only just became aware of this Ordinance about a month ago. When I did, I called the
Staff and had a meeting with them. At first of all, actually I had it with the City Manager,
then with the Staff to understand what the Ordinance meant. I was unaware of the
Ordinance. I am new to the area - no excuse. Once they asked us those questions, I did
provide every bit of information that was asked of me. What had happened was when the
old Division President left and I took over; it slipped through the cracks - that's our fault
and I apologize for that. It was not that we were disregarding the notice."
Discussion ensued on eight (8) unit structures.
Mr, Timothy Frost, 1080 Holcomb Bridge Road, Roswell, Georgia: addressed the City
Commission.
Mr. Frost spoke of eight (8) unit buildings and stated, "There is a lot of motion on the
front of these, there is a lot offset. As you look down the street, you are not going to see
a flat fayade of identical buildings - you are going to see a lot offset on these. Between
the six (6) unit and the eight (8) unit building, we have a certain amount of opportunity to
create some variety. Where you see these elements here, where we have the combined
garages, we have created these gable-on-gable elements, and this element here, this
gable-on-gable is really this same combination as this element which is a - small gable
on a hip, and we can play around with those - a little bit to get some variety on the
streetscape. "
Discussion.
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Furthermore, Mr. Prost stated, "We have a small enclave of town homes, we have eighty-
eight (88) units here. We have them around a circular layout around a lake. And, I think
that you want a fairly cohesive design. I don't think you want it very busy and I don't
think that you want a lot of various elements on these buildings because it is a small
community."
Additionally, Mr. Frost added, "I agree with you, I think we do want some variety and I
think that we have built that in. I think there is a misconception that we are just going to
take this building cookie-cutter, exactly the way it is, and march it down the street. There
will be some variety to it and we do have the ability to create that."
With further discussion, Manager McLemore said, "I think that the issue of the two (2)
units on the road is an important issue. I am assuming the backs of these units face the
road, face [State Road] 434, and there is no screening there now."
Mr. Tom Corkery, 759 Bear Creek Circle, Winter Springs, Florida: commented on this
project and stated, "There is a wrought iron fence through the entire front of the property
meeting with the entrance wall. With that there is stone columns intermittent - through
that - 300 feet. Behind that is - vegetative landscaping which is absolutely gorgeous. I
am not going to say it is opaque, but it is pretty close to that, with design lighting
throughout the vegetation and the front entrance signs. The landscaping we're planting in
the front gives - more of a beautiful look - an opaque nature than the trees that - came
down."
Mr. Corkery further discussed the project and said, "This will be a very pretty community
with absolutely luscious landscaping and lighting and entrance features."
Furthermore, Manager McLemore suggested, "If we have these buildings that are really
exposed here now because of the - trees being down, and all that - can we do some
architectural treatment back here, just on these two (2) buildings and make it look like the
front of the building?" .
Mr. Frost said, "We can look at how we treat the banding on the back of the buildings
and we can look at the inclusion of shutters on the back that would add color and tie it
together. I think that we can start to do some of those things." Manager McLemore
added, "Add some architectural details back there that represent the front of the
building." Mr. Reny noted, "That is our six (6) unit building, which is that building, so
would you want to see a rendering of that also?" Manager McLemore responded, "I'd
like to see it." Commissioner McGinnis added, "Yes." Additionally, Manager
McLemore stated, "If we could just do some special treatment on these two (2) buildings,
to make it look - when you look into that Development, you're looking at the front of
that building." Mr. Reny stated, "Sure." Furthermore, Mr. Reny said, "We will get Tim
[Frost] to get the architectural part of it done, and then we - can get a rendering like that
if you would like it, and we can present that, back to you."
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With additional discussion, Manager McLemore stated, "That is all I am asking you to
do, on those two (2) buildings, is to do some minor architectural changes so that it
presents itselflike the front of a building." Mr. Corkery said to Mr. Reny and Mr. Frost,
"Y ou guys don't have a problem with that right? Mr. Reny and Mr. Frost were agreeable
to this. With further discussion, Mr. Frost stated, "We can do that."
Deputy Mayor Miller closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
"I WILL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE EXTEND FOR ONE (1) HOUR."
MOTION BY COMMISSIONER McLEOD. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER
BLAKE. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: NAY
COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
In discussing color schemes, Commissioner McLeod noted, "I would hope that - a couple
blendings of colors and their change is fine."
"I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE ITEM '407' WITH THE
COMMENTS MADE BY THE COMMISSION AND STAFF, REGARDING
AESTHETIC REVIEW AND THAT THEY BRING BACK - THE REAR
ELEVATIONS THAT THEY WERE GOING TO BRING FOR THE CITY
MANAGER." MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER. SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. DISCUSSION.
DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER NOTED, "LET'S BRING' IT BACK."
COMMISSIONER McLEOD ADDED, "BRING IT BACK WHERE IT
BELONGS." COMMISSIONER McGINNIS REMARKED, "WORK WITH THE
CITY MANAGER." DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER THEN SAID, "TWO (2)
WEEKS - BRING IT BACK." COMMISSIONER McGINNIS NOTED, "YES."
MR. CORKERY SAID, "THE REAR ELEVATION." DEPUTY MAYOR
MILLER NOTED, "CORRECT."
WITH FURTHER DISCUSSION ON OTHER COMMENTS MADE DURING
THIS DISCUSSION ON OTHER AESTHETIC REVIEW SUGGESTIONS,
DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER COMMENTED, "I DON'T RECALL US SAYING
YOU HAD TO CHANGE ALL THE FRONTS OF THE BUILDINGS. I MADE
AN OBSERVATION ABOUT THAT ISSUE, AND I DIDN'T GET ANY SUPPORT
ON IT."
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COMMISSIONER BLAKE POINTED OUT, "THE ISSUE IS THE REAR OF
THOSE TWO (2) BUILDINGS THAT BACK UP TO [STATE ROAD] 434."
DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER ADDED, AND BRING IT BACK TO US IN TWO (2)
WEEKS - WHENEVER YOU GET IT READY."
COMMISSIONER McLEOD SAID TO MANAGER McLEMORE, "DID I NOT
HEAR THE CITY MANAGER SAY THAT THIS WOULD HOLD UP BUILDING
PERMITS ON THE REST OF THE PROJECT?" COMMISSIONER BLAKE
NOTED, "YES, THAT IS CORRECT." MANAGER McLEMORE ADDED, "NO,
IT WOULD NOT HOLD UP PERMITS FOR THE REST OF THE PROJECT?"
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
REGULAR AGENDA
REGULAR
500. Community Development Department
Requesting The City Commission Consider And Approve A Final Engineering/Site
Plan With Its Associated Aesthetic Review For A 4,800 Square Foot Transmission
Shop On A 1.589 Acre Tract Along U.S. 17 - 92, North Of Boat Lake And South Of
Shepard Road (More Specifically, Just North Of Cycle Riders And A Group Of
Small Businesses, Including Brucato's Window Tinting, Kids Furniture Gallery,
Boxes To Go, And A Print Shop - The Site Is Immediately South Of Five Points
Motors).
Mr. John Baker introduced this Agenda Item and mentioned that "We do have a couple of
conditions as far as our recommendation of approval and that is having the tree barricades
revised on the plan before this goes to construction, and when they are actually doing the
site work to remove the two (2) Chinaberry trees that were depicted in the tree survey -
those are undesirable trees." Mr. Baker added, "The Applicant shows a Cross-Access
Easement and we want that to be recorded before a CO [Certificate of Occupancy] is
issued. "
Tape 4/Side B
Brief discussion.
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"I MAKE A MOTION WE APPROVE ITEM '500' INCORPORATING THE
STAFF'S COMMENTS." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BLAKE. SECONDED
BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
DEPUTYMAYORMILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED. .
REGULAR
501. Community Development Department
Recommends Approval Of The Proposed Architectural Renderings For Lot 8 At
The Tuskawilla Office Park (TOP), Subject To The Dover Kohl & Partners
Comments.
Mr. John Baker introduced this Agenda Item and stated, "Comment number 2 about the
heavy stone band around the windows, I think that can be accommodated - we can get
the Architect to fix that, so we recommend approval subject to that comment."
"I MAKE A MOTION WE APPROVE ITEM '501' SUBJECT TO DOVER
KOHL'S COMMENTS." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BLAKE. DEPUTY
MAYOR MILLER NOTED, "SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS."
DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Next, Deputy Mayor Miller was recognized in honor of his Birthday.
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REGULAR
502. Parks And Recreation Department
Requesting That The City Commission Approve Staff's Planning Division For The
Winter Springs Town Center Annual Christmas Tree Lighting On November 20,
2004 And Approve A Supplemental Appropriation From General Fund Reserves In
The Amount Of $8,500.00 To Fund Additional Costs.
This Agenda Item was presented by Mr. Chuck Pula.
"I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE ITEM '502'." MOTION BY
DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS.
DISCUSSION.
COMMISSIONER McLEOD SAID, "IT IS A CONSTANT THING THAT HE
[DEVELOPER] WANTS ACTIVITY TO HIS CENTER - THAT HE IS WILLING
TO SPLIT SOME DOLLARS, AND WE ARE TALKING HERE A FIFTEEN
HUNDRED DOLLAR CONTRIBUTION, AND I DO NOT FEEL THAT IS AN
ADEQUATE CONTRIBUTION FROM THE DEVELOPER - TO BRING THESE
PEOPLE WITHIN HIS DEVELOPMENT." COMMISSIONER McLEOD
ADDED, "I THINK YOU NEED TO GO BACK AND REQUEST SIX THOUSAND
DOLLARS ($6,000.00) OUT OF THE GENTLEMAN." FURTHERMORE,
COMMISSIONER McLEOD SUGGESTED, "WE SHOULD BE A FIFTY-FIFTY
(50-50) SPLIT ON THIS."
"I WOULD LIKE TO AMEND THE MOTION THAT THE DEVELOPER'S
PORTION OF THIS BE SIX THOUSAND DOLLARS ($6,000.00), THE CITY SIX
THOUSAND [$6,000.00]." AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER McLEOD. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS.
DISCUSSION.
VOTE: (ON THE AMENDMENT)
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
VOTE: (ON THE MAIN MOTION, AS AMENDED)
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
DEPUTYMAYORMILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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REGULAR
503. Not Used.
REGULAR
504. Office Of The City Clerk
Respectfully Requests That An Appointment To The Code Enforcement Board Be
Made By Either Mayor Bush Or Any Member Of The City Commission To Fill A
Current Vacancy On The Code Enforcement Board.
Commissioner Gilmore nominated Mr. Byron Giltz for the Code Enforcement Board.
Commissioner McGinnis nominated Mr. Jim Wentz for the Code Enforcement Board.
With discussion, Commissioner Gilmore stated, "I will withdraw his [Byron Giltz]
name."
MOTION. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BLAKE. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
REGULAR
505. Community Development Department
In Conjunction 'With The Public Works Department Requests The Commission
Consider Amendments To The Code Related To Dumpster Enclosures And Solid
Waste Collection.
Deputy Mayor Miller stated, "We have withdrawn '505'." Manager McLemore noted,
"Yes - we'll delay that until next Meeting."
REPORTS
REPORTS
600. Office Of The City Attorney - Anthony A. Garganese, Esquire
Attorney Garganese stated, "The Court ruled in our favor on the Wyman Field
Foreclosure. We received a final judgment in the foreclosure action in excess of four
hundred thousand dollars ($400,000.00)."
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Secondly, Attorney Garganese noted that in the City of Winter Springs v. Seminole
County matter, "We agreed to a final Hearing date, November 16th." Attorney Garganese
added for the record, "Since we got a final Hearing date, I just hope the Commission
concurs that we are not going to be going through the Dispute Resolution process with
the County."
"I MAKE A MOTION THAT THE CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS WAIVES - THE
INVOCATION OF THE DISPUTE RESOLUTION PROCESS IN THE MATTER
WITH THE COUNTY." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BLAKE. SECONDED
BY COMMISSIONER GILMORE. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Thirdly, Attorney Garganese then passed out a document related to the 'Waiver'
provISiOn.
REPORTS
601. Office Of The City Manager - Ronald W. McLemore
Manager McLemore asked the City Commission for direction about "An advertisement
in the newspaper or a letter or something of that nature to registered voters relative to
Charter Amendment."
With discussion, Commissioner McGinnis stated, "I support spending the money to do an
ad." Deputy Mayor Miller added, "So we have consensus to go for a full page ad in the
Sunday..." Commissioner McGinnis noted, "...I think Sunday is too late." Deputy
Mayor Miller added, "Hearing no objection, I guess we have a consensus." Manager
McLemore then inquired, "If we go County-wide, do we want to go to their homes with a
letter?" Commissioner Blake responded, "Newspaper." Commissioner McGinnis also
said, "Newspaper." Manager McLemore stated, "Okay." Deputy Mayor Miller
summarized, "So, we will have a full page in the Sunday Orlando Sentinel - make it so."
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REPORTS
602. Office Of The City Clerk - Andrea Lorenzo-Luaces
City Clerk Andrea Lorenzo-Luaces said, "With the Election next Tuesday, I will have at
the next Regular City Commission Meeting, an Agenda Item related to selecting a date
for the next Swearing-In Ceremony."
REPORTS
603. Office Of The Mayor - John F. Bush
Absent.
REPORTS
604. Commission Seat One/Deputy Mayor - Robert S. Miller
No Report.
REPORTS
605. Commission Seat Two - Michael S. Blake
No Report.
REPORTS
606. Commission Seat Three - Donald A. Gilmore
No Report.
REPORTS
607. Commission Seat Four - Sally McGinnis
Commissioner McGinnis thanked Staff for the recent Appreciation Dinner.
Next, Commissioner McGinnis said, "Can we do something for the Winter Springs High
School Maitland Arts Festival winners. Commissioner McGinnis added, "I think we
ought to do something, acknowledge them at a Commission Meeting - maybe give them
a Certificate." Commissioner McLeod suggested, "It's for the Mayor."
Commissioner McGinnis then stated, "Next time, could we get a FEMA [Federal
Emergency Management Agency] update." Manager McLemore inquired, "By the next
Meeting?" Commissioner McGinnis stated, "Yes."
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REPORTS
608. Commission Seat Five - David W. McLeod
Commissioner McLeod noted he would not be able to attend the next City Commission
Regular Meeting.
ADJOURNMENT
Deputy Mayor Miller adjourned the Meeting at approximately 12:54 a.m.
RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED:
ANDREA LORENZ6::;LlJACES, CMC
CITY CLERK
APPROVED:
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JOHN F. BUSH
MAYOR
NOTE: These Minutes were approved at the
,2004 Regular City Commission Meeting.