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HomeMy WebLinkAbout2004 02 23 Consent 201 COMMISSION AGENDA ITEM 201 Consent X Informational Public Hearings Regular February 23. 2004 Regular Meeting Mgr. / Dept. Authorization CONSENT 201. Office Of The City Clerk Approval Of The February 9, 2004 City Commission Regular Meeting Minutes. CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING FEBRUARY 9,2004 CALL TO ORDER The Regular Meeting of Monday, February 9,2004 of the City Commission was called to order by Mayor John F. Bush at 6:30 p.m. in the Commission Chambers of the Municipal Building (City Hall, 1126 East State Road 434, Winter Springs, Florida 32708). ROLL CALL: Mayor John F. Bush, present Deputy Mayor Edward Martinez, Jr., present Commissioner Robert S. Miller, arrived at 6:32 p.m. Commissioner Michael S. Blake, arrived at 6:34 p.m. Commissioner Sally McGinnis, present Commissioner David W. McLeod, present City Manager Ronald W. McLemore, present City Attorney Anthony A. Garganese, present After a moment of silence, Mayor Bush led the Pledge of Allegiance. Under "Agenda Changes," Mayor Bush stated, "'209' on Consent Agenda will he pulled off and voted on separately." Commissioner Robert S. Miller arrived at 6:32 p.m. AWARDS AND PRESENTATIONS AWARDS AND PRESENTATIONS 100. Office Of The Mayor The Founders Of The "Community 5k For A Cure" Wish To Give A Presentation To The City Commission. Ms. Laura Grant, 1067 Winding Waters Circle, Winter Springs, Florida: co-founder of "Community 5k For A Cure" addressed the City Commission on this upcoming event which is being held at Central Winds Park and spoke of possible sponsorships, donations, and promotional opportunities. f-==:?:J LE~ c--"'"~ cS;c~ (',;zc.~;;D t5=?-=J G~ ~ ~ CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - FEBRUAR Y 9, 2004 PAGE 2 OF 26 Commissioner Michael S. Blake arrived at 6:34 p.m. Mayor Bush spoke of ways the City could be affiliated with such an event and stated, "I would also like to challenge each of you to make a donation. I am going to give them $100.00 - out of my pocket, and hopefully the rest of the Commission would see fit to come through." With further discussion, Ms. Grant spoke of insurance and stated, "What we did last year was we purchased Liability Insurance, which we planned to do again this year. It's $660 - and some odd dollars and we were just looking to find a sponsor for that - to pay for it." Commissioner Blake added, "We just spoke - a few days ago about events, and events specifically in our Town Center, and the Park, and here at City Hall, and at the school and how having these events is really key to the success of the Downtown Development area of Winter Springs and this is exactly the type of event I think that falls into that event planning mode. And while I don't think we can put this together in time for this event Ron [McLemore, City Manager], perhaps this is something that ought to come under the Parks Department as an events coordination type of position or that type of duty that we need to look at coming up in the next Budget cycle - so that things like this, whether it is the Boy Scouts - whatever type of organization out there that wants to put together an event like this that does involve the community and is deemed to be a good event for the community, that the City wants to be involved with." Furthermore, Commissioner Blake said, "I, like the Mayor, will be in line behind with a check." Further discussion. Commissioner David W. McLeod said, "I would be more than happy to contribute to you - as a donation, if you will get in touch with me and let me know what it is - the cost of your insurance." City Attorney Anthony A. Garganese pointed out, "One thing to keep in mind about this event is that the money that they are raising is earmarked to the County Health Department to fill a gap - in funding that the County Health Department does provide to citizens of Seminole County." Additionally, Attorney Garganese added, "This is a little bit of a unique situation that you - may want to consider and if we can ensure that the money gets earmarked to that Seminole County government program, does that not further intergovernmental cooperation between the City of Winter Springs and Seminole County - something for you to consider." Further discussion. ~c~ :J '.~--. .~ ':~..J ~c~~ "'~~ ~ o -;r . '.==8 .-51 -)~ '~'~2 i_C~ CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - FEBRUARY 9, 2004 PAGE 3 OF 26 Ms. Grant thanked the City Commission and added, "I will definitely get in touch with you Commissioner McLeod, and thank you all - individually, thank you for your support. " PUBLIC INPUT Mr. Smokey Allen, 1065 Winter Springs Boulevard, Winter Springs, Florida: spoke about Oak Forest Lake and stated, "About seven (7) months ago I had a meeting with Mr. Lockcuff [P.E., Public WorkslUtility Department Director] - "and he assured me that he would take care of our lake. He has done so. Thank you very much Kip. He has done the job for us." Mr. Allen then complimented the City's Police Department and stated, "They have a very visible presence - I see them just about every morning in Oak Forest, cruising around - so we appreciate that also." Mr. Ray Sherman, 1020 Turkey Hollow Circle, Winter Springs, Florida: representing Winter Springs Babe Ruth League, Mr. Sherman spoke on the merits of Central Winds Park and presented a cap to the Mayor and City Commission and other City representatives. Additionally, Mr. Sherman requested that Mayor Bush throw the opening pitch at Saturday's (February 14, 2004 - 10:00 A.M.) "Opening Day" and also asked that the City Commission and the Parks and Recreation staff attend this event. Ms. Lori Bosse, 1004 Gator Lane, Winter Springs, Florida: handed out some documents and spoke on problems with her neighbor and possibly unlicensed dogs. Discussion ensued with Captain Glenn Tolleson, Winter Springs Police Department. Commissioner Miller said, "I would very much like to see this Commission give you instructions here tonight to get with Captain Tolleson and the City Manager." Additionally, Commissioner Miller said, "We need to get the three (3) of you together and we need to start looking into areas that we can start to address this issue seriously. If someone has a Website and they are open for business, I think that is probably an indication that they are doing a business out of their house." Further discussion. Deputy Mayor Edward Martinez, Jr. suggested, "The same way we look at other difficulties that are encountered by our residents in the City, we should take a second look at this Ordinance and see how we can come up with a more satisfactory answer to the problem. ~ L;:::~- J i~-:~ . .~- =='J ~....=-~_-=-:..,~ ~. .~.:\ ~:-.::?/ r-...,-.r-~ I C, ::;.; J ~~-; (CL.-"l :~..JJ L-=:2.QJ ~~ C'<':.'-c--:J L~~ CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - FEBRUARY 9, 2004 PAGE 4 OF 26 Commissioner McLeod spoke on the record about presently having a much better Code. Commissioner McLeod then said to Captain Tolleson, "I appreciate your efforts - your continuance to move forward on your investigation to follow within the steps of the Law." Further discussion ensued. Commissioner Miller said to Mayor Bush, "I would like you to take a poll of the Commission - I am not asking to have the Ordinance changed. I think what we need is our Attorney to spend some time looking at what is actually going on over there." Tape I/Side B Mayor Bush explained that Commissioner Miller was asking for "A poll on getting the Manager, the Attorney, and the Code Enforcement people together on this." Deputy Mayor Martinez stated, "I support it." With further discussion, Manager McLemore suggested, "Either let us look and see if there is some additional stuff we can put in the Ordinance or at least if we go and we come back and say we can't, then maybe we need to go to the next step then and say, we've got to do something else." Commissioner Miller stated, "I have no problem with what the City Manager just said." Furthermore, Commissioner Miller added, "If this Commission would like to see the Attorney come back with some other issues that we need to look at to make our Ordinance better, I have no problem with that." Deputy Mayor Martinez then said, "I think the Code Enforcement Ordinance on signs may have something there for Code Enforcement to. deal with." Attorney Garganese stated, "I believe so, but if you want to look at one area where your Code really needs to be enhanced, it would be that." Commissioner Sally McGinnis stated, "I support Commissioner Miller's suggestion. I think we ought to do a review." Mayor Bush then said, "Commissioner Miller recommended that the Manager, the Attorney, and Code Enforcement get together to look at this situation. Do we have consent from the Commission for that to happen?" Deputy Mayor Martinez stated, "I am in agreement." Commissioner McLeod nodded affirmatively. Commissioner Blake said, "Sure." .:. .:. AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS ARE NOT NECESSARILY DOCUMENTED IN THE ORDER THAT THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS WERE DISCUSSED. .:. .:. ~ . ::::;-'2:1 \ ~C~~ ~?~) ,/~~--:; L='- :::::J C0':':<J , ~. :'\-:'1 L.----?. \ C:~qJ c- ;.-~ l~ .~ CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - FEBRUARY 9, 2004 PAGE 5 OF 26 CONSENT AGENDA CONSENT 200. Parks And Recreation Department Requesting The City Commission Approval To Apply For A Community Development Block Grant (CDBG) For Demolition Of The Civic Center And Construction Of A New Neighborhood Community Center At Sunshine Park And Authorize The City Manager To Apply For This Grant On Behalf Of The City Of Winter Springs. No discussion. CONSENT 201. Information Services Department Requesting Authorization To Dispose Of Surplus Assets According To The Attached Disposition Sheets. There was no discussion on this Agenda Item. CONSENT 202. Utility/Public Works Department Requesting Authorization To Purchase A Portable Generator By Piggybacking Off Of The City Of Weston Florida Bid #1999-22. No comments were made regarding this Consent Agenda Item. CONSENT 203. Fire Department Requesting Authorization To Purchase A Fire Truck By Piggybacking Ofr or Florida Fire Chief's Association, Florida Sherifrs Association And Florida Association Of Counties Bid #03-04-0828 Including The Trade-In Of The 1982 Grumman Fire Truck. There was no discussion on this Consent Agenda Item. CONSENT 204. Not Used. -'~ -- ] .--l " --J .=--v .-",") -:::::1 :~ ..\_-::1 .-~~ __c~ -.-'2) CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - FEBRUARY 9, 2004 PAGE 6 OF 26 CONSENT 205. Community Development Department Requesting The City Commission To Authorize A Supplemental Appropriation In The Amount Of $6,560.00 From The Development Services Fund Account 420 To Permit And Licensing Account 2411-55278 For Enhancements To The Kiva And Munis Permitting System And $3,000.00 To Account 2411-64300 To Complete The Redesign Of The Customer Service Division Counter Area. Brief discussion. CONSENT 206. Public Works Department Requesting Approval Of Resolution #204-05 Authorizing The City Manager To Enter Into A Highway Maintenance Memorandum Of Agreement With The Florida Department Of Transportation For The Maintenance Of State Road 434. No discussion. CONSENT 207. Parks And Recreation Department Requesting Authorization To Piggyback Off The City Of Clewiston Bid # 02-03-11 For Irrigation Pump Station Replacement At Central Winds Park. There was no discussion on this Agenda Item. CONSENT 208. Office Of The City Attorney Requesting The City Commission Approve Settlement In The Amount Of $30,000.00 In Dorothy Peterson v. City Of Winter Springs. Brief discussion. CONSENT 209. Utility Billing Department Requests The Commission To Determine If It Would Desire To Change Delinquent Notices From A Postcard Format To A Letter Format. As stated under "Agenda Changes," Mayor Bush said that, '''209' is being pulled off to be addressed separately." /~ . ',,--2::51 -=-"::1 _.~, -"] ~) .: ~') :=-:'::1 '::::1 '\~1 ~~c;.j ,-':'::'.~~ :...::._~) CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - FEBRUARY 9, 2004 PAGE 7 OF 26 CONSENT 210. Community Development Department Requesting The City Commission To Adopt Resolution Number 2004-07 Establishing The Arbor License Fee. Ms. Max Epstein, Customer Service Manager, Community Development Department addressed the City Commission. With discussion, Commissioner McLeod spoke on State Contractor fees and Florida Statutes and said, "If a landscaper lives in Orlando and does work in this City, my understanding of the law - you can charge for an occupational license here, as well. It is only State Certified Contractors that are protected under the law of the State." Ms. Epstein disagreed and mentioned Florida Statutes Chapter 205. Commissioner McLeod said, "I would like to have the City Attorney look into that." Commissioner McLeod further spoke about Contractors and said "You already know that they are here to start with, when they have a business license - but then to have the Arbor License - a double Licensing with the same requirements that they have Insurance and they are licensed, and those type things. Maybe that part of the Arbor - if you would just look into it, I would appreciate that." CONSENT 211. Office Of The City Clerk Approval Of The January 26, 2004 City Commission Regular Meeting Minutes. There was no discussion on Consent Agenda Item "211". "MOTION TO APPROVE CONSENT AGENDA - WITHOUT ITEM '209'." MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR MARTINEZ. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BLAKE. DISCUSSION. VOTE: DEPUTY MAYOR MARTINEZ: AYE COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE COMMISSIONER MILLER: NAY COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE MOTION CARRIED. .:. .:. AGENDA NOTE: CONSENT AGENDA ITEM "208" WAS DISCUSSED FURTHER, AS DOCUMENTED. .:. .:. ~ r,c:;- ~'~2J'. f" ,.' , I :::: ,'-:, ] L ,.,- G--~ . ,.... ') r' ''::'1 ~ :,'I,,::J ,", ,,-'\ ~,- .al. -_-:~.--;.J , .'-:1 ;- -~:~ -,,, , . I '. --- CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - FEBRUARY 9, 2004 PAGE 8 OF 26 CONSENT AGENDA CONSENT 208. Office Of The City Attorney Requesting The City Commission Approve Settlement In The Amount Of $30,000.00 In Dorothy Peterson v. City Of Winter Springs. ;._~}! --:' ; With discussion, Commissioner Blake noted that he was concerned about collecting Rental Fees "Without the appropriate Waivers or something in place that keeps us protected against $30,000.00 settlements." Commissioner Blake added, "I would like to just simply ask Staff to come back to us with some recommendations about how we should handle these types of issues going forward and also to have perhaps, an evaluation of where else we might be at risk, whether it be with soccer, baseball, softball - Park activities, Senior Center activities - what do we need to do to protect ourselves." ~) - ~ ) ~, ~, <J , , ~-+'_:- - I __.':,-..r-, .---::: - -~-':'j '-'~, , -.~-~ Mayor Bush brought up, "We make people carry policies for some things and not for others." Attorney Garganese said, "The City Manager and I can look at that issue." Commissioner Miller then asked, "Was there a lawsuit against the Insurance carrier that they had for that event?" Furthermore, Commissioner Miller added, "I will take this up with the Attorney later." Discussion ensued on "Hold Harmless" Agreements. .:..:. AGENDA NOTE: CONSENT AGENDA ITEM "209" WAS DISCUSSED NEXT, AS DOCUMENTED. .:. .:. CONSENT AGENDA CONSENT 209. Utility Billing Department Requests The Commission To Determine If It Would Desire To Change Delinquent Notices From A Postcard Format To A Letter Format. "MOTION TO APPROVE." MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR MARTINEZ. MOTION DIED FOR LACK OF A SECOND. Discussion. "I WILL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE LEAVE IT WITH THE POSTCARD FORMAT." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER McLEOD. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. DISCUSSION. CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - FEBRUARY 9,2004 PAGE 9 OF 26 COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE DEPUTY MAYOR MARTINEZ: NAY MOTION CARRIED. Tape 2/Side A INFORMATIONAL AGENDA INFORMATIONAL 300. Community Development Department Advising The City Commission Of The Status Of Various Current Planning Projects. No discussion. INFORMATIONAL 301. Parks And Recreation Department Presenting To The City Commission, The Sports Field Complex Of The Year Award And Introduce The Central Winds Park Staff. Commissioner McGinnis inquired, "Are we going to have press out of this event - are we going to have Press Releases that go all over the State?" Mr. Chuck Pula, Parks and Recreation Department Director introduced members of his Staff: Ms. Tina Kimball, Sports Field Crew Chief; Ms. Paula Nunnery, Lead Maintenance Worker; Mr. Richard Bullard, Maintenance Worker; Ms. Chelsie Myers, Maintenance Worker; Mr. Vernon Prawl, Maintenance Worker; and Mr. Morris Ralls, Maintenance Worker. Mr. Pula added, "The Florida League of Cities has indicated they would print a color picture of this in their next issue of their magazine." Additionally regarding another publication, Mr. Pula stated, "They will be printing this fall, in their national magazine - on the cover will be a picture of Central Winds Park and it will be about a two (2) page article on the park and the maintenance of the park as being the finest sports complex in the Nation," Commissioner McGinnis asked, "Can we get extra copies of that - can we request copies of that magazine." Mr. Pula added, "I will be sure that everybody gets a copy and any extra copies." .---::-'::-:----. .-~. /~"..:. ./~ ~ .' /'~::::.~ ~ l'-. . rc:;\ -; L.........---.. , ~) c~ CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - FEBRUARY 9, 2004 PAGE ]0 OF 26 INFORMA TIONAL 302. Information Services Department Wishes To Update The Commission On The Status Of The I. T. [Information Technology] Plan Created In FY 2002. There was no discussion on this Agenda Item. INFORMATIONAL 303. Public Works Department Updating The City Commission On The Town Center Streetscape, Magnolia Square And Trail Projects. Deputy Mayor Martinez spoke of questionable dates noted in the Agenda Item which was confirmed by Mr. Lockcuff. INFORMATIONAL 304. Not Used. INFORMATIONAL 305. Community Development Department Advising The City Commission Of A Proposed Change Of Use From Retail To Retail And Office In An Adjacent Portion Of The Oviedo Marketplace Development Of Regional Impact (DRI). Brief discussion. Tape 2/Side A Discussion ensued with Mr. John Baker, AICP, Senior Planner, Community Development Department. While pointing to specific lot on a map, Commissioner Blake stated, "This Homeowner right here, is there any problem with us notifying that land owner, that resident, either just have John [Baker] give him a call, or send him a letter with all of the information that we have on this?" Manager McLemore said, "Sure." Mr. Baker stated, "Be glad to do that." Commissioner Blake added, "And also perhaps - if there are any Hearings scheduled on that change, perhaps give them that information as well." Mr. Baker stated, "Yes." /~ t ",... /-.- '...~ 0~ ~_~~ ;~~=~~\ c -~~~-:;) CITY OF WINTER SPRfNGS M fNUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETfNG - FEBRUARY 9, 2004 PAGE 11 OF 26 INFORMATIONAL 306. Community Development Department - Planning Division Wishes To Inform The Commission Of Ordinances 614 And 615 Which Were Adopted In 1996 But Were Never Implemented On The City's FLU [Future Land Use] And Zoning Maps. Brief discussion. "MOTION TO APPROVE 'INFORMATIONAL' AGENDA." MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR MARTINEZ. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MILLER. DISCUSSION. VOTE: COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE DEPUTY MAYOR MARTINEZ: AYE MOTION CARRIED. PUBLIC HEARINGS AGENDA PUBLIC HEARINGS 400. Community Development Department - Planning Division Requests The City Commission Conduct A Public Hearing For The 2nd Reading Of Ordinance 2004-09, Annexing A Parcel Located At 1112 Orange Avenue Equaling Approximately 3.3 Acres And Owned By Luis R. And Maria Esteves. Attorney Garganese read Ordinance 2004-09 by "Title" only. Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item. No one spoke. Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item. "I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE NUMBER 2004-09, ANNEXING A PARCEL LOCATED AT 1112 ORANGE AVENUE." MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR MARTINEZ. MA YOR BUSH ST ATED, "SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BLAKE." DISCUSSION. ::-:~~D ~. , ~- I") . ; I.. -- .-- . !-. . l. '..) CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - FEBRUARY 9,2004 PAGE 12 OF 26 VOTE: COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE DEPUTY MAYOR MARTINEZ: AYE COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE MOTION CARRIED. ,~_._-~ PUBLIC HEARINGS 401. Office Of The City Attorney Requests That The City Commission Adopt On Third And Final Reading Ordinance Number 2003-41, Amending Chapter 10, Article III, Adult Entertainment Establishments, Related To Adult Entertainment Establishments And Sexually Oriented Businesses And More Specifically Regarding Legislative Findings, Licensing, Conduct Regulations, And Penalties. r' , L.. i_ . ~~. ) Attorney Garganese read the Ordinance by "Title" only. Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item. No one spoke. Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item. "MOTION TO APPROVE." MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR MARTINEZ. MAYOR BUSH STATED, "MOTION TO APPROVE THE ORDINANCE." SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McLEOD. DISCUSSION. VOTE: ' COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE DEPUTY MAYOR MARTINEZ: AYE COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE MOTION CARRIED. PUBLIC HEARINGS 402. Office Of The City Attorney Requests That The City Commission Approve On First Reading Ordinance Number 2004-03, Regulating Gaming Devices/Slot Machines. "MOTION TO READ BY 'TITLE' ONLY." MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR MARTINEZ. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. DISCUSSION. CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - FEBRUARY 9, 2004 PAGE 13 OF 26 VOTE: COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE DEPUTYMAYORMARTINEZ: AYE COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE MOTION CARRIED. Attorney Garganese read Ordinance 2004-03 by "Title" only. Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item. No one spoke. Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item. "I WILL MAKE A MOTION WE - MOVE IT TO A SECOND READING - ORDINANCE 2004-03." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MILLER. MAYOR BUSH STATED, "SECONDED BY COMISSIONER MARTINEZ." DISCUSSION. VOTE: COMMISSIONER M][LLER: AYE DEPUTY MAYOR MARTINEZ: AYE COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE MOTION CARRIED. PUBLIC HEARINGS 403. Community Development Department - Planning Division/Planning And Zoning Board And Office Of The City Attorney Requests The City Commission Hold A Public Hearing For Second Reading Of Ordinance 2004-02, Establishing A New Zoning District Entitled "CC-Commerce Center". Attorney Garganese read the Ordinance by "Title" only. Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item. No one spoke. Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item. 'I ~ ' I i~.. ::"_- -~ I. CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - FEBRUARY 9, 2004 PAGE 14 OF 26 "MOTION TO APPROVE." MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR MARTINEZ. MAYOR BUSH STATED, "SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MILLER." DISCUSSION. VOTE: COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE DEPUTY MAYOR MARTINEZ: AYE MOTION CARRIED. /'-'" ) :1 PUBLIC HEARINGS 404. Office Of The City Manager Requests That The City Commission To Adopt Second Reading Of Temporary Ordinance Number 2004-10 Regulating Demising Walls And Interior Partitions Within Town Center Buildings. This Ordinance Is Intended To Maintain Transparency, In A Manner That Encourages Pedestrian Traffic. \ ,,'i --' . ,.... --' Attorney Garganese read the Ordinance by "Title" only. Discussion. Deputy Mayor Martinez said, "We did have our Workshop recently, and I thought - or I believed that the understanding was that we were to have a follow-up Workshop immediately, or as soon as possible after this one here, to work on the fifteen foot (15') rule and other issues that were prevalent." Discussion. Ms, Rebecca Furman, Attorney, Lowndes Drosdick Doster Kantor & Reed, PA., 215 North Eo/a Drive, Orlando, Florida: addressed the City Commission on behalf of their client James Doran Company, and asked that the Ordinance not be approved at this time. Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item. No one spoke. Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item. Ms. Furman stated, "We also understand that it is not just the demising wall - I mean we see the mistake there. We're willing to agree not to build a demising wall in the middle of a window, anywhere - not just on Main Street." CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - FEBRUARY 9, 2004 PAGE 150F26 Further discussion ensued. Commissioner McLeod said, "I would not be opposed to going for the thirty (30) days, unless on the other hand, that it is very well understood by yourself and your client, that the fifteen foot (15') rule defmitely stands at the present time on anything that you want to go forward on, during that period oftime, if you wait until June." Further discussion. --':'\ . I Tape 2/Side B -J Mayor Bush spoke for the record about a Motion he ruled "Out of Order. .\ Discussion ensued on how to proceed. Commissioner Blake said to Ms. Furman, "When I talk about standing still on this, I am talking about no applications or submittals for applications or - drawings or actual work on any wall or partition or finish work, interior work if you will, that affects to any degree the transparency of any building that is currently under construction or any building that may - be applied for." Furthermore, Commissioner Blake explained, "When you start coming up with internal design and you have got a wall that is internal or something that affects the level of visibility into the building, that is what I am talking about that we would have to stand down on." Discussion followed further about the "Fifteen foot (15') rule." Commissioner Blake stated, "I feel uncomfortable using this number of the fifteen feet (15'), because I believe that there are some applications that the number needs to be bigger than fifteen feet (15 ') and I think there are other applications where quite frankly it may be smaller than the fifteen feet (15'). It depends upon the use that is there." With discussion on the Developer's clients, Commissioner McLeod spoke for the record that the City has not imposed any financial restrictions on any of the Developer's clients. Mayor Bush called a recess at 9:07 p.m. The Meeting was called back to order at 9:25 p,m. City Clerk Andrea Lorenzo-Luaces was asked to call roll for the record, and did so. Commissioner Blake returned to the Commission Chambers at 9:26 p.m. Manager McLemore spoke for the record about criteria related to the transparency issue. CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - FEBRUARY 9, 2004 PAGE 16 OF 26 "I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE - APPROVE THE ORDINANCE SUBJECT TO A THIRD READING THIRTY (30) DAYS - THE FIRST MEETING IN MARCH, IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE CITY MANAGER'S LANGUAGE SHOWN IN BOLD PRINT AT THE BOTTOM OF THE FIRST PAGE ON 2. - BUILDINGS OTHER THAN BUILDING - 1, AND THOSE FRONTING MAIN STREET WITHIN THE CURRENTLY APPROVED AGREEMENT; AND THOSE FIVE (5) LINES ON THE NEXT PAGE, WHICH IS PART OF THAT RECOMMENDATION." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MILLER. COMMISSIONER MILLER ADDED, "IT WOULD BE THE FIRST MEETING IN MARCH, WHICH WOULD BE APPROXIMATELY THIRTY (30) DAYS." MAYOR BUSH SAID, "AND THE REST OF WHAT YOU STATED THOUGH IS..." MANAGER McLEMORE SAID, "...INCLUSION OF SECTION 2. OF THAT MEMO..." MAYOR BUSH ADDED, "...OF THE MEMORANDUM OF FEBRUARY 9TH [2004]." SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR MARTINEZ. DISCUSSION. COMMISSIONER McLEOD ASKED, "DOES THE ATTORNEY HAVE A COpy OF THIS MEMORANDUM?" MS. FURMAN STATED, "I DO." COMMISSIONER BLAKE ASKED FOR CLARIFICATION AND STATED, "I UNDERSTAND WE ARE GOING FORWARD WITH A THIRD READING, FIRST MEETING IN MARCH AND WE ARE ADDING THE LANGUAGE SPECIFICALLY UNDER NUMBER 2. ON THIS MEMORANDUM TO THE ORDINANCE?" COMMISSIONER MILLER STATED, "YES, THAT IS WHAT IT IS." MAYOR BUSH ADDED, "UNDER ITEM 2. ON THE FEBRUARY 9TH [2004] MEMORANDUM FROM THE MANAGER..." COMMISSIONER BLAKE SAID, "...IF THE COMMISSION CHOSES TO GO FORWARD WITH THE ADOPTION OF THE ORDINANCE OR APPROVAL OF AN AGREEMENT, IT IS RECOMMENDED THAT THE ORDINANCE AND/OR AGREEMENT SHOULD INCLUDE THE TERMS AS SET FORTH IN THE ORDINANCE AS CURRENTLY WRITTEN WITH THE FOLLOWING AMENDMENT..." COMMISSIONER BLAKE THEN ASKED, "...WHERE DOES IT GO IN THE ORDINANCE?" MANAGER McLEMORE STATED, "IT WILL BE AN AMENDMENT TO THAT ORDINANCE AND YOUR ATTORNEY WILL HAVE TO TWEAK IT AND CORRELATE IT WITH THE EXISTING LANGUAGE, WHICH IT WILL COME BACK TO YOU." ,-;::.~- " (.,-". - (c:- ... C. ~ -. , ('--- ". . ~ C:~ ~ - ; ~-- ~-. ( ': \;=:./:j L- -- , l.~ ../ CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - FEBRUARY 9, 2004 PAGE 17 OF 26 COMMISSIONER BLAKE THEN SAID, "SOMEPLACE IN THE ORDINANCE WE ARE GOING TO ADD OR ADJUST THE LANGUAGE TO READ - 'BUILDINGS OTHER THAN BUILDING 1 AND THOSE FRONTING MAIN STREET WITHIN THE CURRENTLY APPROVED JDC DEVELOPMENT AREA, FOR ALL COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS OTHER THAN BUILDING 1, AND THOSE FACING MAIN STREET WITHIN THE CURRENTLY APPROVED JDC DEVELOPMENT AREA GROUND FLOOR INTERIOR PARTITIONS SHALL OCCUR NO CLOSER THAN TEN FEET (10') BEHIND THE BUILDING'S FRONTAGE LINE FOR RETAIL AND RESTAURANT USES AND FIVE FEET (5') BEHIND THE FRONTAGE LINE FOR ALL OTHER USES." ---\ c. : I ATTORNEY GARGANESE SAID, "THE LANGUAGE IN THE AGENDA ITEM THAT I BELIEVE WAS JUST READ INTO THE RECORD - WE'RE GOING TO ADD THAT TO - SOMEWHERE IN SECTION (d) ill PERHAPS, ON PAGE 3 OF 5." MANAGER McLEMORE ADDED, "WE WOULD ADD IT WHERE YOU NEED TO ADD IT TO MAKE IT WORK, SO THAT THIS CLEARLY DIFFERENTIATES BUILDINGS ON MAIN STREET TO OTHER BUILDINGS, ONL Y WITHIN THE - CURRENT JDC DEVELOPMENT AREA." 1,-. ') 1 J J - 1 ) COMMISSIONER BLAKE MADE AN AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION THAT WE "DIRECT STAFF TO HAVE SUBSTANTIVE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE DEVELOPER AND BRING US BACK ALONG WITH THIS ORDINANCE ON ITS' THIRD READING, AN AMENDMENT TO THE DEVELOPER'S AGREEMENT THAT WILL PROVIDE FOR THE EFFECTIVE USE OF THE SPACE AS DESIGNED PRESERVING THE TRANSPARANCY AS REQUIRED TO MAKE THE TOWN CENTER SUCCESSFUL AND TO ENABLE - THE STOREFRONT ORIENTATION TOWARDS THE STREETS." AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BLAKE. SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR MARTINEZ. DISCUSSION. VOTE: (ON THE AMENDMENT) COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE DEPUTY MAYOR MARTINEZ: AYE COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE MOTION CARRIED. ATTORNEY GARGANESE ADDED, "WE'LL ADVERTISE IT AGAIN - PUBLISH THE AD FOR THE THIRD READING, WHICH IS REALLY THE SECOND READING OF THIS ORDINANCE AS AMENDED THIS EVENING TO INCLUDE THE LAN GAUGE RECOMMENDED BY THE MANAGER INTO THE ORDINANCE AS CURRENTLY DRAFTED." CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - FEBRUARY 9, 2004 PAGE 18 OF 26 VOTE: (ON THE MOTION, AS AMENDED) COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE DEPUTY MAYOR MARTINEZ: AYE COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE MOTION CARRIED. --, REGULAR AGENDA ) . ) REGULAR 500. Office Of Commissioner Robert S. Miller Requesting The Commission To Consider Appointing An Alternate Member To The U.S. 17-92 Redevelopment Planning Agency. I.. \ .r' '- j r.--O J l,. ..) L . Commissioner Miller spoke on this Agenda Item and stated, "The 17-92 CRA requested Alternates quite a few months ago - 1 am looking for whoever wants to volunteer. 1 will notify you if I am not able to attend." "I THINK WE SHOULD APPOINT SALLY McGINNIS TO BE THE ALTERNATE." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BLAKE. SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR MARTINEZ. DISCUSSION. VOTE: COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE DEPUTY MAYOR MARTINEZ: AYE COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE MOTION CARRIED. REGULAR 501. Office Of Deputy Mayor/Commissioner Edward Martinez Jr. Requesting The City Commission to Consider Setting A Referendum Date For The Fluoridation Of The City's Potable Water Supply. Deputy Mayor Martinez introduced this issue. Tape 3/Side A With further discussion, Commissioner McGinnis suggested, "I would not want this to go to a Referendum until we had at least a minimum of two (2) Town Hall meetings, where we invited knowledgeable speakers on both sides to present the issues to the community and give them a basis for making a decision." ' CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - FEBRUARY 9, 2004 . PAGE 19 OF 26 Discussion. Commissioner Miller suggested, "I would suggest that Staff dig out all of the information that we received at the last review of this issue and pass that to Commissioner McGinnis; and following that, if she still feels strongly about it, then come back and raise the issue again. " "MOTION - NOT TO APPROVE THE ITEM '501'." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MILLER. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McLEOD. DISCUSSION. .~ "I WOULD LIKE TO - MAKE A REPLACEMENT MOTION TO HAVE STAFF PUT TOGETHER ONE (1) SPECIAL TOWN HALL MEETING THAT IS ADVERTISED IN THE WATER BILLS THAT WOULD DEAL WITH THE QUESTION OF FLUORIDATION; HAVE INDIVIDUALS FROM EXPERTS IF YOU WILL, FROM BOTH SIDES COME IN AND MAKE IT AVAILABLE FOR THE PUBLIC TO COME IN AND SEE PRESENTATIONS, ASK QUESTIONS; AND THEN COME BACK BEFORE THE COMMISSION AND MAKE A DECISION ON WHETHER OR NOT TO GO FORWARD WITH A REFERENDUM." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BLAKE. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. DISCUSSION. . r- COMMISSIONER McLEOD SUGGESTED, "IF WE ARE GOING TO GO TO MEETINGS, I DON'T THINK ONE, IT IS THE FORUM TO DO IT IN, BECAUSE YOU CAN HAVE ONE GROUP TAKE THAT MEETING UP, LAY ALL THE FACTS OUT THAT THEY WANT EVERYBODY TO HEAR, AND THEY MAY NOT BE FACTUAL FACTS. I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE TIME TO HAVE SOMEBODY COME BACK AND CHECK AND BALANCE THOSE FACTS." VOTE: DEPUTY MAYOR MARTINEZ: AYE COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE COMMISSIONER MILLER: NAY COMMISSIONER McLEOD: NAY MOTION CARRIED. CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - FEBRUARY 9, 2004 PAGE 20 OF 26 REGULAR 502. Community Development Department - Planning Division And Building Inspection Division Requests That The City Commission Adopt By Resolution (As Referenced In Ordinance 2003-40), Revised Engineering Drawings Which Adhere To The Florida Building Code And Which Will Be Supplied By The City To Those Entities Requesting Them And Who Have An Existing Dumpster That Must Come Into Compliance With Section 9-281. Of The Code. Ms. Eloise Sahlstrom, AS LA, AICP, Senior Planner, Community Development Department briefly addressed the City Commission. Discussion. "MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM '502'" - RESOLUTION NUMBER 2004-06. MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MILLER. SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR MARTINEZ. DISCUSSION. VOTE: COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE DEPUTY MAYOR MARTINEZ: AYE COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE MOTION CARRIED. REGULAR 503.1 Finance Department Requesting Approval To Proceed With The Purchase Of A New Envelope Stuffing Machine. Discussion ensued on Maintenance Agreements. Ms. Judi Cooper, Interim Finance Department Director/City Comptroller addressed the City Commission. "I WILL MAKE A MOTION WE BUY IT, WE PAY CASH, WE DO NOT LEASE IT AND LEAVE IT UP TO CITY MANAGER'S STAFF TO DETERMINE WHAT SHOULD BE DONE ON MAINTENANCE AGREEMENTS." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BLAKE. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. DISCUSSION. @-,~ ["""Gc;=sl Lc:--' ,J C - -::--, ~-=~)~ ~s'i~ L;;;..:~ ~--...j (r.-..,l l ~'-.:: : -:-(] l c',l --, ~ . . -' :..~;: ' ( -: ~~. L .... ;....., \.r_. . _. 'r-:;;'j.~' CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - FEBRUARY 9, 2004 PAGE 21 OF 26 "I AMEND THE MOTION TO ALLOW FOR THE SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATION NECESSARY TO PURCHASE THE MACHINE AS WELL." AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BLAKE. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. DISCUSSION. VOTE: (ON THE AMENDMENT) COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE DEPUTY MAYOR MARTINEZ: AYE COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE MOTION CARRIED. --.., I - j ) ') I :1 I . j - \ , VOTE: (ON THE MOTION, AS AMENDED) COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE DEPUTY MAYOR MARTINEZ: AYE COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE MOTION CARRIED. . , , REGULAR 503.2 Office Of Mayor John F. Bush Requests That The City Commission Consider Whether They Would Like To Start Including Information In City Utility Bills Related To City Commission Meetings. Discussion. "I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE PROVIDE A MECHANISM TO GET INFORMATION OUT TO THE COMMUNITY BY STUFFING AN EXTRA PIECE OF PAPER IN OUR WATER BILLS." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BLAKE. DISCUSSION. VOTE: COMMISSIONER McLEOD: NAY DEPUTY MAYOR MARTINEZ: NAY COMMISSIONER MILLER: NAY COMMISSIONER BLAKE: NAY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE MOTION DID NOT CARRY. REGULAR 504. Not Used. CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - FEBRUARY 9, 2004 PAGE 22 OF 26 REGULAR 505. Community Development Department Presents Statistical Data Regarding Lot And Home Sizes In The Single-Family Zoning Categories Within The City. Mr. Baker briefly spoke on this Agenda Item and stated, "Mr. McLeod had asked for a comparison of the different lot sizes and the building sizes in the different residential districts that were being affected while we were looking at Accessory Buildings for these residential districts - and we looked at a number of lots in each one of these Districts and came up with these numbers." ') Commissioner Blake inquired, "What portion of our residential dwelling units are in POO's [Planned Unit Developments]?" Mr. Baker stated, "I don't know." Commissioner Blake then said, "As it appears that most of the residential units are not in one ofthese - Zoning classifications, it may not give us the information we need." I' . '\ Deputy Mayor Martinez departed the Meeting at 10:33 p.m. I ,. ) Commissioner McLeod added, "I would agree with the Commissioner - we need something as far as square footage areas or lot sizes." Commissioner McLeod then said, "Is there a way, Mr. Baker you can go back and take a look at the POO's [Planned Unit Developments]? A lot of the POO's [Planned Unit Developments] however do still follow some of the regulations - within a Zoning District of which you could have equal to what would be an 'R-l,' even though it is in a POO [Planned Unit Development]. You may not call it 'R-l,' but the setbacks, side yard, and so forth may be very similar. I think we probably ought to average that - also so that we can come up with - the same thing doesn't apply to every district or every Zoning District as to the size of the out parcel. I think we need to find out what that means to the size of the lot and it may be that it becomes a percentage of - the lot, maximum; and I think that is what we are trying to get to, by getting this information." Discussion. Tape 3/Side B With further discussion, Mayor Bush stated, "Maybe the Commission needs to think about this a little longer before they attempt to ask Mr. Baker to do anymore." Commissioner Blake stated, "I agree." Commissioner McLeod said to Manager McLemore, "Put a copy of that back in my box - I will be more than happy to review it." Furthermore, Commissioner McLeod added, "I would definitely like a copy of that, the information - along with this again. . ." Manager McLemore stated, "" .Okay." Commissioner McLeod then said, "If it doesn't make sense, I will bring it back." CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - FEBRUARY 9, 2004 PAGE 23 OF 26 REPORTS REPORTS 600. Office Of The City Attorney - Anthony A. Garganese, Esquire Attorney Garganese stated, "In the case that we are handling - Pochtchen v. City of Winter Springs (and McLeod)," I did send an update to the City Manager that you all should be receiving. Secondly, Attorney Garganese spoke about "Public Input" and a case he handled for the City of Cocoa - '''Rowe v. City of Cocoa' - that case is precedent setting in a number of ways, but most particularly that case reemphasizes the City Commission's ability to establish a rule for 'Public Input'." Attorney Garganese then asked the City Commission, "Do you want to beefup this 'Public Input' rule, or leave it as is?" Commissioner Miller stated, "Beef it up." Commissioner McGinnis agreed and said, "Beef it up." No objections were voiced. REPORTS 601. Office Of The City Manager - Ronald W. McLemore Manager McLemore spoke on the Wyman Fields organization and explained, "There are two (2) or three (3) issues that have come up that we don't have answers to yet that involve the County, so I need a few more days of working with Anthony [Garganese] and the County to work out these issues and then I would like to sit down with you individually and go over these issues, since there is a litigation issue involved here, and then you can decide what you want to do. So, as soon as I get that together, I would like to schedule an appointment with each of you and go over those issues with you." REPORTS 602. Office Of The City Clerk - Andrea Lorenzo-Luaces City Clerk Lorenzo-Luaces stated, "At the last meeting, there was the approval of the January 12th [2004] Meeting Minutes. Commissioner Martinez brought up - regarding the Audit Selection Committee, there were three (3) Motions under that Agenda Item and the Minutes were approved with - clarifying the third Motion which was just listed in the Minutes as 'MOTION. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MILLER. DISCUSSION.' The reason I listed it that way is because you can't hear who said the Motion. I had the Mayor tonight listen to that, just to clarify that he agreed, and he did," Furthermore, City Clerk Lorenzo-Luaces stated, "At the last Meeting, Commissioner Blake said he believed he made the Motion," With further brief discussion, Mayor Bush stated, "Commissioner Blake indicated that he made the Motion," City Clerk Lorenzo- Luaces then asked if the Motion should be written as "Motion to Approve?" This was agreed to. . , ') I ., 1 I I, CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - FEBRUARY 9, 2004 PAGE 24 OF 26 Next, City Clerk Lorenzo-Luaces said that Mr. Dennis Joyner, Supervisor of Elections for Seminole County is willing to come before the City Commission on March 22, 2004. City Clerk Lorenzo-Luaces stated, "I just wanted to make sure that is okay?" Commissioner Blake stated, "Fine." Mayor Bush also stated, "That is fine." There were no objections noted regarding this. REPORTS 603. Commission Seat One - Robert S. Miller Commissioner Miller noted that New York had approved a Resolution related to the Patriot's Act. REPORTS 604. Commission Seat Two - Michael S. Blake I. Commissioner Blake asked that the status of Ordinances noted under "Public Hearings" Agenda Items be noted more clearly and said, '''Adopt on Third - and Final Reading' - I think that language is great whenever it is an Adoption Hearing. That makes it very clear to the public who is reading the Agenda that this is an Adoption Hearing, as opposed to a First Reading." Furthermore, Commissioner Blake suggested that we "Be very uniformed - when it is a First Reading; when it is a Second Reading; when it is an Adoption Hearing - let's say so." Next, Commissioner Blake asked that better lighting be provided for the podium area. Commissioner Blake then spoke of the "Appraisals for four (4) pieces of property that the City owns that may in fact be surplus property." Commissioner Blake added, "All totaled, the Appraisals show about a million dollars - now, if we need this land for something, we should continue to own this land; but we ought to develop a plan for what we are going to use it for. If we are not going to use this land for something, then I think we could probably utilize the million - somewhere else." Furthermore, Commissioner Blake suggested, "I think we need to formulate some sort of a plan as to what we are going to do with these properties that we own. As we get closer to the Budget process - I think we should think about it. I know the - area by the utilities, I had said previously that selling that would help pay for the new area that we built for the new Utility DepartmentlPublic Works Department - Mayor, I just throw that out as something I think we need to give Staff some direction on." Mayor Bush stated, "Is the Commission in agreement with Commissioner Blake's recommendations - for Staff to look into this..." Commissioner Blake stated, ".. .Formulate a planT' There were no verbal objections to this." CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - FEBRUARY 9, 2004 PAGE 25 OF 26 REPORTS 605. Commission Seat Three/Deputy Mayor - Edward Martinez, Jr. No Report as Deputy Mayor Martinez had departed the Meeting. REPORTS 606. Commission Seat Four - Sally McGinnis In following up on Commissioner Blake's last comments, Commissioner McGinnis stated, "If we do have any extra money, I would like to have a Newsletter come out more frequently, now that we are not going to have a notice in our water bills to give people information on things that are happening in our City. We only do a quarterly Newsletter, and it - is not timely enough, so if - when we do our Budget, if we could look at doing it more frequently." Commissioner Blake added, "It is very expensive. It would have been cheaper to just put it in the water bill." Mayor Bush said, "It doesn't have to be done in 4-color on slick paper either." Commissioner McGinnis added, "There are other options - my concern as always is getting information out to the community, because we are not doing that. We have to keep thinking of creative ways to do it. We are doing it, but it is not on a timely basis." Manager McLemore said, "I think we need to bring this back for discussion. " i. REPORTS 607. Commission Seat Five - David W. McLeod No Report. REPORTS 608. Office Of The Mayor - John F. Bush Mayor Bush spoke about the City of Oviedo's letter dated November 19th and stated, "My only concern - about this one paragraph, they are asking the Florida Conflict Resolution Consortium... - there is no conflict." Mayor Bush clarified that there were no other letters from other members of the City of Oviedo's Council- that this letter is the "One and only". Commissioner McLeod said, "I think that we should just give another offer - that we just meet on a casual basis," Mayor Bush suggested, "Can I say with the Commission's approval that we do not believe the Florida Conflict Resolution Consortium needs to be involved..." Commissioner McGinnis stated, "...Okay...." Mayor Bush added, "...Because we have no conflict at this point." Commissioner McLeod stated, "Correct." Mayor Bush then said, "I will do that. " CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - FEBRUARY 9, 2004 PAGE 26 OF 26 Next, Mayor Bush suggested that "We explore communicating with our local educational institutions about possibly locating an extension campus in the Town Center." Commissioner McGinnis agreed with this and said, "Yes." Mayor Bush added, "I am going to call SCC [Seminole Community College] first - see if they are interested. If not - expand it out." Mayor Bush said he would "Then bring it back to you or maybe we can get the President of SCC [Seminole Community College] here." Mayor Bush commented on a call he received from a citizen who said to him, "The High School is running out of places to play; and they said - why can't the City cooperate with the High School, in terms of sharing some of our recreational facilities." Mayor Bush then remarked that "Her comments were - 'it is great to have these kinds of things, but if nobody can use them, what is the point'. She sees our fields empty and the High School can't find a place to play - that was her concern." Mayor Bush said, "I will talk to the Manager about it and we will get with Chuck [Pula]. '(0._ .J ADJOURNMENT L. , --' Mayor Bush adjourned the Meeting at 11 :01 p.m. RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED: ANDREA LORENZO-LUACES, CMC CITY CLERK APPROVED: JOHN F. BUSH MAYOR NOTE: These Minutes were approved at the ,2004 Regular City Commission Meeting.