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April 14. 2003
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Requesting Approval Of The March 31, 2003 City Commission Special Meeting
Minutes.
CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS
MINUTES
CITY COMMISSION
SPECIAL MEETING
MARCH 31, 2003
CALL TO ORDER
The Special Meeting of Monday, March 31, 2003 of the City Commission was called to
order by Deputy Mayor Robert S. Miller at 6:38 p.m. in the Commission Chambers of the
Municipal Building (City Hall, 1126 East State Road 434, Winter Springs, Florida
32708).
After a moment of silence, the Pledge of Allegiance was led by Deputy Mayor Miller.
ROLL CALL:
Mayor John F. Bush, present (via teleconference call)
Deputy Mayor Robert S. Miller, present
Commissioner Michael S. Blake, present
Commissioner Edward Martinez, Jr., arrived at 7:01 p.m,
Commissioner Sally McGinnis, present
Commissioner David W, McLeod, present
City Manager Ronald W. McLemore, present
City Attorney Anthony A. Garganese, arrived at 6:39 p.m.
REGULAR
REGULAR
1. A. Office Of The City Manager
Presents To The City Commission A Request To Further Discuss A Conditional Use
To Allow Multiple Family Dwellings In The C-l (Neighborhood Commercial)
Zoning District, Pursuant To Section 20-234. Of The Zoning Chapter Of The City
Code Of Ordinances.
City Attorney Anthony A. Garganese arrived at 6:39 p,m.
City Manager Ronald W. McLemore introduced this Agenda Item,
In speaking of this Agenda Item, Manager McLemore stated, "They do need a
contribution of $150,000.00 for the affordable housing project in order to be competitive
in that process, Their agreement with us is if that project goes forward, then they will
pay back to us through the Wagner's Curve Company, $250,000,00 and this will be a
concurrent transaction which would net the City $100,000,00 which we could contribute
to any of the parks we wanted to. If that project does not go forward, the affordable
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housing project, they are still willing if the other project goes forward, the Wagner's
Curve project, the Wincey project, they will then provide to the City a check for
$250,000.00. "
Next, Manager McLemore explained, "What we need to go forward is - I need to be able
to execute on behalf of the City, the form which verifies the local Grant. That form - you
can terminate that agreement to do that - subject to if we don't get to a Development
Agreement that we can all agree to, and we will then memorialize all this in a
Development Agreement, a Master Agreement which would come back to you for your
approval, setting out all of the details and also, there would be a separate Development
Agreement for each of the projects which would be consistent with the Master
Agreement. "
Discussion.
Ms, Lisa M Stephens, Comptroller and Development Coordinator, Davis Heritage,
20725 SW 46th Avenue, Newberry, Florida: addressed the City Commission,
Commissioner Michael S. Blake inquired, "Is there any requirement from you folks that
that $250,000.00 contribution be earmarked for Parks only?" Commissioner Blake
added, "Would it be a deal killer if that was General Fund money and not money that is
earmarked specifically in a Parks Trust Fund?" Ms. Stephens stated, "No,"
Furthermore, Commissioner Blake inquired of Ms. Stephens, "If the Cypress Pointe
project is not approved by Florida Housing Finance Authority, and Wagner's Curve is -
the Leerdam property, then you will make the contribution? And you put it that way
Because you do not yet have a contract or plans on the Wincey property?" Ms. Stephens
stated, "That is correct."
Commissioner Sally McGinnis suggested, "I would like to ask that in the future, that
Cypress Pointe be referred to as affordable housing and not low income housing."
Manager McLemore stated, "Okay, that's fair."
With further discussion, Manager McLemore asked Ms. Stephens, "If the Wincey
property doesn't develop, but yet the Wagner's Curve project does develop, are we still
talking about the $250,000,00 gift?" Ms. Stephens stated, "Yes. At the time that we -
Davis Heritage have a project that we know is moving forward in the community,
whether it be the Wagner's Curve property, the Wincey property, or the Golf Course
property, we're prepared to make a contribution of $250,000.00 to be used as the City
sees fit - so it is not tied to our affordable housing project going forward, nor is it tied to
getting the Wincey property under contract - just at the point that we become a member
of your community, that's when we'd make that contribution." Commissioner David W.
McLeod suggested, "That should be stated in whatever Motion is made this evening."
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Manager McLemore said to the City Commission, "I need the authority to sign the Grant
form and direction from you to the City Attorney and t to develop the Development
Agreement and bring it back to you - the Master Development Agreement."
"I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO DIRECT THE CITY MANAGER
AND THE ATTORNEY TO - PREPARE A MASTER DEVELOPMENT
AGREEMENT WITH THE DAVIS COMPANIES AND ALL OF THEIR
ASSOCIATED SUB-COMPANIES, OF WHICH THERE ARE VARIOUS, IN
ORDER TO REQUIRE A $250,000.00 DONATION TO THE CITY OF WINTER
SPRINGS AT THE TIME THAT EITHER THE CYPRESS POINTE PROJECT IS
APPROVED BY THE FLORIDA HOUSING AND FINANCE AUTHORITY OR
THE W AGNERS CURVE OF WINTER SPRINGS IS APPROVED BY THE CITY
OF WINTER SPRINGS TO COME INTO THE GENERAL FUND AND
CONCURRENT WITH THAT TRANSACTION THE CITY OF WINTER
SPRINGS WOULD MAKE A $150,000.00 DONATION IF THE CYPRESS
POINTE PROJECT WERE TO BE APPROVED BY THE FLORIDA HOUSING
AND FINANCE AUTHORITY, SUBJECT TO THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT
VERIFICATION OF CONTRIBUTION GRANT CERTIFICATE WHICH
WOULD BE AT THAT TIME EXECUTED BY THE CITY."
COMMISSIONER BLAKE ADDED, "THAT IS NOT QUITE RIGHT BECAUSE
THIS HAS TO BE EXECUTED NOW - BUT, WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT
THE DEVELOPER FROM THE MASTER DEVELOPER'S AGREEMENT IS
STRUCTURED SUCH THAT IN THE EVENT THAT THIS PROJECT -
CYPRESS POINTE IS NOT APPROVED BY THE FLORIDA HOUSING AND
FINANCE - THEN, THIS CERTIFICATE IS NULL AND VOID AT THAT
TIME." MANAGER McLEMORE ADDED, "IN ORDER TO COMPLETE
THEIR APPLICATION, WE NEED THAT CERTIFICATE." COMMISSIONER
BLAKE ADDED, "AND FURTHER THAT IF THE WINCEY PROJECT
DEVELOPS, THEN THE DEVELOPER WOULD AGREE TO CONSTRUCT A
ROAD AND ENTRANCEWAY INTO THE CITY.PARK WITH A TRAFFIC
PATTERN THAT WORKS - TO BE DETERMINED." MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER BLAKE.
Commissioner Edward Martinez, Jr. arrived at 7:01 p.m,
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. DISCUSSION.
"I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE AN AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION TO
INCLUDE THAT PROJECT ALSO - THE WINCEY PROJECT, SO THAT IF IT
SHOULD GO FIRST, THE $250,000.00 WOULD BE DONATED TO THE CITY."
AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION BY COMMISSIONER McLEOD.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BLAKE. DISCUSSION.
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ATTORNEY GARGANESE STATED, "IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT
THE $250,000.00 DONATION TO THE CITY WILL OCCUR WHENEVER ANY
OF THE SITE PLANS FOR ANY OF THE PROJECTS IS APPROVED BY THE
CITY COMMISSION..." MANAGER McLEMORE AGREED AND SAID,
"...RIGHT..." ATTORNEY GARGANESE THEN ADDED, "...IN ADDITION
THE CITY'S $150,000.00 CONTRIBUTION WILL OCCUR IF AND WHEN THE
SITE PLAN IS APPROVED FOR THE - CYPRESS POINTE PROJECT,
KEEPING IN MIND, I DON'T BELIEVE THE DEVELOPER IS GOING TO
COME FORWARD FOR FINAL APPROVAL UNTIL YOU KNOW WHETHER
OR NOT YOU ARE GETTING YOUR GRANT WITH THE STATE..." MS.
STEPHENS STATED, "...RIGHT, WE WILL START PRELIMINARY
APPROVAL IMMEDIATELY BUT FINAL APPROVAL WON'T COME UNTIL
LATER..." ATTORNEY GARGANESE ADDED, "...FINAL APPROVAL
WON'T COME UNTIL YOU KNOW THAT YOU HAVE YOUR FINANCING,
YOUR FUNDING LOCKED IN WITH THE STATE..." MS. STEPHENS
AGREED AND SAID, "CORRECT..." ATTORNEY GAR~ANESE THEN SAID,
"...SO, IT'S THE SITE PLANS THAT TRIGGER THE PAYMENT OF THE
$250,000.00 - IT COULD BE ANY ONE OF THREE (3) SITE PLANS
APPROVED, AND THE $150,000.00 CONTRIBUTION IS TIED ONLY TO THE
CYPRESS POINTE OF WINTER SPRINGS SITE PLAN."
COMMISSIONER BLAKE INQUIRED, "THE $150,000.00 PAYMENT WOULD
OCCUR WHEN? FROM THE CITY TO THE DEVELOPER? THAT
CONTRIBUTION WOULD OCCUR AT WHAT POINT IN TIME?" ATTORNEY
GARGANESE SAID, "AS THE FINAL SITE PLAN IS APPROVED FOR THE
CYPRESS POINTE AT WINTER SPRINGS LTD., AND IF THAT IS THE ONLY
PROJECT THAT IS APPROVED, SIMULTANEOUSLY WITH THAT, THEY
WOULD GIVE YOU A $250,000.00 CONTRIBUTION TO THE CITY AS PART
OF THE MASTER AGREEMENT."
VOTE: (ON AMENDMENT)
COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
DEPUTYMAYORMILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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VOTE: (ON THE MOTION, AS AMENDED)
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE
COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
REGULAR
2. B. Office Of The City Manager
Presents To The City Commission A Request To Discuss Certificates Of Occupancy
For The Town Center.
Manager McLemore introduced this Agenda Item,
Commissioner Blake stated, "When the Commission first took this action September 9th,
it was seven (7) months ago, and I remember that night very specifically and I remember
stating that there would be no additional e.O.'s [Certificate of Occupancy's] until the
problem was done, fixed, and Shane Doran stood before us and said I understand that, we
will come to a Resolution, because I cannot afford to hold up e.O.'s [Certificate of
Occupancy's], Now, that is paraphrasing, but I think if you pull the tapes, we are going
to hear him say something very close to that." Discussion followed on how this situation
has been progressing.
Tape 1/Side B
Discussion.
Commissioner Martinez suggested, "Perhaps the Commission should direct the City
Manager to sit down with these people one (1) more time, and draft a document that puts
an end to all this haggling back and forth.
Further discussion.
"MY MOTION WOULD BE THAT WE DO GRANT THE C OF 0
[CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY] ON BUILDINGS 10,8, AND 15; HOWEVER
WE WOULD ISSUE PERMITS ON BUILDING 1. THE PROBLEM WOULD BE
RESOLVED BEFORE THE C OF 0 [CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY] OF
BUILDING 1, GIVING APPROXIMATELY 90 TO 120 DAYS TO RESOLVE
THE ISSUE." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER McLEOD.
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COMMISSIONER McLEOD ADDED, "THE BUILDING ITSELF AT THE
PRESENT TIME IS NOT OUT OF THE GROUND - THE DEVELOPER KNOWS
THE ISSUE. THE DEVELOPER THEN WILL COME BACK - YOU AND HE
WILL GET TOGETHER AND COME BACK TO US WITH HOW YOU ARE
GOING TO RESOLVE THIS ISSUE." SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER
MARTINEZ. DISCUSSION.
MANAGER McLEMORE STATED, "I BELIEVE COMMISSIONER McLEOD'S
RECOMMENDATION TO YOU WILL WORK. AND I WOULD SAY THE
CAVEAT IS THAT WE HAVE TO BE BACK IN FRONT OF YOU IN THIRTY
(30) DAYS WITH A PLAN, BUT WE ARE NOT TO HOLD UP THESE
CERTIFICATES OF OCCUPANCY. AND THEN ONCE WE GET BACK IN
FRONT OF YOU WITH A PLAN, THEN YOU'VE GOT TO DECIDE
WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT, AND YOU MIGHT WANT TO TWEAK
IT."
"I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE DO NOT GRANT ANY
MORE PERMIT'S OR C.O.'S [CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY'S] FOR THIS
PROJECT BEYOND THAT WHICH IS APPROVED AND AUTHORIZED
TONIGHT UNTIL THIS LIGHTING ISSUE IS SETTLED BETWEEN THE CITY
OF WINTER SPRINGS AND THE DEVELOPER." AMENDMENT TO THE
MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ. COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ
ADDED, "THAT WE DO NOT ISSUE ANY MORE PERMITS OR C.O.'S
[CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY'S] BEYOND THAT WHICH IS BEING
APPROVED TONIGHT, UNTIL THEY SETTLE THIS ISSUE OF THE
LIGHTING." SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. DISCUSSION.
COMMISSIONER McLEOD SUGGESTED, "THE OTHER THING THAT HE
NEEDS TO UNDERSTAND HERE IS THAT THE LIABILITY AND
RESPONSIBILITY TO HIS TENANTS OF BUILDING 1, HE NEEDS TO MAKE
THEM AWARE OF THE CONDITIONS OF THE ACCEPTANCE OF THE C OF
o [CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY], FOR THAT BUILDING, AND THE
BURDEN THEN FALLS ON HIS SHOULDERS."
ATTORNEY GARGANESE SAID, "I THINK THE CITY'S ISSUE IS A
PERMITTING ISSUE - WHETHER OR NOT HE HAS A RIGHT TO GET THE
CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY WHEN THE BULDING IS READY FOR
OCCUPANCY, AND WE HAVE A SERIOUS BREACH OF CONTRACT ISSUE
WHICH NEEDS TO BE SATISFIED I BELIEVE, BEFORE THAT
CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY IS ISSUED - THAT IS ONE (1) ISSUE. HIS
ISSUE WITH HIS TENANTS IS SIMPLY A LANDLORD-TENANT ISSUE, HOW
CAN HE WITH ANY ASSURANCE TELL SOMEBODY THAT THE BUILDING
IS GOING TO BE AVAILABLE WHEN HE HAS GOT A BREACH SITUATION
THAT NEEDS TO BE RESOLVED."
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FURTHERMORE, ATTORNEY GARGANESE SUGGESTED, "PUT A
NOTATION ON THE BUILDING PERMIT WHEN IT IS ISSUED - THAT A
CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY IS CONDITIONED UPON THE
RESOLUTION OF THE LIGHTING ISSUE."
Tape 2/Side A
VOTE: (ON THE AMENDMENT)
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: NAY
COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ: AYE
COMMISSIONER McLEOD: NAY
DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER: NAY
MOTION DID NOT CARRY
VOTE: (ON THE MAIN MOTION)
COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ: NAY
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: NAY
COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
DEPUTYMAYORMILLER: NAY
MOTION DID NOT CARRY
With discussion, Deputy Mayor Miller said, "I think probably what we are going to need
to do is have this issue brought back 1 suppose at the next Meeting."
Further, Manager McLemore asked, "Specifically, what is your bottom line?" Deputy
Mayor Miller said to Manager McLemore, "We want a proposal Ron - my own personal
opinion right now having been the Chairman of this Meeting, would be to bring back at a
date certain, either the next Commission Meeting or the one after that - this is what is
possible in the period of time in which it is going to be done. At least that way, we will
have a scope of the concept of what really is going on here." Additionally, Deputy
Mayor Miller stated, "I personally want what we originally agreed to - that is what I
want." Commissioner McLeod then said to Manager McLemore, "I think the Motion last
week was for you to go back and negotiate."
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ADJOURNMENT
Deputy Mayor Miller adjourned the Special Meeting at 8:22 p.m.
RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED:
ANDREA LORENZO-LUACES, CMC
CITY CLERK
APPROVED:
JOHN F, BUSH
MAYOR
NOTE: These Minutes were approved at the
, 2003 Regular City Commission Meeting.
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