HomeMy WebLinkAbout2003 09 08 Consent J Unapproved Minutes from the August 25, 2003 City Commission Regular Meeting
COMMISSION AGENDA
ITEM J
Consent X
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Public Hearings
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September 8. 2003
Regular Meeting
Mgr. / Dept.
Authorization
CONSENT
J. Office Of The City Clerk
Requesting Approval Of The August 25, 2003 City Commission Regular Meeting
Minutes.
CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS
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AUGUST 25, 2003
CALL TO ORDER
The Regular Meeting of Monday, August 25,2003 of the City Commission was called to
order by Mayor John F. Bush at 6:30 p.m. in the Commission Chambers of the Municipal
Building (City Hall, 1126 East State Road 434, Winter Springs, Florida 32708).
Mayor John F. Bush, present
Deputy Mayor Robert S. Miller, present
Commissioner Michael S. Blake, arrived 6:43 p.m.
Commissioner Edward Martinez, Jr., present
Commissioner Sally McGinnis, present
Commissioner David W. McLeod, arrived 6:37 p.m.
City Manager Ronald W. McLemore, present
City Attorney Anthony A. Garganese, arrived 6:33 p.m.
Following a moment of silence, the Pledge of Allegiance was led by Mayor Bush.
City Attorney Anthony A. Garganese arrived 6:33 p.m.
Under "Agenda Changes," Ms. Eloise Sahlstrom, AICP, ASLA, Senior Planner,
Community Development Department stated Public Hearings Agenda "Item 16., as it was
advertised in the paper, included thirty-three (33) parcels. We're only looking at thirty-
one (31) parcels tonight, of those thirty-three (33) - the two (2) parcels that we are not
including in consideration of for tonight, were not currently zoned 'C-2', they were
currently zoned C-1, and we felt it best to not act on that at this time."
AWARDS AND PRESENTATIONS
AWARDS AND PRESENTATIONS
1. A. Office Of The Mayor
Presentation Of A Proclamation In Honor Of The Code Enforcement Division Of
The Winter Springs Police Department.
Mayor Bush read a Proclamation in honor of the City's Code Enforcement Division.
Winter Springs Police Department Captain Glenn Tolleson, Code Enforcement Officer
Jose Romero, and Code Enforcement Officer Cathy Davidson accepted the Proclamation.
Commissioner David W McLeod arrived at 6:37 p.m.
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AWARDS AND PRESENTATIONS
2. B. Office Of The Mayor
Presentation Of A Proclamation In Honor Of Fire Fighter Appreciation Week.
A Proclamation was presented in Honor of Fire Fighter Appreciation Week. Winter
Springs Fire Department Members - Battalion Chief David Myers, Lieutenant David
Tryon, Firefighter/Apparatus Operator Tom Grey, and FirefighterlRescue Technician
Mark Laverty accepted the Proclamation.
Deputy Mayor Robert S. Miller spoke about residents of Hacienda Village being pleased
with the service of the City's Fire Fighters.
PUBLIC INPUT
Mr. Bob Rucci, 973 Turkey Hollow Circle, Winter Springs, Florida: spoke in support of
the proposed Canine Unit Agenda Item; stated that he was checking on alternative
properties for the Paw Park; and asked about the Lease documents.
Commissioner Michael S. Blake arrived at 6:43 p.m.
Mr. Mervin Warner, 673 Keuka Court, Winter Springs, Florida: as the President of the
Tuscawilla Homeowner's Association, Mr. Warner noted the support for the Canine Unit.
Ms. Loretta Ames, 150 3rd Street, Winter Springs, Florida: although not present, Mayor
Bush stated, "Loretta Ames - she also wanted to speak in favor of the canine unit."
Mr. Jim Bourg, 114 St. Johns Landing Drive, Winter Springs, Florida: commented about
the proposed Boat Dock Ordinance and inquired as to when this issue might be discussed
next?
Mayor Bush said "We will give your name and address to the [City] Clerk and as soon as
it is scheduled, we will let you know." Mr. Bourg stated, "Okay."
Mr. Tom Brown, 717 Adidas Road, Winter Springs, Florida: representing the Planning
and Zoning Board/Local Planning Agency, Mr. Brown spoke on Zoning concerns and
suggested that the Planning and Zoning Board/Local Planning Agency have a Joint
Workshop with the City Commission and the City Attorney.
Ms. Helga Schwarz, 720 Galloway Court, Winter Springs, Florida: spoke on behalf of
the Highlands Homeowner's Association on the proposed General Dollar store, and
commented on continued concerns with traffic issues, and the construction of a wall. Ms.
Schwarz also remarked about the Agenda Item related to the Labor.
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Discussion.
Mr. Bart Phillips, 7220 Lake Flay Circle, Orlando, Florida: commented on the
Elementary School being constructed on State Road 419 and fencing options.
With brief discussion on another Agenda Change, Mayor Bush noted that regarding
Regular Agenda Item "F" - "We will pull that Item off the Agenda."
Commissioner Edward Martinez, Jr. then read a personal statement into the record related
to harassment.
.:. .:. AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS
WERE DISCUSSED, BUT NOT NECESSARILY IN THE ORDER AS
DOCUMENTED. .:. .:.
CONSENT
CONSENT
3. A. Public Works Department
Requesting Authorization To Enter Into A Contractual Agreement For
Construction Of Fisher Road Roadway Improvements.
CONSENT
4. B. Office Of The City Mayor
Resolution Number 2003-37 - A Resolution Of The City Of Winter Springs, Florida,
Expressing Appreciation To Paul Krebs For His Service On The Oak Forest Wall
And Beautification District Advisory Committee.
CONSENT
5. C. Office Of The City Clerk
Approval Of The August 11,2003 City Commission Regular Meeting Minutes.
Deputy Mayor Miller stated that regarding the discussion during the City Commission
Meeting of August 11, 2003, related to the requested Variance for the proposed Gas
Station - "At the intersection of Hayes Road and [State Road] 434, during the
presentation, both the owner of the station and his Attorney - stood up here and handed us
a petition which informed us it was sixty (60) names of people who supported this. This
is a correction to the Minutes - I have since looked at this Petition and I just wanted to
point out to the Commission that I don't think the Petition has any standing at all because
in fact, what happened was somebody wrote down the street names and the people who
lived at those addresses - in the new Parkstone subdivision.
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None of them are signed. Somebody just put 'Name, Address, Winter Springs, Zip Code'
- and he said there were sixty (60), and there is only thirty-six (36), but this is not a
signed petition, so I just wanted the Commission to know that if this is part of the reason
that they supported this, that I don't consider this an appropriate way to convince us that
there is public support."
Deputy Mayor Miller added, "I just wanted to point that out to the Commission, it is a
correction of the Record, the Petition which was handed in, has no standing."
CONSENT
6. D. Office Of The City Attorney
Approve Settlement In The Amount Of $2,500.00 In Timothy Thomas v. City Of
Winter Springs.
CONSENT
7. E. Community Development Department
Requesting Commission Approval And Acceptance Of The Naming Of Three
Streets Beginning With The East State Road 434 Entrance Into Winter Springs
High School And Central Winds Park.
With discussion on the proposed street names, Deputy Mayor Miller stated, "1 thought
the City might want to review this - and call it Central Winds Park - that little cut-in and
then leave the rest of that roadway called Central Winds Park." Commissioner Sally
McGinnis said, "I concur." Deputy Mayor Miller added, "I would like to see it pulled off
and come back - if we all concur." Commissioner McLeod stated, "You can probably
get consensus from the Commission to move it forward, as the Commissioner has
requested. I agree with the Commissioner."
Further discussion.
Tape I/Side B
Discussion.
Commissioner Blake stated, "If you turn off of [State Road] 434 here, and if we name
that portion of the pavement the same as that portion of the pavement, you literally have
to go to a stop sign and turn left at an intersection, which essentially is a four (4) way
intersection, to stay on a road that is named the same. Would this portion of the road
down here, be named after the park as well? It becomes problematic I think and you are
confusing people [If one were to say] - '1 am at the intersection of a road, and the same
road... ",
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Commissioner McLeod suggested, "The easier answer to it is to the call the little section
Winter Springs Park Road. When you get to the end of it, which is a hundred yards, then
you go into Central Winds Parkway." Commissioner McLeod then said that the Winter
Springs High School Road name is too long, and preferred "Learning Tree Drive."
Mayor Bush then said, "Commissioners, would you like the Staff to rework this and bring
it back at the next Meeting?" Commissioner McLeod stated, "Yes." Commissioner
McGinnis said, "Yes." Commissioner McLeod then spoke about Hickory Grove Drive
and Blumberg Boulevard.
Mayor Bush then said, "For right now, Consent Item 'E' has been pulled off and will be
brought back by Staff with some of these comments made; and maybe before the next
Meeting, some of the next Commissioners could also meet with the Manager - so we can
decide on it the next time around."
"MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA, EXCLUDING ITEM 'E.'"
MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ. SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. DISCUSSION.
Commissioner McLeod stated, "In the Motion I did make to approve the [Gas] Station, it
had no bearing on that petition."
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
INFORMATIONAL
INFORMA TIONAL
8. A. Community Development Department
Advising The City Commission Of The Status Of Various Current Planning
Projects.
Discussion.
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INFORMATIONAL
9. B. Parks And Recreation Department
Would Like To Inform The City Commission Of The Status Of The Brick Wall
Project At Moss Park.
With brief discussion, Deputy Mayor Miller said, "I will get with Staff later on this."
INFORMATIONAL
10. C. Public Works Department
Recommends The Removal Of Trees Located At City Hall That Are Currently A
Maintenance Problem Due To Health And Location.
Discussion ensued with Mr. Michael Mingea, City Forester/Environrnental Inspector,
Community Development Department. Deputy Mayor Miller noted that no illustrations
were shown regarding the back of the building. With discussion, Deputy Mayor Miller
added, "I would like to have this brought back - and just give us a more definitive
identification of where the trees are, what you plan to do with them, so that we will
understand what is going to happen." Furthermore, Deputy Mayor Miller said, "I think it
would be appropriate to bring back the item, show us where the trees are on a graphic and
what has to be done, and why they can't be trimmed and that kind of thing."
Commissioner Blake suggested, "As we bring this back - I would just like to be
absolutely certain that we make decisions as to how we take trees down around City Hall,
the same way we make decisions about allowing permits for homeowners or citizens or
business owners, when they need to take trees down."
Mayor Bush then said, "Informational 10. C. then will be pulled."
INFORMATIONAL
11. D. Utility Department
Advising The City Commission Of The Proposal to Acquire the Tuskawilla Trails
Mobile Home Park Water Distribution System.
Brief discussion
"I WILL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE INFORMATIONAL
[AGENDA] - WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THAT ITEM, WHICH WILL BE
BROUGHT BACK." MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER. SECONDED
BY COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ. DISCUSSION.
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VOTE:
COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ: AYE
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
PUBLIC HEARINGS
12. A. Finance Department
Requesting The City Commission Hold A Public Hearing On The Non-Ad Valorem
Tax Assessment For Streetlighting Within The Country Club Village Subdivision
And Provide Directions As Deemed Appropriate.
Commissioner Blake left the dais at 7:33 p.m.
Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of this Agenda Item.
No one spoke.
The "Public Input" portion of this Agenda Item was closed.
"MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM 'A.'" MOTION BY COMMISSIONER
MARTINEZ. SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ: AYE
COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE
DEPUTYMAYORMILLER: AYE
Commissioner Blake returned to the dais at 7:34 p.m.
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
B. Not Used.
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13. C. Office Of The City Attorney
Requesting The City Commission Adopt Ordinance 2003-33 Relating To The
Creation Of A Local Public Nuisance Abatement Board, In Accordance With
Chapter 893, Florida Statutes.
Mayor Bush stated, "Could I have a Motion to read by 'Title' only?"
"SO MOVED." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ. SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER BLAKE. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Attorney Garganese read the Ordinance by "Title" only.
Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of this Agenda Item.
No one spoke.
The "Public Input" portion of this Agenda Item was closed.
Discussion.
Commissioner Martinez asked Attorney Garganese, "Are you or anyone else going to
train the Code Enforcement Board on assuming these responsibilities?" Attorney
Garganese responded, "Of course, yes."
"MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM 'c.'" MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR
MILLER. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ. DISCUSSION.
COMMISSIONER BLAKE SUGGESTED, "COULD WE HAVE A MOTION TO
MOVE THIS ON TO A SECOND READING FOR ADOPTION, BECAUSE THE
ITEM REALLY SUGGEStS THAT THIS IS AN ADOPTION HEARING?"
"I WILL AMEND MY MOTION - TO MOVE THIS TO A SECOND READING."
AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ. DISCUSSION.
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VOTE: (ON THE AMENDMENT)
DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE.
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
VOTE: (ON THE MOTION, AS AMENDED)
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
14. D. Community Development Department - Planning Division
Requests The City Commission Hold A Public Hearing For Second Reading And
Adoption Of Ordinance 2003-25, Rezoning Of Seven (7) Parcels Along State Road
434 From "R-1" To "C-l."
Attorney Garganese read the Ordinance by "Title" only.
Ms. Sahlstrom spoke on this Agenda Item.
Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of this Agenda Item.
No one spoke.
The "Public Input" portion of this Agenda Item was closed.
"I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER
MARTINEZ. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BLAKE. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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PUBLIC HEARINGS
15. E. Community Development Department - Planning Division
Requests The City Commission Hold A Public Hearing For First Reading Of
Ordinance 2003-28, Rezoning Seven (7) Parcels Along Belle Avenue From "C-2" To
"I-I."
Mayor Bush asked, "Can we have a Motion to read by 'Title' only."
"SO MOVED." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ. SECONDED.
DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE
COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Attorney Garganese read the Ordinance by "Title" only.
Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of this Agenda Item.
No one spoke.
The "Public Input" portion of this Agenda Item was closed.
Commissioner Blake spoke of the parcels in question, and said, "I would also recommend
that we advertise this Ordinance, that we make sure it is clear." Discussion ensued on
who will pay for items coming back. Commissioner Blake then said, "My only concern
is to make sure that the Land Owner understands that there is going to be a cost involved
in going forward, because they are not part of this Rezoning effort, and that they are not
surprised by that cost." Ms. Sahlstrom stated, "I can make that clear to them."
Discussion.
"AS THIS IS ADMINISTRATIVE IN NATURE, I AM GOING TO ASK THAT
WE TABLE THIS ITEM FOR TWO (2) WEEKS, TO ALLOW STAFF TO HAVE
FURTHER DISCUSSIONS WITH THE OWNER OF THAT PARCEL. IT SEEMS
TO ME FROM EVERYTHING THAT I HAVE HEARD THAT THAT OWNER
PROBABLY OUGHT TO WANT TO BE PART OF THIS ADMINISTRATIVE
REZONING, AND GO TO I-I." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BLAKE.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McLEOD. DISCUSSION.
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VOTE:
DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
16. F. Community Development Department - Planning Division
Requests The City Commission Hold A Public Hearing For First Reading Of
Ordinance 2003-29, Rezoning Thirty-One (31) Parcels Generally Located Along
State Road 419 And Old Sanford Oviedo Road From "C-2" To "I-I."
Mayor Bush stated, "This is the Agenda Item Eloise [Sahlstrom] addressed - about the
difference in the way it was advertised and what you are seeing tonight."
Mayor Bush then asked for a "Motion to read by 'Title' only."
"SO MOVED." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BLAKE. SECONDED.
DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Attorney Garganese read the Ordinance by "Title" only.
Ms. Sahlstrom presented this Agenda Item for consideration.
Discussion.
Tape 2/Side A
Further discussion.
Deputy Mayor Miller spoke of "Eighteen-wheelers" and said, "I would like to make sure
that as we go forward with this, that we are not automatically excluding those types of
vehicles from parking there."
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With discussion, Attorney Garganese stated, "Under the new Industrial Zoning District
that this Commission adopted, automotive storage and other kinds of storage yards of
non-hazardous materials are permitted." Deputy Mayor Miller then said, "So that would
take care of 'Eighteen-wheelers' being able to park on their premises."
Mr. Frank Pruitt, 501 Wade Street, Winter Springs, Florida: spoke briefly on this
Agenda Item.
City Manager Ronald W. McLemore pointed out that "General Contractors is a typical
use of 'Light Industrial,' and I think all we are talking about is some clarifying language
- and text changes; and I think all the Commission needs to go on record tonight
requesting that text change, and bring it back." With further discussion, Manager
McLemore added, "I think it is almost a form of a Scrivener's error, that it is not in
there."
Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of this Agenda Item.
Mr. Jimmy Fortner, 1203 Florida Avenue, St. Cloud, Florida: as the owner of Master
Construction that owns the property at 215 Old Sanford-Oviedo Road, Mr. Fortner asked
for "Clarity on the language to allow heavy equipment."
Deputy Mayor Miller said to Attorney Garganese, "Bulldozers and scrapers and those
heavy dump trucks, is that also included in our verbiage which you referred to earlier,
along with eighteen-wheelers?" Deputy Mayor Miller added, "I just want to make sure
we don't get caught with heavy bulldozers not considered in this area, so therefore it has
to be removed." Attorney Garganese then said, "We are going to come back with another
Ordinance just to clarify that specific use."
Mr. Bart Phillips, 7220 Lake Floy Circle, Orlando, Florida: addressed the City
Commission and spoke of three (3) parcels of property which he owns and said that "'C-
2' should be allowed in the Industrial Zone."
Manager McLemore spoke to Mr. Phillips about the "Area under the power lines - if that
is to be included in 'Light Industrial' for uses - I do not think a tree line is sufficient for a
buffer for the people who live across the street for that." Mr. Phillips then said, "So the
fence line is okay for the school zone?" Manager McLemore responded, "I would agree
with you on that point." Mr. Phillips then said, "That is a pretty heavy tree line, and I
would be more than glad to put up a fence." Manager McLemore said, "I am talking
more of a brick type fence that gives some real buffer between the single family
residences that live across the street from you, and an industrial area."
Manager McLemore added, "If we are going to extend 'Light Industrial' uses into that
area, I think the Commission needs to take additional action to buffer that area from the
people who are around it, which are basically single family users."
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Discussion ensued regarding the Zoning and whether Mr. Phillips was in violation of the
permitted use.
Ms. Helga Schwarz, 720 Galloway Court, Winter Springs, Florida: commented on what
was included in the related Ordinance.
Mr. Vincent Contestible, 200 Old Sanford-Oviedo Road, Winter Springs, Florida: spoke
of the size of machines on his property; related Zoning concerns; and what defines "Light
Industrial" and "Heavy Industrial" Permitted Uses in relation to his property.
Discussion ensued on what is included in "Heavy Industrial." Attorney Garganese said,
"I don't know the answer to his question whether or not this use would actually fit in one
of the permitted uses in 'I-I. ", Deputy Mayor Miller then said, "I think this Commission
would probably like - to have that information before we - at least I would - before we
move on this Ordinance."
Commissioner McLeod said to Attorney Garganese, "So, anybody that is there, will
continue to be able to operate there, and they would be grandfathered in at this time,
correct?" Attorney Garganese responded, "They may already fall into one of the
Permitted Uses." Commissioner McLeod then said, "But if they don't..." Attorney
Garganese added, "If they don't, Non-Conforming." Commissioner McLeod stated, "It
would be Non-Conforming, but they would be grand fathered Non-Conforming at this
time?" Attorney Garganese responded, "Correct." Furthermore, Commissioner McLeod
said, "I just want to make sure that no one had to move out of that Industrial Park, going
down the road, with an existing business."
The "Public Input" portion of this Agenda Item was closed.
MOTION "TO MOVE ORDINANCE 2003-29 TO A SECOND READING."
MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BLAKE. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER
MARTINEZ. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
"I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE AMOTION THAT WE DIRECT STAFF TO
BRING BACK TO US A CORRECTIVE ORDINANCE FOR THE '1-1' ZONING
DISTRICT THAT WILL ADDRESS THE ISSUES DISCUSSED THIS
EVENING." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BLAKE. SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER McLEOD. DISCUSSION.
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VOTE:
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ: AYE
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
17. G. Community Development Department - Planning Division
Requests The City Commission Hold A Public Hearing For First Reading Of
Ordinance 2003-31 Adopting A Small Scale FLUM Amendment Changing The
Future Land Use Map Designation Of One (1) Parcel Located At 901 State Road
434 (Corner Of Belle Avenue) From "Industrial" To "Commercial."
Mayor Bush asked for a "Motion to read by 'Title' only."
"SO MOVED." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BLAKE. SECONDED BY
DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Attorney Garganese read the Ordinance by "Title" only.
Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of this Agenda Item.
No one spoke.
The "Public Input" portion of this Agenda Item was closed.
Brief discussion.
"MOTION TO MOVE ORDINANCE 2003-31 TO A SECOND READING."
MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BLAKE. SECONDED. DISCUSSION.
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VOTE:
COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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ITEMS WERE DISCUSSED IN THE ORDER AS DOCUMENTED, FOLLOWED
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25. H. Community Development Department - Arborist
Recommends The City Commission Consider The Request Of Mr. Uwe Pagenkopf
To Remove 1 Specimen Long-Leaf Pine Tree, Approximately 21 Inches In
Diameter, From The West Side Of The Lot, In Order To Protect The Home
Structure.
Ms. Danielle Pagenkopf, 200 Chestnut Ridge Street, Winter Springs, Florida: addressed
the City Commission on this Request.
Discussion.
Tape 2/Side 8
Further discussion.
"I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THIS
REQUEST." MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER. SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER McLEOD. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: NAY
COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ: NAY
MOTION CARRIED.
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26. I. Police Department
Requesting Commission Approval And Acceptance Of A Donation From Tuscawilla
Home Owners Association In The Amount Of $5,000.00 To Purchase A Full Service
Canine And Ballistic Vest.
Chief of Police Daniel J. Kerr addressed the City Commission on this Agenda Item.
Discussion.
Commissioner McGinnis said, "I applaud the Tuscawilla HOA [Homeowner's
Association] for making this donation. I think it sets a very high standard for HOA's
[Homeowner's Associations] in Winter Springs - thank you."
"I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER
MARTINEZ. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McLEOD. DISCUSSION.
COMMISSIONER McLEOD STATED, "I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SAY
THANKS TO THE HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION OF TUSCA WILLA."
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Mayor Bush called a Break at 9:05 p.m.
The Meeting reconvened at 9:16 p.m.
REGULAR
18. A. Community Development Department
Presents A Variance Request By Stephen McCallister From Sections 6-2. And 6-84.
Of The City Code Of Ordinances.
Mr. John Baker, AICP, Senior Planner, Community Development Department spoke on
this Agenda Item with the City Commission.
Mr. Stephen McAllister, 653 Silvercreek Drive, Winter Springs, Florida: addressed the
City Commission on his request for a Variance.
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Discussion.
"I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE DENY THE VARIANCE AS
IT DOES NOT MEET THE SIX (6) VARIANCE REQUIREMENTS." MOTION
BY COMMISSIONER BLAKE. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS.
DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ: AYE
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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19. B. Community Development Department
Presents To The City Commission, The Final Engineering/Site Plan For The Dollar
General Store With The Removal Of 4 Healthy Specimen Trees.
Mr. Baker introduced this Agenda Item.
Commissioner Blake asked as to where were the Site Plans.
"I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE THIS UNTIL THE NEXT
MEETING." MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER.
MOTION DIED FOR LACK OF A SECOND.
Commissioner McGinnis stated, "I have met with the HOA [Homeowner's Association]
adjacent to this. They also would like to have a brick wall, but they would like to have in
writing that whatever the wall is, that it would be steam-cleaned, pressure-cleaned
annually - walls tend to get mildewed."
Ms. Sahlstrom handed out Site Plans to those on the dais.
Discussion.
Tape 3/Side A
Mr. Dennis Wood, 1925 Bartow Road, Lakeland, Florida: as the Site Engineer for this
project, Mr. Wood addressed the City Commission on maintenance concerns and stated,
"If a condition of approval is that some kind of maintenance responsibility, pressure-
washing the walls or something like that, I don't think there would be any concern about
that. They may have every intent to do that and be a good neighbor, etceteras."
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Deputy Mayor Miller stated, "You have assured us that this is going to be not the typical
store, but there are no Artists' renderings that would allow me to at least make an
analysis that it is going to fit in the neighborhood." Furthermore, Deputy Mayor Miller
said, "I would like to see all these details from the Staff."
Discussion ensued with Mr. Wood on the proposed building components. Deputy Mayor
Miller added, "Until I personally understand all the facets of this thing, and get a chance
to comment on it - see if we can't work out additional details - regarding the type of wall,
regarding what the front looks like."
Commissioner McGinnis stated, "I was hoping we would see an Artist's rendering of
what it is going to look like, because all I can envision now is a block building, which 1
hope it is not just a concrete block building. So, I think we need details. I agree."
Discussion ensued on a rendering shown to the City Commission. Commissioner
McGinnis stated, "That looks pretty much like a storage building to me. It does not look
like a commerce building, there are no windows on the side. I am just disappointed that
it does not have some style to it." Discussion followed on proposed landscaping and
architectural features.
Commissioner Blake said, "This is the first time that I have seen any rendering at all as to
what this building would look like and I would quite frankly tend to agree with
Commissioner McGinnis that it is just pretty much a rectangular box; and while some of
the materials may be an upgrade for what your folks tend to use, I think that is an
excellent start, but if there were a way to fix the roofline, and add some architectural
value to the roofline, which doesn't necessarily mean to go two (2) stories, but I think if
there was something other than what looks like a warehouse or a shed - something that
would give it a better chance of blending in with the predominantly residential character
of the area of which you propose to build it."
Discussion followed on the structure of the proposed building and features. In discussing
this with Mr. Wood, Commissioner McLeod pointed out that "You have a metal column
building with block infill. Ron [McLemore], this is far from what we are looking for on
[State Road] 434." Furthermore, Commissioner McLeod said, "1 realize it is nothing
more than a Butler@ Building with block - is what you are looking at Ron [McLemore],
unless you can bring us architectural drawings showing something different, even your
overhangs are all metal overhangs. 1 would suggest that we Table this until we have
some more detailed drawings, as far as the structure of this building. That building is
nothing at all of what I expect to see on [State Road] 434."
With further discussion, Commissioner McGinnis also suggested this Agenda Item be
Tabled.
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Commissioner McLeod said to Mr. Wood, "You need an architectural rendering
submitted to Mr. McLemore that will have some credence to get through the review."
Furthermore, Commissioner McLeod said to Mr. Wood, "I would direct you to go
directly to Mr. McLemore - and get it to him. He will decide whether or not he thinks it
needs to go to his Staff. Ifit doesn't get past him, there is no need to take it to Staff. And
then once he does that, then he will bring it to us." Manager McLemore stated, "I think 1
understand what you want. You want a quality building..." Commissioner McGinnis
added, "... With some architectural..." Manager McLemore then said, "... With some
relief, and some architectural details." .
With additional discussion on whether the Site Plan can be approved, Commissioner
McLeod stated, "As long as Dollar General understands the approval of the Site Plan
does not necessarily mean that this building is going on it."
"I MAKE A MOTION AT THIS TIME WE TABLE THIS UNTIL WHICH TIME
WE DO SEE A RENDERING COMING BACK." MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER McLEOD. SECONDED. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE
COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ: AYE
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
REGULAR
20. C. Community Development Department
Presents A Request By JDC Calhoun To Amend The Lighting Plan For The JDC
Calhoun Town Center Site.
Mr. Baker introduced this proposal. Commissioner Blake said, "Basically we are
memorializing the plan that we already agreed on - both sides to do - previously, with
the additional language about that potential spillover in those couple of areas."
"MOTION TO APPROVE." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BLAKE.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ. DISCUSSION.
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VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
REGULAR
21. D. Office Of The City Manager/Office Of The City Clerk
Requests The City Commission's Direction Regarding The Upcoming Performance
Review For The City Clerk.
"I WOULD APPRECIATE IT IF THE CLERK WOULD PROCEED AS SHE HAS
THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS AND PROVIDE US WITH A REPORT - WE
CAN ACT UPON IT, ONCE WE REVIEW THAT." MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER BLAKE. SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER.
COMMISSIONER BLAKE ADDED, "FEWER THAN 100 PAGES THIS TIME
PLEASE." DISCUSSION.
MANAGER McLEMORE SAID, "IN THE PAST, I HAD BROUGHT FORWARD
A PERFORMACE EVALUATION FOR YOU TO REVIEW. DO YOU WANT
ME TO DO THAT?" COMMISSIONER McLEOD SAID, "WE WOULD
PROBABLY LIKE YOUR INPUT, BUT OVERALL, WE WILL MAKE THE
FINAL DECISION." COMMISSIONER BLAKE ADDED, "YES, THAT IS
FINE."
MAYOR BUSH SAID TO CITY CLERK, ANDREA LORENZO-LUACES - "YOU
WILL GET WITH THE MANAGER." CITY CLERK LORENZO-LUACES
STATED, "SURE."
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ: AYE
COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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.:. .:. AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING TWO (2) REGULAR AGENDA
ITEMS WERE DISCUSSED IN THE ORDER AS DOCUMENTED, FOLLOWED
BY THE REST OF THE AGENDA. .:. .:.
REGULAR
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23. F. Office Of The City Manager
Requesting Commission Remove From The Table And Consider The City Labor
Attorney's Request For Increase In Fees.
Mayor Bush stated, "'23. F.' has been pulled at the request of the Manager" - as stated
earlier in the Meeting.
REGULAR
22. E. Office Of The City Clerk
Requests That The City Commission Remove From The Table And Then Approve
An Appointment To Replace Mr. Roy Prince Who Prior To His Recent Resignation
Has Served As The City Of Winter Springs' Alternate To The South Seminole And
North Orange County Wastewater Transmission Authority.
No action was taken during this Meeting.
REGULAR
24. G. Community Development Department
Requests That The Commission Approve The Final Subdivision Plat And
Homeowner Documents For Heritage Park And Authorize Their Recordation,
Subject To Conditions.
This Agenda Item was introduced by Mr. Baker, who said, "Staff recommends approval
subject to the Applicant reimbursing the City $800.00 for the City's Surveying
Consultants Fee."
Furthermore, Mr. Baker stated, "There was one request that Staff had made of the
Applicants' Surveyor that we want to have put on there, so that it is very clear that there
is an Easement from [State Road] 434 into the commercial property and that the folks in
Heritage Park understand that the commercial property has the right to have their
customers come in through there. The same company did the survey for Wagner's
Curve, the Plat, the Replat and now for this, so we are requesting that this area - that you
see here on the Wagner's Curve Replat - how it was nicely hatched in, it says
IngresslEgress Easement, we requested that their Surveyor provide that same really
noticeable hatching on this Plat and we would like to have that again, so there is no
question in anybody's mind, that the folks at that 1.2 acre commercial area have the right
to come in there.
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We have the Easement document - I have provided that to the Attorney, that they are
going to pay for half of the maintenance up to wherever the gate structure is. So we just
want to make sure that when the people buy in here, they know that these folks here have
the right to have traffic coming in and out and where they have the right to use it - so we
recommend approval subject to those conditions."
Tape 3/Side B
Discussion.
Mr. Tom Daly, Daly Design Group, Inc., 861 West Morse Boulevard, Suite 125, Winter
Park, Florida: addressed the City Commission's questions.
Commissioner Martinez asked Manager McLemore, "Where do we stand in negotiations
with reference to the trees?" Manager McLemore stated, "I am ready to bring you a
settlement at the next Meeting."
Further discussion.
MOTION TO APPROVE. MOTION. SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR
MILLER. DISCUSSION
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE
COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ: NAY
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
DEPUTYMAYORMILLER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
REGULAR
27. J. Community Development Department
Requests That The City Commission Schedule A Workshop Amending The City's
Regulations Affecting Detached Accessory Structures And Buildings.
"MOTION TO TABLE." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BLAKE.
MOTION DIED FOR LACK OF A SECOND.
The City Commission discussed possible dates for this Workshop. With a proposed
Meeting date of Monday, September 8, 2003, (prior to the Regular Meeting),
Commissioner McGinnis stated, "Good." Deputy Mayor Miller stated, "Good." Mayor
Bush summarized that the consensus for this Workshop was for "5:00 p.m. on September
8th," 2003.
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REPORTS
REPORTS
28. A. Office Of The City Attorney - Anthony A. Garganese, Esquire
Attorney Garganese informed the City Commission that "Seminole County and the City
of Oviedo did not appeal the decision of the Circuit Court on the Annexation."
Next, Attorney Garganese stated that "Regarding 'Binford v. the City of Winter Springs, '
we got an Order today from ludge Simmons ruling in the City's favor."
REPORTS
29. B. Office Of The City Manager - Ronald W. McLemore
Manager McLemore said that while on a recent vacation, he took numerous photographs
of Town Center Developments.
Secondly, Manager McLemore asked when the City Commission wanted to have a
Workshop on Boat Docks and on Permitted Uses.
Manager McLemore suggested, "Do you want me to put that in the form .of an Agenda
[Item] and bring it back to you at the next Meeting?" Deputy Mayor Miller stated,
"Yes." With further discussion on a possible date for a Workshop on Boat Docks, it was
agreed that this Workshop would be held on Monday, September 15th, 2003 - beginning
at 6:00 p.m.
As for a Workshop on Permitted Uses, Mayor Bush suggested "Bring it back as an
Agenda Item." Manager McLemore stated, "Okay."
Commissioner McLeod added, "If we do not complete our Workshop on the 8th, on the
[Accessory] Buildings, can we carry that to the 15th also?" Commissioner McGinnis
stated, "Sure." Mayor Bush agreed and said, "I think that would be a good idea."
Commissioner McLeod added, "To complete that, and then go into the Boat Docks?"
Mayor Bush said, "Does everybody agree to that that if we run out of time, on the 8th, we
will move that to the 15th as well?" Commissioner McGinnis said, "Good." Mayor Bush
summarized the consensus as, "Everybody is in agreement on that."
REPORTS
30. C. Office Of The City Clerk - Andrea Lorenzo-Luaces
No Report.
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REPORTS
31. D. Commission Seat Five - David W. McLeod
Commissioner McLeod inquired about the status of Nature's Way. Discussion.
REPORTS
32. E. Commission Seat One/Deputy Mayor - Robert S. Miller
Deputy Mayor Miller spoke of "Some problems in certain areas of the City in the past,
and some of them are still going on today, regarding the number of people living in a
residential house, in a property zoned 'Residential,' 'Single-Family. ", Deputy Mayor
Miller added, "I would like the City Attorney or City Staff - to look at what other cities
around us are doing, maybe even State-wide." With further discussion, Deputy Mayor
Miller then said, "I would like the City Staff or the Attorney to bring this back so we can
do the minimal type approach, as opposed to the maximum." With discussion, Deputy
Mayor Miller was asked when he would like this information and responded, "As soon as
possible." Attorney Garganese suggested, "Why don't I just put together an
Informational Item for you or an Agenda Item explaining the legal issues." Mayor Bush
then asked Deputy Mayor Miller, "Does that answer your request Commissioner Miller?"
Deputy Mayor Miller responded, "That will do."
REPORTS
33. F. Commission Seat Two - Michael S. Blake
Commissioner Blake stated, "20-357."
Secondly, Commissioner Blake spoke about the length of time remaining on the "Trash
contract," and inquired, "Are we getting as many complaints here at the City, as I get on
the service?" Commissioner Blake then said, "I think it is time for us to start looking."
Commissioner McGinnis added, "I agree." Discussion. Mayor Bush stated, "Kip
[Lockcuff, Public Works/Utility Department Director], is there anyway you can
summarize the complaints, or do you already do that - telephone calls from citizens?
And if so, maybe you could share that with the Commission." Mr. Lockcuff suggested an
"Informational Agenda Item."
Thirdly, Commissioner Blake stated, "I understand that the County would like for us to
enter into an Agreement to utilize their landfill?" Commissioner Blake then asked,
"Where do we stand with that? Is that something that is going to come before us?"
Manager McLemore stated, "It is going to come before you." Commissioner Blake
added, "It sounds like an issue that is right for an Interlocal Agreement, not just between
us and the County, but between all of the Cities and the County." Manager McLemore
added, "I agree."
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34. G. Commission Seat Three - Edward Martinez, Jr.
In regards to the problem with the number of people in a residence, Commissioner
Martinez noted that he was not in favor of this.
Commissioner Martinez commented on a recent donation to the Missing Children's
Center. Discussion.
REPORTS
35. H. Commission Seat Four - Sally McGinnis
Commissioner McGinnis also spoke of a recent donation to the Missing Children's
Center. With discussion on the policy, Commissioner McGinnis stated, "Maybe it is time
to revisit that." Deputy Mayor Miller stated, "If it is a one $500.00 contribution that is
involved right now, so far - and that was what Mayor [Paul P.] Partyka did - I would like
to know." Mayor Bush suggested, "Maybe you need to make this an Agenda Item and
the Commission needs to decide." With discussion, Commissioner McLeod remarked
that "Maybe the guidelines need to come back to us to look at." Manager McLemore
stated, "We'll bring it back."
REPORTS
36. I. Office Of The Mayor - John F. Bush
Mayor Bush commented on employees parking in the closest parking spaces at City Hall
and said that the Mayor and Commission's parking spaces "Should be reserved the nights
of Commission Meetings and Special Meetings, but to keep those spots, all six (6) of
them, during the day, is wrong." Discussion.
Next, Mayor Bush stated, "Today, Mr. McLemore and I reviewed the video that the City
had done two (2) years ago, which of course is pretty much out of date, and we are going
to get something together for the Commission to look at, in terms of possibly updating
that." Mayor Bush added, "We're going to get a price on it, how much it would cost to
update it, then we will bring it back."
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31. D. Commission Seat Five - David W. McLeod
Commissioner McLeod brought up an issue discussed at the last Regular Meeting about a
document announcing a Conference on Urban Development on September 11 th and lih,
and asked who was attending. Commissioner McLeod said to Manager McLemore, "On
my behalf, I would like to tell you to go."
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36. I. Office Of The Mayor - John F. Bush
Mayor Bush suggested that Members of the City Commission consider attending some of
the events that they receive notice about, and mentioned two (2) specific events -
Seminole County Public Schools' "100 Day Reception for the new Superintendent" and
the "Arts Alive in Seminole" events. Mayor Bush added, "I am going to send this
around, if you would like to go, you let the [City] Clerk know, and we will take it out of
the Mayor's Budget."
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31. D. Commission Seat Five - David W. McLeod
With further discussion on the Urban Development Conference on September 11 th and
lih, Mayor Bush said, "Is that something Ron [McLemore], you think some of the
Commissioners should go to?" Deputy Mayor Miller then stated, "Here we are with the
Town Center about a quarter built out, and I am really curious as to how other cities are
drawing and attracting people - to their Town Center's, to their Urban Renewal projects -
and I think at a Conference like that, you are probably going to meet many other people
that are very heavy into that." Furthermore, Commissioner McLeod added, "I would like
to know tomorrow, as to how this looks."
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Mayor Bush adjourned the Meeting at 11: 15 p.m.
RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED:
ANDREA LORENZO-LUACES, CMC
CITY CLERK
APPROVED:
JOHN F. BUSH
MAYOR
NOTE: These Minutes were approved at the
, 2003 Regular City Commission Meeting,
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