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NOVEMBER 27,2006
CALL TO ORDER
The Regular Meeting of Monday, November 27,2006 of the City Commission was called
to Order by Mayor John F. Bush at 6:30 p.m. in the Commission Chambers of the
Municipal Building (City Hall, 1126 East State Road 434, Winter Springs, Florida
32708).
Roll Call:
Mayor John F. Bush, present
Deputy Mayor Michael S. Blake, present
Commissioner Robert S. Miller, present
Commissioner Donald A. Gilmore, present
Commissioner Sally McGinnis, present
Commissioner Joanne M. Krebs, present
City Manager Ronald W. McLemore, present
City Attorney Anthony A. Garganese, present
The Pledge of Allegiance followed a Moment of Silence.
.:. .:. AGENDA NOTE: THE ADDITIONAL A WARDS AND PRESENT A TIONS
GIVEN FIRST, AS DOCUMENTED, WAS FOLLOWED BY THE REST OF THE
AGENDA. .:..:.
AWARDS AND PRESENTATIONS
Mayor Bush presented Deputy Mayor Michael S. Blake with a Key to the City in honor
of his Service.
PUBLIC INPUT
Mr. Bryan Wilson, 702 Heather Lane, Winter Springs, Florida: commented on health
concerns related to Petting Zoos along with safety concerns for the animals; and asked
the City Commission to ban Petting Zoos from City events.
Mr. Bob Rucci, 973 Turkey Hollow Circle, Winter Springs, Florida: spoke on the
timeline related to the City's Dog Park.
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Brief discussion.
Ms. Carla Wilson, 702 Heather Lane, Winter Springs, Florida: mentioned concerns with
children becoming ill as a result of Petting Zoos, and also asked that the City
Commission ban Petting Zoos from City events.
Ms. Connie Nadrowski, 915 Dyson Drive, Winter Springs, Florida: spoke on safety
issues and noted her support of Traffic Calming and sidewalks along Dyson Drive.
Mr. Larry Nadrowski, 915 Dyson Drive, Winter Springs, Florida: mentioned this was a
safety concern; further spoke on Traffic Calming and sidewalks; noted construction on
Lake Drive; and refern~d to recent discussions on this issue.
Ms. Pamela Carroll, 865 Dyson Drive, Winter Springs, Florida.' commented on
neighbors; asked the City Commission to postpone Consent Agenda Item "404" until the
new year; mentioned gravity walls; and recent Tuscawilla Homeowner's Association
discussions.
Mr. David Koile, 835 Dyson Drive, Winter Springs, Florida: commented on gravity
walls being constructed in front of his property.
Discussion.
Mr. Tom Waters, 1033 Antelope Trail, Winter Springs, Florida: suggested the upcoming
testimony related to Agenda Item "I DO" be considered; spoke on W ebsites related to
animals; and commented on animal care.
Ms. Patricia Koile, 835 Dyson Drive, Winter Springs, Florida.' mentioned her concern
with the original plans related to the Dyson Drive issue; and noted that no wall was
previously mentioned.
Mr. Roger Fisher, 800 Dyson Drive, Winter Springs, Florida.' suggested other designs
might be considered for Dyson Drive.
Mr. Brian Fields, P.E., City Engineer, Public Works Department said, "On the retaining
wall. Here's what we're looking at. This is the swale that's out there. The road is off the
page here, so you have a swale. And, then the swale grades back to the property line.
This is a right-of-way line.
So, if you remember, we moved the sidewalks out from next to the road on the opposite
sides of the swale and the sidewalks five feet (5') wide in some areas in order to grade it
back where's it's not too steep. If we graded it back at an angle like this, it would be a
few feet outside ofthe right-of-way onto the property owner's land.
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Just grading nothing - no permanent facilities - it would be our desire, we would
recommend grading it in that - manner. Mr. Fields continued, "If they would not allow
us to do that, then, we would build a retaining wall, which again, would be a maximum of
two feet (2') tall."
Mayor Bush asked, "By grading, then you do away with the wall?" Mr. Fields added,
"That's correct - be very glad to - meet with any residents who felt like they did not like
the look of the wall- did not want a wall. We can eliminate the wall."
Discussion.
Commissioner Donald A. Gilmore said, "Can't you move that closer to the swale? And,
maybe give it a little bit deeper swale at those points?"
Further discussion.
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AWARDS AND PRESENTATIONS
AWARDS AND PRESENT A nONS
100. Office Of The City Manager.
Requests The City Commission To Hear A Report From Dr. Ronald Brown
Regarding Petting Zoos.
Dr. Ronald Brown, 1991 Mohican Trail, Maitland, Florida: gave a Presentation on
health issues related to Petting Zoos.
Regarding the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention guidelines, Dr. Brown
commented, "They did come up with guidelines, and basically there are three (3)
important points, should Petting Zoos be allowed: Number one is Information and
Training. You have to train the people who are organizing these events, the volunteers as
to the potential for disease transmission and the importance of hand washing. You need
to prevent high-risk activities - I did see the pictures where there were a number of
unattended children in there. They were sitting on the ground, handling the animals and
things like that. That's really not acceptable behavior." Dr. Brown added, "You really
need to prevent the children, very small children from touching the animals and putting
their hands in their mouths."
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Continuing, Dr. Brown noted, "Another important thing that they found was that you
needed to separate the food and drink areas, and even the preparation areas way away
from the animal areas, so it is how it is all set up and again; proper disposal and handling
of the animal waste products and their bedding as well. As far as the visitors, what the
CDC (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention) recommends is that basically that you
post informational signs at the beginning and at the end of the exhibit so they funnel in
through a certain area and they're advised in advance that there is a risk of disease
transmission, and that it can be serious and even life-threatening, and that basically you
should kind of enter at your own risk.
And certainly, I am not here in any sort of legal advisory component tonight, so I would
defer to the Counsel for that. But, basically what they are saying is let the buyers beware
as they enter into the arena. Again, advising very young or very old or immune-
compromised people about risky behavior, and what to avoid. And, then at the exit point
of the arena or the transition point between the animals and the exit, again, more signs
stressing the importance of hand-washing."
Furthermore, Dr. Brown suggested, "The other thing is limiting contact. That's the
second of the big three (3) and by that they mean, you need to prohibit certain things in
the animal area. You shouldn't allow strollers in there, or pacifiers, or sippee-cups, baby
bottles. Things like that that potentially might fall on the ground or might come in
contact with the animal waste - obviously no food or drink should be allowed in the
animal area."
Continuing, Dr. Brown noted, "Hand-washing - it is the single most important element in
the whole plan, but the problem is that you have to have certain components to that.
Number one, is that you need to have enough hand-washing stations so that it doesn't
cause a back-up where people say, 'I will wash my hands later', or 'I'll come back', or
'I'm not going to stand in line for ten (10) minutes to do that' . You need to have
disposable towels. There are no good clinical studies - I would emphasize this that show
that these liquid hand gels are effective in eliminating E.coli [Escherichia coli] bacteria.
So, by simply handing out samples or having pump bottles of 'Purell' or whatever, that
will not cut it. It has to be soap and water. It has to be pressurized water, so you can't
have a holding tank situation."
Lastly, Dr. Brown stated, "And the last thing that they recommend is some sort of
informational sign advising what the signs and symptoms of E.coli [Escherichia coli] are
and some numbers to follow up with, but usually it is the local Health Department."
Discussion.
City Manager Ronald W. McLemore said, "Did you want this put back on an Agenda?"
Mayor Bush said, "Bring it up under the Seats."
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PUBLIC HEARINGS AGENDA
PUBLIC HEARINGS
200. Community Development Department - Planning Department
In Cooperation With The City Attorney And City Engineer Request That The City
Commission Hold A Public Hearing For Second Reading And Adoption Of
Ordinance 2006-20, Establishing A Methodology For Assessing Proportionate Fair-
Share Mitigation For Transportation Concurrency Management, Pursuant To The
Requirements Of Section 163.3180. (16), Florida Statutes.
City Attorney Anthony A. Garganese read the Ordinance by "Title" only.
Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
No one spoke.
Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
"MOTION TO APPROVE - '200'." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER KREBS.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
201. Community Development Department - Customer Service Division And
Office Of The City Attorney
Request That The City Commission Hold A Public Hearing For First Reading Of
Ordinance Number 2006-23, Which Amends The Winter Springs Code Of
Ordinances, Changing The Term "Occupational License Tax" To "Local Business
Tax", Consistent With Florida Law.
Mayor Bush asked, "Do I have a Motion to read by 'Title' only?"
"SO MOVED - '201'." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS.
SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE. DISCUSSION.
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VOTE:
DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Attorney Garganese read the Ordinance by "Title" only.
Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
No one spoke.
Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
"MOVE TO APPROVE." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS.
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS ADDED, "MOVE TO SECOND" [READING].
MAYOR BUSH REMARKED, "MOTION TO APPROVE - SECOND READING
BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER KREBS.
DISCUSSION."
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
REGULAR AGENDA
REGULAR
300. Community Development Department
Requesting The City Commission Consider And Approve A Final Engineering/Site
Plan For A 10,000 Square Foot Addition, With The Associated Ancillary
Improvements, To An Existing 2,500 Square Foot Office On 2.49 Acres Located On
The North Side Of State Road 434, Between Barclay Reserve And Barrington
Estates.
Mr. John Baker, AICP, Senior Planner, Community Development Department spoke on
this Agenda Item.
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Mr. Michael Craig, Allen Craig Civil Engineering Incorporated, 361 South Central
Avenue, Oviedo, Florida: spoke on the site design.
Discussion.
Commissioner Joanne M. Krebs said, "I noticed that the Vote from the Planning and
Zoning Board was a 3-2 Vote - and I don't see anything in the Minutes telling me about
any kind of conflict. I was wondering why there were two (2) that Voted against it?"
Mr. Baker answered, "I believe that two (2) of the P and Z (Planning and Zoning) Board
Members felt that the site could be redesigned to be more aesthetically pleasing. I
believe that was their thought. They did not review the Aesthetic Review - we have not
gotten to that."
Further discussion ensued on perimeter walls.
Commissioner Robert S. Miller said, "Where is the second pond?" Mr. Craig said, "The
first pond is not showing on this drawing. But, it is right here at the end of the parking
area." Commissioner Miller asked, "So, there will be a second pond there?" Mr. Craig
said, "Right." Commissioner Miller then inquired, "Why isn't it reflected on these?" Mr.
Craig said, "It is on another sheet of the plans."
On the issue of perimeter walls, Deputy Mayor Blake said, "Your Surveyor says they are
varying heights around the perimeter of the property. You mentioned the number five
and half feet (512') perhaps in some areas?" Mr. Craig stated, "Yes, and I'm just guessing
with that. I see the reference right now that this is a note that was in the original survey
which we start with as part of the design process and he's locating the wall without
giving the specific height of the area."
Deputy Mayor Blake stated, "If it is less than six feet (6') that would create an issue
wouldn't it Mr. Baker? Doesn't Code require that between 'Commercial' and
'Residential' Uses that the wall be a minimum of six feet (6') around the perimeter..."
Mr. Baker stated, "... Yes..." Deputy Mayor Blake continued, "... Unless - 1 know that at
times we have granted a Variance for a wall along Wetland areas and it has been stated
here, I believe, there is a Wetland area back in this area, where there is no wall, so we
would have to take up that issue and then we need to take up the issue in the Site Plan
approval process of any area around it, that is adjacent to a 'Residential' Use where the
wall is less than six feet (6'). Correct?" Mr. Baker stated, "I believe that's correct."
Mr. Craig stated, "I'd be happy to ask the Surveyor to go back and - obtain that
information if we believe it's critical."
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Furthermore, Deputy Mayor Blake mentioned, "There is a requirement for a commercial
development, and this is a 'Commercial' Usage..." Mr. Craig stated, "... Right." Mr.
Baker stated, "I would point out though that we did require Barclay [Reserve] to put in a
six foot (6') wall and we probably need to measure from the residential side and we can
confirm or if there's a problem, we can have that fixed." Deputy Mayor Blake added,
"So, that takes care of the west side. Correct?" Mr. Baker added, "I remember
specifically telling them to put in a six foot (6') wall. Yes." Deputy Mayor Blake stated,
"We just need to check and make sure."
Deputy Mayor Blake added, "Hopefully, it is six feet (6') and it is not an issue." Deputy
Mayor Blake said, "Even this wall down here as well which is Barrington [Estates] I
think?" Mr. Baker answered, "Yes, Sir." Deputy Mayor Blake stated, "You don't recall
if there's a requirement for six feet (6') at Barrington [Estates]?" Mr. Baker stated, "I
believe it was supposed to be six feet (6'). Can I verify that it was? No. I've never
checked the height of the wall."
Furthermore, Deputy Mayor Blake noted, "If we approve this tonight, it has to be subject
to the considerations of the wall and that is specifically if Barclay [Reserve] was required
to build six feet (6')." Deputy Mayor Blake continued, "If it is supposed to be six feet (6')
and if it's been inspected and approved, then I would suggest - probably on that Barclay
[Reserve] section, we are okay.
If there is a similar requirement for Barrington [Estates] within their Site Plan document
that shows it is going to be a six foot (6') wall and if we have inspected it and approved it,
then I would suggest that that is probably okay as well. This portion back here where
there is no wall, we probably need to have a Variance in order to not have a wall back
there or some finding by the Commission that relieves them of the obligation to put a
wall there." Mr. Baker said, "Perhaps a Waiver."
Deputy Mayor Blake said, "Whatever is appropriate. My only concern is, I want to make
sure that we are doing it right and thorough and we don't create another problem for
ourselves." Mr. Baker stated, "Yes, Sir."
Commissioner Gilmore stated, "A similar problem on the Barrington [Estates] side.
Because I note in here that apparently they have a swale that continues after the wall..."
Mr. Baker stated, "... I think the swale is on the Applicant's side of the wall; but, on the
Barrington [Estates] property. But, I don't believe that the Barrington [Estates] wall is
right on their property line..." Commissioner Gilmore stated, "... Because it appears here
that you have two (2) swales that are going to join together. Their swale and the
Applicant's swale. So, I think you just also need to be looking at the walls on both sides
and make sure we are in Compliance." Mr. Baker stated, "Yes, Sir."
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"MOTION TO APPROVE - PENDING THE AESTHETIC REVIEW AND THE
HEIGHTH OF THE WALLS." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS.
MAYOR BUSH NOTED, "THE WALLS MEET THE MINIMUM SIX FOOT (6')
REQUIREMENT." COMMISSIONER McGINNIS ADDED, "RIGHT."
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER GILMORE. DISCUSSION.
DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE STATED, "I AM NOT SURE IF THAT MOTION
GETS US TO WHERE WE NEED TO BE ON THIS. I WOULD ASK THE STAFF
TO SUGGEST SOME LANGUAGE THAT WOULD PROVIDE THE CLARITY
THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED TO GO FORWARD ON - BOTH THE
REQUIRED VARIANCE OR WAIVER ON THAT SEGMENT WHERE THERE
IS NO WALL AND GOING THROUGH THE APPROPRIATE STEPS TO
ASCERTAIN WHETHER OR NOT THE TWO (2) WALLS ON THE EAST AND
THE WEST EDGE OF THE PROPERTY - AND THAT ON THE NORTH EDGE
AS WELL, ARE INDEED SIX FEET (6'). AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION BY
DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MILLER.
DISCUSSION.
VOTE: (AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION)
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
VOTE: (ON THE MOTION, AS AMENDED)
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
CONSENT AGENDA
CONSENT
400. Public Works Department And Capital Projects Division
Requesting Approval Of The Subsequent Contract Agreement With Progress
Energy For Installation Of Streetlights Phase 4, 5, 6, And 8 As Part Of The
Tuscawilla Lighting And Beautification District Phase 2 Beautification Project.
This Agenda Item was not discussed.
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CONSENT
401. Office Of The City Manager
Requests Authorization To Enter Into Contractual Services With Nabors, Giblin &
Nickerson, P.A. (NG&N) For The Tuscawilla Lighting And Beautification District
Phase I And II Revisions And Public Hearings. Additionally, A Supplemental
Appropriation Is Requested From The Tuscawilla Lighting And Beautification
District Phase I Maintenance Fund #184 In The Amount Of $5,000.00 To Cover
These Additional Services.
Brief discussion.
CONSENT
40.1.1 Office Of The City Manager
Requests Authorization To Enter Into Contractual Services With Government
Services Group, Inc. (GSG) For The Oak Forest Wall Neighborhood Improvements
Assessment Program For The 2007 Tax Roll. Additionally, Due To The Increased
Scope Of Services, A Supplemental Appropriation Is Requested From The Oak
Forest Maintenance Fund #191 In The Amount Of $2,450.00 To Cover Government
Services Group, Inc. (GSG) Additional Services In Fiscal Year 2007 Only.
Discussion.
CONSENT
401.2 Office Of The City Manager
Requests Authorization To Enter Into Contractual Services With Government
Services Group, Inc. (GSG) For The Tuscawilla Lighting And Beautification
District Assessment Program For The 2007 Tax Roll. Additionally, Due To The
Increased Scope Of Services, A Supplemental Appropriation Is Requested From
The Tuscawilla Lighting And Beautification District Maintenance Fund Phase I
#184 In The Amount Of $3,000.00 To Cover Government Services Group, Inc.
(GSG) Additional Services In Fiscal Year 2007 Only.
Brief discussion.
CONSENT
402. Office Of The City Manager
Requesting That The City Commission Adopt Resolution Number 2006-57
Amending The Fiscal Year 2005-2006 Budget.
No discussion.
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CONSENT
403. Community Development Department And Urban Beautification Services
Division
Requesting Approval Authorizing The Execution Of A Second Amendment To The
Interlocal Agreement With Seminole County For Maintenance Of The Cross
Seminole Trail.
Commissioner Sally McGinnis said, "I would just hope that some of these trees would be
placed at the benches." Mr. Steven Richart, Urban Beautification Services Division
Manager, Community Development Department stated, "Yes."
CONSENT
404. Public Works Department
Requesting Approval To Enter Into A Contract With Sunshine Building And
Development For The Construction Of The Dyson Drive Sidewalks Piggybacking
Off Of Seminole County Contract IFB-3076-03/JVP.
There was no discussion on this Agenda Item.
CONSENT
405. Office Of The City Manager
Requesting The City Commission To Authorize The Mayor To Send A Letter
Supporting Increased Funding For The Seminole County Community College
Public Safety Driver Training Track To The County Commission.
This Agenda Item was not discussed.
CONSENT
406. Office Of The City Clerk
Requesting Approval Of The November 13, 2006 Regular City Commission Meeting
Minutes.
No discussion.
CONSENT
407. Office Of The City Clerk
Requesting Approval Of The November 14, 2006 Special City Commission Meeting
Minutes.
There was no discussion on this Agenda Item.
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CONSENT
408. Office Of The City Clerk
Requesting Approval Of The November 20,2006 Special City Commission Meeting
Minutes.
This Agenda Item was not discussed.
"MOVE FOR APPROVAL (CONSENT AGENDA)." MOTION BY DEPUTY
MAYOR BLAKE. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER KREBS. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
INFORMATIONAL AGENDA
INFORMATIONAL
500. Community Development Department
Advising The City Commission Of The Status Of Various Current Planning
Projects.
Mr. Randy Stevenson, ASLA, Director, Community Development Department spoke on
item (17) of this Agenda Item for discussion.
Mr. Stevenson said, "At the end of this Agenda Item - it says, 'The City Attorney's
Office and Staff have been working on a draft Development Agreement'. That was a
work that was in progress a number of months ago. As you see, the last dated update we
have is 10/23 [/06]. We have proposed those changes back to the Developer. Last we
heard they were in the process of trying to get their Final Engineering and their
Development Agreement together to bring forward to you at the same time, as we usually
do. At this point, Staff is not doing any ongoing work with these Developers.
We have not officially heard as to whether or not this project is continued to be a 'Go' or
not. So, that just gives you the latest update that we have. I can make sure I call the
Developer prior to the next Meeting and make sure we have that update on your list
here. "
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With discussion, Commissioner Miller said, "You need to bring to US, I think, before it
gets too far along and people are making plans." Mr. Stevenson said, "We will make an
attempt to get it to you."
Furthermore, Commissioner Miller added, "If they're really getting serious about this, I
think you better bring it to us long before they come up with their final ideas, I mean,
spend a lot of money on it." Mr. Stevenson said, "We will make efforts to contact them
tomorrow to see where they're at." Commissioner Miller stated, "Please do - and make it
an Informational Item, if you would. Just what they are thinking." Mr. Stevenson stated,
"Yes, Sir." Commissioner Miller said, "Thanks."
INFORMATIONAL
501. Police Department
Informing The City Commission Of Its Grant Award Of $4,684.00 From Florida
Department Of Law Enforcement.
There was no discussion on this Agenda Item.
"MOTION TO APPROVE" [INFORMATIONAL AGENDA]. MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER MILLER. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS.
DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGININS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
REPORTS
REPORTS
600. Office Of The City Attorney - Anthony A. Garganese, Esquire
Attorney Garganese stated, "Pending lawsuit, Highland Homeowner's Association versus
the City of Winter Springs. As you know that matter has been expedited and the Final
Hearing starts on Wednesday at 9:30 a.m. in the City Commission Chambers. We're
getting ready to put on the City's defense."
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Continuing, Attorney Garganese noted, "Today, I had an opportunity to brief each one of
you individually regarding an issue that is, I think needs to be addressed. I don't want to
get into any strategic issues at this point in a public setting."
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Regarding Attorney fees, Attorney Garganese stated, "The Developer's Attorney has
filed a Motion for Sanctions of Attorney Fees against the Highlands Homeowner's
Association. The claim is that there's no basis in law or fact to support the Petition that
they filed against the City and the Department of Community Affairs. We have been
through expedited discovery in this matter based on the discovery to date. We don't
believe that the Highlands Homeowner's Association can support their Petition in the
allegations. As I mentioned to each one of you individually, they don't have any
professional experts that are going to be testifying on their behalf."
Furthermore, Attorney Garganese remarked, "Under the circumstances, if the City wants
to preserve its right to obtain Attorney Fees and costs at a later date after Final Hearing,
it's my recommendation that you file a Motion for Attorney Fees and potentially
sanctions, at this time, prior to the Final Hearing which is scheduled for Wednesday,
(November 29,2006)."
"I WOULD LIKE TO AUTHORIZE THE ATTORNEY TO FILE THAT
MOTION." MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE. SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER KREBS. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Attorney Garganese then wished Deputy Mayor Blake the best in his future endeavors.
REPORTS
601. Office Of The City Manager - Ronald W. McLemore
Manager McLemore congratulated Deputy Mayor Blake on the Motions he has made
over the years which have moved the City along.
Secondly, Manager McLemore remarked about impressive neighborhoods III Ft.
Lauderdale, Florida which had their street systems traffic calmed.
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REPORTS
602. Office Of The City Clerk - Andrea Lorenzo-Luaces, CMC
City Clerk Andrea Lorenzo-Luaces told Deputy Mayor Blake it had been a pleasure
working with him.
Furthermore, Clerk Lorenzo-Luaces spoke for the Record on the Seminole County
Supervisor of Elections' "Certificate of Elections" for Mayor John Bush, and
Commissioner-Elect Rick Brown, and Commissioner Sally McGinnis.
.:..:. AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING REPORTS WERE DISCUSSED
NEXT, IN THE ORDER DOCUMENTED. .:. .:.
REPORTS
REPORTS
604. Commission Seat Four - Sally McGinnis
Commissioner McGinnis wished Deputy Mayor Blake the best.
Next, Commissioner McGinnis stated, "I wanted to tell Chuck Pula (Director, Parks and
Recreation Department) - that 1 commend his Parks and Rec book, the latest one. Since
then, we've now received another prestigious award; and it occurred to me that the
partnership that we formed with WMFE [TV (Channel 24)] this might be an opportunity
to talk to them and maybe have - Chuck (Pula) talk on one of their Programs - on what is
involved in maintaining and producing Award winning parks." Commissioner McGinnis
added, "We made a partnership and we need to start working on that."
Commissioner McGinnis suggested a possible CALNO (Council of Local Governments
in Seminole County) project - and explained, "I have been working with a woman in
Winter Springs who was evicted, she has three (3) children, and getting her connected for
rent was fine. But, it seems that there is no place to go for monies for utility turn-ons.
So, using the resources - at hand - working with the Community Alliance, 1 spoke to
Captain Barnett at the Sheriff S Department and he said this occurs every once in a while
in every City. And, he thought it would be a good idea if all of the cities would talk
about this and have a small fund to use for that purpose. Mayor, if you would take that to
CALNO (Council of Local Governments in Seminole County) - just discuss it." Mayor
Bush stated, "Be glad to."
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Continuing, Commissioner McGinnis asked, "Do we have an update on the road cuts?
Well, next time, give us an update on the road cuts." Mayor Bush added, {{In front of
Brusters, Miller's School Supply." Commissioner McGinnis stated, {{Cumberland
Farms - (State Road) 434." Mr. Fields stated, {{DOT (Department of Transportation)
came back with a few comments. We responded and it's going back in for the permit.
Should be in this week if it's not in already. There's one issue that the DOT
(Department of Transportation) raised at the entrance of Costa Rica [Drive]. "
While presenting photographs, Mr. Fields added, "This is the intersection of Costa
Rica [Drive] into Hacienda Village, and [State Road] 434 - this is Brusters right over
here. What was proposed was to eliminate this narrow concrete median in front of
Brusters and the shopping development over here and return that to a center turn lane.
DOT (Department of Transportation) agreed with that. They came back and - they're
concerned that vehicles coming out of here and possibly making a movement like this,
around this median nose here; and recommended that we consider making this a full
median opening; which would require taking out probably a substantial portion - the
landscaped portion of this island right here. Up to probably about the curb return back
here. And, taking out this whole section here, allowing left out of Costa Rica [Drive]
onto [State Road] 434."
With discussion, Commissioner Miller stated, "I am not in favor of taking that out. "
Commissioner McGinnis added, "I agree with you Commissioner. However, I can tell
you, I don't want to see empty storefronts. "
Discussion.
Mayor Bush said, "Bringing this back as an Agenda Item is a good idea."
Commissioner McGinnis said, "Yes, I think so." There were no objections by the City
Commissioners.
Commissioner McGinnis said, "The issue came up tonight about a Report or a Vote, or
the feelings regarding a recommendation from the P and Z (Planning and Zoning Board).
We had discussed that it would be a good idea if the Chairperson of that Committee
rendered a Report to the Commission. That has never happened. I would like to bring
that back and see if we have Consensus on asking the P and Z (Planning and Zoning
Board) to in fact, render an opinion to us regarding their decisions."
With discussion, Attorney Garganese said, "It's just simply a letter from the P and Z
(Planning and Zoning) Chairperson stating what the action of the Planning and Zoning
Board was on the Item." Attorney Gargarese added, "It's more succinct and it's just
transmitting the recommendation of the P and Z (Planning and Zoning Board) in a very
concise manner."
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Manager McLemore asked, "Who prepares that?" Attorney Garganese added, "It's the
Chairperson in conjunction with the Board Secretary, and it's on City letterhead and it's
just signed off by the Chairperson."
"I AM PREPARED TO MAKE A MOTION - THAT WE NOT HAVE PETTING
ZOOS IN WINTER SPRINGS." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS.
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS ADDED, " AS PART OF CITY FUNCTIONS."
MOTION DIED FOR LACK OF A SECOND.
REPORTS
605. Commission Seat Five - Joanne M. Krebs
Commissioner Krebs stated, "Those banners that are up, Verizon banners and Subway
banners. Are those allowable?" Captain Glenn Tolleson, Police Department stated,
"Temporarily they are." Commissioner Krebs stated, "If we could look into that."
Attorney Garganese stated, "You may want to double check with the new Sign Code too;
to make sure they are in Compliance with the new Regulation."
Commissioner Krebs mentioned Deputy Mayor Blake leaving office and referenced the
Sunshine Law.
Regarding the Tuscawilla Trails Community, Commissioner Krebs mentioned receiving a
letter from Mr. Fred Barone and said to Mayor Bush, "Apparently, he thinks you gave a
word about a wall?"
With discussion, Manager McLemore said, "They're not going to build a brick wall. But,
they are willing to do some other types of things that might be quite effective."
Commissioner Krebs asked, "Will that come before us before a final decision is made?"
Manager McLemore answered, "We'll report back to you."
Mayor Bush added, "We're meeting Wednesday at 10:30 as a matter of fact, if you would
like to come -let Andrea [Lorenzo-Luaces, City Clerk] know, so we can post it."
REPORTS
606 Office Of The Mayor - John F. Bush
Mayor Bush said, "I would like to have the Commission - get the WiFi issue back on our
Agenda at some point in the near future." Manager McLemore stated, "You will be
contacted even before then (January 2007)."
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Next, Mayor Bush said, "The landscaping or buffer along the homes in Sybilwood Circle
that are contiguous to Trotwood Park - we've got some issues there with the contract we
have with our soccer people - allows them to be there until eight o'clock even though it
gets dark now at six 0' clock; so they turn their headlights on; and it shines over into the
homes along Sybilwood [Circle]. I would like to see the Commission consider - getting
some landscaping along that area, the berm - fence, or whatever, to give those
homeowners some relief from - not only the noise, but the lights in the evening and
things like that, when the people don't stick with their contract of when they should leave
the park." Manager McLemore stated, "We need to Agenda this." Mayor Bush said,
"Alright."
Mayor Bush said, "Even though we're not even close to doing our next Budget cycle, I
would like to again ask the Commission to consider setting aside a given number -
amount of money, such as Altamonte Springs does for the charitable organizations that
come to us and ask for donations. We have had several of these over the past year.
Altamonte [Springs] - I think has a good method. This is a set amount of money. They
have an Application procedure. When the monies are gone, it is gone."
Continuing, Mayor Bush said, "As a result of this last Election, a lot of misinformation
was put out about the City." Mayor Bush added, "Again, I want to encourage the
Commission to look at ways to better communicate with the citizens. I think it would be
worthwhile. "
Lastly, Mayor Bush thanked Deputy Mayor Blake for his contributions; and also thanked
his wife, Lori Blake.
REPORTS
607. Commission Seat Three - Donald A. Gilmore
Commissioner Gilmore spoke of Dyson Drive and retaining walls and stated, "If we have
to put meandering sidewalks in which I think we are doing to get around trees, I think we
should do everything possible to avoid any of these retaining walls." Mr. Fields stated,
"We intend to."
Regarding Cell Towers, Commissioner Gilmore said, "When are we getting back with the
Cell Tower issue? Attorney Garganese said, "It is scheduled to go to Planning and
Zoning [Board] in December."
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Commissioner Gilmore spoke about utility disconnects, and mentioned, "They can't sell
their property, we can put a lien on their place. So, we have certain protections, I would
think. It may be different with an apartment owner." Commissioner Gilmore added, "It
is an issue that crops up periodically; it is the issues that get Mayor and Commissioners
out of bed or when they are out of town, they are getting phone calls and have to get
involved, especially on weekends - I would certainly hope we can look at more on that
issue. "
Next, Commissioner Gilmore stated, "I do support - this Trotwood - I think there are
some problems on Trotwood Park - especially since we are going through a redesign over
there and adding facilities. We certainly can look at that."
Lastly, Commissioner Gilmore complimented Deputy Mayor Blake on his service and
contributions.
REPORTS
608. Commission Seat One - Robert S. Miller
Commissioner Miller spoke on Cell Towers and suggested everyone drive down Lake
Drive to see the construction and the Cell Tower on the power lines.
Commissioner Miller said, "I would like to get the Mayor's attention - I know we have
some friends up at the County Commission and I think it is time again now to start
bugging the County on the Trail around our Industrial Park." Commissioner Miller
added, "I would really like to see you get with the County Commission on this and try to
encourage them."
Continuing, Commissioner Miller said, "I would also like to get a Report from Staff -
maybe an Informational Item or a briefing in the next month on the Traffic Calming for
Murphy Road. I have heard several comments here this evening about Lake Drive. And,
they actually are going - that whole area right at the end of Murphy Road now, it is all
starting to get four-Ianed.
That subdivision, that's at the end of Murphy Road is also building out very quickly. I
think if you look at the traffic on Murphy Road, you will find that it is already increased
significantly." Additionally, Commissioner Miller stated, "Traffic Calming may not be
the answer, but I would like to see some planning come before us - at some point, I think
we need to go to the people on Murphy Road in that area; and go through same exercise
with Ron (McLemore) and the rest ofthe City."
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Next, Commissioner Miller said, "The GreeneWay. Are you moving aggressively?"
Commissioner Miller added, "I am talking about the tolls, Mayor, because all we need is
one of those readers on Red Bug [Lake Road], which would automatically tell the master
computer, wherever that is in the sky, that anybody that gets on [State Road] 434 at
Winter Springs, if they get off at Red Bug [Lake Road], the computer automatically says,
remit half of the seventy-five cents that we just charged him and credit his account."
Mayor Bush answered, "On December the 4th, [2006] at 9:30 [a.m.] is Legislative Day at
the County Services Building and 1 will make a comment."
Commissioner Miller then complimented Deputy Mayor Blake.
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REPORTS
603. Commission Seat Two/Deputy Mayor - Michael S. Blake
Regarding the Trail Bridge, Deputy Mayor Blake asked, "Are there four (4) flag poles on
top of that bridge? And those four (4) flag poles have been flagless since the day the
bridge has been opened." Manager McLemore said, "We ought to ask them if we can fly
our own." Deputy Mayor Blake said, "Maybe that would be another job for the Mayor to
do."
Deputy Mayor Blake thanked everybody for, "Allowing me to be honored by serving the
citizens - it has been an amazing ten (10) years." Deputy Mayor Blake then spoke
individually about everyone on the dais.
Furthermore, Deputy Mayor Blake said, "We have some of the best Department Heads
that any City could ever have," and added, "The Department Heads have a really tough
job because they are kind of cut right in the middle here between actually being
responsible for getting the things done and having to make up a reason for why it didn't
get done. When ordinarily, it's our fault when it doesn't happen. And it is their credit
when it does." Deputy Mayor Blake then said, "Pass it around. My thanks to you
because anything that really got done, got done by you folks, and your staff and we know
that and appreciate it."
Then, Deputy Mayor Blake said, "John Baker, [Ms.] Eloise Sahlstrom, [AICP, ASLA,
Senior Planner, Community Development Department] 'Special Mention'." Deputy
Mayor Blake added, "You guys have really made a difference in terms of your
commitment. And I know you are here early. 1 know you stay late and the job that you
do, when you drive out of City Hall and you look around, the quality that you see is
primarily because of the job that you two (2) do and 1 want to thank you personally
because it really made a difference. So, thank you very much."
Further comments.
ADJOURNMENT
Mayor Bush adjourned the Regular Meeting at 9:05 p.m.
RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED:
DEBBIE FRANKLIN, DEPUTY CITY CLERK AND
ANDREA LORENZO-LUACES, CMC
CITY CLERK
APPROVED:
JOHN F. BUSH
MAYOR
NOTE: These Minutes were approved at the
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, 2006 Regular City Commission Meeting.