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COMMISSION AGENDA
ITEM C
Consent X
Informational
Public Hearings
Regular
February 10.2003
Regular Meeting
Mgr. / Dept.
Authorization
CONSENT
C. Office Of The City Clerk
Approval Of The January 27,2003 City Commission Regular Meeting Minutes.
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CALL TO ORDER
The Regular Meeting of January 27,2003 of the City Commission was called to order by
Mayor John F. Bush at 6:33 p.m. in the Commission Chambers ofthe Municipal Building
(City Hall, 1126 East State Road 434, Winter Springs, Florida 32708).
ROLL CALL:
Mayor John F. Bush, present
Deputy Mayor Robert S. Miller, present
. Commissioner Michael S. Blake, present
Commissioner Edward Martinez, Jr" present
Commissioner Sally McGinnis, present
Commissioner David W. McLeod, present
City Manager Ronald W. McLemore, present
City Attorney Anthony A. Garganese, present
After a moment of silence, the Pledge of Allegiance was recited.
Regarding Agenda Changes, Mayor Bush stated, "Number 24, the Public Hearing - First
Reading of an Ordinance regarding the Tuscawilla County Club Village Streetlight
Maintenance District, they have asked that this be delayed to a future Meeting. Also, 29
which is - a Regular Agenda Item requesting the Commission approve a Development
Agreement for - the Villagio, next to Stone Gable; they called this afternoon and asked
the Manager to remove it from the Agenda." Additionally Mayor Bush stated that the
Agenda Items "32, 33, 34, 35, and 36" are going to be pulled off and will be discussed at
our next Regular Meeting." Commissioner Michael S. Blake spoke about Item 15. -
Consent 'f' and stated, "I wanted to pull it for separate consideration."
Additionally, City Attorney Anthony A. Garganese stated, "On Consent 6., I just want to
bring to the Commission's attention that the contract that is included in that Agenda is
not the Contract that the City will be executing, That was provided by the Fireworks
Company, "
.:..:. AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING AWARDS AND PRESENTATIONS
ARE NOT DOCUMENTED IN THE ORDER THEY WERE PRESENTED. .:. .:.
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, AWARDS AND PRESENTATIONS
AWARDS AND PRESENTATIONS
1. A. Office Of The Mayor
Presentation Of Resolution 2002-40 To Former Mayor Paul P. Partyka, In
Recognition Of His Service To The City Of Winter Springs.
Mayor Bush presented a Resolution in recognition of former Mayor Paul P. Partyka's
contributions to the City.
AWARDS AND PRESENTATIONS
2. B. Office Of The Mayor
Presentation Of Resolution 2002-41 To Former Commissioner Cindy Gennell, In
Recognition Of Her Service To The City Of Winter Springs.
A Resolution was presented by Mayor Bush to former Commissioner Cindy Gennell in
recognition of her past contributions to the City.
A WARDS AND PRESENTATIONS
3. C. Office Of The Mayor
Presentation Of A Proclamation To Ms. Kelly Thompson In Recognition Of Being
Named Teacher Of The Year For Winter Springs High School.
Mayor Bush presented a Proclamation in recognition of Ms. Thompson being awarded
"Teacher of the Year" for Winter Springs High School.
AWARDS AND PRESENTATIONS
4. D. Office Of The Mayor
Presentation Of A Proclamation To Ms. Lily Gordon In Recognition Of Being
Named Non Instructional Employee Of'rhe Year For Winter Springs High School.
A Proclamation was presented by Mayor Bush to honor Ms. Gordon being named "Non
Instructional Employee of the Year" for Winter Springs High School.
AWARDS AND PRESEj\/TATIONS
5. E. Office Of The Mayor
Presentation Of A Proclamation To Sergeant Victor Frasqueri In Recognition Of
Being Named Army Instructor Of The Year For The State Of Florida.
Mayor Bush presented a Proclamation to Sargeant Frasqueri in honor of him being
named as the "Army Instructor ofthe Year for the State of Florida."
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.:..:. AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING AWARD AND PRESENTATION
WAS NOT NOTED ON THE AGENDA BUT WAS PRESENTED NEXT BY
MAYOR BUSH. .:. .:.
AWARDS AND PRESENTATIONS
AWARDS AND PRESENTATIONS
Office Of The Mayor
Presentation Of A Plaque To Commissioner Michael S. Blake In Honor Of His
Being Elected As President Of The Tri-County League Of Cities.
Mayor Bush presented a Plaque to Commissioner Blake in honor of his being elected as
President of the Tri-County League of Cities for 2003.
PUBLIC INPUT
Mr. George W Seely, 211 Birch Terrace Winter Springs, Florida: inquired about the
reasoning behind the transfer of funds noted in Consent Agenda Item "E."
Ms. Tracy Lesse, 1 Laurel Oaks Drive, Winter Springs, Florida: as the Property Manager
for Golf Terrace Apartments, Ms.. Lesse spoke of her concern that residents of this
complex were being cited for commercial vehicle violations and suggested an
Amendment to the Code.
Commissioner Blake inquired about the zoning classification of this property [Golf
Terrace Apartments] and stated, "I think this is an area that we could look at and I would
like Staff to take a look at this." Further, Commissioner Blake stated that "There may be
ways to work within that type of environment to provide perhaps a sector or two (2)
within the complex where parking - could be approved - Staff should take a look at this
and bring it back, whether they think it is feasible to do so or not."
Mr. Bill Rudolph Jr., 19 Laurel Oaks Drive, Winter Springs, Florida: as a resident of
Golf Terrace Apartments, Mr. Rudolph spoke of a personal situation involving his
commercial vehicle.
CONSENT
CONSENT
6. A. Parks And Recreation Department
Requesting The City Commission To Accept The Bid Of Pyrotecnico And Authorize
The City Manager To Execute A Contract With The Approved Bidder For A
Fireworks Display On July 4, 2003.
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Attorney Gargariese spoke on this Agenda Item and explained that a contract similar to
what was ,used last year would be substituted for the one found in the Agenda packets.
Mayor Bush stated, "I mentioned to the Manager that in the future, not for this contract,
but for the future, we may want to look into going to more than a one year contract,
because sometimes they will low-ball it to get it and raise it every year."
With further discussion, Commissioner Blake stated, "I don't have a problem with what
We have here and with authorizing the Manager and the Attorney to negotiate a contract.
We do this frequently on other items - ,as long as we understand what the main terms are
going to be." Mayor Bush' stated, "We will leave this as part ofthe Consent Agenda."
CONSENT
7. B. Parks And Recreation Department
Requesting The City Commission To Accept The Bid Of M.V. Transportation, Inc.
To Provide Senior Bus Services And Authorize The City Manager To Execute A
. Contract With The Approved Bidder For Senior Transportation Service.
Commissioner Edward Martinez, Jr. stated, "I just wanted to say thanks to all concerned,
the Fire Chief [Timothy J, Lallathin], Chuck Pula [Parks and Recreation Department
Director], the Senior Citizens Center Manager Susie [Coffinan]. Goodjob and 1 hope we
can expand on this in the future."
Commissioner David W. McLeod inquired; "Do we have an idea, Ron [Ronald W.
McLemore, City Manager] of what we think this trip may take?" Manager McLemore
stated, ''That is the reason we said we would bring you back a monthly report and then a
quarterly report so we can begin to see what the actual - level of service is." Manager
McLemore added, "We are just going to have to see how it goes and keep you updated on
what the ridership is like."
CONSENT
8. C. Public Works Department
Requesting Approval To Enter Into A Contract To Construct Landscape And
Hardscape Improvements For The Town Center On Hickory Grove Road And
Tuskawilla Road.
Discussion
CONSENT
9. D. Finance Department
Requesting City Commission Approve The FY 2004 Budget Calendar.
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CONSENT
10. E. Finance Department.
Requests The City Commission Approve An Interfund Loan From The General
Fund To The Central Winds Debt Service Fund In The Amount Of $225,330 To Pay
The FY 03 Debt Service On The Central Winds Limited Obligation Bond.
Discussion.
CONSENT
11. F. Office Of The City Attorney
Presents Resolution Number 2003-06 To The City Commission For Approval. The
Resolution Memorializes The Previous Discussion Of The City Commission To
Amend The City Commission's Rules And Procedures.
With discussion, Commissioner Blake stated "We have had issues in the past with getting
Agendas out on time" and spoke of his concerns with the language in 3. b A. Deputy
Mayor Robert S. Miller suggested, "I think we should take out 'Agenda Packets' and just
leave the' Agenda Item." Furthermore, Deputy Mayor Miller clarified that "I think we
should delete that 'Agenda Packets' - they should be available on Wednesday."
Mayor Bush then stated, "We will pull [Consent] Item 'F' off and it will go on to the
Regular Agenda."
Commissioner McLeod said, "I agree with Deputy Mayor Miller, 'Packets' probably
should be changed to a single Agenda Item, if it needs to get to us later."
Discussion then ensued on the proposed time limits, and Commissioner McLeod stated,
"I have a problem with that." Mayor Bush added that he was concerned with this issue
too.
Tape I/Side B
With further discussion, Commissioner Blake stated, "Pull the Item off - Consent, and put
it on the Regular [Agenda]." ,
CONSENT
12. G. Utility Department
Requesting Approval Of A Quit Claim Deed Conveying Property To The City.
CONSENT
13. H. Public WorkslUtility Department
Requesting Approval Of Change Order #1 For Triple Luminaries On The Mast
Arms At State Road 434 And Tuskawilla Road.
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CONSENT
14. I. Public Works Department
Requesting Authorization To Purchase One (1) Dump Truck By Piggybacking Off
. Of Pasco County Bid #02-029F.
CONSENT
15. J. Community Development Department
Presents A Request By Tuskawilla Office Park, LLC, To Allow A 5 Foot Wide
Sidewalk Abutting Buildings Lots 4 Through 11 (Interior Building Lots) At
Tuskawilla Office Park.
CONSENT
. , 16. K. Office Of The Mayor
Presentation Of Resolution 2003-05 Expressing Appreciation To Sally McGinnis
For Her Service On The Planning And Zoning Board/Local Planning Agency.
CONSENT
17. L. Office Of The City Clerk
Approval Of The January 13, 2003 City Commission Regular Meeting Minutes.
Mayor Bush stated, "We have now pulled off the Consent Agenda, Items' J' and 'F.'"
"MOTION TO APPROVE CONSENT AGENDA WITH THE EXCEPTION OF
ITEMS 'F' AND 'J.'" MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ.
SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER: AYE
, COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
INFORMATIONAL
INFORMATIONAL
18. A. Community Development Department
Advising The City Commission .of The Status Of Various Current Planning
Projects.
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INFORMATIONAL
19. B. Public Works Department
Updating The City Commission On The Status Of The Town Center Roads Project.
INFORMATIONAL
20. C. Community Development Department
Advising The City Commission Of A Code Violation Regarding The Setback For An
Existing B,arrier Fence In The Greenbriar Development.
With discussion on the Code violations, Commissioner Martinez stated, "If those fences
were there before this' Ordinance went into effect, those fences should be grandfathered
in. If they were not, then you take whatever action is necessary."
Manager McLemore said, "I think we need to put this on the next Agenda."
Commissioner Martinez suggested, "I would like you to consider the Covenants, the
Code, and the history of that subdivision." Manager McLemore added, "We will agenda
it for action next time."
INFORMATiONAL
21. D. Public Works Department
Informing The City Commission On The Potable Water Usage For 2002.
INFORMATIONAL
22. E. Informational Services Department
Update The Commission On Future Plans To Utilize Bank Drafts For Payment Of
Utility Bills.
INFORMATIONAL
23. F. Community Public Works Department
Requests The City Commission Consider Information About The Status Of The
Boat Dock Regulations.
"MOTION TO APPROVE THE INFORMATIONAL AGENDA." MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER BLAKE. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ.
DISCUSSION.
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VOTE:
DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
PUBLIC HEARINGS
24. A. Office Of The City Manager
Requests That The CityCommissio~ Consider For First Reading Ordinance
Number 2003-02, Which Repeals Ordinance Number 545. And Dissolves The
Tuscawilla County Club Village Streetlight Maintenance District ("District")
Pursuant To Section 189.4042, Florida Statutes. The Proposed Ordinance Also
Dissolves Resolution Number 720, And Discontinues The Levy, Collection, And
Enforcement Of Non-Ad Valorem Assessments By The District As Provided Under
Section 197.3632, Florida Statutes.
As stated earlier in this Meeting, this Agenda Item was pulled from this evening's
Agenda as it was requested that "This be delayed to a future Meeting."
.:..:. AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING TWO (2) CONSENT AGENDA
ITEMS WERE ADDED TO THE REGULAR AGENDA, IN THE ORDER AS
DISCUSSED AND AS DOCUMENTED. .:. .:.
REGULAR
FORMERLY LISTED ON THE CONSENT AGENDA
11. F. Office Of The City Attorney
Presents Resolution Number 2003-06 To The City Commission For Approval. The
Resolution Memorializes The, Previous Discussion Of The City Commission To
Amend The City Commission's Rules And Procedures.
Discussion ensued on the proposed time limits and reasons for delays in getting the
Agenda out. Deputy Mayor Miller stated, "We need to have the Agendas on
Wednesdays."
DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER SUGGESTED, "I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE
JUST DELETE THE TEN (10) MINUTES - SO THAT EVERYBODY GETS FIVE
(5) MINUTES IN ROTATION." MAYOR BUSH THEN STATED,
"COMMISSIONER MILLER, YOU ARE RECOMMENDING THAT IN ITEM -
3. G., THE LAST - THREE (3) LINES AFTER THE WORD 'ITEM' - IT NOW IS
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A COMMA, BECOMES A PERIOD AND THE REST OF THAT BE STRICKEN -
SO THAT 'PROVIDED NO COMMISSIONER OR THE MAYOR SHALL BE
GIVEN MORE THAN A TOTAL OF TEN (10) MINTES TO SPEAK ON AN
AGENDA ITEM UNLESS ADDITIONAL TIME IS APPROVED BY MAJORITY
VOTE OF THE CITY COMMISSION' - THAT WOULD BE STRICKEN."
DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER STATED, "CORRECT." MAYOR BUSH THEN
INQUIRED, "IS THAT A MOTION?" DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER STATED,
"YES IT is.'' MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER. SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER BLAKE. DISCUSSION.
COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ ADDED, "WE SHOULD HAVE THIS PACKAGE
BY WEDNESDAY, REGARDLESS OF WHAT ELSE IS PENDING, AND IF YOU
HAVE OTHER ITEMS THAT YOU FEEL ARE IMPORTANT, YOU SHOULD
PUT THEM ON AS AN ADDED AGENDA ITEM, AND BRING THEM TO THE
COMMISSION, AND WE WILL DECIDE BEFORE THE MEETING WHETHER
WE SHOULD TAKE THEM ON, OR NOT - WE COULD DISCARD THEM OR
ACCEPT THEM."
, COMMISSIONER BLAKE SPOKE ON HIS INTERPRETATION OF THE
MOTION AND STATED, "THE EFFECT OF STRIKING THESE THREE (3)
LINES TAKES AWAY THE TEN (10) MINUTES PER INDIVIDUAL TOTAL
LIMITATION; BUT WHAT IT DOES NOT DO IS IT DOES NOT TAKE AWAY
THE REQUIREMENT TO HAVE THE FLOOR FOR IN EXCESS OF FIVE (5)
MINUTE ALLOTS." FURTHER, COMMISSIONER BLAKE POINTED OUT, "I
DO NOT BELIEVE MR. MAYOR THAT STRIKING THESE THREE (3) LINES
LIMITS A COMMISSIONER, ANY GIVEN COMMISSIONER OR YOU THE
MAYOR, TO TWO (2) FIVE (5) MINUTE INCREMENTS, PERIOD, AND THAT
IS IT. I THINK ,WHAT IT SAYS IS YOU CAN'T HOLD THE FLOOR FOR ANY
LONGER THAN FIVE (5) MINUTES AT A TIME, IF SOMBODY ELSE WANTS
A CHANCE AT IT." COMMISSIONER SALLY McGINNIS ADDED, "THAT IS
HOW I READ IT."
WITH FURTHER DISCUSSION, MAYOR BUSH STATED, "YOU CAN'T HOLD
THE FLOOR LONGER THAN FIVE (5) MINUTES AND EVERYBODY GETS
THEIR FIVE (5) MINUTE CRACK BEFORE YOuqo INTO YOUR SECOND
FIVE (5) UNLESS NOBODY ELSE WISHES TO SPEAK." COMMISSIONER
McLEOD ADDED, "AS LONG AS THERE IS NOT A MAXIMUM TIME LIMIT."
MAYOR BUSH ADDED, "THE MAXIMUM HAS BEEN STRICKEN."
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VOTE:
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ: AYE
COMMISSIONER McLEOD: NAY
DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONERBLAKE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
With further discussion, Mayor Bush stated, "The Commission voted to approve the
correction on item G, - where the last three (3) lines were stricken. The other items have
not been voted on one way or another."
"I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE RESOLUTION
NUMBER 2003-06 INCORPORATING THE LANGUAGE OF THE
PREVIOUSLY A.PPROVEDMOTION, CHANGING THE AGENDA PACKET
LANGAUGE TO READ THAT THE AGENDA PACKETS ARE DUE
WEDNESDAY AT 5:00 P.M. AND ANY ADDITIONAL ITEMS THAT FALL
WITHIN THE EMERGENCY PROVISION THAT IS' IN THERE, WOULD BE
ALLOWED, AND IT INCORPORATES THE REST OF THE RESOLUTION AS
WRITTEN." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BLAKE. SECONDED BY
DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER. DISCUSSION.
MAYOR BUSH CLARiFIED, "AGENDA PACKETS SHOULD BE MADE
AVAILABLE TO COMMISSIONERS NO LATER THAN WEDNESDAY AT 5:00
P.M., PRIOR TO THE COMMISSION MEETING." COMMISSIONER BLAKE
ADDED, "HOWEVER, WHEN ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY OR' IN THE
EVENT OF AN EMERGENCY, THE CITY MANAGER MAY DISTRIBUTE
ADD-ON AGENDA ITEMS AFTER WEDNESDAY AT 5:00 P.M."
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER McLEOD: NAY
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNlS: AYE
DEPUTYMAYORMILLER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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FORMERLY LISTED ON THE CONSENT AGENDA
15. J. Community Development Department
Presents A Request By Tuskawilla Office Park, LLC, To Allow A 5 Foot Wide
Sidewalk Abutting Buildings Lots 4 Through 11 (Interior Building Lots) At
Tuskawilla Office Park.
Mr. John Baker, AICP, Current Planning Coordinator, Community Development
Department and Manager McLemore addressed the Commission's concerns.
Discussion.
"MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM 'J.'" MOTION BY COMMISSIONER
MARTINEZ. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: NAY
COMMISSIONER McLEOD: NAY
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
.:..:. AGENDA NOTE: THE REMAINDER OF THE REGULAR AGENDA
WAS DISCUSSED AS DOCUMENTED. .:. .:.
REGULAR
REGULAR
25. A. Community Development Department - Arborist
Presenting The Request Of Mr. Louis Patricelli To Remove 1 Specimen Bald
Cypress, Approximately 23 Inches In Diameter.
Mr. Michael Mingea, ArboristlEnvironmental Inspector, Community Development
Department spoke on this Agenda Item.
Mr. Louis Patricelli, 647 Silvercreek Drive, Winter Springs, Florida: explained to the
City Commission about his particular situation arid displayed some photographs of his
property. '
Discussion.
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Further discussion ensued,
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"I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE REGULAR ITEM 'A.'" MOTION
ny COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER
McLEOD. DISCUSSION.
Commissioner Blake stated, "Point of Order, " and spoke of the Motion on the floor.
COMMISSIONER McLEOD STATED, "I WITHDRAW MY SECOND."
"I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE ITEM' A' - REGULAR AGENDA -
JANUARY 27, 2003 WHICH STATES THAT WE SHOULD CONSIDER MR.
PATRICELLI'S REQUEST AND MOVE TillS SPECIMEN TWENTY-THREE
INCH (23") DIAMETER BALD CYPRESS TREE AT 647 SIL VERCREEK
[DRIVE] AS REQillRED BY SECTION 5":8. OF THE CITY'S CODE OF
ORDINANCES ,AND MY MOTION IS TO APPROVE IDS REQUEST."
MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ. SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER McLEOD. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: NAY
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: NAY
COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ: AYE
COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER: NAY
MOTION DID NOT CARRy.
REGULAR
26. B. Community Development Department
Requests That The Commission Approve The Final Subdivision Plat For Wagner's
Curve And Authorize Its Recordation, Subject To Conditions.
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Mr, Baker addressed the City Commission regarding this Agenda Item.
With discussion on access to the right-of-way, Commissioner Blake inquired, "Are there
full rights for PARCEL 2 in this easement, for their access?" Mr. Baker responded, "I
would have to get the applicant to respond to that." Attorney Garganese suggested, "You
may want to insert - since it is on PARCEL 1 - for the benefit of the owners of PARCEL
2, and perpetual use of the public; you want to tie it to that other parce1." Commissioner
Blake stated his agreement with what Attorney Garganese had said.
"I MAKE A MOTION WE APPROVE THE RECORDING OF THE PLAT,
SUBJECT TO THE ADDITIONAL LANGUAGE DISCUSSED BY THE
ATTORNEY." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BLAKE. SECONDED BY
DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER. DISCUSSION.
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VOTE:
DEPUTYMAYORMILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
REGULAR
27. C. Community Development Department
Requests That The City Commission, in Its Capacity As The DRC, Consider A
Request For The Building 15 Architectural Renderings/Building Elevations
Submitted By Wendy's (Restaurant Administrative Services).
Introductory comments were presented to the City Commission.
Discussion.
Mr. Ron Donley, 2699 Lee Road, Winter Park, Florida: as a representative of Restaurant
Administration Services, Mr. Donley addressed questions and concerns of the City
Commission in respect to the plans that were displayed.
Deputy Mayor Miller spoke for the record about his concerns with the lack of outdoor
eating areas. '
Commissioner McLeod inquired, "What are the height elevations?" Mr. Donley
responded, "You are looking at approximately twenty-four feet (24') at the highest point;
and I think twenty-three feet (23') - it was broken up so that it looks like two (2)
buildings." Commissioner McLeod further stated, "So the front elevation roughly is
twenty-four feet (24')?" Mr, Donley stated, "I believe that is correct." Further, Mr.
Donley added, "1 believe it is about twenty-two feet (22')." Commissioner McLeod then
inquired, "What is the width on this building?" Mr, Donley stated, "Forty-three feet
(43')."
Discussion.
"I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE ITEM 'C,'" A REQUEST FOR THE
BillLDING 15 ARCHITECTURAL RENDERINGSIBUILDING ELEVATIONS
SUBMITTED BY WENDY'S." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McLEOD. DISCUSSION.
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS STATED, "ONCE THE SIGN IS MOVED, IT
WON'T BE VISABLE ABOVE THE ELEVATION OF THE BUILDING. IS
THAT CORRECT?" MR. DONLEY STATED, "YES, THAT IS CORRECT."
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COMMISSIONER McLEOD THEN ASKED MR. DONLEY, "WHAT IS BEHIND
THE SHUTTER?" MR. DONLEY STATED, "IT IS A GLASS WINDOW."
COMMISSIONER McLEOD INQUIRED, "A TRUE GLASS WINDOW OR A
REFLECTION OF A GLASS WINDOW?" MR. DONLEY EXPLAINED,
"THOSE WILL BE. REFLECTIONS OF WINDOWS UP THERE. NOW, IF
STAFF, WHEN THEY REVIEW OUR PLANS, SAY THEY NEED REAL GLASS ,
WINDOWS, THEY WILL BE REAL GLASS WINDOWS, BUT RIGHT NOW,
WE WERE TOLD THAT THEY COULD BE REFLECTIVE WINDOWS."
COMMISSIONER McLEOD THEN ASKED, "AT WHAT DEGREE ARE THE
SHUTTERS OPENING AND CLOSING TO SHOW THESE REFLECTIVE
WINDOWS?" MR. DONLEY RESPONDED BY SAYING, "THEY ARE GOING
TO BE IDENTICAL TO THE SHUTTERS THAT ARE ON THE FRONT - SOME
OF THOSE YOU HAVE OUT THERE ARE PERMENANT - THESE ARE NOT.
THEY HAVE, REQUESTED THEM TO BE OPENED AND SHUT."
COMMISSIONER McLEOD ADDED, "I HAVE A LITTLE CONCERN ON
THOSE, DURING A HURRICANE." MR. DONLEY STATED, "THEY WOULD
BE SHUT AND SCREWED IN AT THE BOTTOM."
COMMISSIONER McLEOD THEN STATED THAT "I AM ALSO NOT REALLY
HAPPY WITH SEEING THE APPEARANCE OF - TilE GLASS THAT WE ARE
USING OUT THERE. IT IS NOT LOOKING LIKE GLASS; SO I THINK THAT
NEEDS TO BE STRONGLY LOOKED AT BY STAFF." MR. DONLEY
STATED, "WE WOULD USE BASICALLY ALUMINUM CLAD, BECAUSE
THAT IS THE ONLY TIDNG THAT WON'T ROT DOWN HERE IN
FLORIDA..." COMMISSIONER McLEOD ADDED, "...ALUMlNUM CLAD
WITIl A DOUBLE PANE..." MR. DONLEY THEN SAID, "AND THEY'D BE
BRONZE - BRONZE MOLDING TO MATCH THE LOWER BRONZE..."
COMMISSIONER McLEOD THEN POINTED OUT, "...BASICALL Y IT IS A
STOREFRONT GLASS MATCHING THE STOREFRONT, BUT IT IS IN A
METAL FRAME." MR DONLEY AGREED AND STATED, "THAT'S
CORRECT."
MAYOR BUSH THEN SAID TO MR. DONLEY, "WHAT YOU ARE SAYING IS
THAT YOU WOULD PUT THAT IN IF STAFF RECOMMENDED IT..." MR.
DONLEY RESPONDED, "YES..." MAYOR BUSH CONTINUED, "...OR IF THE
COMMISSION IS ASKING FOR IT, OR AT LEAST COMMISSIONER
McLEOD."
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"AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION - THAT WE RECOMMEND THAT A TRUE
GLASS PANE BE USED ON THE UPPER, BUT ALSO TAKE INTO
CONSIDERATION THE SWEATING OF THOSE WINDOWS AND THE
DESIGN OF THAT SO THAT WE END UP HAVING FOGGED WINDOWS UP
THERE WITH MOISTURE IN BEHIND THEM." AMENDMENT TO THE
MOTION BY COMMISSIONER McLEOD. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER
MARTINEZ. DISCUSSION.
COMMISSIONER BLAKE ASKED MANAGER McLEMORE, "DOES THIS
'BUILDING, AS IT IS CUImENTL Y DEPICTED, COMPLY WITH ALL OF THE
TOWN CENTER CODES? SPECIFICALLY THE TOP PICTURE, WHICH - IS
THE WEST EL~V ATION. IT LOOKS TO ME LIKE IT IS SHY - WINDOWS;
THERE AREN'T ENOUGH WINDOW AREAS TO COMPLY WITH THE
TOWN CENTER CODE." MR. BAKER STATED, "IT DOES COMPLY WITH
THE CODE." ,
MANAGER McLEMORE ASKED MR. DONLEY, "DO YOU HAVE A
PROBLEM WITH PUTTING A COUPLE OF WlNI)OWS ON THAT SIDE OF
THE BUILDING?" MR. DONLEY STATED, "NO, I COULD ADD PROBABLY
ANOTHER WINDOW OR TWO (2) ON THAT SIDE. . THEY ARE GOING TO
BE FALSE WINDOWS THOUGH, BECAUSE YOU CAN'T PUT THEM INTO
THE KITCHEN."
VOTE: (ON THE AMENDMENT)
COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: A.YE
DEPUTYMAYORMILLER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED~
"I WOULD LIKE TO AMEND THE MOTION TO HAVE THE WEST SIDE OF
BUILDING - ADD THREE (3) ADDITIONAL WINDOW-LIKE FEATURES IN
KEEPING WITH, THE EARLIER AGREEMENTS ON THE WEST SIDE OF
THE BUILDING." AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION BY COMMISSIONER
BLAKE. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ. DISCUSSION.
MANAGER McLEMORE SUGGESTED, "YOU MIGHT COME OUT WITH A
BETTER LOOKING BUILDING IF YOU DO SOMETIDNG UP HERE, THAN
JUST LINE THEM UP ACROSS HERE - FROM AN ARCHITECTURAL
PERSPECTIVE, SO MY QUESTION IS WOULD YOU GIVE THEM SOME
FLEXIBILITY TO WORK SOMETHING HERE AND HERE [MANAGER
McLEMORE POINTED TO THE UPPER FLOOR. SHOWN ON THE
RENDERING] TO BALANCE IT OFF?" COMMISSIONER BLAKE STATED,
"ABSOLUTELY."
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COMMISSIONER McLEOD ADDED, "I WAS GOING TO SUGGEST THAT WE
- ARCIDTECTURALLY ALLOW HIM TO DO TIDS - SO THAT IT MATCHES
ARCHITECTURALLY, BECAUSE THERE IS NO SQUARE FOOTAGE. WE
JUST SAID ADD THREE (3) WINDOWS. WHAT IS THAT SQUARE FOOTAGE
WISE? SO, IS IT A ONE SQUARE FOOT BY ONE SQUARE FOOT
WINDOW?" MR. DONLEY STATED, "WE WOULD NOT PUT..."
COMMISSIONER McLEOD ADDED, "...WE DID NOT GIVE A DIRECTION AS
TO A PERCENTAGE OF THAT WALL OR TO AN ARCHITECTURAL
ELEMENT OF THAT WALL IN THE MOTION." COMMISSIONER BLAKE
STATED, "THE COMMISSIONER'S LANGUAGE IS THE INTENT OF MY
MOTION."
COMMISSIONER BLAKE STATED, "THE MOTION WAS MEANT TO
SUGGEST THAT THE CITY MANAGER AND STAFF WILL HAVE THE
ABILITY TO WORK WITH THE DEVELOPER TO ADD ADDITIONAL
WINDOWS ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE BUILDING, TO CREATE A MORE
PLEASINGLY AESTHETIC WEST SIDE."
VOTE: (ON THE AMENDMENT)
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
DEPUTYMAYORMILLER: NAY
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE
COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
VOTE: (ON THE MOTION, AS AMENDED)
COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ: AYE
DEPUTYMAYORMILLER: NAY
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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28. D. Parks And Recreation Department
Requesting The City Commission To Consider Options For Additional Park
Screening At Moss Park That Is Not Budgeted And Would Require New
Appropriation.
Deputy Mayor Miller stated, "I would like to see a fence put in there - I think it is the
right thing to do."
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"I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE OPTION 1."
COMMISSIONER BLAKE.
MOTION BY
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SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ. DISCUSSSION ENSUED ON
BUDGETARY CONCERNS. COMISSIONER McLEOD ASKED MR. CHUCK
PULA,. PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT DIRECTOR, "AT THIS
PRICE OF TWELVE DOLLARS ($12.00) A LINEAR FOOT, DOES THAT
INCLUDE THE IRRIGATION THAT IS ON SITE, TO BE BROUGHT AROUND
- OF WHERE I UNDERSTAND THE WAX MYRTLES WOULD GO?"
FURTHERMORE, COMMISSIONER McLEOD STATED, "IF THE NUMBER
WE ARE LOOKING AT IS TRULY TWELVE DOLLARS ($12.00) A LINEAR
FOOT, IS THAT FOR THE BUSH, IRRIGATION, AND THE PLANTING OR IS
THAT FOR THE PLANTING OF THE BUSa WITH THE POSSmILITY THAT
THERE IS IRRIGATION THERE AND ARE WE GOING TO GET ANOTHER
COST - TO PUT IN IRRIGATION?" MANAGER McLEMORE ADDED, "I SAY
WE BRING IT BACK TO YOU WITH THAT INFORMATION."
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: NAY
COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ: NAY
COMMISSIONER McLEOD: NAY
DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER: NAY
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: NAY
MOTION DID NOT CARRY.
Commissioner McLeod said to Manager McLemore, "Bring this back to us when they
find out what the irrigation status is at the park."
REGULAR
29. E. Community Development Department
Requesting Commission Consider And Approve A Development Agreement For
The State Road 434 Retail Development (A.K.A.Villagio), Located On A 9.15-Acre
Tract Along The South Side Of State Road 434, Adjacent To And West Of Stone
Gable.
As stated earlier in this Meeting, this Agenda Item would not be discussed on this
Agenda.
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30. F. Community Development Department
Requests That The City Commission Consider A Proposed Policy For Interior
Partitions Within The Town Center Buildings. This Policy Is Intended To Maintain
The Actual Business Frontage Onto The Street, By Maintaining The View Into The
Primary Areas Of The Store, In A Manner That Encourages Pedestrian Traffic.
Mr. Baker introduced this Agenda Item.
Discussion.
"MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM 'F.'" MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BLAKE.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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31. G. Community Development Department
Recommends Denial Of A Request For A Variance By Neil And Michelle Staley
From Sections 6-2. And 20-103. Of The City Code Of Ordinances, To Encroach 10
Feet Into The 20 Foot Rear Building Setback To Construct A Screened Porch With
An Impervious Roof At The Rear Of The House.
The Agenda Item was presented by Mr. Baker.
"MOTION TO DENY." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ.
SECONDED BY-COMMISSIONER BLAKE. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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32. B-1. Office Of The City Manager
Requesting The City Commission To Reconsider A Decision Made On December 9,
2002 Related To, Regular Agenda Item "C" Amending The Benchmark Earnings
Rate For Employee Contributions In The 'City Pension Plan From The Thirty (30)
Year Treasury To The Twenty (20) Year Treasury.
As stated earlier in this Meeting, this Agenda Item was pulled from this evening's
Agenda as this Agenda Item "Will be discussed at our next Regular Meeting."
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, 33. B-2. Office Of The City Manager
Requesting The City Commission Receive Information Regarding The 30 Year
Benefit Period In The Proposed Pension Resolution.
Also as stated earlier in the Meeting, this Agenda Item was pulled from this evening's
Agenda as this Agenda Item "Will be discussed at our next Regular Meeting."
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34. B-3. Office Of The City Manager
Requesting The City Commission Receive Information Regarding The Cash-Out
Provisions Of The Recommended Pension Plan Resolution And Plan Document.
As stated earlier in this Meeting, this Agenda Item was also pulled from this evening's
Agenda as this Agenda Item "Will be discussed at our next Regular Meeting."
ADD-ON
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35. H-4. Office Of The City Manager
Requesting The City Commission To Receive An Updated Report On The Financial
Status Of The City's Pension Plan And To Provide Any Directive It Deems
Appropriate.
As stated earlier in this Meeting, this Agenda Item was pulled from this evening's
Agenda as this Agenda Item "Will be discussed at our next Regular Meeting."
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36. H-5~ Office Of The City Manager
Requesting The City Commission To Approve Section 4 Of The Proposed Rewrite
Of The City's Pension Plan Providing For The Purchase Of Employee Benefits By
City Employees.
Again, as stated earlier in the Meeting, this Agenda Item was pulled from this evening's
Agenda as this Agenda Item "Will be discussed at our next Regular Meeting."
.:..:. AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING REPORTS WERE DISCUSSED IN
THE ORDER AS DOCUMENTED. .:..:.
REPORTS
REPORTS
37. A. City Attorney - Anthony A. Garganese, Esquire
No Report.
REPORTS
38. B. City Manager - Ronald W. McLemore
No Report.
REPORTS
39. C. City Clerk - Andrea Lorenzo-Luaces
City Clerk Andrea Lorenzo-Luaces brought up that the City Commission had recently
agreed to have new photographs taken. With discussion, the Commission agreed to meet
at City Hall on Monday, February 3,2003 at 5:45 p.m. for a photo session. Mayor Bush
added, "You [Andrea Lorenzo-Luaces] will remind everybody a week ahead of time."
Secondly, City Clerk Lorenzo-Luaces mentioned that problems existed at two (2) City
precincts in the November 2002 Election, and asked if the City Commission desired to
have anything done. With discussion, Mayor Bush stated, "Why don't we ask the - Clerk
to check with the Supervisor of Elections, and see if she has made any plans to change
precincts in the future - do a little bit of inquiry, and let it go at that, and see what she
comes back with."
"
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REPORTS
40. D. Commission Seat Four -- Sally McGinnis
No Report.
REPORTS
41. E. Commission Seat Five - David W. McLeod
No Report.
REPORTS
42. F. Commission Seat OnelDeputy Mayor - Robert S. Miller
Deputy Mayor Miller asked Manager McLemore, "When are we going to hear back - on
that seventy-five cents issue with the Greenway? Have they been in touch with you on
that? Maybe you could get in touch with them and find out if they are working on it?"
Manager McLemore stated, "They have not gotten the letter yet - I have had it drafted for
a couple of weeks now, meaning to get with you because I want to go over the language
with you to make sure that I put in there exactly what it was you were trying to do."
Deputy Mayor Miller stated, "Call me tomorrow."
Next, Deputy Mayor Miller spoke of the Florida Power Company and stated, "We were
supposed to be getting something from them also." Manager McLemore responded that
"We have had - a letter from them saying they are working on the data and will be back
to us soon; they did not give a date." Deputy Mayor Miller then suggested, "Maybe you
could give them a call and ask them." Manager McLemore responded, "Be happy to."
Thirdly, Deputy Mayor Miller spoke of the MontWy Reports and stated, "Maybe you
could ask your Staff to use a different color, because a lot of the charts come out black."
Commissioner Blake offered, "When they print those, all they need to do is print it or set
up the printing for a black and white printer."
Next, Deputy Mayor Miller said, "I would like the City Manager to bring this back as an
Informational Item and then possibly get the Commission to agree to send in a Resolution
on this - there is ,a 'group out there - defending the Bill of Rights and Civil Liberties in
the United States," Deputy Mayor Miller continued, "I would like the City Manager to
review this and maybe bring it back after Counsel takes a look at it to make sure we are
not violating the Patriot Act." Deputy Mayor Miller added, "I would like us to send in
such a Resolution."
.:..:. AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING REPORT WAS GIVEN NEXT, AS
DOCUMENTED. .:. .:.
."
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REPORTS
REPORTS
41. E. Commission Seat Five - David W. McLeod
Commissioner McLeod asked Manager McLemore, "When do you plan to bring your pay
back to us for discussion?" Manager McLemore stated, "I was actually wanting to do
that - I wanted to get this Pension issue settled first. That is the only reason I've been
holding it back." Mayor Bush added, '''And the Pension issues will be on the next
Agenda - next Meeting."
.:. .:. AGENDA NOTE: THE REMAINDER ,OF REPORTS WERE THEN
DISCUSSED AS DOCUMENTED. .:. .:.
REPORTS
REPORTS
43. G. Commission Seat Two - Michael S. Blake
Commissioner Blake said he would check his notes regarding earlier discussion points he
recently had with Manager McLemore, '
Next, Commissioner Blake stated, "I had asked, probably six (6) months ago, a question
about requiring any provider of utilities to underground utilities as well as, not just local
utilities - currently I know in Tuscawilla, any utilities have to be underground, but the
replacement of transmission lines, in particular, or any upgrades of transmission lines -
have we done any work on whether or not we have the ability to require that, and if so,
how?" Attorney Garganese said, "Yes, we have done some research on it." Attorney
Garganese added, "I am going to have a Memo sent to the Commission, you will
probably get it- at the end of this week." Commissioner Blake added, "If there is some
way that we could minimize it ultimately, I think it would be wonderful to get it all
underground." ,
REPORTS
44. H. Commission Seat Three - Edward Martinez, Jr.
Commissioner Martinez asked Manager McLemore, "Anything new on the Fireman's
Contract?" Manager McLemore responded by saying, "We did meet last week, and had
some very firm proposals, counter proposals on the table; and we are - waiting to hear
back from the Union."
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45. I. Office Of The Mayor - John F. Bush
Mayor Bush stated, "I think it is imperative that we try to get our Agenda into the
[Orlando] Sentinel on time, so that it gets published." ,
Secondly, Mayor Bush said, "I have looked through the records - the last couple of years
and I have not found where the Commission has set any goals or objectives for itself, and
I think with getting ready to do the Budget - how can you set a Budget if you don't know
what you want to do? And I am asking the Commission if they might not want to
consider a special Workshop - where possibly we could bring in someone like Marilyn
Crotty who works with the League of Cities to work with the Commission to set some
goals for this coming year; so that when we do the Budget process, we can construct the
Budget in line with the goals." Mayor Bush added, "I would like the Commission to
think about that, and we will bring it up again."
Thirdly, Mayor Bush advised the Commission that in a recent Memorandum, I said that
"When we do the Budget for this coming year - especially on the one cent gas tax, that
you would direct the City Manager to come back with a proposal on deceleration lanes on
[State Road] 434 in priority of terms of the number of cars that would use them, and the
danger - of the traffic." Mayor Bush referenced Stone Gable, Winding Hollow, and
Tuscora Drive as possible locations.
ADJOURNMENT
Mayor Bush adjourned the Meeting at 9:30 p.m.
ORENZO-LUACES, CMC
LERK
NOTE: These Minutes were approved at the February 10, 2003 Regular City Commission Meeting,