HomeMy WebLinkAbout2006 11 27 Consent 406 Approval of Regular Meeting Minutes November 13, 2006
CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA
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CITY COMMISSION
REGULAR MEETING
NOVEMBER 13, 2006
CALL TO ORDER
The City Commission Regular Meeting of Monday, November 13, 2006 was called to
Order by Mayor John F. Bush at 6:30 p.m. in the Commission Chambers of the
Municipal Building (City Hall, 1126 East State Road 434, Winter Springs, Florida
32708).
Roll Call:
Mayor John F. Bush, present
Deputy Mayor Michael S. Blake, arrived at 6:32 p.m.
Commissioner Robert S. Miller, present
Commissioner Donald A. Gilmore, present
Commissioner Sally McGinnis, absent
Commissioner Joanne M. Krebs, present
City Manager Ronald W. McLemore, present
City Attorney Anthony A. Garganese, arrived at 6:32 p.m.
The Pledge Of Allegiance followed a Moment of Silence.
Under Agenda Changes, Mayor Bush mentioned as Commissioner [Sally] McGinnis was
not present this evening, Commissioner McGinnis has "Asked that we pull this [Regular
Agenda Item '300'] from the Agenda, to schedule it at another Meeting." Is that
acceptable?" Commissioner Joanne M. Krebs stated, "Fine with me." No objections
were noted. Mayor Bush then summarized, "The Dyson Drive then will be at our next
meeting. "
Deputy Mayor Michael S. Blake arrived at 6:32 p.m.
City Attorney Anthony A. Garganese arrived at 6:32 p.m.
PUBLIC INPUT
Mr. Bob Rucci, 973 Turkey Hol/ow Circle, Winter Springs, Florida: mentioned that the
ninety (90) day window for the permanent Dog Park is coming up and added that his
organization is planning another event in February called the "Hogs and Hounds Puppy
Love Run".
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Mr. David Mize, 1607 Little Sparrow Court, Winter Springs, Florida: congratulated the
winners in the recent Municipal Election, spoke of interest in change; City Commission
Meetings; Election mailers; and asked to be Appointed to one of the City's Advisory
Boards/Committees.
Ms. Maureen Simmons, 2231 Curryville Road, Chuluota, Florida: as the current
President of the Rotary Club of Winter Springs, Ms. Simmons spoke of the Group Study
Exchange and suggested that candidates (Planners and Police Officers) from the City of
Winter Springs be considered to study in Australia in support of this program and said
that a decision would need to be made by the end of the year.
Mr. Tom Brown, 717 Adidas Road, Winter Springs, Florida: read a Veterans prayer; and
mentioned a photograph of a dead deer behind the former meatpacking plant property,
and suggested that we and Seminole County check like the Planning and Zoning
Board[/Local Planning Agency] does, to take precautions to protect animals prior to any
activity on a property. Mr. Brown also congratulated the newly Elected Officials.
Due to technical difficulties, the next audiotape was used.
Tape 2/Side A
Ms. Isabelle Laub, 1372 Blue Spruce Court, Winter Springs, Florida: offered her
congratulations to the newly Elected Officials; spoke of Commissioner Robert S. Miller's
flyer; and asked about the status of the Senior Center renovations.
City Manager Ronald W. McLemore commented on the current process.
Ms. Brenda Brown, 211 Nandina Terrace, Winter Springs, Florida: spoke on
Commissioners sitting on Homeowner's Associations or other organizations of which
there might be a conflict of interest.
Mr. Edward Martinez, Jr., 207 Little Creek Lane, Winter Springs, Florida: congratulated
the newly Elected Officials; spoke of Agenda Item "202"; mentioned Agenda Item
"301"; and spoke about Homeowner's Associations.
A WARDS AND PRESENTATIONS
Fire Chief, Timothy J. Lallathin was presented with a gift check from the Mayor and City
Commission and his fellow employees.
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AWARDS AND PRESENTATIONS
100. Parks And Recreation Department
Presenting The Professional Grounds Management Society "Grand Award" For
Central Winds Park.
Mr. Alan Greene, Parks Superintendent, Parks and Recreation Department presented the
Mayor and City Commission with the "Grand A ward" from the "Professional Grounds
Management Society" for Central Winds Park.
PUBLIC HEARINGS AGENDA
PUBLIC HEARINGS
200. Community Development Department - Planning Division
Requests The City Commission Hold A Public Hearing For The Aesthetic Review
For Lake Jesup Shores, A 76-Unit Townhouse Project Located On 8.7 Acres In The
Town Center On The North Side Of State Road 434, At Wagner's Curve - A
Prominent Location And Gateway To The Town Center.
Mr. Randy Stevenson, ASLA, Director, Community Development Department
introduced this Agenda Item for discussion.
Commissioner Miller mentioned some concerns and suggested, "1 think it needs to be
sent back, and just rework the whole thing and come back with a completely new plan."
Commissioner Krebs said, "Commissioner Miller is right. 1 agree with Staff."
Mayor Bush introduced former Commissioner John Langellotti and former
Commissioner Edward Martinez, Jr. who were in attendance.
Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
No one spoke.
Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
Mr. Chuck Bell, Land Development Manager, Ryland Homes, 4700 Millenia Boulevard,
Suite 400, Orlando, Florida: addressed the City Commission on their proposal.
Manager McLemore commented on the Site Plan and said, "Step back. Maybe have
another Architect look at this and see if you can do some clean-up work and bring it back
for the Commission to look at again."
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Deputy Mayor Blake stated for the Record, "I did meet with him and Mr. Leerdam
several weeks ago, maybe a month ago." Continuing, Deputy Mayor Blake mentioned,
"The long - roofline really creates a problem for me."
Tape 2/Side B
Further discussion.
"I WOULD MAKE A MOTION THAT WE FIND THIS NOT IN COMPLIANCE
WITH - MANY OF OUR TOWN CENTER CODES AND ASK RYLAND HOMES
TO GO BACK AND WORK WITH STAFF AND IF YOU WISH TO BRING IT
BACK, BRING IT BACK." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MILLER. MAYOR
BUSH STATED, "SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER GILMORE."
DISCUSSION.
MANAGER McLEMORE STATED, "I WAS GOING TO SUGGEST THAT YOU
MIGHT WANT TO OFFER SOMETHING VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT THE
COMMISSIONER JUST OFFERED AND INSTEAD OF VOTING IT DOWN -
LEAVE IT OPEN FOR THEM TO DECIDE WHAT THEY WANT TO DO, AND
SEE IF THEY WANT TO DO SOMETHING ALONG THE LINES WE TALKED
ABOUT OR STEP BACK AND DO SOMETHING LIKE ENGLES DID WITH
THEIR DEVELOPMENT PROJECT AND GET AN OUTSIDE LOOK."
COMMISSIONER MILLER NOTED, "I THINK I ADDRESSED THAT IN THE
MOTION. IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT, I WOULD WELCOME IT."
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Attorney Garganese said, "If you are going to give them an opportunity to come back, do
you want to put a time period on that?"
MOTION "THEY BRING IT BACK - WITHIN NINETY (90) DAYS." MOTION
BY COMMISSIONER MILLER. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER KREBS.
DISCUSSION.
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VOTE:
DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
201. Community Development Department
Requests That The City Commission Hold A Public Hearing For The Aesthetic
Review Of The Addition Of A 2.55 Square Foot Washington Mutual Non-
Illuminated Sign On One Side (The East Side) Of The Existing Clock-Tower At The
Doran Site, Near The Intersection Of Cliff Rose Drive And State Road 434.
Mr. Stevenson spoke on this Agenda Item.
Discussion ensued on the related signage.
Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
No one spoke.
Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
"MOTION TO DENY." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MILLER. SECONDED
BY COMMISSIONER KREBS. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
DEPUTYMAYORBLAKE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
202. Community Development Department - Planning Division And Office Of
The City Attorney
Request That The City Commission Hold A Public Hearing For Third
Reading/Adoption Of Ordinance 2006-19, Which Amends The Zoning District Code
To Allow Public Recreational Areas And Facilities In The C-l And PUD (Planned
Unit Development) Zoning Districts As Permitted Uses.
Attorney Garganese read the Ordinance by "Title" only.
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Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
No one spoke.
Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
Discussion followed on the proposed language.
Mr. Don Fisher, Deputy County Manager, Seminole County, 1101 East First Street,
Sanford, Florida: commented on the Traffic Study and stated, "We're questioning
whether the Traffic Study might require a thorough review that we get access to the
traffic light, at least for people wanting to go left bound; and to get to the traffic light, you
go behind the Hess Station, and to get to the location, you would have to get onto the
local road before you get onto [State Road] 434. The local road is not an arterial road so
we didn't want to run into any possible issues trying to look to the future - so we
wouldn't have any issues when we got into Site Plan Review."
Further discussion.
Ms. Suzy Goldman, Director of Library and Leisure Services, Seminole County, 1101
East First Street, Sanford, Florida: addressed the City Commission on the proposed
plan.
Much discussion ensued on the wording related to access and acreage.
Attorney Garganese suggested, "Located at the southwest intersection of State Road 417
and State Road 434 and adjacent to state owned recreational lands and contains a
minimum of twenty (20) acres."
"MOTION TO APPROVE." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MILLER.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER KREBS. DISCUSSION.
ATTORNEY GARGANESE STATED, "I AM STRIKING THE LANGUAGE 'IN
CLOSE PROXIMITY TO LIMITED ACCESS HIGHWAY AND ACCESS FROM
ALL ARTERIAL ROAD' - THAT'S ALL BEING STRICKEN."
ATTORNEY GARGANESE THEN READ THE WORDING ONCE MORE AND
STATED, "PROVIDED SAID AREAS AND FACILITIES ARE LOCATED AT
THE SOUTHWEST INTERSECTION OF STATE ROAD 417 AND STATE ROAD
434 AND ADJACENT TO STATE.OWNED RECREATIONAL LANDS AND
CONTAINS A MINIMUM OF TWENTY (20) ACRES OF LAND."
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VOTE:
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
DEPUTYMAYORBLAKE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
203. Community Development Department - Planning Division
In Cooperation With The City Attorney And City Engineer Request That The City
Commission Hold A Public Hearing For First Reading Of Ordinance 2006-20,
Establishing A Methodology For Assessing Proportionate Fair-Share Mitigation For
Transportation Concurrency Management, Pursuant To The Requirements Of
Section 163.3180 (16), Florida Statutes.
Mayor Bush stated, "Motion to read by 'Title' only?"
"SO MOVED." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MILLER. SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER KREBS. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Attorney Garganese read the Ordinance by "Title" only.
Discussion followed with Mr. Brian Fields, P.E., City Engineer, Public Works
Department.
Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
No one spoke.
Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
"MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM '203' - MOVE TO SECOND READING."
MOTION BY COMMISSIONER KREBS. SECONDED. DISCUSSION.
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VOTE:
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
REGULAR AGENDA
REGULAR
300. Public Works Department
Requesting The City Commission To Consider A Second Straw Ballot For The
Proposed Dyson Drive Traffic Calming Project.
As noted earlier in the Meeting, this Agenda Item was postponed to the next City
Commission Meeting.
Tape 3/Side A
REGULAR
301. Office Of The Mayor
Requesting That The City Commission Review The "Public Input" Data In This
Agenda Item And The Attached Related Spreadsheet And Decide Whether They
Want To Implement Any New Or Revised "Policy" Related To "Public Input".
Discussion.
Commissioner Miller stated, "I concur." Furthermore, Commissioner Miller added, "We
don't need to do anything with this, just leave everything the way it is."
No further comments were made.
Mayor Bush called a Recess at 8: 18 p. m.
The Meeting was called back to Order by Mayor Bush.
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302. Office Of The City Clerk
Requesting The City Commission Decide Upon The Time When The 2006
Inauguration Ceremonies Should Be Held. Additionally, The City Commission Is
Also Being Asked To Consider And Approve The Information In This Agenda Item
Regarding Some Of The Details Planned For The Upcoming Inauguration
Ceremonies.
Discussion.
"I MAKE A MOTION FOR SEVEN P.M. ON THE 4TH [OF DECEMBER]."
MOTION BY COMMISSIONER GILMORE. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER
KREBS. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Regarding the recommendation that the Commission agree to continuing with what has
been done before in terms of cost and style, Mayor Bush remarked, "I think Andrea
[Lorenzo-Luaces, City Clerk] has always done a great job with these kind of things and 1
leave it up to you Andrea [Lorenzo-Luaces]."
"MOTION TO CAP IT AT THREE - THOUSAND [DOLLARS] ($3,000.00)."
MOTION BY COMMISSIONER KREBS.
MOTION DIED FOR LACK OF A SECOND.
"MOVE THIRTY-FIVE HUNDRED [DOLLARS] ($3,500.00) CAP." MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER GILMORE. SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE.
DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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303. Community Development Department - City Arborist
Recommends The City Commission Consider The Request Of Pete Smith Of 1004
Troon Trace To Remove One (1) Specimen Tree Located On The Resident's Private
Lot.
Mr. Mike Mingea, Arborist, Community Development Departments presenting this
Agenda Item explained, "Basically what we tried to suggest is simply remove the tree,
remove some of the stump material. They are going to come back in and grade that lot
there and to re-sod. They have also agreed to - do replacement tree replantings with the
Homeowner's Association, not onto this ground - not here on this site to create yet
another future problem, but to place them out into the common area there with the
Homeowner's Association."
Further discussion.
"MOTION TO DENY." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MILLER.
MOTION DIED FOR LACK OF A SECOND.
"MOTION TO APPROVE." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER GILMORE.
MOTION DIED FOR LACK OF A SECOND.
Discussion ensued on the roots affecting the drainage and whether the roots could be
pruned.
Regarding the re-plantings, Deputy Mayor Blake inquired, "Would those replantings take
place on the property or elsewhere?" Mr. Mingea responded, "That would not be as 1
mentioned earlier, there is not much in the way of space." Mr. Mingea added, "Those are
to go on a common ground. They are for the Homeowner's Association. 1 discussed this
with them. They presented it to their Homeowner's Association Board. They seemed to
be willing to comply."
Discussion.
Commissioner Krebs said to Mr. Mingea, "I was wondering when you mentioned the tree
replacement, that would be required. Are we monitoring that? Do we have time to
monitor that? How will we make sure that that would take place?"
Mr. Mingea remarked, "You're required within thirty (30) days of the issue of the permit
to have your replacement tree replantings. They've indicated voluntarily that they will do
such. We can go see that that's occurring." Mr. Mingea added, "This is done in a good
faith effort, particularly with the Homeowner's Associations."
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Deputy Mayor Blake said, "Since the trees are going to be replanted elsewhere, can't we
require that the tree re-plantings are done prior to the issuance of the permit to take the
tree down?" Mr. Mingea said, "1 would beg for that. 1 asked for that years ago when we
did our Arbor Ordinance and 1 certainly would appreciate that vote of confidence."
Further discussion.
"I WOULD BE WILLING TO MAKE A MOTION TO PERMIT THE REMOVAL
OF THE SPECIMEN TREE WITH THE PERMIT BEING ISSUED - ONCE THE
CITY ARBORIST HAS VERIFIED THAT THE REQUIRED REPLANTINGS OF
THE FIVE (5) UNITS HAVE INDEED TAKEN PLACE - IN ADVANCE OF THE
REMOVAL PERMIT, THE REPLANTINGS HA VE TO BE IN PLACE;
PLANTED, WATERED, THE WHOLE DEAL." MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR
BLAKE. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER GILMORE. DISCUSSION.
COMMISSIONER GILMORE THEN ASKED, "WHERE WERE THESE TREES
GOING TO BE PLANTED?" MR. MINGEA NOTED, "THEY WOULD NOT BE
ON TO THIS SITE. WHAT THE HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION HAS
CURRENTLY VOLUNTEERED IS THEY HAVE A SPACE ALONG THEIR
COMMON ENTRANCE THERE, I BELIEVE ON OLD WHITE WAY AS IT
COMES IN, THERE IS A SMALL POND AREA THERE, ACROSS FROM
BYRON GILTZ'; AND I BELIEVE THAT THAT'S ONE OF THE LOCATIONS
AND THE OTHER WAS AT ONE OF THE HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION'S
PERSONAL LOTS. THEY HAVE SPACE FOR IT THAT THEY WISH TO
HAVE SUCH AND MAINTAIN IT THEMSELVES."
COMMISSIONER GILMORE ADDED, "THAT WOULD BE ACCEPTABLE
THEN, THAT THE TREES WOULD BE OFF THIS SITE?" MR. MINGE A
STATED, "YES. THAT'S RIGHT."
VOTE:
DEPUTYMAYORBLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: NAY
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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304. Community Development Department - Public Works Department
Requests The City Commission Approve A Site Development Permit Agreement
With Tousa Homes, Inc. For Site Clearing At Sonesta Pointe.
Mr. Stevenson addressed the City Commission on this Agenda Item.
MAYOR BUSH STATED, "MOTION FOR APPROVAL BY COMMISSIONER
GILMORE." SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MILLER. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
DEPUTYMAYORBLAKE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
CONSENT AGENDA
CONSENT
400. Information Services Department
Requests Authorization To Proceed With Installation Of The New Public Works
Facility Telephone System With Orlando Business Telephone System As The
Vendor In The Amount Of $13,962.00.
This Agenda Item was not discussed.
CONSENT
401. Information Services Department
Requests Authorization For Orlando Business Telephone Systems To Proceed With
Installation Of Cabling At The New Public Works Facility In The Amount Of
$18,013.00.
No discussion.
CONSENT
402. Utility Department
Requesting Authorization To Continue To Use The Services Of Shelley's
Environmental Systems For Domestic Wastewater Residuals Hauling.
There was no discussion on this Agenda Item.
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CONSENT
403. Parks And Recreation Department
Requesting The City Commission To Authorize The City Manager To Execute The
Agreement Between The City Of Winter Springs And The Scottish American
Society Of Central Florida, Inc.
This Agenda Item was not discussed.
CONSENT
404. Parks And Recreation Department
Requesting Authorization For An Adjustment In Design Fees For
ArchitecturaI/Engineering Design Services With Starmer Ranaldi Planning And
Architecture, Inc., For Enclosing The Expansion Of The Senior Center And
Therapy Pool At A Cost Of $70,000.00 (Increase Of $16,000.00).
No discussion.
CONSENT
405. Information Services Department
Requests Authorization To Renew The Annual Telephone System Maintenance
Agreement With Orlando Business Telephone Systems (OBTS) In The Amount Of
$14,792.00 And Authorize Quarterly Payments In The Amount Of $3,698.00.
There was no discussion on this Agenda Item.
CONSENT
406. Information Services Department
Requests Authorization To Dispose Of Surplus Assets According To The Attached
Disposition Sheets.
Brief discussion.
CONSENT
407. Information Services Department
Requests Authorization To Pay Invoice For Annual Fiber Optic Communication
Network Interlocal Agreement In The Amount Of $17,272.64.
This Agenda Item was not discussed.
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CONSENT
408. Fire Department
Requesting Authorization To Enter Into A Contract For The Replacement Of All
Bay Doors With Hurricane Wind Proof Doors 75% Funded By The Hazard
Mitigation Grant Program.
No discussion.
CONSENT
409. Public Works Department
Requesting Authorization To Piggyback Off Of The Seminole County Contract
With Orlando Paving Company For The Resurfacing Of Phase I Of Winter Springs
Boulevard.
There was no discussion on this Agenda Item.
CONSENT
410. Information Services Department
Requests City Commission Authorize An Additional Appropriation In The Amount
Of $710.00 In Order To Secure The Commission Chambers Wi-Fi Hotspot.
This Agenda Item was not discussed.
CONSENT
411. Office Of The City Clerk
Requesting Approval Of The October 23, 2006 Regular City Commission Meeting
Minutes.
No discussion.
CONSENT
412. Office Of The City Clerk
Requesting Approval Of The November 1, 2006 Special City Commission Meeting
Minutes.
There was no discussion on this Agenda Item.
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"MOTION FOR APPROVAL" (CONSENT AGENDA). MOTION BY DEPUTY
MAYOR BLAKE. MAYOR BUSH STATED, "SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER GILMORE." DISCUSSION.
CITY CLERK LORENZO-LUACES, ASKED, "IF I COULD JUST ASK, DOES
THAT INCLUDE THE COMMENTS FROM THE I.S. (INFORMATION
SERVICES) [DEPARTMENT] DIRECTOR IN HER MEMO TO YOU ALL, ON
ITEM '406'?"
COMMISSIONER KREBS SAID, "YES, FOR ME." DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE
SAID, "YES." NO OBJECTIONS WERE NOTED.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
INFORMATIONAL AGENDA
INFORMATIONAL
500. Community Development Department
Advising The City Commission Of The Status Of Various Current Planning
Projects.
There was no discussion on this Agenda Item.
INFORMATIONAL
501. Community Development Department - Planning Division And Office Of
The City Attorney
Wish To Advise The City Commission On The Status Of The Large Scale
Comprehensive Plan Transmittal To DCA (Department Of Community Affairs).
This Agenda Item was not discussed.
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INFORMATIONAL
502. Office Of The City Clerk
Wishes To Inform The City Commission Of The Results Of The November 7, 2006
City Of Winter Springs Municipal Election.
No discussion.
"MOTION TO APPROVE" (INFORMATIONAL AGENDA). MOTION BY
COMMTSSTONRR MTT,J ,RR. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER GILMORE.
DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
REPORTS
REPORTS
600. Office Of The City Attorney - Anthony A. Garganese, Esquire
Attorney Garganese said, "Just a few things I just need to update the Commission about -
In the Comprehensive Plan challenge, Highlands Homeowner's Association v. City of
Winter Springs, that Case has been set for Expedited Hearing on November 29th, [2006]
and November 30th, [2006]. The Hearing will be here, at City Commission Chambers."
Next, Attorney Garganese remarked, "And regarding the Hayes Road right turn lane, we,
after receiving an - Appraisal for the property, we sent a written formal offer to the
Property Owner. We did not receive any response from the Property Owner for a
voluntary conveyance of the land necessary for the right turn lane. So we're proceeding
forward with the filing of a petition exercising eminent domain authority to acquire that
property. "
Continuing, Attorney Garganese advised the City Commission that "In the Case, Binford
v. the City of Winter Springs, the City's Motion for Summary Judgment is scheduled for
December 7th, [2006]. That comes on the heels of the City prevailing on the directed
Verdict for Selective Enforcement; so that will be coming up in less than a month.
"In the Case of Roy v. the City of Winter Springs et aI, we did receive late last week a
new settlement proposal from the Roy's. We're evaluating that with Staff and we'll get
back to you to the extent we need to."
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Lastly, Attorney Garganese remarked that "The Cell Tower Communication Ordinance is
scheduled for Planning and Zoning Board review on December 6th, [2006]. And that will
come back to the Commission for First Reading, maybe in December. If not, maybe in
January of [20]'07."
Commissioner Donald A. Gilmore said to Attorney Garganese, "We put in a temporary
Ordinance for compatibility and I believe that was expiring in six (6) months which is
about up?" Attorney Garganese remarked, "I am going to check that date and I can get
back to you on that."
REPORTS
601. Office Of The City Manager - Ronald W. McLemore
Manager McLemore said, "Two (2) things. First, 1 just need to get your Consensus or
approval on something. I've been invited to do a contribution to a book, it's an
academic book. This would be the third contribution I've made to the literature in
book form. The reason 1 was interested in it, and 1 haven't done much in the last four
(4) or five (5) years because the City's kept me so busy - but the reason 1 was interested
in this one was because they've asked, they wanted an article on a new urbanism
project, case study. And so 1 said, 'Okay', subject to you being comfortable with that
And again, it's purely an academic; it's not anything else other than that. So, 1 just
generally want to make you aware of that and see if you're okay with it"
Deputy Mayor Blake inquired, "What type of financial arrangement are you
anticipating with this endeavor?" Manager McLemore said, "For me?" Deputy
Mayor Blake said, "Yes." Manager McLemore replied, "Zero." Deputy Mayor Blake
said, "I think it's probably appropriate - in the interest of the City and yourself, that
that be memorialized..." Manager McLemore said, "...No problem." Deputy Mayor
Blake said, ''And I'm just trying to keep everything clean and clear. And especially - if
you're going to be spending some time on it - but 1 just don't want there, especially in
this community, to be any additional questions, that we would then have to find Elected
folks answering for, 'Why didn't you police things up a little better'." Manager
McLemore said, "I'll give you a letter from the Professor saying that it's truly
academic with no funds involved." Deputy Mayor Blake said, "That would suit me
fine, 1 don't know what everybody else feels." No objections were noted.
Manager McLemore said, "The other item is - I want to hand you out a copy of the
revised proposed Agreement with JOC (James Doran Company) that we really just
completed today." Discussion.
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Tape 3/Side B
Further discussion ensued on the Town Center and the Special Meeting scheduled for
tomorrow. Deputy Mayor Blake said, "Sometime before tomorrow, early afternoon,
could I have a list from you and your Staff of all of the outstanding issues? Because I
will tell you that sitting here, just moments ago, was the first time I heard about the wall
next to the McDonald's." Deputy Mayor Blake added, "I think we need to figure out
what are all the issues, discuss what all of the issues are, and then let's move forward."
Commissioner Krebs said, "I had the same - when I saw the Agenda and it said 'Parking
and other issues' - and I had also wanted to know what those issues were. But if you say
they're all in here, then I will review this tonight and tomorrow - everything that is going
to come up is - addressed here."
Deputy Mayor Blake said, "Well, as soon as you get that document, will you email it to
each of us?" Manager McLemore said, "Be happy to. And they may email it directly to
you, but as soon as I can get, I'll send it right to you."
Commissioner Krebs said, "And I am glad you brought up that point about the balconies.
And I am sure there were discussions about that. 1 don't, 1 wasn't up here, so I don't
recall them and I was wondering if there was some type of documents out there that I
could review so that 1 could understand the complete spirit of what was intended, why it
was intended, what balconies we are supposed to do, for instance? And when 1 spoke
with Shane [Doran] or George [Tullos], they indicated that that was for shade and if those
discussions took place, 1 would like to understand the context of which that took place.
And if there is such a document; I would like to know that."
Manager McLemore said, "It's laid out in the Code and somewhere we had a rendering
from our Consultant, Victor Dover, on that because that question had come up a lot. And
he's just very adamant about that as a standard for buildings to provide both shade, relief
from rain. And for example, when have a colonnade, you don't have to do it..."
Commissioner Krebs commented, ".. . Well, that is what 1 am wondering. If you have a
colonnade, do you have to have a balcony? Can you have a balcony above it, above the
colonnade?" Manager McLemore responded, "I suppose you could." Commissioner
Krebs said, "And if you do - this is all what I'm trying to find out, can the balcony be less
than six feet (6') on the second floor if you have the colonnade that meets that
requirement?" Manager McLemore then explained, "I don't think there's any
requirement a balcony at all when you have a colonnade." Commissioner Krebs noted, "I
understand that, but what happens if you want to put one in?" Manager McLemore said,
"Sure, there wouldn't be a need, 1 think, to require the six feet (6')."
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Manager McLemore continued, "The intent is to have some uniformity when you look
down the street and you have some relief for people when they're going into a building,
that they're not going to have the rain beating down on them. That there's a place there
that they can stop, you know, for a minute, and take off your coat and whatever you do
before you move into a building; just to give you some relief from some temperature and
rain; and to provide some uniformity of the look."
Commissioner Krebs said, "Well, since you feel that's going to come up tomorrow, then I
would appreciate any information that I could read up on to help me make the best
decision that I can make." Manager McLemore asked, "Are you available tomorrow?"
Commissioner Krebs replied by saying, "We can talk afterwards."
Brief discussion.
Manager McLemore said, "One other thing - that I need to point out to you, which you'll
see in the cover letter. And the other big issue for us was that we had in the Final
Engineering plans, sixty-two (62) parking spaces put aside. Those were results from
negotiations that we had, even though yes, they didn't have our name on them at that
point in time, and the fact that now, those spaces were to go away and to be used for the
other tenant that we talked about. That was a big, big issue for us. Now, he tells me he
has a solution for that."
Manager McLemore further explained, "There were sixty-two (62) spaces over and
beyond, their requirements for general parking - in the north garage. You have Final
Engineering approval of that, of sixty-two (62) units that were set aside, that was a
product of negotiations with us. That got into the Final Engineering, which you
approved, and then the idea they want to take those away and use them for some other
use was a real problem for us." Commissioner Krebs asked, "They wanted to take them
away?" Manager McLemore remarked, "Yes, they wanted to use those spots now for
their new tenants that we talked about.
So, to me, one (1) of the things we have to solve tomorrow night is a way by which we
get those units back to us instead of use for some other tenant. And the other issue was
the double counting of the spaces on Tuskawilla [Road], which had already been counted
in Phase I, years ago. So anyhow, he tells me he has a solution for all that and I hope he
does."
Further discussion.
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REPORTS
602. Office Of The City Clerk - Andrea Lorenzo-Luaces, CMC
City Clerk Lorenzo-Luaces reminded the City Commission about the Special Meeting
scheduled for 6:30 p.m., November 14, 2006; and the Pension Workshop scheduled for
7:30 p.m. on Thursday, November 16, 2006. City Clerk Lorenzo-Luaces also reminded
the City Commission that the Board of Trustees will be having their Regular Meeting on
November 16,2006 at 6:30 p.m.
REPORTS
603. Commission Seat One - Robert S. Miller
Commissioner Miller stated, tt] would like to get the Commission's Consensus to go
forward to the - Authority - and raise the issue again about the seventy-five cents
($.75) from Winter Springs to Oviedo - the Turnpike Authority. "
With further comments, Mayor Bush remarked, tt] think everybody agrees with you on
this. You have Consensus. Commissioner Miller said to Mayor Bush, ttWe need a
solution. " We're counting on you to do it. ] will raise it again the next couple of
weeks. "
Deputy Mayor Blake said, ttyou know, you could tell Mayor Walters (City of Oviedo)
that you have the support of the Board and see if two (2) cities want to - sue the
Turnpike Authority to force them to do what we all know, and they have shown that
they can do." Mayor Bush said, tt] would be glad to talk to him about it."
REPORTS
604. Commission Seat Two/Deputy Mayor - Michael S. Blake
Deputy Mayor Blake said, ttThe only thing] wanted to talk about tonight was also
related to the 417, Turnpike Authority and that is as many people know, or may know,
they are in the progress of going through the public information meetings to expand it
out to six (6) lanes. Three (3) lanes north, three (3) lanes south. Which would be of
course a fifty percent (50%) increase." Deputy Mayor Blake added, t~nd one of the
really important problems with that is that means there will be even more traffic, more
noise, and more impact on the neighborhood's, the residential areas that are adjacent
to the roadway. And] think that the City should take the lead on lobbying the Turnpike
Authority to make sure that thefunds are indeed expended to build a sound wall on the
Winter Springs side. And if we want to work with the City of Oviedo because they are
similarly impacted, ] think it makes sense there as well. "
Discussion.
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Deputy Mayor Blake continued, ttSo I would like to have the Board's support on that."
Mayor Bush stated, nI think everybody would support that. " No objections were noted.
REPORTS
605. Commission Seat Three - Donald A. Gilmore
Commissioner Gilmore asked about the paving of the Winter Springs Boulevard and the
status of it.
Discussion followed with Mr. Kip Lockcuff, P.E., Director, Public WorksfUtility
Department.
Mayor Bush said to Mr. Lockcuff, "While you are there, I am sure Commissioner
Gilmore's also going to ask you about [State Road] 434, on the west side."
Mr. Lockcuff said, "Should have a DOT (Department of Transportation) permit any day
is what we're thinking - so it's in permitting and it has been for six (6) weeks."
Further discussion.
REPORTS
606. Commission Seat Four - Sally McGinnis
Absent.
REPORTS
607. Commission Seat Five - Joanne M. Krebs
Commissioner Krebs said, tt...These tCelebrate Excellence' {medallions/from the Park
that we received. I thought would really be nice placed - in a frame of some sort with a
picture of the park and this mounted in with it. And so I thought that would be a good
ideafor us. Just wondering how the Commission wouldfeel about that?" Mayor Bush
asked, ttCommissioners, are you in agreement with Commissioner Krebs'
recommendation? Is to put together - a plaque, picture of the park with maybe one (1)
of these medallions embedded in it to be displayed, maybe in the lobby?" No objections
were noted.
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Next, Commissioner Krebs remarked, "Then also I wanted to bring - forward some
information and I would like us to look in the future, and I will probably be bringing
some more information back. And I got to thinking, especially when I am driving
down Tuskawilla Road in the evening, and I see the water, the recyclable water,
watering all of the wonderful vegetation on Tuskawilla {Road] - but what I was really
thinking, the planting's really, really, really nice, but what I would like to see is Winter
Springs be a leader and utilizing xeriscape type techniques. And one of the things that
I was thinking would be really nice is if we had something in our parks, some area in
our park that was actually a demo where this type of gardening would take place. If
you've ever seen it before - some people think it's rocks and cactus, but it's not. It
could look very, very tropical.
I would like to see something, like us lead in that and then take it even a step further as
to educate, have maybe classes once a month where we offer some type of educational
services to the citizens so that they too can utilize that technique. It's going to save
water in the future. Also, we'll be able to redirect some of the recyclable water to the
citizens returning yet another service. And at the same time, leading in Florida where
we need to go in the first place. So I would really like us to..."
Mayor Bush asked, ... "Commissioner Krebs, do you think that might be something
that we could ask the BOWS (Beautification of Winter Springs) Board to address?"
Commissioner Krebs said, "If we could do that, that would be wonderful." Mayor
Bush said, "I think that would be a good use of the Board's time." Commissioner
Krebs said, "That would be really a good project something - but I mean really, in the
end come up with something that we all benefit by but have some place where we can
visit. It could even be a passive park area, but it's all, it's an example of what someone
could do in their yard; but also then hold classes to teach people how to do that. "
Ms. Ethel Beecher, 1207 Winter Springs Boulevard, Winter Springs, Florida: as a
Member of the Beautification of Winter Springs Board, Ms. Beecher spoke regarding the
Board's plans for Arbor Day to inform citizens of native plants and other information
relating to education on different topics.
With further comments, Mayor Bush asked Ms. Beecher, "Could you take that back to
the BOWS (Beautification of Winter Springs Board), what Commissioner Krebs has
brought up tonight and kind of get a feel for how your Committee - what they would
think about it and maybe come back and let us know?" Ms. Beecher said, "Sure."
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Manager McLemore said, "I'd really like to agenda this item for after the first of the
year for a full discussion. It's a pretty big issue and we need to know the upsides and
the downsides of that. It's not the native plants that bother me so much, but the strict
application of xeriscape, I don't think you're going to be happy with on your right-of-
ways. We need to have a good discussion of that. " Mayor Bush stated, HCommissioner
Krebs, you okay with that?" Commissioner Krebs replied, "Right. I am fine with it."
Mayor Bush asked, "The rest of the Commission as well?" No objections were noted.
REPORTS
608. Office Of The Mayor - John F. Bush
Mayor Bush said, "I wanted to bring your attention on December the 11 t\ [2006] at the
Seminole County - Commission Chambers, the Legislative Action date. You might be
thinking about what we need, if you want to present anything at that time. Maybe you'll
let Mr. McLemore know. I will be going to it."
Deputy Mayor Blake said, "That would be an ideal time to get with the City of Oviedo
and bring up the funding for the sound wall." Mayor Bush said, "Good point."
Mayor Bush said, "If you would let me know of any issues that you would like covered
or Mr. McLemore, then he and I will get together and try to get something so you can see
if before that date."
Continuing, Mayor Bush remarked, "Our [Winter Springs] Open Space [Advisory Study]
Committee, you know, we should be getting ready to have about the first meeting. I
would like to ask the Commission if we could appoint an Ex-Officio member, Michael
Barr, from the Seminole Soil and Conservation District. He is very interested in -
working with our [Winter Springs] Open Space [Advisory Study] Committee. Would
you have any objection to having him as an Ex-Officio member?"
Deputy Mayor Blake commented, "I would not be in favor of that. I think we have
convened a Board of our citizens that have like interests. I think we have Staff that's
going to provide the professional expertise that will be required. And the Commission's
given them a directive and I think when you start having outside people, such as Mr.
Barr, maybe who have a broader interest in what we're trying to do just here in Winter
Springs, that it could tend to lead in perhaps a different direction then what we're looking
for."
With further discussion, Mayor Bush asked, "Commissioners, do you agree with
Commissioner Blake and I won't bother talking to this guy about?" Commissioner
Miller said, "I do. I agree with Commissioner Blake."
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Tape 4/Side A
Mayor Bush then asked about the Binford Case.
Attorney Garganese stated, "That Emergency Ordinance that we have in place for
aesthetic review of residential structures expires before your next regularly scheduled
Commission Meeting. It will expire on November 22nd, [2006]. I put before you a draft
Emergency Ordinance - it would extend the sunset provision an additional six (6)
months. You can consider this Emergency Ordinance tonight or perhaps we can agenda
the Ordinance maybe during your Special Meeting?
"I WOULD LIKE A MOTION THAT WE DIRECT THE CITY ATTORNEY TO
READ ORDINANCE 2006-22." MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER GILMORE. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Attorney Garganese read Emergency Ordinance 2006-22 in its entirety.
Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
No one spoke.
Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
"I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT THE CITY OF WINTER
SPRINGS CITY COMMISSIONERS FIND THAT THERE IS AN EMERGENCY
SITUATION AND ADOPTS ORDINANCE 2006-22." MOTION BY DEPUTY
MAYOR BLAKE. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER GILMORE.
DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
DEPUTYMAYORBLAKE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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Attorney Garganese said, "Pursuant to State Statute, two thirds Vote passes the
Ordinance. It is effective immediately." Attorney Garganese added, "It is the only
Reading. "
Deputy Mayor Blake then asked, "Is there a way to require cross-referencing on the
Ordinance that this extends to Ordinance 2006-08, that adds a section to that - that directs
people to this Ordinance, so that they don't just see that one and they think it has
expired?" Deputy Mayor Blake added, "I guess we could go ahead and put it on the
Website." Attorney Garganese added, "We can put some notation, just to make sure that
people know that it's extended." Deputy Mayor Blake continued by saying, "If
somebody is looking at 2006-08, just so that they understand that there is a subsequent
Ordinance that extends that longer, they don't think that's the end of it." City Clerk
Lorenzo-Luaces stated, "We do have the ability to link items so we could very well link
that Ordinance to this one." Deputy Mayor Blake noted, "That would be great."
ADJOURNMENT
Mayor Bush adjourned the Regular Meeting at 10:10 p.m.
RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED:
DANIELLE HARKER, ASSISTANT TO THE CITY CLERK AND
ANDREA LORENZO-LUACES, CMC
CITY CLERK
APPROVED:
JOHN F. BUSH
MAYOR
NOTE: These Minutes were approved at the
. 2006 Regular City Commission Meeting.
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CALL TO ORDER
The City Commission Regular Meeting of Monday, November 13, 2006 was called to
Order by Mayor John F. Bush at 6:30 p.m. in the Commission Chambers of the
Municipal Building (City Hall, 1126 East State Road 434, Winter Springs, Florida
32708).
Roll Call:
Mayor John F. Bush, present
Deputy Mayor Michael S. Blake, arrived at 6:32 p.m.
Commissioner Robert S. Miller, present
Commissioner Donald A. Gilmore, present
Commissioner Sally McGinnis, absent
Commissioner Joanne M. Krebs, present
City Manager Ronald W. McLemore, present
City Attorney Anthony A. Garganese, arrived at 6:32 p.m.
The Pledge Of Allegiance followed a Moment of Silence.
Under Agenda Changes, Mayor Bush mentioned as Commissioner [Sally] McGinnis was
not present this evening, Commissioner McGinnis has "Asked that we pull this [Regular
Agenda Item '300'] from the Agenda, to schedule it at another Meeting." Is that
acceptable?" Commissioner Joanne M. Krebs stated, "Fine with me." No objections
were noted. Mayor Bush then summarized, "The Dyson Drive then will be at our next
meeting. "
Deputy Mayor Michael S. Blake arrived at 6:32 p.m.
City Attorney Anthony A. Garganese arrived at 6:32 p.m.
PUBLIC INPUT
Mr. Bob Rucci, 973 Turkey Hollow Circle, Winter Springs, Florida: mentioned that the
ninety (90) day window for the permanent Dog Park is coming up and added that his
organization is planning another event in February called the "Hogs and Hounds Puppy
Love Run".
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Mr. David Mize, 1607 Little Sparrow Court, Winter Springs, Florida: congratulated the
winners in the recent Municipal Election, spoke of interest in change; City Commission
Meetings; Election mailers; and asked to be Appointed to one of the City's Advisory
Boards/Committees.
Ms. Maureen Simmons, 2231 Curryville Road, Chuluota, Florida: as the current
President of the Rotary Club of Winter Springs, Ms. Simmons spoke of the Group Study
Exchange and suggested that candidates (Planners and Police Officers) from the City of
Winter Springs be considered to study in Australia in support of this program and said
that a decision would need to be made by the end of the year.
Mr. Tom Brown, 717 A did as Road, Winter Springs, Florida: read a Veterans prayer; and
mentioned a photograph of a dead deer behind the former meatpacking plant property,
and suggested that we and Seminole County check like the Planning and Zoning
Board[ /Local Planning Agency] does, to take precautions to protect animals prior to any
activity on a property. Mr. Brown also congratulated the newly Elected Officials.
Due to technical difficulties, the next audiotape was used.
Tape 2/Side A
Ms. Isabelle Laub, 1372 Blue Spruce Court, Winter Springs, Florida: offered her
congratulations to the newly Elected Officials; spoke of Commissioner Robert S. Miller's
flyer; and asked about the status of the Senior Center renovations.
City Manager Ronald W. McLemore commented on the current process.
Ms. Brenda Brown, 211 Nandina Terrace, Winter Springs, Florida: spoke on
Commissioners sitting on Homeowner's Associations or other organizations of which
there might be a conflict of interest.
Mr. Edward Martinez, Jr., 207 Little Creek Lane, Winter Springs, Florida: congratulated
the newly Elected Officials; spoke of Agenda Item "202"; mentioned Agenda Item
"301"; and spoke about Homeowner's Associations.
AWARDS AND PRESENTATIONS
Fire Chief, Timothy J. Lallathin was presented with a gift check from the Mayor and City
Commission and his fellow employees.
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AWARDS AND PRESENTATIONS
100. Parks And Recreation Department
Presenting The Professional Grounds Management Society "Grand Award" For
Central Winds Park.
Mr. Alan Greene, Parks Superintendent, Parks and Recreation Department presented the
Mayor and City Commission with the "Grand A ward" from the "Professional Grounds
Management Society" for Central Winds Park.
PUBLIC HEARINGS AGENDA
PUBLIC HEARINGS
200. Community Development Department - Planning Division
Requests The City Commission Hold A Public Hearing For The Aesthetic Review
For Lake Jesup Shores, A 76-Unit Townhouse Project Located On 8.7 Acres In The
Town Center On The North Side Of State Road 434, At Wagner's Curve - A
Prominent Location And Gateway To The Town Center.
Mr. Randy Stevenson, ASLA, Director, Community Development Department
introduced this Agenda Item for discussion.
Commissioner Miller mentioned some concerns and suggested, "I think it needs to be
sent back, and just rework the whole thing and come back with a completely new plan."
Commissioner Krebs said, "Commissioner Miller is right. I agree with Staff."
Mayor Bush introduced former Commissioner John Langellotti and former
Commissioner Edward Martinez, Jr. who were in attendance.
Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
No one spoke.
Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
Mr. Chuck Bell, Land Development Manager, Ryland Homes, 4700 Millenia Boulevard,
Suite 400, Orlando, Florida: addressed the City Commission on their proposal.
Manager McLemore commented on the Site Plan and said, "Step back. Maybe have
another Architect look at this and see if you can do some clean-up work and bring it back
for the Commission to look at again."
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Deputy Mayor Blake stated for the Record, "I did meet with him and Mr. Leerdam
several weeks ago, maybe a month ago." Continuing, Deputy Mayor Blake mentioned,
"The long - roofline really creates a problem for me."
Tape 21Side B
Further discussion.
"I WOULD MAKE A MOTION THAT WE FIND THIS NOT IN COMPLIANCE
WITH - MANY OF OUR TOWN CENTER CODES AND ASK RYLAND HOMES
TO GO BACK AND WORK WITH STAFF AND IF YOU WISH TO BRING IT
BACK, BRING IT BACK." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MILLER. MAYOR
BUSH STATED, "SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER GILMORE."
DISCUSSION.
MANAGER McLEMORE STATED, "I WAS GOING TO SUGGEST THAT YOU
MIGHT WANT TO OFFER SOMETHING VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT THE
COMMISSIONER JUST OFFERED AND INSTEAD OF VOTING IT DOWN -
LEAVE IT OPEN FOR THEM TO DECIDE WHAT THEY WANT TO DO, AND
SEE IF THEY WANT TO DO SOMETHING ALONG THE LINES WE TALKED
ABOUT OR STEP BACK AND DO SOMETHING LIKE ENGLES DID WITH
THEIR DEVELOPMENT PROJECT AND GET AN OUTSIDE LOOK."
COMMISSIONER MILLER NOTED, "I TIDNK I ADDRESSED THAT IN THE
MOTION. IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT, I WOULD WELCOME IT."
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
DEPUTYMAYORBLAKE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Attorney Garganese said, "If you are going to give them an opportunity to come back, do
you want to put a time period on that?"
MOTION "THEY BRING IT BACK - WITHIN NINETY (90) DAYS." MOTION
BY COMMISSIONER MILLER. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER KREBS.
DISCUSSION.
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VOTE:
DEPUTYMAYORBLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
201. Community Development Department
Requests That The City Commission Hold A Public Hearing For The Aesthetic
Review Of The Addition Of A 2.55 Square Foot Washington Mutual Non-
Illuminated Sign On One Side (The East Side) Of The Existing Clock-Tower At The
Doran Site, Near The Intersection Of Cliff Rose Drive And State Road 434.
Mr. Stevenson spoke on this Agenda Item.
Discussion ensued on the related signage.
Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
No one spoke.
Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
"MOTION TO DENY." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MILLER. SECONDED
BY COMMISSIONER KREBS. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
DEPUTYMAYORBLAKE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
202. Community Development Department - Planning Division And Office Of
The City Attorney
Request That The City Commission Hold A Public Hearing For Third
Reading/Adoption Of Ordinance 2006-19, Which Amends The Zoning District Code
To Allow Public Recreational Areas And Facilities In The C-l And PUD (Planned
Unit Development) Zoning Districts As Permitted Uses.
Attorney Garganese read the Ordinance by "Title" only.
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Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
No one spoke.
Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
Discussion followed on the proposed language.
Mr. Don Fisher, Deputy County Manager, Seminole County, 1101 East First Street,
Sanford, Florida: commented on the Traffic Study and stated, "We're questioning
whether the Traffic Study might require a thorough review that we get access to the
traffic light, at least for people wanting to go left bound; and to get to the traffic light, you
go behind the Hess Station, and to get to the location, you would have to get onto the
local road before you get onto [State Road] 434. The local road is not an arterial road so
we didn't want to run into any possible issues trying to look to the future - so we
wouldn't have any issues when we got into Site Plan Review."
Further discussion.
Ms. Suzy Goldman, Director of Library and Leisure Services, Seminole County, 1101
East First Street, Sanford, Florida: addressed the City Commission on the proposed
plan.
Much discussion ensued on the wording related to access and acreage.
Attorney Garganese suggested, "Located at the southwest intersection of State Road 417
and State Road 434 and adjacent to state owned recreational lands and contains a
minimum oftwenty (20) acres."
"MOTION TO APPROVE." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MILLER.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER KREBS. DISCUSSION.
ATTORNEY GARGANESE STATED, "I AM STRIKING THE LANGUAGE 'IN
CLOSE PROXIMITY TO LIMITED ACCESS HIGHWAY AND ACCESS FROM
ALL ARTERIAL ROAD' - THAT'S ALL BEING STRICKEN."
ATTORNEY GARGANESE THEN READ THE WORDING ONCE MORE AND
STATED, "PROVIDED SAID AREAS AND FACILITIES ARE LOCATED AT
THE SOUTHWEST INTERSECTION OF STATE ROAD 417 AND STATE ROAD
434 AND ADJACENT TO STATE OWNED RECREATIONAL LANDS AND
CONTAINS A MINIMUM OF TWENTY (20) ACRES OF LAND."
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YOTE:
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
DEPUTYMAYORBLAKE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
203. Community Development Department - Planning Division
In Cooperation With The City Attorney And City Engineer Request That The City
Commission Hold A Public Hearing For First Reading Of Ordinance 2006-20,
Establishing A Methodology For Assessing Proportionate Fair-Share Mitigation For
Transportation Concurrency Management, Pursuant To The Requirements Of
Section 163.3180 (16), Florida Statutes.
Mayor Bush stated, "Motion to read by 'Title' only?"
"SO MOYED." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MILLER. SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER KREBS. DISCUSSION.
YOTE:
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Attorney Garganese read the Ordinance by "Title" only.
Discussion followed with Mr. Brian Fields, P.E., City Engineer, Public Works
Department.
Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
No one spoke.
Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
"MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM '203' - MOVE TO SECOND READING."
MOTION BY COMMISSIONER KREBS. SECONDED. DISCUSSION.
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VOTE:
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
DEPUTYMAYORBLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
REGULAR AGENDA
REGULAR
300. Public Works Department
Requesting The City Commission To Consider A Second Straw Ballot For The
Proposed Dyson Drive Traffic Calming Project.
As noted earlier in the Meeting, this Agenda Item was postponed to the next City
Commission Meeting.
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301. Office Of The Mayor
Requesting That The City Commission Review The "Public Input" Data In This
Agenda Item And The Attached Related Spreadsheet And Decide Whether They
Want To Implement Any New Or Revised "Policy" Related To "Public Input".
Discussion.
Commissioner Miller stated, "I concur." Furthermore, Commissioner Miller added, "We
don't need to do anything with this, just leave everything the way it is."
No further comments were made.
Mayor Bush called a Recess at 8: 18 p. m.
The Meeting was called back to Order by Mayor Bush.
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302. Office Of The City Clerk
Requesting The City Commission Decide Upon The Time When The 2006
Inauguration Ceremonies Should Be Held. Additionally, The City Commission Is
Also Being Asked To Consider And Approve The Information In This Agenda Item
Regarding Some Of The Details Planned For The Upcoming Inauguration
Ceremonies.
Discussion.
"I MAKE A MOTION FOR SEVEN P.M. ON THE 4TH [OF DECEMBER]."
MOTION BY COMMISSIONER GILMORE. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER
KREBS. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
DEPUTYMAYORBLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Regarding the recommendation that the Commission agree to continuing with what has
been done before in terms of cost and style, Mayor Bush remarked, "I think Andrea
[Lorenzo- Luaces, City Clerk] has always done a great job with these kind of things and 1
leave it up to you Andrea [Lorenzo-Luaces]."
"MOTION TO CAP IT AT THREE - THOUSAND [DOLLARS] ($3,000.00)."
MOTION BY COMMISSIONER KREBS.
MOTION DIED FOR LACK OF A SECOND.
"MOVE THIRTY-FIVE HUNDRED [DOLLARS] ($3,500.00) CAP." MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER GILMORE. SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE.
DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
DEPUTYMAYORBLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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303. Community Development Department - City Arborist
Recommends The City Commission Consider The Request Of Pete Smith Of 1004
Troon Trace To Remove One (1) Specimen Tree Located On The Resident's Private
Lot.
Mr. Mike Mingea, Arborist, Community Development Departments presenting this
Agenda Item explained, "Basically what we tried to suggest is simply remove the tree,
remove some of the stump material. They are going to come back in and grade that lot
there and to re-sod. They have also agreed to - do replacement tree replantings with the
Homeowner's Association, not onto this ground - not here on this site to create yet
another future problem, but to place them out into the common area there with the
Homeowner's Association."
Further discussion.
"MOTION TO DENY." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MILLER.
MOTION DIED FOR LACK OF A SECOND.
"MOTION TO APPROVE." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER GILMORE.
MOTION DIED FOR LACK OF A SECOND.
Discussion ensued on the roots affecting the drainage and whether the roots could be
pruned.
Regarding the re-plantings, Deputy Mayor Blake inquired, "Would those replantings take
place on the property or elsewhere?" Mr. Mingea responded, "That would not be as 1
mentioned earlier, there is not much in the way of space." Mr. Mingea added, "Those are
to go on a common ground. They are for the Homeowner's Association. 1 discussed this
with them. They presented it to their Homeowner's Association Board. They seemed to
be willing to comply."
Discussion.
Commissioner Krebs said to Mr. Mingea, "1 was wondering when you mentioned the tree
replacement, that would be required. Are we monitoring that? Do we have time to
monitor that? How will we make sure that that would take place?"
Mr. Mingea remarked, "You're required within thirty (30) days of the issue of the permit
to have your replacement tree replantings. They've indicated voluntarily that they will do
such. We can go see that that's occurring." Mr. Mingea added, "This is done in a good
faith effort, particularly with the Homeowner's Associations."
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Deputy Mayor Blake said, "Since the trees are going to be replanted elsewhere, can't we
require that the tree re-plantings are done prior to the issuance of the permit to take the
tree down?" Mr. Mingea said, "I would beg for that. 1 asked for that years ago when we
did our Arbor Ordinance and 1 certainly would appreciate that vote of confidence."
Further discussion.
"I WOULD BE WILLING TO MAKE A MOTION TO PERMIT THE REMOVAL
OF THE SPECIMEN TREE WITH THE PERMIT BEING ISSUED - ONCE THE
CITY ARBORIST HAS VERIFIED THAT THE REQUIRED REPLANTINGS OF
THE FIVE (5) UNITS HAVE INDEED TAKEN PLACE - IN ADVANCE OF THE
REMOVAL PERMIT, THE REPLANTINGS HAVE TO BE IN PLACE;
PLANTED, WATERED, THE WHOLE DEAL." MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR
BLAKE. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER GILMORE. DISCUSSION.
COMMISSIONER GILMORE THEN ASKED, "WHERE WERE THESE TREES
GOING TO BE PLANTED?" MR. MINGEA NOTED, "THEY WOULD NOT BE
ON TO THIS SITE. WHAT THE HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION HAS
CURRENTLY VOLUNTEERED IS THEY HAVE A SPACE ALONG THEIR
COMMON ENTRANCE THERE, I BELIEVE ON OLD WHITE WAY AS IT
COMES IN, THERE IS A SMALL POND AREA THERE, ACROSS FROM
BYRON GILTZ'; AND I BELIEVE THAT THAT'S ONE OF THE LOCATIONS
AND THE OTHER WAS AT ONE OF THE HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION'S
PERSONAL LOTS. THEY HAVE SPACE FOR IT THAT THEY WISH TO
HAVE SUCH AND MAINTAIN IT THEMSELVES."
COMMISSIONER GILMORE ADDED, "THAT WOULD BE ACCEPTABLE
THEN, THAT THE TREES WOULD BE OFF THIS SITE?" MR. MINGEA
STATED, "YES. THAT'S RIGHT."
VOTE:
DEPUTYMAYORBLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: NAY
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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304. Community Development Department - Public Works Department
Requests The City Commission Approve A Site Development Permit Agreement
With Tousa Homes, Inc. For Site Clearing At Sonesta Pointe.
Mr. Stevenson addressed the City Commission on this Agenda Item.
MAYOR BUSH STATED, "MOTION FOR APPROVAL BY COMMISSIONER
GILMORE." SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MILLER. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
DEPUTYMAYORBLAKE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
CONSENT AGENDA
CONSENT
400. Information Services Department
Requests Authorization To Proceed With Installation Of The New Public Works
Facility Telephone System With Orlando Business Telephone System As The
Vendor In The Amount Of $13,962.00.
This Agenda Item was not discussed.
CONSENT
401. Information Services Department
Requests Authorization For Orlando Business Telephone Systems To Proceed With
Installation Of Cabling At The New Public Works Facility In The Amount Of
$18,013.00.
No discussion.
CONSENT
402. Utility Department
Requesting Authorization To Continue To Use The Services Of Shelley's
Environmental Systems For Domestic Wastewater Residuals Hauling.
There was no discussion on this Agenda Item.
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403. Parks And Recreation Department
Requesting The City Commission To Authorize The City Manager To Execute The
Agreement Between The City Of Winter Springs And The Scottish American
Society Of Central Florida, Inc.
This Agenda Item was not discussed.
CONSENT
404. Parks And Recreation Department
Requesting Authorization For An Adjustment In Design Fees For
Architectural/Engineering Design Services With Starmer Ranaldi Planning And
Architecture, Inc., For Enclosing The Expansion Of The Senior Center And
Therapy Pool At A Cost Of $70,000.00 (Increase Of $16,000.00).
No discussion.
CONSENT
405. Information Services Department
Requests Authorization To Renew The Annual Telephone System Maintenance
Agreement With Orlando Business Telephone Systems (OBTS) In The Amount Of
$14,792.00 And Authorize Quarterly Payments In The Amount Of $3,698.00.
There was no discussion on this Agenda Item.
CONSENT
406. Information Services Department
Requests Authorization To Dispose Of Surplus Assets According To The Attached
Disposition Sheets.
Brief discussion.
CONSENT
407. Information Services Department
Requests Authorization To Pay Invoice For Annual Fiber Optic Communication
Network Interlocal Agreement In The Amount Of $17,272.64.
This Agenda Item was not discussed.
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408. Fire Department
Requesting Authorization To Enter Into A Contract For The Replacement Of All
Bay Doors With Hurricane Wind Proof Doors 75% Funded By The Hazard
Mitigation Grant Program.
No discussion.
CONSENT
409. Public Works Department
Requesting Authorization To Piggyback Off Of The Seminole County Contract
With Orlando Paving Company For The Resurfacing Of Phase I Of Winter Springs
Boulevard.
There was no discussion on this Agenda Item.
CONSENT
410. Information Services Department
Requests City Commission Authorize An Additional Appropriation In The Amount
Of $710.00 In Order To Secure The Commission Chambers Wi-Fi Hotspot.
This Agenda Item was not discussed.
CONSENT
411. Office Of The City Clerk
Requesting Approval Of The October 23, 2006 Regular City Commission Meeting
Minutes.
No discussion.
CONSENT
412. Office Of The City Clerk
Requesting Approval Of The November 1,2006 Special City Commission Meeting
Minutes.
There was no discussion on this Agenda Item.
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"MOTION FOR APPROVAL" (CONSENT AGENDA). MOTION BY DEPUTY
MAYOR BLAKE. MAYOR BUSH STATED, "SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER GILMORE." DISCUSSION.
CITY CLERK LORENZO-LUACES, ASKED, "IF I COULD JUST ASK, DOES
THAT INCLUDE THE COMMENTS FROM THE I.S. (INFORMATION
SERVICES) [DEPARTMENT] DIRECTOR IN HER MEMO TO YOU ALL, ON
ITEM '406'1"
COMMISSIONER KREBS SAID, "YES, FOR ME." DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE
SAID, "YES." NO OBJECTIONS WERE NOTED.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
INFORMATIONAL AGENDA
INFORMATIONAL
500. Community Development Department
Advising The City Commission Of The Status Of Various Current Planning
Projects.
There was no discussion on this Agenda Item.
INFORMATIONAL
501. Community Development Department - Planning Division And Office Of
The City Attorney
Wish To Advise The City Commission On The Status Of The Large Scale
Comprehensive Plan Transmittal To DCA (Department Of Community Affairs).
This Agenda Item was not discussed.
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INFORMATIONAL
502. Office Of The City Clerk
Wishes To Inform The City Commission Of The Results Of The November 7, 2006
City Of Winter Springs Municipal Election.
No discussion.
"MOTION TO APPROVE" (INFORMATIONAL AGENDA). MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER MILLER. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER GILMORE.
DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
REPORTS
REPORTS
600. Office Of The City Attorney - Anthony A. Garganese, Esquire
Attorney Garganese said, "Just a few things I just need to update the Commission about -
In the Comprehensive Plan challenge, Highlands Homeowner's Association v. City of
Winter Springs, that Case has been set for Expedited Hearing on November 29th, [2006]
and November 30th, [2006]. The Hearing will be here, at City Commission Chambers."
Next, Attorney Garganese remarked, "And regarding the Hayes Road right turn lane, we,
after receiving an - Appraisal for the property, we sent a written formal offer to the
Property Owner. We did not receive any response from the Property Owner for a
voluntary conveyance of the land necessary for the right turn lane. So we're proceeding
forward with the filing of a petition exercising eminent domain authority to acquire that
property. "
Continuing, Attorney Garganese advised the City Commission that "In the Case, Binford
v. the City of Winter Springs, the City's Motion for Summary Judgment is scheduled for
December 7th, [2006]. That comes on the heels of the City prevailing on the directed
Verdict for Selective Enforcement; so that will be coming up in less than a month.
"In the Case of Roy v. the City of Winter Springs et aI, we did receive late last week a
new settlement proposal from the Roy's. We're evaluating that with Staff and we'll get
back to you to the extent we need to."
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Lastly, Attorney Garganese remarked that "The Cell Tower Communication Ordinance is
scheduled for Planning and Zoning Board review on December 6th, [2006]. And that will
come back to the Commission for First Reading, maybe in December. If not, maybe in
January of [20]'07."
Commissioner Donald A. Gilmore said to Attorney Garganese, "We put in a temporary
Ordinance for compatibility and I believe that was expiring in six (6) months which is
about up?" Attorney Garganese remarked, "I am going to check that date and I can get
back to you on that."
REPORTS
601. Office Of The City Manager - Ronald W. McLemore
Manager McLemore said, "Two (2) things. First, I just need to get your Consensus or
approval on something. I've been invited to do a contribution to a book, it's an
academic book. This would be the third contribution I've made to the literature in
book form. The reason I was interested in it, and I haven't done much in the last four
(4) or five (5) years because the City's kept me so busy - but the reason I was interested
in this one was because they've asked, they wanted an article on a new urbanism
project, case study. And so I said, {Okay', subject to you being comfortable with that
And again, it's purely an academic; it's not anything else other than that. So, I just
generally want to make you aware of that and see if you're okay with it. "
Deputy Mayor Blake inquired, {{What type of financial arrangement are you
anticipating with this endeavor?" Manager McLemore said, uFor me?" Deputy
Mayor Blake said, "Yes." Manager McLemore replied, {{Zero." Deputy Mayor Blake
said, "I think it's probably appropriate - in the interest of the City and yourself, that
that be memorialized..." Manager McLemore said, {{...No problem." Deputy Mayor
Blake said, {~nd I'm just trying to keep everything clean and clear. And especially - if
you're going to be spending some time on it - but I just don't want there, especially in
this community, to be any additional questions, that we would then have to find Elected
folks answering for, {Why didn't you police things up a little better'." Manager
McLemore said, {{I'll give you a letter from the Professor saying that it's truly
academic with no funds involved." Deputy Mayor Blake said, {{That would suit me
fine, I don't know what everybody else feels." No objections were noted.
Manager McLemore said, "The other item is - I want to hand you out a copy of the
revised proposed Agreement with JDC (James Doran Company) that we really just
completed today." Discussion.
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Further discussion ensued on the Town Center and the Special Meeting scheduled for
tomorrow. Deputy Mayor Blake said, "Sometime before tomorrow, early afternoon,
could 1 have a list from you and your Staff of all of the outstanding issues? Because 1
will tell you that sitting here, just moments ago, was the first time 1 heard about the wall
next to the McDonald's." Deputy Mayor Blake added, "I think we need to figure out
what are all the issues, discuss what all ofthe issues are, and then let's move forward."
Commissioner Krebs said, "I had the same - when 1 saw the Agenda and it said 'Parking
and other issues' - and 1 had also wanted to know what those issues were. But if you say
they're all in here, then 1 will review this tonight and tomorrow - everything that is going
to come up is - addressed here."
Deputy Mayor Blake said, "Well, as soon as you get that document, will you email it to
each of us?" Manager McLemore said, "Be happy to. And they may email it directly to
you, but as soon as 1 can get, I'll send it right to you."
Commissioner Krebs said, "And 1 am glad you brought up that point about the balconies.
And 1 am sure there were discussions about that. 1 don't, 1 wasn't up here, so 1 don't
recall them and 1 was wondering if there was some type of documents out there that 1
could review so that 1 could understand the complete spirit of what was intended, why it
was intended, what balconies we are supposed to do, for instance? And when 1 spoke
with Shane [Doran] or George [Tullos], they indicated that that was for shade and if those
discussions took place, 1 would like to understand the context of which that took place.
And if there is such a document; 1 would like to know that."
Manager McLemore said, "It's laid out in the Code and somewhere we had a rendering
from our Consultant, Victor Dover, on that because that question had come up a lot. And
he's just very adamant about that as a standard for buildings to provide both shade, relief
from rain. And for example, when have a colonnade, you don't have to do it..."
Commissioner Krebs commented, "... Well, that is what I am wondering. If you have a
colonnade, do you have to have a balcony? Can you have a balcony above it, above the
colonnade?" Manager McLemore responded, "I suppose you could." Commissioner
Krebs said, "And if you do - this is all what I'm trying to find out, can the balcony be less
than six feet (6') on the second floor if you have the colonnade that meets that
requirement?" Manager McLemore then explained, "I don't think there's any
requirement a balcony at all when you have a colonnade." Commissioner Krebs noted, "I
understand that, but what happens if you want to put one in?" Manager McLemore said,
"Sure, there wouldn't be a need, 1 think, to require the six feet (6')."
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Manager McLemore continued, "The intent is to have some uniformity when you look
down the street and you have some relief for people when they're going into a building,
that they're not going to have the rain beating down on them. That there's a place there
that they can stop, you know, for a minute, and take off your coat and whatever you do
before you move into a building; just to give you some relief from some temperature and
rain; and to provide some uniformity of the look."
Commissioner Krebs said, "Well, since you feel that's going to come up tomorrow, then I
would appreciate any information that I could read up on to help me make the best
decision that I can make." Manager McLemore asked, "Are you available tomorrow?"
Commissioner Krebs replied by saying, "We can talk afterwards."
Brief discussion.
Manager McLemore said, "One other thing - that I need to point out to you, which you'll
see in the cover letter. And the other big issue for us was that we had in the Final
Engineering plans, sixty-two (62) parking spaces put aside. Those were results from
negotiations that we had, even though yes, they didn't have our name on them at that
point in time, and the fact that now, those spaces were to go away and to be used for the
other tenant that we talked about. That was a big, big issue for us. Now, he tells me he
has a solution for that."
Manager McLemore further explained, "There were sixty-two (62) spaces over and
beyond, their requirements for general parking - in the north garage. You have Final
Engineering approval of that, of sixty-two (62) units that were set aside, that was a
product of negotiations with us. That got into the Final Engineering, which you
approved, and then the idea they want to take those away and use them for some other
use was a real problem for us." Commissioner Krebs asked, "They wanted to take them
away?" Manager McLemore remarked, "Yes, they wanted to use those spots now for
their new tenants that we talked about.
So, to me, one (1) of the things we have to solve tomorrow night is a way by which we
get those units back to us instead of use for some other tenant. And the other issue was
the double counting of the spaces on Tuskawilla [Road], which had already been counted
in Phase I, years ago. So anyhow, he tells me he has a solution for all that and I hope he
does. "
Further discussion.
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602. Office Of The City Clerk - Andrea Lorenzo-Luaces, CMC
City Clerk Lorenzo-Luaces reminded the City Commission about the Special Meeting
scheduled for 6:30 p.m., November 14, 2006; and the Pension Workshop scheduled for
7:30 p.m. on Thursday, November 16,2006. City Clerk Lorenzo-Luaces also reminded
the City Commission that the Board of Trustees will be having their Regular Meeting on
November 16,2006 at 6:30 p.m.
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603. Commission Seat One - Robert S. Miller
Commissioner Miller stated, "I would like to get the Commission's Consensus to go
forward to the - Authority - and raise the issue again about the seventy-five cents
($.75) from Winter Springs to Oviedo - the Turnpike Authority. "
With further comments, Mayor Bush remarked, "I think everybody agrees with you on
this. You have Consensus. Commissioner Miller said to Mayor Bush, "We need a
solution." We're counting on you to do it. I will raise it again the next couple of
weeks. "
Deputy Mayor Blake said, "You know, you could tell Mayor Walters (City of Oviedo)
that you have the support of the Board and see if two (2) cities want to - sue the
Turnpike Authority to force them to do what we all know, and they have shown that
they can do." Mayor Bush said, "I would be glad to talk to him about it. "
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604. Commission Seat Two/Deputy Mayor - Michael S. Blake
Deputy Mayor Blake said, "The only thing I wanted to talk about tonight was also
related to the 417, Turnpike Authority and that is as many people know, or may know,
they are in the progress of going through the public information meetings to expand it
out to six (6) lanes. Three (3) lanes north, three (3) lanes south. Which would be of
course a fifty percent (50%) increase." Deputy Mayor Blake added, "And one of the
really important problems with that is that means there will be even more traffic, more
noise, and more impact on the neighborhood's, the residential areas that are adjacent
to the roadway. And I think that the City should take the lead on lobbying the Turnpike
Authority to make sure that the funds are indeed expended to build a sound wall on the
Winter Springs side. And if we want to work with the City of Oviedo because they are
similarly impacted, I think it makes sense there as welL"
Discussion.
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Deputy Mayor Blake continued, nso I would like to have the Board's support on that. "
Mayor Bush stated, "I think everybody would support that. " No objections were noted.
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605. Commission Seat Three - Donald A. Gilmore
Commissioner Gilmore asked about the paving of the Winter Springs Boulevard and the
status of it.
Discussion followed with Mr. Kip Lockcuff, P.E., Director, Public WorkslUtility
Department.
Mayor Bush said to Mr. Lockcuff, "While you are there, I am sure Commissioner
Gilmore's also going to ask you about [State Road] 434, on the west side."
Mr. Lockcuff said, "Should have a DOT (Department of Transportation) permit any day
is what we're thinking - so it's in permitting and it has been for six (6) weeks."
Further discussion.
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606. Commission Seat Four - Sally McGinnis
Absent.
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607. Commission Seat Five - Joanne M. Krebs
Commissioner Krebs said, n...These 'Celebrate Excellence' [medallionslfrom the Park
that we received. I thought would really be nice placed - in a frame of some sort with a
picture of the park and this mounted in with it. And so I thought that would be a good
ideafor us. Just wondering how the Commission wouldfeel about that?" Mayor Bush
asked, nCommissioners, are you in agreement with Commissioner Krebs'
recommendation? Is to put together - a plaque, picture of the park with maybe one (1)
of these medallions embedded in it to be displayed, maybe in the lobby?" No objections
were noted.
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Next, Commissioner Krebs remarked, "Then also I wanted to bring - forward some
information and I would like us to look in the future, and I will probably be bringing
some more information back. And I got to thinking, especially when I am driving
down Tuskawilla Road in the evening, and I see the water, the recyclable water,
watering all of the wondeiful vegetation on Tuskawilla {Road] - but what I was really
thinking, the planting's really, really, really nice, but what I would like to see is Winter
Springs be a leader and utilizing xeriscape type techniques. And one of the things that
I was thinking would be really nice is if we had something in our parks, some area in
our park that was actually a demo where this type of gardening would take place. If
you've ever seen it before - some people think it's rocks and cactus, but it's not. It
could look very, very tropical
I would like to see something, like us lead in that and then take it even a step further as
to educate, have maybe classes once a month where we offer some type of educational
services to the citizens so that they too can utilize that technique. It's going to save
water in the future. Also, we'll be able to redirect some of the recyclable water to the
citizens returning yet another service. And at the same time, leading in Florida where
we need to go in the first place. So I would really like us to... "
Mayor Bush asked, ... "Commissioner Krebs, do you think that might be something
that we could ask the BOWS (Beautification of Winter Springs) Board to address?"
Commissioner Krebs said, "If we could do that, that would be wonderful." Mayor
Bush said, "I think that would be a good use of the Board's time." Commissioner
Krebs said, "That would be really a good project something - but I mean really, in the
end come up with something that we all benefit by but have some place where we can
visit. It could even be a passive park area, but it's all, it's an example of what someone
could do in their yard; but also then hold classes to teach people how to do that. "
Ms. Ethel Beecher, 1207 Winter Springs Boulevard, Winter Springs, Florida: as a
Member of the Beautification of Winter Springs Board, Ms. Beecher spoke regarding the
Board's plans for Arbor Day to inform citizens of native plants and other information
relating to education on different topics.
With further comments, Mayor Bush asked Ms. Beecher, "Could you take that back to
the BOWS (Beautification of Winter Springs Board), what Commissioner Krebs has
brought up tonight and kind of get a feel for how your Committee - what they would
think about it and maybe come back and let us know?" Ms. Beecher said, "Sure."
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Manager McLemore said, "I'd really like to agenda this item for after the first of the
year for a full discussion. It's a pretty big issue and we need to know the upsides and
the downsides of that. It's not the native plants that bother me so much, but the strict
application of xeriscape, I don't think you're going to be happy with on your righi-of-
ways. We need to have a good discussion of that." Mayor Bush stated, "Commissioner
Krebs, you okay with that?" Commissioner Krebs replied, "Right. I am fine with it."
Mayor Bush asked, "The rest of the Commission as well?" No objections were noted.
REPORTS
608. Office Of The Mayor - John F. Bush
Mayor Bush said, "I wanted to bring your attention on December the 11 th, [2006] at the
Seminole County - Commission Chambers, the Legislative Action date. You might be
thinking about what we need, if you want to present anything at that time. Maybe you'll
let Mr. McLemore know. I will be going to it."
Deputy Mayor Blake said, "That would be an ideal time to get with the City of Oviedo
and bring up the funding for the sound wall." Mayor Bush said, "Good point."
Mayor Bush said, "If you would let me know of any issues that you would like covered
or Mr. McLemore, then he and I will get together and try to get something so you can see
if before that date."
Continuing, Mayor Bush remarked, "Our [Winter Springs] Open Space [Advisory Study]
Committee, you know, we should be getting ready to have about the first meeting. I
would like to ask the Commission if we could appoint an Ex-Officio member, Michael
Barr, from the Seminole Soil and Conservation District. He is very interested in -
working with our [Winter Springs] Open Space [Advisory Study] Committee. Would
you have any objection to having him as an Ex-Officio member?"
Deputy Mayor Blake commented, "I would not be in favor of that. 1 think we have
convened a Board of our citizens that have like interests. I think we have Staff that's
going to provide the professional expertise that will be required. And the Commission's
given them a directive and I think when you start having outside people, such as Mr.
Barr, maybe who have a broader interest in what we're trying to do just here in Winter
Springs, that it could tend to lead in perhaps a different direction then what we're looking
for. "
With further discussion, Mayor Bush asked, "Commissioners, do you agree with
Commissioner Blake and I won't bother talking to this guy about?" Commissioner
Miller said, "I do. I agree with Commissioner Blake."
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Tape 4/Side A
Mayor Bush then asked about the Binford Case.
Attorney Garganese stated, "That Emergency Ordinance that we have in place for
aesthetic review of residential structures expires before your next regularly scheduled
Commission Meeting. It will expire on November 22nd, [2006]. I put before you a draft
Emergency Ordinance - it would extend the sunset provision an additional six (6)
months. You can consider this Emergency Ordinance tonight or perhaps we can agenda
the Ordinance maybe during your Special Meeting?
"I WOULD LIKE A MOTION THAT WE DIRECT THE CITY ATTORNEY TO
READ ORDINANCE 2006-22." MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER GILMORE. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Attorney Garganese read Emergency Ordinance 2006-22 in its entirety.
Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
No one spoke.
Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
"I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT THE CITY OF WINTER
SPRINGS CITY COMMISSIONERS FIND THAT THERE IS AN EMERGENCY
SITUATION AND ADOPTS ORDINANCE 2006-22." MOTION BY DEPUTY
MAYOR BLAKE. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER GILMORE.
DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
DEPUTYMAYORBLAKE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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Attorney Garganese said, "Pursuant to State Statute, two thirds Vote passes the
Ordinance. It is effective immediately." Attorney Garganese added, "It is the only
Reading. "
Deputy Mayor Blake then asked, "Is there a way to require cross-referencing on the
Ordinance that this extends to Ordinance 2006-08, that adds a section to that - that directs
people to this Ordinance, so that they don't just see that one and they think it has
expired?" Deputy Mayor Blake added, "I guess we could go ahead and put it on the
Website." Attorney Garganese added, "We can put some notation, just to make sure that
people know that it's extended." Deputy Mayor Blake continued by saying, "If
somebody is looking at 2006-08, just so that they understand that there is a subsequent
Ordinance that extends that longer, they don't think that's the end of it." City Clerk
Lorenzo- Luaces stated, "We do have the ability to link items so we could very well link
that Ordinance to this one." Deputy Mayor Blake noted, "That would be great."
ADJOURNMENT
Mayor Bush adjourned the Regular Meeting at 1 0: 1 0 p.m.
RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED:
DANIELLE HARKER, ASSISTANT TO THE CITY CLERK AND
APPROVED:
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JO F.BUSH '
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NOTE: These Minutes were approved at the November 27,2006 Regular City Commission Meeting.