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HomeMy WebLinkAbout2003 11 10 Regular 507 Dollar General Store Architectural Features COMMISSION AGENDA ADD-ON ITEM 507 CONSENT INFORMATIONAL PUBLIC HEARING REGULAR X November 10.2003 Meeting MGR.;lwV /Dept. ;ff Authorization REQUEST: The Community Development Department presents to the City Commission, several architectural features pertaining to the Dollar General store. PURPOSE: The purpose of this agenda item is to present architectural features that the City Commission expressed concern for during the September 8, 2003, City Commission meeting, when approving the final engineering/site plan (8,125 SF building on 1.355 acre). The site is on the north side ofSR 434, west ofSheoah Boulevard and immediately east of the existing Winter Springs Golf Club and immediately west of the existing Sheoah Section 1 dwellings. CONSIDERATIONS: At the September 8, 2003, City Commission meeting, the City Commission required the following architectural changes for the Dollar General store on SR 434: 1. the color of the roof shingles (the applicant has provided a selection of 11 colors for the Commission to choose from - the applicant's top 3 preferences in order are: "beachwood sand," "driftwood," and "estate gray"); 2. lights to be changed to acorn fixtures (staff has provided the applicant with specifications for acceptable acorn light fixtures; the applicant has provided a new lighting plan with 4 acorn lights instead of the 3 downward-directed lights previously depicted); and 3. the wall between the east side of the site and the Sheoah Section 1 dwellings is to be split face block with a triangular cap, to be sand concrete or painted to match the rest of the wall (the applicant has supplied a sample of the proposed color - "relaxed khaki"; the attached site plan depicts 2 wall scenarios for the City Commission to choose from - one 1 November 10,2003 Regular Item 507 Page 2 with the split-face side facing both sides or facing the Sheoah dwellings and the other with the store side being painted the same color and the building). The Commission also required the applicant to provide 2 larger trees from the preferred plant list that the arborist would agree upon for the area in front of the building. The applicant's team has been working with the arborist. RECOMMENDATION: Staff recommends the City Commission approve (1) the most appropriate of the proposed colors for the Dollar General shingles, (2) the location of the 4 acorn lights that replace the 3 proposed down-ward directed shoebox type lights previously depicted on the plans - prior to light installation, the applicant must provide photometric plan to staff demonstrating no off-site spillage onto residential property, and (3) which of the 2 proposed wall face alternatives is to be provided. ATTACHMENTS: A. Revised plan and renderings. B. September 8, 2003, Minutes C. Previous lighting plan D. Arborist's memo CITY COMMISSION ACTION: 2 -< ~ z ~ ~ == u -< ~ ~ -< & CONT. 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RIGHT SIDE ELEVATION REo 1f...I..... ~7-llGOClfo-D:JlIl_a."-r""1 ~fl.A ~ FLORIDA t r:'1Tolillr.r.l~rir.I xM21Scd'1P1rt.Qde - ..... i ~R."'" i PGf37f)-5f1j5 S F<<JJ~ i U:cneM3.~ I'\"q.dlmtler: DaI06-<<ll1 .... .... 5/12If1l -... """" -- & ~11I/03 ~ . !~ i z o ~ 0:: W o 0:: << 8: ~ ~ 8 co u. ~ i ~ !M g, g, ~ ~ I :) ~ ...J o Cl CIJ Z o ~ > W ...J W Cl z 15 ...J 5 In ~ . Sheet Nurrtler: ~ A3.1 ATTACHMENT B CITY OF WINTER SPRfNGS MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - SEPTEMBER 8,2003 PAGE 11 OF 30 .:..:. AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING REGULAR AGENDA ITEMS WERE DISCUSSED IN THE ORDER AS DOCUMENTED. .:. .:. REGULAR REGULAR 25. G. Community Development Department Requests That The City Commission Remove From The Table The Final Engineering/Site Plan And Proposed Building Rendering For The Dollar General Store, Along With The Removal Of Four (4) Healthy Specimen Trees. Mayor Bush stated, "Requests That The City Commission Remove From The Table The Final Engineering/Site Plan And Proposed Building Rendering For The Dollar General Store, Along With The Removal Of Four (4) Healthy" Specimen Trees. "SO MOVED." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ. SECONDED. DISCUSSION. VOTE: COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ: AYE COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER: AYE COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE COMMISSIONER BLAKE: NAY MOTION CARRIED. Mr. Baker introduced this Agenda Item to the City Commission and stated, "The Site Plan remains unchanged - we do have a new Building Rendering from where the Applicant did meet with the City Manager and came up with this much more aesthetically appealing design." Mr. Dennis L. Wood, P.E., 1925 Bartow Road, Lakeland, Florida: as the Site Engineer for this project, Mr. Wood addressed the City Commission regarding the changes that have been made. Commissioner McGinnis asked Mr. Wood to look at the "Split Faced" of the building and stated, "In looking at the color rendering, is that gray?" Mr. Wood responded by saying, "They designate the color as 'Quiver Tan.'" Commissioner McGinnis then said to Mr. Wood, "It is not that gray, industrial type look?" Mr. Wood said, "Correct." Commissioner McGinnis then stated, "Okay, that is good. Also - the condominiums on the other side of this building - that Homeowner's Association has reiterated their request also that the wall be brick. Furthermore, we would ask that any wall - that there be something in the Developer's Agreement that would mandate maintaining the wall, and keeping it clean." Mr. Wood said, "We have it identified as a 'Split Faced Block' wall which would be painted the same color - as the Faced Block on the other." CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - SEPTEMBER 8, 2003 PAGE 12 OF 30 Mr. Wood then explained, "If you have been to the site and you stand in this area here- along this area here, that is probably about fifty (50) to 100 feet from the property line here is a group of real large Oak Trees that has a canopy that goes down basically to the ground. If you back this way, you can't even see these condos - and we are planning along that side there, just as a hedge - a continual hedge that goes around this side, along this side - if you will see the block wall, we show these brick - the reason we show this, they may be more than a couple of them, but there - this whole side is heavily wooded also - a lot of trees are not shown here. Our intentions are not to remove those trees, they will remain in place and we'll put the wall around the trees as best we can." Furthermore, Mr. Wood stated, "The question was asked last time, above the 'Split Faced Block,' this area here, there is no metal building features to this one; the metal building is no longer a portion. This is all conventional type construction - 'Split Faced Block,' above it will be stucco finished block and - and those are mostly - they look like real windows, but they're kind of windows - I call them fake windows, but you can't tell they're not real windows unless you go inside." Mr. Wood then spoke of landscaping and commented on the plantings along the perimeter - "There is a substantial lot of plantings along the west side, along the perimeter there that basically is on a kind of a berm above the retention pond." Next, Commissioner McGinnis inquired, "What color is the roof?" Mr. Wood stated, "They identify it on the plans as white - and there is nothing sacred about the white." Mr. Wood then said, "The color of the roof, and actually the color of the building if you wanted to - we are still going to have- if you vote to approve this - we're still going to have some time of going through the building permit process if someone from the City or someone from this Commission wants to - look at more depth to it and have a better idea of maybe another color blend - I don't think there is anything sacred about the color." Commissioner McGinnis stated, "I would recommend that be changed. And what do you have against real windows? Why are they not real windows?" Discussion. Commissioner David W. McLeod said to Manager McLemore, "I have to commend you for what you have done, in a short turnaround time. I think it is a 110 percent better looking building than what we were looking at a couple of weeks ago - and directed Staff - to look at those windows, what are they made out of?" Commissioner McLeod then said to Manager McLemore, "I would direct you to - with this Commission to give direction that perhaps we use the same type material that we are using on the windows over here - presently at the Town Center." Discussion. Deputy Mayor Robert S. Miller said to Mr. Wood, "The north wall, the north face, the back lot of your building - the back lot line opens up on the golf course, and there is a lot of residential stuff back there. I would prefer to see a wall on the north side." Furthermore, Deputy Mayor Miller added, "The wall on the east is good, but the - lack of a wall on the north seriously concerns me. I would like to see that included." CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - SEPTEMBER 8, 2003 PAGE 13 OF 30 Next, Deputy Mayor Miller spoke on the proposed State Road 434 Village Walk, and stated, "We are going to put special lighting in on [State Road] 434. There is already special lighting on Sheoah Boulevard. It is 'Acorn' type lighting - we have 'Acorn' lighting in our Town Center. We are going to have 'Acorn' lighting along that roadway and I would seriously like to see you consider putting 'Acorn' lighting in the parking lot." Regarding traffic, Deputy Mayor Miller suggested that Staff consider traffic concerns such as potential u-turns and turning into the Highlands community. Deputy Mayor Miller also suggested that the entrance location be reconsidered. Commissioner Blake left the Commission Chambers at 8:14 p.m. Deputy Mayor Miller then stated, "I really prefer brick walls if at all possible. In that area I think it deserves a brick wall." Tape 2/Side A Next, regarding lighting issues, Mr. Baker stated, "If you look on your Lighting plan that is a part of the site plan in your packet, you will notice that they have not only the photometrics, but they show the downward directed shoebox type lighting, so that would be a change to what was approved." Deputy Mayor Miller added, "I am not happy with the blueprints, the way they show up and I don't want someone to stand here with their Attorney six (6) months from now and say, well I am sorry, this is what was approved." Commissioner McGinnis asked, "I want to know what your plan is for how you are going to do your display." Mayor Bush added, "They want to see what the store is going to look like with your name on it, etcetera." Commissioner McLeod spoke of building materials and stated, "I think the 'Split Faced' is fme, but I do think the top of that 'Split Faced' should not necessarily just be a poured top lintel - I think you need to put a cap on top of that wall. I think that would dress that wall up and be something more of what Commissioner Miller may be looking for. I think that would give it a - little richer ending to the' Split Faced', than what you are doing in the poured lintel. So, if we do go with the 'Split Faced' Commissioners, I would recommend that we see that a cap is placed on top - a triangular cap feature on top of this wall." Mr. Wood addressed the "Acorn" lighting and stated, "I don't think we will have a whole lot of problem with that because we are probably talking about four (4)..." Mayor Bush added, "... So you would agree to that, if that is the case?" Mr. Wood responded, "Yes." CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - SEPTEMBER 8, 2003 PAGE 14 OF 30 Mayor Bush then asked Mr. Wood about "The brick wall on the east side." Mr. Wood responded, "What we would like to do is put the cap on the wall like the Commissioner suggested - make it look a little nicer instead of putting just the poured lintel on the top, which will dress it up. It matches the building - from the maintenance standpoint. At the same time they do their maintenance on the building, they can do the same maintenance on the walls at the same time. If it's necessary to do increased maintenance on the wall we will make sure that happens." Next, Deputy Mayor Miller referred to the artist's rendering, and commented on the landscaping as presented, and stated, "I would like to see these trees actually look like that when this store opens." "I WOULD MAKE A MOTION THAT WE DO APPROVE THE SITE PLAN WITH THE FOLLOWING CHANGES: CHANGE - THE COLOR OF THE SHINGLES TO BE APPROVED AT A LATER DATE, TO COME BACK THROUGH WITH STAFF, AND THE TOP OF THE LIGHTS TO BE CHANGED TO 'ACORN' TYPE LIGHTING... Commissioner Blake returned to the Commission Chambers at 8:25 p.m. ...AND THAT THE WALL BE THE 'SPLIT FACED' WITH - A TRIANGULAR CAP ON THE EAST WALL AND THAT THAT CAP NOT BE PAINTED THE SAME COLOR AS THE REST OF THAT WALL, BUT TO BLEND, EITHER TO BE A SAND CONCRETE OR TO BLEND WITH THE BUILDING, TO GIVE SOME DIFFERENCE OF THE TONES." COMMISSIONER BLAKE INQUIRED, "IS THE COMMISSIONER MAKING A MOTION TO APPROVE THE SITE PLAN SUBJECT TO THOSE ARCHITECTURAL DETAILS?" COMMISSIONER McLEOD STATED, "THAT IS CORRECT." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER McLEOD. COMMISSIONER McLEOD CONTINUED WITH HIS MOTION AND SAID, "THEY WILL HA VE LARGER CALIPER TREES." COMMISSIONER McLEOD THEN ADDED TO HIS MOTION "THAT THE DEVELOPER GET WITH OUR CITY ARBORIST TO BE ABLE TO PUT IN 'PREFERRED' TWO (2) LARGER TREES THAT THE ARBORIST WOULD AGREE UPON FOR THAT AREA." SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BLAKE. DISCUSSION. "I WOULD LIKE TO AMEND THE MOTION TO INCLUDE A BRICK WALL OR WHATEVER THE WALL IS ON THE EAST SIDE THAT EXTENDS AROUND ON THE NORTH SIDE - OF THE SAME MATERIAL..." AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER. MAYOR BUSH ADDED, "...AS THE EAST." MOTION DIED FOR LACK OF A SECOND. CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - SEPTEMBER 8, 2003 PAGE 15 OF 30 MANAGER McLEMORE SAID, "JUST A CLARIFICATION, I AM ASSUMING, THAT AS LONG AS THESE THINGS ARE DONE, THIS DOESN'T HAVE TO COME BACK TO THE COMMISSION?" MAYOR BUSH STATED, "I BELIEVE NOT FOR THE SITE PLAN, BUT I THINK THE COMMISSION WOULD CONTINUALLY WANT TO SEE WHAT THE ARCHITECTURAL LOOK OF THE BUILDING IS." COMMISSIONER McGINNIS STATED, "I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT." DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER SAID, "SO WOULD I." COMMISSIONER McLEOD ADDED, "I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT ALSO." VOTE: COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ: NAY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE DEPUTY MAYOR MILLER: AYE MOTION CARRIED. REGULAR 21. C. Office Of The City Manager Requesting The Commission To Adopt Resolution Number 2003-41 Supporting The Levy Of One Penny Of Local Option Gas Taxes By The Seminole County Commission To Fund ADA Paratransit Services Beginning FY05 And Forward, And To Consider A Second Request Of Seminole County To Fund A $45,196.00 Share Of ADA Paratransit Service For FY04. Manager McLemore spoke on this Agenda Item. Mr. Kevin Grace, Seminole County Manager, 1101 East First Street, Sanford, Florida: addressed the City Commission. With discussion, Mayor Bush stated, "I just want to point out to the Commission that I was not at the Meeting where the Mayors and the Managers approved this." Manager McLemore then said to the City Commission, "If you approve this, that it is done contingent to the - County Commission adopting the one (1) penny, and I think you should make that as a condition." Deputy Mayor Miller stated, "I would like to Table the second part of this, and have a Meeting with the County, and Mr. Grace can be there, whoever else wants to be there." Deputy Mayor Miller added, "I would like to have a Meeting with the County, as soon as they want to hold it with whichever Commissioners want to go, and I would like to find out what exactly is going on." ATTACHMENT C ~~- ~, 5 90'00'00" E 299.94' (F) - 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.5 0.7 0.6 0.2 0.1 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0,6 M'---':O,8 h6 1.4 14 0.i' 0.6 0.\ O:@ 0.0 0.1 0.5 1.4 2.7 1.8 1.3 0.7 0.4 0.2 0.1 0.0 .0.0 5.9 2.8 2.1 1.4 1.1 0.6 0.3 0.1 .0.0 65' RESTROOM DOOR 0.1 0.0 4.6 3.3 2.5 . .6 2l-.:-.0.0--- ~O><cr u.'" Ex~.L 4.6 3.3 2.5 1.2 0.90.60.3 .0.0 0.0 1.0 4.4 5.9 2.8 2.1 1.4 1.1 0.8\ 0.0 0.0 .0.0 - 0.0 0.8 1.4 2.7 1.8 1.3 0.7 0.9 0.5 0.2 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.6 1.0 1.4 1.2 0.7 0.3 0.2 0.1\ 0.1 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.6 1.0 0.8 0.6 0.5 0.3 0.1\ 0.0 0.0 . 0.0 0.1 0.3 0.1 0.0 0.( DOLLAR GENERAL 8125 SQ. 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These trees are available in 200 gallon size containers with heights averaging 18 to 20 feet with a minimum spread of 8 feet and a trunk caliper of at least 4 3/4 inches. These are a Flo~~da Grade and Standards #1. The plants described above are the same type and sizes as the latest trees that have been installed at the fountain in the Town Center. I must emphasize that these trees are from "container" grown stock and NOT field grown or ball and burlap. There is a definite difference in the appearance and ability to adapt to the site after install- ation. If you need.to compare such, please visit the site at our Kash and Karry on S.R. 434. There appears to be adequate room for the installatillon on the front and side of the proposed Dollar General Store.