HomeMy WebLinkAbout2005 08 08 Consent Item 207- Regular Meeting Minutes July 11, 2005
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JULY 11,2005
The Regular Meeting of Monday, July 11, 2005 of the City Commission was called to
order by Mayor John F. Bush at 6:31 p.m. in the Commission Chambers of the Municipal
Building (City Hall, 1126 East State Road 434, Winter Springs, Florida 32708).
ROLL CALL:
Mayor John F. Bush, present
Deputy Mayor Michael S. Blake, present
Commissioner Robert S. Miller, present
Commissioner Donald A. Gilmore, present
Commissioner Sally McGinnis, present
Commissioner Joanne M. Krebs, present
City Manager Ronald W. McLemore, absent
Public Works/Utility Department Director, Kipton D. Lockcuff, P.E., present
City Attorney Anthony A. Garganese, present
The Pledge of Allegiance followed a moment of silence.
PUBLIC INPUT
Ms. Kelly Thompson Post Office Box 195221, Winter Springs, Florida: as Assistant
Coach for the Babe Ruth 8-Under Girls All Star Team; Ms. Thompson introduced
members of the Team; commented that the team was the District Runner-up; and noted
she wanted to present the City with a plaque.
Ms. Deloris Lowe, Post Office Box 195221, Winter Springs, Florida: commented that the
team was the District Champion; introduced members of the Babe Ruth 10-Under Girls
All Star Team; and wanted to present the City with the winning plaque.
Ms. Barbara Creekmore. Post Office Box 195221, Winter Springs, Florida: speaking on
behalf of the Babe Ruth 12-Under Girls All Star Team, Ms. Creekmore presented the
City with a signed picture; and commented that the team came in second place.
Mr. Bill Sumner, 125 Lisa Loop, Winter Springs, Florida: representing the 10-Under
Boys All Star Team, Mr. Sumner introduced team members and presented the City with a
signed bat, a signed game ball, and a plaque with their pictures and name; and
commented that the team finished third (3rd) in the State.
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Mr. Bill Manooch, 1515 South Greenleaf Court, Winter Springs, Florida: as the
President of Winter Springs Babe Ruth, Mr. Manooch thanked the City's Parks and
Recreation Department, Mr. Chuck Pula, Parks and Recreation Department Director, Mr.
Chris Caldwell, Athletic Supervisor, Parks and Recreation Department; and spoke on
growth, playing fields; and thanked the City Commission for their assistance.
Mayor Bush commented, "We will see if these plaques can get a prominent place out in
the lobby."
Mr. Art Gallo, 199 Nandina Terrace, Winter Springs, Florida: representing the
Seminole Lacrosse League, Mr. Gallo introduced some players; thanked the City's Parks
and Recreation Department and especially Mr. Chris Caldwell, Athletics Supervisor,
Parks and Recreation Department; gave some background information on the game of
Lacrosse; and presented a picture frame with a team jersey inside of it.
Mr. Bill Hollenback, 2804 Cornerstone Court, Apopka, Florida: as the President of the
Winter Springs Soccer Club, Mr. Hollenback commented that the team plays as the
"Florida Thunder"; noted that the 15-Under Girl's team won the President's Cup this
year; and handed out t-shirts to the Mayor and City Commission.
Brief discussion.
AWARDS AND PRESENTATIONS
AWARDS AND PRESENTATIONS
100. Office Of The City Manager
Presentation Of Employee Recognition Awards To City Of Winter Springs
Employees.
With the assistance of the City Commission, Mayor Bush presented Employee
Recognition Awards to the following City of Winter Springs Employees:
5 Years Of Service:
Mr. Daniel Accomando, Police Department; Mr. Greg Bishop, Public Works
Department; Mr. Brad Chikowski, Fire Department; Mr. Richard Domenech, Utility
Department; Mr. Bill Griffin, Public Works Department; Mr. John Maxwell, Police
Department; Mr. Michael Summers, Fire Department; Mr. Dale Thrush, Police
Department; Mr. Matthew Tracht, Police Department; and Mr. Keith Whitmore, Police
Department.
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10 Years Of Service:
Ms. Patricia Best, Finance Department; Mr. Kenneth Frein, Police Department; Mr.
Terri Guerra, Police Department; Mr. Alan Hill, Public Works Department; and Ms.
Zynka Perez, Public Works Department.
15 Years Of Service:
Mr. Steve Baggs, Utility Department; Ms. Sylvia Denson, Customer Service Division,
Community Development Department; Mr. Fred Gold, Police Department; Mr. Bill
Morris, Utility Department; Mr. Miquel Sanchez, Utility Department; Mr. Michael
Scheraldi, Building Division, Community Development Department; and Mr. Gregg
Tischler, Police Department.
20 Years Of Service:
Mr. Richard Brookover, Public Works Department.
Mayor Bush then stated, "I do want to say to all of the employees - the ones who have
received awards and those who of course maybe didn't get a five (5), ten (10) or fifteen
(15) - that we do appreciate your efforts and your work and - you have done a great job
making Winter Springs a better place to live and we are all very proud of you."
Mayor Bush called a Recess at 7:04 p.m.
The Meeting reconvened at 7:19 p.m.
AWARDS AND PRESENTATIONS
101. Office Of The Mayor
July Parks And Recreation Month.
Mayor Bush stated, "I want to read this Proclamation and it will be officially in your
packet the next time around for approval, but I will read it tonight." Mayor Bush then
read a Proclamation proclaiming "Parks and Recreation Month" and added, "Thanks to
all of you - Chuck [Pula] and to all your people who have done such a great job. We do
appreciate it."
.:. .:. AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING PUBLIC INPUT WAS AGAIN
HANDLED, AS DOCUMENTED. .:..:.
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PUBLIC INPUT
Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of the Meeting.
Nobody spoke.
Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Meeting.
Regarding this Agenda, Mayor Bush remarked, "Item '504' has been pulled - it will be
probably on your Agenda for the second Meeting in August."
.:..:. AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS
ARE DOCUMENTED IN THE ORDER DISCUSSED. .:..:.
CONSENT AGENDA
CONSENT
200. Parks And Recreation Department
Requesting The City Commission's Approval To Apply For A Seminole Cultural
Arts Council Grant For Two (2) Philharmonic Orchestra Performances And
Authorize The City Manager To Apply For This Grant On Behalf Of The City Of
Winter Springs.
There was no discussion on this Agenda Item.
CONSENT
201. Information Services Department
Requests Authorization To Dispose Of Surplus Assets According To The Attached
Disposition Sheets.
Ms. Joanne Dalka, Director, Information Services Department presented this Agenda
Item.
Commissioner Robert S. Miller mentioned serial numbers on City furniture and stated, "I
thought we were having an Audit at one time and I thought that we were going to put
asset numbers on all furniture items like swivel chairs - for accountability purposes?"
Ms. Dalka stated, "Fixed Assets are handled by Finance, so I can't really answer that
question."
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Commissioner Miller added, "Maybe the City Manager will bring that back next time - I
am just curious, as I remember we had a discussion on this, about six (6) years ago
maybe, and all of these things were going to have some kind of an identifier on them and
it was required by - I think we were - trying to get some kind of a recognition and one of
the things was accountability of - assets of the City. As I recall, seven hundred and fifty
[dollars] ($750.00) was not the number, it was something less than that."
With further discussion, Deputy Mayor Michael S. Blake stated, "Commissioner Miller is
right. I think there was a time when we did not tag anything; and through - an Audit
process, a Policy was brought to the Committee and we put a number in there. But, seven
[hundred] fifty [dollars] ($750.00) actually is a pretty low number." Deputy Mayor
Blake added, "You could probably bring it back."
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Mayor Bush stated, "Commissioner Miller has asked that this be back, that the Manager
address this at our next Meeting. Is everybody okay with that?" Commissioner Miller
stated, "I would like for the Clerk to go back through the Records and see if we can find a
record of that discussion. It was about seven (7) years ago or thereabouts." In trying to
determine when this discussion took place, Mayor Bush said to Commissioner Miller,
"Could you think about when - to help the Clerk narrow the search down?"
Commissioner Miller added, "I would just like to know how it turned out."
CONSENT
202. Parks And Recreation Department
Requesting The City Commission To Authorize The City Manager To Execute The
City Of Winter Springs Recreation Program Agreement With The Winter Springs
Youth Sports Organization.
This Agenda Item was not discussed.
CONSENT
203. Parks And Recreation Department
Requesting The City Commission To Authorize The City Manager To Execute The
City Of Winter Springs Recreation Program Agreement With The Winter Springs
Grizzlies (Football).
No discussion.
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CONSENT
204. Parks And Recreation Department
Requesting The City Commission To Authorize The City Manager To Execute The
City Of Winter Springs Recreation Program Agreement With The Winter Springs
Basketball League.
There was no discussion on this Agenda Item.
CONSENT
205. Parks And Recreation Department
Requesting The City Commission To Authorize The City Manager To Execute The
City Of Winter Springs Recreation Program Agreement With The Winter Springs
Football Club, Inc., An Affiliate Of Central Florida United Soccer Club.
No discussion.
CONSENT
206. Parks And Recreation Department
Requesting The City Commission To Authorize The City Manager To Execute The
City Of Winter Springs Recreation Program Agreement With US Lacrosse A.K.A.
Seminole Lacrosse Club.
There was no discussion.
CONSENT
207. Office Of The Mayor
Requests That The City Commission Review Proposed Resolution 2005-27 Related
To The City's Support Of A Library Within The City Of Winter Springs' City
Limits.
This Agenda Item was not discussed.
CONSENT
208. Parks And Recreation Department
Requesting Approval To Enter Into A Contractual Agreement With All-Rite Fence
Company To. Install Four (4) Baseball Practice Field Backstops On The Central
Winds Park Expansion.
With discussion on numbers of companies who bid for jobs, Mr. Chuck Pula, Director,
Parks and Recreation Department spoke on this Agenda Item. Deputy Mayor Blake
discussed bid requirements with City Attorney Anthony A. Garganese.
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Deputy Mayor Blake stated, "I understand how this one came in, and - perhaps we were
fortunate this time, but I would be concerned overall, and this isn't just Parks. I mean in
anything that we buy throughout the City, and we spend a lot of money each year on
many different things - if our purchasing process is keeping truly qualified bidders out of
the process, then we are not getting as competitive bids as we should be getting." Mayor
Bush noted, "I think that would be - something that probably ought to be researched a
little bit. I think that is a good point."
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Attorney Garganese stated, "The City - has its own Bid Specifications and procedures
that we could look at maybe streamlining for the Bidders." Mayor Bush asked, "Chuck
[Pula], do you think, in your experience, do you think that what Commissioner Blake has
brought up has in fact caused people not to Bid because ofthe paperwork involved?" Mr.
Pula stated, "I think it does when you get under a certain amount."
Mayor Bush asked of Mr. Kipton D. Lockcuff, P.E., Director, Public Works/Utility
Department, "Would you make sure Mr. [Ronald W.] McLemore is aware of this
particular discussion and let him maybe come back at a future Meeting with his
recommendation?" Mr. Lockcuff added, "We could put together just a little outline of
what we currently do, what we require Perfonnance Bonds for."
CONSENT
209. Parks And Recreation Department
Requesting The City Commission To Authorize The City Manager To Execute The
City Of Winter Springs Recreation Program Agreement With The Winter Springs
Soccer Club D.B.A. Florida Thunder.
No discussion.
CONSENT
211. Office Of The City Clerk
Requesting Approval Of The July 5, 2005 Special City Commission Meeting
Minutes.
This Agenda Item was not discussed.
.:..:. AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING CONSENT AGENDA WAS
AGAIN DISCUSSED PRIOR TO THE VOTE ON THE ENTIRE CONSENT
AGENDA. .:. .:.
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CONSENT AGENDA
CONSENT
201. Information Services Department
Requests Authorization To Dispose Of Surplus Assets According To The Attached
Disposition Sheets.
Furthermore, regarding Agenda Item "201", Commissioner Joanne M. Krebs stated, "We
might want to have Consensus for the Clerk's office. I am okay with it." Commissioner
Sally McGinnis stated, "Yes." Commissioner Donald A. Gilmore stated, "I will go with
it - we can spend an awful lot of time and money tagging small values." Deputy Mayor
Blake stated, "No." Commissioner Miller added, "This is really about what - it was that
we decided, and if we did decide it, what did we decide; because if it is not being
followed anymore, then I would like to know why. Because it was important at the time
that we get this - financial recognition and one of the things that their Audit of the City
was that your accountability for your Assets is very sloppy." There was a Consensus for
the Office of the City Clerk to research this.
CONSENT
210. Office Of The City Clerk
Requesting Approval Of The June 27, 2005 Regular City Commission Meeting
Minutes.
Brief discussion.
Mayor Bush stated, "Any others on the Consent Agenda, Commissioners? Okay, can we
have a Motion?"
"MOTION TO APPROVE." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER KREBS. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
DEPUTYMAYORBLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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INFORMATIONAL AGENDA
INFORMATIONAL
300. Community Development Department
Advising The City Commission Of The Status Of Various Current Planning
Projects.
Brief discussion.
"MOTION TO APPROVE THE INFORMATIONAL [AGENDA]." MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER MILLER. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER KREBS.
DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
DEPUTYMAYORBLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
PUBLIC HEARINGS AGENDA
PUBLIC HEARINGS
400. Office Of The City Attorney
Presents Ordinance Number 2005-16 For First Reading. The Ordinance Proposes A
Noise Ordinance That Regulates Sound Levels That Will Be Deemed To Constitute
A Public Nuisance.
Mayor Bush stated, "Can we have a Motion to read by 'Title' only."
"SO MOVED." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MILLER. SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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Attorney Garganese read the Ordinance by "Title" only and indicated that, "Dr. Roger
Wayson is here this evening to talk about the study that he conducted on behalf of the
City."
Dr. Roger L. Wayson, P.E., 857 Oak Drive, Oviedo, Florida: as Associate Professor,
University of Central Florida who is the director of the Community Noise Lab, Dr.
Wayson commented on the report and Ordinance provided for the City Commission's
review. Discussion.
Captain Glenn Tolleson, Police Department addressed questions related to this Agenda
Item.
Discussion ensued on noise during weekends, to which Commissioner Gilmore stated,
"Do you want to limit, be so limiting of noise on weekends?" Dr. Wayson noted, "By
domestic power tool, my meaning was, perhaps Mr. Garganese needs to change the
words, but I meant a homeowner doing something versus a construction operation."
Attorney Garganese stated, "It's intended to apply - to the weekend home improvement
guy and one way to just - simplify it is just have one standard, if that's what you want,
regardless ofthe tools."
Commissioner Gilmore stated, "My concern is that the average homeowner using those
tools is going to be working on the weekends - and we are saying - you cannot do that
now because you are making noise, but they can do it Monday through Friday." With
further discussion, Commissioner Gilmore noted, "I think it has to go back to Anthony
[Garganese] to re-Iook at that issue." Attorney Garganese stated, "Okay." Commissioner
McGinnis stated, "Absolutely."
Regarding Motorcycles and mufflers, Commissioner Gilmore noted items ill and (k) in
the Ordinance, and commented, "One of the things that I wanted to see in this Noise
Ordinance was something to stop it." Furthermore, Commissioner Gilmore said, "This
has nothing to do with sound. This is strictly modifying a muffler or removing a
muffler." Commissioner Gilmore added, "I want to know that you can enforce that rule
right there, under - ill and.Q0 and you do not have to measure sound to do it." Captain
Tolleson stated, "That would be correct - we can do 00 because obviously ifit's missing
or it's been punched out, we could tell that."
Further discussion.
Page 14 was referenced next to which Commissioner Gilmore stated, "Defines
procedures, not sound levels." Dr. Wayson stated, "That would appear to be a typo."
Commissioner Gilmore added, "I want to see a sound Ordinance, but I want to see one
that you can work with and enforce."
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With discussion, Commissioner Miller stated, "I would like to see this enforceable for
motorcycles, boom boxes, and cars primarily - and on residential streets."
Commissioner Krebs commented on item (sU on page 9 and remarked, "I don't know if
'Owning' is the Violation. 1 think the Violation is the noise so 1 don't like that wording
because an African Grey which a lot of people own those things are loud as anything. To
make it illegal to own one, that's not fair." Further discussion.
Commissioner Gilmore stated, "I would like to see this come back with some better
language in ill and Q0 on page 10. . . Commissioner Krebs added, "And (sU"...
Commissioner Gilmore continued, ".. . Defining this business about modifying muffiers
on motorcycles and cars."
Discussion.
Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
No one spoke.
Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
"MOTION TO MOVE TO A SECOND READING WITH THE COMMENTS OF
THE COMMISSION REGARDING THE TYPES OF EQUIPMENT
MODIFICATIONS..." MAYOR BUSH STATED, "...ITEM ill, ITEM !!il AND
COMMISSIONER KREBS - ITEM ~." COMMISSIONER MILLER
CONTINUED, "TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AND SEE WHETHER OR NOT
THAT IS REALLY APPROPRIATE - SOME OF THE EQUIPMENT -
DOMESTIC - EQUIPMENT." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MILLER.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER GILMORE. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Commissioner McGinnis stated, "There is - determination of fines, and duration of fines.
When does that get determined?" Attorney Garganese stated, "That is something that is
going to be inputted for Second and Final Reading." With discussion, Attorney
Garganese added, "We could do an 'Incremental Step' approach." Commissioner
McGinnis stated, "I like that."
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In terms of warning notices and citations being issued, Commissioner Krebs added,
"Since we are going to something like this, we also need to really communicate well to
all the citizens out here in Winter Springs and let them know what to expect."
Attorney Garganese stated, "I will just go ahead and draft an 'Incremental Penalty
Provision' . So much for a First Violation, so much for a Second. And, then anything
above that - would be the maximum permitted by law which is five hundred dollars
($500.00)."
PUBLIC HEARINGS
401. Office Of City Commissioner Michael S. Blake
Requesting The [City] Commission To Reconsider Public Hearing Agenda Item
'405' Of The June 13,2005 Meeting.
Mr. Randy Stevenson, ASLA, Director, Community Development Department presented
this Agenda Item.
Discussion.
Regarding the size of the balconies on Building 19 at the Town Center, Commissioner
Krebs stated, "I really do prefer the nine inch (9'). I think it looks nice." Commissioner
McGinnis stated, "I think the nine inch (9') is more subtle and I like it."
Further discussion.
Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
No one spoke.
Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
"I MAKE A MOTION THAT THE COMMISSION REVISE THEIR DECISION
OF THE - JUNE 12TH, JUNE 13TH [2005] MEETING AND GO TO THE NINE
INCH (91 BALCONY PROJECTION REQUIREMENT." MOTION BY DEPUTY
MAYOR BLAKE. MAYOR BUSH NOTED, "THE MOTION IS FOR THE NINE
INCH (91 BALCONY REQUIREMENT." SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER
McGINNIS. DISCUSSION.
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VOTE:
COMMMISSIONERGILMORE: NAY
COMMISSIONER MILLER: NAY
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
DEPUTYMAYORBLAKE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
402. Community Development Department - Planning Division
Requests The Commission Hold A Public Hearing For Second Reading/Adoption Of
Ordinance 2005-24 Which Revises The "Town Center" Zoning District's Sign age
Regulations.
Attorney Garganese read Ordinance 2005-24 by "Title" only.
Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
No one spoke.
Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
Mr. Stevenson introduced this Agenda Item and stated, "In the meantime obviously, no
'Wayfinding' signs will be approved, however we could go forward and allow the 'Menu
Boards', the 'Fin' signs, and the 'Marquee' signs. So with that having been said, we
would encourage. you to move forward with the Second Reading and Adoption of this
Ordinance with the understanding or with the conditions Staff will be back before you
probably as early as August. We would hope to do it in August; with a set of details and
specifications which would guide us as we considered and brought before you any
'Wayfinding' signage."
"MOVE TO APPROVE ORDINANCE 2005-24." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER
McGINNIS. SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
DEPUTYMAYORBLAKE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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PUBLIC HEARINGS
403. Office Of The City Attorney
Requests That The City Commission Consider Ordinance 2005-26 On First
Reading. The Ordinance Revises Section 2-57. To Make It Gender Neutral.
Mayor Bush stated, "Can I have a Motion to read by 'Title' only?"
"SO MOVED." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MILLER. SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
DEPUTYMAYORBLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Attorney Garganese read Ordinance 2005-26 by "Title" only.
Commissioner Miller stated regarding "Gender" references in the Ordinances, "I think we
need to have a complete overhaul of our - Ordinances" and suggested such words of
concern as "Manhole covers", "Man-made", "Man hours", 'Manpower", and
"Manhandled" be changed. Mayor Bush noted, "I think Commissioner Miller has a good
point. "
Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
No one spoke.
Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
Discussion.
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With further discussion, Deputy Mayor Blake suggested, absolutely we ought to either
pass an Ordinance or a Resolution that allows City staff as time goes on and permits, or
as an item comes up to make these scrivener changes if you will in our Ordinances so that
they are gender neutral. Ifwe have got 'Chairman', it ought to be 'Chairperson'."
"MOTION TO MOVE TO A SECOND READING." MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER MILLER. MAYOR BUSH STATED, "SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER BLAKE." DISCUSSION.
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VOTE:
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
DEPUTYMAYORBLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
404. Public Works Department
Requests The City Commission Adopt On Second Reading Ordinance 2005-18
Providing For Allowing On-Street Parking By Resolution.
Attorney Garganese read Ordinance 2005-18 by "Title" only.
Brief discussion.
Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
No one spoke.
Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
With discussion, Commissioner Krebs said to Attorney Garganese, "I don't think this
totally addresses some of the issues that we still have and 1 don't know if this is where we
address it, or if we amend it later, or what? And, that would be those times where people
have parties throughout the year. There might be a Bible Study going; people are parked
on the street and complaints come in. And, the fact ofthe matter is there is no parking on
the street. So, my question would be, is there anything that we can legislate as the
Commission to allow for those occasions where similar, 1 don't know - whether you
would call getting a permit or notifying the Police, letting them know what is going on
and only a certain amount of hours - 1 do not want to say authorized because 1 do not
know if that is the right even term to use. But, giving them some type of power to handle
those situations?"
Attorney Garganese stated, "We could set up some sort of permitting scheme for those
types of situations if the Commission wanted to consider that, because it probably would
occur very frequently in the City. It may become something the Commission may want
to consider delegating to the Police Chief, where the Police Chief could permit that on a
temporary basis for such things as short-term parties." Mayor Bush stated, "Like 'Yard
Sales' for instance, create on-street parking."
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Furthermore, Attorney Garganese stated, "If you want to consider delegating that, I can
bring back a different type of Ordinance - to allow the Police Chief to do that or the
Police Department and the Commission could set parameters." Mayor Bush asked, "I
agree with Commissioner Krebs, I think that is a great idea. Do we have a Consensus
that this could be modified - modify this Ordinance Anthony [Garganese], or create
another one?" Attorney Garganese stated, "I would do a separate Ordinance." Mayor
Bush added, "Everybody in agreement?" Commissioner McGinnis stated, "Yes." No
objections were noted.
"I MOVE WE ADOPT ORDINANCE 2005-18 AS AMENDED." MOTION BY
DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MILLER.
DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
DEPUTYMAYORBLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Mayor Bush stated, "And, the Consensus was that Anthony [Garganese] will bring back
something to address the issue that Commissioner Krebs brought up about temporary..."
Commissioner McGinnis asked, ".. .Do things like this go. on our Web site - Ordinances
like this?" Mayor Bush added, "It could be also in the Newsletter. Justin [Edwards
WeblMultiMedia Technician, Information Services Department], maybe you could take a
look at that the next time we put the Newsletter out."
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500. Community Development Department - Planning Division
Requests That The City Commission Consider And Approve The Proposed Binding
Development Agreement Between The City Of Winter Springs And Miller School
Supply.
Mr. Baker presented his opening remarks related to this Agenda Item.
Mr. David Wright, 790 Monroe Road, Sanford Florida: commented on the signage
dimensions.
Discussion.
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"MOVE FOR APPROVAL." MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER GILMORE. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE: AYE
COMMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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501. Office Of The City Manager
Requesting That The City Commission Approve Resolution Number 2005-24,
Computing The Proposed Millage Rate For Fiscal Year 2005-2006, Establishing The
Rolled-Back Rate And Setting The Date, Time, And Place Of A Public Hearing To
Consider The Proposed Millage Rate And Tentative Budget For Fiscal Year 2005-
2006.
Ms. Michelle Greco, Director, Finance Department presented this Agenda Item.
With discussion, Commissioner Miller discussed expanding the Police Department and
spoke for the Record on what the Commission considers. Discussion.
"I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE SET THE TENTATIVE
MILL[AGE] RATE." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MILLER.
MS. GRECO SPOKE FOR THE RECORD REGARDING "VOTED DEBT
SERVICE".
COMMISSIONER MILLER ADDED, "I WILL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE
SET THE RATE AT 8.0 MILLS." SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE.
DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMMISSIONER GILMORE: NAY
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: NAY
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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"I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THE SECOND MOTION FOR THE VOTED DEBT
SERVICE TO SET THAT MILLAGE RATE AT .1374 MILLS." MOTION BY
DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MILLER.
DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
DEPUTYMAYORBLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Discussion ensued regarding recommendation of a Budget Hearing to be held on
September 12, 2005 at 6:30 p.m.
"I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE RESOLUTION
2005-24 INCORPORTING THE TWO (2) MILLAGE AMENDMENTS THAT WE
MADE PREVIOUSLY." MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE. SECONDED
BY COMMISSIONER KREBS. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
DEPUTYMAYORBLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Discussion ensued regarding additional Budget Workshops. Mayor Bush added, "The 18t
[of August 2005] and 15th [August 2005]?" Commissioner McGinnis stated, "That is
fine." Commissioner Miller stated, "That is fine." Deputy Mayor Blake stated, "Yes."
Commissioner Krebs stated, "I am good for that." Mayor Bush summarized, "Everybody
is in agreement - the 1 8t [August 2005] and the 15th [August 2005] - 6:30 [p.m.]
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502. Community Development Department - Planning Division
Requests The [City] Commission Consider A Fin Sign For MacDonald's Eye Care
Located In The Town Center (In The Medical Building Immediately To The West
Of City Hall).
Mr. Stevenson presented this Agenda Item.
Discussion ensued regarding the proposal for a ruby red neon sign.
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Deputy Mayor Blake stated, "I am not in favor of the neon." Commissioner Krebs added,
"I am not in favor of the neon either, and 1 don't think 1 like that sign there where it is.
And 1 do think it does set precedence. How do you say 'No' to some and 'Yes' to others?
1 know it is a case-by-case basis." Discussion.
Ms. Robin MacDonald, 1122 East State Road, Winter Springs, Florida: commented that
they are open to ideas.
"MOTION THAT WE DENY THE REQUEST." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER
MILLER. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. DISCUSSION.
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DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE STATED, "I DO HAVE SOME MORE QUESTIONS
ABOUT IT THOUGH. THE SIZE IS ONE THING. IT FEELS BIG, MAYBE IT
ISN'T, BUT IT SEEMS AS THOUGH - THE HEIGHT IS ANOTHER ISSUE. I
THINK PUTTING IT WAY UP THERE, YOU ARE ALMOST NOW STARTING
TO GET TOWARDS BILLBOARD STATUS. AND SO I QUESTION THAT A
BIT. I THINK - I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR MORE ABOUT IT OR SEE
PERHAPS A BETTER MOCK-UP OF WHERE THE SIGN WOULD BE ON THE
BUILDING, POSSIBLY EVEN HAVE THEM PUT UP A MOCK-UP ON THE
BUILDING, WHERE THEY WOULD LIKE IT TO BE. TAKE SOME PHOTOS
OR ALLOW US - NOTIFY US SO WE CAN GO BY AND ACTUALLY SEE IT
ON THE BUILDING."
COMMISSIONER GILMORE SUGGESTED, "WHAT IS BOTHERING ME
HERE IS THAT THE PURPOSE OF THIS 'FIN' SIGN IS TO ATTRACT
ATTENTION ON [STATE ROAD) 434. WHEN THE CITY MANAGER AND
EVERYBODY ELSE TELLS US - WELL, REALLY WE WANT PEOPLE
WALKING, THAT IS OUR REAL INTEREST IN HERE, WE ARE OUT TO GET
PEOPLE WALKING AND PEOPLE WALKING ARE NOT GOING SEE THE
'FIN' SIGN BECAUSE OF AWNINGS AND OTHER THINGS - THAT THE 'FIN'
SIGN IN MY OPINION SHOULD BE MORE ADDRESSED TO THE PEOPLE
THAT ARE WALKING ON THE STREET AND NOT TO THE PEOPLE ON
[STATE ROAD) 434 DRIVING BY."
COMMISSIONER MILLER MADE A COMMENT FOR THE RECORD
REFERENCING DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE'S BILLBOARD COMMENT.
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THEN, COMMISSIONER GILMORE ADDED, "I JUST HAVE CONCERNS
ABOUT THEM. I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH SMALL 'FIN' SIGNS THAT
ARE IDENTIFYING THE BUILDING FOR THE PEOPLE WALKING AS WE
SEE THESE RIGHT HERE, BUT WHEN WE START GOING OUT AND
BUILDING THEM TO BE SEEN OUT ON THE HIGHWAY, I HAVE A FEAR
THAT THAT IS GETTING OUT OF WHAT THE WHOLE PURPOSE WAS IN
THE TOWN CENTER."
"I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A REPLACEMENT MOTION TO HAVE THE
APPLICANT WORK WITH STAFF TO TAKE OUR COMMENTS INTO
CONSIDERATION AND BRING BACK A REVISED PLAN." MOTION BY
DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE. MAYOR BUSH STATED, "SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS." DISCUSSION.
COMMISSIONER MILLER THEN REMARKED, "ALL THESE SIGNS UP
HERE THAT WE ARE SEEING - THEY WOULD DO JUST FINE ON THE
FIRST FLOOR OF THIS BUILDING; BUT TO GO UP ON THE SECOND
LEVEL, I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE MADE CLEAR TO THE APPLICANT
THAT NO MATTER WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE, IF WE ARE GOING TO PUT IT
UP ON THE SECOND LEVEL AS A 'FIN' SIGN, I DON'T THINK THAT IS A
GOOD IDEA."
DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE CLARIFIED HIS MOTION WAS "SENDING IT
BACK TO THE APPLICANT AND STAFF TO TAKE OUR COMMENTS INTO
CONSIDERATION AND TO BRING THAT NEW PROPOSAL BACK TO US."
VOTE:
COMMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
DEPUTYMAYORBLAKE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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503. Office Of The City Manager
Requesting The City Commission To Approve Resolution Number 2005-26
Requesting FDOT (Florida Department Of Transportation) To Support The State
Road 434 Traffic Circulation And Access Plan For The Town Center Urban Central
Business District Recommended By The City's Consultants.
Mr. Lockcuffbriefly spoke on this Agenda Item.
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"I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THIS - APPROVE ITEM 'S03'."
MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MILLER. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER
McGINNIS. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
DEPUTYMAYORBLAKE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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S04. Information Services Department
Requests That The City Commission Authorize The City Manager To Enter Into A
Contract With Marketing Resources, Inc., For Phase 2 Of The Municipal Wireless
System Project Which Will Include More In-Depth Research As Well As A Business
Plan As Deliverables.
As noted earlier in the meeting, Mayor Bush remarked, "Item '504' has been pulled - it
will be probably on your Agenda for the second Meeting in August."
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SOS. Office Of The City Clerk
Requesting The City Commission Consider Additional Information Regarding The
Proposed 200S Advisory Board And Committee Appreciation Dinner.
Discussion ensued on this Agenda Item, to which Commissioner McGinnis stated, "I
think it is important that this City support the Golf Course."
"I WILL MAKE THE MOTION THAT WE CHANGE TO TUSCA WILLA
COUNTRY CLUB - IT IS GOING TO BE A SUNDAY. IF YOU WANT IT ON
THE LABOR DAY WEEKEND, THAT WOULD BE SEPTEMBER 4TH."
MOTION BY COMMISSIONER KREBS.
MAYOR BUSH STATED, "OCTOBER 16 IS THE FIRST CHOICE
COMMISSIONERS?" DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE STATED, "YES." MAYOR
BUSH ADDED, "OCTOBER 2ND IS THE SECOND CHOICE." COMMISSIONER
KREBS STATED, "OKAY." COMMISSIONER GILMORE NOTED, "SOUNDS
GOOD." DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE REMARKED, "16TH, 2ND AND
SEPTEMBER 2STH." COMMISSIONER KREBS STATED, "OKAY."
SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE.
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MAYOR BUSH SUMMARIZED THE PROPOSED DATES AS, "SUNDAY,
OCTOBER 16TH IS THE FIRST CHOICE - OCTOBER 2ND IS THE SECOND
[CHOICE), AND SEPTEMBER 25TH IS THE THIRD CHOICE." DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
DEPUTYMAYORBLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: NAY
MOTION CARRIED.
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506. Community Development Department
Requests That The City Commission Consider Second Floor Wall Signage Proposed
For Both The East (Tuskawilla Road) Side And North (Tree Swallow Drive) Side Of
The IDC Calhoun (Doran) Town Center Building Number 2.
Mr. John Baker, AICP, Senior Planner, Community Development Department presented
this Agenda Item and said, "Since this sign does meet Code, we are in favor of it. It does
appear to be very tasteful. But, it is not what was depicted on this rendering that you
approved on March the 8th of 2004."
Discussion.
"I WILL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THIS." MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER MILLER. MAYOR BUSH STATED, "SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER GILMORE." DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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507. Office Of The City Clerk
Respectfully Requests That Commissioner Donald A. Gilmore Make A New [Three
(3) Year Term Of Office] Appointment To The Oak Forest Wall And Beautification
District Advisory Committee, To Commence In August 2005.
"I WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE LEO D. MARION, 1054 WINTER SPRINGS
BOULEVARD WHO IS RETIRED AND A RESIDENT OF THE AREA."
MOTION BY COMMISSIONER GILMORE. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER
McGINNIS. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
DEPUTYMAYORBLAKE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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508. Office Of The City Manager
Requesting The City Commission To Revise The Implementation Schedule For
Phase II T.L.B.D. (Tuscawilla Lighting And Beautification District) Street Lighting
And Signage Improvements.
Mr. Lockcuff spoke first on this Agenda Item. Discussion ensued on a sixty (60) day
delay.
Discussion.
Commissioner Miller spoke for the Record that the City is not to blame regarding the
delay.
"I WILL MAKE THE MOTION THAT WE DO NOT REVISE THE
SCHEDULE." MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE. SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER MILLER. DISCUSSION. MAYOR BUSH SUMMARIZED
THAT THE MOTION "IS TO DENY THE REQUEST - IN OTHER WORDS-
STAY WITH THE SCHEDULE AS APPROVED AT THE LAST MEETING."
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VOTE:
DEPUTYMAYORBLAKE: AYE
COMMMISSIONER GILMORE: NAY
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: NAY
MOTION CARRIED.
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509. Office Of The City Manager
Requesting The City Commission To Set A Workshop Date For Review Of The
Status Of The Town Center.
Discussion.
Tape 3/Side B
Mayor Bush suggested, "How does Tuesday, the 9th sit with everybody - August?"
Commissioner McGinnis stated, "Yes." Commissioner Miller stated, "Fine with me."
Mayor Bush noted again, "The 9th [August 2005] is okay with everybody?"
Commissioner Krebs stated, "Yes." Mayor Bush summarized that the Consensus for this
Workshop was "6:30 [p.m.] on the 9th [of August]."
REPORTS
REPORTS
600. Office Of The City Attorney - Anthony A. Garganese, Esquire
No Report.
REPORTS
601. Office Of The City Manager - Ronald W. McLemore
Mr. Lockcuff said he did not have any Report to present.
REPORTS
Office or The City Clerk - Andrea Lorenzo-Luaces
Deputy City Clerk Debbie Franklin also stated that she did not have a Report to give.
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REPORTS
603. Commission Seat Four - Sally McGinnis
Commissioner McGinnis spoke for the Record about the Winter Springs Golf Club and
stated, "This Golf Course is very important to the City. It is very important to the
community I live in. They are making an effort to ensure that it will in fact stay a golf
course. In fact, they had a community meeting."
Commissioner McGinnis then remarked, "We had a great 4th of July - the Staff just went
all out. It was wonderful."
REPORTS
604. Commission Seat Five - Joanne M. Krebs
Commissioner Krebs mentioned seeing PC Tablets in the Information Services
Department area of City Hall. Discussion ensued regarding Members of the City
Commission not using their assigned PC Tablets, to which Commissioner Miller said,
"They can use mine then until the [Internet] canopy comes." Mayor Bush stated, "Is
there anyone else who doesn't want to use their Laptop - I think you just let Joanne
[Dalka] know. I don't think the Commission has to decide. It is your individual decision
- let her know if you are not going to use it; and if she wants to use it somewhere else,
why of course she should."
In getting direction for Ms. Dalka regarding unused PC Tablets, Mayor Bush asked,
"Who is not going to use their Laptop? Commissioner Miller indicated he is not."
Deputy Mayor Blake stated, "Whoever isn't, needs to go see Joanne [Dalka] and sign off
on - for the rest of my Term, I am not going to use this; because the problem is she takes
it and gives it to somebody else to use. Then, all of a sudden the Commissioner shows up
- 'Where is my - computer. I need one now and there isn't one there because it has been
deployed elsewhere. So put it in writing." Mayor Bush asked the City Commission,
"Everybody in agreement with that?" Commissioner McGinnis stated, "Yes."
Commissioner Krebs stated, "Yes." Commissioner Gilmore stated, "Yes." No
objections were noted. Mayor Bush commented, "Okay, that will be the procedure."
Commissioner Krebs stated, "The Senior Barbeque [Lunch] will be on Sunday, July 24th_
this month." CommissioI}er Krebs added, "At the Senior Center."
Mayor Bush pointed out, "We have asked Andrea [Lorenzo-Luaces, City Clerk] to put
those on the Calendar for the Commission, so - everybody will be reminded of those."
Furthermore, Commissioner Krebs added, "At 1 :00 p.m."
Commissioner Krebs then spoke of Florida Statutes 162 regarding Appointments.
Attorney Garganese said to Commissioner Krebs, "I can talk to you after about that."
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REPORTS
605. Office Of The Mayor - John F. Bush
Mayor Bush stated, "I got a letter from the Groves - Larry Birch. I talked to Kip
[Lockcuf] about this just briefly. He sent some pictures. And, basically he is saying,
something needs to be done about - he calls it a disgrace to the City of Winter Springs - it
interferes with the Groves' business and referenced the "The Grove's dirt road entrance
of County Road 419."
Furthermore, Mayor Bush Stated, "I would like for the Commission to take some action
to look into this or at least look into it." Commissioner McGinnis stated, "Yes."
Discussion. Mayor Bush added, "I would like the Manager or Kip [Lockcuff] get with
the Attorney." Commissioner Miller stated, "It needs to be repaved." Mayor Bush
added, "I am asking for Consensus of the Commission to ask the Manager to look into
this and bring back some information about what can be done." Commissioner McGinnis
stated, "I agree." Deputy Mayor Blake stated, "I agree with that." Commissioner Krebs
stated, "Yes, I agree." No objections were noted.
Mayor Bush stated, "I would like to recommend to the Commission that we nominate our
Attorney, Manager, and Clerk as 'Attorney of the Year', 'Clerk of the Year', and - 'City
Manager of the Year' - for the Florida League of Cities." Commissioner McGinnis
stated, "Here, here." Mayor Bush noted, "Everybody in agreement with that?"
Commissioner Gilmore stated, "Sounds good." There were no objections from the City
Commission.
Discussion.
Mayor Bush then said to the City Commission, "If there is someone in town who would
be 'Citizen of the Year' that you could think of, I think we should certainly consider
that. "
Next, Mayor Bush stated, "I have talked to Andrea [Lorenzo-Luaces] about this and she
is ready to move on it if the Commission is in fact in agreement. She is waiting for
direction from the Commission."
Discussion ensued on the criteria needed for the nominations, to which Mayor Bush said,
"If the Commission feels that we need a classic presentation then we will get somebody
to do it." Additionally, Mayor Bush remarked, "I think we should go ahead and do it
anyway." Mayor Bush noted, "If everybody is in agreement, I will coordinate this with
Andrea [Lorenzo-Luaces, City Clerk]..." Commissioner McGinnis said, "...Okay..."
Mayor Bush continued, ".. .And we will see what we can do with it and take a look at it."
Mayor Bush added, "We will try it okay?" Commissioner McGinnis added, "Go ahead.
Good!" Mayor Bush noted, "So, we will move forward with that."
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Mayor Bush then thanked Mr. Stevenson for his help regarding a Tuscawilla resident and
an Occupational License situation.
Lastly, Mayor Bush mentioned he would be out of town for the remainder of July.
Commissioner McGinnis said she would be attending the Mayor and Manager
[Meeting]." Commissioner Krebs noted, "I am going to go to the Tri-County League [of
Cities]" event."
REPORTS
606. Commission Seat One - Robert S. Miller
Commissioner Miller presented some photographs related to Moss Road and noted, "I
asked the City Manager about two (2) years ago when an organization took over this
facility on Moss Road called 'Side By Side', I said, let us put garbage cans there and get
rid of the dumpsters. Nothing has happened." Commissioner Krebs asked where the
location was, to which Commissioner Miller responded, "It is on Moss Road, just south
of Moss Cove, on the left hand side of the road." Commissioner Miller then showed
photographs on similar sites near Lori Anne Lane.
With further discussion, Commissioner Miller stated, "I have asked for two (2) years now
for the City to get together with the owners of all this stuff, and build a fence here and put
the dumpster behind the fence."
Captain Glenn Tolleson discussed the Citations and Fines.
Discussion.
"MOTION TO EXTEND - FIFTEEN (15) MINUTES." MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER KREBS. SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE.
DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
DEPUTYMAYORBLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
With further discussion, Commissioner Miller remarked, "Two (2) years ago I - started
this discussion with Ron McLemore and I said, "We need to get rid of those dumpsters
and put in either roll-on things or put garbage cans in there; and his comment was, 'Well,
we need to renegotiate this with the Garbage Company' ."
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"I MAKE A MOTION THAT - WE AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO
USE CITY FUNDS TO PICK UP THE REFUSE AT THOSE TWO (2)
DUMPSTERS ON MOSS ROAD AND THE - ELEVEN (11) DUMPSTERS THAT
ARE ON LORI ANNE [LANE] AND NORTH FAIRFAX [AVENUE] AT LEAST
TWICE A WEEK UNTIL SUCH TIME THERE IS SOME PERMANENT
ARRANGEMENTS WORKED OUT WITH -GARBAGE COMPANY - AND
HAVE THEM JUST DISPOSE IT WHEREVER THE CITY DISPOSES OF THAT
STUFF." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MILLER. SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. DISCUSSION.
DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE STATED, "IF WE DIRECT THE CITY MANAGER
TO FOCUS ALL ENERGY ON THIS AT THIS POINT IN TIME, THAT WE CAN
FIND A GOOD PERMANENT SOLUTION."
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
DEPUTYMAYORBLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Mayor Bush stated~ "I think that the Commissioner Blake~s comment about getting a
solution to this and asking the Manager to report back would be - I would like to see
that." Commissioner Krebs stated~ "Yes." Commissioner Miller stated~ "Exactly
Mayor." Commissioner Krebs stated~ "Was that a Consensus for the City Manager to get
back to us." Mr. Lockcuff stated~ "I will relay the message." Deputy Mayor Blake
stated~ "Thank you." Mayor Bush added~ "Is there a Consensus that the Manager would
come back and report on this - each Meeting until it is resolved?" Commissioner Krebs
stated~ "Correct." Commissioner Miller stated~ "Yes." Deputy Mayor Blake stated~
"Yes." No objections were noted."
REPORTS
Commission Seat Two/Deputy Mayor - Michael S. Blake
Deputy Mayor Blake discussed transportation at the July 4th event and stated~ "The 4th of
July - everything was great~ however~ I do see that we received at least one letter that was
circulated. I talked to more than just a few people who were very frustrated~ once again~
after being promised last year~ once and for all~ that it would not happen again with theobus service transportation that we are providing to the event. Actually~ the transportation
home.
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Apparently, and 1 was not over there - but apparently at the High School pick up - it was
just pure chaos. There was no indication as to what bus was going, what place; and as it
turns out, two (2) people told me that the bus they were on went to every stop in the City
to get everybody off." Deputy Mayor Blake added, "There were people that were just
getting home at midnight that took the bus, or thereabouts."
Furthermore, Deputy Mayor Blake commented, "Anthony [Garganese] do we have any
control over sign content - specifically, for tastefulness?" Attorney Garganese stated,
''No - for the most part."
Tape 4/Side A
Further brief discussion.
REPORTS
608. Commission Seat Three - Donald A. Gilmore
Commissioner Gilmore stated, "I would like to compliment the Staff on the 4th of July. 1
can see where transportation is a problem. But, hopefully they willleam a little more this
year."
Commissioner Gilmore added, "One thing 1 feel sorry for is the Police out there in their
dress blues in that 100 degree heat down on them." Commissioner Gilmore added, "It
would be nice if they could have a light shirt on - but, other than that, 1 thought it was
great. "
ADJOURNMENT
Mayor Bush adjourned the Meeting at 11: 11 p.m.
RESPECTFULLY SUBM/ITED:
ANDREA LORENZO-LUACES, CMC AND
,-()d4]~
DEBBIE FRANKLIN
DEPUTY CITY CLERK
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APPROVED:
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NOTE: These Minutes were approved at the August 8, 2005 Regular City Commission Meeting.