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COMMISSION AGENDA
ITEM K
Consent X
Informational
Public Hearings
Regular
July 23.2001
Regular Meeting
Mgr. / Dept.
Authorization
CONSENT
K. Office Of The City Clerk
Approval Of The Minutes Of The July 9,2001 Regular City Commission Meeting.
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I. CALL TO ORDER
The Regular Meeting of Monday, July 9, 2001 of the City Commission was called to
order by Mayor Paul P. Partyka at 6:31 p.m. in the Commission Chambers of the
Municipal Building (City Hall, 1126 East State Road 434, Winter Springs, Florida
32708).
ROLL CALL:
Mayor Paul P. Partyka, present
Deputy Mayor David W. McLeod, present
Commissioner Robert S. Miller, present
Commissioner Michael S. Blake, present
Commissioner Edward Martinez, Jr., absent
Commissioner Cindy Gennell, present
City Manager Ronald W. McLemore, present
City Attorney Anthony A. Garganese, arrived at 6:38 p.m.
A moment of silence was followed by the Pledge of Allegiance.
A Memorandum from City Manager, Ronald W. McLemore regarding the Fourth of July
celebration was read by Mayor Partyka.
II. PUBLIC INPUT
Ms. Joanne Krebs, 1002 Taproot Drive, Winter Springs, Florida: as the Code
Enforcement Board Chairperson, Ms. Krebs asked if the Commission would consider
appointing two (2) additional members as "Alternates" to the Code Enforcement Board.
Mr. Anthony A. Garganese, City Attorney arrived 6:38 p.m.
Mayor Partyka asked Attorney Garganese about the appointing of two (2) alternate
members to the Code Enforcement Board. Attorney Garganese stated that there can be
two (2) alternate members and that he would need to review the Code. Attorney
Garganese further stated, "If you appointed alternative members, you would have to set
forth some procedures to set forth when they would serve as a voting member."
The second issue Ms. Krebs discussed was what happens when a dog bites someone, if a
police officer does not witness the incident; and our use of the Seminole County Animal
Code.
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Discussion. Mayor Partyka asked Attorney Garganese, if "You've got a complaint on an
animal, what can the City do, and this from a legal position?" Attorney Garganese
responded, "If it amounts to a Code Violation, then we can issue a - possibly a civil
citation or bring the violator to the Code Enforcement Board. Both cases require a
certain amount of evidence in which to prosecute the case. That may require, again,
testimony of eye witnesses; that may require video evidence; it may require pictures,
affidavits; something to support the fact that somebody violated the Code." Further
discussion ensued with Chief of Police, Daniel 1. Kerr. Commissioner Edward Martinez,
Jr. said, "What she is asking is can we as the Commission change the procedure so that
we can issue the citation without having to wait for the animal control people to take
care of business?" Chief Kerr stated, "I'm sure with some Code changes, you can do
that. "
The Seminole County Animal Control Code was further discussed. Deputy Mayor David
W. McLeod stated, "Our intent as this Commission was to adopt Seminole County's to
give us more bite.- to the Ordinance, but the thing here, I think we need to go back to our
own Ordinance and do something that gives our own control, our own protection within
our own City. That what we're after." Commissioner Martinez added, "This goes back
to the very premise that has come up before, many, many times before, and we
continuously continue to go on record as saying that the - violation is covered by State
laws, or its covered by County laws and we don't have to duplicate, or we don't have to
do it again, etcetera, etcetera. And every time we do that, somebody tells us that we can
write a more stringent code, than what the State or the County have; and I think it's time
that we started - the City writing our Ordinances based on what the law is to provide the
best efforts of safety for our citizens here in Winter Springs."
Mayor Partyka said to Attorney Garganese, "The current law, from a nuisance standpoint,
if there are complaints on anything, going down to the barking dogs, barking animals of
any kind - noise - we have the ability to cite those people, is that correct?" Attorney
Garganese stated, "Yes we do." Mayor Partyka further said to Attorney Garganese, "And
nuisance can be anything - we've got leash laws for dogs, we've got barking... - so
people can make a complaint on that, is that correct?" Attorney Garganese responded,
"Yes sir."
Mr. Ned Voska, 815 West State Road 434, Winter Springs. Florida: - handed out a
document to the Commission, and spoke about the Village Walk project. Mr. Voska
questioned why the sidewalk did not extend an additional two hundred feet (200'), and
specifically asked, "Why was my property deleted from it?" Discussion.
Mr. V oska also spoke about being at the State Meetings; paying taxes; that other people
were very vocal about their needs; and about utility services which he does not have. Mr.
Voska stated, "Put me out of the City of Winter Springs and I'll be a part of Casselberry."
Mayor Partyka asked Manager McLemore, "Are there any plans for utility services in
that area?" Mayor Partyka pointed out that Manager McLemore was taking notes on this
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matter and said, "Let's see what we can do; if nothing else, to get you some of these
"
answers.
Mr. Medford McCoy, 114 Brookshire Court, Winter Springs. Florida: asked about the
status of the traffic light at Winding Hollow Boulevard and State Road 434? Manager
McLemore said that he would call Mr. McCoy tomorrow on this matter. Mr. McCoy also
inquired about the Seminole Trail coming through the City. Discussion ensued on
funding sources and breaking ground on the bridge over State Road 434. Manager
McLemore said, "I will provide you with a letter on this."
Mr. Kenneth L. Wood, 2078 South Orange Blossom Trail, Apopka, Florida: as the owner
of Medallion Convenience stores, he is the "Chevron," "Texaco," and "Citgo" distributor
in Orlando. Mr. Wood spoke of the abandoned gas station at Hayes Road, and what
improvements can be expected.
Tape I/Side B
Commissioner Michel S. Blake asked Manager McLemore if he knew the distance from
the "Chevron" property to the Cumberland Farms property?
.:..:. AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING PRESENTATIONS WERE MADE
BY MA YOR PARTYKA, AND DOCUMENTED AS FOLLOWS. .:. .:.
Mayor Partyka read two Resolutions in honor of the service of Districting Commission
Members, Mr. William Poe and Mr. Charles Sorkin.
.:. .:. AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING REGULAR AGENDA ITEM "H"
WAS NEXT DISCUSSED, AS DOCUMENTED. .:. .:.
VI. REGULAR
REGULAR
H. Office Of The City Manager
Requesting The City Commission To Approve A Resolution Ordering A Bond
Referendum On The Question Of Acquiring And Improving The Parker Property
For Expansion Of Central Winds Park Through The Use Of General Obligation
Bond Proceeds.
Discussion ensued between Manager McLemore, Attorney Garganese, members of the
Commission and Mr. David Moore, the City's Financial Consultant on this matter.
Commissioner Blake asked if in the question that goes to the voters, "Is there a way to list
in here the estimated cost for a hypothetical homeowner?" Discussion. Manager
McLemore suggested, "We can do that through a fact sheet."
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Discussion.
The suggested wording of the proposed ballot was discussed, and Commissioner Cindy
Gennell suggested, "My only request here is to clarify that ballot language, so that you
don't have unreasonable expectations of the voters if they do pass that."
Commissioner Martinez advised the Manager McLemore, "We must be very clear to the
public that we expect to approve this Bond; that we're not acquiring this land to satisfy
the needs of outside leagues that want to come into our City and use our parks, and this is
strictly for the benefit of the citizens and the residents of Winter Springs."
"I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE ITEM 'H,' THE
RESOLUTION IN QUESTION HERE, WHICH UNDER IT'S PURPOSE STATES
VERY CLEARLY THAT THIS AGENDA ITEM IS HERE FOR THE
COMMISSION TO APPROVE, THE BALLOT QUESTION FOR APPROVAL OF
THE REFERENDUM QUESTION FOR THE PROPOSED REFERENDUM AND
ACQUSITION OF THE PARKER PROPERTY FOR EXPANSION OF CENTRAL
WINDS PARK" MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ. SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER GENNELL. DISCUSSION.
Attorney Garganese handed out the related Resolution.
COMMISSIONER . MILLER EXPRESSED HIS CONCERN WITH THIS.
MANAGER McLEMORE STATED, "IF YOU APPROVE IT TONIGHT AT A
NUMBER, WE WILL GO BACK TO THEM WITH THAT NUMBER - IF THAT
NUMBER IS AGREEABLE, WE WILL TIE IT UP IN AN AGREEMENT, IN A
CONTRACT - AND LOCK IT IN, AND THE ONLY ISSUE I TIDNK WILL BE
TWO THINGS. ONE WILL BE, DO THEY AGREE ON A PRICE. NUMBER
TWO, WILL THEY AGREE ON A CLOSING DATE." FURTHER DISCUSSION
ENSUED ON THE MOTION.
ATTORNEY GARGANESE SUGGESTED "MAYBE THE COMMISSION
WOULD ALLOW THE CHAIR - TO ALLOW THE COMMISSIONER TO
WITHDRAW HIS MOTION, AND RESTATE IT IN A WAY THAT CLEARLY
SETS FORTH THAT HIS DESIRE IS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A
REFERENDUM AND THEN BRING BACK ANOTHER VOTE FOR THE
RESOLUTION." COMMISSIONER GENNELL STATED, "I'LL TAKE BACK
THE SECOND." MAYOR PARTYKA ASKED IF THE COMMISSION WAS IN
AGREEMENT. TO "START ALL OVER." WITH CONSENSUS OF THE
COMMISSION THIS WAS AGREED TO.
COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ STATED, "I WITHDRAW THE MOTION." I
NOW MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE ITEM 'H' ON THE REGULAR
AGENDA."
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"Point of Order" by Commissioner Blake.
MAYOR PARTYKA SUMMARIZED COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ'S MOTION
BY STATING, "THE MOTION IS TO DO A BOND REFERENDUM TO
ACQUIRE AND IMPROVE THE PARKER PROPERTY. IS THERE A SECOND
TO THAT."
"I WILL SECOND THAT." SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER GENNELL.
DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR McLEOD: NAY
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: NAY
COMMISSIONER GENNELL: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Commissioner Blake stated, "Point of Order" regarding a previous statement.
Mayor Partyka polled each of the Commissioners for their suggested price. The
consensus was $2.95 million dollars. Mayor Partyka then asked, "Does everyone else
agree on the May closing?" Mayor Partyka then clarified, "The vote is four (4)
Commissioners at "two. nine five" ($2,950,000.00) and one at "two.nine" ($2,900,00.00),
so it's "two.nine five zero" ($2,950,000.00) with a May closing. That's the will of this
Commission." Manager McLemore and Mr. Moore further advised the Commission on
the numbers.
Mayor Partyka said, "At this point in time, this Commission needs to vote for Resolution
2001-30 with these two (2) figures in it, $3.4 million dollars and .250 mills. Is that
correct? Okay, I need a Motion on that."
"SO MOVED." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ. SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER GENNELL. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER GENNELL: AYE
COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR McLEOD: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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.:. .:. AGENDA NOTE: "PUBLIC INPUT" WAS AGAIN DISCUSSED WITH
THE FOLLOWING CITIZEN BEING HEARD, AS DOCUMENTED. .:..:.
Mr. Richard Grogan, 1 North Fairfax Avenue, Winter Springs, Florida: spoke of the
great response he had received at his business, about the great Fourth of July celebration
put on by the City of Winter Springs.
Tape 2/Side A
Mr. Grogan then spoke about the Village Walk project and stated, "I want to make sure
it's known, I went to sixty-seven (67) businesses and told every single one of them about
this project, from the day I first heard about it so there is no one that can say they've not
known about it."
.:. .:. AGENDA NOTE: THE CONSENT AGENDA WAS NEXT DISCUSSED,
AS DOCUMENTED. .:. .:.
III. CONSENT
CONSENT
A. Office Of The Mayor
Resolution Number 2001-25, A Resolution Of The City Of Winter Springs, Florida,
Expressing Appreciation To Mr. Chuck Holzman For His Service On The Code
Enforcement Board.
CONSENT
B. Office Of The City Manager
Requesting That The City Commission Approve The Attached Consent And
Subordination Agreement Between The City And Verizon Wireless.
Discussion.
Commissioner Martinez asked "Under 'RECITALS:' - the fourth paragraph, it says on
there - the terms of prime lease, the 'City must give its consent,' and I'm trying to find
out if we can get away from some of this language."
CONSENT .
C. Office Of The Mayor
Resolution Number 2001-26, A Resolution Of The City Of Winter Springs, Florida,
Expressing Appreciation To Ms. Nina Neal For Her Service On The Oak Forest
Wall And Beautification District Advisory Committee.
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CONSENT
D. Office Of The Mayor
Resolution Number 2001-27, A Resolution Of The City Of Winter Springs, Florida,
Expressing Appreciation To Mr. Albert Murro For His Service On The Oak Forest
Wall And Beautification District Advisory Committee.
CONSENT
E. Finance Department
Requests That The City Commission Approved Resolution 2001-28 Relating To The
Designation Of The City Manager To Receive And Review Confidential Information
Concerning The Local Communications Services Tax.
Attorney Garganese asked if this Item could be discussed and voted on separately. This
was agreed to.
CONSENT
F. Office Of The City Clerk
Approval Of The Minutes Of The June 25, 2001 Regular City Commission Meeting.
Commissioner Gennell stated, "On page twelve (12) of thirty (30), that's where we were
voting on that open container - I recall it being a three-one (3-1), and here it is a two-two
(2-2), and it said it failed." Commissioner Gennell further said, "It was a three-one (3-1),
so we just need to get that corrected." Mayor Partyka stated, "So noted on behalf of the
City Clerk."
Commissioner Gennell then said that on page sixteen (16) of thirty (30), on the very
bottom line where I move to extend the Meeting, I specifically moved to extend the
Meeting for one (1) hour. And it's not reflected in here."
Mayor Partyka stated, "I am going to ask for a Motion to approve the Consent Agenda,
except for 'G. ",
"SO MOVED." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BLAKE. SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER GENNELL. DISCUSSION. COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ
STATED, "I WOULD LIKE TO BE EXCLUDED FROM VOTING ON THE
MINUTES OF THE LAST MEETING BECAUSE I WASN'T HERE."
ATTORNEY GARGANESE STATED THAT COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ
DOES NEED TO VOTE, HOWEVER THE CITY CLERK SHOULD "MAKE A
NOTATION IN THIS MINUTES THAT COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ WAS
NOT PRESENT AT THE PREVIOUS MEETING."
Note: For the record, Commissioner Martinez was not present at the June 25th, 2001
Regular Meeting of the City Commission.
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VOTE:
COMMISSIONER GENNELL: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR McLEOD: AYE
COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ: NAY
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
"Point of Order" by Commissioner Blake regarding moving Consent Agenda Item "G"
to the Regular Agenda.
Mayor Partyka advised those in attendance that Consent Agenda Item "G" will be moved
to the Regular Agenda, as the last Agenda Item.
"Point of Privilege" by Commissioner Martinez who stated, "I would like this
Commission to reconsider their vote on Item 'B,' Public Hearings of the June 25th, 2001
Meeting.
With discussion on the reconsideration of Public Hearings Agenda Item "B," which dealt
with an Open Container Ordinance, Attorney Garganese stated that "If a Commissioner is
not present at a Meeting in which it was voted, he has the ability to make the Motion to
reconsider. "
"I'D LIKE TO MAKE THIS MOTION TO RECONSIDER THE VOTE."
MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ.
MOTION DIED FOR LACK OF A SECOND.
Commissioner Martinez then stated, "I am going to ask that the Manager bring this back
as a Regular Agenda Item to be discussed, in the near future, maybe at the next Meeting."
Discussion.
Attorney Garganese clarified, "Some Items you cannot present a 'Motion to Reconsider.'
That was simply a First Reading of an Ordinance. It's obviously within the power of the
Commission to deny a 'Motion to Reconsider.' If the Commission had approved an Item
which then caused a third party to act, a 'Motion to Reconsider' is completely out of
order. But for a First Reading of an Ordinance that failed, when you have a
Commissioner that wasn't present, he can make a 'Motion to Reconsider. It's up to the
Commission to decide whether they want to reconsider or not."
Mayor Partyka added, "Just to reconfirm, it is coming back, based on the comments from
the last discussion."
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IV. INFORMATIONAL
None.
V. PUBLIC HEARINGS
PUBLIC HEARINGS
A. Community Development Department
Requests The City Commission Conduct A Public Hearing For The First Reading
And Consideration Of Ordinance 2001-13, Establishing Separation Requirements
For Construction And/Or Installation Of New Gas Station Facilities.
Mayor Partyka said "I'm looking to read this by 'Title' only, and need a Motion."
"SO MOVED." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ. SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER GENNELL. DISCUSSION.
"I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE." MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER BLAKE. SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR McLEOD.
DISCUSSION ENSUED ON POTENTIAL PROBLEMS THAT MAY ARISE IF
THIS GOES FORWARD.
VOTE: (ON TABLING)
COMMISSIONER GENNELL: NAY
DEPUTYMAYORMcLEOD: AYE
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ: NAY
COMMISSIONER MILLER: NAY
MOTION DID NOT CARRY.
VOTE: (ON MAIN MOTION TO READ BY "TITLE" ONLY)
COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR McLEOD: NAY
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER GENNELL: AYE
MOTION DID NOT CARRY.
Attorney Garganese read the Ordinance in its entirety.
Attorney Garganese explained "There is one issue that needs to be considered and has
come to my attention, that there may be one (1) or two (2) - proposed gasoline stations in
the permit application process. If that is the case, the Commission may wish to consider
vesting those applications under the terms of this Ordinance. By vesting that means they
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would - be allowed to continue throughout the application process for a final
determination and approval or disapproval by the City." Discussion ensued on this
matter and the Bert Harris Act.
Commissioner Blake asked, "Where did we come up with 350 feet?" Mr. Charles C.
Carrington, AICP, Community Development Department Director and Mr. Earnest
McDonald, Comprehensive Planning Coordinator discussed this and buffering
requirements. Further discussion ensued on tanks. The number of sites in question was
commented on by Ms. Jimette Cook, Code Enforcement Division Manager and Mr. John
Baker, Land Planning Coordinator.
Further discussion.
Commissioner Robert S. Miller stated, "If they haven't filed their paperwork, and if it's
in order and on file with this City as of this evening, then I don't think we ought to
entertain exempting it as the City Manager has said. If it's going to be an issue where
there is going to be a legal suit, then I think we need to have the City Attorney come back
to us, in a month from now, or two (2) months from now if you'd like, after he has done
an intensive research in this entire issue of that location, the Hayes - the Texaco station,
Chevron station, whatever it is going to be.
Tape 2/Side B
Further discussion.
Commissioner Gennell mentioned that "Over a year ago, we were supposed to have
brought to us, Lighting Standards so that - some of the worst offenders of the very high
intense lights are those gas stations and its never come forward and I've asked for it a
couple of times, but the point is, to go forward and let them keep proliferating without
even having that in place, it is not a good idea."
Commissioner Blake stated, "350 feet is fine with me, but I do think we need to take
some special notice of those properties or those applications that may be existing, once
we are able to determine where they stand." Discussion continued.
Mayor Partyka opened the "Public Input" portion of this Agenda Item.
Mr. Kenneth 1. Wood, 2078 South Orange Blossom Trail, Apopka, Florida: addressed
the Commission ,about his plans and the preliminary meetings that he has had with City
Staff.
Discussion.
The "Public Input" portion of this Agenda Item was closed.
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"I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE MOVE ORDINANCE 2001-
13 TO THE SECOND READING WITH THE PROVISO THAT THE CITY
ATTORNEY TAKE A CLOSE LOOK AT THE VESTING ISSUE OF ANY
EXISTING POTENTIAL ACTIVE SITES." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER
GENNELL. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MILLER. DISCUSSION.
ATTORNEY GARGANESE STATED, "I WOULD RECOMMENDED ADDING A
SUBSECTION 'D' TO SECTION 20-417, WHICH SAYS SOMETHING LIKE
THIS, 'THIS SECTION SHALL NOT APPLY TO ANY PENDING GASOLINE
STATION PROJECT VESTED, AS PROVIDED BY LAW, OR ANY GASOLINE
STATION EXISTING AT THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF THIS ORDINANCE.'
THAT WOULD MAKE IT CLEAR THAT CERTAIN VESTED GASOLINE
STATIONS WILL BE PROTECTED AND WILL NOT BE SUBJECT TO THE
ORDINANCE."
COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ INQUIRED, "WHEN YOU SAY VESTED, ARE
WE TALKING ABOUT A PERSON THAT OWNS A PIECE OF PROPERTY, OR
ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT AN ACTIVE APPLICATION ON FILE?"
ATTORNEY GARGANESE RESPONDED BY SAYING, "VESTED, AS
PROVIDED BY LAW." ATTORNEY GARGANESE FURTHER EXPLAINED
THAT THIS MEANT, "IT IS ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS. YOU LOOK AT
WHETHER SOMEBODY HAS SUBMITTED AN APPLICATION, WHETHER
THEY HAVE PRIOR APPROVALS BY THE CITY. YOU DETERMINE
WHETHER THEY HAVE A PROPERTY, OR THEY HAVE A PROPERTY
RIGHT, OR A PROPERTY INTEREST IN BUILDING A GASOLINE
STATION."
VOTE:
DEPUTY MAYOR McLEOD: AYE
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ: AYE
COMMISSIONER GENNELL: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Mayor Partyka called a break.
The Meeting was called back to order at 9:47 p.m.
.:..:. AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING REGULAR AGENDA ITEM WAS
NEXT HEARD BY THE COMMISSION, AS DOCUMENTED. .:. .:.
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VI. REGULAR
REGULAR
B. Office Of The City Manager
Requests That The City Commission Consider Recommendations From Staff And
Avid Neo Geo, And Formally Adopt A New City Logo For The City.
Mr. Gene DeMarie, General Services Department Director introduced this Agenda Item,
and members of the Avid Neo Geo organization. A presentation of three (3) suggested
logos were presented to the Commission by Ms. Diana LaRue.
Tape 3/Side A
Discussion ensued on costs involved with potential printing costs; that the "inc" be
spelled out as "incorporated;" and that the word Florida be used. Regarding the third
sample, one suggestion was to either do away with the water feature, or enhance it. Other
suggestions were that the logos should be bolder and have more "pizzazz."
Commissioner Gennell suggested that Avid Neo Geo should review the upcoming
August issue of a publication from the Florida League of Cities called "Quality Cities"
which has most of the logos from many of the cities around the State. Commissioner
Gennell also suggested that another source would be from Chief Kerr who may have
some brochures presenting different kinds of badges and logos.
With further discussion, it was suggested that all Members of the Commission would
select their top five (5) favorite logos as depicted in the upcoming August issue. of the
"Quality Cities" publication; and after the Florida League of Cities August Conference
has been held, that the top favorites could be forwarded to Mr. DeMarie who can in turn
give the information to a representative from Avid Neo Geo.
Ms. LaRue suggested to the Commission, "I would just ask you to keep a couple of
things in mind as you are coming up with your own ideas, and that is, you don't
necessarily - you don't want your logo to look like everybody else. Don't limit yourself
to the circular format, maybe instead perhaps pull out elements you like within there.
Comments like 'Florida,' 'bolder,' 'still clean and classic," 'pizzazz' and all that,
definitely ought to be taken into account. And also, to remember colors."
Mayor Partyka said to Ms. LaRue, "We'll give it back to you - the end of August, when
we come back - ~d transmit to them; and you'll come back, maybe in September."
.:. .:. AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING PUBLIC HEARINGS AGENDA
ITEMS WERE NEXT DISCUSSED BY THE COMMISSION, AS FOLLOWS.
.:. .:.
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v. PUBLIC HEARINGS
PUBLIC HEARINGS
B. Community Development Department - Code Enforcement Division
Requests The City Commission Consider Third Reading And Adoption Of
Ordinance No. 2001-16 Dealing With Temporary Storage Structures.
Attorney Garganese read the Ordinance by "Title" only.
Attorney Garganese passed out a copy of the revised, proposed Ordinance and advised
the Commission that on page two (2) of five (5), subparagraph (c) - "In that
subparagraph, the City Manager recommended breaking down the removal section into
two (2) different elements. One in which a tropical storm or hurricane watch is issued by
the National Weather Service, in that case shall have the right to order the supplier to
remove the temporary storage structure by providing the supplier at least twenty-four (24)
hours notice of removal. The other component would be, in the event there is a tropical
storm or hurricane warning that's issued by the National Weather Service, in that case the
temporary service structure shall be immediately removed by the supplier after the
warning has been issued, and that is a technical change. It's to distinguish between
tropical storm hurricane watch and warning."
Discussion.
Commissioner Martinez suggested that "I have always been of the opinion that we're
dealing with a business for profit and in Section (b), page two (2) of four (4), where it
says a pertinent fee may be required by Resolution; I think it should say, a permit fee
shall be required."
Tape 3/Side B
Discussion.
Mayor Partyka opened the "Public Input" portion of this Agenda Item.
No one spoke.
The "Public Input" portion of this Agenda Item was closed.
"I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE NUMBER 2001-
16 WITH AMENDED SECTION (b) AND (c) ON PAGE TWO (2) OF FOUR (4)."
MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ. SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER MILLER WHO STATED, "WITH THE UNDERSTANDING
THAT HE IS REFERRING TO - 'FEES SHALL BE.'" COMMISSIONER
MARTINEZ ADDED, "YES, THAT'S THE CHANGE, AND THE HURRICANE
WARNING." DISCUSSION.
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VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER GENNELL: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR McLEOD: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
C. Finance Department
Requests The City Commission Consider A Second Reading And Adoption Of
Ordinance No. 2001-42 As It Relates To The Communication Services Tax
Simplification Tax.
Attorney Garganese read Ordinance 2001-42 by "Title" only.
Mayor Partyka opened the "Public Input" portion of this Agenda Item.
No one spoke.
The "Public Input" portion of this Agenda Item was closed.
Commissioner Blake stated, "I do want to reiterate my comments from last time when we
discussed this about the windfall provision, and how, if, and when that occurs, I would
consider that to be a tax increase and we will have to deal with that when it occurs."
"I MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT ORDINANCE 2001-42." MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER BLAKE. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ.
DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR McLEOD: AYE
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER GENNELL: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: NAY
MOTION CARRIED.
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PUBLIC HEARINGS
D. Community Development Department
Requests The City Commission Conduct A Public Hearing For The First Reading
And Consideration Of Ordinance 2001-43 Amending Provisions In The Land
Development Regulations Appertaining To Street Names, The Naming Of Streets,
And The Uniform Building Numbering System.
Mayor Partyka said "I need a Motion to read by 'Title' only."
"SO MOVED." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ. SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER BLAKE. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER GENNELL: AYE
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR McLEOD: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Attorney Garganese read Ordinance 2001-43 by "Title" only.
Mr. Baker addressed the Commission on this matter.
Commissioner Blake voiced his concern with the City being able to name streets. Mr.
Baker explained that the "County is going to have the final word as to whether the street
names sound is a duplication or sounds like a duplication of another street name.
Anyhow - you're really not giving up anything."
Commissioner Martinez asked Manager McLemore to look into a matter involving a
property owner at 936 Greenbriar Lane. Commissioner Martinez explained, "The houses
there are numbered in multiples of two (2). The house before - is 932. Hers should be
934, but they numbered it 936. She has been here approximately four (4) times trying to
find a solution to the numbering of her house, and she hasn't been successful."
Commissioner Martinez added, "If it's necessary - that we correct it. If it's not, just tell
her it's okay the way it is."
Mayor Partyka opened the "Public Input" portion of this Agenda Item.
No one spoke.
The "Public Input" portion of this Agenda Item was closed.
Mayor Partyka said, "Looking for a Motion to move this on."
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"SO MOVED." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ. SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER MILLER. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
DEPUTY MAYOR McLEOD: AYE
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER GENNELL: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
"MOTION TO EXTEND THE MEETING BY ONE (1) HOUR." MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER BLAKE. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ.
DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ: AYE
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
DEPUTYMAYORMcLEOD: AYE
COMMISSIONER GENNELL: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Commissioner Miller asked Manager McLemore to advise the Commission which
Agenda Items were most important.
.:. .:. AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING REGULAR AGENDA ITEMS
WERE DISCUSSED IN THE ORDER AS DOCUMENTED. .:. .:.
VI. REGULAR
REGULAR
A. Community Development Department
Presents To The City Commission A Request To Hold A Public Hearing To
Consider A Conditional Use To Allow Multiple Family Dwellings In The C-1
(Neighborhood Commercial) Zoning District At Wagner's Curve, Pursuant To
Section 20-234 Of The Zoning Chapter Of The City Code Of Ordinances.
Mr. Baker introduced this Agenda Item.
Commissioner Blake asked Attorney Garganese for a brief explanation on special
exceptions, and this was done. Discussion ensued.
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Mr. Tom Daly, Daly Design Group, Inc.: addressed the Commission on this project and
discussed some of their concerns, such as the material used on the side walls; rooflines;
and the fence line along State Road 434.
With further discussion, Commissioner Blake added, "My main concern is the rooflines.
I'd like to see us try to do something different with that, if we can. Something to create
more interest, more architectural value in the roofline." Mr. Daly responded,
"Absolutely, and when we come back with our developer's agreement, we'll have - that
kind of information."
Commissioner Miller agreed with Commissioner Blake's concerns. Commissioner
Gennell asked, "You don't have any plans to have any internal sidewalks, do you?" Mr.
Daly, stated, "Yes we do. Absolutely." Commissioner Gennell then inquired, "Is this
commercial tract part of the tract that we are considering or that we'll be encompassed
with the developer's agreement?" Mr. Daly responded, "It is our intention that that will
be part of it, yes." Additionally, Commissioner Gennell stated, "I do not like the right in,
right out driveway into the commercial piece on that curve. It's just a dangerous road,
and you've got an entrance over here that will get you in and out of the commercial just
fine." Commissioner Gennell further said, "I would not favor that entrance at all, being
there. "
Deputy Mayor McLeod stated, "I did want to point out that I did meet with Ed Leerdam
for about fifteen (15) minutes to discuss this project. Slightly thereafter, it was rejected
by the Board, so I just want to make sure that's on the record."
Tape 4/Side A
Further discussion.
Mayor Partyka opened the "Public Input" portion of this Agenda Item.
No one spoke.
The "Public Input" portion of this Agenda Item was closed.
"I MOVE TO APPROVE ITEM 'A' TO INCLUDE THE - SEVEN (7)
CONDITIONS LISTED ON PAGE FIVE (5) OF ITEM 'A.'" MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ. SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR McLEOD.
DISCUSSION.
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VOTE:
DEPUTY MAYOR McLEOD: AYE
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ: AYE
COMMISSIONER GENNELL: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Mayor Partyka departed at 11:35 p.m.
Deputy Mayor McLeod then took over the Meeting.
REGULAR
G. Office Of The City Manager
Requesting The Commission To Approve Ballot Language For The September 4,
2001 Referendum, Question An Approval Of The Proposed Revisions Of The City
Charter.
"I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO READ ORDINANCE 2001-44 BY 'TITLE'
ONLY." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BLAKE. SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ. DISCUS ION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER GENNELL: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Attorney Garganese read Ordinance 2001-44 by "Title" only and spoke of some
revisions: "If you'll turn to page three (3) of five (5) of the Ordinance, that's the essence
of the Ordinance and the proposed Referendum. The other provisions of this Ordinance
are simply technical requirements, that call the Referendum on September 4th, 2001."
Regarding the wording, Commissioner Blake suggested using "City Manager, Clerk and
Attorney." Commissioner Gennell suggested, "Requirements for City Budget, Capital
Program and Citizen Initiative." Manager McLemore and Attorney Garganese both
agreed that the moving of the word "and" would work.
Deputy Mayor McLeod stated that his name was spelled incorrectly and asked that it be
corrected.
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"I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO MOVE ORDINANCE 2001-44 TO A
SECOND READING AND PUBLIC HEARING ON JULY 23RD, 2001 AND
DIRECT THE CITY ATTORNEY TO DELIVER THE CHARTER QUESTION
LANGUAGE TO THE SUPERVISOR OF ELECTIONS AS CONTAINED IN THE
ORDINANCE." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BLAKE. SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER GENNELL: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
A Proclamation calling the Special Election on September 4, 2001, was read into the
record by Deputy Mayor McLeod. (See Attachment "A.")
.:. .:. AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING AGENDA ITEM WAS LISTED ON
THE AGENDA AS CONSENT AGENDA ITEM "G," BUT WAS MOVED TO
THE REGULAR AGENDA. .:. .:.
Office Of The City Attorney
Requesting That The City Commission Consider The City Manager's Request That
A Resolution Be Submitted To The Florida League Of Cities Resolutions Committee
Regarding When A Governmental Entity Is Subject To The Terms Of A Joint
Planning Agreement.
Attorney Garganese introduced the proposed Resolution.
Brief discussion.
"I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION 2001-29." MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MILLER.
DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ: AYE
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER GENNELL: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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.:. .:. AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING REGULAR AGENDA ITEMS
WERE NEXT DISCUSSED AS DOCUMENTED. .:. .:.
REGULAR
F. Office Of The City Manager
Requests The Commission To Review The Preliminary Budget And Budget Message
And Schedule Budget Workshop Dates.
Manager McLemore began by saying, "It has been a real pleasure working on the budget
this year and not having to do so much of it myself, and - someone who is willing to bum
the midnight oil and help me get it done. So Louise, I thank you for that."
Manager McLemore further discussed portions of the budget, and that a balanced Budget
has been presented to the Commission. Manager McLemore then reviewed his Budget
Message.
"I'LL MOVE TO EXTEND THE MEETING FOR FIFfEEN (15) MINUTES."
MOTION BY COMMISSIONER GENNELL. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER
MILLER. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER GENNELL: AYE
COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ: AYE
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Further discussion.
Budget Workshop dates were then discussed. With consensus of the Commission, it was
agreed that the first Workshop would be held on Monday, July 16, 2001, beginning at
5:00 p.m. (until 10:00 p.m.).
Manager McLemore said that they would be in Tallahassee on July 1 ih and 18th, but that
he would verify these dates.
Other Workshop dates were discussed. If additional Workshop(s) were needed, the next
one would be held on Tuesday, July 24th, 2001 from 5:00 p.m. (until 10:00 p.m.); and
then on Wednes<:iay, July 25th. This Workshop would also begin at 5:00 p.m. and run
until 10:00 p.m.
"MOTION TO EXTEND BY FIFfEEN (15) MINUTES." MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER MILLER. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BLAKE.
DISCUSSION.
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VOTE:
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ: AYE
COMMISSIONER GENNELL: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Tape 4/Side B
REGULAR
C. Police Department
Requesting The Commission To Give Approval To Purchase Used Ford Crown
Victoria Police Vehicles From San Antonio Texas.
Chief Kerr addressed the Commission on this request. Discussion.
Commissioner Blake asked Chief Kerr, "Have we checked into any lease programs,
where you don't have that outlay?" Further discussion.
"I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE ITEM 'C,' TO INCLUDE THE
ACQUISITON OF MORE VEHICLES THAN THE TEN (10), IF THE - MONEY
WILL BUY MORE CARS." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MILLER.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ: AYE
COMMISSIONER GENNELL: AYE
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
REGULAR
D. Office of the City Clerk
Requests That Commissioner Robert S. Miller Make An Appointment To The
Beautification Of Winter Springs Board; And That Commissioner Cindy Gennell
Make An Appointment To The Oak Forest Wall And Beautification District
Advisory Committee.
"I WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE MR. BILL POE."
COMMISSIONER MILLER. SECONDED. DISCUSSION.
MOTION BY
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VOTE:
COMMISSIONER GENNELL: AYE
COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ: AYE
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
No other Nominations were made this evening.
REGULAR
E. Fire Department
Requesting The City Commission To Discuss Transportation Alternatives For
Citizens.
"MOTION TO POSTPONE IT TO THE NEXT MEETING." MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER GENNELL. SECONDED. DISCUSSION. AS CHIEF
LALLATHIN WILL BE AT A CONFERENCE DURING THE NEXT MEETING,
HE ASKED IF IT COULD BE DONE AT THE FOLLOWING MEETING. THE
COMMISSION AGREED TO THIS.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ: AYE
COMMISSIONERGENNELL: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Deputy Mayor McLeod asked if this Agenda Item could be moved towards the front of
the Agenda, when it comes back to the Commission. This was acceptable to the
Commission.
VIII. ADJOURNMENT
Deputy Mayor McLeod stated, "Do we have a Motion to adjourn?"
"SO MOVED." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER GENNELL. SECONDED.
DISCUSSION. .
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VOTE:
COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ: AYE
COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER GENNELL: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Deputy Mayor McLeod adjourned the Meeting at 12:27 a.m.
.:..:. AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING REPORTS WERE NOT
DISCUSSED DURING THIS MEETING. .:. .:.
VII. REPORTS
REPORTS
A. City Manager - Ronald W. McLemore
REPORTS
B. City Attorney - Anthony A. Garganese
REPORTS
C. City Clerk - Andrea Lorenzo-Luaces
REPORTS
D. Commission Seat Two - Michael S. Blake
REPORTS
E. Commission Seat Three - Edward Martinez, Jr.
REPORTS
F. Commission Seat Four - Cindy Gennell
REPORTS
G. Commission 'Seat Five - David W. McLeod
REPORTS
H. Commission Seat One - Robert S. Miller
REPORTS
I. Office Of The Mayor - Paul P. Partyka
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RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED:
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NZO-LUACES, CMC
NOTE: These minutes were approved at the July 23, 2001 Regular City Commission Meeting.
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ATTACHMENT "A"
PROCLAMATION
A PROCLAMATION OF THE CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA, proclaiming that an Election will be held
in the City of Winter Springs, Florida, on Tuesday, September 4, 2001, for the purpose of one referendum dealing
with revising the City's Charter and a second referendum dealing with the purchase of property which could expand
Central Winds Park.
WHEREAS, the location of the Voting Places will be as follows:
Precinct. 13 - City of Winter Springs Civic Center, 400 North Edgemon Avenue
Precinct 24 - Seventh Day Adventist Church, 50 South Moss Road
Precinct 50 - Tuscawilla Country Club, 1500 Winter Springs Boulevard
Precinct 67 - Seventh Day Adventist Church, 50 South Moss Road
Precinct 75 - S1. Stephen's Catholic Church, 575 Tuskawilla Road
Precinct 76 - Church of the New Covenant, 875 Tuskawilla Road
Precinct 78 - City of Winter Springs Civic Center, 400 North Edgemon A venue
Precinct 94 - Tuscawilla Country Club, 1500 Winter Springs Boulevard
Precinct 95 - Wedgewood Tennis Villas, 1401 Forest Hills Drive
Precinct 96 - City of Winter Springs City Hall, 1126 East State Road 434
Precinct 103 - Tuscawilla Country Club, 1500 Winter Springs Boulevard
WHEREAS, the names of the Pollworkers which comprise the Election Board are on file with the Supervisor of
Elections Office in Sanford Florida.
NOW,THEREFORE, BE IT PROCLAIMED BY THE MAYOR AND THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE
CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA:
SECTION I - The Pollworkers will be compensated by the Supervisor of Elections.
SECTION II - The Polls will be open from 7:00 a.m. to 7:00 p.m. on Election Day, Tuesday, September 4, 2001.
GIVEN UNDER MY HAND this 9th
day of July.
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