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CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA
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FEBRUARY 28, 2005
CALL TO ORDER
The Regular Meeting of Monday, February 28, 2005 of the City Commission was called
to order by Mayor John F. Bush at 6:31 p.m. in the Commission Chambers of the
Municipal Building (City Hall, 1126 East State Road 434, Winter Springs, Florida
32708).
ROLL CALL:
Mayor John F. Bush, present
Deputy Mayor Michael S. Blake, present
Commissioner Robert S. Miller, absent
Commissioner Donald A. Gilmore, present
Commissioner Sally McGinnis, present
Commissioner Joanne M. Krebs, present
City Manager Ronald W. McLemore, present
City Attorney Anthony A. Garganese, present
A Moment of Silence was followed by the Pledge of Allegiance.
PUBLIC INPUT
Ms. Robin Gremillion, 1570 Wescott Loop, Winter Springs, Florida: presented a Petition
to the City Commission requesting that the City Commission deny a Cell Tower request.
Mayor Bush said to Ms. Gremillion, "Give it to the Clerk, and she will make sure the
Commissioners all get copies."
Mr. Paul Rosu, 2106 Kilamanjaro Court, Apopka, Florida: spoke of subdividing land.
With discussion, Deputy Mayor Michael S. Blake said, "Could we have an Agenda Item
at our next Meeting Mr. Mayor, that brings back to us discussion of exactly why we are
only allowed to subdivide a parcel one time; and what the differences between doing that
and going the subdivision process."
Mayor Bush said to City Manager Ronald W. McLemore and City Attorney Anthony A.
Garganese, "After you look at it, if you can get it on the next Meeting Agenda - or let us
know when, and let Paul (Rosu) know." With discussion, Deputy Mayor Blake added, "I
think there are folks up here, me included that aren't real clear on what the purpose of the
law is, the way it is written and why we should or should not change it."
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Mayor Bush said, "Is the Commission in agreement with what Commissioner Blake is
asking for?" Commissioner Sally McGinnis said, "Yes." Commissioner Joanne M.
Krebs remarked, "Yes." No objections were noted.
Mr. Tim Montgomery, 4190 Aldergate Place, Winter Springs, Florida: spoke on Consent
Agenda Item "207" and asked for a Continuance.
Deputy Mayor Blake suggested, "Take it off the Agenda and postpone it until the next
Meeting. We did also I think, direct Staff to get together with Mr. Montgomery, but we
would have to check the Minutes to be sure - I think we directed Staff to get together
with Mr. Montgomery and develop this Agreement."
Deputy Mayor Blake added, "Wouldn't it be normal and typical for the individual upon
which the Development Order has the effect, has a moment to review and make comment
on the event that perhaps it doesn't accurately reflect some action that we took?"
Furthermore, Deputy Mayor Blake noted, "With some of the conditions we have put on
this property for that use, I think it is appropriate to give Mr. Montgomery an opportunity
to actually contact and talk with the City Manager or the City Attorney and ask any
questions relating to the Development Order, to make sure that he fully understands it."
"I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE POSTPONE ITEM '207'
UNTIL THE SECOND REGULAR MEETING IN MARCH, AND DIRECT
STAFF TO BE AVAILABLE FOR MR. MONTGOMERY TO RESPOND TO ANY
QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS HE MAY HAVE." MOTION BY DEPUTY
MAYOR BLAKE. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS.
DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
DEPUTYMAYORBLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
AWARDS AND PRESENTATIONS
AWARDS AND PRESENTATIONS
100. Office Of The Mayor
Presents "The State Of The City" Address.
Mayor Bush presented his "State ofthe City" address.
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CONSENT AGENDA
CONSENT
200. Office Of The City Manager
Requests Approval For A Supplemental Appropriation Of $7,500.00 And
Authorization To Enter Into An Agreement With RCC Consultants.
Discussion ensued with Ms. Joanne Dalka, Director, Information Services Department.
Commissioner Krebs stated, "I am not certain that just answering phones is our only
problem, as far as communication is concerned." Commissioner Krebs added, "Two (2)
people have approached me about calling and even leaving messages and not getting
called back."
Ms. Dalka stated, "If there are reports of people not returning phone calls, that is an
administrative issue, in my opinion." Commissioner Krebs then said, "So what are we
going to do about that." Manager McLemore noted, "We will deal with that, as part of
the overall solution."
Commissioner Krebs further noted, "From what I am reading here, this is one issue, but
then there is another issue and - to Joanne's (Dalka) point it could be administrative also,
and I just want to make sure we direct that also."
Commissioner Donald A. Gilmore added, "My comments go along with the other two (2)
Commissioners. "
Discussion.
Commissioner Krebs inquired of Ms. Dalka, "Have you looked into the product called
'Blackberry'?" Ms. Dalka responded, "Yes, and I am actually in the process of putting
all that information together, so that everyone will have it." Ms. Dalka stated, "I would
like to see that."
CONSENT
201. Utility Department
Requesting Permission To Purchase One (1) Ford F-150 (112 Ton Pickup Truck,
4x4) By Piggybacking Off Of Florida Sheriff's Association Bid #04-12-0823 With
Don Reid Ford.
This Agenda Item was not discussed.
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CONSENT
202. Public Works Department
Requesting City Commission Approval To Enter Into A Contract For The
Construction Of Doran Drive And State Road 434 Intersection Improvements.
Discussion.
CONSENT
203. Public Works Department - Stormwater Division
Requests A Supplemental Appropriation And Authorization To Enter Into An
Agreement With CPH Engineers To Provide Engineering Services In The
Preparation Of Documents For The Tuskawilla Road Drainage System
Improvements Located At The Outfall To Lake Jesup.
Brief discussion.
CONSENT
204. Public Works Department
Requesting City Commission Approval To Enter Into A Contract For The Design
Of The City Hall Expansion.
Deputy Mayor Blake asked Manager McLemore, "Have we ever done - square footage
study per person?" With further discussion, Deputy Mayor Blake then inquired, "Have
we instead of looking to build-out this new section, have we ever looked at what it might
cost to reconfigure the square footage that we already own - because when I walk
through City Hall, I am not convinced that the walls are in the right place for where we
are today."
Tape 1/Side B
Manager McLemore said, "Can we go through that analysis, we can do that - we can do
that and kind of - document that."
CONSENT
205. Public Works Department
Requesting City Commission Approval To Enter Into A Contract For The
Construction Of The Deceleration Lane At Moss Road For Eastbound State Road
434.
There was no discussion on this Agenda Item.
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CONSENT
206. Office Of The City Clerk
Requesting Approval Of The February 14,2005 Regular Meeting Minutes.
No discussion.
CONSENT
207. Office Of The City Attorney
Approve Final Development Order Regarding Eagle Bay Wood Products, Inc.
This Agenda Item was handled at the conclusion of "Public Input".
"MOVE TO APPROVE CONSENT AGENDA...." DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE
ADDED, "...LESS [CONSENT AGENDA] ITEM '207'." MAYOR BUSH
STATED, "MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA WITH THE
EXCEPTION OF '207' WHICH HAS BEEN RESCHEDULED." MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER GILMORE."
DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
INFORMATIONAL AGENDA
INFORMATIONAL
300. Community Development Department
Advising The City Commission Of The Status Of Various Current Planning
Projects.
Brief discussion.
INFORMATIONAL
301. Public Works Department
Advising The City Commission Of The Status Of Various Capital Improvement
Projects.
This Agenda Item was not discussed.
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INFORMATIONAL
302. Utility Department
Informing The City Commission Of A Notice Of Publication Of A Violation Of A
Drinking Water Standard.
With discussion, Commissioner Krebs said, "What can be done to make it better and _
quicker." Mr. Kip Lockcuff, P.E., Director, Public Works/Utility Department said, "We
could talk to the Lab."
With discussion on the advertisement and handling telephone calls, Mayor Bush
suggested, "Maybe you could have an additional person there to cover his phone when he
is going to be gone?" Mr. Lockcuffnoted, "We will try to make sure somebody is there."
Commissioner Gilmore said, "I think it would be nice to indicate - that this was not
found at the Water Treatment Plant." With more discussion on the advertisement, Mr.
Lockcuff noted that at this point, he could not change the advertisement scheduled for
publication in tomorrow's newspaper. Commissioner Gilmore added, "I would like to
see the distinction made."
Mayor Bush inquired, "Is it on our W ebsite?" Mayor Bush then added, "But we could
put it on our Website." Mr. Lockcuff replied, "Sure." Mayor Bush then noted, "And
maybe an explanation as such as the Commission has indicated it will go along with that
verifying - where the sample was taken, etceteras; that way - Commissioners, you get
calls, you could refer people to the Website for the official explanation."
Mayor Bush asked, "Can we have a Motion to approve the Informational Agenda Items?"
"SO MOVED." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. SECONDED BY
DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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PUBLIC HEARINGS AGENDA
PUBLIC HEARINGS
400. Community Development Department - Planning Division
Requests The Commission As A Corrective Action, Hold A Public Hearing For
Second Reading! Adoption Of Ordinance 2005-04, A Small Scale Comprehensive
Plan Amendment Changing The Current Future Land Use Map (FLUM)
Designation From "Low Density Residential" To "Commercial" For One (1) Parcel
Located At The Northeast Corner Of Parkstone Boulevard And SR [State Road)
434, Within The Parkstone PUD (Planned Unit Development). Parkstone Had A
"Mixed Use" Future Land Use Map (FLUM) Designation At The Time The Project
Was Being Master Planned In 1995. At Some Point The FLUM (Future Land Use
Map) Was Changed To "Low Density Residential" Which Was Then Formally
Adopted By The Commission And Submitted To DCA (Department of Community
Affairs) With The Adoption Of The Comprehensive Plan By Ordinance 2001-55.
Attorney Garganese read Ordinance 2005-04 by "Title" only.
Ms. Eloise Sahlstrom, AICP, ASLA, Senior Planner, Community Development
Department spoke on this Agenda Item.
Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
No one spoke.
Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
"MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM '400'." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER
KREBS. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER GILMORE. DISCUSSION.
MAYOR BUSH SAID, "MOTION TO APPROVE AND MOVE TO SECOND
READING."
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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PUBLIC HEARINGS
401. Community Development Department - Planning Division
Requests The Commission Hold A Public Hearing For First Reading Of Ordinance
2005-06, Which Rezones 11.028 Acres (More Or Less), Located Along SR [State
Road] (Across From Doran Drive) From "A-I" Agricultural (Seminole County) To
"Town Center" (City Of Winter Springs).
Mayor Bush stated, "Can we have a Motion to read by 'Title' only."
"SO MOVED." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. MAYOR BUSH
STATED, "SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER GILMORE." DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
DEPUTYMAYORBLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Attorney Garganese read Ordinance 2005-06 by "Title" only.
Ms. Sahlstrom briefly introduced this Agenda Item and stated that the "LP A [Local
Planning Agency] in their Minutes did speak at length about concerns about traffic and so
forth which are included in your Agenda Item and they did want me to bring up before
you - they were concerned about such things as the Fire Department having adequate
access for the Fire Department and so forth."
Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
No one spoke.
Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
Discussion.
Commissioner Gilmore noted that regarding fire truck access, "P and Z [Planning and
Zoning Board Local Planning Agency] specifically requested that the Fire Chief confirm
that they have the equipment to traverse the streets. Have we done that?" Ms. Sahlstrom
spoke on the Concept Plan under review, and added, "That will be done but it has not
been done yet because we have not received any Submittals from the Applicant, but yes,
the Fire Chiefwill be very involved in the discussions."
"MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM '401'." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER
McGINNIS. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER KREBS. DISCUSSION.
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VOTE:
COMMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
DEPUTYMAYORBLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
402. Community Development Department - Planning Division
Requests The City Commission Consider A Waiver Request By Ayube Khan From
Section 20-486. (4) f. To The Maximum Copy Area For A Building Mounted Single
Tenant Identification Sign For The New Bruster's Real Ice Cream Shop In The SR
[State Road] 434 Redevelopment Area.
Mr. John Baker, AICP, Senior Planner, Community Development Department presented
this Agenda Item.
Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
No one spoke.
Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
Discussion.
Mr. Ayube (Benson) Kahn, 1464 Wescott Loop, Winter Springs, Florida: spoke on this
Agenda Item.
"I WILL MOVE THAT WE ACCEPT THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT'S
RECOMMENDATION FOR A SIGN - 51.75 SQUARE FEET." MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. MAYOR BUSH STATED, "SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER BLAKE." DISCUSSION.
DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE SAID, "ARE WE REGULATING THE COLOR -
THERE WAS DISCUSSION AT THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT THAT THE
BACKGROUND WOULD BE THE SAME COLOR AS THE BACKGROUND OF
THE SIGN." MR. BAKER NOTED, "THE BACKGROUND WASN'T AN
ISSUE..." DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE THEN SAID, "...WE CAN'T USE RED
LETTERS OR BLACK LETTERS." MR. KAHN SAID, "I AM REQUESTING
ONE OF THOSE - THE BOTTOM ONE BE PLACED AGAINST THE
BUILDING IN THOSE COLORS." DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE SAID, "THE
BACKGROUND OF THE SIGN WILL BE THE SAME COLOR AS THE SIDE -
THE BLACK LETTERS WILL BE ON THE SAME COLOR AS THE SIDE."
MR. KAHN SAID, "CORRECT."
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VOTE:
DEPUTYMAYORBLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
403. Community Development Department
Presents A Request For A Conditional Use Within The City Of Winter Springs RC-
1 Zoning District (Residential Rustic FLU [Future Land Use] Designation), To
Allow A 1,728 Square Foot Detached Accessory Structure (Horse Barn) To Replace
The Existing Barn Behind The Residence At 405 Moss Road.
Mr. Baker opened the discussion on this Agenda Item and presented photographs.
Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
Mr. John Scribner, 405 South Moss Road, Winter Springs, Florida: briefly addressed the
City Commission.
Mayor Bush said to Mr. Scribner, "You are in favor?" Mr. Scribner stated, "Yes Sir, I
am. "
Tape 2/Side A
Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
Discussion.
"I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION WE APPROVE THE CONDITIONAL
USE PERMIT, SUBJECT TO STAFF'S FINDINGS." MOTION BY DEPUTY
MAYOR BLAKE. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER GILMORE.
DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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PUBLIC HEARINGS
404. Office Of The City Manager
ADD-ON
Requesting The City Commission To Adopt The First Reading Of Ordinance
Number 2005-10 Amending The City's Transportation Impact Fee Ordinance,
Chapter 9, Article VIII Of The City Code.
Commissioner McGinnis left the dais at approximately 8:05 p.m.
Mayor Bush stated, "Do we have a Motion to read by 'Title' only."
"SO MOVED." MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE. SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER GILMORE. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
Commissioner McGinnis returned to the dais at approximately 8:06 p.m.
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Attorney Garganese read Ordinance 2005-10 by "Title" only.
Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
No one spoke.
Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
Mr. Terry M Zaudtke, P.E., CPH Engineers, Inc., 1117 East Robinson Street, Orlando,
Florida: and Mr. Lockcuff discussed Agenda Item materials with the City Commission.
Discussion.
"I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE MOVE THIS ON TO AN
ADOPTION HEARING AT OUR NEXT MEETING." MOTION BY DEPUTY
MAYOR BLAKE. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS.
DISCUSSION.
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VOTE:
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
DEPUTYMAYORBLAKE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Mr. Zaudtke noted, "The only changes made in here were the ones requested that night at
the - Workshop." Mr. Zaudtke added, "Chelsea Woods - we did change the number of
units there."
REGULAR AGENDA
REGULAR
500. Community Development Department - Planning Division
Requests The City Commission Approve The Final Engineering/Site Plan For The
1.4112 Acre Tuscawilla Town Square (Which Includes Tuscany Restaurant)
Located At 1301 Winter Springs Boulevard At Northern Way And Gary Hillery
Drive.
Ms. Sahlstrom spoke on this Agenda Item and noted, "This is to approve two (2)
additional buildings - actually it says three (3)."
With discussion, Ms. Sahlstrom noted that regarding the four foot (4') decorative wall-
"That wall does obscure the parking area - it does not go around the entire lot."
Mr. Gary Hillery, 1220 Winter Springs Boulevard, Winter Springs, Florida: noted his
comments regarding the four foot (4') wall.
Deputy Mayor Blake said, "On Gary Hillery Drive, putting in parking all along both
edges or one edge?" Manager McLemore said, "I thought it was both sides."
Next, Deputy Mayor Blake then said to Mr. Lockcuff, "We have two things we have to
talk about on that - first off, is whether or not it is legal to park there. 1 know the Town
Center we have - and some language in the Code whereby it actually supersedes our
other Code if it is not silent, but over here, 1 think 12-65. would prohibit parking on the
roadway - on the right-of-way in that area so we would have to do something about that,
just as a housekeeping issue going forward."
Deputy Mayor Blake then said, "My concern over and above that however is what
contribution the City would be making to provide parking for a private business
venture?" Deputy Mayor Blake further asked, "This hundred and fifty thousand dollars
($150,000.00) includes parking? Or is it just the roadway improvements and parking is
being picked up by the Developer?"
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Manager McLemore responded, "I believe that that is for the full construction of the
road." Deputy Mayor Blake then asked, "Including the parking?" Manager McLemore
said, "Including the parking right - including a portion of the roadway surface." Deputy
Mayor Blake said, "How much extra is it with the parking on it, as opposed to not placing
the parking on it - do you have a cost differential?" Manager McLemore noted, "I am
sure we could get to it."
Mr. Alec String, 215 Rolling Wood Trail, Altamonte Springs, Florida: addressed the City
Commission and stated, "We will be getting three (3) firm bids on the roadway and it will
be broken down into sections, including the parking, the outfall- and it's probably going
to be pushing 150 to do the whole thing." Mr. String added, "It will potentially be more
than 150 to do the road, the parking, the retention and the outfall."
Regarding the wall, Mr. String remarked, "There were two things that the community
asked for - one was to move the dumpster to the 7-11, which we did - moved it away
from the residential house, from the residential area and also build a four foot (4') wall to
shield the lights. We did that. That is the extent of the wall. Don't forget, we are going
to be doing an all brick - there is no asphalt on this property, all the driving surfaces is
brick - the roofs are made out of metal. We're doing a lot of other things that are going
to elevate the look of this, rather than walling it in. So, we can't do everything but I think
the wall was a reasonable fix to Mr. [Gary] Hillery's concern."
Mayor Bush said to Mr. String, "You are saying the wall that you proposed actually
shields the lights from Mr. [Gary] Hillery's home?" Mr. String stated, "Absolutely, and
that was done based on a concern that Mr. [Gary] Hillery brought up in front of the
Commission." Deputy Mayor Blake said, "I don't think that was here." Mr. String said,
"Okay. He certainly brought it up to me that there was two (2) concerns and that's the
only two (2) concerns I've heard from the residents of Tuscawilla. One was the
dumpster, and two (2) was the four foot (4') wall. And they're both on the plan."
Discussion.
Commissioner Krebs referenced Attachment 'B' - there was a conversation that we had
had regarding planting or improvements along the retention pond, again on the 7-11, and
if you look in the next paragraph, 'Mr. String stated, Absolutely. And you will see that
on - Landscaping Plans and the Final Engineering'." Ms. Sahlstrom explained, "The City
would be preparing those documents." Mr. Lockcuff added, "We hoped to bring it back
to the TLBD [Tuscawilla Lighting and Beautification District] since it is contiguous to
their improvements."
Discussion.
Ms. Sahlstrom said, "If you in fact do want the wall to extend around, it will have a
significant impact on the existing trees that currently Mr. String is intending to save."
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Commissioner McGinnis said, "I am quite comfortable with the wall that is only in place
where it would impact the residents."
"I MOVE THAT THE WALL ONLY BE AS PRESENTED TO US TONIGHT, IN
THOSE AREAS WHERE IT WOULD ONLY IMPACT THE NEIGHBORS AND
NOT BE AN ENTlREL Y WALLED PROJECT." MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS.
DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE SAID, "SO THERE WOULD BE NINETY FEET (90')
OF WALL TOTAL - NINETY FEET (90') OF FOUR FEET (4') HIGH WALL; IT
WOULD BE LOCATED AS IT IS SHOWN ON THE PLAN ALONG THE
WESTERLY BOUNDARY IN FRONT OF THOSE NINE (9) PARKING SPACES,
ONLY - NOWEHERE ELSE." COMMISSIONER McGINNIS ADDED, "ONLY
AS PRESENTED TO US ON OUR PLANS."
THEN, DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE SAID, "IT WOULD HAVE THAT NINETY
FEET (90') OF WALL RIGHT THERE, THAT I AM SHOWING WHICH IS ON
THE WESTERN EDGE, IN FRONT OF THE PARKING SPACES THAT FACE
NORTHERN WAY ONLY. THERE WOULD BE NO WALL CONSTRUCTED
ANY PLACE ELSE ON THE PROPERTY EXCEPT FOR SURROUNDING THE
DUMPSTER AS REQUIRED BY CODE. THERE WOULD BE NO OTHER
WALL OF ANY HEIGHT."
SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE. DISCUSSION.
Tape 2/Side B
FURTHER DISCUSSION.
DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE SAID TO MR. STRING, "IS THERE ANY
POSSIBILITY OF HAVING SOME KIND OF A WALL EXTENDED DOWN
THIS WAY TO KEEP SOME OF THOSE BACK-DOOR KITCHEN ACTIVITIES
A LITTLE CLOSER TO THE OPERATION?" MR. STRING SAID, "WE
COULD POSSIBLY PUT A MASONRY WALL THERE, INSTEAD OF A
FENCED WALL."
DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE THEN ADDED, "IF THERE IS SOME WAY TO TRY
AND BUFFER THE OPERATIONS - OF THE KITCHEN WHICH WE ALL
WILL PROBABLY AGREE IS NOT THE PRIMEST OF REAL ESTATE, THEN I
THINK THAT WOULD PROBABLY REDUCE SOME OF THE IMPACT FOR
HIM." MR. STRING, "I WOULD AGREE TO THAT IF YOU HAVE A
SUGGESTION ON HOW WE COULD DO THAT."
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"I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE AN AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION TO
INCLUDE ADDITIONAL BUFFERING ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE
TUSCANY'S RESTAURANT OPERATION AS WAS DISCUSSED." DEPUTY
MAYOR BLAKE ADDED, "AN ATTEMPT TO DO SOMETHING TO PROVIDE
MORE OF A BUFFER FROM THE OPERATIONS FOR THE ADJOINING
RESIDENCES THAN CURRENTLY EXIST." AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION
BY DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER KREBS.
DISCUSSION.
VOTE: (ON THE AMENDMENT)
DEPUTYMAYORBLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
VOTE: (ON THE MAIN MOTION, AS AMENDED)
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
DEPUTYMAYORBLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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501.1. Office Of The City Manager
Requesting The City Commission To Adopt Resolution Number 2005-09
Authorizing The East Rural Transitional Area Development Code Project.
Manager McLemore introduced this Agenda Item.
Commissioner McGinnis said to Manager McLemore, "How are we going to get the
information out to the stakeholders." Manager McLemore responded, "What we would
do for you is generate a property owner list and bring it back to you."
Discussion.
Commissioner McGinnis said, 'This is news - this ought to be in the news."
Further discussion.
"I MAKE A MOTION TO PASS OR ADOPT RESOLUTION NUMBER 2005-09."
MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER
McGINNIS. DISCUSSION.
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MANAGER McLEMORE SAID, "WE WILL BRING YOU THE PROPERTY
OWNER'S LIST AT THE NEXT MEETING."
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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501.2. Office Of The City Manager
Requesting The City Commission To Authorize The City Manager To Enter Into A
Contract With W.R.T. (Wallace Roberts & Todd, LLC.) Planning And Design To
Perform A Study Of Alternative Development Patterns For The East Rural Area As
Provided In Resolution 2005-09, And The Development Of An East Rural Area
Transitional District Code.
Manager McLemore briefly addressed this Agenda Item.
"MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM '501.2'." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER
McGINNIS. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER KREBS. DISCUSSION.
DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE SAID, "AREN'T WE AUTHORIZING THE
EXPENDITURE OF SIXTY THOUSAND DOLLARS ($60,000.00) FOR ALL
COSTS OF WHICH FIFfY THOUSAND [DOLLARS] ($50,000.00) IS FOR THE
AGREEMENT?" MANAGER McLEMORE STATED, "RIGHT
SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATION SHOULD BE SIXTY THOUSAND
[DOLLARS] ($60,000.00)."
VOTE:
DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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502. Community Development Department
Requests The Commission Consider A Revised Conceptual Development Plan And
Development Agreement For A Unit Town-House Development On 17.15 Acres In
The Town Center, Located On The South Side Of Orange Avenue, Immediately
Adjacent To The Trail (South) And City Recreation Facilities (West).
Mr. Baker spoke on a summary of this project that he had just passed out. Mr. Baker
then stated, "We have for you tonight a Development Agreement, and there are a number
of things that are covered there. There are some items that I have listed that are
deviations from your Code. For example, the roadway system is different than the Town
Center map that Dover Kohl did use before. We don't see a big problem with that. We
don't see a problem with that as a matter of fact. Let me point out that we don't have
connection to the high school; I don't think the High School would give us connection.
We do have the emergency access here. This was shown as a roadway; here we have it
as a shared access alley between - units, back up to us on this side; these folks would also
have access."
With discussion, Deputy Mayor Blake asked, "Has anybody had any discussions
whatsoever with the school?"
Further discussion ensued.
Tape 3/Side A
With discussion, Deputy Mayor Blake stated, "What is the expected timeframe on that -
for Orange Avenue to connect to State Road 434?" Manager McLemore responded, "We
really haven't nailed that one yet, we can certainly do that." Discussion. Regarding
construction vehicle access, Deputy Mayor Blake stated, "We don't want that traffic
going down Tuskawilla Road." Deputy Mayor Blake added, "That is a serious issue that
we need to discuss."
Mr. Tom Corkery, 759 Bear Creek Circle, Winter Springs, Florida: commented on the
level of service.
Discussion.
Deputy Mayor Blake remarked, "We need to take a real close look at Orange Avenue -
timing.. ." Manager McLemore stated, "... We can do that..." Deputy Mayor Blake
continued, ".. .And maybe check out our priority list here because that is going to be a
real issue for folks down here."
Further discussion ensued with Mr. Lockcuff.
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Commissioner Gilmore mentioned, "I have the concern that down the road - somebody is
going to have some problems with drainage from all of this going - heading to Lake Jesup
and I would certainly hope that the City is aware ofthat and we aren't stuck with that cost
- I hope you are looking at it as these projects are approved." Mr. Lockcuffnoted, "Yes,
Sir."
Mayor Bush then said to Manager McLemore, "In Commissioner Blake's concern about
Orange Avenue, can the completion of Orange Avenue be expedited?" Manager
McLemore responded, "It certainly can be expedited - want me to come back to you with
the strategies to do that?" With discussion, Mayor Bush summarized the most recent
comments as "Expedite Spine Road as well as... Deputy Mayor Blake said, "... Need
to... Manager McLemore said, "...We'll come back." Deputy Mayor Blake added, 'We
need to look at priorities on each of these different ones, that especially are being affected
by this new development and to determine which one has to come first, how soon, or can
we just do them both." Mayor Bush noted, "The Commission is in agreement. We have
consensus on that."
With discussion on the grading, Deputy Mayor Blake stated, "I don't understand how you
can't raise those units up by six inches (6"), front and back."
Mr. Dave Schmitt, P.E., Vice President, Land Development of Central Florida, Levitt and
Sons, LLC, 1479 Hartford Run Drive, Orlando, Florida: as the Engineer of Record, Mr.
Schmitt spoke on the issue of grade and stated, "When you have a street like this, you
have a building like this, you may have six inches (6") on one side, you may have thirty-
six inches (36") on the other side, that's where we're at for the Variance on that criteria."
Deputy Mayor Blake then commented to Mr. Schmitt, "So, are you telling me that - this
alley right here, if I am looking at these units - I have seven inches (7") - on this side of
the elevation, above grade, and on this side I have how many inches?" Deputy Mayor
Blake then said, "So, we're talking about the building unit, that it may be seven inches
(7") - down here and thirty-six inches (36") up here? Is that what you are saying?" Mr.
Schmitt noted, "Correct." Deputy Mayor Blake then said, "So if you raise this to twelve
(12), then you are going to raise that to 42 (forty-two)?" Mr. Schmitt replied, "Correct."
Deputy Mayor Blake then noted, "Is that because by design you have got a single slab on
the whole building?" Mr. Schmitt said, "Correct." Deputy Mayor Blake added, "Is that
what you are doing?" Mr. Schmitt replied, "Correct."
Furthermore, Deputy Mayor Blake said to Mr. Schmitt, "In terms of construction
engineering, the maximum differential you can have between floors - from one unit to
the next unit is eight inches (8")?" Mr. Schmitt replied, "Correct."
With further comments, Mr. Schmitt noted, "If it could work with the grade differential,
we would make them all twenty-four inches (24"), but it is not physically possible to get
that width - the grades on the site, even with your stepping abilities."
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Ms. Pamela Stacy, Architectural Designer, Canin Associates, 500 Delaney Avenue,
Orlando, Florida: briefly remarked on the grade.
Manager McLemore commented on noting this for the Record.
Mr. Corkery then commented that "This is the best with the problems I have with the -
property, that I can meet those standards; so we're at seven inches (7") - six inches (6")
to twelve inches (12") is seven percent (7%), is the best I could get out of my Engineers."
Discussion.
Further discussion ensued on the Tot Lot being fenced in.
Tape 3/Side B
"MOTION TO APPROVE, CONSIDERING THE EXTENUATING
CIRCUMSTANCES AS ESTABLISHED BY THE ENGINEERING FIRM."
MOTION BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER
GILMORE. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
DEPUTYMAYORBLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Attorney Garganese spoke for the Record noted that "Mr. Baker did mention that there
are a few other deviations, he enumerated them - I just need to incorporate those into this
Development Agreement before everyone signs off on it."
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503. Office Of The City Manager
Requesting Authorization From The City Commission To Execute An Agreement
With The Florida Housing Finance Corporation To Provide DISASTER RELIEF
HOME ASSISTANCE PROGRAM FUNDS To Fund Repairs To Homes In Winter
Springs Caused By Recent Hurricanes, And A Contract With Meridian Community
Services Group, Inc. To Administer The Program On Behalf Of The City, And
Adopt Resolution Number 2005-11 Authorizing The City Manager To Execute
Documents On Behalf Of The City.
Manager McLemore introduced a representative of Meridian Community Services
Group, Inc., Mr. Calvin Knowles.
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Mr. Calvin Knowles, Director of Community Development, Meridian Community
Services Group, Inc., 4905 3lh Street South, #352, St. Petersburg, Florida: gave a
presentation to the City Commission on this project.
Commissioner McGinnis said, "My one concern is, are we really getting the information
out, because we don't have a local newspaper?" Mr. Knowles stated, "Certainly - that's
absolutely something that - is a local issue." Commissioner McGinnis added, "Utility
bills."
Commissioner Krebs asked who monitors Mr. Knowles' company and related reports?
Mr. Knowles stated, "You certainly have every right to - status reports." Commissioner
Krebs then remarked, "So you will give us reports?" Mr. Knowles said, "I will give you
reports since you requested, yes. And the Agency requires monthly reports which we
would submit on behalf of the City and the City would be copied on those monthly
reports."
Discussion.
Attorney Garganese suggested, "My recommendation to the City would be to make sure
there was an Indemnity and Hold Harmless" Clause added to the Contract. Mr. Knowles
stated, "That is something that we can review."
"I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION WE AUTHORIZE THE CITY
MANAGER AND THE CITY ATTORNEY TO ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT
WITH - MERIDIAN COMMUNITY SERVICES GROUP, INC. SUBJECT TO
PROVISIONS BEING ADDED INTO THE CONTRACT THAT WOULD
PROVIDE HOLD HARMLESS PROTECTION FROM THE CITY OF WINTER
SPRINGS IN THE EVENT THAT THERE IS AN ERROR MADE ON BEHALF
OF MERIDIAN [COMMUNITY SERVICES GROUP, INC.]." MOTION BY
DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER KREBS.
DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
DEPUTYMAYORBLAKE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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504. Public Works Department
Providing The City Commission Information On The Trees For The (State Road)
434 Improvement Project (Village Walk).
(Postponed From The February lih, 2005 Regular City Commission Meeting)
Mr. Steven Richart, Urban Beautification Coordinator, Public Works Department
presented this Agenda Item, being assisted by Mr. Michael Mingea,
ArboristlEnvironmental Inspector, Community Development Department addressed the
City Commission on this Agenda Item.
Discussion.
Commissioner McGinnis said, "Can I assume that if plantings are made and they don't
make it, they will be replaced immediately?" Mr. Richart responded, "Yes."
Further discussion.
Mayor Bush stated, "Can we have a Motion?"
"SO MOVED - I ENDORSE THEM. I SUPPORT THIS." MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER KREBS.
DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Mayor Bush stated, "We need a Motion to continue - it is eleven o'clock."
"SO MOVED." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER KREBS. SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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REPORTS
REPORTS
600. Office Of The City Attorney - Anthony A. Garganese, Esquire
No Report.
REPORTS
601. Office Of The City Manager - Ronald W. McLemore
Manager McLemore spoke about a meeting with the Water Management District and
working with Representative David Mealor on this.
Next, Manager McLemore mentioned a Letter from Shane Doran noting his concerns
with changing the name of the Town Center and requested that any name change be
delayed. Manager McLemore noted, "I will make sure you get that and then maybe we
can talk about it at the next Meeting.
REPORTS
602. Office Of The City Clerk - Andrea Lorenzo-Luaces
City Clerk Andrea Lorenzo-Luaces mentioned tomorrow's Finance Seminar Summary
being facilitated by Ken Small with the Florida League of Cities which begins at Noon.
City Clerk Lorenzo-Luaces also noted next Monday's (March 7th, 2005) Workshop on
Cell Towers.
REPORTS
603. Commission Seat One - Robert S. Miller
Absent.
REPORTS
604. Commission Seat Two/Deputy Mayor - Michael S. Blake
A. Discussion Of Network Access For Commissioners
Deputy Mayor Blake noted, "Because we have Network access, meaning the Internal
Network - there are certain things we are not able to do. One of those things is to send
and receive email- the question is do we need access to the Internal Network because if
we don't, we have the ability to send and receive email."
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Deputy Mayor Blake continued, "What I am asking is that we make a decision to not
have access to the Internal Network."
Tape 4/Side A
Commissioner Krebs said, "I agree." No objections were noted and Deputy Mayor Blake
said to Manager McLemore, "If you could let Joanne [Dalka] know then what our
decision was."
B. Discussion Of Wireless Broadband
Next, Deputy Mayor Blake mentioned that "The City of St. Cloud is putting in place
wireless access city-wide where all residences, all businesses within the City will have
free wireless access - to them." Deputy Mayor Blake noted that Brighthouse Networks
"Bundles their products such that their shifting costs from cable side into the Internet side
which avoids all the Communication Services Taxes."
Deputy Mayor Blake then stated, "I would like to at least look into it to see how they are
doing it, who else is doing it, does it work." Deputy Mayor Blake added, "In order to
find that out, we need to direct Ron [McLemore] to have Staff take a little bit of time and
look into it and bring it back to us."
Commissioner Krebs said, "I would like to know how they are doing it." Commissioner
McGinnis stated, "Sure." Mayor Bush noted, "I think that is a good idea. One of the
things that just came to mind if the City did take that over - what kind of liability would
we be assuming if someone is running their business on this and our system goes down?"
Mayor Bush added, "I think it is a good idea to look into it, so yes, I think the
Commission is in agreement with that recommendation."
Lastly, Deputy Mayor Blake noted a recent learning expenence related to Fire
Department techniques.
REPORTS
605. Commission Seat Three - Donald A. Gilmore
No Report.
REPORTS
606. Commission Seat Four - Sally McGinnis
Commissioner McGinnis mentioned her concern with on-street parking.
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With discussion, Commissioner McGinnis said, "I would like for us to look again, have
input perhaps, a Traffic Consultant, a Planner, somebody - bring us up to date, into the
loop on on-street parking." Manager McLemore remarked, "If you're at a point in time
now when you're willing to deal with it, be happy to bring Walter [Kulash] - back."
Commissioner McGinnis commented, "I would like to." Deputy Mayor Blake mentioned
not being in favor of this. Mayor Bush noted, "Commissioner Blake has not supported
it." Commissioner Krebs said, "I would like to hear it." Commissioner Gilmore stated,
"I don't think it is safe." Mayor Bush remarked, "I don't know if we need a Consultant
to maybe come up with some alternatives, maybe Code Enforcement has some ideas that
can be handled through Staff to accommodate."
With further discussion, Commissioner McGinnis added, "There is a difference between
overnight parking perhaps and if I am going to go visit a friend." Commissioner Krebs
said, "I still think that we have to have some way to accommodate even overnight
parking. "
Commissioner McGinnis said to Captain Glenn Tolleson, Police Department, "I would
like to hear what the Police Department as a whole - discuss it with the Chief - what
other cities do, what some of your thoughts are."
Commissioner Krebs mentioned, "I would like to find out too while we are at it, that
since you believe it - downgrades an area, where we have supporting data for that too."
Commissioner McGinnis said, "Yes." Commissioner Gilmore noted, "I am in favor of
the Police Department coming back with their suggestion."
Next, Commissioner McGinnis noted that at the last City Commission Meeting, "Bob
Rucci spoke before us and asked how we wanted to handle the sign at the Paw Park."
Commissioner McGinnis added, "We need to just get back to him." Mayor Bush then
suggested, "I think Mr. McLemore needs to find out about where the sign is going to go."
Manager McLemore spoke of the sign and suggested to the City Commission, "Unless
you want to do something to honor this kid for his persistence in getting it done." Mayor
Bush said, "Yes, we can do that. Andrea [Lorenzo- Luaces] and I will take care of that
one." Mayor Bush added, "The Dog Park people will want to have some kind of a little
ceremony and I will be glad to go to it - and let the rest of you know."
Commissioner McGinnis then mentioned the resident who spoke under Public Input
tonight on the Cell Tower issue and remarked, "Is there anyway that anybody would
know we are going to have a Workshop on this?" Mayor Bush mentioned, "I told her."
Lastly, Commissioner McGinnis commented on David Drive and noted that "There may
be dwellings in the right-of-way, we should go and assess if that is true." Captain
Tolleson noted, "I am already working on it."
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REPORTS
607. Commission Seat Five - Joanne M. Krebs
Commissioner Krebs noted that the owner of Barnie's Coffee & Tea Company at the
Winter Springs Town Center is concerned with a large tree blocking his business and the
business next door.
Next, Commissioner Krebs added that the owner of Barnie's Coffee & Tea Company
"Wanted opportunities to bring his coffee here." Commissioner McGinnis added, "Are
we buying coffee from Barnie's?" Commissioner Krebs added, "I said 1 would mention
it to the Clerk." Mayor Bush added, "We'll turn that over to Andrea [Lorenzo-Luaces] -
1 agree with the Commissioner, we should try to give the merchants in the Town Center
business when we can." Commissioner McGinnis noted, "I think so."
With further discussion on the tree in front of the Barnie's Coffee & Tea Company at the
Winter Springs Town Center is concerned, Manager McLemore said, "This particular
tree was meant to be temporary." Manager McLemore added, "We just need to get it
moved." Commissioner McGinnis said, "I agree." Commissioner McGinnis said,
"Simple." Furthermore, Manager McLemore mentioned, "The intent was to put it down
at Magnolia Park, and we need to go on and do that."
Commissioner Krebs next asked Attorney Garganese whether notes written to herself on
her Tablet PC were Public Records. Attorney Garganese stated, "Once you disseminate
to somebody that information, then arguably that is a Public Record." Brief discussion.
Commissioner Krebs then said, "Opportunities to educate the public on anything
including Codes or anything like that - 1 think we are missing them. 1 think that if we
could in the future - that when we have events at Central Winds [Park] or within the City
maybe, like our Christmas Tree Lighting, and things like that, that we somehow put our
own booth or stand or something up about the City and offer information."
Commissioner Krebs further suggested ideas like "Have a time - to speak with a
Commissioner, or you can have just something with information, talking about Codes."
Furthermore, Commissioner Krebs noted, "I just think we are missing opportunities to
communicate to the residents, and 1 think that is what we need to be doing. We need to
find creative ways to do that." Mayor Bush added, "Mr. McLemore is working on that-
that very issue."
Next, Commissioner Krebs stated, "I need from Andrea [Lorenzo-Luaces] - 1 need
Applications for Oak Forest [Wall and Beautification District Advisory Committee] -
because Dick [Taylor] is leaving."
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Regarding State Road 434, Commissioner Krebs noted that "Last meeting when we were
leaving, Robert King was here and he was showing - me and some other Commissioners
some areas on a board out there and - it might have been the Future Land Use."
Commissioner Krebs added, Mr. King "Was talking about some natural resources that are
in an area in Winter Springs that we mayor may not be aware of, and we were talking
about developing or talking to - the Black Hammock - issue tonight, but there is also
some other natural resource features I think we have here that - we may not have
identified and I thought that if we could find - I don't know how we go about finding
those out, so I am asking you, how do we - do we know about them?"
Commissioner Krebs said, "I know that we are going to be developing that area and sure
would like to - know what is in that area and make sure we are on the right page."
Mayor Bush said to Commissioner Krebs, "Maybe you could come up during the day and
Mr. McLemore could get the appropriate Staff out there to look at that." Manager
McLemore noted, "I suspect we already know about it, but if we don't, we would like
to." Manager McLemore added, "1'11 give him a call."
Next, Commissioner Krebs asked, "We were talking about improving the Lobby, where
are we on that? And, aren't we going to have a Kiosk of some sort?" Brief discussion.
Lastly, Commissioner Krebs said to Manager McLemore, "Could you call Kevin
Gilliam?" Commissioner Krebs continued, "He lives over there by Fisher Road and
Williams Road - upset about some issues with Fisher Road and him not being able to
turn from one of the roundabouts, without turning illegally." Manager McLemore
remarked, "I can get the appropriate person to call him." Commissioner Krebs added,
"Can we get a sign out there." Manager McLemore noted, "I will need to talk to him and
see what his issue is first." With further comments, Manager McLemore said, "Be happy
to talk with him."
REPORTS
608. Office Of The Mayor - John F. Bush
Mayor Bush noted a document from Winter Springs High School and asked the City
Commission if they wanted to place an ad in this publication. With discussion,
Commissioner McGinnis said, "No, I don't." Deputy Mayor Blake remarked, "I just
think it is a dangerous precedent to start." Mayor Bush said, "Is the rest of the
Commission in agreement with that?" Commissioner McGinnis said, "Yes." No
Member of the City Commission noted their support of placing an ad in this publication.
Secondly, Mayor Bush stated, "I congratulate the Rotary on the dedication of the
Veteran's Memorial this past week."
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Thirdly, Mayor Bush noted, "I would like to see some name badges, especially for our
women Commissioners that indicate they are Commissioners." Mayor Bush said to City
Clerk Lorenzo-Luaces, "Could you take care of that?" With further discussion on name
badges, Mayor Bush said to Andrea [Lorenzo-Luaces], "Why don't you work it out and
show it to the two (2) Commissioners."
The fourth item that Mayor Bush noted was recent discussions with Seminole County
Commissioner Randy Morris and said, "There seems to be a reversal in what is going to
happen with Jetta Point, and - not only Commissioner Morris made the comment that -
'Are we interested in Soldier's Creek Park as well'?"
With further comments, Mayor Bush added, "I mentioned this to the Manager and
Commissioner Morris also brought this up, and he said, 'Why doesn't Winter Springs
annex up [State Road] 419 to [U.S. Highway] 17-92'?" Mayor Bush added, "Is that
something the Commission would want the Manager to pursue, to find out about?"
Commissioner McGinnis said, "Yes." Commissioner McGinnis added, "I think it is
worthy of a study." Mayor Bush noted, "Take a look at it and see if it would make sense
for us."
Fifth, on Wednesday, March 2, 2005 at 8:30 a.m., Mayor Bush remarked that he would
be at Indian Trails Middle School to present a Proclamation for the "Teacher of the
Year. "
Lastly, Mayor Bush mentioned that the Mayor's and Manager's Meeting is scheduled for
the 10th of March, at 7:30 a.m., at the Tuscawilla Country Club and noted that this group
may l~ok into the consolidation of services.
ADJOURNMENT
~~ Bush adjoumedthe Meeting at 11 :49 p.m.
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A LORENZO-LUACES, CMC
LERK
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NOTE: These Minutes were-approved at the March 14,2005 Regular City Commission Meeting.