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HomeMy WebLinkAbout2005 02 14 Consent 202 Approval January 24 Minutes CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING JANUARY 24, 2005 CALL TO ORDER The Regular Meeting of Monday, January 24,2005 of the City Commission was called to order by Mayor John F. Bush at 6:30 p.m. in the Commission Chambers of the Municipal Building (City Hall, 1126 East State Road 434, Winter Springs, Florida 32708). ROLL CALL: Mayor John F. Bush, present Deputy Mayor Michael S. Blake, present Commissioner Robert S. Miller, present Commissioner Donald A. Gilmore, present Commissioner Sally McGinnis, present Commissioner Joanne M. Krebs, present City Manager Ronald W. McLemore, present City Attorney Anthony A. Garganese, present The Pledge of Allegiance followed a moment of silence. Regarding "Agenda Changes", Mayor Bush noted that Public Hearing Agenda "Item '408' has been pulled at the request of the Applicant. As I understand it, there will be someone here who wishes to speak on this item, and we will let them." Deputy Mayor Michael S. Blake stated, "Point of Order" and spoke of procedures regarding the pulled Agenda Item. With further discussion on Public Hearings Agenda Item "408", Mayor Bush said to Mr. John Baker AICP, Senior Planner, Community Development Department, "Maybe when - Ms-.-.(Rachel) C~em8S,-.you--oouldhav(} a..talkwith-h€l'--aboot-thi~-Mr.-Rak€f--._~_., said, "Yes, Sir." .. PUBLIC INPUT Mr. Richard Slone, 2831 Chapelwood Court, Oviedo, Florida: addressed the City Commission on the upcoming "Winterfest" being held at St. Stephens Catholic Church. CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - JANUARY 24, 2005 PAGE 2 OF 32 Ms. Rachel Carpenter, 10925 SW 126111 Circle, Dunellon, Florida: spoke for the record on the David Drive property (Public Hearings Agenda Item "408") and said that the individual buying this property has said that he would possibly give Ms. Carpenter fifteen feet (15') which could be used for ingress/egress. Mayor Bush remarked to Ms. Carpenter that "If you want to get on the Public Record about this you would need to be at that Meeting as well to state your case." Ms. Carpenter inquired, "Can I send a letter?" Mayor Bush said, "Certainly." Commissioner Donald A. Gilmore said, "When you read the Application - it refers to lots of different property numbers; nothing coincides when you read it with the - drawing or the map, plot of the property. I think when that comes before us again, it would be good if there was an Agreement between that drawing and the descriptions and the verbal descriptions which are in the write-up." Commissioner Gilmore added, "When I look at the map that was provided, you can't find any correlation between the write-up and the map." Mayor Bush commented that "This is something that is going to be back before the Commission - I think February 14th." Mayor Bush added, "At that point, or before then, if this information is pertinent, I think the Commissioners need to see it." AWARDS AND PRESENTATIONS None. CONSENT AGENDA CONSENT 200. Information Services Department Requests That The Commission Approve Option 1 Of This Project, Authorize An ___m.Additional.Appropriation In The Amount Of $34,000.00 To Move Critical Telephone Communication Equipment Into City Facilities At Two Locations, And Authorize The City Manager To Enter Into A Contract With BellSouth To Complete This Project. Discussion ensued with Ms. Joanne Dalka, Director, Information Services Department, Commissioner Gilmore stated, "Do we have any long term plans to have it written and developed for redundancy?" Ms. Dalka stated, "Yes, but it just takes budgeted dollars. I can tell you it was not in our five (5) year plan." Commissioner Gilmore then said, "Are you going to come back at some time in the future - or is this suspected to be a problem?" Further discussion. CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - JANUARY 24, 2005 PAGE 3 OF 32 CONSENT 201. Parks And Recreation Department Requests That The City Commission Accept The Valve Of Grizzlies Coaches Time And Equipment In Central Winds Park Storm Recovery $9,150.00 For Payment Of $6,493.00 Which Was Due For The 2003 Partnership Fee. Commissioner Sally McGinnis stated, "I just want to commend the Parks and Recreation Department for taking the leadership and working successfully with the Grizzlies." Commissioner McGinnis added, "You did a goodjob!" CONSENT 202. Utility Department Requesting A Supplemental Appropriation From The Fund Balance Of The Utility Enterprise Fund For Vehicle Replacement. Discussion. CONSENT 203. Utility Department Requesting Authorization To Hire American Water Services To Perform Sanitary Sewer Line Rehab By Piggybacking Off Volusia County Project Number 02-B- 203BB. Discussion. CONSENT 204. Office Of The City Manager Resolution 2005-05 - A Resolution Of The City Commission Of The City Of Winter Springs, Florida, Respectfully Requesting Seminole County, Florida To Delay Construction Of The Cross Seminole Trail Connector Within Winter Springs. There was no discussion on this Agenda Item. CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - JANUARY 24, 2005 PAGE 4 OF 32 CONSENT 205. Office Of The City Manager Resolution 2005-06 - A Resolution Of The City Commission Of The City Of Winter Springs, Florida, Respectfully Requesting The Seminole County, Board Of Commissioner's Formal Endorsement To Locate A Seminole County Branch Library In The Winter Springs Town Center, And Scheduling Of A Referendum On The Funding Of The Seminole County Library System Expansion Program. Commissioner McGinnis said, "It refers to a Referendum. Would that be at the next scheduled Election or a Special Referendum?" Mayor Bush stated, "Referendum - that is one of the suggestions that the County would make to the County Commissioners." CONSENT 206. Office Of The City Manager Requesting Authority From The City Commission To Utilize The Room Behind The Commission Dias For Upcoming Procedures Related To The City's Records Management Program. With discussion on location and space constraints, Commissioner Robert S. Miller asked City Manager Ronald W. McLemore, "What is the status of that [City Hall] expansion?" Manager McLemore spoke of a review of Impact Fees and added, "We'll be coming back to you real soon with that - probably not at the next Meeting, but the Meeting after." Commissioner Miller added, "I would also like to see some thought given by Staff at some point - the Town Center is going to have a building which we originally had envisioned as being City Hall - we are obviously getting very cramped with space right now, but if we can get by with what we have for another two (2) years; at that time, I think what is going to take place downtown, ought to be a lot more clear than it right now and this whole exercise may not be a good thing to do at this point; but that is something I think the - City Manager has to bring back - a pro and con of doing this at all, at this . " pomt. CONSENT 207. Office Of The City Clerk Requesting Approval Of The January 10, 2005 City Commission Regular Meeting Minutes. This Agenda Item was not discussed. CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - JANUARY 24, 2005 PAGE 5 OF 32 "MOTION TO APPROVE CONSENT AGENDA." MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. DISCUSSION. VOTE: COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE DEPUTYMAYORBLAKE: AYE COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE MOTION CARRIED. .:..:. AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING INFORMATIONAL AGENDA ITEMS WERE DISCUSSED, BUT NOT NECESSARILY IN THE ORDER AS DOCUMENTED. .:. .:. INFORMATIONAL AGENDA INFORMATIONAL 300. Community Development Department Advising The City Commission Of The Status Of Various Current Planning Projects. Commissioner McGinnis said, "Thanks for 'Venetian Village' - you got that right." Commissioner McGinnis added, "On page 3 - under 'Building l' - could we just not say a 'Coffee Shop' - it is a Barnie's. Could we give it a name?" Commissioner Miller said, "I would like to see an Item included on our briefing every two (2) weeks, which gives a total of new roof tops going up, outside downtown, and also inside downtown - a running estimate." Manager McLemore~llggE:~1~~__"b.J_ any,jJoint in thepip~line, where _we__have____~__ proposed..." Commissioner Miller said, "...Yes." Mr. Kip Lockcuff, P.E., Acting Director, Community Development Department suggested, "A summary table." Commissioner Joanne M. Krebs added, "One that you can read." Commissioner Miller said, "Residential." CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - JANUARY 24, 2005 PAGE 6 OF 32 INFORMATIONAL 301. Public Works Department Providing The City Commission With Additional Information Regarding FDOT [Florida Department Of Transportation] Requirements For Median Tree Planting. Commissioner Miller said "What I had originally suggested that Staff bring back to us was - some distance to the - east and west of Tuskawilla [Road] - on [State Road] 434 which would be upgraded so we could put large trees in the median." Commissioner Miller suggested, "We could probably get away with - two thousand feet (2,000') to start; therefore, Item 'B', if we only did two thousand feet (2,000'), it would probably be less than one hundred thousand dollars ($100,000.00)." With discussion. Commissioner Miller then explained, "I would like us to have some information on what it would cost to do that." Furthermore, Commissioner Miller said, "I think you could probably get the cost down to under a hundred thousand dollars ($100,000.00), at least I would like to see you try." Mr. Lockcuff noted, "A hundred dollars ($100.00) a foot." With further discussion, Commissioner Miller noted, "Put it on the Agenda for the Meeting after next." Discussion ensued on the proposed landscaping for the Village Walk project and Commissioner McGinnis said, "Before this is finalized in any way, could we have a discussion on this?" Furthermore, Commissioner McGinnis said she would bring this issue up under her Seat tonight. Regarding the issues of trees in the Town Center, Commissioner Krebs said, "I just want to agree with Commissioner Miller and I believe - if you remember Commissioner Miller, that not only did we talk about or show trees on a lot of those renditions, there were benches - underneath trees where we would be able to sit - this was what was sold to all of us." Mayor Bush said, "On Item '301', it should be an Agenda Item at a future Meeting." CommISSIoner Kreosslafea;"Y-es.~--C6inrnissi6nef-Miller aIsos1aled;"7es:--X mbmIi---~----- from now - give them time to work on it." INFORMATIONAL 302. Community Development Department Wishes To Inform The City Commission Of A Minor Dimensional Change Along The SR [State Road] 434 Frontage At Heritage Park. Discussion ensued on plot and exhibit errors. CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - JANUARY 24, 2005 PAGE 7 OF 32 INFORMATIONAL 303. Utility Department Informing The City Commission On The Potable Water Usage For 2004. No discussion. INFORMATIONAL 304. Public Works Department Advising The City Commission Of The Status Of Various Capital Improvement Projects. Brief discussion. INFORMATIONAL 305. Public Works Department Providing The City Commission Information On The Area Around Fruitwood Lake. Prior to the Motion this Agenda Item was not discussed. Tape lISide B MOTION TO APPROVE THE INFORMATIONAL AGENDA. MAYOR BUSH STATED, "MOTION BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER GILMORE - AND THAT WOULD BE WITH THE ITEM '301' CONCERNING THE TREES BEING AN AGENDA ITEM." DISCUSSION. .:..:. AGENDA NOTE: PRIOR TO THE VOTE ON THE INFORMATIONAL AGENDA, THE FOLLOWING INFORMATIONAL AGENDA ITEM WAS DISCUSSED. .:..:. INFORMATIONAL AGENDA INFORMATIONAL 305. Public Works Department Providing The City Commission Information On The Area Around Fruitwood Lake. COMMISSIONER MILLER SAID, "REGARDING THE PARK AT FRUITWOOD LAKE - I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THAT REMOVED AND NOT BROUGHT BACK. CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - JANUAR Y 24, 2005 PAGE 8 OF 32 I HAVE SPOKEN WITH SEVERAL PEOPLE OVER THERE AND I GUESS STAFF HAS ALSO, AND IT TURNS OUT THAT MOST OF THE PEOPLE IN THAT AREA WOULD REALLY LIKE THAT PARK TO STAY THE WAY IT IS." COMMISSIONER MILLER ADDED, "I DON'T THINK IT IS WORTH PURSUING, AT THIS POINT." DISCUSSION. VOTE: COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE DEPUTYMAYORBLAKE: AYE COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE MOTION CARRIED. .:. .:. AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING REGULAR AGENDA ITEMS WERE DISCUSSED NEXT, AS DOCUMENTED. .:..:. REGULAR REGULAR 501. Community Development Department Requests The City Commission Consider And Approve The Final Engineering/Site Plan For The Northeast 2 [Two] Acres Of The Approximately 15 Acre JDC Calhoun/Doran Town Center Site, Just East Of Tuskawilla Road And South Of The Kingsbury Home. Mr. Baker spoke on this Agenda Item. With discussion on the actual location, Deputy Mayor Blake clarified, "It is west of Tuskawilla Road." Further discussion. Mr. Baker said, "We certainly support the idea of the twenty feet (20') couched with the qualifier of whatever our Consultant would say - however we don't have their recommendation in front of us." Mr. Baker added, "We're very supportive of this with that one (1) caveat that we have not received comment from our consultant regarding whether this should be ten (10), twenty (20) or somewhere in between, or maybe even twenty foot, one inch (20' 1 ") to get us the forty percent (40%) openings. This would obviously be since it is inconsistent with the Code, we'd probably want to include it the Development Agreement like we did the doors for Buildings 1 and 2." CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - JANUARY 24, 2005 PAGE 9 OF 32 Commissioner Miller noted, "I would like to see this brought back - with the comments of our Consultant and see what we can do about getting that one inch (1 ")." With further discussion on parking, Commissioner Miller noted, "I think we need to be kept informed of all these things that are coming down the pike." Additionally, Commissioner Miller said, "I think we need to bring this back, and show it with a potential multi-level parking garage." "COULD WE JUST TABLE THIS UNTIL IT COMES BACK WITH RECOMMENDATION FROM THE CONSULTANT AND FURTHER INFORMATION FROM THE CONSULTANT - YES, I MOVE TO TABLE." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MILLER. DISCUSSION. VOTE: DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE: NAY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE COMMISSIONER KREBS: NAY MOTION DID NOT CARRY. With discussion, Deputy Mayor Blake spoke of "The percentage of space that is allowed to be open within the wall that is within that corridor, whether it be ten percent (10%), or twenty percent (20%) or forty percent (40%)." Attorney Garganese said, "The Commission can approve it and we can incorporate it into a Development Agreement." Commissioner Blake then said to Manager McLemore, "Ron [McLemore], is there going to be any issue with Doran just adding an extra inch - between the buildings?" Manager McLemore stated, "I don't think so." Mr. Baker added, "I think it is important that that be conditioned upon that being an area with those openings, that we not have just blank walls. We don't want to have that big space and just an alley." Discussion. ~-Mr. Leigh Col);er:-~Jaines--Doran- Company," 216 Seven-Farms15rive,-~Sulte 2(J{ru-~- Charleston, South Carolina: representing the James Doran Company, Mr. Colyer addressed the City Commission. Commissioner Blake said to Mr. Colyer, "How do you feel about twenty feet, one inch (20' I")?" Mr. Colyer responded, "I'm fine with that." CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - JANUARY 24, 2005 PAGE 10 OF 32 Deputy Mayor Blake said to Mr. Colyer, "Do you have the authority from your company to agree to move the buildings to twenty feet, one inch (20' 1")..." Mr. Colyer stated, "...1 do..." Deputy Mayor Blake continued, "...And to provide for somewhere between twenty (20) and forty percent (40%) open wall space..." Mr. Colyer said, "...1 do..." Deputy Mayor Blake added, ".. .Doors, whatever, and activity within that activity within that corridor." Furthermore, Deputy Mayor Blake said, "You can create the design so that someone could lease the space. . ." Mr. Colyer stated, "... That is our intent. We will provide doors and windows and storefronts in that corridor space." "I WOULD LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE SITE PLAN AS PRESENTED WITH THE EXCEPTION THAT THE BUILDING SEPARATION SHOULD BE NO LESS THAN 20 FEET 1 INCH (20' 1") BETWEEN BUILDING 3 AND 4, WITH THE CORRIDOR HAVING NOT LESS THAN TWENTY PERCENT (20%), NOR MORE THAN FORTY PERCENT (40%) OPEN WALL SPACE - THAT WOULD BE DEFINED AS- WINDOWS AND DOORS AND THAT THE SPACE WOULD BE DESIGNED SO THAT IT WOULD BE CONDUCIVE - AS AN ACTIVITY AREA BETWEEN THE BUILDINGS." MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER KREBS. DISCUSSION. VOTE: COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE: AYE COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE MOTION CARRIED. REGULAR 502. Parks And Recreation Department Requesting City Commission Direction On Conducting The Winter Springs Celebration Of Freedom On July 3RD Instead Of July 4TH And Direction On ."-,...-..Expanding-'l'lreEventinto-A.R-egionat.E-ventQrStaying-A-1::;ocal City eetebratiorr;----~--,. Mr. Chuck Pula, Director, Parks and Recreation Department spoke on this Agenda Item. With discussion, Commissioner McGinnis stated that regarding a more regional event, "We would lose the home town flavor - of this event, and I would regret that." "We have talked before about an Events Coordinator, and this is one time, one example of how we could use an Events Coordinator to maybe help us revamp what we already do." CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - JANUARY 24, 2005 PAGE II OF 32 Commissioner Krebs stated, "If you were going to plan something, I would really like to see a lot of effort put into it and it be really, really nice." With further comments, Commissioner Krebs stated, "I wish we could - see more of what plans - what plans you would have for - any activities as such. I would have liked some input from our public to see how they really feel - how they feel, would they go, would they not go, what do they prefer - do they even go now? I would probably support - the large - regional, if everybody else wanted that. I am not opposed to it." Commissioner Gilmore remarked, "I can understand why you want the July 3rd, if it is on a Sunday - it gives you a rain date; but rain dates work for these kinds of things." Commissioner Gilmore added, "I would say let's keep it a nice local City event." Commissioner Miller commented that, "I think the 3rd [of July] - this year is probably a good idea." Commissioner Miller added, "I guess it gives us twice the opportunity to have a successful show, unless it rains - both days." Commissioner Miller then stated, "So with regard to a regional event, I kind of support the rest of Commission - I think it really is a City event." Deputy Mayor Blake said, "I don't think I would like to see this turn into the type of event that Altamonte Springs has." Furthermore, Deputy Mayor Blake said, "This year, because of - the way it fits into the calendar, I would support moving it to July 3rd because of the rain date issue. That is the only reason I would consider doing it." Additionally, Deputy Mayor Blake said, "It is called the 4th of July, because it happens to fall on the 4th of July and I think that is when we ought to celebrate it, but for this one year only, I think I might consider moving it to the 3rd [of July]" With further comments, Commissioner McGinnis said, "If we did move it to the 3rd [of July] - I would only agree if it would be just - for one (1) year." Discussion. Tape 2/Side A -- --Furtherdiscussimr.-- ~________________________________m__ Deputy Mayor Blake further spoke of the Event with the Orlando Philharmonic and added, "These types of Events, I would rather have a couple than one (1) huge mega event." Commissioner Krebs noted, "I would like to see more events." Discussion. CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - JANUARY 24, 2005 PAGE 12 OF 32 "I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE YOUR REQUEST FOR THE [JULY] 3RD, WITH AN ALTERNATE FOR THE [JULY] 4TH, AND SECONDLY THAT YOU TRY TO DO IT FOR SEVENTY-FIVE [THOUSAND DOLLARS] ($75,000.00) AND - IF YOU CANNOT DO IT FOR SEVENTY-FIVE [THOUSAND DOLLARS] ($75,000.00) - BRING IT BACK IF IT IS AN EXTRA COUPLE OF THOUSAND - BRING IT BACK TO US." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MILLER. SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE. DISCUSSION. DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE ADDED, "IN THE PAST, WE HAVE ALSO RELIED HEA VIL Y ON CONTRIBUTIONS FROM - OTHER SPONSORSHIPS AND EVERYTHING ELSE, AND I THINK THAT IF THAT EVOLVES, OR IF THAT DOES NOT EVOLVE - I THINK THAT CHUCK [PULA] AND THE MANAGER WILL BE KEEPING US ABREAST OF THOSE DEVELOPMENTS AND COME BACK TO US EITHER FOR MORE OR LESS BASED ON THOSE DEVELOPMENTS." VOTE: COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE: AYE MOTION CARRIED. REGULAR 503. Community Development Department - Arborist Recommends The City Commission Consider The Request Of Mr. Steve Miller To Remove One (1) 28-Inch Specimen Oak Tree. Mr. Michael Mingea, ArboristlEnvironmental Inspector, Community Development Community Development Department addressed the City Commission on this Agenda ------rrem:'.. - - ----- ~------ -- -- -- - - -- --------- -- - --- ----------- Mr. Steve Miller, 606 Morgan Street, Winter Springs, Florida: spoke on his request. Discussion. Mr. Charlie Cecil, Casselberry Construction, 90 Chaney Drive, Casselberry, Florida: as the Contractor for the homeowner, Mr. Cecil discussed this issue with the City Commission. Discussion. CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - JANUARY 24, 2005 PAGE 13 Or 32 "I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION WE APPROVE ITEM '503'." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER GILMORE. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. DISCUSSION. VOTE: COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE: AYE COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE MOTION CARRIED. .:. .:. AGENDA NOTE: THE PUBLIC HEARINGS AGENDA ITEMS WERE NEXT DISCUSSED, FOLLOWED BY THE REST OF THE AGENDA. .:. .:. PUBLIC HEARINGS AGENDA PUBLIC HEARINGS 400. Office Of The City Manager And Office Of The City Attorney Request That The City Commission Approve On Second Reading Ordinance 2005- 05, Which Amends The City Code's Requirement That Utility Lines Be Placed Underground, And Also Requires Undergrounding Of Utility Lines Along S.R. [State Road] 434 And/Or Tuskawilla Road By Property Owners Developing Or Redeveloping Property Along Those Designated Areas. Attorney Garganese read Ordinance 2005-05 by "Title" only, and stated, "I did incorporate the changes and comments of the City Commission at First Reading, and I outlined those changes under 'CONSIDERATIONS' number '6.' in the Agenda Item." Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item. Mr. Medford McCoy, 114 Brookshire Court, Winter Springs, Florida: spoke on which u---c1flzens-WouT<foe'c6ntributmg totliispfoJecL-'---- "u__.______. . ." .----. .. -'--"'P Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item. Discussion. Deputy Mayor Blake asked Attorney Garganese, "Are you aware of any Benefit Districts that have been created in the past for the purpose of burying power lines, and if not, then it intuitively doesn't make sense and how would you measure that Benefit area. CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - JANUARY 24,2005 PAGE 14 OF 32 That would be an interesting question because it probably is not, especially on a corridor - probably not just the property owners right on the corridor - there may be a larger area, a general community benefit that may be derived from something like that, and do we have any idea of what sort of an assessment and to what period of time might be required to make this happen? I think these are questions that we should investigate a little more in depth before we go ahead and pass this Ordinance. Because if there is a way where we can much more affordably and I think much more equitably spread the cost to get this done, and get it done, all at one time, not waiting, perhaps twenty (20) or thirty (30) years." With further discussion, Deputy Mayor Blake added, "I would be in favor of postponing further consideration of this Ordinance for one (1) month giving Staff time to do a little bit of research and report back to us on some alternative methods." Commissioner McGinnis said, "I would agree with that, and one of the things that I would like to see is when we talk about redevelopment, we talk about it is spotty, so what happens - you have redevelopment here with undergrounding, and then down here you don't, so you haven't solved your problem. I would like to have that addressed." Next, Commissioner Gilmore stated, "That distribution line, I have problems with. If you have a distribution line running along this - overhead, along the street, and you say to somebody - you are going to develop two hundred foot (200') along there - the cost of that two hundred foot (200') gets very high, because they have to drop down, go underneath and come back up again. And believe me when you start looking at the cost of that, it's a major project. I think if we are going to require that, we should say, we take a whole section at a time - form a taxing district or whatever it may be." "I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION WE POSTPONE ORDINANCE NUMBER 2005-05 UNTIL FEBRUARY 28TH, 2005." MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER KREBS. DISCUSSION. VOTE: -~ COMMISSIONER KREBS: ' AYE COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE: AYE COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE MOTION CARRIED. CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - JANUARY 24, 2005 PAGE 15 OF 32 "I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION WE DIRECT CITY STAFF TO INVESTIGATE ALTERNATIVE FUNDING MECHANISMS AVAILABLE, KNOWN OR UNKNOWN, TO ACCOMPLISH THE GOALS SET FORTH BY ORDINANCE 2005-05." MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE. MAYOR BUSH STATED, "SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER KREBS." DISCUSSION. VOTE: COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE DEPUTYMAYORBLAKE: AYE COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE MOTION CARRIED. PUBLIC HEARINGS 401. Community Development Department - Planning Division Requests The Commission Hold A Public Hearing For First Reading Of Ordinance 2005-02, A Small Scale FLUM [Future Land Use Map] Amendment Which Changes The Future Land Use Map Designation Of An 1.95 Acre Parcel, Located At 1136 Orange Avenue, From (Seminole County) "Suburban Estates" And "Conservation" To (City Of Winter Springs) "Town Center" And "Conservation Overlay" (On Those Affected Areas). "MOTION TO READ BY 'TITLE' ONLY." MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. DISCUSSION. VOTE: COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE DEPUTYMAYORBLAKE: AYE COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE u----MOTION CARRIED. Attorney Garganese read the Ordinance by "Title" only. Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item. No one spoke. Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item. CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - JANUARY 24,2005 PAGE 16 UF 32 Ms. Eloise Sahlstrom, AICP, ASLA, Senior Planner, Community Development Department spoke on this Agenda Item. "I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION WE MOVE ORDINANCE 2005-02 TO AN ADOPTION HEARING AT OUR NEXT REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING." MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. DISCUSSION. VOTE: DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE: AYE COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE MOTION CARRIED. PUBLIC HEARINGS 402. Community Development Department - Planning Division Requests The Commission Hold A Public Hearing For First Reading Of Ordinance 2005-03 Which Rezones 1.95 Acres (More Or Less), Located At 1136 Orange Avenue From "A-I" Agricultural (Seminole County) To "Town Center" (City Of Winter Springs). "MOTION TO READ ORDINANCE 2005-03 BY 'TITLE' ONLY." MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER KREBS. DISCUSSION. VOTE: COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE DEPUTYMAYORBLAKE: AYE COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE '-'~-eOMMISSIONER GILM6RE:~~AYE MOTION CARRIED. Attorney Garganese read Ordinance 2005-03 by "Title" only. Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item. No one spoke. Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item. CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - JANUARY 24,2005 PAGE170f32 "I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION WE MOVE ORDINANCE 2005-03 TO AN ADOPTION HEARING AT OUR NEXT REGULARLY SCHEDULED COMMISSION MEETING." MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MILLER. DISCUSSION. VOTE: COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE: AYE COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE MOTION CARRIED. PUBLIC HEARINGS 403. Community Development Department Recommends The City Commission Hear A Waiver Request By Charles And Sandra Lacey From Section 20-103. Of The City Code Of Ordinances, To Encroach 3 [Three] Feet Into The 20 Foot Side Building Setback To Add On To The Side Of An Existing Single Family Residence. This Was Previously Heard As A Variance, But Has Directed Back Through The BOA [Board Of Adjustment], Pursuant To The Newly Adopted Waiver Provisions (Section 20-34. Of The City Code) In Ordinance Number 2004-49. Mr. Baker introduced this Agenda Item. Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item. Mr. Mike Bass, 776 Bear Creek Circle, Winter Springs, Florida: spoke in favor of this Agenda Item. Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item. , , -----Mr;-€har/es-hacey;--7-JJHear-ereekeircfe;-Winter Spf ings ,-Fforida;--stated,.-'-'I-also want- to take the opportunity to thank Mr. [John] Baker for really extensive, exhaustive Staff work on this." Mr. Lacey added, "I also want to mention Mr. [Anthony] Garganese's effort in drafting the Ordinance. Tape 27Side B Commissioner Krebs noted for the Record that she had received a letter from Mr. Lacey on this issue. Discussion. CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - JANUARY 24, 2005 PAGE IS OF 32 "I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE PASS ITEM '403' PROVIDING A WAIVER FOR CHARLES AND SANDRA LACEY TO MAKE THEIR ADDITION WHICH WILL ENCROACH THREE FEET (3') INTO THE TWENTY FOOT (20') SETBACK." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER GILMORE. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER KREBS. DISCUSSION. VOTE: COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE: AYE COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE MOTION CARRIED. PUBLIC HEARINGS 404. Community Development Department - Planning Division Requests That The City Commission Hold A Public Hearing For Second Reading And Adoption Of A Large Scale Comprehensive Plan Amendment (Ordinance 2004-38) Changing The Future Land Use Map [FLUM] Designation From "Greeneway Interchange" To "Mixed Use" And "Conservation Overlay" (On Those Affected Areas) For The Forty (40) Acres, More Or Less, Located On East S.R. [State Road] 434, Immediately Across From Creeks Run Way. Attorney Garganese read Ordinance 2004-38 by "Title" only. Ms. Sahlstrom stated, "We do have this Comprehensive Plan Citizens Courtesy information list that the State requires that we transmit to them; and there is one out front - if anybody wants to sign it to be informed." Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item. No one spoke. Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item. Commissioner McGinnis noted, "Out of a forty (40) acre, more or less, piece of property, I understand that there is - a minimum of thirty percent (30%) - for conservation and 1.5 acres for recreational amenities. So my question is, it seems like 1.5 acres for recreational amenities is not very much, is that consistent with this kind of acreage and project?" Ms. Sahlstrom remarked, "We have not scrutinized the site plan." Discussion. CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING.. JANUARY 24, 2005 PAGE j 9 OF 32 Mr. Hugh Harling, P.E., Harling Locklin & Associates, 850 Courtland Street, Orlando, Florida: addressed the City Commission on this Agenda Item and explained, "When you voted to transmit this, one of the commitments that we made was that there would be 80,000 square feet of office at the front of the property." Additionally, Mr. Harling noted, "There would be office space right here - and then office space here, and the entry road comes in here - this driveway cut is already in place; and then we would come back to a gated community and this would be the residential - the 1.5 acres that you were speaking to - is the active recreation here, which would include the clubhouse, pool. There are other amenities, but we consider this to be 1.5 acres of active recreation - so there is other passive recreation associated with that. The buildings will be a maximum of fifty feet (50') tall; that there is approximately twelve feet (12') per floor and a Class A type - twelve feet (12) between floors and a Class A type office building so they'd be approximately forty-eight feet (48') tall. We have 60,000 square feet here, 20,000 square feet here, and then the total number of units over here is about 480 units." Mr. Harling spoke of the property owner, the Cascells, and added, "What we've committed to is that we would make a connection with her that would be a common connection for the frontage part of it, so that people would not have to - if somebody wanted to go to her site, they wouldn't have to come out onto the road - vice versa the same thing. Those are the things that we committed to and I think your City Manager, Ron McLemore said his aspect of it was Class A up front and each one of you agreed with that when we transmitted so we are perfectly willing to put that on the Record." Commissioner Miller mentioned the buildings along the Lake Mary, FloridalI-4 corridor- to which Mr. Harling stated, "I could get you an equivalent size for those and let you know what they are." With further discussion, Manager McLemore said to Mr. Harling, "Assuming things move right along with this, what's your planning in terms of actually when you would be coming out of the ground with this - time wise?" Mr. Harling stated, "The timing on it is ., - -we-nave-readyToapp[yt6r-a-:::-1oaiilngappTicatfonlmmernareIy;"moW:.".iiiI6--Fifiar.- .,.",." Engineering drawings immediately - this was a big step before funds were committed to it. I would think that we would be probably at least a year in the design, permitting and ready to go to construction. At that time, if the market is there for both a Phase 1 of the office product and the condominium product would be built in phases also. Build a building, sell from that, build the other buildings, so I would think that you would be able to see something coming out of the ground probably in about eighteen (18) months." "I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ADOPT ORDINANCE 2004-38." MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE. MAYOR BUSH NOTED, "SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MILLER." DISCUSSION. CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - JANUARY 24,2005 PAGE 2u Of 32 VOTE: DEPUTYMAYORBLAKE: AYE COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE MOTION CARRIED. PUBLIC HEARINGS 405. Community Development Department - Planning Division Requests That The Commission Hold A Public Hearing For Second Reading And Adoption Of A Large Scale Comprehensive Plan Amendment (Ordinance 2004-40) Changing The Future Land Use Map [FLUM] Designation From "Office" (Seminole County) To "Town Center District" (Winter Springs) For Eight (8) Parcels Containing 11.028 Acres, More Or Less, Located South Of SR [State Road] 434, West Of The Intersection At Tuskawilla Road. Attorney Garganese read Ordinance 2004-40 by "Title" only. Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item. No one spoke. Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item. "I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ADOPT ORDINANCE 2004-40." MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. DISCUSSION. VOTE: COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE COMMISSIONERMcGINNfS: AYE COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE: AYE MOTION CARRIED. CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - JANUARY 24, 2005 PAGE 2i OF 32 PUBLIC HEARINGS 406. Community Development Department - Planning Division Requests That The Commission Hold A Public Hearing For Second Reading And Adoption To Consider A Large Scale Comprehensive Plan Text Amendment (Ordinance 2004-43) Referenced As LS-CP A-05-4, Which Shall Amend The Comprehensive Plan By Adding Policy Statements To The Future Land Use [FLUM] Element Relating To The Establishment Of An Urban Central Business District And Revising Transportation Element Policy 1.5.14 Relating To The Town Center. Attorney Garganese read the Ordinance by "Title" only. Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item. Ms. Rebecca Furman, Attorney, Lowndes Drosdick Doster Kantor & Reed, P.A., 215 North Eola Drive, Orlando, Florida: addressed the City Commission on behalf of the J ames Doran Company. Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item. "MOTION TO APPROVE." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MILLER. DISCUSSION. VOTE: COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE: AYE COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE MOTION CARRIED. PUBLIC HEARINGS ,. .....40.7. Community Development..D.epartment=~anningDiyision.... _... Requests The City Commission Hold A Public Hearing For The Aesthetic Review Of Bruster's Real Ice Cream. Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item. No one spoke. Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item. CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - JANUARY 24, 2005 PAGE 22 OF 32 Discussion ensued with Ms. Sahlstroill regarding signage. Commissioner McGinnis said to Mr. Ayube (Benson) Kahn, "You get your larger letters, would you consider a glass door or some glass in the door?" Mr. Ayube (Benson) Kahn, 1464 Wescott Loop, Winter Springs, Florida: stated, "Yes." Further discussion. "I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT '407' WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE DOOR WHICH HAS NOW BEEN AGREED TO - TO CHANGE TO GLASS." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER KREBS. MAYOR BUSH STATED, "SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE - WITH THE ADDITION OF THE GLASS DOOR." DISCUSSION. VOTE: COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE DEPUTYMAYORBLAKE: AYE MOTION CARRIED. Tape 3/Side A Mayor Bush called a Recess at 9:35 p.m. The Meeting reconvened at 9:50 p.m. Deputy Mayor Blake returned to the Commission Chambers at 9:51 p.m. PUBLIC HEARINGS 408. Community Development D~!lrt!!!~!!L ,.. . . _ ______ _.. __ _ _., ___.._____.... Presents To The Commission, The Second Reading Of Ordinance 2004-52, To Vacate And Abandon A Segment Of The David Drive Right-Of-Way (ROW). As noted at the beginning of this Meeting under "Agenda Changes", this Agenda Item was "Pulled". CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - JANUARY 24, 2005 PAGE 23 OF 32 REGULAR AGENDA REGULAR 500. Community Development Department - Planning Division Requests That The Commission Consider And Approve A Final Engineering/Site Plan For A 1213 Square Foot Ice Cream Shop On A 1.36-Acre Tract On SR [State Road] 434 At Costa Rica Drive. Ms. Sahlstrom introduced this Agenda Item. Discussion. Commissioner Miller asked, "Is it the intention to build a building on [PARCEL] B, at some point?" Mr. Thomas H. Skeleton, P.E., American Civil Engineers, Inc., 207 North Moss Road, Suite 211, Winter Springs, Florida: stated, "They have no plans for the second parcel right now. I think after they get going, he's looking to develop that and maybe some other parcels along [State Road] 434 that he now owns. I believe it was thought to be maybe a small office or something." Discussion ensued with Mr. Kahn. "MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM - '500'." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MILLER. MAYOR BUSH STATED, "SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS." DISCUSSION. VOTE: COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE: AYE COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE Murl'1UNLARKl~D~---------------- -------------- CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORlDA MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - JANUARY 24, 2005 PAGE 24 OF 32 REGULAR AGENDA REGULAR 504. Community Development Department - Customer Service Division Requests The City Commission Consider Information About The Waiver Of Permit Fees Due To The Hurricanes In August And September Of 2004. This Agenda Item Will Cover Concerns Expressed By Commission On January 10th, 2005 On The Existing Waiver Of Permit Fees For Storm Related Damages. Ms. Max Epstein, Manager, Customer Service Division, Community Development Department spoke on this Agenda Item. Much discussion. "I MOVE THAT WE END THE WAIVER OF PERMIT FEES THIRTY (30) DAYS FROM TODAY, WHICH WOULD BE ANNOUNCED IN THE NEXT NEWSLETTER." MANAGER McLEMORE SAID, "IT WOULD BE VERY GOOD IF WE COULD JUST END IT AT THE END OF FEBRUARY." COMMISSIONER McGINNIS ADDED, "THAT IS FINE." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MILLER. DISCUSSION. VOTE: COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE: AYE COMMISSIONER KREBS: NAY COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE MOTION CARRIED. REGULAR 505. Office Of The City Clerk Respectfully R.equests Th-at-Deputy-Mayw-Mkhael-S.--Blake-M-ake An Appointment------. To The Planning And Zoning Board/Local Planning Agency. DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE APPOINTED LINDA TILLIS. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MILLER. DISCUSSION. MOTION. CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - JANUARY 24, 2005 PAGE 25 OF 32 VOTE: COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE: AYE COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE MOTION CARRIED. REGULAR 506. Customer Service Department Requests The City Commission Consider Information About The Naming Of One Street: Roberts Family Lane As Requested By Commissioner Michael Blake. "MOTION TO APPROVE." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MILLER. DISCUSSION. VOTE: COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE DEPUTYMAYORBLAKE: AYE COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE MOTION CARRIED. REGULAR 507. Office Of The City Manager ADD-ON Requesting The City Commission To Authorize The City Manager And City Attorney To Prepare A Formal Partnership Agreement With Winter Springs Rotary Club To Construct A Veterans Memorial In The Winter Springs Town Center. Commissioner Gilmore stated, "I am a member of the Rotary Club. I will be President- Elect when this project proceeds." Deputy Mayor Blake asked Attorney Garganese if there was any conflict. With discussion, no conflict was noted. Mr. Bill Starmer, Architect, Starmer, Ranaldi Planning and Architecture (sri), 890 Northern Way, Winter Springs, Florida: reviewed proposed plans for this project with the City Commission. CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - JANUARY 24, 2005 n",r"T"" ""\,- AT'" 1"'\ rn.uJ..:...c..u vr J.c.. Commissioner McGinnis suggested, "It seems to me rather odd to have a 'Memorial to War'." Commissioner McGinnis thought that a "Memorial to Service people - to service, when this first came up, I had asked if - the word 'Commemorative' or something like that could be substituted for 'Memorial'?" Commissioner McGinnis added, "I would like to have you consider something beside 'Memorial' and 'War'." Deputy Mayor Blake said, "I agree with what the Commissioner just said." Deputy Mayor Blake then asked, "Have we received permission from the State to place hardscape on this land?" With discussion, Mr. Starmer spoke on this and said, "I believe you're okay, but you might want to check with them." Deputy Mayor Blake added, "If it is a hurdle, what steps do we need to take." Commissioner Miller said, "I am talking about 'War Memorial' versus 'Veterans Memorial' - the Agenda Item says 'Veterans Memorial' - I think you would probably make- Commissioner- McGinnis happy if you do use 'War Memorial' and I - think 'Veterans Memorial' is probably the better term. I think you ought to be inclusive for the living and the dead." Furthermore, Commissioner Miller said, '''Veterans Memorial' - I think is great and I like your concept." Mayor Bush inquired, "Whose names go on the wall? How do you decide? Who decides?" With discussion, Mr. Starmer stated, "Semantically, 'War Memorial' and 'Veterans Memorial' I understand that - 'Memorial' is an issue also as is ' War' and 'Veterans' - we'll make sure before we actually name it someday, that we all agree on what it's real purpose is. In answer to your question, is that it's for those who have served, who are Veterans, both alive and then deceased..." Mayor Bush added, "...And have lived in Winter Springs." Mr. Starmer said, "Correct." With discussion, Mayor Bush asked, "It seems to me that these kinds of edifices are usually handled by American Legions, Veteran's of Foreign Wars - who have a way to verify service, etc., etc. Do you plan to get any of those organization's involved, is the Rotary going to handle it themselves?" Discussion. Tape 3/Side B Deputy Mayor Blake said, "The next steps that lie ahead of us are really the policy and procedure issues that I think we need to just determine a process to figure out what they ought to be. Perhaps have a couple of individuals from the Rotary and a couple of individuals from the Commission perhaps get together on a subcommittee and discuss some of these real issues of the - 'how do you get in'; 'who gets in'; 'who doesn't'; 'what do we call it' - all those little finer details, and then bring it back and each group ratify that work that was done." CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - JANUARY 24, 2005 PAGE 27 OF 32 "I 'VOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE AUTHORIZE THE - CITY MANAGER AND OUR ATTORNEY TO ENTER INTO A FORMAL PARTNERSHIP AGREEMENT WITH WINTER SPRINGS ROTARY CLUB TO WORK TOWARDS THE CONSTRUCTION AND/OR WORKING OUT THE FINE POLICY DETAILS OF THE AREA ON BLUMBERG BOULEVARD CURRENTLY KNOWN AS THE 'VETERAN'S MEMORIAL'." MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER KREBS. DISCUSSION. MANAGER McLEMORE SAID, "AND AGREE TO THE GROUNDBREAKING DATE." DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE STATED, "IF THE MANAGER AND ATTORNEY CAN HAMMER OUT AN AGREEMENT, THAT WOULD BE IN THAT AGREEMENT." VOTE: COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE: AYE COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE MOTION CARRIED. .:..:. AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING REPORTS WERE DISCUSSED NEXT, BUT NOT NECESSARILY IN THE ORDER AS DOCUMENTED. .:. .:. REPORTS REPORTS 600. Office Of The City Attorney - Anthony A. Garganese, Esquire Attorney Garganese advised the City Commission that "Seminole County is moving forward with the implementation of the Home Rule Cl!.<l!!er. Ag1~.1'ldment._Ihe m~tte~._, ~~- - _______.__._..~,_..._.__.._m._"."_..__. went to the Seminole County Land Planning Agency for review and recommendation of a Text Amendment to the Comprehensive Plan implementing the Charter Amendment." Attorney Garganese noted a letter submitted into the Record of Seminole County's Land Planning Agency's Meeting. CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - JANUARY 24, 2005 PAGE 28 OF 32 REPORTS 601. Office Of The City Manager - Ronald W. McLemore Manager McLemore spoke of changing the date for a City Commission Workshop on Rural Lands. With discussion, Mayor Bush stated, "That's a Tuesday, on the 15th [Of February]." Commissioner McGinnis said, "Good." Commissioner Krebs stated, "That is fine." No objections were noted. Mayor Bush added, "6:30 [p.m.] on the 15th" [Of February]." Next, discussion ensued on possible colors for the Trail Bridge. "I MOVE THAT WE PAY THIRTY-ONE THOUSAND, SEVEN HUNDR4ED NINETY-THREE DOLLARS ($31,793.00) FOR THE THREE (3) COLOR SCHEME." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE. DISCUSSION. VOTE: COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE DEPUTYMAYORBLAKE: AYE COMMISSIONER MILLER: NAY COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE COMMISSIONER KREBS: NAY MOTION CARRIED. REPORTS 602. Office Of The City Clerk - Andrea Lorenzo-Luaces City Clerk Andrea Lorenzo-Luaces reminded the City Commission about the next scheduled Workshop. REPORTS 603. Commission Seat Five - Joanne M. Krebs Commissioner Krebs asked if a light switch could be added to the back of the Commission Chambers. Brief discussion. Next, Commissioner Krebs mentioned that a representative of the Code Enforcement Board has suggested that women be appointed for any future appointments, to broaden the make-up of the Code Enforcement Board. Commissioner Krebs added, "Anthony [Garganese], I believe we did pass the ability to appoint Alternates to the Boards, correct - so, I would request from - the City Clerk to have any names that have been submitted, asking for any of these positions." CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - JANUARY 24, 2005 PAGE 29 OF 32 Lastly, Commissioner Krebs said, "I think that Ron [McLemore], if you could direct Staff to be prepared to answer questions when those questions come in." Commissioner Krebs then spoke of getting V oiceMail and suggested, "I don't know if there is some kind of recording that you can put on if they call in, and this pertains to permits." REPORTS 604. Office Of The Mayor - John F. Bush Mayor Bush mentioned that tomorrow, he would be attending the County Commission meeting and will present the two (2) Resolutions approved under the Consent Agenda. The State of the City Address was mentioned next and Mayor Bush noted, "I would like to give that at the next Commission Meeting; so I would like to put that in the Agenda at some point." Next, Mayor Bush mentioned that "We have got to do a better job of communicating with our citizens." Mayor Bush added, "We talk about wanting to tell people things and then we don't do anything any different to speak of. We put something in the Utility Bill, or the Newsletter which goes out randomly almost." Mayor Bush then said, "There is a lot of good things that go on in Winter Springs - I think that we need to tell people about it." Furthermore, Mayor Bush said, "We all talk about communication, we do nothing about it." Commissioner Krebs stated, "I agree." Commissioner McGinnis said, "I have been saying this for two (2) years." Commissioner Krebs added, "I agree and I am going to come up with a way next - time." Mayor Bush added, "I think that we should ask the Manager to look into this and bring back some recommendations to the Commission, at least for discussion purposes. For instance, SGTV [Seminole Government Television] would be one." Mayor Bush said to the Commission, "Do we have consensus in asking the Manager to do this?" Commissioner McGinnis said, "Yes." Commissioner Krebs stated, "Yes." No objections were noted. Commissioner Miller said, "Commissioner Krebs brought up an interesting point and .--"'we1.ve-kiek-ed-this"around"several-iimes,'we-dorrtseem-io-be-getting- any whet e-with-it-+..---- have called City Hall several times too, and nobody answers the phone - I think it might not be a bad idea for Ron [McLemore] to organize a system wherein somebody answers the phone when you cal1." Commissioner Miller added, "Make a system wherein it automatically defaults to somebody, so somebody eventually picks up the phone." Mayor Bush said, "Mr. McLemore will in fact come back with a recommendation." CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - JANUARY 24, 2005 n A r'T"' 'If\ "'",.,'" r J-\.\JC JV vr JL. REPORTS 605. Commission Seat One - Robert S. Miller Commissioner Miller reviewed a criminal matter involving a criminal who amongst other actions, stole Mrs. Blumberg's car over the weekend. Regarding this issue, Commissioner Miller complimented the Winter Springs Police Department for their recovery efforts. Commissioner Miller then suggested a letter be drafted by the City Attorney regarding their displeasure with individuals with criminal records being released early. Discussion. REPORTS 606. Commission Seat Two/Deputy Mayor - Michael S. Blake Deputy Mayor Blake asked Manage'r McLemore what the delay was in getting computers for the dais. With brief discussion, McLemore stated, "I will confer with Joanne [Dalka]. " Secondly, Deputy Mayor Blake spoke of the death of Ms. Sandra Glenn, the Executive Director of the East Central Florida Planning Council, and that a Memorial Service was planned for this coming Saturday. REPORTS 607. Commission Seat Three - Donald A. Gilmore Commissioner Gilmore mentioned his recent attendance at the Florida League of Cities lEMa [Institute for Elected Municipal Officials] program. Next, Commissioner Gilmore stated, "I was hoping that our Police Department at some time - can start enforcing the loud noises from automobiles and motorcycles." Commissioner Gilmore also suggested that mufflers be used. With discussion, Attorney Garganese stated, "We're getting close to having a real good draft of a new Noise Ordinance which will be decibel-based." Deputy Mayor Blake noted, "The sooner, the '-Det1:ef:~'~-Co1fifi1issioneYGilmoreMaecr,"''DeCiDel readmgs do not necess'arilymillcate tlie---'-'--- true issue". Discussion. CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - JANUARY 24, 2005 PAGE3] OF32 REPORTS 608. Commission Seat Four - Sally McGinnis First of all, Commissioner McGinnis spoke briefly about an article on older people buying and using motorcycles. Commissioner McGinnis noted, "Following our Workshop with our Consultant which was just wonderful, "I would like to propose that we add the word 'Downtown' to Town Center, so that it is our downtown." Discussion. "I WILL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE PUT 'DOWN' IN FRONT OF 'TOWN' IN OUR TOWN CENTER." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. COMMISSIONER McGINNIS FURTHER STATED, "DOWNTOWN WINTER SPRINGS." WITH FURTHER COMMENTS, COMMISSIONER McGINNIS SUGGESTED, "WINTER SPRINGS DOWNTOWN." MAYOR BUSH STATED, SECONDED BY "COMMISSIONER MILLER." DISCUSSION. COMMISSIONER McGINNIS CLARIFIED THE MOTION AS, "I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THAT WE CALL OUR NEW TOWN CENTER - CHANGE THE NAME TO - 'DOWNTOWN WINTER SPRINGS'." MAYOR BUSH STATED, "SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MILLER." Commissioner Miller stated, "Point of Order" and spoke of the time. "MOTION TO EXTEND - THIRTY (30) MINUTES." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER KREBS. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. DISCUSSION. VOTE: (ON THE MOTION TO EXTEND) COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE: AYE COMMISSIONER MILLER: NAY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE '" ~--eoMMISSfONERGtI:JM6RE~*YE-M MOTION CARRIED. FURTHER DISCUSSION. VOTE: DEPUTYMAYORBLAKE: NAY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: NAY COMMISSIONER MILLER: NAY COMMISSIONER GILMORE: NAY COMMISSIONER KREBS: NAY MOTION DID NOT CARRY. CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - JANUARY 24, 2005 PAGE 32 OF 32 Commissioner McGilmis added, "I will look forward to that coming back before us." Additionally, Commissioner McGinnis said, "I hope that all the coffee the City is buying is from Barnie's." Commissioner McGinnis added, "It's just a new business we need to support. " Regarding Village Walk and the related landscaping, Commissioner McGinnis spoke of Red BOud Trees and stated, "This is a very important development, why would we put trees in there that are going to be barren all winter. This is Florida. So, I would like to have that plan modified or to come back." Mayor Bush stated, "Are the Commissioners in agreement with Commissioner McGinnis' recommendation?" Commissioner Miller said, "If it is to bring it back, yes." Deputy Mayor Blake noted, "I agree." No objections were heard. Lastly, Commissioner McGinnis mentioned that, "I just think we need to keep remembering an Events Coordinator. We are getting so close, we don't need somebody full-time. But this 4th of July was an example of how we might have utilized an Events Coordinator. Maybe had two (2) events instead of one (1), maybe one at our downtown, and one (1) at the park, on two (2) different days. So, I encourage this to move along too. Mayor Bush suggested, "Maybe at next year's Budget." ADJOURNMENT Mayor Bush adjourned the Meeting at approximately 11 :22 p.m. RIiSPECTFULLY SUBMITTED: \' I , \ V . / ~6RENZO-LUACES, CMC ERK APPROVED: I:~ NOTE: These Minutes were approved at the February 14,2005 Regular City Commission Meeting.