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CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA
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FEBRUARY 27,2006
CALL TO ORDER
The Regular Meeting of Monday, February 27, 2006 of the City Commission was called
to order by Mayor John F. Bush at 6:30 p.m. in the Commission Chambers of the
Municipal Building (City Hall, 1126 East State Road 434, Winter Springs, Florida
32708).
Roll Call:
Mayor John F. Bush, present
Deputy Mayor Michael S. Blake, present
Commissioner Robert S. Miller, present
Commissioner Donald A. Gilmore, arrived at 6:36 p.m.
Commissioner Sally McGinnis, present
Commissioner Joanne M. Krebs, present
City Manager Ronald W. McLemore, present
City Attorney Anthony A. Garganese, arrived at 6:33 p.m.
A moment of silence was followed by the Pledge of Allegiance.
City Attorney Anthony A. Garganese arrived at 6:33 p.m.
Regarding Public Hearings Agenda Item "200", Mayor Bush stated, "I believe that they
have requested this be pulled from the Agenda tonight. I did talk to the Attorney today."
Mr. George Kramer, Planner, Glatting Jackson Kercher Anglin Lopez Rinehart, Inc., 33
East Pine Street Orlando, Florida: commented on a Request for an "Extension" and
stated, "Several reasons we asked for the 'Extension'. The first reason was the School
issue at our Planning and Zoning [Board] Hearing. It was asked that we get a more
formalized Exhibit for our Agreement with the School Board, which - by Friday we do
not have. 1 heard that we have one (1) now, but we haven't had a chance to look at it yet.
The second issue was the issue of Density - 1 heard was raised, and we wanted a chance
to explain that a little bit more. And, lastly - 1 know there was some, we wanted some
additional time to meet with the citizen's groups to talk about some potential concerns
there and questions they might have."
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Mayor Bush stated, "We do have a copy of the - letter that the School Board sent out. I
asked them to fax it to us because I knew that you were going to ask for this." Mr.
Kramer stated, "I have not seen a copy of it."
Deputy Mayor Michael S. Blake asked, "When did you want to move this to? Wasn't
there some critical time element involving this Application?" Mr. Kramer noted, "We
asked for a two (2) week extension." Deputy Mayor Blake added, "If we were to move it
two (2) weeks, then we do that to a 'Date Certain' - we can preserve the advertising that
has been done - as long as the property remains posted during the time frame."
Mr. Kramer then commented on the citizen's groups and stated that "We did have a few
residents - Tuscawilla neighborhood, that back up to the property that had expressed
some concerns at the LP A (Local Planning Agency)."
Commissioner Donald A. Gilmore arrived at 6:36 p.m.
Mayor Bush asked the Commission, "What is your pleasure? Do you want to pull this
or not?" Commissioner Sally McGinnis stated, "I have no problems with pulling it, if
they are going to talk to the community, fine. They haven't had a chance to review the
letter." Commissioner Joanne M. Krebs stated, "I will hear it." Commissioner
Gilmore stated, "I will hear it. "
Deputy Mayor Blake stated, "I won't be here at the next Meeting. I will be out of town.
So, I would request if we do not hear it tonight, and we do move itforward, or postpone
it, that we do so for two (2) Meetings, if that doesn't cause the Applicant any pain."
Attorney Garganese stated, "Our - informal rule has always been that you can
postpone it to a 'Date Certain' and my recommendation is 'Don't postpone it more
than twice (2) to a 'Date Certain' without going back and advertising again '." It was
noted that this was the first postponement to which Attorney Garganese stated, "That's
okay. "
Commissioner Robert S. Miller stated, "I have no difficulty with postponing - two (2)
Meetings. "
"I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE POSTPONE [PUBLIC
HEARINGS AGENDA] ITEM '200' - NOTIFICATION FOR THE PROPOSED
CHANGED HEARING FOR PARCEL 14 OF THE OVIEDO MARKETPLACE
DRI [DEVELOPMENT OF REGIONAL IMP ACT] UNTIL THE SECOND -
REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING IN MARCH 2006, WHICH IS - I
BELIEVE THAT IS MARCH 27, 2006 PRESERVING THE ADVERTISING FOR
THE PUBLIC HEARING AS IT HAS ALREADY BEEN NOTIFIED." MOTION
BY DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS.
DISCUSSION.
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VOTE:
DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Discussion ensued regarding the proposed "Density" of the Development.
Mayor Bush remarked that Public Hearings Agenda Item, "'200' has been Postponed."
PUBLIC INPUT
Mr. Ron Goddard, 151 Stone Gable Circle, Winter Springs, Florida: commented on the
completion of the Villagio project.
In reference to the status of Villagio, City Manager Ronald W. McLemore stated, "As
long as - the activity continues it could stay in force forever. Now, when there is no
activity involved, I think, after six (6) months of - no activity at all - then it can be
terminated at that point in time."
Mr. Goddard commented on not being able to reach City Staff.
Discussion.
Mayor Bush said to Mr. Goddard, "When you call the City and you get a Secretary, if
you will call me and one of the Commissioners. We don't have Secretaries; so, we will
answer our phones. Our phone [numbers] are on the Website, if you don't know our
numbers."
Mr. Goddard added, "It cost our subdivision twenty-five hundred dollars ($2,500.00) to
increase the height of the wall behind our subdivision because the Developer refused
where they were two feet (2') lower in elevation than where our houses were. We had to
payout - of our Committee, twenty-five hundred dollars ($2,500.00)." Mayor Bush
interjected, "I don't think anybody on the Commission knew that..." Commissioner
Krebs stated, "... I didn't know it..." Mr. Goddard stated, "...I will have our President
come and present that."
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Commissioner McGinnis stated, "I am also concerned about that 'Outparcel' that is not
completed. I would like the City Manager to speak to that because I was told not long
ago there was going to be some action on it or, the City had contacted the Developer
regarding that. Can you bring me up-to-date on that?" Discussion.
Ms. Kasey Edwards, 100 Stone Gable Circle, Winter Springs, Florida: commented on
being in favor of the Dog Park; and spoke on issues with the Villagio dumpsters.
Next, discussion ensued regarding the dumpster location relative to public safety issues.
Commissioner Krebs asked, "Do you know if they have a dumpster in the back?"
Commissioner Krebs added, "Can we find out ifthey do, and if they don't, shouldn't they
be made to have one so that tenants can use that, and not of course, encouraged to throw
their trash where it belongs and not in the construction dumpster?" Manager McLemore
stated, "Yes."
Commissioner McGinnis commented that "It was the intent that there would be a
dumpster in the rear for the tenants to use. So, we need to be sure that that's in place."
Captain Glenn Tolleson, Police Department stated, "Yes." "And, the memo goes out
from the Builder to all the tenants that that is what they are using," added Commissioner
McGinnis. Captain Tolleson stated, "Yes."
Mayor Bush said to Manager McLemore, "Maybe the City can take a look at this
situation, maybe there is another solution for this dumpster in this location?"
Commissioner Miller stated, "Have the City Manager look into what the status of - that
'Outparcel' is right now; because there really has been nothing done on that, that I am
aware - I would like to say in about a year. And if that is the case, then maybe we ought
to just have the construction dumpster hauled away and have them put a regular dumpster
in the back. And then, they can bring the construction dumpster back at such time as they
get around to actively working on that building again."
Mr. Bob Rucci, 973 Turkey Hollow Circle, Winter Springs, Florida: spoke on the Dog
Park issue and Seminole County's involvement.
Discussion.
Commissioner Miller inquired, "Do we have a Meeting scheduled with the County at
some point in the next couple of weeks on this issue?" Manager McLemore stated, "Not
on this issue. Weare waiting on a verification of a Meeting on March 22nd [2006] for the
issue involving the East Rural Area. This is certainly something we can try and put on
that Agenda." Commissioner Miller stated, "I think we ought to."
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Mayor Bush read the names from the "Public Input" forms of individuals in favor of the
Dog Park and stated, "We are aware of your concerns."
Ms. Juanita Blumberg, 141 Doran Drive, Winter Springs, Florida: asked that the City
build a first class Dog Park right here in Winter Springs.
Commissioner McGinnis thanked Ms. Blumberg and said, "I concur with that. This has
gone on for three (3) years. One more go around, ask the County, but I am all for looking
at the possibility of putting a Dog Park in Winter Springs." Commissioner McGinnis
added, "I would like a more central location. I would like for us to start thinking about
what we could do, to do that in our City."
Mayor Bush asked Manager McLemore about the schedule for keeping the Dog Park
where it is. Manager McLemore stated, "Weare going to be bringing additional
information to you very soon about - where Reclamation is - that really is supposed to be
there for - your options would be - I'm saying that's probably three (3) years down the
road at a minimum."
Discussion.
Deputy Mayor Blake stated, "Something tells me that this Commission will make sure
that there will be one in the City someplace."
Next, Commissioner McGinnis spoke regarding having "Some land that the City owns,
having that appraised - well, I would suggest to you perhaps some of those lands could be
considered for this use too."
Mayor Bush stated, "I would like for the Commission to ask the Manager to - number
one, start a dialogue with the County, see if we can find what is going on there. Is it
really a dead issue, or not, and if it is, then to have the Manager to look around and see
if there are other places within the City that we could do this? Everybody in agreement
with that?" Commissioner McGinnis stated, "I suggest that we just do the City."
Commissioner Krebs stated, "I support both. Let us ask the County and then let us
also look in the City." No objections were noted.
Commissioner McGinnis stated, "We have had a dialogue with them for a long time, so, I
think we need to put a time limit on this." Mayor Bush stated, "Next Meeting. Mr.
McLemore, I am sure can find out what the County is going to do with this and then after
that - might need more time to look for land in the City."
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Mr. Colin W Morgan, 1679 Wingspan Way, Winter Springs, Florida: complimented the
City Commission; and also spoke on road conditions in the Glen Eagle subdivision.
Discussion.
Tape l/Side B
Further discussion ensued regarding roadways.
Commissioner Gilmore stated, "How often do we survey all of the streets in the City?"
Mr. Kip Lockcuff, P.E., Director, Public WorkslUtility Department stated, "We try to do
it once a year; and if you'd like, at the budget time this year we can come back with our
resurfacing list, we can present that to you." Commissioner Gilmore stated, "I would like
to see it, but I would think that we would - have a continual list going on constantly,
about the surveying of the streets, requirements and that. Is that being done?" Mr.
Lockcuff responded, "It is a dynamic list. Do we go out weekly and re-do it? No, we
don't. We're well aware of where the problems are." Commissioner Gilmore added, "I
would like to see all ofthat at budget time."
Discussion.
Mr. Gary Diller, 609 Nighthawk Circle, Winter Springs, Florida: representing a newly
formed group called the Winter Springs Golf Club Advocates, Mr. Diller spoke on their
efforts to keep the Winter Springs Golf Course, a golf course, and noted Petitions he had
related to this effort. The Petitions were then turned into the City.
Mayor Bush stated, "I think it would be worth your time to go to the County Commission
and also ask for their assistance in helping us because that course is used by many people
who live in Seminole County other than just Winter Springs residents." Mayor Bush
added, "I think it would be nice if you could present that same Petition with those names
on it to just show the County Commission that these just aren't Winter Springs people
playing this Golf Course." Mr. Diller asked, "Who would I need to talk to, to find out
how we go about that?" Mayor Bush stated, "... The County..." Mr. Diller stated,
"...Yes." Mayor Bush added, "I will call you." Mr. Diller said, "Okay. Fine. And,
we'll be more than glad to do that."
Mr. Thomas Gergen, 922 Torrey Pine Drive, Winter Springs, Florida: remarked that
regarding Regular Agenda Item "301", he was opposed to allowing the recreational
vehicle; and submitted Petitions from residents also opposed to this recreational vehicle.
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Ms. JoAnn Mattie, 685 Fortrose Drive, Winter Springs, Florida: Mayor Bush stated,
"Did not wish to address the Commission - you are opposed also to [Regular Agenda
Item] '301' - you are opposed to them parking it there."
Mr. Abel Gaibort, 1315 Deer Run, Winter Springs, Florida: commented that he was not
aware of the Recreational Vehicle Code when he bought the house.
Ms. Yvonne Paul, 1215 Deer Run Drive, Winter Springs, Florida: noted she was
opposed to the oversized recreational vehicle in her community.
Mr. Eli Petrack, 20 Tarpon Circle, Winter Springs, Florida: noted he was opposed to
allowing the recreational vehicle to stay in the community.
Ms. Linda Wheeler, 417-24 Sheoah Boulevard, Winter Springs, Florida: commented on
having Petitions to keep the Winter Springs Golf Club and submitted those to the City.
Commissioner Miller noted for the Record there was a Resolution related to an Easement
over the entire Golf Course.
Commissioner McGinnis stated, "After we signed that Resolution, I sent a memo and a
copy of that to the Highlands Board along with a copy of a newspaper article - what was
going on." Commissioner McGinnis noted for the Record, "They have been notified by
me. I also asked them to feel free to call me, I would speak to them, answer any
questions. I haven't heard any word."
Mayor Bush introduced former Commissioner Edward Martinez, Jr., and former Mayor
Paul P. Partyka.
Mr. Edward Martinez, Jr., 205 Little Creek Lane, Winter Springs, Florida: speaking on
behalf of the Tuscawilla Homeowners Association, Mr. Martinez asked that an Agenda
Item be presented in two (2) weeks, related to installing two (2) flagpoles at the entrance
of Winter Springs Boulevard.
Commissioner Gilmore stated, "I don't think, personally that this is an issue yet that
should come to this Commission. I think we need to let the THOA [Tuscawilla
Homeowners Association], the TLBD [Tuscawilla Lighting and Beautification District]
people and others take a look at it and come up with a solution. I am not saying this is a
dead issue."
Mr. Martinez then read a statement related to development, the Town Center, and the
Winter Springs Golf Course.
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Discussion.
Dr. Neil R. Backus, 110 East Panama Road, Winter Springs, Florida: suggested a
"Design change on [State Road] 434 corridor - where Belle Avenue is, to put a traffic
light there and align the entrance to the golf course with Belle Avenue, because you've
got commercial property coming out of Belle Avenue and it is hard to get out of the Golf
Course. "
Dr. Backus then stated, "I was interested in that one and a third acre, where the children's
rescue house was, that you tore down as a historical society building, 1 was going to re-
claim that and donate it to the City. But, there was a little girl who had to cross there that
was killed right on the comer of Belle Avenue, on the way to - recite the Pledge of
Allegiance at the Elementary School PTA [Parent-Teacher's Association] and 1 would
like to find out, if anything - in the line of a plaque or anything, was ever given to her or
maybe put in the Elementary School in her honor. 1 would like to contribute to that if it
has not been done."
AWARDS AND PRESENTATIONS
AWARDS AND PRESENT A nONS
100. None
PUBLIC HEARINGS AGENDA
PUBLIC HEARINGS
200. Community Development Department - Planning Division
Requests That The City Commission Hold A Public Hearing To Consider A
Notification Of Proposed Change (NOPC) To Parcel 14 Of The Oviedo Marketplace
Development Of Regional Impact (DRI) By The Viera Company.
As discussed earlier, this Agenda Item was Postponed.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
201. Public Works Department
Requests The City Commission Approve Resolution 2006-10 Allowing For On Street
Parking On George Street By Resolution.
Mr. Lockcuff presented this Agenda Item.
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Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
Ms. Rebecca Howie, 500 George Street, Winter Springs, Florida: suggested wider
sidewalks be installed, and said she was in favor of parking and thought the street should
be one-way.
Ms. Ann Hansen, 502 George Street, Winter Springs, Florida: commented that George
Street should be a one-way street and suggested "curbs that you cannot drive off on."
Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
Discussion ensued on the possibility of this being a one-way street. Captain Tolleson
commented on the parking and added, "Didn't really explore the one-way."
Commissioner Miller stated, "I would like information from the Police Department,
maybe - at the next Meeting that we have as to why that can't be done. I would like to
see some reasons why that can't be done. Second point would be, I thought it was our
intention - when we were discussing the Resolution of the parking problem on - George
Street about a year or two (2) ago, that we were going to allow people to park in that park
area - we were also going to put up a buffer of trees which we have already started to do,
or we've already done." Commissioner Miller added, "If I misunderstood and that
wasn't the intention, then I think we seriously should take a look - while we're doing the
sidewalk renewal there, maybe put in some gravel or something on the other side of the
street. "
Furthermore, Commissioner Miller stated, "I think one-way would be a good approach to
partially solving the problem. The second item would be to maybe put a gravel area
across the street and then put some kind of wooden post in the ground or steel post, where
you can't go beyond that - that looks attractive or - wood or something. And then, make
that parallel parking on the street so that people could still go up and down the street and
not have to park on the sidewalk in front of their house." Furthermore, Commissioner
Miller said to Mr. Lockcuff, "You are doing a good job as it is - I would ask you to get
together with - City Staff and Law Enforcement and look at the possibility of somehow
widening that street - with gravel." Commissioner Miller added, "Make it a one-way
street. "
Commissioner McGinnis asked Mr. Lockcuff, "Is there additional curbing - improvement
in the curbing? Because I believe that is a problem too." With further discussion,
Commissioner McGinnis stated, "And the flood?" Mr. Lockcuff stated, "I am not aware
of that. We can look and see what the issue is there." Commissioner McGinnis noted,
"That was an issue that I heard from almost everybody. There is flooding every time it
rains on the sidewalks." Additionally, Commissioner McGinnis remarked, "So to make
repairs, the sidewalks are not improved - the curbing might not be - I would recommend
that you look at that." Mr. Lockcuffstated, "No problem."
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Tape 2/Side A
With discussion, Commissioner Krebs asked, "Do we have guidelines or criteria that we
follow to make it so, so to speak, to allow this parking on the street?" Mr. Lockcuff
stated, "We have not developed specifics. This is actually the first one. That is why I
hoped you would give us some latitude." Furthermore, Commissioner Krebs stated, "I
also think that we need to be careful and at least have some type of criteria, similar to
when we issue a Variance or as such."
Discussion.
Deputy Mayor Blake stated, "Have we discussed whether or not the sidewalks are the
appropriate width? Have we discussed whether or not the sidewalks - drain well during
rainy events. Have we discussed whether or not we need to have the curbs changed in
terms of design? Their size? What the effect of that might be? Have we discussed
whether or not we should park on the east side or the west side of the street? Have we
discussed whether or not it should be a one-way road or not?" Deputy Mayor Blake
added, "Can't we get just the right solution and have Staff bring that to us, once?"
Deputy Mayor Blake then said, "I don't think thru-traffic there to any degree, do you?"
Mr. Lockcuff noted that "People have complained to me that it is a very common
turnaround for the car dealerships on (U.S. Highway) 17-92." Mr. Lockcuff added,
"That's why I would ask for the latitude for the Police Department and the County to
determine which side it is. And if one side works better than the other, then we can
change it. Not so much commit at this level to it, but allow that to be on the
implementation." Deputy Mayor Blake asked, "Is there some way for us..." Mr.
Lockcuff noted, "... We can report back..." Deputy Mayor Blake continued, "... To
minimize that issue?" Captain Tolleson stated, "Yes. We can assist with that. We can
talk to the dealerships about an alternative place to turnaround."
Next, Deputy Mayor Blake stated, "The issue of parking on one side of the street or the
other, I understand crossing the street to get to your cars, but I am really more concerned
about if we are improving the sidewalk or repairing the sidewalk to bring it up to
standards, and then cars won't be parked on the sidewalk; and the issue of kids going
between parked cars, out onto the street." Deputy Mayor Blake added, "Have we thought
about making it a 'Dead-end' street, closing it off on one (1) end, and using some of the
green space out there to develop a cul-de-sac?" Mr. Lockcuff stated, "Yes. We - did
look at that - did not recommend that at all."
Discussion.
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"I AM GOING TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THIS
RESOLUTION 2006-10 WITH THE PROVISO THAT STAFF WITHIN ONE (1)
MONTH BRING BACK A CONSENT AGENDA ITEM - INFORMATIONAL -
REGULAR. THE CITY MANAGER SAYS REGULAR - A REGULAR ITEM, IN
WHICH YOU ADDRESS ALL OF THE ISSUES THAT WERE RAISED HERE
THIS EVENING THAT ARE NOT PERTINENT TO THE RESOLUTION. IN
OTHER WORDS POTENTIAL ROUNDABOUT; CUL-DE-SAC; MAKING IT
ONE-WAY; CURBS; WIDENING THE ROADWAY; PUTTING PARKING ON
WHICHEVER SIDE OF THE STREET, ETCETERAS, ETCETERAS
ETCETERAS - IT IS ALL ON THE TAPE." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER
MILLER. SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE. DISCUSSION.
MAYOR BUSH STATED, "I LIKE KIP'S [LOCKCUFF] COMMENT ABOUT A
WORK IN PROGRESS AND TRYING TO SEE WHAT WORKS. I THOUGHT
THAT WAS A GOOD ANSWER."
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Commissioner Miller noted, "I would ask you to contact your residents in your
neighborhood also and tell them this is going to be on the Agenda, to watch for it."
PUBLIC HEARINGS
202. Not Used
PUBLIC HEARINGS
203. Community Development Department
Requests That The Commission Approve The Backus Lot Split, And Authorize Its
Recordation - Conservation Easement Agreement And Resolution Number 2006-15.
Mr. John Baker, A1CP, Senior Planner, Community Development Department presented
this Agenda Item and stated, "It does meet the Code; it does meet the Comprehensive
Plan; and the Staff recommends approval subject to the Findings that we've set forth in
our recommendation; the City Attorney's review and approval that they document their
property taxes and they pay for the recordation."
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Discussion.
Attorney Garganese stated, "This is a new Ordinance. The Commission adopted it last
year. There is certain Criteria that needs to be applied and I appreciate Mr. Baker's
comments that they've reviewed it and find that - the Application generally meets the
Criteria. But I think it would be nice - to remind the Commission what that Criteria is
because it is not laid out in the Agenda Item for you." Mr. Baker reviewed the Criteria.
Manager McLemore stated, "My only comment is to remind the Commission - John
[Baker] was very thorough - as I recall the testimony in that issue, when this came up
before, took an hour or so, there was quite a bit of testimony about it." Manager
McLemore continued, "There were people there providing - a fair amount of opposition
to this. Of course, that was before this Ordinance - that is a part of the Record."
Commissioner Krebs stated, "In going forward, if you could offer those Criteria in the
items, Ron [McLemore] it would be beneficial. And, then the Findings and the reasons
you found. I am curious - Attachment' A' , and it would have been nice to know what the
other sizes of the lots, immediately surrounding this lot are. So that is either going to
speak to what you found, or it is going to tell us a different story, so I would have like to
have seen that for this item." Manager McLemore remarked, "We would agree."
Further discussion ensued.
Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
Mr. Paul Rosu, 2106 Kilamanjaro Court, Apopka, Florida: commented on the history of
the homes in the Ranchlands.
Dr. Neil R. Backus, 110 East Panama Road, Winter Springs, Florida: spoke about his
property.
Tape 2/Side B
Further discussion.
Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion o/the Agenda Item.
"I THINK THAT THE FINDINGS ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE
COMMUNITY; THE COMP (COMPREHENSIVE) PLAN; AND IT MEETS THE
CODE; AND I RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF ITEM '203'." MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. COMMISSIONER McGINNIS FURTHER
STATED, "I MOVE." SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE.
DISCUSSION.
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VOTE:
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE ("I WOULD LIKE US - TO TAKE A LOOK
AT SOME OTHER ISSUES THAT ANTHONY [GARGANESE] BOUGHT UP.")
DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: NAY
MOTION CARRIED.
Attorney Garganese stated, "I just want to make sure the Record is really clear.
Commissioner Krebs wants us to go back and take a look at any bumping up the
minimum lot size requirements for the Ranchlands area." Commissioner Krebs stated,
"Yes." Deputy Mayor Blake added, "If an individual Commissioner wants that subject to
be brought up, they probably should go to the City Manager and ask about it. He can
have Staff put together some information for the rest of us to look at."
Attorney Garganese stated for the Record, "If that's what the direction of the
Commission is, just to at least go back and look at it and bring information back to the
Commission so that you all can make an educated decision? I would just like that clear
on the Record that there is - a majority of the consent of the Commission to do that for a
pending Ordinance reason."
Mayor Bush stated, "Do we have Consensus of the Commission on this -
Commissioner Krebs's suggestion?" Commissioner Miller remarked, "You have got
mine. "
Deputy Mayor Blake stated, "What the Commissioner is asking, and I will concur, is
information, but it should not, I think, be a pre-supposed decision that this
Commission might be looking to make in finding a way to get there." Deputy Mayor
Blake added, "If our Staff sees this Commission struggling with an issue and knows of
information that they can seek out, find and bring to us for further clarity, even if that
information may provide some future action, that is fine. But, I am very
uncomfortable with a Consensus of the Commission that suggests an intended action
that might be something that would involve a pending Ordinance doctrine on a Land-
Use issue for something that we don't know anything about yet. "
Mayor Bush stated, "Commissioner Krebs, do you think Consensus then would be on
bringing back information regarding this topic that was discussed tonight?"
Commissioner Krebs remarked, "It always was." Commissioner McGinnis stated,
''Alright, just an Information Item." Commissioner Gilmore stated, "No." Deputy
Mayor Blake stated, "I always love more information." Commissioner Miller also said,
"I always love more information." Mayor Bush stated, "Four to one (4 - 1). "
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.:..:. AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING REGULAR AGENDA ITEMS
WERE DISCUSSED IN THE ORDER AS DOCUMENTED. .:..:.
REGULAR AGENDA
REGULAR
301. Police Department - Code Enforcement Bureau
Presents To The City Commission The Request Of Mr. Able Gailbort To Park An
Oversized Recreational Vehicle At His Residence Located At 1315 Deer Run,
Winter Springs, Florida.
Captain Tolleson spoke on this Agenda Item and stated, "It is our recommendation to
deny this Request."
Mr. Abel Gaibort, 1315 Deer Run, Winter Springs, Florida: addressed the City
Commission on his Request.
Discussion.
"I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO DENY THE REQUEST."
MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER
McGINNIS. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
DEPUTYMAYORBLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: NAY
MOTION CARRIED.
Mayor Bush called a Recess at 9:15 p.m.
Mayor Bush called the Meeting back to Order at 9:28 p.m.
REGULAR
308. Community Development Department - Planning Division
Requests That The Commission Review The Conceptual Plan For The West End
Professional Center.
Mr. Randy Stevenson, ASLA, Director, Community Development Department presented
this Agenda Item.
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Mr. Bill Starmer, Architect, Starmer, Ranaldi Planning and Architecture (sri), 890
Northern Way, Winter Springs, Florida: commented on the architectural features and
the Conceptual Plan.
With discussion, Commissioner Miller stated, "There should be a fountain on the North
elevation." Mr. Starmer stated, "There will be an architectural feature there, whether it is
a fountain, or a sculpture, or whether it is a garden - that has yet to be determined and we
will bring that up in the Aesthetic Review."
"I MOVE WE ACCEPT THE A TT ACHED CONCEPT PLAN TONIGHT
SUBJECT TO ANY DEVIATIONS IN THE CODE THAT WE WILL ADDRESS
AT A LATER TIME." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER KREBS. DISCUSSION.
ATTORNEY GARGANESE STATED, "JUST SO THE RECORD IS CLEAR - IN
THE REPORT; IT IS SUBJECT TO STAFF AND CITY COMMISSION
APPROVAL; THE FINAL ENGINEERING DOCUMENTS; DEVELOPMENT
AGREEMENT; AND AESTHETIC REVIEW." DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE
ADDED, "I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE IT IS VERY CLEAR THAT
CERTAIN DEVIATIONS OR VARIATIONS OR - VARIANCES FROM THE
CODE WERE NOT BEING GRANTED AT THIS LEVEL."
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
REGULAR
303. Finance Department
Requesting The Commission To Adopt Resolution Number 2006-14, Accepting The
Proposal From Wachovia Bank, National Association (N.A.) To Provide The City
With A Loan In The Amount Of $430,000.00 To Finance The Tuscawilla
Beautification and Lighting District's (TLBD) Phase II Construction Project.
Ms. Michelle Greco, Director, Finance Department stated, "Tonight we are here to
finalize the Bank Loan for the TLBD [Tuscawilla Beautification and Lighting District]
Phase II construction project.
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Mr. Jay Glover, Public Financial Management, Inc., 300 South Orange Avenue, Suite
1170, Orlando, Florida: as the City's Financial Advisor, Mr. Glover commented on this
Bank Loan.
Mr. Michael D. Williams, Esquire, Akerman Senterfitt, 420 South Orange Avenue, Suite
1200, Orlando, Florida: also spoke on the Bank Loan.
Ms. Greco commented on speakers for the Record.
"MOTION TO APPROVE [AGENDA] ITEM '303', RESOLUTION 2006-14."
MOTION BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER
GILMORE. DISCUSSION.
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS ADDED "EMPOWER THE CITY MANAGER,
MAYOR, AND THE STAFF TO FACILITATE, TAKE WHATEVER ACTIONS
ARE NECESSARY TO FACILITATE THE CLOSING OF THE FINANCING."
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER GILMORE. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
REGULAR
300. Office Of The City Manager
Requesting That The City Commission Approve The FY (Fiscal Year) 2007 Budget
Calendar.
Manager McLemore presented this Agenda Item.
Mayor Bush stated, "I would like to see July without anything." Commissioner Krebs
added, "Absolutely."
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With discussion on Budget Workshops, Commissioner Miller suggested, "1 think it
would be useful to have a Workshop, maybe or two (2) sometime in June, before the 19th
where if possible, the City Manager could put on the Table, some of the major issues that
are of concern to him, that are eventually going to come forward. He must know right
now, what some of these issues are - have a ballpark understanding what they are; and 1
think it would also give us an opportunity to maybe comment on some of the things that
we would like to see..." Commissioner Gilmore added, "... That is a good idea..."
Commissioner Miller added, "... Thought about, so that we can maybe bring them up in
one or two of the Commission Meetings."
Ms. Greco spoke for the Record on scheduled vacations.
With discussion, Manager McLemore suggested, "1 would suggest we do that in April."
Commissioner Krebs stated, "Every year, the Budget is the same time. 1 know in my
business, there are days we don't take vacations because it is the nature of the beast. And
so - 1 really would like to get this early. 1 don't want to get stuck like last time, and 1
really think, really Mayor, 1 really think we need to get it done. And 1 don't think
vacations are an excuse." Mayor Bush noted, "1 think that the Commission's vacation
schedule should take precedence over the Staffs vacation schedule, because it is our job
to do this, and Staff works for the Commission. So, 1 think that maybe what the
Commission needs to do is submit their vacation schedules as well, and then let the
Manager and Staff work around them, instead of the other way around." Commissioner
Miller commented, "1 would rather do it earlier." Mayor Bush added, "The earlier the
better." Mayor Bush suggested, "What 1 would like to recommend is that for those of us
here who do have vacation schedules, that we submit these to Mr. McLemore, if you do
have one - and then he would come back with a revised schedule."
Commissioner Gilmore inquired, "Can't we at least get an indication of what projects we
have; what projects you and your Staff want to do; what staffing levels you want to go to,
where our problems are. You should know all of those now, we shouldn't have to wait
until three (3) months from now. 1 would think you'd have been gathering this
information from your Staff - start feeding it to us. Don't wait until the end date and then
we have to see it. 1 would like to see this stuff as it is brought in."
Manager McLemore commented that, "What 1 would suggest to you is that we have a
kind of policy level of discussion with you, and let you express to me those things that
are of a concern and importance to you, and that could help us."
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Commissioner Krebs asked Manager McLemore, "When will you have the information
about how much money we have?" Manager McLemore responded, "In June - after June
15th, third week of June - so, it's really around the first of July before we really know
how much money we have."
Regarding possible dates, Manager McLemore stated, "For Oviedo, is April the 4th, is
the last date they submitted."
For a Budget Workshop, Mayor Bush asked, "April the 3rd?" Deputy Mayor Blake
commented, "1 am good then." Commissioner McGinnis said, "Okay." Mayor Bush
added, "6:30 {p.m.}." Mayor Bush summarized, "Monday, April the 3rd {2006} - 6:30
{p.m.}." Commissioner McGinnis remarked, "Yes." No objections were noted. Mayor
Bush added, "We are agreed on that." Mayor Bush added, "We will call this a
Workshop." Commissioner Miller remarked, "Yes."
Commissioner Krebs suggested that, "If possible, you could do a couple of them
together." Furthermore, Commissioner Krebs added, "Successive nights, that might be
easier. "
Mayor Bush suggested, "I think it would be a good idea if we could give the Manager
those dates between the June 20th and July 17th that you would have conflicts, so he can
- come back with some suggestions for us."
"MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM '300' WITH THE ADDITION OF THE
WORKSHOP ON APRIL 3RD, [2006]." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER
MILLER. SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE. DISCUSSION. MAYOR
BUSH ADDED, "6:30 [P.M.]."
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
REGULAR
302. Office Of The City Manager
Requesting The City Commission To Approve Resolution Number 2006-13,
Amending The City Of Winter Springs Defined Benefit Pension Plan To Provide
For A Voluntary Election Of Distributions From The Plan Where The Present
Value Does Not Exceed $3,500.00.
Mr. Kevin Smith, Director, General Services Department presented this Agenda Item.
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"I RECOMMEND THAT WE APPROVE RESOLUTION 2006-13." MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER MILLER. MAYOR BUSH STATED, "SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS." DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
REGULAR
304. Not Used
REGULAR
305. Not Used
REGULAR
306. Not Used
REGULAR
307. Office Of The City Manager
Requesting The City Commission To Authorize The City Manager To Send A
Formal Letter To The County Charter Amendment Committee Opposing Proposed
Section 1.2 Prohibiting The Use Of Eminent Domain.
"MOTION TO APPROVE." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS.
MOTION DIED FOR LACK OF A SECOND.
Much discussion.
Mayor Bush said to the Commissioners, ~~I would like to recommend - that we go. I
will be glad to do this, or one of the Commissioners, is to go to the Charter Review
Committee; express some of the concerns that have been brought up here and just
bring them to their attention." Commissioner Miller stated, "Put it in writing." Mayor
Bush said, "Yes."
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No objections were noted by the City Commission. Mayor Bush commented,
"Everybody in agreement with that - that that is the way to approach it? And Mr.
McLemore and I will work up something and we will pass it by you all, far in
advance. "
With discussion, Mayor Bush added, "Well, is everybody in agreement with - and, this
will come before you, before we take it to the Review Committee anyway. "
REGULAR
309. Office Of The City Manager
ADD-ON
Requesting The City Commission Adopt A Revised Solid Waste Rate Resolution
(Number 2006-16) To Reconcile And Correct Minor Discrepancies In The
Calculation Of Commercial Franchise Fees.
Mr. Smith briefly presented this Agenda Item.
"I JUST MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION 2006-16." MOTION
BY DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS.
DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
REGULAR
310. Office Of The Mayor
ADD-ON
Requesting The City Commission To Approve Resolution Number 2006-17
Supporting The Development Of A Medical Facility Within The City Of Oviedo.
Mayor Bush briefly introduced this Agenda Item.
"I MAKE A MOTION TO UNANIMOUSLY APPROVE RESOLUTION 2006-17."
MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER
KREBS. DISCUSSION.
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VOTE:
DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
CONSENT AGENDA
CONSENT
400. Office Of The City Manager
Requesting The City Commission To Authorize The Pension Attorney To Revise
And Update The City Of Winter Springs Defined Benefit Pension Plan.
Discussion ensued on the Pension Plan document, to which Deputy Mayor Blake
suggested, "I would highly recommend making a couple of phone calls to a few other
folks that do this professionally and find out what it would cost to have the Plan
Document restated."
Further discussion.
"I WOULD SUGGEST - WE TABLE THIS UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING AND
HAVE THE CITY MANAGER OR STAFF, SOMEONE CHECK AROUND..."
MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MILLER. MAYOR BUSH STATED,
"...MOTION TO TABLE..." COMMISSIONER MILLER CONTINUED BY
SAYING, "...AND BRING IT BACK." SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER
KREBS. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: NAY
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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CONSENT
401. Office Of The City Manager
Requesting The City Commission To Authorize The City Manager To Issue An RFP
(Request For Proposal) For Procurement Of On-Going 3rd Party Pension Advisory
Services To The City Of Winter Springs Defined Benefit Pension Plan And Bring
Back The Results Of The RFP (Request For Proposal) To The Commission For
Selection.
This Agenda Item was not discussed.
.:..:. AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING CONSENT AGENDA ITEM WAS
DISCUSSED NEXT, WITH AN INDIVIDUAL VOTE ON THIS CONSENT
AGENDA ITEM, AS DOCUMENTED. .:..:.
CONSENT AGENDA
CONSENT
402. Office Of The City Manager - Urban Beautification Services Division
Requesting The City Commission To Find That A Partnership Agreement Between
J.D.C. And The City Of Winter Springs To Upgrade Landscaping Of The Fountain
Circle In The Town Center Fulfills An Important Public Purpose, And Authorize
The City Manager To Enter Into A Partnership Agreement With J.D.C. To Fund
50% (Fifty Percent) Of The Cost Of The Upgrade.
Mr. Steven Richart, Urban Beautification Division Services Manager, Community
Development Department presented this Agenda Item.
With discussion, Commissioner Miller spoke for the Record on a "Point of Clarification"
regarding trees being planted on State Road 434.
Commissioner Krebs stated "Point of Order",
"MOTION TO EXTEND." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER KREBS.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MILLER. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Further discussion.
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Commissioner Miller said to Manager McLemore, "Listen to the tape - I think we ought
to look seriously at - if we are going to spend eight thousand dollars ($8,000.00) because
we saved that on trees that we got a good deal on Miller's Road, down there on [State
Road] 434, we probably could have put in more trees on Miller's Road which I don't
object to at all, by the way." Commissioner Miller added, "I would like to see the City
look at - maybe getting Mr. Doran to do this and we will further enhance his property by
putting the eight thousand dollars ($8,000.00) into foliage elsewhere."
Mayor Bush asked, "Do you want to pull this off the Consent Agenda?" Commissioner
Krebs said, "I want to Vote on it."
"MOTION TO APPROVE." MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: NAY
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
AGENDA NOTE: THE REST OF THE CONSENT AGENDA WAS
DISCUSSED NEXT, AS DOCUMENTED. .:..:.
CONSENT AGENDA
CONSENT
403. Office Of The City Clerk
Respectfully Requests That The City Commission Consider And Approve
Resolution 2006-15, And Also Requests That The Mayor On Behalf Of The City
Commission Sign A Related Letter Of Support, Offering City Clerk Andrea
Lorenzo-Luaces, CMC, The Mayor And City Commission's Endorsement For City
Clerk Lorenzo-Luaces To Possibly Submit Her Name As A Nominee For Central
East District Director For The Florida Association Of City Clerks.
No discussion.
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CONSENT
404. Office Of The City Clerk
Requesting Approval Of The February 13, 2006 Regular City Commission Meeting
Minutes.
There was no discussion on this Agenda Item.
CONSENT
405. Public Works Department - Utility Department
Requesting Approval To Enter Into A Contract For The Upgrade Of The Electrical
Wiring And Equipment At Water Treatment Plant #3.
With discussion, Commissioner Gilmore stated, "I would like a tour."
CONSENT
406. Office Of The City Manager
Requesting The City Commission To Approve Settlement With Mark And
Elizabeth Walters Resulting From Sewer System Back-Ups During Hurricane
Charley And Approval Of A Supplemental Appropriation From Utility Fund
Reserves For Funding Of The City Portion Of This Settlement.
Discussion ensued with Mr. Smith and Manager McLemore.
CONSENT
407. Office Of The City Manager
Requesting The City Commission To Approve A Supplemental Appropriation From
Utility Fund Reserves To Fund Settlements Of Storm Related Damages Resulting
From Sewer System Back-Ups During Hurricane Charley.
This Agenda Item was not discussed.
CONSENT
408. Public Works Department - Utility Department
Requesting Additional Funding For The Construction Of Well #4.
Brief discussion.
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CONSENT
409. Parks And Recreation Department
Requesting The City Commission To Authorize The City Manager To Execute The
Agreement Between The City Of Winter Springs And Infinity Broadcasting For
July 4, 2006, Sponsors, Vendors, And Promotion.
There was no discussion on this Agenda Item.
"MOTION TO APPROVE" CONSENT AGENDA, NOT INCLUDING CONSENT
AGENDA ITEM "402" WHICH WAS ALREADY VOTED ON. MAYOR BUSH
STATED, "MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MILLER. SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER GILMORE." DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
INFORMATIONAL AGENDA
INFORMATIONAL
500. Community Development Department
Advising The City Commission Of The Status Of Various Current Planning
Projects.
There was no discussion on this Agenda Item.
INFORMATIONAL
501. Parks And Recreation Department
Wishes To Inform The City Commission Of The Board Of County Commissioners
Direction On The Planning Of Jetta Point Park And Soldiers Creek Park.
Mr. Chuck Pula, Director, Parks and Recreation Department answered questions about
this Agenda Item.
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INFORMATIONAL
502. Public Works Department
Advising The City Commission Of The Status Of Various Capital Improvement
Projects.
No discussion.
INFORMATIONAL
503. Information Services Department
Wishes To Inform The Commission Of A New Program Being Rolled Out From The
City's Website That Will Enable Individuals To Sign-Up For Emergency Alerts
From The City.
This Agenda Item was not discussed.
"MOTION TO APPROVE INFORMATIONAL." MOTION BY DEPUTY
MAYOR BLAKE. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS.
DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
REPORTS
REPORTS
600. Office Of The City Attorney - Anthony A. Garganese, Esquire
No Report.
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REPORTS
601. Office Of The City Manager - Ronald W. McLemore
Manager McLemore stated, "I would like to have a Special Meeting with you, if possible
in the immediate future, to talk about the Town Center - about the parking issue. If
anyway possible, I would like to do that next week." Deputy Mayor Blake stated,
"Monday the 6th [March]." Manager McLemore added, "We have Monday the 6th on the
table." Commissioner McGinnis stated, "Okay." Commissioner Krebs stated, "Okay."
Mayor Bush stated, "That is the night of the Charter Review Committee."
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Mayor Bush added, "6:30 [p.m.]?" Manager McLemore stated, "Works for me." Mayor
Bush stated, "Special, it is a Special Meeting, or a Workshop?" Manager McLemore
stated, "Special - Workshop." Mayor Bush stated, "It is a Workshop at 6:30 [p.m.]
March the 6th [2006]. 6:30 [p.m.]. Monday."
Also, Manager McLemore stated, "Just to make sure you are aware that I have had a
request by Bill Reischmann to be on your - Agenda in March to come forward to talk
about recreational issues." Mayor Bush stated, "Has he met with Chuck [Pula] -
wouldn't it make sense that he would meet with Chuck [Pula], before he would come to
the Commission?" Manager McLemore stated, "He certainly will." Discussion.
REPORTS
602. Office Of The City Clerk - Andrea Lorenzo-Luaces, CMC
Deputy City Clerk Debbie Franklin did not have any Report.
REPORTS
603. Commission Seat Four - Sally McGinnis
Commissioner McGinnis inquired about the Phone Operator position in City Hall. Ms.
Joanne Dalka, Director, Information Services Department stated that there is "We just
started advertising - this week for that position. I anticipate within probably a month, the
position will be filled."
Discussion ensued about Staff contacting the Florida Department of Transportation
regarding access issues and businesses on State Road 434.
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Commissioner McGinnis stated, "Workforce Housing - they have issued a final report. 1
have a copy of it. 1 would be happy to give this to the City Clerk. 1 urge you to read it.
This is one of the priorities of the Florida League of Cities." Commissioner McGinnis
added, "Yes, he would be willing to come to our Commission and do a Workshop."
Furthermore, Commissioner McGinnis noted, "I would like for us to have him come and
do a Workshop here, talk to us about what Workforce Housing is, what it does to a
community, what it doesn't do to a community." Commissioner McGinnis added, "I will
give this to the City Clerk."
Manager McLemore stated, "What is the Commission's desire here?" Commissioner
Krebs stated, "1 would like a Workshop. 1 agree. 1 think it is very, very serious."
Commissioner Miller remarked, "1 would like to see it done sometime in the Summer. "
Commissioner McGinnis stated, "1 am asking for a Consensus that we contact the
State Department - Affordable Housing - someone do a Workshop for us on Workforce
Housing." Commissioner Krebs stated, "Do we have Consensus on the
Commissioner's recommendation?" Commissioner Krebs stated, "1 am good with it."
Commissioner Gilmore stated, "Yes." Deputy Mayor Blake nodded in affirmation.
Commissioner Miller stated, "Sure." Mayor Bush said, "We have Consensus and Mr.
McLemore then will locate this person after the Budget is over - after the Budget
process." Commissioner Krebs added, "1 agree with you Commissioner McGinnis, as
far as putting aside properties to accommodate our workforce. "
REPORTS
604. Commission Seat Five - Joanne M. Krebs
Commissioner Krebs asked "What is the schedule is for the Straw Ballot - for the
Sidewalks and where we are at?" Mr. Lockcuff stated, "You're talking about Dyson..."
Commissioner Krebs stated, "... Yes." Mr. Lockcuff then explained, "We just gave Ron
[McLemore] the draft, information letter, and the ballot today, so we are hoping to have it
out probably by the end ofthe week."
Commissioner Krebs stated, "I was wondering if this Commission would entertain the
idea of changing our Meeting time. 1 have had many contacts from many people that
either frequent the Chambers or would like to. And, the fact that the Meetings are being
so early, they just are not able to make them." Commissioner Krebs then stated, "Would
the Commission entertain that idea?"
Commissioner Krebs added, "My suggestion would be 7:00 [p.m.] or 7:30 [p.m.]."
Commissioner Krebs asked, "Would you consider 7:00 [p.m.]?" Commissioner
McGinnis stated, "Yes."
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With discussion on the length of Meetings, Mayor Bush suggested, "One of the things
that would really help, if you have Consent Agenda Items, you talk to the Manager or the
Staff prior to this."
"I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE - GO TO STARTING OUR
MEETINGS, OUR OFFICIAL MEETINGS AT 7:00 P.M." MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER KREBS. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS.
DISCUSSION.
"WE START AT 6:00 [P.M.], WHERE WE DISCUSS INFORMATION AND
CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS AND THEN WE WOULD BE ABLE TO START
THE REAL BUSINESS OF THE MEETING AT 6:30 [P.M.] AND WE WOULD
BE OUT OF HERE BY 10:00 [P.M.]." AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER MILLER.
MOTION DIED FOR LACK OF A SECOND.
"I WOULD LIKE TO AMEND THE MOTION MAYOR, THAT THIS BE A
THREE (3) MONTH TRIAL - TO SUNSET - ON THE FINAL MEETING OF
MAY 2006." AMENEDMENT TO THE MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR
BLAKE. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MILLER. DISCUSSION.
"I WILL AMEND THE AMENDED MOTION TO MAKE IT SIXTY (60) DAYS."
AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDED MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MILLER.
MOTION DIED FOR LACK OF A SECOND.
COMMISSIONER KREBS ASKED, "WHAT ARE WE VOTING ON?" MAYOR
BUSH STATED, "THE AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION WHERE THE
MEETINGS WOULD START AT 7:00 [P.M.] AND FOR A TRIAL PERIOD TO
EXPIRE AFTER THE MEETING, SECOND MEETING IN MAY 2006. IS THAT
CORRECT, MR. BLAKE?" DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE STATED, "YES."
COMMISSIONER MILLER STATED, "COMMISSIONER KREBS BROUGHT
IT UP FOR WHAT REASON? I WOULD LIKE HER TO RESTATE THE
REASON BECAUSE AS I UNDERSTAND IT THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF
COMPLAINTS FROM PEOPLE THAT HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO..."
COMMISSIONER KREBS STATED, "...NOT COMPLAINTS..."
COMMISSIONER MILLER STATED, "...COMMENTS. THAT A LOT OF
PEOPLE HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO ATTEND THEIR ISSUES..."
COMMISSIONER KREBS STATED, "...CORRECT..." COMMISSIONER
MILLER STATED, "...SO AGAIN I WOULD RAISE THE ORIGINAL ISSUE
JUST IN PASSING - WHICH WAS THAT IF WE START IT AT 6:00 [P.M.]; WE
CAN GET THE AGENDA - ALL OF THE CONSENT..." COMMISSIONER
KREBS STATED, "...IT IS DIFFICULT FOR ME TO MAKE IT HERE AT 6:00
[P.M.] BECAUSE I WORK."
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VOTE: (ON THE AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION)
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: NAY
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: NAY
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
COMMISSIONER MILLER STATED, "IF YOU SHOOT DOWN THE MAIN
MOTION, EVERYTHING DIES."
VOTE: (ON THE MAIN MOTION, AS AMENDED)
COMMISSIONER MILLER: NAY
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE: NAY
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: NAY
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: NAY
MOTION DID NOT CARRY.
Commissioner Krebs commented on an article that was in the Seminole Extra regarding
Parcel 14.
Deputy Mayor Blake stated "Point of Order" regarding the Agenda Item that was
postponed earlier this evening.
Attorney Garganese stated, "She can make a statement, but I would reserve debate on that
issue until the Public Hearing."
REPORTS
605. Office Of The Mayor - John F. Bush
Mayor Bush stated, "One day last week, I called eight (8) different people in the City and
got - eight (8) phone [voice]mails." With discussion on Staffs whereabouts, Mayor
Bush stated, I would recommend the Manager look into this - that so many people just
cannot be gone at one time."
Mayor Bush stated, "Why are the Clocks in the Town Center not working?" Mayor Bush
added, "Is there some reason those Clocks don't work? And if so, why don't we get them
fixed." Mr. Stevenson stated, "The one that doesn't work, as I understand it, Doran has
ordered parts for it."
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Mayor Bush commented on Legislative Action Day scheduled for March 29, 2006 and
stated, "I think there would be some benefit that those who are going, that we have a
Meeting to go over those items. Which - would have to be an advertised Meeting. Who
all is going up there on the 29th?" Mayor Bush added, "The 28th." Commissioner
McGinnis stated, "I am going." Mayor Bush said, "So we have three (3) of us, and 1 am
going, that is four (4) of us. Why don't you give the Clerk's office a call and let them
know when you could meet." Commissioner McGinnis stated, "Anytime."
Commissioner Krebs also said, "Anytime."
Commissioner Miller suggested, "How about next Tuesday?" Mayor Bush stated, "Can
we meet during the day?" Commissioner McGinnis said, "Yes." Commissioner Miller
stated, "Sure." Commissioner Krebs remarked, "It depends on the day." Mayor Bush
asked, "March the I oth?" Commissioner McGinnis stated, "Okay." Mayor Bush stated,
"How about noon, we have our luncheon Meetings."
Mayor Bush stated, "Why don't you look at your calendar, call the Clerk's office and
then - we'll decide when we can do it." Commissioner Krebs stated, "I will send an
email. "
REPORTS
606. Commission Seat One - Robert S. Miller
Commissioner Miller commented on individuals from Turkmenistan visiting the United
States and Winter Springs next Tuesday, March 7,2006 around 2:00 p.m. Commissioner
Miller stated, "I would encourage all of you to show up." Mayor Bush noted, "The
Clerk's Office will need to advertise this." Commissioner Miller added, "I will give the
Clerk this and she can make copies and give it to you."
REPORTS
607. Commission Seat Two/Deputy Mayor - Michael S. Blake
Deputy Mayor Blake commented on Village Walk and stated, "I am talking about the
Village Walk area, that development specifically, the landscaping along the right-of-ways
_ is it done or is it not done? 1 thought 1 was told it was done, and if it is, we have got
weed coverage - 1 will be glad to go out there with you and walk it and look at it." Mr.
Stevenson noted, "Steven [Richart] is on top of it though and 1 will mention it to him
tomorrow." Furthermore, Deputy Mayor Blake added, "Frankly it looks almost Highway
Commercial in some areas, and it is a huge disappointment." Manager McLemore stated,
"We need to be prepared to give you a full Report at the next Meeting."
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Furthermore, Deputy Mayor Blake remarked, "Include pictures please, full-color
pictures." Additionally, Deputy Mayor Blake noted, "I would like to see an item on it,
and I would like it to include nice colored photographs of what is there, and by the way,
why don't we pull up some of the drawings we have from what we were sold. Let's take
a look at those too and let's compare and see where we are falling down and try to get it
fixed. "
REPORTS
608. Commission Seat Three - Donald A. Gilmore
Commissioner Gilmore would like "ID (Identification) badges for City Hall. Visitors
coming in to City Hall don't have an idea who they are talking to, who are employees and
who are not employees. I think it would be appropriate that our people here at City Hall
have legible ID (Identification) badges as in most organizations, and I would like to see a
Consensus of the Commission on that subject."
Ms. Dalka stated that regarding Identification badges - "We have budgeted this year for
our ID (Identification) badge program for Human Resources to begin using. However, we
ran into a situation where - we need to look at the logo that needs to be put on the badge.
And I understand that work is being done on a City logo." Mayor Bush stated, "We have
a Logo - that is it, right there." Ms. Dalka added, "Pretty much, we are going to pick that
up probably mid April." Ms. Dalka added, "It is an ID (Identification) badge with their
photograph, their name, their title." Commissioner Gilmore added, "What people need to
see is the name. I don't care if you have photo ID (Identification) as much as you have a
badge with a clearly legible name that you can see five (5), six (6), eight (8') feet away."
Commissioner Gilmore stated, HGive them a photo ID (Identification) so that they can
carry in their pocket. It is two (2) different items." Then, Commissioner Gilmore
stated, HWhat I am talking about is, I want to see the person's name, maybe their title,
that is really what we are after." Ms. Dalka stated, HSO, you are wanting a separate ID
(Identification) badge separate from the picture ID (Identification}." Commissioner
Gilmore stated, HThat is my suggestion." Ms. Dalka stated, HThat's not what we were
looking at. "
Deputy Mayor Blake agreed and stated, HThey can do the card, photo ID
(Identification) - the City employee ID {Identification}, that is a different issue and I
think that is fine, and they are going through with that, like what she said. What
Commissioner Gilmore is talking about is a name badge to help the public and other
employees identify each other by name so that you know who you are doing business
with and you know who you are talking to. "
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Furthermore, Deputy Mayor Blake added, "Make it one design, but make it easy to
read for the public." Commissioner McGinnis stated, "I agree." Mayor Bush asked,
"Everybody in agreement?" As there weren't any objections, Mayor Bush stated, "We
have Consensus on that." Deputy Mayor Blake added, "That doesn't change anything
you are doing on ID (Identification) badges." Commissioner Gilmore commented,
"No, you can continue that and you can carry them in your pocket. "
Regarding the "RUOK" Program, Commissioner Gilmore said to Police Chief Daniel J.
Kerr, Police Department, "Is that still active?" Chief Kerr commented, "Yes, that is still
a Program that we offer." With further discussion, Chief Kerr added, "Yes, it is a
program that we advertise. It's on our Website. We can also put it in the City Newsletter
the next time." Commissioner Gilmore stated, "I would like to see it in the Newsletter;
and let the people know that this Program is available." Discussion. Commissioner
Gilmore added, "It would be nice if Susie [Coffman, Seniors Program Supervisor, Parks
and Recreation Department] had a poster of it on the Wall over at the Senior Center, to
tell people that that is available."
Next, Commissioner Gilmore stated, "The Wall on Tuscawilla Trails. Tonight, Starmer's
project said they are going to have a wall between his development and Tuscawilla
Trails. What about the other one over there?" Mayor Bush stated, "The Settlement
Agreement did not require a wall." Mr. Stevenson stated, "Between Jesup's Reserve and
Tuscawilla Trails there was specified a buffer in there, that included a berm and
plantings, as well as trees; and that was part of the Settlement Agreement. It was not a
wall, along the south side of Jesup's Reserve." Mr. Stevenson added, "And we have a
letter in the file from the Tuscawilla Trails - Property Management Association
acknowledging that."
Tape 4/Side B
Mayor Bush stated, "You might want to give a copy to the Commissioners."
Next, Commissioner Gilmore asked about Building Permits being issued without
checking Deed Restrictions on applicable property. Discussion. Deputy Mayor Blake
stated, "[Section] 20-357." Furthermore, Deputy Mayor Blake remarked, "I thought we
were going to re-write this section..." Attorney Garganese stated, "... We got
sidetracked." With additional comments, Deputy Mayor Blake added, "Why
haven't we amended Section 20-357. and ..." Attorney Garganese noted, "...The PUD
[Planned Unit Development] procedures..." Deputy Mayor Blake stated, ".. . Right."
Further discussion.
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ADJOURNMENT
Mayor Bush adjourned the Regular Meeting at approximately 12:38 a.m.
RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED:
ANDREA LORENZO-LUACES, CMC, CITY CLERK AND
DEBBIE FRANKLIN
DEPUTY CITY CLERK
APPROVED:
JOHN F. BUSH
MAYOR
NOTE: These Minutes were approved at the
, 2006 Regular City Commission Meeting.
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CALL TO ORDER
The Regular Meeting of Monday, March 27,2006 of the City Commission was called to
Order by Mayor John F. Bush at 6:32 p.m. in the Commission Chambers of the
Municipal Building (City Hall, 1126 East State Road 434, Winter Springs, Florida
32708).
Roll Call:
Mayor John F. Bush, present
Deputy Mayor Michael S. Blake, present
Commissioner Robert S. Miller, present
Commissioner Donald A. Gilmore, present
Commissioner Sally McGinnis, arrived at 6:42 p.m.
Commissioner Joanne M. Krebs, present
City Manager Ronald W. McLemore, present
City Attorney Anthony A. Garganese, present
The Pledge of Allegiance was followed by a moment of silence.
.:..:. AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING "AWARDS AND
PRESENTATIONS" WERE HEARD NEXT, FOLLOWED THEN BY "PUBLIC
INPUT", AND THEN THE REST OF THE AGENDA, AS DOCUMENTED.
.:. .:.
AWARDS AND PRESENTATIONS
AWARDS AND PRESENT A nONS
100. Office Of The Mayor
Presentation Of Certificates Of Recognition To Ms. Kirstie Dodd, Mr. Jeremy Hsu,
and Mr. Jason Kwong, Students At Winter Springs High School - In Honor Of
Being Selected For The All County Team Seminole Academic Team.
Mayor Bush presented Certificates in honor of these student's achievements.
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In other City business, members of the Tuscawilla Homeowners Association - former
City Commissioner Edward Martinez, Jr., President Mr. Mervin Warner, and
Commissioner Donald A. Gilmore presented a check in the amount of $2,300.00 to Chief
of Police Daniel J. Kerr for the purchase of two (2) Difibrulators.
Commissioner Sally McGinnis arrived at 6:42 p.m.
AWARDS AND PRESENTATIONS
101. Office Of The Mayor
Requesting The City Commission Hear A Presentation From The Winter Springs
Chamber Task Force.
Mr. Paul P: Partyka, 934 Contravest Lane, Winter Springs, Florida: spoke on behalf of
the "Winter Springs Chamber of Commerce Task Force" and introduced members of this
group. Mr. Partyka stated, "Like all starter organizations, we are short of starter funds.
We need to get a little help from the City to get us through the early growth time.
Initially we need some funding to get the Survey out to all businesses in the City and we
need things like printing, postage, letters, envelopes and we want to get a letter from the
City Mayor and the Commission adding to all the other businesses that are supporting
this and together with that letter to send this Survey out to those businesses. And we
estimate this to be roughly about five thousand dollars ($5,000.00) initially for the
Survey, mailings, and responses. Now, here is the key, if the - Surveys are positive and
we think they will be, then we would need approximately another twenty thousand
dollars ($20,000.00) for the following information, like brochures, membership
applications, stationary, etcetera at the start."
Furthermore, Mr. Partyka stated, "Now, our target is to have a minimum 100 businesses
to be viable and then we grow from there as a Chamber or other organization to be named
later. Now, once we start this Chamber, our goal is to be self-sustaining, guaranteed."
Now on behalf of the Task Force here, we are asking for a total of twenty-five thousand
[dollars] ($25,000.00), but from that twenty-five thousand [dollars] ($25,000.00), we only
want initially five thousand dollars ($5,000.00) to start the ball rolling with the Survey;
and then we will see whether we should continue or not."
Discussion.
Mayor Bush stated, "I feel very strongly that the City does need a Chamber."
Commissioner McGinnis remarked, "I support this also." Commissioner McGinnis
added, "We had a - Meeting last week, many of you business people were here. When
that Meeting ended, it was kind of unresolved whether this group would be a Chamber or
an Economic Development Committee. Am 1 correct?" Mayor Bush answered, "I think
the Chamber would be the Economic Development group of citizens. I think that is
where it would come from."
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Mr. Partyka stated, "I call it a Chamber and interesting enough, from the Survey we'll
determine what the real focus of this Chamber is going to be. Ideally, this Chamber will
be Economic based, economically focused to bring more economic viability through
better businesses coming in. That's what you want to do. So, for a lack of a better term,
Economic Development Committee Council by way of the Chamber of Commerce.
With discussion, Deputy Mayor Michael S. Blake stated, "One thing I might want to see
though would be an actual formation of the entity along with a Charter or By-Laws
because that would embody - the foundation that we could then find a public purpose in
order to be a participant - from a financial standpoint."
Deputy Mayor Blake asked if we are "Investigating being an arm of the Greater Oviedo
Chamber of Commerce, or the Seminole Chamber of Commerce, or starting a fresh,
brand new separate entity? Because I know there have been some discussions in all those
areas and I think that would have to be clarified or should be clarified to us also."
Additionally, Deputy Mayor Blake said, "I am absolutely in support of the idea of putting
together, or helping to fund an organization for these purposes. I think the time is right."
Commissioner Joanne M. Krebs stated, "I too support this." Mayor Bush noted that "Our
purpose of this Survey is to determine what is the best thing to do, because one of the key
questions from our last Meeting was independent or not or some other alliance, and - this
Survey will determine some of that; and once we know what the businesses want together
with hopefully the right kind of structure, then the rest of it just follows. And there may
be a small Economic Development Committee, but ideally the Chamber will be doing the
functions of both."
Commissioner Robert S. Miller said, "I would like to congratulate ex-Mayor Partyka for
leading this thing, or I assume you led it." Commissioner Miller added, "I understand a
lot of people have helped out, but it is time, we need this now, so I agree with everything
else that has been said on the dais."
Mayor Bush stated, "One of the things that Mr. Partyka has asked for is a letter from
myself and the Commissioners. I have drafted a letter here which I showed to Paul
[Partyka] before the Meeting started. Let me read it to you. And, if you are okay with it,
why we will send this out." Mayor Bush then read the letter.
Deputy Mayor Blake remarked, "I don't have any issues with that letter at all, in fact
while I think the Commission could okay this at this point in time, I would like to see the
contents of that come back in the form of an official Resolution that we could adopt - two
(2) weeks away."
Mayor Bush then said to the City Commission that "And, I will make sure you all get
copies of this."
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'~I WILL MAKE A MOTION, NOT ONLY TO DO THE LETTER, BUT TO
APPROPRIATE FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS ($5,000.00), INITIAL STARTUP
FEE FOR THE MAILING." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS.
SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE. DISCUSSION.
CITY CLERK ANDREA LORENZO-LUACES ASKED, "WOULD THAT BE A
SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATION?" DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE STATED,
"YES."
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
City Manager Ronald W. McLemore said, "If I could Mr. Mayor, just identify it as a
General Fund, Supplemental Appropriation." Mayor Bush said, "Okay."
AWARDS AND PRESENT A nONS
102. Office Of The City Manager
Requesting The City Commission To Hear A Presentation From Bill Reischmann
Regarding Recreational Needs In Winter Springs. .
Mr. Bill Reischmann, 1673 Eagle Nest Circle, Winter Springs, Florida: addressed the
City Commission and spoke on other recreational needs, and the need for a recreational
center in the City.
Discussion.
Commissioner McGinnis stated, "So there are a lot of recreational needs and whether we
need to go to the citizens and say, 'Look, are you willing to pay for this' - essentially
what it amounts to and come up with a plan - and I would support that."
Mayor Bush stated, "Mr. Reischmann has asked that we appoint an Ad-Hoc Committee, I
think that is a good idea, if that is the Commission's wishes. I think we should proceed
with that."
Manager McLemore said, "We will formulate the normal Resolution for all our Ad-Hoc
Committees. It lays out the task for you, and bring that back to you at the next Meeting
or the Meeting right after that, if that is your desire."
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Deputy Mayor Blake noted previous discussions on a "Swimming Pool" and said, "There
might have been a better way when we could have found a way to partner - we have the
School Board folks here tonight, several of them; there were situations where there were
some cost sharing arrangements with some other schools or other areas of the County for
pools; but those types of funds were not available for - this situation. At the risk of
sending what is really a great down the exercise road to defeat, 1 think it might make even
more sense and ultimately be more successful if we not all of a sudden at one (1) Meeting
come up with this Ad-Hoc Committee that is going to go out and study how we are going
to do this and start down that same road. We have a lot of priorities. We have this Golf
Course issue that keeps coming up and what is going to happen there - and where will the
millions come from? And, yes, it will be millions, plural, if the City is going to have
some involvement there."
Additionally, Deputy Mayor Blake added, "Unless we take a look at all these priorities at
once, at one (1) Meeting, - on one (1) sheet and do sort of a strategic planning session
about where these priorities fit in - because by the way, the pool issue is still out there."
Deputy Mayor Blake then noted, "What 1 would like to suggest is to task our Staff to
come back with a plan of action on a five (5) or a ten (10) year strategic plan on some of
these capital items that we need."
Discussion.
Commissioner Miller stated, "I think you are on the right track. 1 would love to see them
get together with Staff. Do whatever that you are doing and work with the Staff. Give us
presentations from time to time. Let us know where you are at and then bring all of the
priorities to us and then we would look at it."
Then, Commissioner McGinnis said, "I agree. It is essential to work with Staff because
we do have some land options." Commissioner McGinnis added, "We have a
Consultant's report coming in about the Golf Course and all of the land around that and
that could lend itself to multi-purpose use, youth activities also - or, community sector of
some type. So, all of these things really - Staff would be very involved in this."
Commissioner Gilmore said, "I can also support a Task Force looking at this and coming
back with recommendations. But, one thing 1 would like to recommend is to get together
with the School Board and see if we can't partner on the use of the facilities."
Discussion.
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With further discussion, Mayor Bush said to Manager McLemore, "Do you have
enough information to - carry on with this?" Mayor Bush then stated,
"Commissioners, are you comfortable with Mr. McLemore working with Mr.
Reischmann and his group to put something together for you? Everybody okay with
that?" Commissioner McGinnis stated, "Yes." Deputy Mayor Blake remarked, "Yes."
There were no objections noted.
Discussion.
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103. Office Of The City Manager
Requesting The City Commission To Hear A Presentation From Kim Ornberg,
P.E., Seminole County, Supporting The Recommendation Of The Joint Advisory
Committee Regarding The Development And Implementation Of A Countywide
Mosquito Control Program.
Ms. Kim Ornberg, P.E., Seminole County, 1101 East First Street, Sanford, Florida:
presented this issue to the City Commission.
With discussion, Ms. Omberg stated, "The annual costs for the proposed County-wide
program would be around a million dollars, and that would include all of the cities."
Deputy Mayor Blake said, "So, this is going to be a significant cost increase to the City
of Winter Springs?" Ms. Omberg stated, "No, it will not. As it stands right now, the
Board of County Commissioners had agreed to take on the cost of the program and as it
stands, they are proposing at this point, to just take it out of the General Fund." Deputy
Mayor Blake added, "The entire cost and not bill any of it back to the cities?" Ms.
Omberg responded, "Correct."
Much discussion.
Regarding the costs for the service being funded by the County, Commissioner Miller
said to Ms. Omberg, "You are going to give us the same level of service with better
technique, and you are going to do it at three (3) times the cost - and as long as the
County bears that from here on out, out of their General Fund, I think I would go along
with that. But, I would want to have it in writing - an Agreement with the County that if
we join this, that our cost per capita would stay at about where it is right now, maybe
with some kind of an indexed inflation cost that would be added in."
Discussion.
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Deputy Mayor Blake inquired of Ms. Omberg, "Is the County expecting to enter into an
Interlocal Agreement with each of the cities on this program, or is the County really just
letting us know what it is that they are going to do?" Ms. Omberg stated, "There had
been no discussion of Interlocals, but they did want endorsement from the cities."
Further discussion.
Mayor Bush said, "At this point, why don't we hold off on making any decision on this
so you have had time to read the material and maybe at the next Commission Meeting,
you can take action. Is that okay with everybody, or do you want to do something now?"
Mayor Bush added, "I think it would be good that maybe at the next Meeting, our Staff
who represented us on that Technical Committee would speak up."
Furthermore, Mayor Bush remarked, "Commissioners, is that agreeable that we would
put this off until our next Meeting to make a formal decision?" Deputy Mayor Blake
stated, "Yes." Commissioner McGinnis said, "Absolutely." No objections were noted.
In a related matter, Mayor Bush stated, "Also from the County, Jerry McCollum who is
an Engineer, is going to give us an update on the Seminole Cross-Seminole Trail."
Mr. Jerry McCollum, P.E., County Engineer, Seminole County, 1101 East First Street,
Sanford, Florida: spoke on the Trail system.
Tape 2/Side A
Discussion.
Manager McLemore asked, "Is the County going to continue to try to work with the City
to bring down funds for that section?" Mr. McCollum responded, "Yes Sir." Mr.
McCollum added, "We're really looking - if we do go with the red line that - it's really
kind of an interim improvement; that's what we would call the Phase I - ultimately we all
know the best alignment is something along that yellow corridor." Manager McLemore
stated, "Right."
Mr. McCollum then said, "If we do the red, we're not going to go with the yellow."
Manager McLemore stated, "My understanding is that we're really going to identify this
as a temporary route, and it is going to be posted that way." Mr. McCollum remarked,
"Yes Sir, that is correct."
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Deputy Mayor Blake stated, "Have we thought about or discussed at all the idea of not
actually providing this level of improvement on the red line but perhaps just a quick
grading and smoothing and thin coat on a - ten foot (10') corridor to provide for safe
passage that will not create a gap per se?"
Mr. McCollum remarked, "In order to build the roadway - the one we showed with the
Trail separate, etcetera - you really have to re-build that whole roadway because of where
the right-of-way is. But what we can do is over the course of the next thirty (30) days or
so, we can take a look - can we get something in that area, because again, we had to
rebuild the whole road to get the Trail in there, where the ditches are located and some of
the other items, I just am not sure from an engineering point if I can meander something
through there."
Deputy Mayor Blake added, "As the Mayor said, obviously, we don't want to be the
missing link, because this could take two (2) to three (3) or even five (5) years to work
through the process and find the right timing opportunities in order to fund the yellow
line. On the same token, if we can preserve the capital dollars and not spend them on this
improvement on the red line, then that would provide a nice head start, a jump start to
have the funding in place." Mr. McCollum noted, "We can take a look at that over the
next thirty (30) days and again, we just have to see from an engineering viewpoint, can it
work and I do want to take a quick look at the safety issues." Deputy Mayor Blake
added, "If we could find a hundred thousand dollar ($100,000.00), five (5) year solution
that would - be a great trade-off. I think that would enable us to keep working on the
yellow line." Mr. McCollum commented, "We'll be happy to take a look at that."
Discussion ensued on costs associated with the Boardwalk, to which Mr. McCollum
stated, "We can finalize those numbers."
Furthermore, Mr. McCollum remarked, "As I mentioned, I will try to get back to you
through your Staff within the next thirty (30) days."
PUBLIC INPUT
Mr. Rick Brown, 211 Nandina Terrace, Winter Springs, Florida: spoke on behalf of
some tenants in the Winter Springs Town Center regarding increased costs for common
areas in the Winter Springs Town Center by the Developer of the Town Center.
Mayor Bush suggested to Mr. Brown, "[ think your group could meet with the
Manager on this and at some point, [ would like to maybe see getting Doran in here to
meet maybe with the Commission and with your group. "
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Mr. Brown noted, "We foresee having that audit done. The Tenant's association that
we're putting together has agreed to share the cost of doing that between us, just so
that we know what the real number actually is. "
Commissioner McGinnis noted, "I would like to see this dealt with ASAP (As soon as
possible). "
Attorney Garganese spoke of Landlord and Tenant issues and suggested, "I would just
caution you on your approach and not to pit the City in between a Landlord and a
Tenant where private contractual interests are at stake."
Ms. Diana Yarusinski, 1166 Winged Foot Circle East, Winter Springs, Florida: spoke
on the status of a Cell Tower study.
Manager McLemore said, "We actually received the Report today - have not had time to
study it. It probably will be coming to the Commission at the next Meeting; if not,
certainly the one after that."
Ms. Y arusinski then asked, "Will the public be able to review this before it comes to a
Public Hearing?" Manager McLemore said, "They're public records. . ." Ms. Y arusinski
then stated, "... So will it be on the W ebsite?" Manager McLemore responded, "They
could be on the Website." Ms. Yarusinski then said, "If! call the City Clerk, will she be
able to direct me where to go to find a copy?" Manager McLemore stated, "She would."
Discussion ensued on the next type of forum for this issue. Manager McLemore noted,
"It is possible that it may be the second meeting in April before we get it here." Deputy
Mayor Blake pointed out that "It may never come to the Commission - it could die before
it ever gets here."
Commissioner Krebs stated, "For the previous public input where Rick Brown was
asking for - is there a Consensus or not? The City Clerk needs a Consensus." Mayor
Bush remarked, "Consensus that he would meet with the Manager? Is everybody in
agreement?" Commissioner McGinnis stated, "Yes." Commissioner Gilmore nodded
affirmatively. No objections were voiced.
Ms. Karen Gebauer, Post Office Box 196145, Winter Springs, Florida: asked for support
for Mr. Reischmann's comments.
Mr. John Drehoff, 105 Atrium Court, Winter Springs, Florida: representing the Seminole
Lacrosse League, mentioned he thought that the Paw Park was moving; and noted that he
was in favor of more recreational facilities.
Discussion ensued on a new Water Reclamation Plant.
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Commissioner Miller stated, "I would like to see Staff bring to us an Information item
- I would like to see the size of this thing - this Water Treatment Plant." Furthermore,
Commissioner Miller noted, "I would like to see an Agenda Item on what this thing
looks like, what all is involved." Commissioner Miller added, "I think we all need to
know clearly what this thing looks like - is this a Water Treatment Plant..." Mayor
Bush asked, "Commissioners, are you in agreement with Commissioner Miller's
recommendation - to have an Informational item?" Commissioner Krebs stated, "Yes,
I would like to know." Commissioner McGinnis also remarked, "Yes, and why."
Commissioner Krebs added, "Why it needs to be where it needs to be. "
Ms. Isabelle Laub, 1372 Blue Spruce Court, Winter Springs, Florida: thanked the City
Commission for their support of changes to the Senior Center; and asked for more stores
at the Winter Springs Town Center.
Mr. Bob Rucci, 973 Turkey Hollow Circle, Winter Springs, Florida: spoke on the Dog
Park issue.
Tape 2/Side B
Further discussion.
Mayor Bush mentioned that Seminole County Public Schools Board Member Sandy
Robinson had been present.
Mayor Bush called a Recess at 8:56 p.m.
Mayor Bush called the Meeting back to Order at 9:16 p.m.
PUBLIC HEARINGS AGENDA
PUBLIC HEARINGS
200. Community Development Department - Planning Division
Requests That The City Commission Hold A Public Hearing To Consider A
Notification Of Proposed Change (NOPC) To Parcel 14 Of The Oviedo Marketplace
Development Of Regional Impact (DR!) By The Viera Company.
Ms. Eloise S ahl strom, ASLA, AICP, Senior Planner, Community Development
Department presented information related to this Agenda Item.
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Regarding Water and Sewer, Deputy Mayor Blake stated, "It was my understanding 1
thought we did - 1 thought we had Easements through these properties on Duncan Drive."
Ms. Sahlstrom stated, "I have not seen that - 1 have not seen any Easements through
there." Deputy Mayor Blake spoke about the Record and stated, "I remember one of the
chief things that were being sold here was the revenue on this parcel, and it included the
ad valorem tax, the utilities - along with everything else."
Discussion.
Mr. George Kramer, Planner, Glatting Jackson Kercher Anglin Lopez Rinehart, Inc., 33
East Pine Street Orlando, Florida: addressed the City Commission on this Agenda Item.
Further discussion.
Tape 3/Side A
Attorney Garganese spoke for the Record on the original Development Order.
Mr. George Kosmac, Deputy Superintendent, Seminole County Public Schools, 400 East
Lake Mary Boulevard, Sanford, Florida: commented on school capacity levels and
projections.
Discussion.
Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
Mr. Eric Bagwell, 1133 Duncan Drive, Winter Springs, Florida: spoke of drainage on
Duncan Drive and noted his concern with height restrictions, and parking.
Mr. Richard C. Gibson, 1231 Hollow Pine Drive, Oviedo, Florida: remarked about
emergency services response; density; and extreme wetness.
Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
Discussion.
Tape 3/Side B
Mr. Ralph Hanley, The Viera Company, 7380 Murrell Road, Suite 201, Viera, Florida:
addressed the City Commission.
Further discussion.
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"I WANT TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE SAME DENSITY
THAT WAS APPROVED FOR OVIEDO - IF IT IS 8.7, MAKE IT 8.7." MAYOR
BUSH STATED, "8.74 WAS OVIEDO, I BELIEVE." COMMISSIONER MILLER
THEN SAID, "MAKE IT 8.74, THAT WAY WE ARE CONSISTENT
THROUGHOUT."
MAYOR BUSH NOTED, "THEIR PROPOSAL BY THE WAY - WAS 8.8."
COMMISSIONER MILLER THEN ADDED, "NOT TO EXCEED 8.8."
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS SAID, "ON PARCEL 14." MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER MILLER. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS.
DISCUSSION.
DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE INQUIRED, "IS THAT 'GROSS'?"
MAYOR BUSH COMMENTED, "8.8 UNITS PER ACRE BASED ON 15.1
ACRES, THAT IS THE WAY I UNDERSTOOD IT." MS. SAHLSTROM NOTED,
"ACTUALL Y, YOU CAN'T DO THE WHOLE FIFTEEN (15) ACRES." MAYOR
BUSH THEN STATED, "YES, 11.325, RIGHT." FURTHERMORE, MAYOR
BUSH STATED, "8.8 UNITS ON THE 11.325 ACRES..." COMMISSIONER
MILLER NOTED, ".. .IF THOSE ARE DEVELOPABLE, YES."
FURTHER DISCUSSION.
ATTORNEY GARGANESE STATED, "I AM NOT SURE IF THAT MOTION
REALLY WORKS, BECAUSE THE DEVELOPMENT ORDER REFERS TO A
CERTAIN NUMBER OF DWELLING UNITS, BOTH IN THE OVERALL
SUMMARY OF THE APPROVED DEVELOPMENT AND WITH RESPECT TO
THE SUMMARY OF LAND USES IN THE CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS - SO IT
REFERS TO A CERTAIN NUMBER OF UNITS."
FURTHERMORE, ATTORNEY GARGANESE STATED, "IF YOU WANT TO
TIE THE DENSITY DOWN, I WOULD DO IT IN THE FORM OF A
LIMITATION ON THE NUMBER OF UNITS - A MAXIMUM NUMBER, NOT
TO EXCEED A CERTAIN NUMBER, SO THAT WILL FALL IN LINE WITH
THE SUMMARY OF THE APPROVED AND PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IN
THE DRI (DEVELOPMENT OF REGIONAL IMPACT) ORDER."
COMMISSIONER MILLER STATED, "THAT IS WHAT I HAD IN MIND."
ATTORNEY GARGANESE ADDED, "KEEP IT GENERAL AND RELATED TO
THE NUMBER OF UNITS I THINK WOULD BE - IN ORDER."
FURTHERMORE, ATTORNEY GARGANESE SUGGESTED, "WITH
UNANIMOUS CONSENT OF THE COMMISSION, JUST TAKE THAT
MOTION OFF."
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MAYOR BUSH ASKED THE CITY COMMISSION, "DO WE HAVE
UNANIMOUS CONSENT TO REMOVE IT?" COMMISSIONER McGINNIS
REMARKED, "YES." COMMISSIONER KREBS STATED, "YES." DEPUTY
MAYOR BLAKE SAID, "SURE." NO OBJECTIONS WERE VOICED. MAYOR
BUSH THEN NOTED, WE HAVE UNANIMOUS CONSENT - SO THAT ONE IS
DEAD."
"MY MOTION WOULD BE THEY WILL BUILD NOT MORE THAN 100 -
RESIDENTIAL UNITS ON THE PROPERTY." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER
MILLER. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. DISCUSSION.
ATTORNEY GARGANESE ADDED, "THERE ARE JUST SOME TECHNICAL
CHANGES THAT NEED TO BE MADE TO THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT
ORDER, IF THIS PASSES - LIKE IT REFERENCES THE CITY COMMISSION
AS THE CITY COUNCIL. AS YOU KNOW YOU ARE A COMMISSION. THE
DATE NEEDS TO BE CHANGED; AND THE ORIGINAL DEVELOPMENT
ORDER NEEDS TO BE SENT TO THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE AFTER
RECORDING; AND APPROVED AS TO LEGAL FORM AND SUFFICIENCY -
OF THE CITY ATTORNEY - THAT NEEDS TO BE CHANGED."
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE: NAY
MOTION CARRIED.
Mayor Bush stated, "We need a Motion to extend the Meeting."
"SO MOVED." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. SECONDED BY
DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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REGULAR AGENDA
REGULAR
300. Finance Department
Requesting City Commission Acceptance Of The Comprehensive Annual Financial
Report (CAFR), As Presented, For The Fiscal Year Ended September 30, 2005.
Ms. Kelly Leary, McDirmit, Davis and Company, LLC, 605 East Robinson Street, Suite
635, Orlando, Florida: spoke on the Comprehensive Annual Financial Report (CAFR).
Commissioner Miller asked Ms. Leary, "What do you think of the City's debt structure?
How much more debt could we carry?"
Furthermore, Ms. Leary stated, "I don't think your debt structure is low compared to
other cities but I don't think it is high - and I would have to pull those calculations, and -
I could give those to Michelle [Greco, Director, Finance Department] and she could see
where you are in relation to other cities."
Commissioner McGinnis stated, "I would like that." Commissioner Krebs remarked also,
"I would like that." Commissioner Miller added, "I would appreciate that."
Discussion.
Ms. Leary stated, "Michelle [Greco] did a great job!" Commissioner Gilmore stated,
"Good work!" Mayor Bush added, "Good job!"
Mayor Bush stated, "Can we have a Motion to Accept?"
Commissioner Miller departed the Meeting at 11:20 p.m.
"YES." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER KREBS. MAYOR BUSH NOTED,
"SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER GILMORE." DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
DEPUTYMAYORBLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Deputy Mayor Blake added, "Thank you very much - well done."
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301. Information Services Department
Wishes To Furnish Options To The Commission For Recording Commission
Meetings For Later Broadcast On SGTV And To Have Commission Give Further
Direction On This Issue And Appropriate $4,000.00 For Consulting Services.
Discussion ensued with Ms. Joanne Dalka, Director, Information Services Department on
hiring a Consultant. In discussing other Consultant's that have been hired by the City,
Mayor Bush asked, "What about the Consultant on [State Road] 419?" Manager
McLemore remarked, "That is a problem, and I need to check on that and know why
that's not finished."
Mr. Joe Alcala, IT Coordinator/Security Administrator, Information Services Department
reviewed a presentation with the City Commission.
Tape 4/Side A
With discussion, Mayor Bush remarked, "We want video' d Commission Meetings. That
is what we want. Tell us how to do it." Mayor Bush added, "We want to do it the best
way possible." Manager McLemore said to Mr. Alcala, "You have got your answer. We
will talk tomorrow."
"MOTION TO APPROVE FOUR THOUSAND DOLLARS ($4,000.00) FOR A
CONSULT ANT TO ASSIST US." MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE.
MAYOR BUSH STATED, "SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS."
DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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302. Community Development Department
Requesting Authorization For The Purchase Of Land At A Cost Of $3,600.00 Plus
Related Expenses For The Construction Of A Wall Extension Located At The North
End Of The Oak Forest Development Along Tuskawilla Road.
Brief discussion ensued on the number of pages in the Agenda Item.
Mr. Steven Richart, Urban Beautification Division Services Manager, Community
Development Department commented on this Agenda Item.
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Discussion.
"MOTION TO APPROVE." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER KREBS. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
DEPUTYMAYORBLAKE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Mayor Bush said, "Commissioners, seriously, do you expect this much paper to be
generated on these Agenda Items?" Commissioner Krebs remarked, "No."
REGULAR
303. Public Works Department
Providing The Commission Information Relative To Questions Regarding The
Landscaping Material Installed On The SR (State Road) 434 Access Management
Project In The "Village Walk".
Mr. Greg Bishop, Capital Projects Coordinator, Public Works Department introduced this
Agenda Item and showed a presentation to those in attendance.
Discussion.
Deputy Mayor Blake stated, "1 am willing to let it go for a while and if Staff understands
and it sounds to me like maybe they have a plan, give it between four (4) and five (5)
months - let's see what happens."
With further discussion, Mr. Richart explained that "Once we get past the period of the
warranty issues and stuff like that, we're going to come in and we're going to upgrade
these areas to what we want. We're just trying to get past that stage of warranty, so that
they will come in and put in the replacement plants and then we'll- after that we'll come
in and do what we had planned." Mr. Richart added, "We do have a plan and we won't
disappoint. "
Manager McLemore asked Mr. Richart, "How long? How much?" Mr. Richart
responded by saying, "1 need at least six (6) months and about ten thousand dollars
($10,000.00) and we'll get it looking pretty good."
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304. Public Works Department
Requests Authorization From The City Commission To Appropriate Funding In
The Amount Of $821,382.00 For The Design And Construction Of Orange Avenue
From Tuskawilla Road To Central Winds Park.
Mr. Brian Fields, P.E., City Engineer, Public WorkslUtility Department gave a
presentation to the City Commission on this Agenda Item.
Tape 4/SideB
"MOTION TO APPROVE." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER GILMORE. DISCUSSION. MAYOR BUSH
ADDED, "THE MOTION WOULD READ AS THE REQUEST FUNDING THE
EIGHT HUNDRED AND TWENTY -ONE THOUSAND, THREE HUNDRED AND
EIGHTY-TWO DOLLARS ($821,382.00) WITH A TEN PERCENT (10%)
CONTINGENCY."
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
CONSENT AGENDA
CONSENT
400. Police Department
Requesting The Expenditure Of $14,600.00 From The Police Special Law
Enforcement Trust Fund To Replace Four Harley Davidson Police Motorcycles.
There was no discussion on this Agenda Item.
CONSENT
401. Utility Department
Requesting Authorization To Enter Into A Contractual Agreement For Design Of
Electrical System Improvements To Water Treatment Plant Number 2.
No discussion.
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CONSENT
402. Public Works Department
Requests Authorization From The City Commission To Appropriate Funding In
The Amount Of $8,840.50 For The Removal Of Overhead Power Lines Along
Northern Way At Tuscawilla Square.
This Agenda Item was not discussed.
CONSENT
403. Office Of The City Manager
Requests Authorization To Enter Into A Contract For The Sale Of 123 Kristi Ann
Court For The Purchase Price Of $139,900.00 ($5,000.00) Below Appraised Value).
No discussion.
CONSENT
404. Office Of The City Clerk
Requesting Approval Of The March 13, 2006 Regular City Commission Meeting
Minutes.
There was no discussion on this Agenda Item.
CONSENT
405. Office Of The City Clerk
Requesting Approval Of The March 20, 2006 Special City Commission Meeting
Minutes.
This Agenda Item was not discussed.
"MOTION FOR APPROVAL." MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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INFORMATIONAL
INFORMATIONAL
500. Community Development Department
Advising The City Commission Of The Status Of Various Current Planning
Projects.
No discussion.
INFORMATIONAL
501. Office Of The City Clerk
Informing The Commission That The Previously Approved Resolution 2006-15 Is
Actually Resolution 2006-20 (Due To A Scrivener's Error).
There was no discussion on this Agenda Item.
INFORMATIONAL
502. Public Works Department
Advising The City Commission Of The Status Of Various Capital Improvement
Projects.
This Agenda Item was not discussed.
INFORMATIONAL
503. Public Works Department
Responding To The City Commission On George Street Issues.
No discussion was heard on this Agenda Item.
"MOTION TO APPROVE." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS.
SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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In other City business, discussion ensued on a Priority List for Seminole County, to
which Mayor Bush stated, "The issues were the Therapy Pool, the Library, Dog Park."
Mayor Bush then said, "Innovation Way - I don't think that needs to be a priority of
ourS." Commissioner McGinnis added, "No, I don't either."
Next, Mayor Bush stated, "The Therapy Pool, Library, the Dog Park, and the Trail are the
ones that we discussed."
With further discussion, Commissioner Krebs said, "I think the Therapy Pool, and I think
the Trail. I don't think they are interested in a Dog Park." Mayor Bush then asked,
"Therapy Pool, Trail, Library - in that order." Commissioner Krebs remarked, "Yes."
Deputy Mayor Blake suggested, "How about at the top of the CDBG (Community
Development Block Grant) list, put the Therapy Pool. At the top ofthe penny tax list, put
the Library. At the top of the help us get some State and Federal funding - the Trail."
Commissioner McGinnis said, "Yes." Mayor Bush said, "Okay." Additionally, Deputy
Mayor Blake noted, "At the top of County assisted funding sources, put the Golf
Course." Manager McLemore commented, "Makes a lot of sense."
Mayor Bush said to Manager McLemore, "I will draft a response." Commissioner
McGinnis remarked, "Okay."
.:..:. AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING REPORTS WERE NOT
DISCUSSED AT THIS MEETING. .:..:.
REPORTS
REPORTS
600. Office Of The City Attorney - Anthony A. Garganese, Esquire
REPORTS
601. Office Of The City Manager - Ronald W. McLemore
REPORTS
602. Office Of The City Clerk - Andrea Lorenzo-Luaces, CMC
REPORTS
603. Office Of The Mayor - John F. Bush
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REPORTS
604. Commission Seat One - Robert S. Miller
REPORTS
605. Commission Seat Two/Deputy Mayor - Michael S. Blake
REPORTS
606. Commission Seat Three - Donald A. Gilmore
REPORTS
607. Commission Seat Four - Sally McGinnis
REPORTS
608. Commission Seat Five - Joanne M. Krebs
ADJOURNMENT
Mayor Bush adjourned the Regular Meeting at 12:26 a.m.
RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED:
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APPROVED:
NOTE: These Minutes were approved at the April 10, 2006 Regular City Commission Meeting.