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HomeMy WebLinkAbout2006 02 27 Consent 404 Minutes 021306 Approval CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING FEBRUARY 13,2006 CALL TO ORDER The Regular Meeting of Monday, February 13,2006 ofthe City Commission was called to order by Mayor John F. Bush at 6:30 p.m. in the Commission Chambers of the Municipal Building (City Hall, 1126 East State Road 434, Winter Springs, Florida 32708). Roll Call: Mayor John F. Bush, present Deputy Mayor Michael S. Blake, present Commissioner Robert S. Miller, present Commissioner Donald A. Gilmore, present Commissioner Sally McGinnis, present Commissioner Joanne M. Krebs, present City Manager Ronald W. McLemore, arrived at 6:33 p.m. City Attorney Anthony A. Garganese, present A moment of silence was followed by the Pledge of Allegiance. PUBLIC INPUT City Manager Ronald W McLemore arrived at 6:33 p.m. Mr. Ron Lichthart, 1035 Winding Waters Circle, Winter Springs, Florida: discussed a document he handed out related to the Capital Improvement Program and asked, "Why did the City deviate as much as it did from the original 2001 Capital Improvement Program; why does it stay 3.77 in a 2004 document; and why does the 2004 document not have a projection on Millage rates? Is that a separate document?" Mayor Bush stated, "I will ask Mr. McLemore to respond to this - not now, but later." Ms. Karen GeBauer, 486 Seminole Woods Boulevard, Geneva, Florida: representing the Winter Springs Grizzlies, Ms. GeBauer spoke in favor of Regular Agenda Item "304". Mr. John Mason, 601 Timberwilde Court, Winter Springs, Florida: representing Winter Springs Babe Ruth, spoke oftheir support for Regular Agenda Item "304". CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - FEBRUARY 13, 2006 PAGE 2 OF 31 Mr. Art Gallo, 199 Nandina Terrace, Winter Springs, Florida: representing the Seminole Lacrosse League, Mr. Gallo spoke of the need for more fields in the City and thanked the Parks and Recreation Department. Mr. Bill Christie, 3520 Wild Eagle Run, Oviedo, Florida: representing the Central Florida United Soccer Club, Mr. Christie noted his support of Regular Agenda Item "304". Ms. Helga Schwarz, 720 Galloway Court, Winter Springs, Florida: commented on Regular Agenda Item "303" and the tax dollars used for drafting documents related to this Agenda Item. Ms. Schwarz also spoke on Regular Agenda Item "304" and mentioned her concern with expanding game play and area Perc Ponds. Mr. Joseph Coluccio, 751 Sybilwood Circle, Winter Springs, Florida: as a member of the Winter Springs Youth Sports Board of Directors, Mr. Coluccio remarked about the use of City fields and mentioned the good job that the Parks and Recreation Department does. Mr. Coluccio added that our "League has a specific set of boundaries that bounds them. Kids from other Cities cannot play here." AWARDS AND PRESENTATIONS AWARDS AND PRESENTATIONS 100. Office Of The Mayor Presentation Of Resolution 2006-03 To Mr. Vincent Giannoni For His Service On The Board Of Trustees. Mayor Bush presented Resolution 2006-03 to Mr. Vincent Giannoni. AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING REGULAR AGENDA ITEM WAS DISCUSSED NEXT, AS DOCUMENTED. REGULAR REGULAR 303. Office Of The City Manager Requesting The City Commission To Formally Receive The Report Of The East Rural Area Property Owner's Committee, Adopt Resolution Number 2006-09, And Establish A Date For A Special Meeting For Discussion And Deliberation Of The Committee's Recommendations. Manager McLemore introduced this Agenda Item. CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - FEBRUARY 13, 2006 PAGE 3 OF 31 Mr. Tom Minter, 1700 DeLeon Street, Oviedo, Florida: presented the Report to the City Commission. Mayor Bush read a written statement from East Rural Area Property Owner's Committee Member Mr. Rex Clonts who was not in attendance. "MOVE TO ACCEPT THE REPORT." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MILLER. DISCUSSION. REGARDING THE REPORT OF THE EAST RURAL AREA PROPERTY OWNER'S COMMITTEE, DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE SAID, "THIS DOCUMENT WILL BE ON THE WEB SITE, HOPEFULLY VERY, VERY SOON? HOPEFULLY THIS WEEK?" MANAGER McLEMORE STATED, "TOMORROW." DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE THEN SUGGESTED, "I WOULD HOPE ALSO THAT WE WOULD TAKE THIS DOCUMENT UP TO THE COUNTY, AND OVER TO THE CITY OF OVIEDO AND PRESENT IT TO THEM AS WELL AS THE LANDOWNERS' DOCUMENT." VOTE: DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE: AYE COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE MOTION CARRIED. As to the date for a Special Meeting, Deputy Mayor Michael S. Blake said, "Could we, at the end of the Meeting, under Seats, take a look at the date to set up the Workshop?" Mayor Bush stated, "Let us have a Motion for the adoption of the Resolution 2006-09." Mayor Bush read a portion of the Resolution into the Record. "I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE APPROVAL OF RESOLUTION - 2006-09." MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER KREBS. DISCUSSION. VOTE: COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE: AYE COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE MOTION CARRIED. CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - FEBRUARY 13,2006 PAGE 4 OF 31 Mayor Bush recognized the Members of the East Rural Area Property Owner's Committee, and presented each of those Members that were in attendance with Resolution 2006-09. For the record, Mayor Bush then read the rest of the Resolution. AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING PUBLIC INPUT WAS HELD NEXT, AS DOCUMENTED. .:..:. PUBLIC INPUT Mr. Chris Marlette, 102 Laurel Drive, Sanford, Florida: as the President of the Winter Springs Basketball League, Mr. Marlette introduced eleven (11) year old, Miss Felecia Coleman as a member of the All-Star for the Jr. NBA (National Basketball League)/Jr. WNBA (Women's National Basketball League). AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING PUBLIC HEARINGS AGENDA ITEMS WERE DISCUSSED IN THE ORDER AS DOCUMENTED. PUBLIC HEARINGS AGENDA PUBLIC HEARINGS 201. Community Development Department - Planning Division Requests The City Commission Hold A Public Hearing For First Reading And Transmittal Of Ordinance Number 2005-29, A Large Scale Comprehensive Plan Amendment, Referenced As LS-CP A-06-01 Which Changes The Future Land Use Map Designation From "Industrial" To "Medium Density Residential" For Seven (7) Parcels Containing 47.27 Acres, More Or Less, Less Areas 1 And 2, Located Between Shepard Road And Florida Avenue. (This Item Was Postponed From The January 9th [2006] And Again On January 23rd [2006] To Date Certain, i.e. February 13, 2006.) Mayor Bush stated, "Could we have a Motion to read by 'Title' only?" "SO MOVED." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE. DISCUSSION. VOTE: COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE DEPUTYMAYORBLAKE: AYE MOTION CARRIED. CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - FEBRUARY 13, 2006 PAGE 5 OF 31 For the Record, City Attorney Anthony A. Garganese read the Ordinance by "Title" only. Attorney Garganese said, "For members of the audience, there is sign-in form, I believe it's in the Lobby for anyone or any person that wants to be notified by the State Land Planning Agency regarding any Notices of Intent should the City Commission Transmit this matter to the Florida Department of Community Affairs." Ms. Eloise Sahlstrom, ASLA, AICP, Senior Planner, Community Development Department spoke on this Agenda Item. Tape lI Side B Discussion. Mayor Bush read a letter from the Economic Development Department dated February 2, 2006. Mayor Bush stated, "On page 15, it talks about the average price expected to be two hundred twenty-five thousand dollars ($225,000.00). What is the range of prices? Do we know what the range is?" Ms. M Rebecca Furman, Attorney, Lowndes Drosdick Doster Kantor & Reed, P.A., 215 North Eola Drive, Orlando, Florida: as Counsel for the Keewin Real Property Company, Ms. Furman stated, "It is a range from two hundred thousand dollars ($200,000.00) to two hundred seventy-five thousand dollars ($275,000.00) - but, with that in today's dollars, this is a project that, as you know, we are at a Transmittal stage now so we'd have to Transmit, come back for adoption, it would take us a couple of years to build. So who knows what our values will be at that time." Mr. George Kosmac, Deputy Superintendent, Seminole County Public Schools, 400 East Lake Mary Boulevard, Sanford, Florida: identified the capacity levels of Winter Springs schools and spoke on the possible impact of this project. Discussion ensued with Mr. Kosmac. Mr. Kosmac noted, "There is a commission meeting with all the Cities, the School Board and the County set for mid-April- where we're going to be discussing the plan for School Concurrency. " Further discussion. Commissioner Krebs asked, "When should we expect to see something on School Concurrency? When is that going to come before us, the citizens?" CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - FEBRUARY 13,2006 PAGE 6 OF 31 Mr. Kosmac remarked, "There is a team of Planners from all the Cities in the County working weekly on that. I believe there is a plan for a joint Work Session in mid-April which obviously would be open to the Public and there would be some follow on Hearings at each Commission Meeting after that. I would say between April and the end of September would be the time when most of the citizens could hear about Concurrency. " Discussion ensued on density, land uses, and taxable values. Tape 2/Side A Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item. Mr. Kenneth M Clayton, Esquire, Clayton & McColluch, 1065 Maitland Center Commons Boulevard, Maitland, Florida: as Counsel to the Highlands Homeowner's Association, noted he submitted a copy of a letter; reviewed some of their concerns; and also mentioned for the Record, that he was presenting to the City Commission an original Petition of signatures. Mr. Richie Moretti, 2396 Overseas Highway, Marathon, Florida: spoke of his concerns with the different Land-Uses and his concern with a change to 'Residential' Land-Use. Mr. Ross Burnaman, 1018 Holland Drive, Tallahassee, Florida: as an Attorney representing Mr. Moretti, Mr. Bumaman addressed what has been presented, and the density of this proposed Land-Use change. Mr. Bumaman also spoke for the Re.:;ord on the proposed 334 units and the School Board's analysis. Mr. Bryan Wilson, 702 Heritage Lane, Winter Springs, Florida: noted his concerns with increased traffic and the quality of life being affected by this proposed Land-Use change. Ms. Helga Schwarz, 720 Galloway Court, Winter Springs, Florida: remarked about the growth in the area related to schools, and spoke of the consumptive water permit. Mr. Eric Breininger, 1207 Lake Lucerne Circle, Winter Springs, Florida: noted his concern with traffic should this project go through and suggested that keeping the Land Use as 'Industrial' would have less traffic than the proposed Land-Use change. Ms. Joyce Holloway, 712 Glasgow Court, Winter Springs, Florida: did not address the City Commission, but Mayor Bush stated, "You are opposed." Mr. Leroy Holloway, 705 Glasgow Court, Winter Springs, Florida: also did not address the City Commission, but Mayor Bush noted, "Also is opposed." Ms. Kathy Holloway, 705 Glasgow Court, Winter Springs, Florida: did not address the City Commission, but Mayor Bush stated, "As well." CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - FEBRUARY 13,2006 PAGE 7 OF 31 Ms. Lorretta Sagers, 804 Kilt Court, Winter Springs, Florida: noted her concerns with an increase in traffic on Shepard Road; and spoke of the suggested decreasing prices associated with this project. Ms. Maria Redmon, 801 Kilt Court, Winter Springs, Florida: spoke of her concerns with being negatively affected by this proposed change, and remarked about the City of Longwood handling "First responder" emergency services. Tape 2/Side B Ms. Alisa Kaufman, 750 Tanglewood Drive, Winter Springs, Florida: commented on her support of the proposed change from "Industrial". Mayor Bush introduced former City of Winter Springs Commissioner Cindy Gennell. Ms. Cindy Gennell, 706 Meadowbrook Drive, Winter Springs, Florida: as the President of the Wildwood Homeowner's Association, Ms. Gennell noted she was submitting a signed Petition and spoke of area development issues. Mayor Bush next introduced former Mayor Paul P. Partyka and former City Commissioner Edward Martinez, Jr. Ms. Carla Wilson, 702 Heather Lane, Winter Springs, Florida: Mayor Bush stated, "Is opposed, but did not wish to address the Commission." Mr. Edward Martinez, Jr. 205 Little Creek Lane, Winter Springs, Florida: spoke of his preference for 'Residential' rather than 'Industrial' Zoning. Mr. Michael Carringer, 726 Lakeside Drive, Winter Springs, Florida: noted his support of this project. Tape 2/Side B Ms. Sandra Gomez, 509 Shane Circle, Winter Springs, Florida: spoke of her concern with the lack of trees and traffic problems. Ms. Jackie Parrilla, 707 Linden Drive, Winter Springs, Florida: did not address the City Commission, but Mayor Bush stated, "Jackie [Parrilla] is opposed." Mr. Richard Gennell, 706 Meadowbrook Drive, Winter Springs, Florida: asked that the City Commission support the proposed Transmittal. Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item. CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - FEBRUARY 13,2006 PAGE 8 OF 31 Ms. Furman stated, "First thing, I want to do is to disclose that I have had communication with Commissioner [Sally] McGinnis; I believe Commissioner [Donald A.] Gilmore and I spoke on the phone. Mayor, you and I spoke on the phone. Commissioner Blake, I have also spoken to you. I just wanted to put that out there. I also wanted to remind everyone, and I have got the name written down here, I believe that Alisa Kaufman did a really good job of it, and that is that at this point, we are at a Transmittal Hearing. Weare asking to Transmit a Comprehensive Plan Amendment that Amends your Comprehensive Plan for this property from 'Industrial' to 'Medium Density Residential'. So, things such as Mr. Clayton, he hasn't seen amenities. Well, we have got a Concept Plan, where we're going to include significant amounts of amenities - I don't know how he hasn't seen those things, maybe because there's been a serious lack of communication. We've tried to respond to things; we held a Community meeting; we informed the people at that time of our Concept Plan. Some of those things are a bit premature at this point. We would be happy to put down all of our promises in the form of a Developer's Agreement. We can work on that between now and Adoption. But, again, this is a Transmittal for the DCA [Department of Community Affairs] to take a look at this and to comment on it. Your Vote tonight does not change your adopted Comprehensive Plan. It simply sends this to the DCA [Department of Community Affairs] so they can Transmit for comment. I appreciate, Mayor, you reading the letter from Seminole County into the Record. I also wanted to read a letter from Mr. Dittmer, who we all know is the Property Owner; and again, as Alisa [Kaufman] pointed out, we have a willing seller and so any discussions tonight about the traffic that is going to be produced; the impacts this is going to have; a lot of the people in our position are showing that as opposed to this land staying the same. Is there going to be more traffic then there being nothing here? Yes. The question that is before you is 'Is there going to be more traffic here as 'Residential' then there would be as 'Industrial'? Mr. Dittmer is ready to sell this property. And, let me just read his letter." Ms. Furman read the letter from Mr. Walt Dittmer. Ms. Furman then said, "I wanted to introduce you to my client and that is the Keewin Real Property Company. They have developed over 12,000 residential units, developed and marketed, since 1978. They are high quality Developers. They are Developers and Acquisition Partners for Universal Studios, Rollins College, Winter Park Memorial Hospital, and Valencia Community College - as a member of the Central Florida Community, we know the high standards that these Colleges and businesses would hold someone that they go into a partnership to. Some of the communities, and I've mentioned these before, so people could go check them out - Windsong in Winter Park; the Landmark, which is a condominium project, also in Winter Park. CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - FEBRUARY 13,2006 PAGE 90F 31 I see that there are a few main concerns when you hear people talk about what they're concerned about in this. And, I think those can be nailed down to traffic, schools, and impact on property values. As far as traffic goes, I saw today, for the first time, the handout that your City Engineer prepared, and handed out, I have not seen that before, but I think that it very clearly demonstrates what we've tried to say. Which is, 'A 'Residential' Land-Use will not have the same traffic impacts both in daily trips, which is the number over the entire day of trips that will be produced; nor does it have the same a.m. and p.m. peak hour; which is really when you are trying to get to work or get home and when you get the most frustrated about being in traffic. That's when 'Industrial' shows, if you will see his Industrial Park numbers were almost double the a.m. peak hour as the 'Residential' would be. Another distinguishing factor in traffic is the type of traffic. 'Residential' obviously brings the type of cars that we all drive, whereas, 'Industrial' will bring in who knows what, it could be dump trucks, it could be delivery trucks, it could be 18-wheelers. And, I don't understand the belief that 'Residential' will cut through on Sheoah [Boulevard], but 'Industrial' won't. I don't exactly understand that. And, those are the kinds of things that we can look for and try to work with the Highlands in traffic reduction of cut- through. But, we have not gotten to that point. We haven't even been able to Transmit this to the DCA [Department of Community Affairs]. Your Staff Report says that there is capacity to handle this project on Shepard Road. We'll make whatever necessary improvements there needs to be made to that. Once this is transmitted to FDOT [Florida Department of Transportation], we'll have an opportunity to comment on it. And, I also think importantly, we have gone to the CRA [Community Redevelopment Agency] to talk to them and they said that Florida Avenue would be upgraded if this was approved as a 'Residential' use." Ms. Furman then spoke regarding Mr. Kosmac's comments and said, "As he mentioned, we have agreed to give one thousand two hundred and thirty-five dollars ($1,235.00) per unit on top of the Impact Fee. The Impact Fees for this is six hundred and thirty-nine dollars ($639.00). When he was talking about the seventy-five (75), the number of seventy-five (75) students using, I believe he used our 330 or 334 number. Again, that is our proposed number, we think we can develop. We have done a further Concept Plan where it brings us down to 317. It is a moving target right now. But, his impact numbers are based on a generation rate - for this type of use. And, if the project were to have around 330 units, as he said it would be about four hundred thousand dollars ($400,000.00) that we would give in addition to our Impact Fees. We would give those at the issuance of the first building permit. CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - FEBRUARY 13, 2006 PAGE 10 OF 31 There has been some talk about the school gets the money after the need is there. Well, it is going to take us approximately two (2) years to actually, once we pull a Building Permit, to build this out. So, the School Board would have use of that money and of our additional Impact Fees, which actually then adds up being more around a six hundred thousand dollar ($600,000.00) figure. To do with how the School Board sees fit, whether it's purchasing property for additional schools, or whatever, but that they would have the use of that money. The impact on property values seems to be very important, especially to the Wildwood residents. They believe, and I think that they're right, that the 'Industrial' use will continue to depress their values. The allegations that this is low income is completely ludicrous. The people that are developing this are not in the business of developing low income property. And, if there have been any allegations that the price has been one thing and then it has been another and then it has been another, I'll take some of the blame for that. Putting a price on these units is very difficult at this time. We don't know what is going to be in the future. And, you know, we've said that there - it would be an average of two [hundred] twenty-five [thousand dollars] ($225,000.00), yes, there may be a smaller unit that is two hundred [thousand dollars] ($200,000.00). There may be some units that are two [hundred] seventy-five [thousand dollars] ($275,00) or higher than that. So, I mean we can't make any promises on what we're going to sell these for. But they are certainly not low income houses. And if they were low income, we would have actually - you have to - apply to get funds to build the, because nobody can afford to build low income anymore. Some facts about the Wildwood property values - over the last two (2) years, the average sales price for Wildwood Condominiums has been one hundred and twelve thousand dollars ($112,000.00) and a hundred thousand dollars ($100,000.00); and, for their Wildwood Single Family Homes, have been at - one hundred and forty thousand dollars ($140,000.00). So, we believe that these high end, two-car garage, high quality townhouses, are going to help the values in Wildwood; certainly more than use of an 'Industrial' property. Recreational amenities - the idea that - people that live in our community aren't going to use the pool and the cabana and the park that are right outside their door - in our latest rendition of our Concept Plan, we're at almost fifty percent (50%) open face with pet park, outdoor barbeques, picnic areas. We have got jogging trails; fitness courses; gazebo in a lakeside park. The allegation that if you lived with brand new amenities that you would get in your car and drive a couple of miles to go use someone else's stuff, I cannot comprehend. We have talked about making this a gated community - we are going to provide recreational amenities and this is going, the plan is going to come before you all again. And, you can make sure that we do that to your liking. CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - FEBRUARY 13,2006 PAGE II OF 31 As far as, the loss of, just the fact that it is 'Industrial' property and Mr. Moretti spoke to the fact that he has a concern that, I mean certainly he is a Property Owner, and he has a bundle of rights that go with his property and his ability to use that property and by changing our Land-Use, our designation - from 'Industrial' to 'Residential' doesn't affect his use of property. We have tried to work with Mr. Moretti to give him and these assurances. I understand that he's concerned about noise. Well, you all have a Noise Ordinance and if that Noise Ordinance is being broken - we can't promise him that no one will have a concern with them. But, what we can say is that your Code and your Comp [Comprehensive] Plan do not impose on him any greater burden for set-backs or buffers or anything like that. In addition, on our property what has been planned and what's been in the works for a while - that I could just come up here and all of a sudden - change the Comp [Comprehensive] Plan." Ms. Furman continued, "We have been talking to this City to see what we can create that is compatible both to the side that's on Wildwood and the side that is on these 'Industrial' uses. And, one of the things that we have come up with that we would agree to put a six foot (6') high wall on top of a five foot (5') high berm. It would have trees, shrubbery, and most important to all trees and shrubs, some sort of - we'd have irrigation. So that on his side, we would buffer our 'Residential' Use. Because again, we are going to be selling these properties. And we do not want our potential buyers to come and tour it and look over and see some of those properties. So we will make these compatible. We have also agreed that in our Covenant, Conditions and Restrictions, commonly known as the CCR's, we will include a disclosure of the adjacent 'Commercial' and 'Industrial' uses so that our residents understand what they are moving in next to. Another property is the commonly known as the Elsea property, which is the property to the south. At the Planning and Zoning Meeting, a representative of the Elsea property opposed this for reasons of compatibility and we offer to bring that property into our development and we currently have a pending contract on that piece of property. City Staff has asked the Developer today if we'd agree to also Transmit that along with this. And, we are okay with doing that. And, that really wraps up how I wanted to respond to some of the things. I appreciate your time and patience. I know that many of you were here also on Monday [Tuesday, February 7, 2006] night when we tried to hold the Community meeting that we thought the Highlands wanted. I contacted the Highlands in January and asked them if I could use their meeting space to make it more convenient for the Highlands and I was told that they no available meeting space in the evenings or on the weekends until the end of February. So, that's when I then contacted the City and asked to use this." Discussion. Commissioner McGinnis asked the Developer, "What kind of a commitment would you be willing to make for road improvements and enhancements if in fact once this goes for Transmittal it is determined by the State but that is necessary." CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - FEBRUARY 13,2006 PAGE 12 OF 31 Ms. Furman said, "I don't know exactly how to answer that as far as what would we commit to - certainly, we have considered that we would have to do additional improvements to turn lanes, maybe some types of intersection improvements - certainly, to go forward once we have more in depth traffic analysis we will know what's required to get to adequate levels of service. So if you are asking for specific improvements, we can take those under consideration..." Commissioner McGinnis stated, "...But it is on the Table?" Ms. Furman stated, "Yes." Ms. Furman stated, "It is not just on the Table. We expect to do some type of improvements." Commissioner McGinnis added, "And, of course, there has been no Traffic Study done yet anyway. That will be done." Furthermore, Commissioner McGinnis stated, "The buffer between your proposed property and the rest of the 'Industrial' that fronts [Highway] 17-92..." Ms. Furman stated, "...Between our property - to the west, that would be a six foot (6') high wall on top of a five foot (5') high berm that would have landscape and shrubs that would be irrigated." Commissioner McGinnis said, "There was a Member here earlier from the P and Z Board [Planning And Zoning Board/Local Planning Agency] who had suggested that perhaps it is time for a new Visioning Workshop within the City which would help determine in fact if we do need 'Industrial'. Although I too have been speaking to people about this for several weeks, people are just stunned that 'Residential' would lower their property values. There is a recorder here tonight, I am sure she has never been to a Commission Meeting where people are fighting for 'Industrial'." Discussion. Tape 3/Side A Ms. Cindy Gennell, 706 Meadowbrook Drive, Winter Springs, Florida: spoke of the history of the property owned by Mr. Walt Dittmer. Deputy Mayor Blake said, "I just want to point out all these issues and make sure that we know that all we are doing is Transmitting a Comp [Comprehensive] Plan Amendment tonight - we are not doing a Rezoning, we are not approving a Site Plan, we are not approving a Development or a Density; or pools or parks or anything else." Commissioner McGinnis said, "As we progress through this, that at one point we have a Charette for the people in the Highlands and Wildwood as we do begin to talk about Site Plans. We have done that with other projects. I think this is definitely something we should do." CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - FEBRUARY 13,2006 PAGE 13 OF 31 Commissioner Gilmore said, "Traffic we have heard a lot of and traffic is going to be an issue no matter what is done out there. If it stays like it is traffic five (5) years from now is still going to be a problem. And I think it is up to the City, the City Staff, and the County to work things out so that it's acceptable. Furthermore, Commissioner Gilmore added, Schools is a major problem. I just fear that we are adding more portables and this is just a drop in the bucket. As near as I can see it is going to keep getting worse. Whether we improve this or not, it's not going to have any affect on that. We need more schools, probably smaller schools, neighborhood schools. But that is not our issue. 'Industrial' adjacent to Wildwood which Mr. Moretti brought up. He and I have talked several times about it and I well understand it. The problem here is, it doesn't matter if this stays 'Industrial', you are going still have 'Industrial' next to 'Residential'." Commissioner Joanne M. Krebs asked Manager McLemore, "Did anybody else get this letter that was from Ross Stafford Burnaman - February 6, 2006?" Commissioner Krebs then said, "City Manager, did you read the chronological - is it right?" Manager McLemore stated, "There are issues in there I think that need to be addressed, but I think they are entirely manageable." Commissioner Krebs added, "Because it did - talk about Mr. Dittmer's reasons for doing what he did. That came up and I read this and it sounded pretty logical, but I don't know if it was or not. So, I was just asking if it was fairly accurate?" Manager McLemore said, "Some of the things we agree with some of the things we don't." Commissioner Krebs said that regarding the "Existing lake on the property providing adequate outfall for the stormwater..." Ms. Furman stated, "... That is one of the things in Mr. Bumaman ... that was incorrect and we disagree with." Ms. Furman added, "In the Staff Report there is a thing on topography, but we are not doing stormwater into Boat Lake." Discussion. "I WANT TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION TO TRANSMIT THIS TO DCA [DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY AFFAIRS] FOR CONSIDERATION AND REVIEW. I WANT TO SLIGHTLY AMEND THE APPICATION THOUGH THAT WAS ORIGINALLY PRESENTED TO INCLUDE THE ELSEA PROPERTY ON FLORIDA AVENUE AS PART OF THE SUBMITTAL." MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE. ATTORNEY GARGANESE STATED, "THAT PROPERTY WASN'T NOTICED - IT IS NOT EVEN PART OF THE APPLICATION, IT WASN'T PART OF THE LPA (LOCAL PLANNING AGENCY) HEARINGS. SO, WE'RE NOT GOING TO AMEND IT WITHOUT AMENDING THE ADVERTISEMENT." CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING-FEBRUARY 13,2006 PAG13140F31 ATTORNEY GARGANESE THEN SAID, "I THOUGHT YOU WERE GOING TO AMEND THAT APPLICATION AND TRANSMIT IT. YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ON THAT ADDITIONAL PROPERTY, AFTER PUBLIC NOTICE." DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE THEN ASKED ABOUT THE SIZE OF THAT PROPERTY, TO WHICH MS. FURMAN STATED, "IT'S LESS THAN TEN (10) - WE'D BE HAPPY TO DO A SMALL-SCALE." "THEN THE MOTION IS TO TRANSMIT AS APPLIED FOR." MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MILLER. DISCUSSION. MANAGER McLEMORE COMMENTED, "I UNDERSTAND THAT'S WITH THE CONFIRMATION THAT THEY WILL DO THE SMALL SCALE TO ADD THAT LATER, IS THAT WHAT I AM HEARING?" DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE REMARKED, "YES." VOTE: DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE: AYE COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE COMMISSIONER KREBS: NAY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE MOTION CARRIED. Mayor Bush called a Recess at 10:07 p.m. Mayor Bush called the Meeting back to Order at 10:22 p. m. AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING AGENDA ITEMS WERE DISCUSSED IN THE ORDER AS DOCUMENTED. PUBLIC HEARINGS AGENDA PUBLIC HEARINGS 200. Community Development Department - Planning Division Requests The City Commission Hold A Public Hearing For The Aesthetic Review For Harbor Winds, A 62-Unit Town House Development, Located On The North Side Of SR (State Road) 434 Immediately East Of Golf Terrace Apartments, And Consider An Associated Amendment To The Development Agreement. Ms. Sahlstrom presented this Agenda Item. Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item. CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - FEBRUARY 13, 2006 PAGE 15 OF 31 Ms. Helga Schwarz, 720 Galloway Court, Winter Springs, Florida: asked about setbacks and spoke of trucks from the project turning left on Timberlane Trail and potential problems near Timberlane Trail. Deputy Mayor Blake returned to the Commission Chambers at 10:28 p.m. Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item. "I WILL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE AESTHETIC REVIEW AND THE FIRST AMENDMENT TO THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE. DISCUSSION. VOTE: COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE: AYE COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE MOTION CARRIED. PUBLIC HEARINGS 202. Office Of The City Manager Requesting The City Commission To Approve Second Reading Of Ordinance Number 2006-01 Adopting The Terms Of A Solid Waste Agreement With Waste Pro Of Florida, Inc. And To Adopt A Revised Rate Resolution (Number 2006-08) To Reflect Minor Changes To The Customer Rate Tables. Attorney Garganese read the Ordinance by "Title" only, and stated, "In the Solid Waste Franchise Agreement, Section '2.18' 'cpr, the language 'south, population less than 50,000' should have been stricken, and Staff is recommending that that language be stricken as part of the approval of this Contract." Mr. Kevin Smith, Director, General Services Department spoke on this Agenda Item and spoke of minor changes; to which Mr. Smith explained, "Two (2) changes that affect the Rate Resolution do not affect the actual rates, only the language of the Rate Resolution. Again most ofthe changes are minor, but I do want to point out and address those two (2) changes I just mentioned. CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - FEBRUARY 13, 2006 PAGE 16 OF 31 The first being as we talked about previously, using the semi automated system, we will provide each citizen with a ninety-six (96) gallon 'Toter' or roll-out 'Cart' - we will stay with that. We will also offer a sixty-four (64) gallon 'Cart' to those citizens that feel like the ninety-six (96) gallon 'Cart' may be too large or too cumbersome for their garage or yard or what not, so the standard 'Cart' if you will, will be the ninety-six (96) gallon option, with a sixty-four (64) gallon 'Cart' as a second or an alternative - no difference in price by the way to the citizens or to our payment to Waste Pro. As a result of that, there was some language in the Rate Resolution, a title, I had previously titled a line - ninety- six (96) gallon 'Cart'. I just removed the ninety-six (96) gallon and simply said 'Cart'." Discussion ensued on Special pickup language and bonafide needs. Tape 3/Side B Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item. Mr. Jack Graham, 667 Nighthawk Circle, Winter Springs, Florida: spoke of neighbors special needs for refuse assistance. With discussion on special needs, Mr. Smith explained, "We have information packets and we'll provide on our Website. Information is going out in the Newsletter." Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item. Commissioner Krebs inquired, "The fact that we do already provide that service - do we have names of those people of who we provide that service for, can we get that from our current provider?" Commissioner Krebs added, "We could ask for it, and then we could possibly notify them by - a special mailing - or whatever, to let them know directly how to go about.. ." Mayor Bush stated, "... Good idea." Mr. Smith remarked, "We will certainly ask." "I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION - TO APPROVE THE SECOND READING OF ORDINANCE 2006-01 MAKING MINOR REVISIONS TO THE SOLID WASTE CONTRACT WITH WASTE PRO OF FLORIDA, INC." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER KREBS. MAYOR BUSH SAID, "SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER GILMORE." DISCUSSION. DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE REFERENCED "'4.10' - 'TIRE COLLECTION' AND '4.11' 'SPECIAL PICKUP SERVICES'." MR. SMITH SPOKE OF CONFLICTS AND SAID, "YOU ARE CORRECT, AND WE WILL CORRECT THAT BEFORE FINALIZATION OF SIGNATURES." DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE ADDED, "I DON'T CARE IF YOU PUT IN THERE, OVER FOUR (4) PER YEAR OR SOMETHING." CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - FEBRUARY 13,2006 PAGE 17 OF 31 VOTE: DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE: AYE COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE MOTION CARRIED. Attorney Garganese then said, "We need to address the - amendment to Tables II and V - they're both - conforming amendments to the tables, based on the revised Solid Waste Franchise Agreement." Attorney Garganese added, "I would ask the Commission to just approve the revised Tables II and V and authorize the Mayor just to sign a very simple Resolution which approves these two (2) Tables." "I MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT RESOLUTION 2006-08 MAKING MINOR CHANGES TO THE SOLID WASTE - RESOLUTION - TABLES II AND V, AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR TO SIGN A SIMPLE RESOLUTION." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER KREBS. DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE INQUIRED, "DOES THAT INCORPORATE THE CHANGES AGREED ON BY THE PREVIOUS ACTION ITEM?" COMMISSIONER KREBS STATED "ABSOLUTELY." SECONDED. DISCUSSION. ATTORNEY GARGANESE NOTED, "YES, WE NEED TO DO A CONFORMING AMENDMENT THERE AS WELL." VOTE: COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE DEPUTYMAYORBLAKE: AYE COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE MOTION CARRIED. PUBLIC HEARINGS 203. Community Development Department - Planning Division Requests That The Commission Hold A Public Hearing For The Aesthetic Review Resubmittal Of The O-Mei Monument Sign Located At 113 SR (State Road) 434 Of The Moss Road International Office Complex. Ms. Sahlstrom presented her opening remarks related to this Agenda Item. Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item. No one spoke. CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - FEBRUARY 13,2006 PAGE 18 OF 31 Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item. "I WILL MOVE THAT WE APPROVE ITEM '203'." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. MAYOR BUSH NOTED, "SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER GILMORE." DISCUSSION. VOTE: COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE: AYE COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE MOTION CARRIED. REGULAR AGENDA REGULAR 300. N ot Used REGULAR 301. Office Of The City Manager Requesting The City Commission To Authorize The City Manager To Enter Into An Agreement With The National Golf Foundation To Perform A Feasibility Study Related To The City's Consideration Of Acquiring The Winter Springs Golf Course. Discussion. "I MAKE A MOTION WE AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO AGREEMENT WITH NATIONAL GOLF FOUNDATION TO PERFORM A FEASIBILITY STUDY ON ACQUIRING THE WINTER SPRINGS GOLF COURSE." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER GILMORE. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. COMMISSIONER GILMORE ADDED, "AND APPROPRIATE THE MONEY FROM THE GENERAL FUND RESERVES." DISCUSSION. VOTE: DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE: AYE COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE MOTION CARRIED. CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - FEBRUARY 13, 2006 PAGE 19 OF 31 REGULAR 302. Office Of The City Clerk Requests That Commissioner Joanne M. Krebs Make An Appointment To The Beautification Of Winter Springs Board. COMMISSIONER KREBS STATED, "I WOULD LIKE TO RECOMMEND DENISE RITCHEY FOR MY APPOINTMENT TO THE BOWS [BEAUTIFICATION OF WINTER SPRINGS BOARD] BOARD." MOTION. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. DISCUSSION. VOTE: COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE: AYE COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE MOTION CARRIED. REGULAR 304. Parks And Recreation Department Requesting City Commission Approval Of Resolution Number 2006-11 That Establishes A Policy For The Use Of The Central Winds Park Expansion Area. Mr. Chuck Pula, Director, Parks and Recreation Department addressed the City Commission on this Agenda Item. Commissioner Miller left the Commission Chambers at 11 :01 p.m. "I MOVE WE APPROVE RESOLUTION 2006-11, WHICH ESTABLISHES POLICY FOR THE CENTRAL WINDS PARK EXPANSION." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER GILMORE. DISCUSSION. VOTE: COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE DEPUTYMAYORBLAKE: AYE COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE (VOICE VOTE AUDIBLE TO MEMBERS OF THE CITY COMMISSION, AND THE CITY CLERK) MOTION CARRIED. CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETlNG - FEBRUARY 13,2006 PAGE 20 OF 31 REGULAR 305. Not Used REGULAR 306. Parks And Recreation Department Requesting Consideration Of A Monthly Senior Citizen Award Program And If Approved A Supplemental Appropriation From General Fund Reserves Of $3,600.00 For Six (6) Months Of This FY (Fiscal Year). Commissioner Miller returned to the Dais at 11:06 p.m. Discussion ensued with Mr. Pula. "MOTION TO EXTEND THIRTY (30) MINUTES." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER KREBS. SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE. DISCUSSION. VOTE: COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE: AYE MOTION CARRIED. With further discussion, Commissioner Krebs asked where the Awards would be placed; Commissioner McGinnis said more details were needed; and Mayor Bush asked where they would be displayed. Tape 4/Side A Deputy Mayor Blake stated, "I think if Chuck [Pula) can find a way to - in terms of the branding stuff, that nice professional looking stuff, you would be surprised what you can get out there, even from High School kids - but develop a way to make - have a contest, a thousand dollar ($1,000.00) reward for Winter Springs residents to design... " Mayor Bush said, "...Let's give Chuck [Pula) an opportunity to think about this and come back - at the next Meeting with some alternatives, everybody in agreement with that?" Commissioner Krebs stated, "I agree." Commissioner McGinnis remarked, "Yes." No objections were noted. CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - FEBRUARY 13,2006 PAGE 21 OF 31 REGULAR 307. Not Used REGULAR 308. Office Of The City Manager Requesting The City Commission To Set A Date For The Second Winter Springs/Oviedo Meeting. With discussion on the availability of the City Commission, Mayor Bush stated, "How about the 20th [of March]? Everybody?" Commissioner McGinnis stated, "Good." No objections were noted for this date. Mayor Bush then stated, "The 3rd and 4th [of April, 2006] is okay with everybody, right?" Commissioner McGinnis said, "Yes." No objections were noted for these dates either. CONSENT AGENDA CONSENT 400. Community Development Department - Urban Beautification Services Division Requesting Authorization To Revise The Baseline City Standard Streetlight Rate For 2006 From $12.14 To $13.29 Per Streetlight. No discussion. CONSENT 401. Community Development Department - Urban Beautification Services Division Requesting Authorization To Increase The Scope Of Work For The SR (State Road) 434 Landscape Maintenance Contract Due To The Completion Of The Village Walk Project. Commissioner Gilmore asked Mr. Steve Richart, Urban Beautification Division Services Manager, Community Development Department, "Where did you come up with these numbers for these tables?" With discussion on where the information was located, Commissioner Gilmore added, "We don't have that sheet." CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - FEBRUARY 13, 2006 PAGE 22 OF 31 Deputy Mayor remarked '''401' is the additional landscape work - Village Walk area of [State Road] 434, is it done? Is the landscaping complete out there?" Mr. Richart noted, "The access management project was signed off on January 16th..." Deputy Mayor Blake then said, "... So, all the landscaping I see out there in that corridor is what is going to be provided?" Mr. Richart stated, "Yes." Deputy Mayor Blake commented to Manager McLemore, "We need to go take a ride." Deputy Mayor Blake added, "And I would like to take out the drawings that show us what we are getting." With discussion, Commissioner McGinnis said, "Now I think it would be nice when this is totally completed, if we could have some kind of a Ceremony." AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING CONSENT AGENDA ITEM WAS DISCUSSED SEPARATELY WITH A VOTE, FOLLOWED BY THE REST OF THE CONSENT AGENDA, AS DOCUMENTED. CONSENT AGENDA CONSENT 402. Office Of The City Attorney Requests The City Commission Consider And Approve Transportation Disadvanta2ed Services A2reement Second Addendum On First Reading. Discussion ensued on whether this Agenda Item should be on the Consent Agenda. "TABLE TO THE NEXT MEETING." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MILLER. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. DISCUSSION. VOTE: COMMISSIONER GILMORE COMMISSIONER McGINNIS COMMISSIONER KREBS COMMISSIONER MILLER DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE MOTION CARRIED. Deputy Mayor Blake added, "It would be interesting to know if we looked at any other providers. " CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - FEBRUARY 13,2006 PAGE 23 OF 31 CONSENT AGENDA CONSENT 403. Public Works Department Requesting Authorization For ArchitecturallEngineering Construction Administration Services With Starmer Ranaldi Planning And Architecture Inc. For The Utility/Public Works Compound Construction. Brief discussion. CONSENT 404. Public Works Department - Utility Department Requesting Approval For A Supplemental Appropriation From The Utility Enterprise Fund And Change Order Number 1 For A Second Storage Building For The UtilitylPublic Works Facility Project. There was no discussion on this Agenda Item. CONSENT 405. Public Works Department Requesting Authorization To Purchase One (1) Medium Dump Truck By Piggybacking Off Of Florida Sheriff's Association Bid [Number] 04-12-0823. This Agenda Item was not discussed. CONSENT 406. Utility Department Requesting Approval To Purchase [One] (1) Ford F-550 (17,500 Lb. GVWR Cab And Chassis, 4x2) By Piggybacking Off Of Florida Sheriff's Association Bid Number 04-12-0824 With Don Reid Ford. No discussion. CONSENT 407. Public Works Department Requesting Authorization To Purchase One (1) 15 Foot Flex-Wing Mower By Piggybacking Orf Of State Road Number 765 900P. There was no discussion on this Agenda Item. CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - FEBRUARY 13,2006 PAGE 24 OF 31 CONSENT 408. Public Works Department Requesting Authorization To Purchase One (1) Brushffree Chipper By Piggybacking Off Of Broward County, Florida Bid Number CI05005FF. This Agenda Item was not discussed. CONSENT 409. Public Works Department Requesting Authorization To Purchase One (1) Medium Dump Truck By Piggybacking Off Of Florida Sheriffs Association Bid Number 04-12-0824. No discussion. CONSENT 410. Information Services Department Requests Authorization For The City Manager To Contract With And Pay Paul Consulting Incorporated (PCI) For Scanning Of Community Development Large Format Documents In The Amount Of $33,370.00. With discussion, Deputy Mayor Blake pointed to a document on the screen and said to Ms. Joanne Dalka, Director, Information Services Department, "The quality is really poor. Why can't we have higher quality scanned documents in our system, or even better, why can't we have documents that are created, say in Word™, created electronically into PDFTM format - I understand it wouldn't then have the handwritten stuff on it, but it would be a much cleaner, easier to read, better archived copy for us to refer back to?" Ms. Dalka spoke of the state mandated 300 dpi." Commissioner McGinnis left the dais at approximately 11:50 p.m. Deputy Mayor Blake noted, "It doesn't look like 300 dpi though." Commissioner Krebs commented, "It looks like a fax copy." Ms. Dalka said, "We can work on that. There are different settings on the scanner, that we can adjust." Deputy Mayor Blake added, "These are graphics resolutions - if we can get away from those and have it actually an OCR type PDFTM, for one thing, it is just easier to read and you can search through it more easily." Ms. Dalka then said, "We can definitely take a look at this, this readjustment of settings." CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - FEBRUARY 13, 2006 PAGE 25 0F 31 CONSENT 411. Information Services Department Requests Additional Appropriation In The Amount Of $3,500.00 To Replace The AlC Unit In Telephone Room At Police Department. This Agenda Item was not discussed. CONSENT 412. Office Of The City Clerk Requesting Approval Of The January 23, 2006 Regular City Commission Meeting Minutes. No discussion. AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING VOTE WAS FOR THE CONSENT AGENDA MINUS CONSENT AGENDA ITEM "402" WHICH WAS VOTED ON PREVIOUSLY, AS AN INDIVIDUAL ITEM. Mayor Bush stated, "Can we have a Motion on the Consent Agenda?" "SO MOVED." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MILLER. MAYOR BUSH STATED, "SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BLAKE." DISCUSSION. VOTE: COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE (VOICE VOTE AUDIBLE TO MEMBERS OF THE CITY COMMISSION, AND THE CITY CLERK) COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE DEPUTYMAYORBLAKE: AYE COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE MOTION CARRIED. Commissioner McGinnis returned to the dais at 11:52 p.m. INFORMATIONAL AGENDA INFORMATIONAL 500. Community Development Department Advising The City Commission Of The Status Of Various Current Planning Projects. No discussion. CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - FEBRUARY 13, 2006 PAGE 26 OF 31 INFORMATIONAL 501. Parks And Recreation Department Notifying The City Commission Of The Status Of The Florida Recreational Development Assistance Program Grant Regarding Trotwood Park. Brief discussion. INFORMATIONAL 502. Parks And Recreation Department Wishes To Inform The City Commission That The Date Of The Easter Egg Hunt Is Changed From April 8, 2006 To April 15, 2006. No discussion. INFORMATIONAL 503. Not Used INFORMATIONAL 504. Public Works Department - Capital Projects Coordinator Providing The City Commission With Information On Procurement Of Professional Services. There was no discussion on this Agenda Item. INFORMATIONAL 505. Parks And Recreation Department Wishes To Further Inform The City Commission Regarding The Winter Springs Celebration Of Spring "Spring Festival". No discussion. INFORMATIONAL 506. Police Department Informing The Commission Of Its Application For State Of Florida Grant Assistance, Through The Florida Emergency Management Preparedness And Assistance Trust Fund. This Agenda Item was not discussed. CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - FEBRUARY 13,2006 PAGE 27 OF 3I "MOTION TO APPROVE." MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MILLER. DISCUSSION. VOTE: COMMISSIONER GILMORE DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE COMMISSIONER KREBS COMMISSIONER McGINNIS COMMISSIONER MILLER MOTION CARRIED. REPORTS REPORTS 600. Office Of The City Attorney - Anthony A. Garganese, Esquire No Report. REPORTS 601. Office Of The City Manager - Ronald W. McLemore Manager McLemore stated, "I don't think we have done all we can do, for this issue on the Transmittal - If you want to spend money on Public Relations, here is a place to spend it. One, I think we ought to put out a special letter to those people explaining what you've done and why you did it." Manager McLemore added, "I think we should have a special letter in our Newsletter explaining what happened here tonight and what your thought process was." Furthermore, Manager McLemore said, "A factual source of information - we need to put it out. We have done it before as a letter from the Mayor." Deputy Mayor Blake stated, "I agree." Secondly, Manager McLemore said, "I strongly feel that we should go through the community planning - Charette process. I think we ought to have some dialogue with the Developer, see if we can do this; get people involved in this process and potentially come back with a set of recommendations that will diffuse the entire situation." Commissioner McGinnis suggested, "Could we have a letter from the Mayor then, to go out. I like that better than putting it in the Newsletter." Mayor Bush added, "The Manager has asked for two (2) things here, the letter and a Charette." Commissioner McGinnis stated, "Both." Discussion. CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - FEBRUARY 13,2006 PAGE 28 OF 31 "I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE AUTHORIZE THE MAYOR TO DRAFT A LETTER - THE CITY MANAGER AND THE MAYOR WILL HAVE FINAL SAY WHAT GOES IN THE LETTER." MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE. MAYOR BUSH STATED, "SECOND BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS." DISCUSSION. VOTE: DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE: AYE COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE MOTION CARRIED. With discussion on a Meeting to discuss the Rural Lands issue, Mayor Bush summarized the Commission's agreement to meet as, "Wednesday, February 22nd, {2006] - 7:30 {p.m.]." Regarding whether the Consultant's would also be available on this date, Mayor Bush said to Manager McLemore, "If they can't, let us know, we will pick another." Manager McLemore then said, "Do you want a Special Meeting or a Workshop?" Manager McLemore stated, "Special Meeting." Mayor Bush then noted, "Special Meeting then on that date, February 22nd {2006]." REPORTS 602. Office Of The City Clerk - Andrea Lorenzo-Luaces, CMC City Clerk Andrea Lorenzo-Luaces, CMC briefly mentioned the Special Meeting scheduled for next Monday, February 20, 2006. REPORTS 603. Commission Seat Three - Donald A. Gilmore Commissioner Gilmore stated that the "Tuscawilla Homeowner's Association would like to install two (2) flagpoles at the main entrance to Tuscawilla, behind the signage, and they are paying for this." Commissioner Gilmore then inquired, "Can this Commission authorize them to proceed with the installation of two (2) flagpoles, and lights?" Attorney Garganese stated, "I don't know without pulling the Easement document." With discussion, Manager McLemore suggested, "I think we should Agenda this for the next Meeting..." Commissioner McGinnis said, "...Yes..." Manager McLemore added, ". .. So we can do a proper analysis." Commissioner Gilmore remarked, "Will you Agenda it then?" No objection was noted. CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - FEBRUARY 13, 2006 PAGE 29 OF 31 REPORTS 604. Commission Seat Four - Sally McGinnis Commissioner McGinnis asked about the status of George Street; and parking, and sidewalks. Brief discussion. Commissioner McGinnis mentioned she had a Valentine for everyone and would bring it next week. Commissioner McGinnis mentioned that George Columbo's son won "The award with the Philharmonic for the 'Young Composer' Award." Mayor Bush said "Andrea [Lorenzo-Luaces] would you get a hold of the Columbo's" on this matter? City Clerk Lorenzo-Luaces acknowledged that she would. REPORTS 605. Commission Seat Five - Joanne M. Krebs Commissioner Krebs mentioned that she received a telephone call from Mr. John Rickards regarding Mayor Bush and 'No Soliciting' signs for Oak Forest. With discussion on this issue, Mayor Bush stated, "Why don't we ask Mr. McLemore to write him a letter..." Commissioner Krebs noted, "...Let the Homeowner's know what we can and what we can't do, and if we can't put signs out on - right-of-way - there is no doubt about that, then we don't do it." Mayor Bush then said, "Does the Commission agree that Mr. McLemore would write him a letter to respond to this?" Commissioner Krebs stated, "I am fine with that." No objections were voiced. Tape 4/Side B Commissioner Krebs spoke of taking painting lessons in Casselberry and explained, "I spoke with Linda Moore, who is the Casselberry Projects Coordinator for Parks and Recreation, and they have a really, really good program, and Ron [McLemore], I would like to get with you and go over that program and maybe - see about bringing that to the Commission as an Item or something like that, because I just really think we should broaden our Arts in the City here." Manager McLemore said, "Okay." Commissioner Krebs remarked about the "Issue with the forty-seven (47) acres - I feel like we had a plan to follow, which is one of reasons I voted 'No', and I just feel like in the future - maybe we need to look at all areas in the City - I think somebody brought it up, I think Commissioner McGinnis you may have even said something..." Commissioner McGinnis stated, " . . . Visioning. . . " Commissioner Krebs remarked, ".. . Yes, Visioning on Future Land-Use in all areas of this City that might possibly need to be changed." CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - FEBRUARY 13,2006 PAGE 30 OF 31 Discussion. With further discussion on the "Arts" issue, Commissioner McGinnis spoke of the City of Casselberry having a Senior Citizens Advisory Board. Commissioner Krebs suggested that, "1 would like support from the Commission to - maybe bring something back to the Commission to look at, for us to get involved in Parks and Rec{reationj." Mayor Bush then said, "Do the Commissioners have any objection to Commissioner Krebs doing as she said?" Commissioner McGinnis said, 'Anything we do there is great." Mayor Bush summarized, "1 don't think there is any objection for Mr. McLemore." Manager McLemore remarked, "My only issue is Advisory Board." Commissioner Krebs stated, "I am not talking about an Advisory Board." REPORTS 606. Office Of The Mayor - John F. Bush Mayor Bush commented that Manager McLemore had asked him to contact Winter Springs High School regarding the upcoming Spring Concert and to see if there might be a way to get participation from the School, however, Mayor Bush noted some conflicts, and stated, "My daughter is working on that." Mayor Bush asked about Signage problems on Tanglewood [Drive] mentioned by Alisa Kaufman and different street signs, especially by the Homeowners Association. Mr. Kip Lockcuff, P.E., Director, Public WorkslUtility Department mentioned, "Scott's [Dye, Customer Service Manager, Community Development Department] group is looking at it - with their 9-1-1." Mayor Bush said, "And those are HOA (Homeowner's Association) signs?" Mr. Lockcuff stated, "Yes." Mayor Bush added, "Does she know that - okay, 1 will say something to her." Mr. Lockcuff said, "1 am going to write a letter to the HOA (Homeowner's Association) and tell them what they should be at least." Commissioner McGinnis suggested that "For the next Newsletter, if there could be a little blurb in there to remind people to be sure they have their house numbers visible. It's a real public safety issue." Manager McLemore stated, "Okay." CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - FEBRUARY 13, 2006 PAGE 31 OF 31 Mayor Bush stated, "I am anxious for us to meet again with the Oviedo people - and hopefully by that time we will have got the Report from the East Rural study group and to try to start addressing this issue with the Black Hammock and get it behind us." Manager McLemore suggested, "I think we should invite them to the Workshop." Mayor Bush said, "Yes, definitely, and the County too, we should invite them. Does the Commission have any objection inviting the County and the Oviedo Council to our Workshop?" Commissioner McGinnis said, "No - everybody." There were no objections from the City Commission. REPORTS 607. Commission Seat One - Robert S. Miller No Report. REPORTS 608. Commission Seat Two/Deputy Mayor - Michael S. Blake Deputy Mayor Blake said now that we have the "East Rural Area Property Owner's Committee Report - which we will have a Special Meeting to discuss and formally adopt it, I will be making a request for us to do a Fiscal Impact Analysis to determine whether or not it makes economic sense for the City to be interested in annexing some, all, or some part, or all, or none of this area that we have defined in here,' if it will develop as is agreed upon within the document." Deputy Mayor Blake then said, "I would ask the Commissioner's support on initiating that type of a Fiscal Analysis." Mayor Bush inquired, "Do we have Consensus on that?" Commissioner Krebs stated, "I agree." Commissioner Miller also said, "Yes." With no objections, Mayor Bush stated, "We do." ADJOURNMENT Mayor Bush adjourned the Regular Meeting at 12:25 a.m. RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED: ANDREA LORENZO-LUACES, CMC CITY CLERK APPROVED: JOHN F. BUSH MAYOR NOTE: These Minutes were approved at the , 2006 Regular City Commission Meeting. CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING FEBRUARY 13,2006 CALL TO ORDER The Regular Meeting of Monday, February 13, 2006 of the City Commission was called to order by Mayor John F. Bush at 6:30 p.m. in the Commission Chambers of the Municipal Building (City Hall, 1126 East State Road 434, Winter Springs, Florida 32708). Roll Call: Mayor John F. Bush, present Deputy Mayor Michael S. Blake, present Commissioner Robert S. Miller, present Commissioner Donald A. Gilmore, present Commissioner Sally McGinnis, present Commissioner Joanne M. Krebs, present City Manager Ronald W. McLemore, arrived at 6:33 p.m. City Attorney Anthony A. Garganese, present A moment of silence was followed by the Pledge of Allegiance. PUBLIC INPUT City Manager Ronald W McLemore arrived at 6:33 p.m. Mr. Ron Lichthart, 1035 Winding Waters Circle, Winter Springs, Florida: discussed a document he handed out related to the Capital Improvement Program and asked, "Why did the City deviate as much as it did from the original 2001 Capital Improvement Program; why does it stay 3.77 in a 2004 document; and why does the 2004 document not have a projection on Millage rates? Is that a separate document?" Mayor Bush stated, "I will ask Mr. McLemore to respond to this - not now, but later." Ms. Karen GeBauer, 486 Seminole Woods Boulevard, Geneva, Florida: representing the Winter Springs Grizzlies, Ms. GeBauer spoke in favor of Regular Agenda Item "304". Mr. John Mason, 601 Timberwilde Court, Winter Springs, Florida: representing Winter Springs Babe Ruth, spoke of their support for Regular Agenda Item "304". CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - FEBRUARY 13,2006 PAGE 2 OF 31 Mr. Art Gallo, 199 Nandina Terrace, Winter Springs, Florida: representing the Seminole Lacrosse League, Mr. Gallo spoke of the need for more fields in the City and thanked the Parks and Recreation Department. Mr. Bill Christie, 3520 Wild Eagle Run, Oviedo, Florida: representing the Central Florida United Soccer Club, Mr. Christie noted his support of Regular Agenda Item "304". Ms. Helga Schwarz, 720 Galloway Court, Winter Springs, Florida: commented on Regular Agenda Item "303" and the tax dollars used for drafting documents related to this Agenda Item. Ms. Schwarz also spoke on Regular Agenda Item "304" and mentioned her concern with expanding game play and area Perc Ponds. Mr. Joseph Coluccio, 751 Sybilwood Circle, Winter Springs, Florida: as a member of the Winter Springs Youth Sports Board of Directors, Mr. Coluccio remarked about the use of City fields and mentioned the good job that the Parks and Recreation Department does. Mr. Coluccio added that our "League has a specific set of boundaries that bounds them. Kids from other Cities cannot play here." AWARDS AND PRESENTATIONS AWARDS AND PRESENT A nONs 100. Office Of The Mayor Presentation Of Resolution 2006-03 To Mr. Vincent Giannoni For His Service On The Board Of Trustees. Mayor Bush presented Resolution 2006-03 to Mr. Vincent Giannoni. .:. .:. AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING REGULAR AGENDA ITEM WAS DISCUSSED NEXT, AS DOCUMENTED. .:..:. REGULAR REGULAR 303. Office Of The City Manager Requesting The City Commission To Formally Receive The Report Of The East Rural Area Property Owner's Committee, Adopt Resolution Number 2006-09, And Establish A Date For A Special Meeting For Discussion And Deliberation Of The Committee's Recommendations. Manager McLemore introduced this Agenda Item. CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - FEBRUARY 13, 2006 PAGE 3 OF 31 Mr. Tom Minter, 1700 DeLeon Street, Oviedo, Florida: presented the Report to the City Commission. Mayor Bush read a written statement from East Rural Area Property Owner's Committee Member Mr. Rex Clonts who was not in attendance. "MOVE TO ACCEPT THE REPORT." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MILLER. DISCUSSION. REGARDING THE REPORT OF THE EAST RURAL AREA PROPERTY OWNER'S COMMITTEE, DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE SAID, "THIS DOCUMENT WILL BE ON THE WEBSITE, HOPEFULLY VERY, VERY SOON? HOPEFULLY THIS WEEK?" MANAGER McLEMORE STATED, "TOMORROW." DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE THEN SUGGESTED, "I WOULD HOPE ALSO THAT WE WOULD TAKE THIS DOCUMENT UP TO THE COUNTY, AND OVER TO THE CITY OF OVIEDO AND PRESENT IT TO THEM AS WELL AS THE LANDOWNERS' DOCUMENT." VOTE: DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE: AYE COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE MOTION CARRIED. As to the date for a Special Meeting, Deputy Mayor Michael S. Blake said, "Could we, at the end ofthe Meeting, under Seats, take a look at the date to set up the Workshop?" Mayor Bush stated, "Let us have a Motion for the adoption of the Resolution 2006-09." Mayor Bush read a portion ofthe Resolution into the Record. "I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE APPROVAL OF RESOLUTION - 2006-09." MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER KREBS. DISCUSSION. VOTE: COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE: AYE COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE MOTION CARRIED. CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - FEBRUARY 13, 2006 PAGE 4 OF 31 Mayor Bush recognized the Members of the East Rural Area Property Owner's Committee, and presented each of those Members that were in attendance with Resolution 2006-09. For the record, Mayor Bush then read the rest of the Resolution. .:..:. AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING PUBLIC INPUT WAS HELD NEXT, AS DOCUMENTED. .:. .:. PUBLIC INPUT Mr. Chris Marlette, 102 Laurel Drive, Sanford, Florida: as the President of the Winter Springs Basketball League, Mr. Marlette introduced eleven (11) year old, Miss Felecia Coleman as a member of the All-Star for the Jr. NBA (National Basketball League)/Jr. WNBA (Women's National Basketball League). .:..:. AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING PUBLIC HEARINGS AGENDA ITEMS WERE DISCUSSED IN THE ORDER AS DOCUMENTED. .:..:. PUBLIC HEARINGS AGENDA PUBLIC HEARINGS 201. Community Development Department - Planning Division Requests The City Commission Hold A Public Hearing For First Reading And Transmittal Of Ordinance Number 2005-29, A Large Scale Comprehensive Plan Amendment, Referenced As LS-CP A-06-01 Which Changes The Future Land Use Map Designation From "Industrial" To "Medium Density Residential" For Seven (7) Parcels Containing 47.27 Acres, More Or Less, Less Areas 1 And 2, Located Between Shepard Road And Florida Avenue. (This Item Was Postponed From The January 9th [2006] And Again On January 23rd [2006] To Date Certain, i.e. February 13,2006.) Mayor Bush stated, "Could we have a Motion to read by 'Title' only?" "SO MOVED." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE. DISCUSSION. VOTE: COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE: AYE MOTION CARRIED. CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - FEBRUARY 13, 2006 PAGE 5 OF 31 For the Record, City Attorney Anthony A. Garganese read the Ordinance by "Title" only. Attorney Garganese said, "For members of the audience, there is sign-in form, I believe it's in the Lobby for anyone or any person that wants to be notified by the State Land Planning Agency regarding any Notices of Intent should the City Commission Transmit this matter to the Florida Department of Community Affairs." Ms. Eloise Sahlstrom, ASLA, AICP, Senior Planner, Community Development Department spoke on this Agenda Item. Tape I/Side B Discussion. Mayor Bush read a letter from the Economic Development Department dated February 2, 2006. Mayor Bush stated, "On page 15, it talks about the average price expected to be two hundred twenty-five thousand dollars ($225,000.00). What is the range of prices? Do we know what the range is?" Ms. M Rebecca Furman, Attorney, Lowndes Drosdick Doster Kantor & Reed, P.A., 215 North Eola Drive, Orlando, Florida: as Counsel for the Keewin Real Property Company, Ms. Furman stated, "It is a range from two hundred thousand dollars ($200,000.00) to two hundred seventy-five thousand dollars ($275,000.00) - but, with that in today's dollars, this is a project that, as you know, we are at a Transmittal stage now so we'd have to Transmit, come back for adoption, it would take us a couple of years to build. So who knows what our values will be at that time." Mr. George Kosmac, Deputy Superintendent, Seminole County Public Schools, 400 East Lake Mary Boulevard, Sanford, Florida: identified the capacity levels of Winter Springs schools and spoke on the possible impact of this project. Discussion ensued with Mr. Kosmac. Mr. Kosmac noted, "There is a commission meeting with all the Cities, the School Board and the County set for mid-April- where we're going to be discussing the plan for School Concurrency. " Further discussion. Commissioner Krebs asked, "When should we expect to see something on School Concurrency? When is that going to come before us, the citizens?" CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - FEBRUARY 13,2006 PAGE 6 OF 31 Mr. Kosmac remarked, "There is a team of Planners from all the Cities in the County working weekly on that. I believe there is a plan for a joint Work Session in mid-April which obviously would be open to the Public and there would be some follow on Hearings at each Commission Meeting after that. I would say between April and the end of September would be the time when most of the citizens could hear about Concurrency. " Discussion ensued on density, land uses, and taxable values. Tape 2/Side A Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item. Mr. Kenneth M Clayton, Esquire, Clayton & McColluch, 1065 Maitland Center Commons Boulevard, Maitland, Florida: as Counsel to the Highlands Homeowner's Association, noted he submitted a copy of a letter; reviewed some of their concerns; and also mentioned for the Record, that he was presenting to the City Commission an original Petition of signatures. Mr. Richie Moretti, 2396 Overseas Highway, Marathon, Florida: spoke of his concerns with the different Land-Uses and his concern with a change to 'Residential' Land-Use. Mr. Ross Burnaman, 1018 Holland Drive, Tallahassee, Florida: as an Attorney representing Mr. Moretti, Mr. Bumaman addressed what has been presented, and the density of this proposed Land-Use change. Mr. Burnaman also spoke for the Re.::ord on the proposed 334 units and the School Board's analysis. Mr. Bryan Wilson, 702 Heritage Lane, Winter Springs, Florida: noted his concerns with increased traffic and the quality oflife being affected by this proposed Land-Use change. Ms. Helga Schwarz, 720 Galloway Court, Winter Springs, Florida: remarked about the growth in the area related to schools, and spoke of the consumptive water permit. Mr. Eric Breininger, 1207 Lake Lucerne Circle, Winter Springs, Florida: noted his concern with traffic should this project go through and suggested that keeping the Land Use as 'Industrial' would have less traffic than the proposed Land-Use change. Ms. Joyce Holloway, 712 Glasgow Court, Winter Springs, Florida: did not address the City Commission, but Mayor Bush stated, "You are opposed." Mr. Leroy Holloway, 705 Glasgow Court, Winter Springs, Florida: also did not address the City Commission, but Mayor Bush noted, "Also is opposed." Ms. Kathy Holloway, 705 Glasgow Court, Winter Springs, Florida: did not address the City Commission, but Mayor Bush stated, "As well." CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - FEBRUARY 13,2006 PAGE 7 OF 31 Ms. Lorretta Sagers, 804 Kilt Court, Winter Springs, Florida: noted her concerns with an increase in traffic on Shepard Road; and spoke of the suggested decreasing prices associated with this project. Ms. Maria Redmon, 801 Kilt Court, Winter Springs, Florida: spoke of her concerns with being negatively affected by this proposed change, and remarked about the City of Longwood handling "First responder" emergency services. Tape 2/Side B Ms. Alisa Kaufman, 750 Tanglewood Drive, Winter Springs, Florida: commented on her support of the proposed change from "Industrial". Mayor Bush introduced former City of Winter Springs Commissioner Cindy Gennell. Ms. Cindy Gennell, 706 Meadowbrook Drive, Winter Springs, Florida: as the President of the Wildwood Homeowner's Association, Ms. Gennell noted she was submitting a signed Petition and spoke of area development issues. Mayor Bush next introduced former Mayor Paul P. Partyka and former City Commissioner Edward Martinez, Jr. Ms. Carla Wilson, 702 Heather Lane, Winter Springs, Florida: Mayor Bush stated, "Is opposed, but did not wish to address the Commission." Mr. Edward Martinez, Jr. 205 Little Creek Lane, Winter Springs, Florida: spoke of his preference for 'Residential' rather than 'Industrial' Zoning. Mr. Michael Carringer, 726 Lakeside Drive, Winter Springs, Florida: noted his support of this project. Tape 2/Side B Ms. Sandra Gomez, 509 Shane Circle, Winter Springs, Florida: spoke of her concern with the lack of trees and traffic problems. Ms. Jackie Parrilla, 707 Linden Drive, Winter Springs, Florida: did not address the City Commission, but Mayor Bush stated, "Jackie [Parrilla] is opposed." Mr. Richard Gennell, 706 Meadowbrook Drive, Winter Springs, Florida: asked that the City Commission support the proposed Transmittal. Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item. CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - FEBRUARY 13,2006 PAGE 8 OF 31 Ms. Furman stated, "First thing, I want to do is to disclose that I have had communication with Commissioner [Sally] McGinnis; I believe Commissioner [Donald A.] Gilmore and I spoke on the phone. Mayor, you and I spoke on the phone. Commissioner Blake, I have also spoken to you. I just wanted to put that out there. I also wanted to remind everyone, and I have got the name written doWfl here, I believe that Alisa Kaufman did a really good job of it, and that is that at this point, we are at a Transmittal Hearing. We are asking to Transmit a Comprehensive Plan Amendment that Amends your Comprehensive Plan for this property from 'Industrial' to 'Medium Density Residential'. So, things such as Mr. Clayton, he hasn't seen amenities. Well, we have got a Concept Plan, where we're going to include significant amounts of amenities - I don't know how he hasn't seen those things, maybe because there's been a serious lack of communication. We've tried to respond to things; we held a Community meeting; we informed the people at that time of our Concept Plan. Some of those things are a bit premature at this point. We would be happy to put doWfl all of our promises in the form of a Developer's Agreement. We can work on that between now and Adoption. But, again, this is a Transmittal for the DCA [Department of Community Affairs] to take a look at this and to comment on it. Your Vote tonight does not change your adopted Comprehensive Plan. It simply sends this to the DCA [Department of Community Affairs] so they can Transmit for comment. I appreciate, Mayor, you reading the letter from Seminole County into the Record. I also wanted to read a letter from Mr. Dittmer, who we all know is the Property OWfler; and again, as Alisa [Kaufman] pointed out, we have a willing seller and so any discussions tonight about the traffic that is going to be produced; the impacts this is going to have; a lot of the people in our position are showing that as opposed to this land staying the same. Is there going to be more traffic then there being nothing here? Yes. The question that is before you is 'Is there going to be more traffic here as 'Residential' then there would be as 'Industrial'? Mr. Dittmer is ready to sell this property. And, let me just read his letter." Ms. Furman read the letter from Mr. Walt Dittmer. Ms. Furman then said, "I wanted to introduce you to my client and that is the Keewin Real Property Company. They have developed over 12,000 residential units, developed and marketed, since 1978. They are high quality Developers. They are Developers and Acquisition Partners for Universal Studios, Rollins College, Winter Park Memorial Hospital, and Valencia Community College - as a member of the Central Florida Community, we know the high standards that these Colleges and businesses would hold someone that they go into a partnership to. Some of the communities, and I've mentioned these before, so people could go check them out - Windsong in Winter Park; the Landmark, which is a condominium project, also in Winter Park. CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - FEBRUARY 13,2006 PAGE 9 OF 31 I see that there are a few main concerns when you hear people talk about what they're concerned about in this. And, I think those can be nailed down to traffic, schools, and impact on property values. As far as traffic goes, I saw today, for the first time, the handout that your City Engineer prepared, and handed out, I have not seen that before, but I think that it very clearly demonstrates what we've tried to say. Which is, 'A 'Residential' Land-Use will not have the same traffic impacts both in daily trips, which is the number over the entire day of trips that will be produced; nor does it have the same a.m. and p.m. peak hour; which is really when you are trying to get to work or get home and when you get the most frustrated about being in traffic. That's when 'Industrial' shows, if you will see his Industrial Park numbers were almost double the a.m. peak hour as the 'Residential' would be. Another distinguishing factor in traffic is the type of traffic. 'Residential' obviously brings the type of cars that we all drive, whereas, 'Industrial' will bring in who knows what, it could be dump trucks, it could be delivery trucks, it could be 18-wheelers. And, I don't understand the belief that 'Residential' will cut through on Sheoah [Boulevard], but 'Industrial' won't. I don't exactly understand that. And, those are the kinds of things that we can look for and try to work with the Highlands in traffic reduction of cut- through. But, we have not gotten to that point. We haven't even been able to Transmit this to the DCA [Department of Community Affairs]. Your Staff Report says that there is capacity to handle this project on Shepard Road. We'll make whatever necessary improvements there needs to be made to that. Once this is transmitted to FDOT [Florida Department of Transportation], we'll have an opportunity to comment on it. And, I also think importantly, we have gone to the CRA [Community Redevelopment Agency] to talk to them and they said that Florida Avenue would be upgraded if this was approved as a 'Residential' use." Ms. Furman then spoke regarding Mr. Kosmac's comments and said, "As he mentioned, we have agreed to give one thousand two hundred and thirty-five dollars ($1,235.00) per unit on top of the Impact Fee. The Impact Fees for this is six hundred and thirty-nine dollars ($639.00). When he was talking about the seventy-five (75), the number of seventy-five (75) students using, I believe he used our 330 or 334 number. Again, that is our proposed number, we think we can develop. We have done a further Concept Plan where it brings us down to 317. It is a moving target right now. But, his impact numbers are based on a generation rate - for this type of use. And, if the project were to have around 330 units, as he said it would be about four hundred thousand dollars ($400,000.00) that we would give in addition to our Impact Fees. We would give those at the issuance of the first building permit. CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - FEBRUARY 13,2006 PAGE 10 OF 31 There has been some talk about the school gets the money after the need is there. Well, it is going to take us approximately two (2) years to actually, once we pull a Building Permit, to build this out. So, the School Board would have use of that money and of our additional Impact Fees, which actually then adds up being more around a six hundred thousand dollar ($600,000.00) figure. To do with how the School Board sees fit, whether it's purchasing property for additional schools, or whatever, but that they would have the use of that money. The impact on property values seems to be very important, especially to the Wildwood residents. They believe, and I think that they're right, that the 'Industrial' use will continue to depress their values. The allegations that this is low income is completely ludicrous. The people that are developing this are not in the business of developing low income property. And, if there have been any allegations that the price has been one thing and then it has been another and then it has been another, I'll take some of the blame for that. Putting a price on these units is very difficult at this time. We don't know what is going to be in the future. And, you know, we've said that there - it would be an average of two [hundred] twenty-five [thousand dollars] ($225,000.00), yes, there may be a smaller unit that is two hundred [thousand dollars] ($200,000.00). There may be some units that are two [hundred] seventy-five [thousand dollars] ($275,00) or higher than that. So, I mean we can't make any promises on what we're going to sell these for. But they are certainly not low income houses. And if they were low income, we would have actually - you have to - apply to get funds to build the, because nobody can afford to build low income anymore. Some facts about the Wildwood property values - over the last two (2) years, the average sales price for Wildwood Condominiums has been one hundred and twelve thousand dollars ($112,000.00) and a hundred thousand dollars ($100,000.00); and, for their Wildwood Single Family Homes, have been at - one hundred and forty thousand dollars ($140,000.00). So, we believe that these high end, two-car garage, high quality townhouses, are going to help the values in Wildwood; certainly more than use of an 'Industrial' property. Recreational amenities - the idea that - people that live in our community aren't going to use the pool and the cabana and the park that are right outside their door - in our latest rendition of our Concept Plan, we're at almost fifty percent (50%) open face with pet park, outdoor barbeques, picnic areas. We have got jogging trails; fitness courses; gazebo in a lakeside park. The allegation that if you lived with brand new amenities that you would get in your car and drive a couple of miles to go use someone else's stuff, I cannot comprehend. We have talked about making this a gated community - we are going to provide recreational amenities and this is going, the plan is going to come before you all again. And, you can make sure that we do that to your liking. CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - FEBRUAR Y 13,2006 PAGE II OF 31 As far as, the loss of, just the fact that it is 'Industrial' property and Mr. Moretti spoke to the fact that he has a concern that, I mean certainly he is a Property Owner, and he has a bundle of rights that go with his property and his ability to use that property and by changing our Land-Use, our designation - from 'Industrial' to 'Residential' doesn't affect his use of property. We have tried to work with Mr. Moretti to give him and these assurances. I understand that he's concerned about noise. Well, you all have a Noise Ordinance and if that Noise Ordinance is being broken - we can't promise him that no one will have a concern with them. But, what we can say is that your Code and your Comp [Comprehensive] Plan do not impose on him any greater burden for set-backs or buffers or anything like that. In addition, on our property what has been planned and what's been in the works for a while - that I could just come up here and all of a sudden - change the Comp [Comprehensive] Plan." Ms. Furman continued, "We have been talking to this City to see what we can create that is compatible both to the side that's on Wildwood and the side that is on these 'Industrial' uses. And, one of the things that we have come up with that we would agree to put a six foot (6') high wall on top of a five foot (5') high berm. It would have trees, shrubbery, and most important to all trees and shrubs, some sort of - we'd have irrigation. So that on his side, we would buffer our 'Residential' Use. Because again, we are going to be selling these properties. And we do not want our potential buyers to come and tour it and look over and see some of those properties. So we will make these compatible. We have also agreed that in our Covenant, Conditions and Restrictions, commonly known as the CCR's, we will include a disclosure of the adjacent 'Commercial' and 'Industrial' uses so that our residents understand what they are moving in next to. Another property is the commonly known as the Elsea property, which is the property to the south. At the Planning and Zoning Meeting, a representative of the Elsea property opposed this for reasons of compatibility and we offer to bring that property into our development and we currently have a pending contract on that piece of property. City Staff has asked the Developer today if we'd agree to also Transmit that along with this. And, we are okay with doing that. And, that really wraps up how I wanted to respond to some of the things. I appreciate your time and patience. I know that many of you were here also on Monday [Tuesday, February 7, 2006] night when we tried to hold the Community meeting that we thought the Highlands wanted. I contacted the Highlands in January and asked them if I could use their meeting space to make it more convenient for the Highlands and I was told that they no available meeting space in the evenings or on the weekends until the end of February. So, that's when I then contacted the City and asked to use this." Discussion. Commissioner McGinnis asked the Developer, "What kind of a commitment would you be willing to make for road improvements and enhancements if in fact once this goes for Transmittal it is determined by the State but that is necessary." CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - FEBRUARY 13,2006 PAGE 12 OF 31 Ms. Furman said, "I don't know exactly how to answer that as far as what would we commit to - certainly, we have considered that we would have to do additional improvements to turn lanes, maybe some types of intersection improvements - certainly, to go forward once we have more in depth traffic analysis we will know what's required to get to adequate levels of service. So if you are asking for specific improvements, we can take those under consideration..." Commissioner McGinnis stated, ".. . But it is on the Table?" Ms. Furman stated, "Yes." Ms. Furman stated, "It is not just on the Table. We expect to do some type of improvements." Commissioner McGinnis added, "And, of course, there has been no Traffic Study done yet anyway. That will be done." Furthermore, Commissioner McGinnis stated, "The buffer between your proposed property and the rest of the 'Industrial' that fronts [Highway] 17-92..." Ms. Furman stated, "... Between our property - to the west, that would be a six foot (6') high wall on top of a five foot (5') high berm that would have landscape and shrubs that would be irrigated. " Commissioner McGinnis said, "There was a Member here earlier from the P and Z Board [Planning And Zoning Board/Local Planning Agency] who had suggested that perhaps it is time for a new Visioning Workshop within the City which would help determine in fact if we do need 'Industrial'. Although I too have been speaking to people about this for several weeks, people are just stunned that 'Residential' would lower their property values. There is a recorder here tonight, I am sure she has never been to a Commission Meeting where people are fighting for 'Industrial'." Discussion. Tape 3/Side A Ms. Cindy Gennell, 706 Meadowbrook Drive, Winter Springs, Florida: spoke of the history of the property owned by Mr. Walt Dittmer. Deputy Mayor Blake said, "I just want to point out all these issues and make sure that we know that all we are doing is Transmitting a Comp [Comprehensive] Plan Amendment tonight - we are not doing a Rezoning, we are not approving a Site Plan, we are not approving a Development or a Density; or pools or parks or anything else." Commissioner McGinnis said, "As we progress through this, that at one point we have a Charette for the people in the Highlands and Wildwood as we do begin to talk about Site Plans. We have done that with other projects. I think this is definitely something we should do." CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - FEBRUARY 13, 2006 PAGE 13 OF 31 Commissioner Gilmore said, "Traffic we have heard a lot of and traffic is going to be an issue no matter what is done out there, If it stays like it is traffic five (5) years from now is still going to be a problem. And I think it is up to the City, the City Staff, and the County to work things out so that it's acceptable. Furthermore, Commissioner Gilmore added, Schools is a major problem. I just fear that we are adding more portables and this is just a drop in the bucket. As near as I can see it is going to keep getting worse. Whether we improve this or not, it's not going to have any affect on that. We need more schools, probably smaller schools, neighborhood schools. But that is not our issue. 'Industrial' adjacent to Wildwood which Mr. Moretti brought up. He and I have talked several times about it and I well understand it. The problem here is, it doesn't matter if this stays 'Industrial', you are going still have 'Industrial' next to 'Residential'." Commissioner Joanne M. Krebs asked Manager McLemore, "Did anybody else get this letter that was from Ross Stafford Bumaman - February 6, 2006?" Commissioner Krebs then said, "City Manager, did you read the chronological - is it right?" Manager McLemore stated, "There are issues in there I think that need to be addressed, but I think they are entirely manageable." Commissioner Krebs added, "Because it did - talk about Mr. Dittmer's reasons for doing what he did. That came up and I read this and it sounded pretty logical, but I don't know if it was or not. So, I was just asking if it was fairly accurate?" Manager McLemore said, "Some of the things we agree with some of the things we don't." Commissioner Krebs said that regarding the "Existing lake on the property providing adequate outfall for the stormwater..." Ms. Furman stated, "... That is one of the things in Mr. Bumaman ... that was incorrect and we disagree with." Ms. Furman added, "In the Staff Report there is a thing on topography, but we are not doing stormwater into Boat Lake." Discussion. "I WANT TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION TO TRANSMIT THIS TO DCA [DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY AFFAIRS] FOR CONSIDERATION AND REVIEW. I WANT TO SLIGHTLY AMEND THE APPICATION THOUGH THAT WAS ORIGINALLY PRESENTED TO INCLUDE THE ELSEA PROPERTY ON FLORIDA AVENUE AS PART OF THE SUBMITTAL." MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE. ATTORNEY GARGANESE STATED, "THAT PROPERTY WASN'T NOTICED - IT IS NOT EVEN PART OF THE APPLICATION, IT WASN'T PART OF THE LPA (LOCAL PLANNING AGENCY) HEARINGS. SO, WE'RE NOT GOING TO AMEND IT WITHOUT AMENDING THE ADVERTISEMENT." CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - FEBRUARY 13, 2006 PAGB 14 OF 31 ATTORNEY GARGANESE THEN SAID, "I THOUGHT YOU WERE GOING TO AMEND THAT APPLICATION AND TRANSMIT IT. YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ON THAT ADDITIONAL PROPERTY, AFTER PUBLIC NOTICE." DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE THEN ASKED ABOUT THE SIZE OF THAT PROPERTY, TO WHICH MS. FURMAN STATED, "IT'S LESS THAN TEN (10) - WE'D BE HAPPY TO DO A SMALL-SCALE." "THEN THE MOTION IS TO TRANSMIT AS APPLIED FOR." MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MILLER. DISCUSSION. MANAGER McLEMORE COMMENTED, "I UNDERSTAND THAT'S WITH THE CONFIRMATION THAT THEY WILL DO THE SMALL SCALE TO ADD THAT LATER, IS THAT WHAT I AM HEARING?" DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE REMARKED, "YES." VOTE: DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE: AYE COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE COMMISSIONER KREBS: NAY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE MOTION CARRIED. Mayor Bush called a Recess at 10:07 p.m. Mayor Bush called the Meeting back to Order at 10:22 p.m. .:..:. AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING AGENDA ITEMS WERE DISCUSSED IN THE ORDER AS DOCUMENTED. .:..:. PUBLIC HEARINGS AGENDA PUBLIC HEARINGS 200. Community Development Department - Planning Division Requests The City Commission Hold A Public Hearing For The Aesthetic Review For Harbor Winds, A 62-Unit Town House Development, Located On The North Side Of SR (State Road) 434 Immediately East Of Golf Terrace Apartments, And Consider An Associated Amendment To The Development Agreement. Ms. Sahlstrom presented this Agenda Item. Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item. CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - FEBRUARY 13,2006 PAGE 15 OF 31 Ms. Helga Schwarz, 720 Galloway Court, Winter Springs, Florida: asked about setbacks and spoke of trucks from the project turning left on Timberlane Trail and potential problems near Timberlane Trail. Deputy Mayor Blake returned to the Commission Chambers at 10:28 p.m. Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item. "I WILL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE AESTHETIC REVIEW AND THE FIRST AMENDMENT TO THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE. DISCUSSION. VOTE: COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE: AYE COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE MOTION CARRIED. PUBLIC HEARINGS 202. Office Of The City Manager Requesting The City Commission To Approve Second Reading Of Ordinance Number 2006-01 Adopting The Terms Of A Solid Waste Agreement With Waste Pro Of Florida, Inc. And To Adopt A Revised Rate Resolution (Number 2006-08) To Reflect Minor Changes To The Customer Rate Tables. Attorney Garganese read the Ordinance by "Title" only, and stated, "In the Solid Waste Franchise Agreement, Section '2.18' 'CPI', the language 'south, population less than 50,000' should have been stricken, and Staff is recommending that that language be stricken as part of the approval of this Contract." Mr. Kevin Smith, Director, General Services Department spoke on this Agenda Item and spoke of minor changes; to which Mr. Smith explained, "Two (2) changes that affect the Rate Resolution do not affect the actual rates, only the language of the Rate Resolution. Again most ofthe changes are minor, but I do want to point out and address those two (2) changes I just mentioned. CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - FEBRUARY 13,2006 PAGE 160F31 The first being as we talked about previously, using the semi automated system, we will provide each citizen with a ninety-six (96) gallon 'Toter' or roll-out 'Cart' - we will stay with that. We will also offer a sixty-four (64) gallon 'Cart' to those citizens that feel like the ninety-six (96) gallon 'Cart' may be too large or too cumbersome for their garage or yard or what not, so the standard 'Cart' if you will, will be the ninety-six (96) gallon option, with a sixty-four (64) gallon 'Cart' as a second or an alternative - no difference in price by the way to the citizens or to our payment to Waste Pro. As a result of that, there was some language in the Rate Resolution, a title, I had previously titled a line - ninety- six (96) gallon 'Cart'. I just removed the ninety-six (96) gallon and simply said 'Cart'." Discussion ensued on Special pickup language and bonafide needs. Tape 3/Side B Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item. Mr. Jack Graham, 667 Nighthawk Circle, Winter Springs, Florida: spoke of neighbors special needs for refuse assistance. With discussion on special needs, Mr. Smith explained, "We have information packets and we'll provide on our Website. Information is going out in the Newsletter." Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item. Commissioner Krebs inquired, "The fact that we do already provide that service - do we have names of those people of who we provide that service for, can we get that from our current provider?" Commissioner Krebs added, "We could ask for it, and then we could possibly notify them by - a special mailing - or whatever, to let them know directly how to go about.. ." Mayor Bush stated, "... Good idea." Mr. Smith remarked, "We will certainly ask." "I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION - TO APPROVE THE SECOND READING OF ORDINANCE 2006-01 MAKING MINOR REVISIONS TO THE SOLID WASTE CONTRACT WITH WASTE PRO OF FLORIDA, INC." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER KREBS. MAYOR BUSH SAID, "SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER GILMORE." DISCUSSION. DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE REFERENCED "'4.10' - 'TIRE COLLECTION' AND '4.11' 'SPECIAL PICKUP SERVICES'." MR. SMITH SPOKE OF CONFLICTS AND SAID, "YOU ARE CORRECT, AND WE WILL CORRECT THAT BEFORE FINALIZATION OF SIGNATURES." DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE ADDED, "I DON'T CARE IF YOU PUT IN THERE, OVER FOUR (4) PER YEAR OR SOMETHING." CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - FEBRUARY 13, 2006 PAGE 17 OF 31 VOTE: DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE: AYE COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE MOTION CARRIED. Attorney Garganese then said, "We need to address the - amendment to Tables II and V - they're both - conforming amendments to the tables, based on the revised Solid Waste Franchise Agreement." Attorney Garganese added, "I would ask the Commission to just approve the revised Tables II and V and authorize the Mayor just to sign a very simple Resolution which approves these two (2) Tables." "I MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT RESOLUTION 2006-08 MAKING MINOR CHANGES TO THE SOLID WASTE - RESOLUTION - TABLES II AND V, AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR TO SIGN A SIMPLE RESOLUTION." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER KREBS. DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE INQUIRED, "DOES THAT INCORPORATE THE CHANGES AGREED ON BY THE PREVIOUS ACTION ITEM?" COMMISSIONER KREBS STATED "ABSOLUTELY." SECONDED. DISCUSSION. ATTORNEY GARGANESE NOTED, "YES, WE NEED TO DO A CONFORMING AMENDMENT THERE AS WELL." VOTE: COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE: AYE COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE MOTION CARRIED. PUBLIC HEARINGS 203. Community Development Department - Planning Division Requests That The Commission Hold A Public Hearing For The Aesthetic Review Resubmittal Of The O-Mei Monument Sign Located At 113 SR (State Road) 434 Of The Moss Road International Office Complex. Ms. Sahlstrom presented her opening remarks related to this Agenda Item. Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item. No one spoke. CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - FEBRUARY 13,2006 PAGE 18 OF 31 Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item. "I WILL MOVE THAT WE APPROVE ITEM '203'." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. MAYOR BUSH NOTED, "SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER GILMORE." DISCUSSION. VOTE: COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE: AYE COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE MOTION CARRIED. REGULAR AGENDA REGULAR 300. Not Used REGULAR 301. Office Of The City Manager Requesting The City Commission To Authorize The City Manager To Enter Into An Agreement With The National Golf Foundation To Perform A Feasibility Study Related To The City's Consideration Of Acquiring The Winter Springs Golf Course. Discussion. "I MAKE A MOTION WE AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO AGREEMENT WITH NATIONAL GOLF FOUNDATION TO PERFORM A FEASIBILITY STUDY ON ACQUIRING THE WINTER SPRINGS GOLF COURSE." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER GILMORE. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. COMMISSIONER GILMORE ADDED, "AND APPROPRIATE THE MONEY FROM THE GENERAL FUND RESERVES." DISCUSSION. VOTE: DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE: AYE COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE MOTION CARRIED. CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - FEBRUARY 13,2006 PAGE 19 OF 31 REGULAR 302. Office Of The City Clerk Requests That Commissioner Joanne M. Krebs Make An Appointment To The Beautification Of Winter Springs Board. COMMISSIONER KREBS STATED, "I WOULD LIKE TO RECOMMEND DENISE RITCHEY FOR MY APPOINTMENT TO THE BOWS [BEAUTIFICATION OF WINTER SPRINGS BOARD] BOARD." MOTION. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. DISCUSSION. VOTE: COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE DEPUTYMAYORBLAKE: AYE COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE MOTION CARRIED. REGULAR 304. Parks And Recreation Department Requesting City Commission Approval Of Resolution Number 2006-11 That Establishes A Policy For The Use Of The Central Winds Park Expansion Area. Mr. Chuck Pula, Director, Parks and Recreation Department addressed the City Commission on this Agenda Item. Commissioner Miller left the Commission Chambers at 11:01 p.m. "I MOVE WE APPROVE RESOLUTION 2006-11, WHICH ESTABLISHES POLICY FOR THE CENTRAL WINDS PARK EXPANSION." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER GILMORE. DISCUSSION. VOTE: COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE: AYE COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE (VOICE VOTE AUDIBLE TO MEMBERS OF THE CITY COMMISSION, AND THE CITY CLERK) MOTION CARRIED. CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - FEBRUARY 13,2006 PAGE 20 OF 31 REGULAR 305. Not Used REGULAR 306. Parks And Recreation Department Requesting Consideration Of A Monthly Senior Citizen Award Program And If Approved A Supplemental Appropriation From General Fund Reser/es Of $3,600.00 For Six (6) Months Of This FY (Fiscal Year). Commissioner Miller returned to the Dais at 11 :06 p. m. Discussion ensued with Mr. Pula. "MOTION TO EXTEND COMMISSIONER KREBS. DISCUSSION. THIRTY (30) MINUTES." MOTION BY SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE. VOTE: COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE: AYE MOTION CARRIED. With further discussion, Commissioner Krebs asked where the Awards would be placed; Commissioner McGinnis said more details were needed; and Mayor Bush asked where they would be displayed. Tape 4/Side A Deputy Mayor Blake stated, "I think if Chuck [PulaJ can find a way to - in terms of the branding stuff, that nice professional looking stuff, you would be surprised what you can get out there, even from High School kids - but develop a way to make - have a contest, a thousand dollar ($1,000.00J reward for Winter Springs residents to design... " Mayor Bush said, "...Let's give Chuck [PulaJ an opportunity to think about this and come back - at the next Meeting with some alternatives, everybody in agreement with that?" Commissioner Krebs stated, "I agree." Commissioner McGinnis remarked, "Yes." No objections were noted. CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - FEBRUARY 13,2006 PAGE 21 OF 31 REGULAR 307. Not Used REGULAR 308. Office Of The City Manager Requesting The City Commission To Set A Date For The Second Winter Springs/Oviedo Meeting. With discussion on the availability of the City Commission, Mayor Bush stated, "How about the 20th [of March]? Everybody?" Commissioner McGinnis stated, "Good." No objections were noted for this date. Mayor Bush then stated, "The 3rd and 4th [of April, 2006] is okay with everybody, right?" Commissioner McGinnis said, "Yes." No objections were noted for these dates either. CONSENT AGENDA CONSENT 400. Community Development Department - Urban Beautification Services Division Requesting Authorization To Revise The Baseline City Standard Streetlight Rate For 2006 From $12.14 To $13.29 Per Streetlight. No discussion. CONSENT 401. Community Development Department - Urban Beautification Services Division Requesting Authorization To Increase The Scope Of Work For The SR (State Road) 434 Landscape Maintenance Contract Due To The Completion Of The Village Walk Project. Commissioner Gilmore asked Mr. Steve Richart, Urban Beautification Division Services Manager, Community Development Department, "Where did you come up with these numbers for these tables?" With discussion on where the information was located, Commissioner Gilmore added, "We don't have that sheet." CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - FEBRUARY 13,2006 PAGE220F31 Deputy Mayor remarked '" 40 l' is the additional landscape work - Village Walk area of [State Road] 434, is it done? Is the landscaping complete out there?" Mr. Richart noted, "The access management project was signed off on January 16th..." Deputy Mayor Blake then said, "... So, all the landscaping I see out there in that corridor is what is going to be provided?" Mr. Richart stated, "Yes." Deputy Mayor Blake commented to Manager McLemore, "We need to go take a ride." Deputy Mayor Blake added, "And I would like to take out the drawings that show us what we are getting." With discussion, Commissioner McGinnis said, "Now I think it would be nice when this is totally completed, if we could have some kind ofa Ceremony." .:..:. AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING CONSENT AGENDA ITEM WAS DISCUSSED SEP ARA TEL Y WITH A VOTE, FOLLOWED BY THE REST OF THE CONSENT AGENDA, AS DOCUMENTED. .:. .:. CONSENT AGENDA CONSENT 402. Office Of The City Attorney Requests The City Commission Consider And Approve Transportation Disadvantae:ed Services Ae:reement Second Addendum On First Reading. Discussion ensued on whether this Agenda Item should be on the Consent Agenda. "TABLE TO THE NEXT MEETING." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MILLER. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. DISCUSSION. VOTE: COMMISSIONER GILMORE COMMISSIONER McGINNIS COMMISSIONER KREBS COMMISSIONER MILLER DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE MOTION CARRIED. Deputy Mayor Blake added, "It would be interesting to know if we looked at any other providers. " CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - FEBRUARY 13,2006 PAGE230F31 CONSENT AGENDA CONSENT 403. Public Works Department Requesting Authorization For ArchitecturallEngineering Construction Administration Services With Starmer Ranaldi Planning And Architecture Inc. For The Utility/Public Works Compound Construction. Brief discussion. CONSENT 404. Public Works Department - Utility Department Requesting Approval For A Supplemental Appropriation From The Utility Enterprise Fund And Change Order Number 1 For A Second Storage Building For The Utility/Public Works Facility Project. There was no discussion on this Agenda Item. CONSENT 405. Public Works Department Requesting Authorization To Purchase One (1) Medium Dump Truck By Piggybacking Off Of Florida Sheriff's Association Bid [Number] 04-12-0823. This Agenda Item was not discussed. CONSENT 406. Utility Department Requesting Approval To Purchase [One] (1) Ford F-550 (17,500 Lb. GVWR Cab And Chassis, 4x2) By Piggybacking Off Of Florida Sheriff's Association Bid Number 04-12-0824 With Don Reid Ford. No discussion. CONSENT 407. Public Works Department Requesting Authorization To Purchase One (1) 15 Foot Flex-Wing Mower By Piggybacking Off Of State Road Number 765 900P. There was no discussion on this Agenda Item. ,..=----------"~,,~----~.._"'~-,.,,.----"'"""-'-_...............~,,~.,.'-".~...<>""..."'". ,---..-., '" ~'--'-"'_.,-~........_-- ..- CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - FEBRUARY 13,2006 PAGE240F31 CONSENT 408. Public Works Department Requesting Authorization To Purchase One (1) Brushffree Chipper By Piggybacking Off Of Broward County, Florida Bid Number CI05005FF. This Agenda Item was not discussed. CONSENT 409. Public Works Department Requesting Authorization To Purchase One (1) Medium Dump Truck By Piggybacking Off Of Florida Sheriff's Association Bid Number 04-12-0824. No discussion. CONSENT 410. Information Services Department Requests Authorization For The City Manager To Contract With And Pay Paul Consulting Incorporated (PCI) For Scanning Of Community Development Large Format Documents In The Amount Of $33,370.00. With discussion, Deputy Mayor Blake pointed to a document on the screen and said to Ms. Joanne Dalka, Director, Information Services Department, "The quality is really poor. Why can't we have higher quality scanned documents in our system, or even better, why can't we have documents that are created, say in Word™, created electronically into PDFTM format - I understand it wouldn't then have the handwritten stuff on it, but it would be a much cleaner, easier to read, better archived copy for us to refer back to?" Ms. Dalka spoke of the state mandated 300 dpi." Commissioner McGinnis left the dais at approximately 11:50 p.m. Deputy Mayor Blake noted, "It doesn't look like 300 dpi though." Commissioner Krebs commented, "It looks like a fax copy." Ms. Dalka said, "We can work on that. There are different settings on the scanner, that we can adjust." Deputy Mayor Blake added, "These are graphics resolutions - if we can get away from those and have it actually an OCR type PDFTM, for one thing, it is just easier to read and you can search through it more easily." Ms. Dalka then said, "We can definitely take a look at this, this readjustment of settings." CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - FEBRUARY 13,2006 PAGE 25 OF 31 CONSENT 411. Information Services Department Requests Additional Appropriation In The Amount Of $3,500.00 To Replace The AlC Unit In Telephone Room At Police Department. This Agenda Item was not discussed. CONSENT 412. Office Of The City Clerk Requesting Approval Of The January 23, 2006 Regular City Commission Meeting Minutes. No discussion. .:..:. AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING VOTE WAS FOR THE CONSENT AGENDA MINUS CONSENT AGENDA ITEM "402" WHICH WAS VOTED ON PREVIOUSLY, AS AN INDIVIDUAL ITEM. .:..:. Mayor Bush stated, "Can we have a Motion on the Consent Agenda?" "SO MOVED." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MILLER. MAYOR BUSH STATED, "SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BLAKE." DISCUSSION. VOTE: COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE (VOICE VOTE AUDIBLE TO MEMBERS OF THE CITY COMMISSION, AND THE CITY CLERK) COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE: AYE COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE MOTION CARRIED. Commissioner McGinnis returned to the dais at 11:52 p.m. INFORMATIONAL AGENDA INFORMATIONAL 500. Community Development Department Advising The City Commission Of The Status Of Various Current Planning Projects. No discussion. CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - FEBRUARY 13,2006 PAGE 26 OF 31 INFORMATIONAL 501. Parks And Recreation Department Notifying The City Commission Of The Status Of The Florida Recreational Development Assistance Program Grant Regarding Trotwood Park. Brief discussion. INFORMATIONAL 502. Parks And Recreation Department Wishes To Inform The City Commission That The Date Of The Easter Egg Hunt Is Changed From April 8, 2006 To April 15, 2006. No discussion. INFORMATIONAL 503. Not Used INFORMATIONAL 504. Public Works Department - Capital Projects Coordinator Providing The City Commission With Information On Procurement Of Professional Services. There was no discussion on this Agenda Item. INFORMATIONAL 505. Parks And Recreation Department Wishes To Further Inform The City Commission Regarding The Winter Springs Celebration Of Spring "Spring Festival". No discussion. INFORMATIONAL 506. Police Department Informing The Commission Of Its Application For State Of Florida Grant Assistance, Through The Florida Emergency Management Preparedness And Assistance Trust Fund. This Agenda Item was not discussed. CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - FEBRUARY 13,2006 PAGE 27 OF 31 "MOTION TO APPROVE." MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MILLER. DISCUSSION. VOTE: COMMISSIONER GILMORE DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE COMMISSIONER KREBS COMMISSIONER McGINNIS COMMISSIONER MILLER MOTION CARRIED. REPORTS REPORTS 600. Office Of The City Attorney - Anthony A. Garganese, Esquire No Report. REPORTS 601. Office Of The City Manager - Ronald W. McLemore Manager McLemore stated, "I don't think we have done all we can do, for this issue on the Transmittal - If you want to spend money on Public Relations, here is a place to spend it. One, I think we ought to put out a special letter to those people explaining what you've done and why you did it." Manager McLemore added, "I think we should have a special letter in our Newsletter explaining what happened here tonight and what your thought process was." Furthermore, Manager McLemore said, "A factual source of information - we need to put it out. We have done it before as a letter from the Mayor." Deputy Mayor Blake stated, "I agree." Secondly, Manager McLemore said, "I strongly feel that we should go through the community planning - Charette process. I think we ought to have some dialogue with the Developer, see if we can do this; get people involved in this process and potentially come back with a set of recommendations that will diffuse the entire situation." Commissioner McGinnis suggested, "Could we have a letter from the Mayor then, to go out. I like that better than putting it in the Newsletter." Mayor Bush added, "The Manager has asked for two (2) things here, the letter and a Charette." Commissioner McGinnis stated, "Both." Discussion. CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - FEBRUARY 13,2006 PAGE 28 OF 31 "I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE AUTHORIZE THE MAYOR TO DRAFT A LETTER - THE CITY MANAGER AND THE MAYOR WILL HAVE FINAL SAY WHAT GOES IN THE LETTER." MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE. MAYOR BUSH STATED, "SECOND BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS." DISCUSSION. VOTE: DEPUTY MAYOR BLAKE: AYE COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE MOTION CARRIED. With discussion on a Meeting to discuss the Rural Lands issue, Mayor Bush summarized the Commission's agreement to meet as, "Wednesday, February 22nd, [2006} - 7:30 [p.m.}." Regarding whether the Consultant's would also be available on this date, Mayor Bush said to Manager McLemore, "If they can't, let us know, we will pick another." Manager McLemore then said, "Do you want a Special Meeting or a Workshop?" Manager McLemore stated, "Special Meeting." Mayor Bush then noted, "Special Meeting then on that date, February 2rd, [2006}. " REPORTS 602. Office Of The City Clerk - Andrea Lorenzo-Luaces, CMC City Clerk Andrea Lorenzo-Luaces, CMC briefly mentioned the Special Meeting scheduled for next Monday, February 20,2006. REPORTS 603. Commission Seat Three - Donald A. Gilmore Commissioner Gilmore stated that the "Tuscawilla Homeowner's Association would like to install two (2) flagpoles at the main entrance to Tuscawilla, behind the signage, and they are paying for this." Commissioner Gilmore then inquired, "Can this Commission authorize them to proceed with the installation of two (2) flagpoles, and lights?" Attorney Garganese stated, "I don't know without pulling the Easement document." With discussion, Manager McLemore suggested, "I think we should Agenda this for the next Meeting..." Commissioner McGinnis said, "...Yes..." Manager McLemore added, " .. . So we can do a proper analysis." Commissioner Gilmore remarked, "Will you Agenda it then?" No objection was noted. CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - FEBRUARY 13,2006 PAGE 29 OF 31 REPORTS 604. Commission Seat Four - Sally McGinnis Commissioner McGinnis asked about the status of George Street; and parking, and sidewalks. Brief discussion. Commissioner McGinnis mentioned she had a Valentine for everyone and would bring it next week. Commissioner McGinnis mentioned that George Columbo's son won "The award with the Philharmonic for the 'Young Composer' Award." Mayor Bush said "Andrea [Lorenzo-Luaces] would you get a hold of the Columbo's" on this matter? City Clerk Lorenzo-Luaces acknowledged that she would. REPORTS 605. Commission Seat Five - Joanne M. Krebs Commissioner Krebs mentioned that she received a telephone call from Mr. John Rickards regarding Mayor Bush and 'No Soliciting' signsfor Oak Forest. With discussion on this issue, Mayor Bush stated, "Why don't we ask Mr. McLemore to write him a letter..." Commissioner Krebs noted, "...Let the Homeowner's know what we can and what we can't do, and if we can't put signs out on - right-of-way - there is no doubt about that, then we don't do it." Mayor Bush then said, "Does the Commission agree that Mr. McLemore would write him a letter to respond to this?" Commissioner Krebs stated, "1 am fine with that." No objections were voiced. Tape 4/Side B Commissioner Krebs spoke of taking painting lessons in Casselberry and explained, "I spoke with Linda Moore, who is the Casselberry Projects Coordinator for Parks and Recreation, and they have a really, really good program, and Ron [McLemore], I would like to get with you and go over that program and maybe - see about bringing that to the Commission as an Item or something like that, because I just really think we should broaden our Arts in the City here." Manager McLemore said, "Okay." Commissioner Krebs remarked about the "Issue with the forty-seven (47) acres - I feel like we had a plan to follow, which is one of reasons I voted 'No', and I just feel like in the future - maybe we need to look at all areas in the City - I think somebody brought it up, I think Commissioner McGinnis you may have even said something. . . " Commissioner McGinnis stated, "... Visioning. . ." Commissioner Krebs remarked, " .. . Yes, Visioning on Future Land-Use in all areas of this City that might possibly need to be changed." CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - FEBRUARY 13,2006 PAGE 30 OF 31 Discussion. With further discussion on the "Arts" issue, Commissioner McGinnis spoke of the City of Casselberry having a Senior Citizens Advisory Board. Commissioner Krebs suggested that, "I would like support from the Commission to - maybe bring something back to the Commission to look at, for us to get involved in Parks and Rec{reationj." Mayor Bush then said, "Do the Commissioners have any objection to Commissioner Krebs doing as she said?" Commissioner McGinnis said, "Anything we do there is great." Mayor Bush summarized, "I don't think there is any objection for Mr. McLemore." Manager McLemore remarked, "My only issue is Advisory Board." Commissioner Krebs stated, "I am not talking about an Advisory Board." REPORTS 606. Office Of The Mayor - John F. Bush Mayor Bush commented that Manager McLemore had asked him to contact Winter Springs High School regarding the upcoming Spring Concert and to see if there might be a way to get participation from the School, however, Mayor Bush noted some conflicts, and stated, "My daughter is working on that." Mayor Bush asked about Signage problems on Tanglewood [Drive] mentioned by Alisa Kaufman and different street signs, especially by the Homeowners Association. Mr. Kip Lockcuff, P.E., Director, Public WorkslUtility Department mentioned, "Scott's [Dye, Customer Service Manager, Community Development Department] group is looking at it - with their 9-1-1." Mayor Bush said, "And those are HOA (Homeowner's Association) signs?" Mr. Lockcuff stated, "Yes." Mayor Bush added, "Does she know that - okay, I will say something to her." Mr. Lockcuff said, "I am going to write a letter to the HOA (Homeowner's Association) and tell them what they should be at least." Commissioner McGinnis suggested that "For the next Newsletter, ifthere could be a little blurb in there to remind people to be sure they have their house numbers visible. It's a real public safety issue." Manager McLemore stated, "Okay." CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - FEBRUARY 13,2006 PAGE 31 OF 31 Mayor Bush stated, "I am anxious for us to meet again with the Oviedo people - and hopefully by that time we will have got the Report from the East Rural study group and to try to start addressing this issue with the Black Hammock and get it behind us." Manager McLemore suggested, "I think we should invite them to the Workshop." Mayor Bush said, "Yes, definitely, and the County too, we should invite them. Does the Commission have any objection inviting the County and the Oviedo Council to our Workshop?" Commissioner McGinnis said, "No - everybody." There were no objections from the City Commission. REPORTS 607. Commission Seat One - Robert S. Miller No Report. REPORTS 608. Commission Seat Two/Deputy Mayor - Michael S. Blake Deputy Mayor Blake said now that we have the "East Rural Area Property Owner's Committee Report - which we will have a Special Meeting to discuss and formally adopt it, I will be making a request for us to do a Fiscal Impact Analysis to determine whether or not it makes economic sense for the City to be interested in annexing some, all, or some part, or all, or none of this area that we have defined in here; if it will develop as is agreed upon within the document." Deputy Mayor Blake then said, "I would ask the Commissioner's support on initiating that type of a Fiscal Analysis." Mayor Bush inquired, "Do we have Consensus on that?" Commissioner Krebs stated, "I agree." Commissioner Miller also said, "Yes." With no objections, Mayor Bush stated, "We do." ADJOURNMENT Mayor Bush adjourned the Regular Meeting at 12:25 a.m. R f CTFUL EMITTED: D LORENZO-LUACES, CMC crvt, LER.T( ~PP~ovG~4?- ~L JOHN~f MAYOR (; NOTE: These Minutes were approved at the February 27,2006 Regular City Commission Meeting.