HomeMy WebLinkAbout2009 07 07 Consent 201 Approval of May 12, 2009 Special MinutesCITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA
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BEAUTIFICATION OF WINTER SPRINGS BOARD
SPECIAL MEETING
MAY 12, 2009
CALL TO ORDER
The Beautification of Winter Springs Board Special Meeting of Tuesday, May 12, 2009,
was called to Order at 7:01 p.m. by Chairperson Kathryn Fairchild in the Commission
Chambers of the Municipal Building (City Hall, 1126 East State Road 434, Winter
Springs, Florida 32708).
Roll Call:
Chairperson Kathryn Fairchild, present
Vice Chairperson Cara Lynn Roesner, present
Board Member Roberto Carlos Acevedo, absent
Board Member Alice Bard, present
Board Member Larry Chmura, present
Board Member JoAnn Mattie, present
Board Member Lorry Roero, present
The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Chairperson Fairchild.
PUBLIC INPUT
No one spoke.
REGULAR AGENDA
REGULAR
600. Community Development Department - Urban Beautification Services Division
Discussion Of 2009 Neighborhood Improvement Grants.
Chairperson Fairchild commented on the discussion of 2009 Neighborhood Improvement
Grants, "Now I am assuming based on what we have in front of us, there is four (4) of
them, is that correct?" Mr. Steven Richart, Urban Beautification Services Manager,
Urban Beautification Services Division, Community Development Department answered,
"Correct."
Mr. Richart continued, "We have four (4) separate packages; I would like to start with the
one that says `510/513 South Edgemon' [Avenue]."
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Vice Chairperson Cara Lynn Roesner stated, "I know that we only have a total amount of
money to spend and do all parties come under that?"
Mr. Richart answered, "I do not know yet. We have about twelve thousand five hundred
[dollars] ($12,500.00) rounded right now available, maybe a little more but I rounded it
just to be safe. What we will do is go through them - so we will see together. What
would happen is if we did go over we would trim back a little so that way we could still
award Grants."
Mr. Richart informed the Board, "The Edgemon Avenue Grant package - it really is
something that displays what this program is about. It is a group of residents who got
together; they really wanted this project; they have wanted it for years and they worked
hard and I am proud of them." Mr. Richart continued, "In the interest of time, I am going
to run through it; we will start with page 6 of 17." Board Member Lorry Roero asked
where this is located.
Mr. Mike Mingea, Arborist, Urban Beautification Services Division, Community
Development Department replied, "That would be North of Elderwood [Street] -
Elderwood [Street] is your closest intersection."
Mr. Richart noted, "They are asking for the City's participation of twenty-one hundred
dollars ($2,100.00). They are talking about putting in twenty-three hundred and four
dollars ($2,304.00) in labor. They went out - they did a nice plan which is at the back of
your package and it is a nice design for people who do not do that." Board Member
Alice Bard interjected, "Almost all of it native too."
Mr. Richart explained, "We worked on that. I really wanted them to have a chance. This
is also a very dry and area; they are going to hand water - no irrigation. So, this plant
material needs to do well on a minimal amount of water." Mr. Richart added, "They are
talking about using Cassia [trees] which is not a native; it is an exotic but it is very
drought tolerant; Weeping Yaupon [Holly] is drought tolerant and it is a native; Sand
Live Oak is of course a native; Ilex Schilling; the Coontie [Palm] - a lot of native drought
tolerant stuff here."
Discussion.
Mr. Richart noted that related to the bollards, "That would be one (1) of our conditions,
that it would not block?" Board Member Bard replied, "Yes - block visibility." Mr.
Richart added, "That would be the condition - they would not block anything."
Discussion.
Vice Chairperson Roesner commented, "That the total price does not equate to cost of the
prices. I just totaled it out and it is understated by three hundred and fifty dollars
($350.00) and that does not take into consideration what the Jasmine would cost or what
the pine mulch and the manure."
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Vice Chairperson Roesner continued, "What they are requesting is not a true..." Mr.
Richart remarked, "...You have to remember that with a Grant like this, this amount is
going to change. What will happen is, they have no money; they are not asking to put in
any money with their Grant; so, it is going to be all labor. What we will do is buy this at
wholesale cost."
With further discussion, it was noted that the price will be lower because the pricing on
the plan is at retail price.
Continuing, Mr. Richart stated, "Basically - if we set this at a maximum of twenty-one
hundred dollars ($2,100.00) that would allow us also to go in, if we buy this at wholesale
as the City, and provide it to them, it would allow us to maybe let them buy a few more
things too."
Board Member Bard suggested, "If they do come up with - adding a few things. An idea
of another nice drought tolerant native vine would be the native..." Mr. Mingea
commented, "...Carolina Jessamine." Board Member Bard replied, " Actually I am
thinking of Coral Honeysuckle." Mr. Mingea said, "Not highly drought tolerant but if
they are willing to water." Board Member asked, "Would the Jessamine be better? I
have seen the Coral Honeysuckle do really well in like sand hill soils."
Chairperson Fairchild noted, "This is an area that has no Homeowners Association, so
they do not really have anybody to speak on their behalf, so that somebody did step-up is
huge and that they are willing to take this on." Mr. Richart added, "These ladies have
really worked hard."
Discussion continued on the plantings for the area on Edgemon Avenue.
"I WOULD GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION THEN THAT WE ACCEPT
THE `510/513 SOUTH EDGEMON AVENUE' BEAUTIFICATION PROJECT AS
OUTLINED IN THEIR PACKET. ALSO, WITH STAFF INVOLVEMENT WITH
THE INITIAL STAGES OF THE PROJECT." MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER
BARD. SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER ROERO. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
BOARD MEMBER BARD: AYE
CHAIRPERSON FAIRCHILD: AYE
BOARD MEMBER CHMURA: AYE
BOARD MEMBER MATTIE: AYE
VICE CHAIRPERSON ROESNER: AYE
BOARD MEMBER ROERO: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Continuing, Mr. Richart suggested, "Let's go to the `Parkstone Native Plantings'."
Discussion.
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Board Member Bard addressed the Board saying, "One thing this says, native plantings;
they are not all native - they are mostly native which I do want to point out is also part of
their Covenant with the Water Management District that I need to dredge with the
documents. But, Parkstone has not been following their Covenant with the Water
Management District which is at least of fifty percent (50%) of what they plant in the
common areas is supposed to be native and it is not." Mr. Richart asked, "For
Parkstone?" Board Member Bard replied, "Yes - no I am sorry, I meant Winding
Hollow." Mr. Richart stated, "Parkstone has done better. They are doing better; and this
job will be ninety-nine percent (99%) native anyway." Board Member Bard commented,
"Almost all, just the Allee Elm is not native."
Regarding this project, Mr. Richart noted, "However, the way that ties in with this, this
project they are trying to plant trees to eventually grow and provide some sort of screen
from [State Road] 434 to the houses and vice versa, so that there is a buffer - a tree
buffer, a canopy buffer."
Continuing, Mr. Richart acknowledged, "They have done a really nice job; they have
submitted here for three thousand twenty-six dollars ($3,026.00) from the City." Board
Member Bard asked, "And is that just for the trees?" Mr. Richart replied, "Yes, ninety
(90) trees. And I know that they are going to do irrigation but I think that they are paying
for that in their portion of the match. Basically, all we are being asked to do is buy the
trees, so the three grand is going to dive significantly because we can get a better price."
Board Member Bard asked, "Do you think that the Southern Cedar is going to make it
okay there? Doesn't it typically like drier soils and that is a wet area?" Mr. Richart
stated, "I think that they are going to strategically place the [Southern] Cedars - in areas
where it is going to be drier." Mr. Richart added, "There is ninety (90) trees here; this is
staked and mulched and irrigated."
Further discussion.
Board Member Bard commented, "If there would be a way to switch something out for
the Allee Elm just because - they will live to a certain point and then it just declines and
dies."
Continuing, Board Member Bard stated, "I am not sure what would be good to substitute
in for that. But that just does not seem like it lasts as long as people think." Board
Member Chmrua asked, "What are you thinking thirty (30) years or less?" Board
Member Board replied, "Definitely less." Mr. Richart asked Mr. Mingea for his
comments.
Mr. Mingea stated, "I would be in favor of deleting the Allee Elm partly because of its
weak root condition, you remember that hundreds and hundreds of them that blew over
during the storms, we were hardly able to get them to survive by resurrecting them, trying
to stake them."
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Next, Board Member Bard stated, "The nice thing about either something like either a
Fringe Tree or something like Walters Viburnum is that you have really nice blooming in
the Spring. Really pretty white blooms." Mr. Richart noted, "Other than it not really a
tree." Mr. Mingea added, "It is a large shrub." Mr. Richart stated, "The goal is to give
some sort of buffer - I think you lose that. You could even go the way of a Sabal Palm
grouping." Discussion.
"I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE PROJECT TITLED
`PARKSTONE NATIVE PLANTINGS' TO MOVE FORWARD WITH IT
CAPPING IT AT CITY PARTICIPATION AT THREE THOUSAND TWENTY-
SIX DOLLARS ($3,026.00), REMOVING THE TEN (10) ALLEE ELM
REPLACING WITH STAFF RECOMMENDATION." MOTION BY VICE
CHAIRPERSON ROESNER. SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER BARD.
DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
CHAIRPERSON FAIRCHILD: AYE
BOARD MEMBER CHMURA: AYE
BOARD MEMBER MATTIE: AYE
VICE CHAIRPERSON ROESNER: AYE
BOARD MEMBER ROERO: AYE
BOARD MEMBER BARD: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Next, Mr. Richart remarked, "The Highlands. We have had some controversy over the
original submittal."
Continuing, Mr. Richart observed, "This one has been very controversial; they submitted
it three (3) times now; Jeffrey Court was the original location and there was - a huge
misunderstanding with the residents there. So, the Board for Highlands has resubmitted
another project so that they could get something done and this is for their entranceway at
Sheoah [Boulevard] and [State Road] 434, the entryway at the median and then further
north of [State Road] 434 at Sheoah [Boulevard] and First [Street], they are going to
plant some trees. I think that it is a decent project." Mr. Richart added, "It is worth
doing. We talked about the plant material and we still do not have exactly what I told
them they needed."
Further discussion ensued regarding the plantings for the Highlands and the amount of
sod to remain in the planting area.
Mr. Richart suggested, "My thoughts are, just to recap, where it says Lantana, it is like
either Orange Bolvine or Spider Wort; one of the two (2), preferably the White Spider
Wort. Then the Coontie [Palm]; less Sod and the access to get into the left side."
Chairperson Fairchild stated, "So we would also need in the Motion that we need a
maintenance path which would require less sod and more plants."
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Chairperson Fairchild added, "For example Coontie [Palm]." Mr. Richart replied, "The
Coontie [Palm] would be up in the front area, where it says `Sod to remain by the two (2)
Palms'. That sod would all go and that would become Coontie [Palm]. The access path
would be more North."
Discussion.
Tape I Side B
Further discussion.
Mr. Richart noted, "What I would say is that I am coming up with the extra thousand that
we added in for the plants. Let's just round it to thirty-five hundred [dollars] ($3,500.00)
and make it simple." Discussion.
"I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR THE NIP [NEIGHBORHOOD
IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM] GRANT PROGRAM PROPOSAL FROM THE
HIGHLANDS. I PROPOSE THAT ATTACHMENT NUMBER FOUR (4) WITH
FIRST [STREET] AND SHEOAH [BOULEVARD] BE ACCEPTABLE AS
PROPOSED. ATTACHMENT NUMBER THREE (3) HAS SEVERAL
CHANGES. FIRST WE ARE GOING TO SUGGEST THAT THE CITY'S
PARTICIPATION BE RAISED FROM THE INITIAL TO THIRTY-FIVE
HUNDRED [DOLLARS] [$3,500.00], THAT BEING THAT THE SOD TO
REMAIN IS GOING TO BE REMOVED AND REPLACED WITH COONTIE
[PALM] AND/OR OTHER PER STAFF RECOMMENDATION. I AM ALSO
GOING TO RECOMMEND THAT PER STAFF RECOMMENDATION THAT
THE LANTANA BE REMOVED AND REPLACED WITH SPIDER WART OR
OTHER STAFF RECOMMENDATION. WE ARE ALSO GOING TO REQUIRE
THAT AN ENTRY WAY TO THE NORTH POINT BE AVAILABLE FOR
MAINTENANCE TO THE ISLAND AND THAT THEY WORK WITH STAFF
TO TRY AND MEET OUR FIFTY PERCENT (50%) REQUIREMENT.
HOWEVER THAT MIGHT REQUIRE THE JASMINE TO BE LOWERED AND
THAT PER STAFF RECOMMENDATION, AS LONG AS THEY COME
CLOSER TO THE FIFTY PERCENT (50%) SUCH AS FORTY PERCENT (40%),
IT MAY BE ALLOWABLE. AND ALSO PER STAFF RECOMMENDATION IF
POSSIBLE, THE AGAPANTHUS." MOTION BY VICE CHAIRPERSON
ROESNER. SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER ROERO. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
BOARD MEMBER CHMURA: AYE
BOARD MEMBER MATTIE: AYE
VICE CHAIRPERSON ROESNER: AYE
BOARD MEMBER ROERO: AYE
BOARD MEMBER BARD: AYE
CHAIRPERSON FAIRCHILD: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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Discussion for the `Chelsea Woods Pond Area Beautification' Project began as follows:
Mr. Richart noted, "Last and certainly not least..." Board Member Bard stated, "...I
have some problems with this one. Well, the biggest thing is how much they are asking
to be paid for basically maintenance of their own area before planting even occurs."
Mr. Mingea asked, "Is that Public Property?" Mr. Richart replied, "No." Mr. Mingea
stated, "There we go; then we are off." Discussion.
Vice Chairperson Roesner commented, "I do not think that this is viable for the Grant
because it is not on Public property."
Continuing, Mr. Richart remarked, "I checked. They are doing a Title Search but from
the people I know here at the City; we think it may be a part of the house that is next to it
there. But I do know that it is not City property; it is not Public property." Mr. Richart
added, "It is not Public property; it does not qualify."
Mr. Richart commented, "I told them to go ahead and submit even though - they could
plant some trees and plantings between the sidewalk and curb in front of that area at the
Right-of-Way. But there is nothing on here that addresses that so it would have to be a
huge change. We can suggest to them `here's what we would approve; we can approve a
dollar amount' and if they want to do it fine." Discussion.
"I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE DENY THE PROJECT ENTITLED `CHELSEA
WOODS POND AREA BEAUTIFICATION' DUE TO THE FACT THAT THE
MAJORITY OF THE PROJECT DOES NOT COMPLY WITH THE
GUIDELINES FOR THE BEAUTIFICATION NEIGHBORHOOD GRANT
PROGRAM. MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER BARD. SECONDED BY BOARD
MEMBER ROERO. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
BOARD MEMBER BARD: AYE
CHAIRPERSON FAIRCHILD: AYE
BOARD MEMBER CHMURA: AYE
BOARD MEMBER MATTIE: AYE
VICE CHAIRPERSON ROESNER: AYE
BOARD MEMBER ROERO: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Mr. Richart said, "It is not on the Agenda but if you want to just say anything about
`Arbor Day' - I think it went great; I think we had at least sixty (60) residents come
through. A lot of good education. The problem I had with it, it went too long, but I do
not want to focus on the negatives. I think next year we need to do a two (2) hour thing
and that is it." Discussion.
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Mr. Richart added, "Mike [Mingea] does a wonderful job; he works hard with it."
Continuing, Mr. Richart stated, "Mike (Mingea) did a wonderful job. I just want to thank
you again, Mike (Mingea); you worked real hard." Chairperson Fairchild commented,
"You did a great job Mike (Mingea)." Other Board members agreed that Mr. Mingea did
a great job. Mr. Mingea replied, "Thank you."
Further discussion.
Mr. Richart commented, "I just have to say `Thanks' to each of you for working tirelessly
on this Board and on our Events. And this is a really active Board now. I am proud of
each of you." Mr. Richart stated, "And also, we are going to be bringing some Banner
stuff to all of you." Discussion.
Mr. Richart reiterated, "We are doing trees, we are doing beautification, we are doing
Banners there is all kinds of stuff. We have the Memorial Tree Planting Program which I
am going to bring back to you."
Continuing, Mr. Richart specified, "Our Historic Tree Program, we are just getting
kicked off. If I leave you with anything today, is try to work on that in your spare time. If
you see, identify any trees that appear to be a historic tree let's look at those and get those
on the plate."
Mr. Richart stated, "We are working on the forms (for identifying a historic tree). For
instance, at the Highlands, the big Cypress at the Clubhouse - let's bring that before this
Board next Meeting."
Chairperson Fairchild asked that Board Member Bard please be at the next Meeting, and
stated, "We definitely need to do something in recognition of Ms. Bard."
ADJOURNMENT
Chairperson Fairchild adjourned the Special Meeting at 8:22 p.m.
RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED:
CAROL A. LALLATHIN
ASSISTANT TO THE CITY CLERK
NOTE: These Minutes were approved at the 2009 Regular Beautification of Winter Springs Board Meeting.