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CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA
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CITY COMMISSION
REGULAR MEETING
SEPTEMBER 24, 2007
CALL TO ORDER
The Regular Meeting of Monday, September 24, 2007 of the City Commission was
called to Order by Mayor John F. Bush at 5:15 p.m. in the Commission Chambers of the
Municipal Building (City Hall, 1126 East State Road 434, Winter Springs, Florida
32708).
Roll Call:
Mayor John F. Bush, present
Deputy Mayor Sally McGinnis, present
Commissioner Robert S. Miller, arrived at 5:16 p.m.
Commissioner Rick Brown, present
Commissioner Donald A. Gilmore, present
Commissioner Joanne M. Krebs, present
City Manager Ronald W. McLemore, arrived at 5:18 p.m.
City Attorney Anthony A. Garganese, arrived at 5: 18 p.m.
A moment of silence preceded the Pledge of Allegiance.
INFORMA TIONAL AGENDA
INFORMATIONAL
100. Community Development Department
Advising The City Commission Of The Status Of Various Current Planning
Projects.
No discussion.
Commissioner Robert S. Miller arrived at 5:16 p.m.
INFORMATIONAL
101. Public Works Department
Providing The City Commission With Information Regarding The City's
Independent Noise Data Collection On The Seminole Expressway (State Road 417).
Discussion ensued with Mr. Brian Fields, P.E., City Engineer, Public Works Department.
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City Manager Ronald W McLemore arrived at 5: 18 p. m.
City Attorney Anthony A. Garganese arrived at 5: 18 p. m.
With discussion, Commissioner Rick Brown suggested, "1 think we need to have a
Workshop."
Mayor Bush asked, "Do you think Commission, this would be something we should
bring to the attention of our local Legislators?" Deputy Mayor Sally McGinnis remarked,
"1 do." Commissioner Brown noted, "Probably after this Workshop."
Mr. Fields mentioned that a related issue would be discussed during the October 8th, 2007
Regular Meeting of the City Commission. Mayor Bush stated, "Let them know" that we
will ask about this issue.
INFORMATIONAL
102. Office Of The City Manager
Responding To The City Commission's Request For Information Regarding The
New Lake Mary Swimming Pool.
With discussion, Manager McLemore said, "We will be updating our costs and all that to
try to bring back to you an updated picture of it."
Further discussion.
"MOTION TO APPROVE." MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS.
MAYOR BUSH NOTED, "SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER GILMORE."
DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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.:..:. AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS
WERE DISCUSSED BUT NOT NECESSARIL Y IN THE ORDER
DOCUMENTED. .:. .:.
CONSENT AGENDA
CONSENT
200. Community Development Department - Urban Beautification Services
Division
Requesting Authorization To Enter Into A Contract Agreement For Landscape
Maintenance Services For Tuskawilla Road And The Oak Forest Wall And
Beautification District With REW Custom Landscape, LLC.
No discussion.
CONSENT
201. Community Development Department - Urban Beautification Services
Division
Requesting Authorization To Enter Into Contract Agreements For Landscape
Maintenance Services For Town Center Trail Park (Blumberg) With Central
Florida Landscaping And TruGreen Chemlawn.
Brief discussion.
CONSENT
202. Public Works Department
Requests The City Commission Validate The Staff Recommendation Finding The
DK Properties Site To Be Built In Substantial Accordance With The Final
Engineering Plans And To Accept The Potable Water Infrastructure For
Ownership And Maintenance.
There was no discussion on this Agenda Item.
CONSENT
203. Not Used.
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CONSENT
204. General Services Department
Requests The City Commission Approve Resolution 2007-42 Which Designates The
City Manager And The Finance Director As Authorized Representatives To Execute
Documentation Required By Fifth Third Bank On Behalf Of The City Of Winter
Springs.
This Agenda Item was not discussed.
CONSENT
205. Office Of The City Clerk
Approval Of The September 4, 2007 Town Hall Meeting Minutes.
No discussion.
CONSENT
206. Office Of The City Clerk
Approval Of The September 5, 2007 Town Hall Meeting Minutes.
There was no discussion on this Agenda Item.
CONSENT
207. Office Of The City Clerk
Approval Of The September 6,2007 Town Hall Meeting Minutes.
This Agenda Item was not discussed.
CONSENT
208. Office Of The City Clerk
Approval Of The September 10, 2007 City Commission Regular Meeting Minutes.
No discussion.
CONSENT
209. Office Of The City Clerk
Approval Of The September 11, 2007 City Commission Special Meeting Minutes.
There was no discussion on this Agenda Item.
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CONSENT
210. Office Of The City Manager And Office Of The City Attorney
Requesting The City Commission To Consider Continuing Special Labor And
Employment Legal Services With Jeffrey E. Mandel.
This Agenda Item was not discussed.
CONSENT
211. Public Works Department
Requests City Commission Authorization To Approve Resolution 2007-46 And
Enter Into A Landscape Construction And Maintenance Agreement With The
Florida Department Of Transportation For Landscape And Sidewalk Maintenance
Associated With The West End Center Project.
Commissioner Miller spoke on this Agenda Item and stated, "Congratulations to Staff
and the Commission for bringing that to fruition."
CONSENT
212. Community Development Department And Building Division
Requests That The Commission Authorize The Extension Of A General
Independent Contractor Agreement For Contract Building Inspection Services
With Framensons, Inc.
Brief discussion.
"SO MOYED." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BROWN. MAYOR BUSH
STATED, "SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER GILMORE." DISCUSSION.
YOTE:
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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AWARDS AND PRESENTATIONS
AWARDS AND PRESENT A nONS
300. Office Of The Mayor
Presentation To EMS Chief Marc Baumgart Who Has Completed A Four (4) Year
Program At The U.S. Fire Administration's National Fire Academy's (NFA)
Executive Fire Officer Program From The National Emergency Training Center,
U.S. Department of Homeland Security.
Mayor Bush and the City Commission presented an Award to EMS Chief Marc
Baumgart.
Mayor Bush called a Recess at 5:40 p.m.
The Regular Meeting was called back at 5:55 p.m.
REPORTS
REPORTS
400. Office Of The City Attorney - Anthony A. Garganese, Esquire
No Report.
REPORTS
401. Office Of The City Manager - Ronald W. McLemore
No Report.
REPORTS
402. Office Of The City Clerk - Andrea Lorenzo-Luaces, CMC
No Report.
REPORTS
403. Commission Seat Three - Donald A. Gilmore
No Report.
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REPORTS
404. Commission Seat FourlDeputy Mayor - Sally McGinnis
Deputy Mayor McGinnis asked to be informed when the Public Works building is
vacating their current property.
Brief discussion.
REPORTS
405. Commission Seat Five - Joanne M. Krebs
Commissioner Joanne M. Krebs asked about the permanent Fire Chief position. Manager
McLemore said, "I am getting ready to advertise it as soon as you decide this Budget."
Discussion.
Commissioner Krebs asked why there was only one (1) pool table purchased for the
Senior Center. Manager McLemore explained, "Let's buy one, see how it is used and if
we need a second one, we will bring it back to you and 1 am confident you will approve
it." Discussion.
REPORTS
406. Office Of The Mayor - John F. Bush
Mayor Bush spoke of the Friday, November 301\ 2007 Leadership Seminole event and
stated, "I would like to ask that the Commission approve that we reserve a table at this
event."
"SO MOVED." MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS. SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER KREBS. DISCUSSION.
MANAGER McLEMORE STATED, "IF YOU'RE GOING TO APPROVE SIX (6),
I WISH YOU COULD APPROVE SEVEN (7), AS I WOULD LIKE TO BE
THERE." DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS STATED, "I WILL GIVE YOU MY
CHAIR." MAYOR BUSH ADDED, "WE'LL MAKE SURE YOU GET A SEAT
MR. McLEMORE."
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VOTE:
DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Mayor Bush spoke of flying flags on the State Road 434 pedestrian bridge and said, "I
would like to recommend - we ask the Art Department of the High School to submit
designs for a flag for the City, and maybe have a prize of some kind, fifty bucks ($50.00)
or a hundred bucks ($100.00) to the winner - that they could bring back to the
Commission and could approve which flag they wanted."
Commissioner Krebs mentioned, "I think we have talked about this before, about maybe
that could be some type of a design throughout our City?" Mayor Bush noted, "Yes."
Commissioner Krebs added, "That would be a great idea. And we could even have it on
our buttons and things like that when we talk about being number 31."
"I MAKE A MOTION TO DO WHAT YOU SAID."
COMMISSIONER KREBS.
MOTION BY
MAYOR BUSH THEN STATED, "THE MOTION SHOULD INCLUDE IF WE
ARE GOING TO GIVE THEM A PRIZE FOR THE WINNER - FIFTY BUCKS
($50.00), A HUNDRED BUCKS ($100.00)."
DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS SUGGESTED, "WE AWARD A FIFTY DOLLAR
($50.00) STIPEND IN ADDITION TO THAT, THAT WE FOR A PERIOD OF
TIME, WE - OF COURSE GIVE THEM A PLAQUE THAT THEY WERE THE
OFFICIAL DESIGNER."
COMMISSIONER KREBS CONTINUED WITH HER MOTION SAYING,
"FOLLOWING WHAT YOU SAID, THEN MY MOTION WOULD INCLUDE A
FIFTY DOLLAR ($50.00) PRIZE FUND AS WELL AS ACKNOWLEDGEMENT
OF..." MAYOR BUSH SUGGESTED, "...APPROPRIATE RECOGNITION."
SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS. DISCUSSION.
MANAGER McLEMORE MENTIONED THE CITY SEAL/LOGO AND ASKED,
"ARE YOU GOING TO SUGGEST THAT IT HAS TO BE INCORPORATED
INTO THIS OR ARE YOU WILLING TO PUT YOUR LOGO AT STAKE HERE.
I WOULD SUGGEST THAT IS A BIGGER ISSUE THAN YOU MAY THINK."
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MAYOR BUSH REMARKED, "THE FLAG COULD ENCOMPASS THE LOGO."
MANAGER McLEMORE THEN SUGGESTED, "SHOULDN'T WE GIVE THE
DIRECTION THAT IT SHOULD ENCOMPASS THE LOGO?" MAYOR BUSH
STATED, "I THINK IT SHOULD." COMMISSIONER KREBS ADDED, "I
THINK THAT IS A GOOD IDEA. I THINK YOU SHOULD INCORPORATE
THE LOGO AS WELL INTO THE FLAG."
MAYOR BUSH POINTED OUT, "THIS DOES NOT IN ANY WAY CHANGE
THE LOGO OF THE CITY OR WON'T RESULT IN THAT AND I THINK WE
SHOULD LET THE CONTESTANTS KNOW THAT WE EXPECT THE LOGO
TO BE ON THE FLAG."
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Mayor Bush then mentioned the Florida League of Cities "Cities of Excellence Awards"
and mentioned the Awards Luncheon scheduled for November 9th, 2007 and asked, "Do
we want to get a table to be at the Luncheon?"
Mayor Bush added, "Can I have a Motion then to approve this?"
"SO MOVED." MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS. SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER GILMORE. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
REPORTS
407. Commission Seat One - Robert S. Miller
Commissioner Miller mentioned wanting to go to Tallahassee, Florida when the
Legislature is in session. Manager McLemore suggested, "I think I would like to talk to
our Lobbyist and discuss it with him, how he can line appointments up for us."
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"I WILL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE CONTACT OUR FEDERAL
OFFICIALS; THAT MR. McLEMORE PUTS TOGETHER A PLAN IF HE
WANTS TO WITH OUR STATE LOBBYISTS WHICH I WOULD ASSUME THE
LEAGUE OF CITIES - WHATEVER LOBBYISTS THAT WE CAN EMPLOY TO
DIG UP SOME INFORMATION ON THIS AND THEN AT SOME POINT WE
CONSIDER MAKING A TRIP UP THERE IN NOVEMBER OR DECEMBER."
MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MILLER. SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR
McGINNIS. DISCUSSION.
COMMISSIONER MILLER NOTED, "WE ARE ONLY TALKING ABOUT THE
AREA BEHIND THE INDUSTRIAL PARK RIGHT NOW WHICH - GOES
THROUGH THE WETLANDS."
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
REPORTS
408. Commission Seat Two - Rick Brown
Commissioner Brown mentioned an email from Ken Small on the Property Tax issue not
being on the ballot.
Next, Commissioner Brown asked for an update on the Veterans Memorial. Discussion.
.:..:. AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING REPORTS WERE ALSO GIVEN,
IN THE ORDER DOCUMENTED, FOLLOWED BY THE REST OF THE
AGENDA. .:. .:.
REPORTS
REPORTS
404. Commission Seat FourlDeputy Mayor - Sally McGinnis
Deputy Mayor McGinnis mentioned a Tri-County League of Cities Luncheon and an
issue of privatizing roads which was discussed at this meeting.
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REPORTS
403. Office Of The City Manager - Ronald W. McLemore
Manager McLemore mentioned that Seminole County was trying to get funding from the
State for the Trail.
PUBLIC INPUT
Mr. Bob Rucci, 973 Turkey Hol/ow Circle, Winter Springs, Florida: mentioned an effort
to support Pet Rescue by Judy and that a Petition had been started online to have
"Extreme Makeover [- Home Edition]" agree to build a new Shelter for 'Pet Rescue by
Judy'. Mr. Rucci thought this would be a great opportunity for Seminole County and
asked for the City's support.
Tape l/Side B
Mayor Bush suggested, "I recommend that maybe we do a Resolution in support of this
and encourage the other cities and the County to do the same."
"SO MOYED." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BROWN. SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER GILMORE. DISCUSSION.
YOTE:
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Mayor Bush then said to Mr. Rucci, "You might want to work with the Clerk on the
wording of this Resolution so it hits it on the nose." Mr. Rucci responded by saying, "I
will do that or 1 will get her in touch with Madeline Jordan."
Ms. M Rebecca Furman, Attorney, Lowndes Drosdick Doster Kantor & Reed, P.A., 215
North Eola Drive, Orlando, Florida: speaking on behalf of the James Doran Company,
Ms. Furman commented on Regular Agenda Item "600" and mentioned some concerns.
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.:..:. AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING REGULAR AGENDA ITEMS
WERE DISCUSSED NEXT, FOLLOWED BY THE REST OF THE AGENDA, AS
DOCUMENTED. .:. .:.
REGULAR AGENDA
REGULAR
600. Parks And Recreation Department
Requesting The City Commission Approval To Accept The Change Order From
A.D. Arnold For Existing Senior Center Remodeling In The Amount Of $42,770.00.
Mr. Chuck Pula, Director, Parks and Recreation Department spoke on this Agenda Item.
Discussion.
"I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THIS." MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR
McGINNIS. MAYOR BUSH STATED, "SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER
BROWN." DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
REGULAR
601. Utility Department
Requesting The City Commission Consider The Request By Tuscawilla Country
Club To Extend The Effluent Disposal Easement Agreement.
Discussion ensued with Mr. Kip Lockcuff, P.E., Director, Public WorkslUtility
Department.
"MOTION TO APPROVE." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BROWN.
SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS. DISCUSSION.
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VOTE:
COMMISSIONER KREBS: NAY
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
REGULAR
602. Office Of The City Manager
Requests The City Commission Adopt Resolution 2007-45 Establishing Oversized
Vehicle Restrictions On Blumberg Boulevard.
Manager McLemore began the discussion.
Much discussion.
Manager McLemore said, "I think that Anthony [Garganese] and 1 want to do some
wordsmithing on this from a legal side of the table."
Further discussion.
"I WANTED TO MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE THIS UNTIL - NEXT
MEETING." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER KREBS. SECONDED BY
DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN : AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Mayor Bush asked about "School buses". Manager McLemore noted, "We have talked
to the School Board and they have agreed - they will not have any school bus traffic on
that road."
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REGULAR
603. Office Of The City Clerk
Requests The City Commission Consider The Information They Have Received
Regarding The Performance Review Due September 27, 2007 For The City Clerk.
Discussion.
"I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE PROVIDE ANDREA (LORENZO-LUACES)
WITH THE CURRENT FOUR PERCENT (4%) INCREASE." MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER BROWN. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MILLER.
DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
REGULAR
604. Office Of The City Manager
ADD-ON
Requesting The City Commission To Consider Approval Of A Third Modification
Of The Settlement Agreement Between The City And The Tuscawilla Country Club
To Facilitate Proposed Development Of Parcel 7, And The Construction Of A 150
Foot Cell Tower And Related Conveyances Of Conservation Lands To The City.
Manager McLemore spoke on this Agenda Item.
Tape 2/Side A
Much discussion.
Commissioner Donald A. Gilmore said, "This whole hatched area here you are proposing
would go into Conservation?"
Mr. Mike Gardner, General Manager, Tuscawilla Country Club, 1500 Winter Springs
Boulevard, Winter Springs, Florida: remarked, "Correct."
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Commissioner Gilmore then asked, "All of it?" Mr. Gardner stated, "Absolutely."
Commissioner Gilmore then said, "And the Tower sits here and this tree line here you
could take out - is that what 1 hear?" Mr. Gardner stated, "1 don't think it is wide
enough. "
"I MAKE A MOTION WE TABLE THIS." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER
MILLER. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER KREBS. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
PUBLIC HEARINGS AGENDA
PUBLIC HEARINGS
500. Office Of The City Manager
Requesting That The City Commission Hold A Public Hearing Relative To The
Approval Of Resolution Number 2007-43, Which Establishes The Final Operating
Millage Rate For Fiscal Year 2007-2008 For The City Of Winter Springs And The
Final Voted Debt Service Millage Rate For Fiscal Year 2007-2008 For The City Of
Winter Springs.
Ms. Michelle Greco, Director, Finance Department presented this Agenda Item for
discussion.
Manager McLemore said, "On those options, that we did mention the 0.18 of a mil that
we need to put back in. Whatever option you're comfortable with and had.18 to it."
Discussion.
Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
Mr. Jeff McCall, Firefighter, Fire Department: commented on the Fire Department,
growth, funding needs, and competitiveness.
Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
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Tape 2/Side B
"I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THAT WE ADOPT OPTION 'C'." MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER BROWN. SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS.
DISCUSSION.
MANAGER McLEMORE ASKED, "DID THAT INCLUDE THE .18?"
COMMISSIONER BROWN RESPONDED, "IT DOES." MAYOR BUSH NOTED,
"AND OF COURSE THE VOTED MILLAGE WAS .1022 AS WELL. DIDN'T
CHANGE THAT AT ALL."
MS. GRECO, MENTIONED THAT "IN THE MOTION, YOU ALSO HAVE TO -
PUBLICL Y ANNOUNCE THE PERCENT OF ROLLED-BACK." MAYOR
BUSH THEN SAID, "DO YOU WANT TO TELL ME WHAT IT IS?" MS.
GRECO EXPLAINED, "WITH THAT OPTION IT IS 17.32 PERCENT LESS
THAN - THE ROLLED-BACK RATE OF 3.9303 WHICH IS Section 3. OF THE
RESOLUTION." MAYOR BUSH SUMMARIZED, "SO THE MOTION WOULD
INCLUDE THIS - 17.32 PERCENT LESS THAN THE ROLLED-BACK..." MS.
GRECO NOTED, "...OF 3.9303."
"SO MOVED." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BROWN. MAYOR BUSH
STATED, "COMMISSIONER BROWN HAS MOVED THAT AS WELL.
SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS." DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Mayor Bush called a Recess at 7:55 p.m.
The Regular Meeting was called back to Order at 8: 19 p. m.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
501. Office Of The City Manager
Requesting That The City Commission Hold A Public Hearing Relative To The
Approval Of Resolution Number 2007-44, Establishing The Final Budget For Fiscal
Year 2007-2008.
Mayor Bush spoke first on this Agenda Item.
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Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
No one spoke.
Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
"MOTION TO APPROVE." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BROWN.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER GILMORE. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
In other City business, Commissioner Brown spoke for the Record about earlier
comments.
Commissioner Brown said to Manager McLemore, "Going back to the James Doran
issue, I can certainly have a letter sent out through the Tenant's Association and if you
want, just shoot me all email as to what questions you would like answered by them; we
can certainly do that."
Furthermore, Commissioner Brown remarked, "I was wondering if we couldn't make our
position on the Winter Springs Golf Course a little more solid by transferring or looking
at the possibility of transferring Easement rights to another, or at least jointly with
another governmental body."
"I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THAT THE CITY CLERK PROVIDE US WITH A
VERBATIM TRANSCRIPT - OF THE ITEM WE DISCUSSED EARLIER."
MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MILLER. SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR
McGINNIS. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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Discussion followed on removing a Conservation Easement with a supermajority or
unanimous vote.
Commissioner Miller suggested, "If you do it by Development Agreement that it takes a
unanimous vote of the Commission to change it by Development Agreement, if Anthony
[Garganese] is comfortable with that." Attorney Garganese stated, "I will be happy to
look at that."
Discussion.
Commissioner Brown commented that "I don't think it was ever our intent and Mr.
Gardner referenced this when he spoke, I don't think it was ever our intent to handcuff
the [Tuscawilla] Country Club to the point where they couldn't maintain and continue to
develop their business as a Golf Course. I think the Conservation Easement and anybody
can correct me if I am wrong, I think the intent of the Conservation Easement we were
discussing that night was to prohibit the further development of the residential properties
that were being talked about and that I believe is what we were trying to get to when we
made the Motion and Voted on it. At least that was my intent.
If anybody had a different idea on that, please correct me." Mayor Bush stated, "I would
agree." Commissioner Miller added, "I would agree." Commissioner Gilmore stated, "I
made the Motion and that is what I agreed to."
.:. .:. AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING REGULAR AGENDA ITEM WAS
AGAIN DISCUSSED NEXT, AS DOCUMENTED. .:. .:.
REGULAR AGENDA
REGULAR
604. Office Of The City Manager
ADD-ON
Requesting The City Commission To Consider Approval Of A Third Modification
Of The Settlement Agreement Between The City And The Tuscawilla Country Club
To Facilitate Proposed Development Of Parcel 7, And The Construction Of A 150
Foot Cell Tower And Related Conveyances Of Conservation Lands To The City.
"I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THAT WE TAKE THIS OFF THE TABLE FOR
FURTHER DISCUSSION THIS EVENING." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER
BROWN. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER GILMORE. DISCUSSION.
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VOTE:
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: NAY
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Discussion.
Mayor Bush said to Mr. Gardner, "Is the [Tuscawilla] Country Club willing to give up
Development Rights on Parcel 8, keep it as golf course property, in return for the
Development rights on Parcel 77" Commissioner Krebs noted, "What originally we
agreed to, we agreed to Conservation. Now, if you want some form of Conservation in
there with stipulations for Golf Course, that is one thing."
Mayor Bush said to Mr. Gardner, "If the Commission were to change the word
Conservation into Golf Course property, does that solve your problem?" Commissioner
Brown said, "We just define what Conservation means."
Mr. Gardner responded, "I think it does, but in all, 1 have to deal with Counsel and make
sure that they're comfortable with that."
With further comments, Mr. Gardner noted, "We just want to be able to put a cart path
in..." Commissioner Brown added, "... You can probably see the intent of that Vote..."
Mr. Gardner then said, "... Exactly - that's our intent also - maintain it as is. The only
piece that gets a little tricky is around the Clubhouse."
Commissioner Brown noted, "I think the intent was to limit residential development
along what was originally.. ." Mayor Bush said, "... That was the intent..." Mr. Gardner
explained, "And that has the full intent of the ownership also, on that piece of property."
Commissioner Brown then stated, "So, if we can state that and put that into all the
wherefore's and whereas'."
"THAT WOULD BE MY MOTION THAT WE POSTPONE IT UNTIL THE
OCTOBER 2ND, [2007] MEETING." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER KREBS.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER GILMORE. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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Mayor Bush adjourned the Regular Meeting at 8:51 p.m.
RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED:
ANDREA LORENZO-LUACES, CMC
CITY CLERK
APPROVED:
MAYOR JOHN F. BUSH
NOTE: These Minutes were approved at the
, 2007 Regular City Commission Meeting.
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CALL TO ORDER
The Regular Meeting of Monday, September 24, 2007 of the City Commission was
called to Order by Mayor John F. Bush at 5:15 p.m. in the Commission Chambers of the
Municipal Building (City Hall, 1126 East State Road 434, Winter Springs, Florida
32708).
Roll Call:
Mayor John F. Bush, present
Deputy Mayor Sally McGinnis, present
Commissioner Robert S. Miller, arrived at 5:16 p.m.
Commissioner Rick Brown, present
Commissioner Donald A. Gilmore, present
Commissioner Joanne M. Krebs, present
City Manager Ronald W. McLemore, arrived at 5:18 p.m.
City Attorney Anthony A. Garganese, arrived at 5: 18 p.m.
A moment of silence preceded the Pledge of Allegiance.
INFORMATIONAL AGENDA
INFORMATIONAL
100. Community Development Department
Advising The City Commission Of The Status Of Various Current Planning
Projects.
No discussion.
Commissioner Robert S. Miller arrived at 5:16 p.m.
INFORMATIONAL
101. Public Works Department
Providing The City Commission With Information Regarding The City's
Independent Noise Data Collection On The Seminole Expressway (State Road 417).
Discussion ensued with Mr. Brian Fields, P.E., City Engineer, Public Works Department.
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City Manager Ronald W McLemore arrived at 5: 18 p. m.
City Attorney Anthony A. Garganese arrived at 5: 18 p. m.
With discussion, Commissioner Rick Brown suggested, "I think we need to have a
Workshop."
Mayor Bush asked, "Do you think Commission, this would be something we should
bring to the attention of our local Legislators?" Deputy Mayor Sally McGinnis remarked,
"I do." Commissioner Brown noted, "Probably after this Workshop."
Mr. Fields mentioned that a related issue would be discussed during the October 8th, 2007
Regular Meeting of the City Commission. Mayor Bush stated, "Let them know" that we
will ask about this issue.
INFORMATIONAL
102. Office Of The City Manager
Responding To The City Commission's Request For Information Regarding The
New Lake Mary Swimming Pool.
With discussion, Manager McLemore said, "We will be updating our costs and all that to
try to bring back to you an updated picture of it."
Further discussion.
"MOTION TO APPROVE." MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS.
MAYOR BUSH NOTED, "SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER GILMORE."
DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN : AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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.:. .:. AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS
WERE DISCUSSED BUT NOT NECESSARIL Y IN THE ORDER
DOCUMENTED. .:. .:.
CONSENT AGENDA
CONSENT
200. Community Development Department - Urban Beautification Services
Division
Requesting Authorization To Enter Into A Contract Agreement For Landscape
Maintenance Services For Tuskawilla Road And The Oak Forest Wall And
Beautification District With REW Custom Landscape, LLC.
No discussion.
CONSENT
201. Community Development Department - Urban Beautification Services
Division
Requesting Authorization To Enter Into Contract Agreements For Landscape
Maintenance Services For Town Center Trail Park (Blumberg) With Central
Florida Landscaping And TruGreen Chemlawn.
Brief discussion.
CONSENT
202. Public Works Department
Requests The City Commission Validate The Staff Recommendation Finding The
DK Properties Site To Be Built In Substantial Accordance With The Final
Engineering Plans And To Accept The Potable Water Infrastructure For
Ownership And Maintenance.
There was no discussion on this Agenda Item.
CONSENT
203. Not Used.
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CONSENT
204. General Services Department
Requests The City Commission Approve Resolution 2007-42 Which Designates The
City Manager And The Finance Director As Authorized Representatives To Execute
Documentation Required By Fifth Third Bank On Behalf Of The City Of Winter
Springs.
This Agenda Item was not discussed.
CONSENT
205. Office Of The City Clerk
Approval Of The September 4, 2007 Town Hall Meeting Minutes.
No discussion.
CONSENT
206. Office Of The City Clerk
Approval Of The September 5, 2007 Town Hall Meeting Minutes.
There was no discussion on this Agenda Item.
CONSENT
207. Office Of The City Clerk
Approval Of The September 6, 2007 Town Hall Meeting Minutes.
This Agenda Item was not discussed.
CONSENT
208. Office Of The City Clerk
Approval Of The September 10, 2007 City Commission Regular Meeting Minutes.
No discussion.
CONSENT
209. Office Of The City Clerk
Approval Of The September 11, 2007 City Commission Special Meeting Minutes.
There was no discussion on this Agenda Item.
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CONSENT
210. Office Of The City Manager And Office Of The City Attorney
Requesting The City Commission To Consider Continuing Special Labor And
Employment Legal Services With Jeffrey E. Mandel.
This Agenda Item was not discussed.
CONSENT
211. Public Works Department
Requests City Commission Authorization To Approve Resolution 2007-46 And
Enter Into A Landscape Construction And Maintenance Agreement With The
Florida Department Of Transportation For Landscape And Sidewalk Maintenance
Associated With The West End Center Project.
Commissioner Miller spoke on this Agenda Item and stated, "Congratulations to Staff
and the Commission for bringing that to fruition."
CONSENT
212. Community Development Department And Building Division
Requests That The Commission Authorize The Extension Of A General
Independent Contractor Agreement For Contract Building Inspection Services
With Framensons, Inc.
Brief discussion.
"SO MOVED." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BROWN. MAYOR BUSH
STATED, "SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER GILMORE." DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BROWN : AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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AWARDS AND PRESENTATIONS
AWARDS AND PRESENTATIONS
300. Office Of The Mayor
Presentation To EMS Chief Marc Baumgart Who Has Completed A Four (4) Year
Program At The U.S. Fire Administration's National Fire Academy's (NFA)
Executive Fire Officer Program From The National Emergency Training Center,
U.S. Department of Homeland Security.
Mayor Bush and the City Commission presented an A ward to EMS Chief Marc
Baumgart.
Mayor Bush called a Recess at 5:40 p.m.
The Regular Meeting was called back at 5:55 p.m.
REPORTS
REPORTS
400. Office Of The City Attorney - Anthony A. Garganese, Esquire
No Report.
REPORTS
401. Office Of The City Manager - Ronald W. McLemore
No Report.
REPORTS
402. Office Of The City Clerk - Andrea Lorenzo-Luaces, CMC
No Report.
REPORTS
403. Commission Seat Three - Donald A. Gilmore
No Report.
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REPORTS
404. Commission Seat Four/Deputy Mayor - Sally McGinnis
Deputy Mayor McGinnis asked to be informed when the Public Works building is
vacating their current property.
Brief discussion.
REPORTS
405. Commission Seat Five - Joanne M. Krebs
Commissioner Joanne M. Krebs asked about the permanent Fire Chief position. Manager
McLemore said, "I am getting ready to advertise it as soon as you decide this Budget."
Discussion.
Commissioner Krebs asked why there was only one (1) pool table purchased for the
Senior Center. Manager McLemore explained, "Let's buy one, see how it is used and if
we need a second one, we will bring it back to you and I am confident you will approve
it." Discussion.
REPORTS
406. Office Of The Mayor - John F. Bush
Mayor Bush spoke of the Friday, November 30th, 2007 Leadership Seminole event and
stated, "I would like to ask that the Commission approve that we reserve a table at this
event."
"SO MOVED." MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS. SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER KREBS. DISCUSSION.
MANAGER McLEMORE STATED, "IF YOU'RE GOING TO APPROVE SIX (6),
I WISH YOU COULD APPROVE SEVEN (7), AS I WOULD LIKE TO BE
THERE." DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS STATED, "I WILL GIVE YOU MY
CHAIR." MAYOR BUSH ADDED, "WE'LL MAKE SURE YOU GET A SEAT
MR. McLEMORE."
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VOTE:
DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN : AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Mayor Bush spoke of flying flags on the State Road 434 pedestrian bridge and said, "I
would like to recommend - we ask the Art Department of the High School to submit
designs for a flag for the City, and maybe have a prize of some kind, fifty bucks ($50.00)
or a hundred bucks ($100.00) to the winner - that they could bring back to the
Commission and could approve which flag they wanted."
Commissioner Krebs mentioned, "I think we have talked about this before, about maybe
that could be some type of a design throughout our City?" Mayor Bush noted, "Yes."
Commissioner Krebs added, "That would be a great idea. And we could even have it on
our buttons and things like that when we talk about being number 31."
"I MAKE A MOTION TO DO WHAT YOU SAID."
COMMISSIONER KREBS.
MOTION BY
MAYOR BUSH THEN STATED, "THE MOTION SHOULD INCLUDE IF WE
ARE GOING TO GIVE THEM A PRIZE FOR THE WINNER - FIFTY BUCKS
($50.00), A HUNDRED BUCKS ($100.00)."
DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS SUGGESTED, "WE AWARD A FIFTY DOLLAR
($50.00) STIPEND IN ADDITION TO THAT, THAT WE FOR A PERIOD OF
TIME, WE - OF COURSE GIVE THEM A PLAQUE THAT THEY WERE THE
OFFICIAL DESIGNER."
COMMISSIONER KREBS CONTINUED WITH HER MOTION SAYING,
"FOLLOWING WHAT YOU SAID, THEN MY MOTION WOULD INCLUDE A
FIFTY DOLLAR ($50.00) PRIZE FUND AS WELL AS ACKNOWLEDGEMENT
OF..." MAYOR BUSH SUGGESTED, "...APPROPRIATE RECOGNITION."
SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS. DISCUSSION.
MANAGER McLEMORE MENTIONED THE CITY SEAL/LOGO AND ASKED,
"ARE YOU GOING TO SUGGEST THAT IT HAS TO BE INCORPORATED
INTO THIS OR ARE YOU WILLING TO PUT YOUR LOGO AT STAKE HERE.
I WOULD SUGGEST THAT IS A BIGGER ISSUE THAN YOU MAY THINK."
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MAYOR BUSH REMARKED, "THE FLAG COULD ENCOMPASS THE LOGO."
MANAGER McLEMORE THEN SUGGESTED, "SHOULDN'T WE GIVE THE
DIRECTION THAT IT SHOULD ENCOMPASS THE LOGO?" MAYOR BUSH
STATED, "I THINK IT SHOULD." COMMISSIONER KREBS ADDED, "I
THINK THAT IS A GOOD IDEA. I THINK YOU SHOULD INCORPORATE
THE LOGO AS WELL INTO THE FLAG."
MAYOR BUSH POINTED OUT, "THIS DOES NOT IN ANY WAY CHANGE
THE LOGO OF THE CITY OR WON'T RESULT IN THAT AND I THINK WE
SHOULD LET THE CONTESTANTS KNOW THAT WE EXPECT THE LOGO
TO BE ON THE FLAG."
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN : AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Mayor Bush then mentioned the Florida League of Cities "Cities of Excellence Awards"
and mentioned the Awards Luncheon scheduled for November 9th, 2007 and asked, "Do
we want to get a table to be at the Luncheon?"
Mayor Bush added, "Can 1 have a Motion then to approve this?"
"SO MOVED." MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS. SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER GILMORE. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
REPORTS
407. Commission Seat One - Robert S. Miller
Commissioner Miller mentioned wanting to go to Tallahassee, Florida when the
Legislature is in session. Manager McLemore suggested, "I think 1 would like to talk to
our Lobbyist and discuss it with him, how he can line appointments up for us."
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"I WILL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE CONTACT OUR FEDERAL
OFFICIALS; THAT MR. McLEMORE PUTS TOGETHER A PLAN IF HE
WANTS TO WITH OUR STATE LOBBYISTS WHICH I WOULD ASSUME THE
LEAGUE OF CITIES - WHATEVER LOBBYISTS THAT WE CAN EMPLOY TO
DIG UP SOME INFORMATION ON THIS AND THEN AT SOME POINT WE
CONSIDER MAKING A TRIP UP THERE IN NOVEMBER OR DECEMBER."
MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MILLER. SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR
McGINNIS. DISCUSSION.
COMMISSIONER MILLER NOTED, "WE ARE ONLY TALKING ABOUT THE
AREA BEHIND THE INDUSTRIAL PARK RIGHT NOW WHICH - GOES
THROUGH THE WETLANDS."
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN : AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
REPORTS
408. Commission Seat Two - Rick Brown
Commissioner Brown mentioned an email from Ken Small on the Property Tax issue not
being on the ballot.
Next, Commissioner Brown asked for an update on the Veterans Memorial. Discussion.
.:..:. AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING REPORTS WERE ALSO GIVEN,
IN THE ORDER DOCUMENTED, FOLLOWED BY THE REST OF THE
AGENDA. .:. .:.
REPORTS
REPORTS
404. Commission Seat Four/Deputy Mayor - Sally McGinnis
Deputy Mayor McGinnis mentioned a Tri-County League of Cities Luncheon and an
issue of privatizing roads which was discussed at this meeting.
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REPORTS
403. Office Of The City Manager - Ronald W. McLemore
Manager McLemore mentioned that Seminole County was trying to get funding from the
State for the Trail.
PUBLIC INPUT
Mr. Bob Rucci, 973 Turkey Hollow Circle, Winter Springs, Florida: mentioned an effort
to support Pet Rescue by Judy and that a Petition had been started online to have
"Extreme Makeover [- Home Edition]" agree to build a new Shelter for 'Pet Rescue by
Judy' . Mr. Rucci thought this would be a great opportunity for Seminole County and
asked for the City's support.
Tape 1/Side B
Mayor Bush suggested, "I recommend that maybe we do a Resolution in support of this
and encourage the other cities and the County to do the same."
"SO MOVED." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BROWN. SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER GILMORE. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Mayor Bush then said to Mr. Rucci, "You might want to work with the Clerk on the
wording of this Resolution so it hits it on the nose." Mr. Rucci responded by saying, "I
will do that or I will get her in touch with Madeline Jordan."
Ms. M Rebecca Furman, Attorney, Lowndes Drosdick Doster Kantor & Reed, P.A., 215
North Eola Drive, Orlando, Florida: speaking on behalf of the James Doran Company,
Ms. Furman commented on Regular Agenda Item "600" and mentioned some concerns.
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.:..:. AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING REGULAR AGENDA ITEMS
WERE DISCUSSED NEXT, FOLLOWED BY THE REST OF THE AGENDA, AS
DOCUMENTED. .:. .:.
REGULAR AGENDA
REGULAR
600. Parks And Recreation Department
Requesting The City Commission Approval To Accept The Change Order From
A.D. Arnold For Existing Senior Center Remodeling In The Amount Of $42,770.00.
Mr. Chuck Pula, Director, Parks and Recreation Department spoke on this Agenda Item.
Discussion.
"I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THIS." MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR
McGINNIS. MAYOR BUSH STATED, "SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER
BROWN." DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
REGULAR
601. Utility Department
Requesting The City Commission Consider The Request By Tuscawilla Country
Club To Extend The Effluent Disposal Easement Agreement.
Discussion ensued with Mr. Kip Lockcuff, P.E., Director, Public Works/Utility
Department.
"MOTION TO APPROVE." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BROWN.
SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS. DISCUSSION.
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VOTE:
COMMISSIONER KREBS: NAY
COMMISSIONER BROWN : AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
REGULAR
602. Office Of The City Manager
Requests The City Commission Adopt Resolution 2007-45 Establishing Oversized
Vehicle Restrictions On Blumberg Boulevard.
Manager McLemore began the discussion.
Much discussion.
Manager McLemore said, "I think that Anthony [Garganese] and 1 want to do some
wordsmithing on this from a legal side of the table."
Further discussion.
"I WANTED TO MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE THIS UNTIL - NEXT
MEETING." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER KREBS. SECONDED BY
DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Mayor Bush asked about "School buses". Manager McLemore noted, "We have talked
to the School Board and they have agreed - they will not have any school bus traffic on
that road."
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REGULAR
603. Office Of The City Clerk
Requests The City Commission Consider The Information They Have Received
Regarding The Performance Review Due September 27,2007 For The City Clerk.
Discussion.
"I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE PROVIDE ANDREA (LORENZO-LUACES)
WITH THE CURRENT FOUR PERCENT (4%) INCREASE." MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER BROWN. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MILLER.
DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN : AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
REGULAR
604. Office Of The City Manager
ADD-ON
Requesting The City Commission To Consider Approval Of A Third Modification
Of The Settlement Agreement Between The City And The Tuscawilla Country Club
To Facilitate Proposed Development Of Parcel 7, And The Construction Of A 150
Foot Cell Tower And Related Conveyances Of Conservation Lands To The City.
Manager McLemore spoke on this Agenda Item.
Tape 2/Side A
Much discussion.
Commissioner Donald A. Gilmore said, "This whole hatched area here you are proposing
would go into Conservation?"
Mr. Mike Gardner, General Manager, Tuscawilla Country Club, 1500 Winter Springs
Boulevard, Winter Springs, Florida: remarked, "Correct."
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Commissioner Gilmore then asked, "All of it?" Mr. Gardner stated, "Absolutely."
Commissioner Gilmore then said, "And the Tower sits here and this tree line here you
could take out - is that what 1 hear?" Mr. Gardner stated, "1 don't think it is wide
enough. "
"I MAKE A MOTION WE TABLE THIS." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER
MILLER. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER KREBS. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BROWN : AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
PUBLIC HEARINGS AGENDA
PUBLIC HEARINGS
500. Office Of The City Manager
Requesting That The City Commission Hold A Public Hearing Relative To The
Approval Of Resolution Number 2007-43, Which Establishes The Final Operating
Millage Rate For Fiscal Year 2007-2008 For The City Of Winter Springs And The
Final Voted Debt Service Millage Rate For Fiscal Year 2007-2008 For The City Of
Winter Springs.
Ms. Michelle Greco, Director, Finance Department presented this Agenda Item for
discussion.
Manager McLemore said, "On those options, that we did mention the 0.18 of a mil that
we need to put back in. Whatever option you're comfortable with and had .18 to it."
Discussion.
Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
Mr. Jeff McCall, Firefighter, Fire Department: commented on the Fire Department,
growth, funding needs, and competitiveness.
Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
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"I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THAT WE ADOPT OPTION 'C'." MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER BROWN. SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS.
DISCUSSION.
MANAGER McLEMORE ASKED, "DID THAT INCLUDE THE .18?"
COMMISSIONER BROWN RESPONDED, "IT DOES." MAYOR BUSH NOTED,
"AND OF COURSE THE VOTED MILLAGE WAS .1022 AS WELL. DIDN'T
CHANGE THAT AT ALL."
MS. GRECO, MENTIONED THAT "IN THE MOTION, YOU ALSO HAVE TO -
PUBLICL Y ANNOUNCE THE PERCENT OF ROLLED-BACK." MAYOR
BUSH THEN SAID, "DO YOU WANT TO TELL ME WHAT IT IS?" MS.
GRECO EXPLAINED, "WITH THAT OPTION IT IS 17.32 PERCENT LESS
THAN - THE ROLLED-BACK RATE OF 3.9303 WHICH IS Section 3. OF THE
RESOLUTION." MAYOR BUSH SUMMARIZED, "SO THE MOTION WOULD
INCLUDE THIS - 17.32 PERCENT LESS THAN THE ROLLED-BACK..." MS.
GRECO NOTED, "...OF 3.9303."
"SO MOVED." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BROWN. MAYOR BUSH
STATED, "COMMISSIONER BROWN HAS MOVED THAT AS WELL.
SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS." DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BROWN : AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Mayor Bush called a Recess at 7:55 p.m.
The Regular Meeting was called back to Order at 8: 19 p. m.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
501. Office Of The City Manager
Requesting That The City Commission Hold A Public Hearing Relative To The
Approval Of Resolution Number 2007-44, Establishing The Final Budget For Fiscal
Year 2007-2008.
Mayor Bush spoke first on this Agenda Item.
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Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
No one spoke.
Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
"MOTION TO APPROVE." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BROWN.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER GILMORE. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
In other City business, Commissioner Brown spoke for the Record about earlier
comments.
Commissioner Brown said to Manager McLemore, "Going back to the James Doran
issue, I can certainly have a letter sent out through the Tenant's Association and if you
want, just shoot me an email as to what questions you would like answered by them; we
can certainly do that."
Furthermore, Commissioner Brown remarked, "I was wondering if we couldn't make our
position on the Winter Springs Golf Course a little more solid by transferring or looking
at the possibility of transferring Easement rights to another, or at least jointly with
another governmental body."
"I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THAT THE CITY CLERK PROVIDE US WITH A
VERBATIM TRANSCRIPT - OF THE ITEM WE DISCUSSED EARLIER."
MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MILLER. SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR
McGINNIS. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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Discussion followed on removing a Conservation Easement with a supermajority or
unanimous vote.
Commissioner Miller suggested, "If you do it by Development Agreement that it takes a
unanimous vote of the Commission to change it by Development Agreement, if Anthony
[Garganese] is comfortable with that." Attorney Garganese stated, "I will be happy to
look at that."
Discussion.
Commissioner Brown commented that "I don't think it was ever our intent and Mr.
Gardner referenced this when he spoke, I don't think it was ever our intent to handcuff
the [Tuscawilla] Country Club to the point where they couldn't maintain and continue to
develop their business as a Golf Course. I think the Conservation Easement and anybody
can correct me if I am wrong, I think the intent of the Conservation Easement we were
discussing that night was to prohibit the further development of the residential properties
that were being talked about and that I believe is what we were trying to get to when we
made the Motion and Voted on it. At least that was my intent.
If anybody had a different idea on that, please correct me." Mayor Bush stated, "I would
agree." Commissioner Miller added, "I would agree." Commissioner Gilmore stated, "I
made the Motion and that is what I agreed to."
.:..:. AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING REGULAR AGENDA ITEM WAS
AGAIN DISCUSSED NEXT, AS DOCUMENTED. .:..:.
REGULAR AGENDA
REGULAR
604. Office Of The City Manager
ADD-ON
Requesting The City Commission To Consider Approval Of A Third Modification
Of The Settlement Agreement Between The City And The Tuscawilla Country Club
To Facilitate Proposed Development Of Parcel 7, And The Construction Of A 150
Foot Cell Tower And Related Conveyances Of Conservation Lands To The City.
"I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THAT WE TAKE THIS OFF THE TABLE FOR
FURTHER DISCUSSION THIS EVENING." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER
BROWN. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER GILMORE. DISCUSSION.
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VOTE:
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: NAY
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Discussion.
Mayor Bush said to Mr. Gardner, "Is the [Tuscawilla] Country Club willing to give up
Development Rights on Parcel 8, keep it as golf course property, in return for the
Development rights on Parcel 77" Commissioner Krebs noted, "What originally we
agreed to, we agreed to Conservation. Now, if you want some form of Conservation in
there with stipulations for Golf Course, that is one thing."
Mayor Bush said to Mr. Gardner, "If the Commission were to change the word
Conservation into Golf Course property, does that solve your problem?" Commissioner
Brown said, "We just define what Conservation means."
Mr. Gardner responded, "I think it does, but in all, I have to deal with Counsel and make
sure that they're comfortable with that."
With further comments, Mr. Gardner noted, "We just want to be able to put a cart path
in..." Commissioner Brown added, ".. . You can probably see the intent of that Vote..."
Mr. Gardner then said, ".. . Exactly - that's our intent also - maintain it as is. The only
piece that gets a little tricky is around the Clubhouse."
Commissioner Brown noted, "I think the intent was to limit residential development
along what was originally..." Mayor Bush said, "... That was the intent..." Mr. Gardner
explained, "And that has the full intent of the ownership also, on that piece of property."
Commissioner Brown then stated, "So, if we can state that and put that into all the
wherefore's and whereas' ."
"THAT WOULD BE MY MOTION THAT WE POSTPONE IT UNTIL THE
OCTOBER 2ND, [2007] MEETING." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER KREBS.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER GILMORE. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN : AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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ADJOURNMENT
Mayor Bush adjourned the Regular Meeting at 8:51 p.m.
RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED:
A LORENZO-LUACES, CMC
CLERK
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NOTE: These Minutes were approved at the October 8, 2007 Regular City Commission Meeting.