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HomeMy WebLinkAbout2004 01 20 Attached Handed Out at the Request of Chairman PittsDate: January 20, 2004 ATTACHED WAS HANDED OUT TO BOARD MEMBERS AT THE REQUEST OF CHAIRMAN PITTS. CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING -JANUARY 12, 2004 PAGE 26 OF 38 VOTE: COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE DEPUTY MAYOR MARTINEZ: AYE COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE MOTION CARRIED. Mayor Bush called a recess at 6:34 p. m. The Meeting was called back to order at 6: 46 p.m. Tape 2/Side B ~R,4R~ ~~" Commissioner McGinnis was presented with a cake in honor of her Birthday. :'`'FI;, h~ .y.~~dwVC:c. REGULAR "~ 512. Office Of Commissioner David W. McLeod Requesting Discussion Of The Range Of Fines Authorized Under The Tree Ordinance Which Can Be Assessed By The Code Enforcement Board. Commissioner McLeod introduced this Agenda Item. Manager McLemore returned to the Commission Chambers at 7:48 p. m. Much discussion. Commissioner Miller spoke for the record on the Villagio property. =Mor Bush stated, "I talked to the [City] Manager today about possibly trying to get something on the utility bill and maybe when someone comes in to get -their water hooked up, that they could be given some information specifically about this." Further discussion. Commissioner McLeod suggested, "I think that we need to take a look at -other areas - how their fines are or we put a cap on these fines." With further discussion, Commissioner Blake stated, "I think maybe Staff could take a look into the Code Board perhaps at the Attorney's office and sort of review and report back to us the level of expertise that they are showing on there and perhaps give us some idea of how we might be able to help them do the job even better." CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING -JANUARY 12, 2004 PAGE 27 OF 38 Commissioner Miller then stated, "I would like to see the City Manager bring to us an Information Item at the next Meeting, identifying the four (4) cases, if the Contractors were licensed or not, and if they didn't pull a permit, then I think we need to take a serious look at making certain that the City from now on goes after the Contractor with a lot more vigilance than we have in the past." Commissioner McGinnis stated, "I believe that abuses will continue forever unless we continually get the information out and the education out to the community, not once, not twice but ongoing, every way we can - if it means on every utility bill, just a reminder, it could be three (3) sentences - `alert', a newsletter statement, every newsletter, when permits are issued -all of those should be employed all the time." Mayor Bush suggested that "I think we're starting to need to put up tree cutting signs throughout the City telling people about this." Commissioner Blake agreed with the need for educating residents and added, "We do send out water bills to the vast majority of our residents on a monthly basis, that does have -some space on there where we can put notes - we can probably even put flyers in there, there is probably a way to do that I think Ron [McLemore] -these are all excellent ways to get information out. We have our Website. Even the Mayor's idea of posting signs around, I think there probably are ways." Commissioner Blake then spoke on the Arbor Ordinance and stated, "I believe that that Ordinance was a unanimous Vote - I will check on that tomorrow." Commissioner McLeod said, "Somebody had mentioned to have -perhaps the City Attorney's office to take the four (4) cases, look at the four (4) cases that are here in front of us this evening on the prior Ordinance." Tape 3/Side A Commissioner McLeod added, "We have alternative things here -given to us by Staff that says - we can maintain the current level of fines; we could amend the current level of fines by telling them what we want it to be; or they could research -fines imposed by other local govenunents and return the results to the Commission for review." Commissioner McLeod then said to Manager McLemore, "Was 3. done as really checking into other communities or did we come up with the fines we now have in the present Ordinance by some mathematical method?" Commissioner McLeod added, "Did we check all the other communities to find out -our fine levels, are we right with our fine levels?" Manager McLemore responded by saying, "To the best of my knowledge, we did not review the fine schedules of other cities - we reviewed the contents of Ordinances and that type of thing." v D ~:.,~:- ;~_ _~ , .«;~ _:; ,, ..a ~„ _~ ~~1 any ~` CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS MINUTES CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING -JANUARY 12, 2004 PAGE 28 OF 38 Further discussion ensued with Captain Glenn Tolleson, Police Department. Commissioner McLeod stated, "I think from a standpoint, even if it may go through the process and they take it to Court Ron [McLemore] and then they come back to us, I think we should have that information in front of us. I think we should be aware that they were all done consistently, or there was something that wasn't consistent with one of them, for whatever the reason." Commissioner McLeod added, "I think we all should still go back and look at this -these four (4) cases and find out how they line up" and how these relate to the old and new fines, and whether it would apply to the Contractor or the resident. "I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION BASED ON THIS, I WOULD LIKE THE FOUR (4) CASES TO BE LOOKED AT, IN THE FASHION THAT I HAVE ASKED HERE - A FEW MOMENTS AGO -AND THEN I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO -RESEARCH OUR FINES THAT ARE IMPOSED BY OTHER LOCAL GOVERNMENTS AND RETURN THOSE RESULTS TO THE COMMISSION - SEEING THAT, WE HAVEN'T REALLY DONE THAT. TELL US WHAT OURS IS COMPARED TO THE OTHER MUNICIPALITIES SURROUNDING US." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER McLEOD. COMMISSIONER McLEOD ADDED, "I WANT TO KNOW WHAT CASSELBERRY IS DOING; I WANT TO KNOW WHAT OVIEDO IS DOING; AND I WANT TO KNOW BASICALLY - SEMINOLE COUNTY, WHAT IS GOING ON WITHIN OUR COUNTY." COMMISSIONER McLEOD THEN SAID, "IF YOU WANT TO ADD THE OTHERS IN, FINE, I WOULD STILL LIKE TO KNOW WHAT SEMINOLE COUNTY IS DOING -THE CITIES THAT ARE SURROUNDING US." MAYOR BUSH ASKED COMMISSIONER McLEOD, "DO YOU WANT TO PUT A DATE TO HAVE THAT BACK BEFORE THE COMMISSION IN YOUR MOTION?" COMMISSIONER McLEOD STATED, "SIXTY (60) DAYS IS REASONABLE." SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. Commissioner Miller left the dais at 8:40 p. m. VOTE: DEPUTY MAYOR MARTINEZ: AYE COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE COMMISSIONER McLEOD: AYE Commissioner Miller returned to the dais at 8:41 p. m. 70 D '" ~A ~p ~~Y~.-~ ~~~; "~~=_ y. `-°:. COMMISSIONER MILLER: NAY COMMISSIONER BLAKE: AYE MOTION CARRIED.