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CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS
MINUTES
PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD/LOCAL PLANNING AGENCY
SPECIAL MEETlNG
NOVEMBER 20, 2002
I. CALL TO ORDER
The Planning and Zoning Board/Local Planning Agency Special Meeting was called to
order Wednesday, November 20, 2002, at 7:00 p.m. by Chairman Bill Fernandez in the
Commission Chambers of the Municipal Building (City Ha11, 1126 East State Road 434,
Winter Springs, Florida 32708).
Roll Call:
Chairman Bill Fernandez, present
Vice Chairman Tom Brown, present
Board Member Rosanne Karr, present
Board Member Joanne Krebs, absent
Board Member Sally McGinnis, absent
The Pledge of Allegiance was recited.
II. REGULAR
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A. State Road 434 Retail Center Preliminary & Final Site Plan.
Ms. Tracy Crowe, Principal Planner, Land Design Innovations, 140 North Orlando
Avenue, Winter Park, Florida: presented a report and recommendations on behalf of City
Staff, and distributed a letter from some Stone Gable residents which requests that an
eight foot (8') wall be constructed behind the four (4) residences abutting the State Road
434 Retail Center.
Mr. Hal Kantor, Attorney, Lowndes Drosdick Doster Kantor & Reed, 215 North Eola
Drive, Orlando, Florida: presented his presentation to the Board and spoke on behalf of
the Developer.
Chairman Fernandez opened the "Public Input" portion of the Meeting to the public.
Mr. Tom Kearney, 159 Stone Gable Circle, Winter Springs, Florida: President of the
Stone Gable Homeowner's Association stated "We are not opposed to their center lane
cut; we are just opposed to them taking ours away". Mr. Kearney also stated concerns
with the thirty-foot (30') buffer, the potential future expansion of the facility, and the
desire for no second story.
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Discussion developed.
Chairman Fernandez stated, "This property lies within the New Development Overlay
District, is that correct?" Ms. Crowe stated, "Yes." Chairman Fernandez then said, "That
is the City Ordinance. In your 'Findings', when it says - number 7), 'Preliminary Site
Plan is consistent with the City Comprehensive Plan and City Code of Ordinances', does
that refer to the New Development District Overlay, 434 New Development District
Overlay?" Ms. Crowe stated, "Yes, sir." Chairman Fernandez inquired about "Number
8), when it says 'The Pinal Engineering and Site Plan is consistent with the City
Comprehensive Plan and Code of Ordinances subject to the following conditions', does
that also reference the New District Overlay Zoning?" Ms. Crowe answered, "Yes sir."
Mr. Robert Johnston, 104 Stone Gable Circle, Winter Springs, Florida: discussed the
three (3) entranceway options for the Retail Center; requested a "Brick wall instead of a
Masonry wall" be constructed behind the affected properties; and that the wall be
constructed "On the other side of the trees".
Brief discussion developed regarding the wall that will separate Stone Gable from the
Retail Center.
Mr. Robert Keith, 106 Stone Gable Circle, Winter Springs, Florida: advised the Board
that the Stone Gable residents "Have had a difference of opinion on the wall and the
trees" and stated in regards to the wall height, "I think we can live with six feet (6') - we
do not want a Variance on the issue of the wall."
Ms. Katherine Snodgrass, 112 Stone Gable Circle, Winter Springs, Florida: addressed
the Board and explained that her residence was built on Lot 7 and stated, "I want a wall, I
do not want a Variance issued" because of the lack of trees behind her residence.
Ms. Maria Vargas, 110 Stone Gable Circle, Winter Springs, Florida: did not verbally
address the Board, but Chairman Fernandez stated that Ms. Vargas was in favor of a
buffer wall.
Mr. Anthony Edwards, 100 Stone Gable Circle, Winter Springs, Florida: stated, "My
family - we would like to have a natural tree buffer and then a wall after that." When
asked for his preference on the Stone Gable entrance median cut, Mr. Edwards replied, "I
would like to - keep our median cut."
Ms. Kasey Edwards, 100 Stone Gable Circle, Winter Springs, Florida: addressed the
"Drop-off' in her backyard and questioned how a wall would provide privacy when it
would sit so low. Mr. Kantor replied, "We have to fill part ofthe land."
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Mr. John Martin, 407 Flatwood Drive, Winter Springs, Florida: did not address the
Board.
Chairman Fernandez closed the "Public Input" portion of the Meeting to the public.
Tape 2/Side A
Mr. Kantor advised the Board that "I would ask [for] the approval of the project
consistent with the plans, consistent with the Staffs Recommendation, and consistent
with the DOT [Department of Transportation] approval." Chairman Fernandez asked Mr.
Kantor in regards to 8) a) of the Staff "Findings", "Do you agree to that on behalf of the
Developer?" Mr. Kantor stated, "Ifthat is the standard City condition, we agree to it."
Under 8) b) regarding drainage easement, Chairman Fernandez inquired, "Developer have
any problems?" Mr. Kantor stated, "No, we are aware of that. There is unapproved
drainage that crosses his property." Chairman Fernandez asked, "And you are going to go
along with an easement?" Mr. Kantor answered, "Yes."
Chairman Fernandez then asked, "Cross access on the west, cross access on the east, the
Developer is willing to go along with that?" Mr. Kantor said, "Yes sir, and it is not
shown on this drawing but we do show on the plan, a place that provides cross access on
the east. I do not know if we show it on the west."
In regards to dumpster pad enclosures and referencing Ordinance 2002-13, Chairman
Fernandez asked, "You are going to comply with that, and the plan shows at least fifty
foot (50') clearance?" Mr. Kantor said, "Yes, sir." "Signage consistent with - Section
20-470. and [Chapter] 16 of the City Code - the Developer has no problem?" Mr. Kantor
responded, "That is correct." In regards to "Off-site light spillage not exceeding .5 -
candle power", Mr. Kantor stated, "We agree with that." Chairman Fernandez read 8) h)
of the "Findings" and asked Mr. Kantor, "Does the Developer have any problems with
that?" Mr. Kantor answered, "No sir."
Regarding 8) i), addressing a six-foot (6') masonry wall that will be constructed across
the southern portion of the site, Mr. Kantor advised the Board, "We agree to that."
MOTION BY VICE CHAIRMAN BROWN. "I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A
RECOMMENDATION, THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS INCLUDE THE
FINDINGS WHICH MR. FERNANDEZ DISCUSSED. I MAKE A MOTION
THAT WE RECOMMEND TO WE TAKE THE STAFF'S
RECOMMENDATION THAT PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD
RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE S.R. [STATE ROAD] 434 RETAIL
CENTER PRELIMINARY AND FINAL ENGINEERING SITE PLANS, TO THE
CITY COMMISSION SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS: 8) a) THROUGH i)
SET FORTH IN THE FINDINGS SECTION ABOVE; AND THAT THE
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EXISITING DIRECTIONAL MEDIAN OPENING TO STONE GABLE REMAIN,
AND A NEW DIRECTIONAL MEDIAN OPENING BE CONSTRUCTED AT
THE WESTERN PROJECT'S ACCESS POINT." SECONDED BY BOARD
MEMBER KARR. DISCUSSION.
Mr. John Newbauer, 102 Stone Gable Circle, Winter Springs, Florida: spoke briefly
from the audience on this matter.
VOTE:
VICE CHAIRMAN BROWN: AYE
CHAIRMAN FERNANDEZ: AYE
BOARD MEMBER KARR: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Chairman Fernandez informed those in attendance that the Final Site Plan would be
presented to the City Commission on Monday, December 9,2002 for Final Approval.
III. FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS
This Agenda Item was not discussed.
IV. REPORTS
No Reports were given.
V. ADJOURNMENT
MOTION BY VICE CHAIRMAN BROWN. "I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE
ADJOURN." SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER KARR. DISCUSSION. WITH
CONSENSUS OF THE BOARD, THE MOTION WAS APPROVED.
MOTION CARRIED.
Chairman Fernandez adjourned the Meeting at 8:49 p.m.
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NOTE: These Minutes were approved at the February S, 2003 Planning And Zoning Board/Local Planning Agency Meeting.