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Home My WebLink About2004 07 07 Consent Item A .. CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS MINUTES PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD/LOCAL PLANNING AGENCY REGULAR MEETING JUNE 2, 2004 I. CALL TO ORDER The Planning and Zoning Board/Local Planning Agency Regular Meeting of Wednesday, June 2, 2004 was called to order at 7:05 p.m. by Chairperson Joanne Krebs in the Commission Chambers of the Municipal Building (City Hall, 1126 East State Road 434, Winter Springs, Florida 32708). Roll Call: Chairperson Joanne Krebs, present Vice Chairperson Rosanne Karr, present Board Member Tom Brown, present Board Member William Poe, present Board Member Ned V oska, absent Chairperson Krebs led the Pledge of Allegiance. II. CONSENT AGENDA CONSENT A. Approval Of The May 5, 2004 Regular Meeting Minutes. "I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE MAY 5th [2004] - REGULAR MEETING MINUTES." MOTION BY VICE CHAIRPERSON KARR. SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER POE. DISCUSSION. VOTE: CHAIRPERSON KREBS: AYE BOARD MEMBER POE: AYE BOARD MEMBER BROWN: AYE VICE CHAIRPERSON KARR: AYE MOTION CARRIED. .; CITY OF WfNTER SPRfNGS MfNUTES PLANNING AND ZONING BOARDILOCAL PLANNING AGENCY REGULAR MEETfNG - JUNE 2. 2004 PAGE 2 OF 12 III. PUBLIC HEARINGS AGENDA PUBLIC HEARINGS Community Development Department - Planning Division A. Requests The Planning And Zoning BoardlLocal Planning Agency Consider The Applicant's Request For The List Of Permitted Uses Within The "C-l Neighborhood Commercial" Zoning District To Be Amended To Include "ATV's (All-Terrain Vehicles) And Other SmanI Gasoline Engine Or Electric Motor Recreational Type Vehicles With A Dry Weight Of Less Than Six Hundred (600) Pounds, Sales". Chairperson Krebs opened the "Public Input" portion of this Agenda Item. No one spoke. Chairperson Krebs closed the "Public Input" portion of this Agenda Item. Ms. Eloise Sahlstrom, AICP, AS LA, Senior Planner, Community Development Department introduced this Agenda Item. Discussion. Ms. Sahlstrom said, "Staff is recommending denial because we believe this is not a 'Neighborhood Commercial Type Use' that it would be more of a regional - highway 'Commercial Use'." Ms. Sahlstrom added, "Under 'Neighborhood Commercial' currently, the existing Zoning does not allow sales of any type motorized vehicles although bicycles, sales and service are permitted." Discussion. Vice Chairperson Karr stated, "I want to compliment you [Ms. Sahlstrom] on your packet - Item A." Chairperson Krebs said, "I agree." Discussion ensued. Mr. Kuldeep Aggarwal, 1055 Edmiston Place, Longwood, Florida: Mr. Aggarwal asked the potential tenant, "Do you have any fuel or oil - on premises?" The answer from the tenant was, "No." Mr. Aggarwal stated, "We are trying to get that plaza alive." Mr. Aggarwal added, "This is a large tenant taking 11,000 square feet promising that there would not be any fuel on premises, no servicing on premises and no display on the road either. " Discussion. Ms. Sahlstrom stated, "The City Attorney [Anthony A. Garganese] has completed his review or input on the Development Agreement. It is my understanding that he will have that ready for the next [City] Commission Meeting." Further discussion ensued. .. CITY OF WfNTER SPRfNGS MfNUTES PLANNING AND ZONING BOARDILOCAL PLANNING AGENCY REGULAR MEETING - JUNE 2, 2004 PAGE 3 OF 12 "THE MOTION IS THAT WE APPROVE THE SALE - WE APPROVE THE BUILDING FOR THE SALE OF THESE VEHICLES WITH A TESTING FACILITY THAT WOULD FALL INTO THE REGULATIONS OF THE CITY AND A PLACE WHERE THEY WOULD RETURN - THAT WOULD FALL INTO THE ZONING OF THE CITY ALSO. WHICH MEANS IT COULD BE IN THE CITY IF THEY WERE IN INDUSTRIAL OR WHEREVER, WE WOULD BE ALLOWED TO HAVE GASOLINE - IN OTHER WORDS, THEY ARE GOING TO NEED TWO (2) LOCATIONS WITH THE MOTION I AM MAKING." MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER BROWN. MOTION DIED FOR LACK OF A SECOND. "I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THAT THE PLANNING AND ZONING . BOARD/LOCAL PLANNING AGENCY APPROVE THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST FOR THE LIST OF PERMITTED USES WITHIN THE 'C-l NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL' ZONING DISTRICT TO BE AMENDED TO INCLUDE ALL-TERRAIN VEHICLES AND OTHER SMALL GAS ENGINE OR ELECTRIC MOTOR RECREATIONAL VEHICLES WITH A DRY WEIGHT OF LESS THAN SIX HUNDRED (600) POUNDS, SALES." MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER POE. MOTION DIED FOR LACK OF A SECOND. "I RECOMMEND DENIAL OF THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST FOR THE ALL- TERRAIN. VEHICLE AND OTHER SMALL GASOLINE ENGINE OR ELECTRIC MOTOR VEHICLE, MOTOR RECREATIONAL TYPE VEHICLE WITH A DRY WEIGHT OF LESS THAN SIX HUNDRED POUNDS, SALES AS A PERMITTED USE IN THE 'C-l NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL' ZONING DISTRICT." MOTION BY VICE CHAIRPERSON KARR. SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER BROWN. DISCUSSION. VOTE: BOARDMEMBERBROWN: AYE VICE CHAIRPERSON KARR: AYE CHAIRPERSON KREBS: AYE BOARD MEMBER POE: NAY MOTION CARRIED. Ms. Sahlstrom stated, "This will go to the City Commission - the fourth Monday in June." CITY OF WfNTER SPRfNGS MfNUTES PLANNING AND ZONING BOARDILOCAL PLANNING AGENCY REGULAR MEETfNG - JUNE 2. 2004 PAGE 4 OF 12 PUBLIC HEARINGS Community Development Department - Planning Division B. Requests The Planning And Zoning Board/Local Planning Agency Hold A Public Hearing For Ordinance 2004-26, A Large Scale Comprehensive Plan Text Amendment (LS-CPA-04-2) To Include The 10 (Ten) -Year Water Facilities Work Plan, By Amending The Future Land Use Element, The Conservation Element, The Capital Improvements Element, The Intergovernmental Coordination Element, And The Potable Water Sub-Element Of The Infrastructure Element. Ms. Sahlstrom introduced this Agenda Item. Ms. Sahlstrom stated, "We advertised this in the paper for LPA [Local Planning Agency] action tonight. We are scheduling it to go to the City Commission for transmittal on July 14, [2004]. Ms. Sahlstrom added, "I would recommend that we do not adopt it yet based on the St. John's - River Water Management District completing their regional plan - but it will give us time to coordinate with them at that point - coordinate with the County." Chairperson Krebs opened the "Public Input" portion of this Agenda Item. Mr. Dick Boyer, Seminole County, Senior Planner, 1101 East First Street, Sanford, Florida: Mr. Boyer stated, "Our concern with the proposed City Amendment is the opportunity it provides for - urban encroachment into the City's - established east rural area. In closing, the County does object to the east rural area being included within your proposed service area map and would request that that portion be removed from the map under your consideration." Tape 1/Side B Discussion. Mr. Jim Logue, President, Black Hammock Association, 3205 Elm Street, Oviedo, Florida: addressed the Board regarding his concerns. Much discussion ensued regarding the project by the Staff and the Board Members. Chairperson Krebs closed the "Public Input" portion of this Agenda Item. "I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT THE [PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD/] LOCAL PLANNING AGENCY HOLD A PUBLIC MEETING AND MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE CITY COMMISSION RELATED TO ORDINANCE 2004-26 LARGE SCALE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TEXT AMENDMENT LS-CPA-04-02 INCLUDING THE 10 (TEN) YEAR WATER SUPPLY FACILITIES WORK PLAN BY AMENDING THE FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT, THE CONSERVATION ELEMENT, THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT ELEMENT, AND THE INTERGOVERNMENTAL CITY OF WfNTER SPRINGS M fNUTES PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD/LOCAL PLANNING AGENCY REGULAR MEETfNG - JUNE 2. 2004 PAGE 5 OF 12 COORDINATION ELEMENT, AND A POTABLE WATER SUB-ELEMENT OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE ELEMENT. ALSO, ATTACHED TO THE RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE THE FINDINGS BY THE STAFF. THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TEXT AMENDMENT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE GOALS, OBJECTIVES, AND POLICIES OF THE CITY'S ADOPTIVE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. THE REQUEST IS IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE PURPOSE AND THE INTENT OF THE CITY CODE AND WITH ALL APPLICABLE REQUIREMENTS. THE REQUEST IS COMPATIBLE AND FURTHER ELEMENTS OF THE STATE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND CHAPTER 187 OF FLORIDA STATUTE. THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT IS - COMPATIBLE WITH AND FURTHER ELEMENTS OF THE EAST CENTRAL FLORIDA COMPREHENSIVE REGIONAL POLICY PLAN." MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER BROWN. SECONDED BY VICE CHAIRPERSON KARR. DISCUSSION. VOTE: VICE CHAIRPERSON KARR: AYE BOARD MEMBER BROWN : AYE BOARD MEMBER POE: AYE CHAIRPERSON KREBS: AYE MOTION CARRIED. Ms. Sahlstrom indicated, "This will go to the Commission July 14th [2004] because I needed to make sure that Kip Lockcuff [P.E., Public WorkslUtility Department Director] would be available to answer so many of the questions related to Public Works." Discussion. PUBLIC HEARINGS Community Development Department - PDanning Division C. Requests The Planning And Zoning Board/Local Planning Agency Hold A Public Hearing For Ordinance 2004-16 Adopting A Small Scale FLUM Amendment Changing The Future Land Use Map Designation Of An 8.56 Acre Parcel, Located At 1181 Orange Avenue, From (Seminole County) "Suburban Estates" And "Conservation" To (City Of Winter Springs) "Town Center" And "Conservation Overlay" (On Those Affected Areas). Chairperson Krebs opened the "Public Input" portion of this Agenda Item. No one spoke. Chairperson Krebs closed the "Public Input" portion of this Agenda Item. Ms. Sahlstrom introduced the Agenda Item. Discussion. ~ CITY OF WfNTER SPRfNGS MfNUTES PLANNING AND ZONING BOARDILOCAL PLANNING AGENCY REGULAR MEETfNG - JUNE 2, 2004 PAGE 6 OF 12 Ms. Sahlstrom stated, "The applicant is [Mr.] Tom Corkery who is actually the same person who - had before you [Board Members] on the Barclay Woods project. He is the Developer." . "I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE RECOMMEND TO THE CITY COMMISSION A MOTION RELATED TO ORDINANCE 2004-16 WHICH ADOPTS A SMALL SCALE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT AND CHANGES THE FUTURE LAND USE ][)ESIGNATION FROM THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AT 1181 ORANGE AVENUE, FROM SEMINOLE COUNTY 'SUBURBAN ESTATES' AND 'CONSERVATION' TO THE CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS 'TOWN CENTER' AND 'CONSERVATION OVERLAY'." MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER POE. SECON][)ED BY BOARD MEMBER BROWN. DISCUSSION. VOTE: BOARD MEMBER BROWN: AYE CHAIRPERSON KREBS: AYE VICE CHAIRPERSON KARR: NAY BOARD MEMBER POE: AYE MOTION CARRIED. Discussion. PUBLIC HEARINGS Community Development Department - Planning Division D. Requests The Planning And Zoning Board/Local Planning Agency Hold A Public Hearing Related To Ordinance 2004-17 Which Rezones 8.56 Acres (More Or Less), Located At 1181 Orange Avenue From "A-I" Agricultural (Seminole County) To "Town Center" (City Of Winter Springs). Chairperson Krebs opened the "Public Input" portion of this Agenda Item. No one spoke. Chairperson Krebs closed the "Public Input" portion of this Agenda Item. Ms. Sahlstrom presented the Agenda Item. Discussion. Ms. Sahlstrom stated, "I do believe this is very appropriate for the 'Town Center'. Tape 2/Side A CITY OF WfNTER SPRfNGS MfNUTES PLANNING AND ZONING BOARDILOCAL PLANNING AGENCY REGULAR MEETfNG - JUNE 2, 2004 PAGE 7 OF 12 "I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE RECOMMEND CHANGING ZONING CLASSIFICATION ON THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AT 1181 ORANGE AVENUE FROM 'A-I' AGRICULTURAL SEMINOLE COUNTY TO 'TOWN CENTER' CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS." MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER POE. SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER BROWN. DISCUSSION. VOTE: VICE CHAIRPERSON KARR: NAY BOARDMEMBERPOE: AYE CHAIRPERSON KREBS: AYE BOARD MEMBER BROWN : AYE MOTION CARRIED. PUBLIC HEARINGS Community Development Department - Planning Division E. Requests The Planning And Zoning Board/Local Planning Agency Hold A Public Hearing For Ordinance 2004-19 Adopting A Small Scale FLUM Amendment Changing The Future Land Use Map Designation Of An 1.7 Acre Parcel, Located At 1184 Orange Avenue, From (Seminole County) "Suburban Estates" And "Conservation" To (City Of Winter Springs) "Town Center" And "Conservation Overlay" (On Those Affected Areas). ChairpersonXrebs opened the "Public Input" portion of this Agenda Item. No one spoke. Chairperson Krebs closed the "Public Input" portion of this Agenda Item. Ms. Sahlstrom introduced the Agenda Item. Ms. Sahlstrom stated, "Staff recommends that this Small Scale Future Land Use Map Amendment be adopted which would change the Future Land Use Map Designation on a 1.7 acre parcel located at 1184 Orange Avenue from Seminole County 'Suburban Estates' and 'Conservation' to City of Winter Springs 'Town Center' and 'Conservation Overlay' on those affected areas. There again, we feel this is the appropriate Future Land Use given what is adjacent to it. We believe that this is in the best interest to be part of the 'Town Center'." "I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THAT WE RECOMMEND THE ADOPTION OF THE SMALL SCALE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT WHICH CHANGES THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP DESIGNATION ON THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AT 1184 ORANGE AVENUE FROM SEMINOLE COUNTY 'SUBURBAN ESTATES' AND 'CONSERVATION' TO THE CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS 'TOWN CENTER' AND 'CONSERVATION OVERLAY' ON THOSE .. CITY OF WfNTER SPRfNGS MfNUTES PLANNING AND ZONING BOARDILOCAL PLANNING AGENCY REGULAR MEETING - JUNE 2, 2004 PAGE 8 OF 12 AFFECTED AREAS." MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER POE. SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER BROWN. DISCUSSION. VOTE: CHAIRPERSON KREBS: AYE BOARD MEMBER POE: AYE BOARD MEMBER BROWN : AYE VICE CHAIRPERSONKARR: AYE MOTION CARRIED. PUBLIC HEARINGS Community Development Department - Planning Division F. Requests The Planning And Zoning BoardlLocal Planning Agency Hold A Public Hearing Related To Ordinance 2004-20 Which Rezones Map Designation Of An 1.7 Acre Parcel, Located At 1184 Orange Avenue From "A-I" Agricultural (Seminole County) To "Town Center" (City Of Winter Springs). Chairperson Krebs opened the "Public Input" portion of this Agenda Item. No one spoke. Chairperson Krebs closed the "Public Input" portion of this Agenda Item. Ms. Sahlstrom presented the Agenda Item. Discussion. Ms. Sahlstrom said, "-We believe this is the appropriate zoning for this parcel." Ms. Sahlstrom added, "It is our recommendation that you approve it to move forward to the [City] Commission." "I MOVE THAT WE RECOMMEND CHANGING THE ZONING CLASSIFICATION ON THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AT 1184 ORANGE AVENUE FROM 'A-I' AGRICULTURAL SEMINOLE COUNTY TO 'TOWN CENTER' CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS." MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER POE. SECONDED BY VICE CHAIRPERSON KARR. DISCUSSION. VOTE: BOARDMEMBERBROWN: AYE CHAIRPERSON KREBS: AYE VICE CHAIRPERSON KARR: AYE. BOARD MEMBER POE: AYE MOTION CARRIED. CITY OF WfNTER SPRfNGS MfNUTES PLANNING AND ZONING BOARDILOCAL PLANNING AGENCY REGULAR MEETfNG - JUNE 2. 2004 PAGE 9 OF 12 PUBLIC HEARINGS Community Development Department - Planning Division G. Requests The Planning And Zoning Board/Local Planning Agency Hold A Public Hearing For Ordinance 2004-22 Adopting A Small Scale FLUM Amendment Changing The Future Land Use Map Designation Of Two Parcels, Located At Approximately 1268 Orange Avenue, From (Seminole County) "Suburban Estates" And "Conservation" To (City Of Winter Springs) "Town Center" And "Conservation Overlay" (On Those Affected Areas). Chairperson Krebs opened the "Public Input" portion of this Agenda Item. No one spoke. Chairperson Krebs closed the "Public Input" portion of this Agenda Item. Ms. Sahlstrom introduced this Agenda Item. Discussion. Ms. Sahlstrom said, "Staff believes the appropriate Future Land Use Designation for this property is 'Town Center' and is recommending that to you." "I RECOMMEND THAT [PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD/] LOCAL PLANNING AGENCY RECOMMEND TO THE CITY COMMISSION ORDINANCE 2004-22 WHICH ADOPTS A SMALL SCALE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT AND CHANGES THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION ON THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AT APPROXIMATELY 1268 ORANGE A VENUE FROM SEMINOLE COUNTY LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL AND 'CONSERVATION' TO THE CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS 'TOWN CENTER' AND 'CONSERVATION OVERLAY' ON THOSE AFFECTED AREAS." MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER POE. SECONDED BY VICE CHAIRPERSON KARR. DISCUSSION. VOTE: BOARD MEMBER POE: AYE VICE CHAIRPERSON KARR: AYE BOARDMEMBERBROWN: AYE CHAIRPERSON KREBS: AYE MOTION CARRIED. PUBLIC HEARINGS Community Development Department - Planning Division H. Requests The Planning And Zoning Board/Local Planning Agency Hold A Public Hearing Related To Ordinance 2004-23 Which Rezones Two Parcels, Located At Approximately 1268 Orange Avenue From "R-l" (Seminole County) To "Town Center" (City Of Winter Springs). CITY OF WfNTER SPRfNGS MfNUTES PLANNING AND ZONING BOARDILOCAL PLANNING AGENCY REGULAR MEETfNG - JUNE 2. 2004 PAGE 10 OF 12 Chairperson Krebs opened the "Public Input" portion of this Agenda Item. No one spoke. Chairperson Krebs closed the "Public Input" portion of this Agenda Item. Ms. Sahlstrom presented this Agenda Item. Ms. Sahlstrom stated, "We [Staff] believe that the most appropriate zoning for this parcel is 'Town Center' and that is our recommendation." "I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE RECOMMEND TO THE CITY COMMISSSION CHANGING THE ZONING CLASSIFICATION ON THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AT APPROXIMATELY 1268 ORANGE AVENUE FROM 'R-l' SEMINOLE COUNTY TO 'TOWN CENTER' CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS." MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER POE. SECONDED BY VICE CHAIRPERSON KARR. DISCUSSION. VOTE: CHAIRPERSON KREBS: AYE BOARD MEMBER BROWN: AYE BOARDMEMBERPOE: AYE VICE CHAIRPERSON KARR: AYE MOTION CARRIED. IV. FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS Vice Chairperson Karr discussed her concerns regarding the parks in Winter Springs and stated, "I would like to see Chuck Pula [Parks and Recreation Department Director] in here sometime in the near future." Vice Chairperson Karr added, "When I was there [Torcaso Park] with my children recently, there were serious violations going on and it was not being monitored." Vice Chairperson Karr said, "At the other park, Trotwood Park, there was graffiti all over, - graffiti all over the park." Vice Chairperson Karr added, "I want that to be an Agenda Item in the future." Ms. Sahlstrom said, "I know that Chuck Pula does need to come before you regarding a grant. He commented to me and he is intending to come in the next couple of months. But, I will also inform him that when he does come, it could probably be at the same time but that he should - be prepared to address these things." Lastly, Vice Chairperson Karr commented, "And the other park, Central Winds Park, which is beautiful now. It is seriously being violated." Chairperson Krebs said, "Is this something that needs to come before the [City] Commission too?" Ms. Sahlstrom stated, "You could speak - to the [City] Commission under Public Input." CITY OF WfNTER SPRfNGS MfNUTES PLANNING AND ZONING BOARDILOCAL PLANNING AGENCY REGULAR MEETfNG - JUNE 2, 2004 PAGE 11 OF 12 Vice Chairperson Karr said, "If we need to take it to the Commission, if I need to write a letter, if I need to make an appearance, I will." Vice Chairperson Karr asked, "Tell me when I should go to the [Commission] Meeting." Ms. Sahlstrom said, "The next Commission Meeting is June 14th [2004]." Board Member Brown commented that he attends the Police Advisory Committee Meetings and stated, "At our next Meeting, I would like to have on the Agenda that we would review the water [Torcaso Park] situation so we get a chance to read over what was given to us tonight and we might have more input and I will bring the old charts with me." Chairperson Krebs said, "If this Board wants it on the Agenda, we will put it on the Agenda." Chairperson Krebs said, "You should bring that up before the [City] Commission because in the audience will be - Police Chief [Daniel] Kerr and City Manager [Ronald W. McLemore] and at that point maybe even ask the [City] Commission to get the Police involved." V. REPORTS Referencing the next Audio Conference Training on Wednesday, June 23rd [2004] on 'Land Use, Planning and Environmental Law', Ms. Sahlstrom asked, "Just want to make sure everybody is still available for that date and wants to move forward with that." Board Members acknowledged attending. Ms. Sahlstrom presented the Phase II unveiling for the "Town Center" for the Board Members. Discussion. Tape 2/Side B VI. ADJOURNMENT "MOTION TO ADJOURN." MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER POE. SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER BROWN. DISCUSSION. WITH CONSENSUS OF THE BOARD THE MOTION WAS APPROVED. MOTION CARRIED. Chairperson Krebs adjourned the Meeting at 9:24 p.m. .. CITY OF WfNTER SPRfNGS MINUTES PLANNING AND ZONING BOARDILOCAL PLANNING AGENCY REGULAR MEETfNG - JUNE 2, 2004 PAGE 12 OF 12 RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED BY: APPROVED: ~ Nom Th~, M;"",~ -, .ppm,," "tho n 7 Agency Meeting. . 2004 Planning And Zoning Board/Local Planning