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HomeMy WebLinkAbout2004 05 05 Consent Item A CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS MINUTES PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD/LOCAL PLANNING AGENCY REGULAR MEETING APRIL 7, 2004 I. CALL TO ORDER The Planning and Zoning Board/Local Planning Agency Regular Meeting of Wednesday, April 7, 2004 was called to order at 7:00 p.m. by Chairperson Joanne Krebs in the Commission Chambers of the Municipal Building (City Hall, 1126 East State Road 434, Winter Springs, Florida 32708). Roll Call: Chairperson, Joanne Krebs, present Vice Chairperson Rosanne Karr, present Board Member Tom Brown, absent Board Member William Poe, present Board Member Ned Voska, present Chairperson Krebs led the Pledge of Allegiance. II. CONSENT AGENDA CONSENT A. Approval of the October 1,2003 Regular Meeting Minutes. "I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE OCTOBER 1, [2003J PLANNING AND ZONING [BOARD]/LOCAL PLANNING AGENCY - REGULAR MEETING MINUTES OF OCTOBER 1, 2003." MOTION BY VICE CHAIRPERSON KARR. SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER POE. DISCUSSION. VOTE: BOARD MEMBER VOSKA: AYE CHAIRPERSON KREBS: AYE BOARD MEMBER POE: AYE VICE CHAIRPERSON KARR: AYE MOTION CARRIED. CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS M lNUTES PLANNING AND ZONING BOARDILOCAL PLANNING AGENCY REGULAR MEETING - APRIL 7.2004 PAGE20F8 CONSENT B. Approval Of The February 4, 2004 Regular Meeting Minutes. "I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE MINUTES OF THE LOCAL PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD/LOCAL PLANNING AGENCY REGULAR MEETING OF FEBRUARY 4, 2004." MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER POE. SECONDED BY VICE CHAIRPERSON KARR. DISCUSSION. VOTE: VICE CHAIRPERSON KARR: AYE BOARD MEMBER VOSKA: AYE BOARD MEMBER POE: AYE CHAIRPERSON KREBS: AYE MOTION CARRIED. CONSENT C. Approval Of The February 19,2004 Special Meeting Minutes. "SO MOVED THAT WE APPROVE THE MEETING MINUTES OF THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 19, 2004." MOTION BY VICE CHAIRPERSON KARR; SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER VOSKA. DISCUSSION. VOTE: BOARD MEMBER VOSKA: AYE CHAIRPERSON KREBS: AYE VICE CHAIRPERSON KARR: AYE BOARD MEMBER POE: AYE MOTION CARRIED. .:..:. AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING REGULAR AGENDA ITEM WAS DISCUSSED AS DOCUMENTED FOLLOWED BY THE REST OF THE AGENDA. .:. .:. IV. REGULAR AGENDA REGULAR Community Development Department - Planning Division A. Requests The Planning And Zoning Board Recommend Approval Of The Final SubdivisionlEngineering Plans For The Proposed Barclay Woods Townhouse Subdivision. Ms. Eloise Sahlstrom, AICP, ASLA, Senior Planner, Community Development Department introduced the Agenda Item. Discussion. CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS MINUTES PLANNING AND ZONING BOARDILOCAL PLANNING AGENCY REGULAR MEETING - APRIL 7, 2004 PAGE30F8 Ms. Sahlstrom stated that the property is zoned "C-I" and received approval previously for "Conditional Use" in order to be multi-family housing on 7.45 acres. Ms. Sahlstrom said, "The existing site is quite wooded. There's quite a few specimen trees in there. There is actually twenty-six (26) specimen trees and the applicant is proposing to retain eleven (11) of those trees." Discussion. Ms. Sahlstrom pointed out that the Applicant submitted a Development Agreement that will be reviewed by the City Commission and some of the items are Variances from the Code. Ms. Sahlstrom said, "This interior street will be a private street so it will not be constructed according to the Code requirements for City streets. It will be a twenty-four foot (24') paved road and parking will be allowed on one side of that road. The setbacks from the roadway, because it is a private road, our setback standard is fifteen feet (15') from the right-of-way of the road. Since that road is [a] private road, they have not maintained that fifteen feet (15'), and - it is actually about nine foot (9') in this space between [the] edge of the sidewalk and the garage so one concern that Staff did have is that ifpeople were to park in their driveway they would block the sidewalk" Furthermore, Ms. Sahlstrom said, "Staff - is recommending approval of this project - was expedited to bring it to you tonight. We are recommending approval, however, there are a couple of things that we are asking with that approva1." Ms. Sahlstrom referred to the set of plans that includes a five foot (5') sidewalk along State Road 434 that meanders to avoid some specimen trees. Ms. Sahlstrom stated, "The set that we saw, DRC [Development Review Committee] did not have that and we did request that." Ms. Sahlstrom added, "Another change that Staff is requesting is that the internal sidewalk be changed to five feet (5') instead of what is shown as four feet (4'). Within the Code, four foot (4') sidewalk is permitted sidewalk width, but in the [State Road] 434 Corridor Overlay District which this is part of, sidewalks are required to be five feet (5') and in our Comp [Comprehensive] Plan we do address pedestrian circulation and vehicular circulation and the need for making sure that - that works well." Furthermore, Ms. Sahlstrom added, "We are also still concerned about the parking given that each unit will only have one (1) garage and given that the majority of the units will not be able to park in the driveway if they have a second car. Now, it is not the case with all of them. There are some of the units on the end that have an extended amount of driveway space where they could actually park in the driveway and not block the sidewalk It is a concern we have. We know it is going to be a concern that people complain about even if it is a private street because apparently Staff is getting a lot of complaints with Avery Park and that Development having limited space for additional cars to park" Lastly, Ms. Sahlstrom stated, "The applicant did try to address it with adding these additional parking spaces." Discussion. CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS MINUTES PLANNING AND ZONING BOARDILOCAL PLANNING AGENCY REGULAR MEETING - APRIL 7, 2004 PAGE40F8 Discussion ensued regarding the tree survey. Ms. Sahlstrom stated, "We have requested a full tree survey. Some of the tree survey of the area, - the trees were to be removed and they had been inventoried, but they were not shown on the plan. We have told them that they do need to show that and they are providing that to us." Ms. Sahlstrom stated, "We have checked to see that their proposed landscaping offsets the removal and so forth and - they have - a very fine landscape architect on their team and I have been impressed with the quality of his work and I can assure you that - we [Staff] are monitoring." Discussion. Chairperson Krebs opened the "Public Input" portion of this Agenda Item. Mr. Thomas Corkery, Resident/Developer, 759 Bear Creek Circle, Winter Springs, Florida: addressed the Board regarding the many projects he has been involved with locally and commented on how the City of Winter Springs accommodated him because of contractual restraints on the Barclay Townhouse project in regards to the Development Review Committee to meet the late April City Commission Meeting deadline. Mr. Corkery commented, "Staff was lovely to work with. They are strong, but they are fair and - you have a good, good staff here." "I know when - you talk about the Centex Community, that is not what I want to build, it is not what I plan." "1 built a private community here really to increase the value of these units. I have stone entrance features in the front of the project and as you come if) I built a retention pond that is 1.25 acres with a lake fountain right in the middle." Mr. Corkery stated, "Your Code requires me to build a minimum of a twenty foot (20 ') wide roadway network for the project. I chose to build twenty-four. 1 understand about emergency vehicles' access, parking, etc. I do want a pretty community. Our landscaping for our Townhouses is just as superb as it is for the project itself. It is a gorgeous landscaping plan and the last thing I am going to do in the City is get fined like Centex did down the road - I am certainly not going to do that. I am a pro-tree person, always have been. So that is what I have planned for this Community." Furthermore, Mr. Corkery said, "Now, as far as parking, - my Community is twenty-four foot (24') wide roads. If you park on one side of the road there is plenty of footage for any emergency vehicle, fire truck to get through. If you park on both sides - then you do have a problem and I do not want that problem. So that is why I decided they would only be allowed to park on one side of the road on a twenty-four foot (24 ') wide road. Our driveways are actually eighteen feet (18 ') long. The sidewalks, I cut down to four foot (4') wide from five foot (5'). So at the second DRC [Development Review Committee] Meeting, the Staff asked me if I could lengthen the driveway by three feet (3 '), which I did. A smaller driveway on a twenty four foot (24') wide road - I think if we had one side parking plus the nine (9) additional parking I am going to have here, it will limit the problems." Mr. Corkery, stated, "The Homeowner's Association will control the violations of the parking. CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS MINUTES PLANNING AND ZONING BOARDILOCAL PLANNING AGENCY REGULAR MEETING - APRIL 7. 2004 PAGE 5 OF 8 Mr. Corkery then spoke of Don King Concrete and said, "He likes my project very much." Referring to Ms. Sahlstrom's plans, Mr. Corkery said, "The Fire Marshall asked if we could have a second - to the property. So what we have done is put a secondary access - with Don King [Concrete] allowing us to give them - City of Winter Springs easement for that access if [we] ever need it. This side of our entrance of the property is really two (2) lanes so you can actually look at it as a three (3) lane entrance in and out of the property plus an extra emergency lane - for emergency vehicles to have access." Discussion ensued regarding the parking. Mr. David Evans, Engineer, Pecht-Evans Engineering, Inc., 501 E. Jackson Street, Suite 202, Orlando, Florida: briefly discussed the driveway and sidewalk dimensions. Board Member Poe stated, "And as I understand it, Eloise has requested that that sidewalk be enlarged to five feet (5') which is going to make it [ driveway] another foot shorter unless you go towards the curb." Mr. Evans said, "That is why we went with a four foot (4') in the first place." Mr. Corkery stated, "I will be very happy to - accommodate you and make this road twenty foot wide, which is your Code. I will give you the extra length that you want, that you are asking for - I do not think that is the wise thing to do." Discussion. There was no other Public Input. Tape 1/Side B Further discussion. Vice Chairperson Rosanne KaIT asked Ms. Sahlstrom, "Apparently, Staff is also concerned about the parking. Could you just go over with us Staffs concerns. Are they the same as ours? Have they any suggestions?" Ms. Sahlstrom responded, "We need to amend our Code to require two (2) car garages. Because in Winter Springs - suburban community we do not have light rail, we do not have mass transit and if you have two (2) adults, you are going to have two (2) cars." Much discussion. "I MOVE THAT WE RECOMMEND THIS PROJECT GIVEN THAT APPROPRIATE PARKING SPACES ARE MADE A V AILABLE BY WHATEVER MEANS. THIS PROJECT IS WELL WORTHWHILE, BUT NOT SATISFACTORY IN THE PARKING AREA." MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER POE. MOTION DIED FOR LACK OF A SECOND. CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS MINUTES PLANNING AND ZONING BOARDfLOCAL PLANNING AGENCY REGULAR MEETING - APRIL 7, 2004 PAGE60F8 Discussion. "I WILL MAKE THE MOTION FOR US TO APPROVE THE PROJECT AS FAR AS THE STRUCTURAL, LANDSCAPING AND EVERYTHING THAT IS ON IT. EXCEPTION NOT TO APPROVE THE STREETS AND THE PARKING PORTION OF IT TO LEAVE THAT FOR THE CITY COMMISSIONERS AND ATTORNEY TO LOOK INTO IT IF THERE IS ANY BETTER WAY OF DOING IT." MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER VOSKA. SECONDED BY VICE CHAIRPERSON KARR. DISCUSSION. "APPROVE THE FINAL - SUBDIVISION ENGINEERING PLAN FOR BARCLAY WOODS SUBJECT TO THE APPLICANT PROVIDING TWO (2) SPACES PER TOWNHOME PLUS ADDING THE FIVE FOOT (5') SIDEWALK- ALONG STATE 4 - OR TAKING OUT THE SIDEWALK AND JUST MAKING THE DRIVEWAYS LONGER - BUT THAT WOULD SATISFY ME FOR THE ADDITIONAL PARKING." SUBSTITUTE MOTION BY VICE CHAIRPERSON KARR. MOTION DIED FOR LACK OF A SECOND. DISCUSSION. THERE WAS A REQUEST FOR THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO BE RESTATED FOR CLARIFICATION. ASSISTANT TO THE CITY CLERK JOAN BROWN STATED, "MOTION TO APPROVE THE PROJECT..." CHAIRPERSON KREBS ADDED, ".. .EXCEPT FOR - TO TURN BACK IN THE PARKING ISSUE TO THE COMMISSION AND LET THEM DECIDE WHERE THEY WANTED TO GO WITH IT, AND THAT WAS SECONDED." DISCUSSION. VOTE: VICE CHAIRPERSON KARR: NAY BOARD MEMBER POE: NAY BOARD MEMBER VOSKA: AYE CHAIRPERSON KREBS: NAY MOTION DID NOT CARRY. Discussion. "I MOVE THAT WE RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF FINAL SITE PLANS OF THIS PROJECT IF THE DEVELOPER CAN MEET THE REQUIREMENT OF TWO (2) PARKING SPACES PER UNIT." MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER POE. SECONDED BY VICE CHAIRPERSON KARR. DISCUSSION. CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS MINUTES PLANNING AND ZONING BOARDfLOCAL PLANNING AGENCY REGULAR MEETING - APRIL 7,2004 PAGE70F8 VOTE: CHAIRPERSON KREBS: AYE BOARD MEMBER VOSKA: AYE BOARDMEMBERPOE: AYE VICE CHAIRPERSON KARR: AYE MOTION CARRIED. Tape 2/Side A III. INFORMATIONAL AGENDA ADD-ON INFORMATIONAL Community Development Department - Planning Division A. Presentation On The Religious Land Use And Institutionalized Persons Act Of 2000. Ms. Sahlstrom introduced the Agenda Item. Discussion. Vice Chairperson Karr asked Ms. Sahlstrom, "Can we get a copy of that [Religious Land Use And Institutionalized Act Of2000]?" Ms. Sahlstrom said, "Sure." Discussion. ADD-ON INFORMATIONAL Community Development Department - Planning Division B. Update On Annexations. Ms. Sahlstrom introduced the Agenda Item. Much discussion. v. REPORTS Vice Chairperson Karr asked Ms. Sahlstrom about the information on our history [City of Winter Springs] to pass on to the Museum in Sanford. Discussion. Discussion ensued on emails to City Staff. Vice Chairperson Karr said, "I take my kids to the park quite often. The last time we went to visit, there were obscenities written all over the playground and it was all over the bathroom. I reported it and I have not been back to that park yet, but I was wondering how often they check?" Ms. Sahlstrom said, "I have no idea. I would say contact Parks Department. Vice Chairperson Karr stated, "I did twice, almost three (3) times, I think." Ms. Sahlstrom said, "I do not know. I really can not answer that." Chairperson Krebs CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS MINUTES PLANNING AND ZONING BOARDILOCAL PLANNING AGENCY REGULAR MEETING - APRIL 7,2004 PAGE 8 OF 8 then stated, "You can always go to the [City] Commission." Ms. Sahlstrom stated, "Yes, and [City] Commission can direct the Park's Staff to clean it up or check it out." VI. ADJOURNMENT "I MOVE THAT WE ADJOURN." MOTION BY VICE CHAIRPERSON KARR. SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER POE. DISCUSSION. WITH THE CONSENSUS OF THE BOARD THE MOTION WAS APPROVED. MOTION CARRIED. Vice Chairperson Krebs adjourned the Meeting at 9:28 p.m. AN L. BROWN SSIST ANT TO THE CITY CLERK NNE KREBS, CHAIRPERSON ANNING AND ZONING BOARD/LOCAL PLANNING AGENCY NOTE: These Minutes were approved at thel\~ 5 ,2004 Planning And Zoning Board/Local Planning Agency Meeting.