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CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA
1126 EAST STATE ROAD 434
WINTER SPRINGS. FLORIDA 32708.2799
Telephone (407) 327.1800
Communily Development Dept.
Planning Division
PLANNING & ZONING BOARD / LOCAL PLANNING AGENCY
AGENDA ITEM
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APPROVAL OF THE JUNE 2, 1999 P&Z BOARDILP A
Submitted by: Andrea Lorenzo-Luaces
Interim City Clerk
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CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS
MINUTES
PLANNING AND ZONING BOARDILPA
REGULAR MEETING
JUNE 2, 1999
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I. CALL TO ORDER
The Planning And Zoning BoardlLPA meeting was called to order Wednesday, June 2,
1999 at 7:00 p.m. by Chairman Tom Brown in the Commission Chambers of the
Municipal Building (City Hall, 1126 East State Road 434, Winter Springs, Florida
32708). The Pledge of Allegiance followed.
Roll Call
Tom Brown, Chairman, present
Carl Stephens, Jr., Vice Chairman, present
Marc Clinch, present
Bill Fernandez, arrived at 7:01 p.m.
Rosanne Karr, present
Also l~resent
Thomas Grimms, AICP, Comprehensive Planning/Zoning Coordinator
Board Member Bi(( Fernandez arrived at 7:01 p.m.
Approval Of The May 19, 1999 Planning And Zoning Board/Local Planning
Agency Special Meeting Minutes
ON PAGE 5 OF THE MINUTES, SPECIFICALLY LINE 7, THE WORD
"SANFORD" SHOULD BE REPLACED BY THE WORD "SEMINOLE"
(WHICH REFLECTS THE CURRENT NAME OF THE NEWSPAPER THAT
WAS BEING DISCUSSED).
"MR. CHAIR, I WILL MOVE THAT THE MINUTES OF THE MAY 19, 1999
SPECIAL MEETING THAT WAS CIRCULATED BY MAIL, WITH THAT ONE
AMENDMENT, BE APPROVED". MOTION BY BILL FERNANDEZ.
SECONDED BY MARC CLINCH. DISCUSSION. THE MOTION TO ADOPT
THE MINUTES OF MAY 19, 1999 WAS APPROVED WITH CONSENSUS OF
THE BOARD. MOTION CARRIED.
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II. REGULAR AGENDA
A. Town Center Large Scale Comprehensive Plan Amendment to the Land
Use Element, Volume 2 0(2 Future Land Use Map (2010) (LG-CPA-I-99)
Mr. Thomas Grimms, AICP, Comprehensive Planning/Zoning Coordinator briefed the
Board on the Findings and the Recommendations from tonight's report.
There was discussion on Attachment "A" regarding a cut-off; the 240 acre parcel; and the
proposed area comprising the expanded Town Center.
The Board discussed potable and fe-use lines. Mr. Grimms agreed to change the double
reference involving the potable lines; and he agreed to change the reference to water lines
mentioned with sanitary lines. Mr. Grimms also agreed to amend the references to
endangered species, to include animals and fauna.
The Board next discussed whether borings or geotechnical reports were performed; if any
enclaves were being considered; suggestions of possible land speculation; the proximity
of the planned Town Center; wetlands; the closeness of the planned Town Center to Lake
Jessup; how the City's Comprehensive Plan is involved; the future of McDonald's; and
the current status of a new grocery store to be located in the Town Center.
The timeline and the Development of Regional Impact (DR!) was next discussed. Mr.
Grimms agreed to provide the Board with additional information regarding this.
Chairman Tom Brown asked Mr. Grimms, "For the record, bring us to date on some of
the lands - like with the map of the Kingsbury, the lands that were in the dotted line
section, as to their status". Chairman Brown then added, "The progress that he has made
for the record, in various areas and areas where he is working, and if there is any
infonnation on the overpass of the trail which is going to go across 434; if that is still a
possibility or what you do know about it. I think that would fill us in a little bit on some
of the questions".
Mr. Grimms and the Board further discussed individuals moving for the right price;
enclaves; the Dover Kohl study; the Kingsbury proPerty; and what other areas we would
like to consider for annexation.
Regarding the Trail, Mr. Grimms explained the funds that may be available for this
project; and that his understanding was that horses could traverse the overpass. There
were further comments about the Cross-Seminole Trail; the projected path; green spaces
that are interlocked into this plan; and the relationship to the planned Town Center.
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The Board and Mr. Grimms spoke of the public's preference to NOT have the typical
strip shopping centers in the city, and that the Commission has responded accordingly.
They also diseussed the current public-private partnership that is currently going on,
Chairman Tom Brown then said to Mr. Grimms, "Again, for the record, and for our
information, even though we're not voting on the amendment for the amended second
phase. which could be - could you give us an overview. I know there was one - but for
the record, and for everyone on this Board, so that we know that they have heard it, I
would also appreciate it if you would give us an overview on the other area - for
information purposes".
Mr. Grimms further explained an Agreement involving the Casscells Trust in relation to
the GreeneWay Interchange District. There was further discussion on the "expanded
town center":, and what it might encompass. Discussion.
Chairman Brown next stated, "For the record again, I'd like to get' it into the record, I
think there's a lot of great opportunities here, that's being missed. A few years ago,
matter of fact, about five or six years ago, I had written a lot of articles to vari,ous people
to try and get the trail to be a Trolley, and now - it would have taken the kids to the high
school - it would have taken the children to the Tuscawilla area, it could have ran down
the middle of 434 and 17-92 and it could eliminate a lot of school bussing, and of course,
we would not have a trail, we'd have a trolley. But, now with this Town Center, I think it
was a good idea, now, and in hind sight, I think it was a tremendous idea I had, even
though no one picked it up and pursued it".
Chairman Brown further spoke about diggings in the area, and he suggested that some
type of historical type of building for historical items should be included in the area, He
asked that Mr. Joshi (of Joshi and Associates) be informed of this. Discussion,
The Board further discussed preserving nature; that the shores of Lake Jessup should not
be blocked from the general public; environmentally sensitive land; preserving Lake
Jessup; and mitigation,
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"I WOULD MAKE A MOTION THAT THE LOCAL PLANNING AGENCY,
WEARING THAT HAT, RECOMMEND TO THE CITY COMMISSION THAT
THEY HOLD A FIRST TRANSMITTAL PUBLIC HEARING AND TRANSMIT
TO D.C.A. THE PROPOSED LARGE-SCALE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
AMENDMENT (LG-CPA-I-99), CREATING A NEW (FLUM) FUTURE LAND
USE MAP DESIGNATION CALLED THE "TOWN CENTER DISTRICT" IN
THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN LAND USE ELEMENT GOALS, OBJECTIVES,
AND POLICIES OF VOLUME 2 OF 2; 'AND FURTHER THAT THE CITY
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COMMISSION - WE RECOMMEND THEY HOLD A SECOND PUBLIC
HEARING, AFTER GETTING THE ORC REPORT FROM D.C.A. TO ADOPT
THE PLAN" THAT IS BASED UPON THE FINDINGS THAT HAVE BEEN
PROVIDED TO US, BY STAFF, IN THE REPORT, THAT PRECEEDED THE
STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS AND THE VARIOUS BULLET POINTS IN
THOSE FINDINGS OF ROMAN NUMERAL IV".
MOTION BY BILL FERNANDEZ. SECONDED BY ROSANNE KARR.
DISCUSSION. VOTE: CARL STEPHENS, JR.: AYE; MARC CLINCH: AYE;
BILL FERNANDEZ: AYE; ROSANNE KARR: AYE; TOM BROWN: AYE;
AYE. MOTION CARRIED.
III. FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS
· Discussion with Attorney Robert Guthrie on the Draft BylawslRules of
Procedure for the Planning & Zoning BoardlLP A.
. Elections
· Evaluation and Appraisal Report (EAR)
. Update on the Topical Index
In other discussion, Board Members Bill Fernandez and Carl Stephens, Jr. asked how one
can address the City Commission, (in this case, regarding Grizzly Park).
The Board also inquired if Moss Road might be extended southward, to the (new)
Seminola Boulevard. Mr. Grimms said that he would speak with Mr. Kip Lockcuff, the
City's Director of the Public Works Department, and Seminole County about this matter.
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IV. ADJOURNMENT
Chairman Brown adjourned the meeting at 8:16 p.m.
Minutes respectfu((y submitted by: Andrea Lorenzo-Luaces, Interim City Clerk
City of Winter Springs, Florida
APPROVE][);
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TOM BROW , 'c RMAN
PLANNING and ZONING BOARD/LPA
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DOCSlboards/planning/allllminutes/OG0299.doc
NOTE: These minutes were approved at the
, 1999 Planning And Zoning Board/LPA Meeting.