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FEBRUARY 12, 2007
CALL TO ORDER
The Regular Meeting of Monday, February 12,2007 of the City Commission was called
to Order by Mayor John F. Bush at 6:51 p.m. in the Commission Chambers of the
Municipal Building (City Hall, 1126 East State Road 434, Winter Springs, Florida
32708).
Roll Call:
Mayor John F. Bush, present
Deputy Mayor Sally McGinnis, present
Commissioner Robert S. Miller, present
Commissioner Rick Brown, present
Commissioner Donald A. Gilmore, present
Commissioner Joanne M. Krebs, present
City Manager Ronald W. McLemore, present
City Attorney Anthony A. Garganese, present
A moment of silence was held, followed by the Pledge of Allegiance led by Boy Scout
Troop 196.
Under Agenda Changes, Mayor Bush stated, "Regular Item number '309' is being
pulled. "
.:..:. AGENDA NOTE: AWARDS AND PRESENTATIONS WAS DISCUSSED
NEXT, FOLLOWED BY THE REST OF THE AGENDA, IN THE ORDER
DOCUMENTED. .:. .:.
AWARDS AND PRESENTATIONS
AWARDS AND PRESENT A nONS
100. Office Of The Mayor
Presentation Of Resolution Number 2007-01 Honoring Michael S. Blake For His
Distinguished Public Service And Contributions As A Member Of The City Of
Winter Springs City Commission.
Former Commissioner Michael S. Blake was honored with Resolution 2007-01 in honor
of his many contributions to the City.
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PUBLIC INPUT
Ms. Jan Mangoes, 704 Overlook Way, Winter Springs, Florida: suggested that a
Farmer's Market be held once a month, near the Winter Springs Town Center; and noted
that the community of Geneva was willing to share their Vendor List with our City; and
suggested a feasibility plan be done.
Ms. Denise Ryser, 1707 Littleton Court, Winter Springs, Florida: mentioned her written
presentation on the merits of a Farmer's Market being held in the City.
With discussion, Mayor Bush said, "I think Commissioners, this may be something we
take up under the Seats tonight."
Mr. David Birchell, 1121 Shadowbrook Trail, Winter Springs, Florida: suggested that
AFLAC be offered to City employees, alongside UNUM.
Brief discussion.
Ms. Phyliss Kent, 869 Leopard Trail, Winter Springs, Florida: spoke of a Petition to not
tear down the racquetball courts at Trotwood Park; spoke of the interest in the sport of
Lacrosse; and mentioned the need for a wall for bouncing the balls off of.
Ms. Connie Nadrowski, 915 Dyson Drive, Winter Springs, Florida: commented on
Traffic Calming for Dyson Drive.
Ms. Isabelle Laub, 1372 Blue Spruce Court, Winter Springs, Florida: noted her support
for Agenda Items "205" and "306".
Mr. Sam Bowman, 1366 Augusta National Boulevard, Winter Springs, Florida:
remarked about the proposed land-use change related to Agenda Item "310".
Mr. Stan Toledo, 1746 Seneca Boulevard, Winter Springs, Florida: owns property
adjacent to the Mann property and suggested that the driveway be shared.
Mr. Bob Rucci, 973 Turkey Hollow Circle, Winter Springs, Florida: spoke of the
upcoming "Hogs and Hounds Puppy Love Run" and asked if an Artist could be at the
March 12, 2007 City Commission Meeting to discuss the Artist possibly making puppy
statues which could bring in additional proceeds.
Mayor Bush said, "Under the Seats, we can discuss that in a little more detail."
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PUBLIC HEARINGS AGENDA
PUBLIC HEARINGS
200. Community Development Department - Planning Division And Office Of The
City Attorney
Request That The City Commission Hold A Public Hearing For Second Reading
And Adoption Of Ordinance 2006-12, Which Amends City Code Section 20-451.
Regarding Telecommunication Towers And Antennas.
City Attorney Anthony A. Garganese read the Ordinance by "Title" only.
Discussion.
Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
No one spoke.
Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
"MOTION TO APPROVE." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER
GILMORE. SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN : AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
201. Community Development Department - Planning Division
Requests The City Commission Conduct A Public Hearing For First Reading Of
Ordinance Number 2007-01, Annexing A Parcel Located At 282 West State Road
434, East Of Barrington Estates, Equaling Approximately 1.76 Acres And Owned
By Janet Mann.
Mayor Bush stated, "Can we have a Motion to read by 'Title' only?"
"SO MOVED." MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS. MAYOR BUSH
REMARKED, "SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER GILMORE." DISCUSSION.
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VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BROWN : AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Attorney Garganese read the Ordinance by "Title" only.
Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
Mr. Bob Connelly, 1518 Wescott Loop, Winter Springs, Florida: mentioned his property
being close to the subject property and noted the numerous kinds of uses that could be
used for the subject property.
Mr. Keith Fields, 1522 Wescott Loop, Winter Springs, Florida: agreed with the previous
speaker and mentioned a neighboring Church and a wooded property.
Mr. Jack Louise, 284 Geneva Drive, Oviedo, Florida: said he thought that the proposed
Annexation would be a great economic boost for Winter Springs.
Mr. Jeff Bloom, 1476 Wescott Loop, Winter Springs, Florida: as a member of the
neighboring church he wanted to know about the utilities.
Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
Ms. Eloise Sahlstrom, ASLA, AICP, Senior Planner, Community Development
Department addressed the City Commission.
Mr. John Baker, AICP, Senior Planner, Community Development Department also spoke
on this Agenda Item.
Discussion.
"MOTION TO MOVE TO SECOND READING." MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER KREBS. MAYOR BUSH STATED, "SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER BROWN." DISCUSSION.
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VOTE:
DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN : AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
202. Not Used.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
203. Community Development Department
Requests That The City Commission Hold A Public Hearing For The Aesthetic
Review Of The Proposed 57 Square Foot (10' 4" Wide X 5' 6.25" High) Non-
Illuminated Building Mounted Single Tenant Sign On One Side (The East Side; The
Side Facing Tuskawilla Road) Of The Building At 1401 Town Plaza Court (Lot 1 Of
Tuskawilla Office Park).
Mr. Baker then presented this Agenda Item.
Tape I/Side B
Discussion ensued
Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
Mr. Stan Toledo, 1746 Seneca Boulevard, Winter Springs, Florida: said he thought it
should be in Compliance with the existing signs.
Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
"I WILL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE DENY THE APPLICANT'S
REQUEST." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MILLER. SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER BROWN. DISCUSSION.
ATTORNEY GARGANESE ASKED, "YOUR MOTION TO DENY - WAS THAT
FOR ALL THE REASONS STATED IN THE STAFF REPORT?"
COMMISSIONER MILLER REMARKED, "YES."
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VOTE:
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
204. Community Development Department - Planning Division
Requests The City Commission Hold A Public Hearing To Consider Revisions To
The Aesthetic Review Of Building Number 4 In The Winter Springs Town Center
Located Along The West Side Of Tuskawilla Road Midway Between Tree Swallow
Drive And Blumberg Boulevard.
Mr. Randy Stevenson, ASLA, Director, Community Development Department spoke on
this and read a statement from the Agenda Item.
Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
Ms. M Rebecca Furman, Attorney, Lowndes Drosdick Doster Kantor & Reed, P.A., 215
North Eola Drive, Orlando, Florida: speaking on behalf of the James Doran Company,
Ms. Furman said they agreed with Staff's recommendations and spoke of the sight lines.
Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
Discussion.
"I WILL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE STAFF
RECOMMENDATIONS." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MILLER. MAYOR
BUSH NOTED, "SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER GILMORE." DISCUSSION.
MR. STEVENSON STATED, "WE WOULD HAVE THE ABILITY AT THE
STAFF LEVEL TO WORK OUT THE FINAL DETAILS FOR THE CORNICE
PIECE?" COMMISSIONER MILLER SAID, "YES."
VOTE:
DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN : AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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PUBLIC HEARINGS
205.1 Community Development Department - Planning Division - Parks And
Recreation Department
Requests The City Commission Hold A Public Hearing For The Aesthetic Review
Of The Expansion Of The Winter Springs Senior Center And Therapy Pool
Addition Located At 400 North Edgemon Avenue.
Mr. Stevenson presented this Agenda Item.
Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
No one spoke.
Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
Discussion.
"MOTION TO APPROVE." MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BROWN. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
205.2 Community Development Department
Requests The City Commission Consider The Final Engineering/Site Plan For
Phase I Of The Winter Springs Senior Center Pool Addition, Located At 400 North
Edgemon Avenue.
Mr. Stevenson introduced this Agenda Item by saying, "We coupled these together, this
is not a Public Hearing - this is the Final Engineering."
"MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM '205.2'." MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR
McGINNIS. MAYOR BUSH STATED, "SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER
BROWN." DISCUSSION.
COMMISSIONER MILLER SPOKE FOR THE RECORD ON HANDICAPPED
PARKING SPACES.
VOTE:
DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
REGULAR AGENDA
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300. Parks And Recreation Department
Requesting That The City Commission Approve Staff's Plan And Budgeted
Funding To Provide For The Staging, Lighting, Sound System, Entertainment,
Shuttle Buses, Winter Springs Idol Competition, And Other Associated Items For
The July 4, 2007, Celebration Of Freedom And Authorized The Expenditure Of Up
To $20,000.00 To American Audio For Staging, Speakers, Sound, Lights, Etc. And
Up To $20,000.00 To The Birchmore Group To Obtain Entertainment Services.
Discussion followed with Mr. Chuck Pula, Director, Parks and Recreation Department.
"MOTION TO APPROVE." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MILLER.
MAYOR BUSH STATED, "SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER GILMORE."
DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN : AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
REGULAR
301. Not Used.
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REGULAR
302. Office Of The Mayor
Requesting The City Commission To Authorize The City Manager To Prepare An
Updated Report On Options Available For Televising Commission Meetings.
City Manager Ronald W. McLemore introduced this Agenda Item and stated, "There are
some additional technologies out there that will allow us to do video streaming on the
Web and we're just asking you to allow us to go forward with that, examine that and
bring it back to you."
"MOTION TO APPROVE." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BROWN.
SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN : AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
REGULAR
303. Community Development Department
Requests The City Commission Consider The Proposed Buffer Wall (Between The
Rear Of The Site And The Adjacent Eagles Watch Phase II Residential Subdivision)
Modification For The Vistawilla Office Center, Located On The South Side Of State
Road 434, Just West Of The GreeneWay Interchange.
Mr. Baker presented his opening remarks on this Agenda Item.
Discussion.
Tape 2/Side A
Mr. Tom Corkery, 759 Bear Creek Circle, Winter Springs, Florida: addressed the City
Commission on this project.
Mr. Bill Walker, Barfield Fence and Wall, 2266 Clark Street, Apopka, Florida: said,
"My experience with the three (3) hurricanes that we took three (3) years ago that came
through - from a wind-load standpoint, we did not have any issues with our walls. All of
them are still standing today. We did have to do some repairs to some stucco where tree
limbs, things of that nature, fell on them.
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However, we had, at the time, we were also building and constructing your typical
masonry wall that is what the City would like to see. And we actually had more damage
to those walls because they would actually fold over and we would actually rebuild the
wall. So from a damage standpoint our experience has been with less damage to it. You
know, if you drive through it with a car, you're probably going to get about the same as
you do with a block wall."
Regarding the proposed walls, Commissioner Miller asked, "So there will be uprights
every..." Mr. Walker noted, ". ..Fifty feet (50')."
Manager McLemore noted, "The real issue of the engineering properties and how they
stand up over time and again, because we don't want to set a precedent for this, in all
cases where we - may really need brick or block, I would appreciate you making a
Finding - this is principal landscape purposes, which I think it is; which allows us room
to justify this not having to be one of a really - which intended to be a real structural
barrier for security purposes."
"WITH THE WORDING RECOMMENDED, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A
MOTION TO APPROVE." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BROWN.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER KREBS. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
REGULAR
304. Office Of The City Clerk
Requesting The City Commission To Approve Dates And Submitted Information
For This Year's Advisory Board And Committee Appreciation Dinner Which As In
Previous Years Will Honor The Individuals Who Serve Our Community As
Members Of The City's Advisory Boards And Committees. The City Commission
Has Requested That This Year, This Event Be Held At Yen Yen Restaurant, 855
East State Road 434, Winter Springs, Florida.
Discussion.
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"I MOVE THAT WE HAVE THIS YEAR'S ADVISORY BOARD DINNER AT
YEN YEN RESTAURANT ON SATURDAY, APRIL 21sT. I WOULD ALSO
ATTACH TO THAT NOT TO EXCEED A BUDGET OF SEVEN THOUSAND
DOLLARS ($7,000.00)." MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BROWN. DISCUSSION.
"I WILL ADD TO MOTION WITH A SECOND DATE OF APRIL 28TH
PROVIDED ANY COMMISSIONER CANNOT ATTEND THE ONE (1) ON THE
21 ST." MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS. SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER BROWN. DISCUSSION.
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN : AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
REGULAR
305. Public Works Department
Requesting The City Commission Set A Date For A Lake Jesup Workshop.
With discussion, Mayor Bush summarized, "April the 11th." Commissioner Krebs
suggested, "5:15 [p.m.]." Deputy Mayor McGinnis remarked, "Good." No objections
were voiced.
Mayor Bush called a Recess at 8:48 p.m.
The Regular Meeting was called back to Order at 8:59 p.m.
REGULAR
306. Public Works Department And Parks And Recreation Department
Requesting Authorization To Award the Contract For The Construction Of The
Senior Center Addition And Therapy To
Mr. Greg Bishop, Capital Projects Coordinator, Public Works Department spoke
regarding this Agenda Item.
Manager McLemore said, "What we need to do is go and give us authority to provide for
a Note, probably a fifteen (15) year Note. We'll try to look for a twenty (20) year Note
which is callable at any time, without a penalty; which will allow us the flexibility when
funds are available from Impact Fees and other sources to pay it off early and deal with
that annually on a budget-by-budget basis. That will allow us to go ahead and start the
construction right away.
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And I will tell you there are sufficient funds to payoff that Note. You'll have to re-
budget it every year, based on the balances due; but that will allow you to move ahead
quickly.
I need the authority to go ahead and negotiate the Note. You do not have to appropriate
any additional monies; we'll show you how to do that when we come back with the Note,
in order to get this thing rolling right away."
"I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE SO APPROVE." MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER BROWN. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER GILMORE.
DISCUSSION. MAYOR BUSH SAID, "MOTION THEN WOULD INCLUDE
GIVING THE MANAGER THE AUTHORITY TO - GET THE NOTE BUSINESS.
AND ALSO - APPROVING HIS BASE PLAN PLUS ALTERNATES 1,2 & 3,
RIGHT?" COMMISSIONER BROWN SAID, "YES."
MR. BISHOP SAID, "THERE'S TEN PERCENT (10%) CONTINGENCY."
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN : AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
REGULAR
307. Office Of The City Manager
Requesting The City Commission To Review A Request From Crown Castle
International To Amend The Revenue Share Agreement For The Cell Tower
Located At 411 Shore Road.
Mr. Kevin Smith, Director, General Services Department addressed the City Commission
regarding this agenda item.
"THAT IS ACTUALLY THE BASIS OF STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION AND
ALSO MY MOTION THAT WE AGREE WITH STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION
AND DO NOTHING NOW, UNTIL THEY COME BACK AND SEE US."
MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BROWN. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER
MILLER. DISCUSSION.
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VOTE:
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN : AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
REGULAR
308. Office Of The City Manager
Requesting The City Commission To Follow Up On Its Discussion Of City
Commission Meeting Times, And Agenda Organization.
"I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT AS SOON AS FEASIBLY
POSSIBLE WE MODIFY OUR START TIME FOR THE COMMISSION
MEETINGS TO 5:15 [P.M.] AND FOLLOW THE FOLLOWING AGENDA ITEM
ORDER, BEGINNING WITH CONSENT, GOING INTO INFO[RMATIONAL],
GOING INTO ANY AWARDS, FIFTEEN (15) MINUTE BREAK - AND THEN
PUBLIC INPUT AND REGULAR AGENDA, AND REPORTS." MAYOR BUSH
THEN SAID, "AND JUST ADD PUBLIC HEARINGS IN THERE." MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER BROWN.
DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS INQUIRED, "WILL THAT INCLUDE AN
EARLIER STOP TIME THEN? TEN O'CLOCK? DO YOU WANT TO
INCLUDE THAT?" COMMISSIONER BROWN STATED, "YES - WITH A
STOP TIME OF TEN O'CLOCK." SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER
GILMORE. DISCUSSION.
MAYOR BUSH THEN SAID, "START AT 5:15 [P.M.] - THE ORDER WOULD
BE CONSENT, INFORMATIONAL, AWARDS, FIFTEEN (15) MINUTE BREAK,
THE SEATS, PUBLIC HEARINGS, PUBLIC INPUT, REGULAR AGENDA."
COMMISSIONER BROWN REMARKED, "YES."
FURTHER DISCUSSION.
COMMISSIONER KREBS SAID TO COMMISSIONER BROWN "IF YOU
WOULD CHANGE YOUR ORDER TO START WITH THE
INFORMATIONAL AND THEN TO CONSENT, ONLY BECAUSE - MANY
TIMES WE PULL OFF ITEMS OFF OF CONSENT AND BY THAT TIME
POSSIBLY - MORE PEOPLE WOULD BE HERE..." COMMISSIONER
BROWN SAID, "...THAT IS FINE..." COMMISSIONER KREBS ADDED,
"...TO HEAR THAT." COMMISSIONER BROWN AGAIN NOTED, "THAT IS
FINE."
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MAYOR BUSH THEN NOTED, "SO THE CHANGE IS INFORMATIONAL
INSTEAD OF CONSENT FIRST. JUST REVERSE THOSE TWO (2)."
COMMISSIONER BROWN REMARKED, "YES."
CITY CLERK LORENZO-LUACES ASKED FOR CLARIFICATION - WHERE
WAS PUBLIC INPUT? MAYOR BUSH SAID, "PUBLIC INPUT WOULD BE
RIGHT AFTER THE SEATS." COMMISSIONER BROWN ADDED,
FOLLOWED BY PUBLIC HEARING AND THEN REGULAR AGENDA."
MAYOR BUSH NOTED, "PUBLIC INPUT, PUBLIC HEARINGS, REGULAR
AGENDA."
MANAGER McLEMORE SAID, "SO WE NEED TO BE OUT A COUPLE DAYS
BEFORE WE START THIS, MAYBE THIRTY (30) DAYS BECAUSE OF
ADVERTISING. SO WE START - FIRST MEETING IN MARCH."
Tape 2/Side B
MAYOR BUSH REMARKED, "I THINK STARTING THIS IN MARCH IS
PROBABLY A GOOD IDEA. SO IF THE COMMISSION HAS NO OBJECTION,
THIS WOULD TAKE EFFECT MARCH THE 12TH."
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BROWN : AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
REGULAR
309. Office Of The City Manager
Requesting The City Commission To Formalize Its Directives Related To Issues
That Arose During The City Commission Workshop Of February 5, 2007
Regarding The Revision And Update Of The City's Pension Plan Document.
As stated earlier in the Meeting, this Agenda Item was pulled.
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310. Community Development Department - Planning Division
Requests The City Commission Reconsider Its Directive To Staff To Proceed With
An Administrative Amendment During The Spring Comprehensive Plan
Amendment Cycle Changing The Future Land Use (FLU) Designation To (Winter
Springs) "Rural Residential" (Max Of 1.0 DU Per Acre) On The Weaver Property,
Given The Re-Application And Attached Letter From Mr. Sam Bowman Of
Embassy Homes Indicating His Willingness To Bind The Property To No More
Than 2.25 Dwelling Units Per Gross Acre.
Ms. Sahlstrom addressed the City Commission regarding this Agenda Item.
Mr. Sam Bowman, 1366 Augusta National Boulevard, Winter Springs, Florida: said,
"There is approximately 30 - 35,000) square feet of industrial buildings. I don't know
how many thousands of square feet there are of outside area that people in the City have
referred to as junk - there's trailers out there. There's some outside storage, there's some
dump trucks in that area. Weare proposing to remove all of it. There will not be any
industrial, commercial component or activity on this property when we're done. We
would like to build a gated community. We would like to build somewhere in the low
fifties (50's) as far as homes in there. We have done a Traffic Study for our previous
application to you. It reveals an insignificant increase in traffic than exists today."
Continuing, Mr. Bowman stated, "In addition to the Black Hammock Homeowner's
Association, via Jim Logue - we have also met with Robert King. We have also met
with the District Commissioner - County Commissioner Mike McLean. We have met
with the Barrington Homeowner's Association President. We have incorporated virtually
all of their requests or suggestions, as Eloise (Sahlstrom) said, except one (1). They
wanted us to have our access through Barrington Estates. It's impossible.
Their Homeowner's Association has already established and it precludes us from entering
and exiting through there. We just virtually don't have any opposition to it. We haven't
entered opposition until this Commission Meeting in October where it was alluded to that
there might have been a restriction on the property when it was annexed. And that
restriction was one (1) unit to the acre. It's on the tapes; it really was said at that
Meeting. We researched very thoroughly after the Meeting and there were no
restrictions. The owner of the property, Donald Weaver, remembers no restrictions on the
property.
I think this is a unique opportunity to have a development that is a good situation for the
City; it's a good situation for the area around the City; the residents of Oviedo; it's a
good situation for the residents of Seminole County. As has been expressed by the Black
Hammock Homeowner's Association and the Friends of Lake Jesup. It's really a great
situation to remove the - as Eloise (Sahlstrom) said, the Non-Conforming Use or the
Industrial and Commercial component, off of this property."
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Discussion.
"MOTION TO TABLE". MOTION BY COMMISSIONER KREBS.
MOTION DIED FOR LACK OF A SECOND.
MOTION THAT WE DENY THE REQUEST." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER
MILLER. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BROWN. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN : AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
.:..:. AGENDA NOTE: CONSENT AGENDA ITEM "400" WAS DISCUSSED
NEXT AS AN INDIVIDUAL AGENDA ITEM, FOLLOWED BY THE REST OF
THE AGENDA, AS NOTED. .:. .:.
CONSENT AGENDA
CONSENT
400. Public Works Department
Requests The City Commission Validate The Staff Recommendation Finding IDC
Town Center Phase I Expansion (Buildings 3, 4, And 16) To Be Built In Substantial
Accordance With The Final Engineering Plans.
This Agenda Item was discussed next as a separate Agenda Item.
Tape 3/Side A
"MOTION TO APPROVE WITH THE CHANGE." MAYOR BUSH
REMARKED, "MOTION BY COMMISSIONER KREBS WITH THE ONE (1)
CHANGE." SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MILLER. DISCUSSION.
AS NOTED UNDER "RECOMMENDED CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL:",
MAYOR BUSH ADDED "AND THAT CHANGE IS ON ITEM 3), STRIKING 4
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VOTE:
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN : AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
CONSENT AGENDA
CONSENT
401. Information Services Department
Requests Authorization To Purchase Cisco Equipment For The New Public Works
Facility In The Amount Of $19,686.00 (Already Budgeted).
There was no discussion on this Agenda Item.
CONSENT
402. Community Development Department
Requests That The City Commission Review And Approve The Application Of The
Three (3) Contractors To Perform The Home Refurbishing Work Associated With
The Home Again - Florida Housing Finance Corporation Disaster Relief Home
Assistance Program.
No discussion.
CONSENT
403. Information Services Department
Requests Authorization To Contract With Orlando Business Telephone System For
Phase II Telephone System Install At The New Public Works Facility In The
Amount Of $3,368.00 (Already Budgeted).
This Agenda Item was not discussed.
CONSENT
404. Information Services Department
Requests Authorization To Dispose Of Surplus Assets According To The Attached
Disposition Sheets.
There was no discussion on this Agenda Item.
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CONSENT
405. Office Of The City Attorney
Approve Resolution 2007-08 RestatiIlg The City Commission's Support For The
Public Conservation Easement overtnd Under The Land Commonly Known As
The Winter Springs Golf Course. J
No discussion.
CONSENT
406. Public Works Department
Requests The City Commission Validate The Staff Recommendation Finding Miller
School Supply To Be Built In Substantial Accordance With The Final Engineering
Plans.
This Agenda Item was not discussed.
CONSENT
407. Public Works Department
Requesting Authorization To Purchase Three Vehicle Lifts For The New Public
Works Facility Garage.
There was no discussion on this Agenda Item.
CONSENT
408. Office Of The City Manager
The City Manager Is Requesting That The City Commission Authorize A
Supplemental Appropriation In The Amount Of $5,000.00 From The General Fund
To Replenish Several Line Codes For This Fiscal Year.
No discussion.
CONSENT
409. Office Of The City Clerk
Requesting Official Approval Of The November 16, 2006 City Commission
Workshop Minutes.
This Agenda Item was not discussed.
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CONSENT
410. Office Of The City Clerk
Requesting Re-Approval Of The November 20, 2006 Special City Commission
Meeting Minutes.
There was no discussion on this Agenda Item.
CONSENT
411. Office Of The City Clerk
Requesting Approval Of The January 22, 2007 Discussion Of The Winter Springs
Golf Course Summary.
No discussion.
CONSENT
412. Office Of The City Clerk
Requesting Approval Of The January 22, 2007 Regular City Commission Meeting
Minutes.
This Agenda Item was not discussed.
CONSENT
413. Office Of The City Clerk
Requesting Approval Of The January 29, 2007 City Commission Workshop
Minutes.
There was no discussion on this Agenda Item.
CONSENT
414. Office Of The City Attorney
Requesting That The City Commission Consider Approving A Mediated Settlement
Agreement In The Case "Roy v. City Of Winter Springs, Florida Power And Light
And Seville Chase Homeowners Association."
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CONSENT
415. Office Of The Ciry Clerk
Requesting Approval Of The January 30, 2007 City Commission Workshop
Minutes.
This Agenda Item was not discussed.
CONSENT
416. Office Of The City Clerk
Requesting Approval Of The January 31, 2007 Discussion On Video Taping City
Commission Meetings Summary.
There was no discussion onthis Agenda Item.
"MOTION TO APPROVE" (CONSENT AGENDA 401 - 416). MOTION BY
DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS. MAYOR BUSH STATED, "SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER GILMORE." DISCUSSION.
COMMISSIONER BROWN : AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
INFORMATIONAL AGENDA
INFORMATIONAL
500. Community Development Department
Advising The City Commission Of The Status Of Various Current Planning
Projects.
This Agenda Item was not discussed.
INFORMATIONAL
501. Parks And Recreation Department
Notifying The City Commission Of The Status Of The Florida Recreational
Development Assistance Program Grant Regarding Central Winds Park.
No discussion.
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INFORMATIONAL
502. Public Works Department
Advising The City Commission Of The Status Of Various Capital Improvement
Projects.
There was no discussion on this Agenda Item.
INFORMATIONAL
503. Community Development Department - Planning Division
Wishes To Update The City Commission On The Open Space Advisory Study
Committee.
This Agenda Item was not discussed.
"MOTION TO APPROVE." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER GILMORE.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER KREBS. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN : AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
REPORTS
REPORTS
600. Office Of The City Attorney - Anthony A. Garganese, Esquire
No Report.
REPORTS
601. Office Of The City Manager - Ronald W. McLemore
Manager McLemore said, "In regards to the Tuskawilla Trails issue - we have met with
the Property Manager from the Tuskawilla Trails. We have worked out a solution that
we also communicated to Jesup's Reserve. I don't know if they're okay with it or if
we've had any feed back yet - no feedback yet.
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What it provides for is that the fence would be within the twenty-five foot (25') boundary
on their property. Jesup's Reserve would pay fifty percent (50%) of that cost. They
would pay fifty percent (50%) of that cost. And we would continue to have some
landscaping along the right-of-way, on the Jesup's Reserve side. And I think that was
basically it. I think it was a pretty good approach; and we're just waiting for word back
from Jesup's Reserve."
Mayor Bush said, "This has been shared with Mr. Mirand who have been representing the
Tuska Trails people? And so, Ron (McLemore) you might want to give him a call or just
keep him in the loop." Manager McLemore stated, "Yes, I would like to touch base with
him as soon as we hear back from Jesup's Reserve.
REPORTS
602. Office Of The City Clerk - Andrea Lorenzo-Luaces, CMC
No Report.
REPORTS
603. Office Of The Mayor - John F. Bush
Mayor Bush asked about the handball courts being tom down in Tuskawilla Trails.
Discussion.
Mayor Bush said, "Commissioners, I have given you two (2) Resolutions to look over.
Both of them from the Florida League of Cities. One (1) is - concerning Affordable
Housing. The other one is on the League's Legislative priorities." Mayor Bush
suggested, "Take a look at them before our next Meeting and see if we can get those -
and one (1) of those needs to go to the Legislature before the Legislative [Action] Day."
Mayor Bush said, "I would like to see the Commission take a look at our water billing
procedures - especially our policy on cutting people off." Mayor Bush added, "If we
need to do software to track things, I think we should get it. I think we should take a
look at that unless you're all happy with it. I am not happy with it. I don't think it's, I
don't think its fair and the way our Code is written, Staff has no alternative, but to
force it just as it is written - which gives them no flexibility. "
Deputy Mayor McGinnis said, "In addition to that, we had a study done. George
Colombo did an analysis of that Department, I believe." Manager McLemore said,
"Well, actually we have." Deputy Mayor McGinnis said, "Within the last year."
Manager McLemore said, "Oh yes, we followed through on all that."
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Deputy Mayor McGinnis continued, "We never got a Report. We never saw it."
Manager McLemore said, "I can get you copies of it." Deputy Mayor McGinnis said,
"I would be interested in what some of his recommendations were because I think one
(1) of them was to empower Staff to make some decisions, but..." Manager McLemore
said, "...Right with some discretion, but not a lot of discretion."
Manager McLemore said, "I'd suggest we Agenda this for the next Meeting or a
Meeting thereafter; and we made suggestions to you all before, that were turned down
and we need to revisit those, I think. "
Mayor Bush asked, "Is the Commission in agreement that this should be an Agenda
Item?" Deputy Mayor McGinnis said, "Absolutely." Commissioner Brown said,
"Yes." Commissioner Gilmore said, "It should be an Agenda or maybe even a
Workshop." Deputy Mayor McGinnis said, "I don't think it needs to be."
Manager McLemore said, "No, I don't think so. I think if you all just approve the things
we brought to you before we could make a huge dent in the problem." Mayor Bush said,
"Ron (McLemore), why don't you and Staff put it together and then why don't you take a
look at it." Manager McLemore replied, "Well, we'll start there and if looks like it's
going too big we can revert to a Workshop." Mayor Bush said, "Okay. Good."
Mr. Bob Rucci, 973 Turkey Hollow Circle, Winter Springs, Florida: mentioned again
that he had spoken with a local Artist who offered to make some dog statues for the Dog
Park and thought that some extra funds could be made through such a venture.
Continuing, Mr. Rucci stated, "We might be able to donate enough money to her to take
and bring this to fruition for you. I don't know that from this particular event that we're
running this coming Sunday, if we're going to make enough to cover her entire cost for
doing this. In fact, I don't know what her entire costs are. I just want to get her on the
Agenda for March lih, [2007] to have her show you what types of things she has in
mind. You can give her an up or down Vote as to whether or not you want that type of
stuff and at that point - I will know whether or not we have money to supply it to you
from the Run. It may be totally free of charge. And even though it's free of charge, you
may not want it."
Mayor Bush asked, "Bob (Rucci), can you and this lady meet with Mr. McLemore and
decide then how this should look as an Agenda Item." Mr. Rucci then said to Manager
McLemore, "I'll give you a call in the morning." Manager McLemore said, "Okay."
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Mayor Bush said, "The Farmers Market, which we heard the presentation on tonight.
Where do you want to go with this? You know, there'd be some City involvement here,
closing the street. Security, etc, etc. This goes along with getting activities into the Town
Center. "
Commissioner Brown said, "When you look at - what goes on in Winter Park every
Saturday, 1 think it's a huge ad for our community if we can pull this off successfully - 1
don't know whether it's a workshop item that we can lay all the pieces in place or
whether it's just something we ask Staff to go do and to come back with a proposal on
how it should be set up and how it should be run."
Manager McLemore said, "1 would like to follow that route. Let us analyze it, meet with
her, and analyze it and bring it back to you in a discussion format." Deputy Mayor
McGinnis said, "Good."
Commissioner Krebs said, "1 think it is a good idea to investigate and research. One thing
that 1 would like to recommend is that if we decide that we want to do this, that we
include the James Doran Company. And what is going on in - the area of the Town
Center. Maybe they can either get involved or offer parking areas, etc, etc."
Mayor Bush said, "So Manager McLemore will take that under advisement as well."
Next, Mayor Bush then gave an update on the Driver's Education program.
Mayor Bush said, "Tomorrow, the County Commission - Chairman Henley asked me to
come and speak about - in the CRA district, the property there on 17-92; it came before
our Commission on August the 14th, 2006. And this has to do with a building there, and 1
believe what the County's going to ask them to do is to go up to a higher stories, three (3)
to five (5), which is what we recommended to Mr. Reese, who is the Property Owner."
Mayor Bush then read an excerpt from our August the 14th, 2006 City Commission
Minutes and noted, "Since this was the Motion was approved by the Commission, if you
have no objection, 1 will probably share this at the County Commission Meeting."
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Discussion On Public Input
This issue was not discussed.
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REPORTS
604. Commission Seat One - Robert S. Miller
Commissioner Miller brought up the Greene W ay and asked, "Can we file a City lawsuit
against the Expressway Authority on behalf of the citizens of the City? - Every resident
of our City who goes to Oviedo on the GreeneWay gives the GreeneWay authority thirty-
five (35) cents for free. It's just, they're not entitled to it. By law, their not entitled to take
it. And by law they should give it back to us."
With discussion, Mayor Bush said, "So, the question is Anthony (Garganese), do we have
any recourse legally, is Commissioner Miller's question."
Commissioner Miller then suggested that a letter be sent.
Attorney Garganese said, "I could do some preliminary research on their rate making
authority." Attorney Garganese added, "If you want to know preliminarily what their
rate making authority is, I could certainly get that back to you." Further discussion.
REPORTS
605. Commissioner Seat Two - Rick Brown
Commissioner Brown remarked for the Record about his personal support for Agenda
Item '405'."
Discussion ensued on Lacrosse fields and the schedule for Jetta Park.
The Badcock Center parking lot was brought up next with discussion.
Commissioner Brown said, "I would like to at some point, have a larger discussion on
our Benefits program. We had one (1) of our local business owners speak to us about the
AFLAC offering and I wasn't here at the time, but 1'd be interested at some point in a
discussion about how the Commission voted for having a restrictive policy or a limiting
policy when it comes to benefits that maybe offered to the employees. AFLAC is a
national - international entity and I know we use them in our company and it seems to be
something that a lot of people take advantage of especially in hourly positions to augment
their benefits coverage and - I would be curious to have a deeper conversation on that."
Manager McLemore said "Sure."
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REPORTS
606. Commission Seat Three - Donald A. Gilmore
Commissioner Gilmore first spoke on walls.
Sink holes and related cavities and where homes are being built was brought up next.
On the Trotwood Park noise and headlight issue, Commissioner Gilmore said, "In our
discussions, 1 know 1 had asked - that if we could not come up with a standard acceptable
whistle that everybody would use - has anything been looked at one that?"
With discussion, Manager McLemore asked, "Do we have a Consensus on that one."
Mayor Bush asked, "What are we going to do about the whistles?" Commissioner Brown
stated, "They have got to have them." Commissioner Krebs said, "I say whistles."
Commissioner Gilmore said, "I say whistles; but 1 still say a reasonable whistle and let
them all use the same thing."
Mayor Bush said, "I think that the issue is being respectful of the people in terms of the
hours of operation. That is what it is." Deputy Mayor McGinnis commented, "I think so
too."
REPORTS
607. Commission Seat Four/Deputy Mayor - Sally McGinnis
Deputy Mayor McGinnis mentioned page 47 of the Quality Cities magazine, and spoke
of some "Alternative employee benefit programs". Deputy Mayor McGinnis added, "I
think these are some things that we might want to look at. I would ask you to read the
article, if you haven't Ron (McLemore), everybody else read it." Deputy Mayor
McGinnis said, "I thought it was worth looking into. I would like to have some
feedback on it. Maybe you don't..." Manager McLemore said, ".oo We can call the
cities and see what they're doing."
Manager McLemore said, "I need to see if there's a Consensus of the Commission on
that." Mayor Bush asked, "Is there a Consensus to have the Manager follow up on
this?" Commissioner Brown said, "Yes, why not." Commissioner Gilmore said, "I
don't know." Mayor Bush said, "Well, we have three (3) who agree, Miller, Brown. "
Commissioner Krebs said, "I would rather see us maybe spend, if we're going to spend
money, spend money on taking care of Compression and things like that." Mayor
Bush said, "Well, I think the Consensus was to have the Manager talk to these other
cities. It wasn't to do anything else." Commissioner Brown said, "I would like to see
the positive result on the bottom line by having healthier employees and what it
actually saves the City in health care payments. "
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REPORTS
608. Commission Seat Five - Joanne M. Krebs
Commissioner Krebs mentioned there was no nameplate on the dais for the City Clerk.
Mayor Bush said, "We'll get you a nameplate Andrea (Lorenzo-Luaces, City Clerk)."
.:..:. AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING ADDITIONAL REPORTS WERE
DISCUSSED NEXT, IN THE ORDER DOCUMENTED. .:. .:.
REPORTS
REPORTS
603. Office Of The Mayor-John F. Bush
Discussion ensued on the State Road 434 cuts and the Bruster's project.
Winter Springs Boulevard was brought up next, to which Mr. Brian Fields, P.E., City
Engineer, Public Works Department said, "We tested it. We found about twenty (20)
locations that were out of spec, out of tolerance as far as following - walk through
tomorrow to go over that. The mitigating action hasn't been decided yet.
But we did identify deficiencies in our post construction tests that we're working with the
contractor on what to do."
Mayor Bush asked, "Well, are we going to have this resolved before we do the rest of it?"
Mr. Fields replied, "Yes, we're going to have it resolved very soon. The current phase is
complete. The question is what to do about the areas that are deficient in the current
phase." Mayor Bush asked, "Will you keep us informed because we're getting questions
about it?" Mr. Fields said, "Yes."
Mayor Bush said, "I've had a couple of requests for a stop sign at the exit of the
[Tuscawilla] Country Club on Tuscora [Drive]."
Tape 3/Side B
Mr. Fields said, "The volumes there really don't warrant a three (3) way stop. We can
look at it more specifically in terms if there is a safety situation with sight distance."
Mayor Bush said, "I think it has more to do with the sight because of the landscaping and
the cars are coming up a hill." Mr. Fields added, "We could look at it."
Commissioner Gilmore said, "I would like to comment on that. It is worse coming from
Tuscora [Drive], and going across. And if you look to the west, you really can't hardly
tell if somebody's coming. But it's worse out of Tuscora [Drive] where there is a stop
sign."
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REPORTS
601. Office Of The City Manager - Ronald W. McLemore
Manager McLemore stated, "1 had asked for a Special Meeting with you on the
Pension issues."
With further discussion, Commissioner Krebs suggested, "How about the fjh {of
March). Commissioner Miller remarked, "Fine with me." No Commissioners
objected. Mayor Bush summarized that this Special Meeting would be held, "5:15
{p.m.) on {Friday) the fjh {of March)."
ADJOURNMENT
Mayor Bush adjourned the Regular Meeting at 11 :04 p.m.
RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED:
DANIELLE HARKER, ASSISTANT TO THE CITY CLERK AND
ANDREA LORENZO-LUACES, CMC
CITY CLERK
APPROVED:
JOHN F. BUSH
MAYOR
NOTE: These Minutes were approved at the
, 2007 Regular City Commission Meeting.
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CALL TO ORDER
The Regular Meeting of Monday, February 12, 2007 of the City Commission was called
to Order by Mayor John F. Bush at 6:51 p.m. in the Commission Chambers of the
Municipal Building (City Hall, 1126 East State Road 434, Winter Springs, Florida
32708).
Roll Call:
Mayor John F. Bush, present
Deputy Mayor Sally McGinnis, present
Commissioner Robert S. Miller, present
Commissioner Rick Brown, present
Commissioner Donald A. Gilmore, present
Commissioner Joanne M. Krebs, present
City Manager Ronald W. McLemore, present
City Attorney Anthony A. Garganese, present
A moment of silence was held, followed by the Pledge of Allegiance led by Boy Scout
Troop 196.
Under Agenda Changes, Mayor Bush stated, "Regular Item number '309' is being
pulled. "
.:..:. AGENDA NOTE: AWARDS AND PRESENTATIONS WAS DISCUSSED
NEXT, FOLLOWED BY THE REST OF THE AGENDA, IN THE ORDER
DOCUMENTED. .:. .:.
AWARDS AND PRESENTATIONS
AWARDS AND PRESENTATIONS
100. Office Of The Mayor
Presentation Of Resolution Number 2007-01 Honoring Michael S. Blake For His
Distinguished Public Service And Contributions As A Member Of The City Of
Winter Springs City Commission.
Former Commissioner Michael S. Blake was honored with Resolution 2007-01 in honor
of his many contributions to the City.
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PUBLIC INPUT
Ms. Jan Mangoes, 704 Overlook Way, Winter Springs, Florida: suggested that a
Farmer's Market be held once a month, near the Winter Springs Town Center; and noted
that the community of Geneva was willing to share their Vendor List with our City; and
suggested a feasibility plan be done.
Ms. Denise Ryser, 1707 Littleton Court, Winter Springs, Florida: mentioned her written
presentation on the merits of a Farmer's Market being held in the City.
With discussion, Mayor Bush said, "1 think Commissioners, this may be something we
take up under the Seats tonight."
Mr. David Birchell, 1121 Shadow brook Trail, Winter Springs, Florida: suggested that
AFLAC be offered to City employees, alongside UNUM.
Brief discussion.
Ms. Phyliss Kent, 869 Leopard Trail, Winter Springs, Florida: spoke of a Petition to not
tear down the racquetball courts at Trotwood Park; spoke of the interest in the sport of
Lacrosse; and mentioned the need for a wall for bouncing the balls off of.
Ms. Connie Nadrowski, 915 Dyson Drive, Winter Springs, Florida: commented on
Traffic Calming for Dyson Drive.
Ms. Isabelle Laub, 1372 Blue Spruce Court, Winter Springs, Florida: noted her support
for Agenda Items "205" and "306".
Mr. Sam Bowman, 1366 Augusta National Boulevard, Winter Springs, Florida:
remarked about the proposed land-use change related to Agenda Item "310".
Mr. Stan Toledo, 1746 Seneca Boulevard, Winter Springs, Florida: owns property
adjacent to the Mann property and suggested that the driveway be shared.
Mr. Bob Rucci, 973 Turkey Hollow Circle, Winter Springs, Florida: spoke of the
upcoming "Hogs and Hounds Puppy Love Run" and asked if an Artist could be at the
March 12, 2007 City Commission Meeting to discuss the Artist possibly making puppy
statues which could bring in additional proceeds.
Mayor Bush said, "Under the Seats, we can discuss that in a little more detail."
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PUBLIC HEARINGS AGENDA
PUBLIC HEARINGS
200. Community Development Department - Planning Division And Office Of The
City Attorney
Request That The City Commission Hold A Public Hearing For Second Reading
And Adoption Of Ordinance 2006-12, Which Amends City Code Section 20-451.
Regarding Telecommunication Towers And Antennas.
City Attorney Anthony A. Garganese read the Ordinance by "Title" only.
Discussion.
Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
No one spoke.
Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
"MOTION TO APPROVE." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER
GILMORE. SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
201. Community Development Department - Planning Division
Requests The City Commission Conduct A Public Hearing For First Reading Of
Ordinance Number 2007-01, Annexing A Parcel Located At 282 West State Road
434, East Of Barrington Estates, Equaling Approximately 1.76 Acres And Owned
By Janet Mann.
Mayor Bush stated, "Can we have a Motion to read by 'Title' only?"
"SO MOVED." MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS. MAYOR BUSH
REMARKED, "SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER GILMORE." DISCUSSION.
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VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BROWN : AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Attorney Garganese read the Ordinance by "Title" only.
Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
Mr. Bob Connelly, 1518 Wescott Loop, Winter Springs, Florida: mentioned his property
being close to the subject property and noted the numerous kinds of uses that could be
used for the subject property.
Mr. Keith Fields, 1522 Wescott Loop, Winter Springs, Florida: agreed with the previous
speaker and mentioned a neighboring Church and a wooded property.
Mr. Jack Louise, 284 Geneva Drive, Oviedo, Florida: said he thought that the proposed
Annexation would be a great economic boost for Winter Springs.
Mr. Jeff Bloom, 1476 Wescott Loop, Winter Springs, Florida: as a member of the
neighboring church he wanted to know about the utilities.
Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
Ms. Eloise Sahlstrom, ASLA, AICP, Senior Planner, Community Development
Department addressed the City Commission.
Mr. John Baker, AICP, Senior Planner, Community Development Department also spoke
on this Agenda Item.
Discussion.
"MOTION TO MOVE TO SECOND READING." MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER KREBS. MAYOR BUSH STATED, "SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER BROWN." DISCUSSION.
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VOTE:
DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
202. Not Used.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
203. Community Development Department
Requests That The City Commission Hold A Public Hearing For The Aesthetic
Review Of The Proposed 57 Square Foot (10' 4" Wide X 5' 6.25" High) Non-
Illuminated Building Mounted Single Tenant Sign On One Side (The East Side; The
Side Facing Tuskawilla Road) Of The Building At 1401 Town Plaza Court (Lot 1 Of
Tuskawilla Office Park).
Mr. Baker then presented this Agenda Item.
Tape I1Side B
Discussion ensued
Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
Mr. Stan Toledo, 1746 Seneca Boulevard, Winter Springs, Florida: said he thought it
should be in Compliance with the existing signs.
Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
"I WILL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE DENY THE APPLICANT'S
REQUEST." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MILLER. SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER BROWN. DISCUSSION.
ATTORNEY GARGANESE ASKED, "YOUR MOTION TO DENY - WAS THAT
FOR ALL THE REASONS STATED IN THE STAFF REPORT?"
COMMISSIONER MILLER REMARKED, "YES."
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VOTE:
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
204. Community Development Department - Planning Division
Requests The City Commission Hold A Public Hearing To Consider Revisions To
The Aesthetic Review Of Building Number 4 In The Winter Springs Town Center
Located Along The West Side Of Tuskawilla Road Midway Between Tree Swallow
Drive And Blumberg Boulevard.
Mr. Randy Stevenson, ASLA, Director, Community Development Department spoke on
this and read a statement from the Agenda Item.
Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
Ms. M Rebecca Furman, Attorney, Lowndes Drosdick Doster Kantor & Reed, P.A., 215
North Eola Drive, Orlando, Florida: speaking on behalf of the James Doran Company,
Ms. Furman said they agreed with Staff's recommendations and spoke of the sight lines.
Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
Discussion.
"I WILL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE STAFF
RECOMMENDATIONS." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MILLER. MAYOR
BUSH NOTED, "SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER GILMORE." DISCUSSION.
MR. STEVENSON STATED, "WE WOULD HAVE THE ABILITY AT THE
STAFF LEVEL TO WORK OUT THE FINAL DETAILS FOR THE CORNICE
PIECE?" COMMISSIONER MILLER SAID, "YES."
VOTE:
DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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PUBLIC HEARINGS
205.1 Community Development Department - Planning Division - Parks And
Recreation Department
Requests The City Commission Hold A Public Hearing For The Aesthetic Review
Of The Expansion Of The Winter Springs Senior Center And Therapy Pool
Addition Located At 400 North Edgemon Avenue.
Mr. Stevenson presented this Agenda Item.
Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
No one spoke.
Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
Discussion.
"MOTION TO APPROVE." MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BROWN. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
205.2 Community Development Department
Requests The City Commission Consider The Final Engineering/Site Plan For
Phase I Of The Winter Springs Senior Center Pool Addition, Located At 400 North
Edgemon Avenue.
Mr. Stevenson introduced this Agenda Item by saying, "We coupled these together, this
is not a Public Hearing - this is the Final Engineering."
"MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM '205.2'." MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR
McGINNIS. MAYOR BUSH STATED, "SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER
BROWN." DISCUSSION.
COMMISSIONER MILLER SPOKE FOR THE RECORD ON HANDICAPPED
PARKING SPACES.
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VOTE:
DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
REGULAR AGENDA
REGULAR
300. Parks And Recreation Department
Requesting That The City Commission Approve Staff's Plan And Budgeted
Funding To Provide For The Staging, Lighting, Sound System, Entertainment,
Shuttle Buses, Winter Springs Idol Competition, And Other Associated Items For
The July 4, 2007, Celebration Of Freedom And Authorized The Expenditure Of Up
To $20,000.00 To American Audio For Staging, Speakers, Sound, Lights, Etc. And
Up To $20,000.00 To The Birchmore Group To Obtain Entertainment Services.
Discussion followed with Mr. Chuck Pula, Director, Parks and Recreation Department.
"MOTION TO APPROVE." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MILLER.
MAYOR BUSH STATED, "SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER GILMORE."
DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
REGULAR
301. Not Used.
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REGULAR
302. Office Of The Mayor
Requesting The City Commission To Authorize The City Manager To Prepare An
Updated Report On Options Available For Televising Commission Meetings.
City Manager Ronald W. McLemore introduced this Agenda Item and stated, "There are
some additional technologies out there that will allow us to do video streaming on the
Web and we're just asking you to allow us to go forward with that, examine that and
bring it back to you."
"MOTION TO APPROVE." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BROWN.
SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
REGULAR
303. Community Development Department
Requests The City Commission Consider The Proposed Buffer Wall (Between The
Rear Of The Site And The Adjacent Eagles Watch Phase II Residential Subdivision)
Modification For The VistawiIla Office Center, Located On The South Side Of State
Road 434, Just West Of The GreeneWay Interchange.
Mr. Baker presented his opening remarks on this Agenda Item.
Discussion.
Tape 2/Side A
Mr. Tom Corkery, 759 Bear Creek Circle, Winter Springs, Florida: addressed the City
Commission on this project.
Mr. Bill Walker, Barfield Fence and Walt, 2266 Clark Street, Apopka, Florida: said,
"My experience with the three (3) hurricanes that we took three (3) years ago that came
through - from a wind-load standpoint, we did not have any issues with our walls. All of
them are still standing today. We did have to do some repairs to some stucco where tree
limbs, things of that nature, fell on them.
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However, we had, at the time, we were also building and constructing your typical
masonry wall that is what the City would like to see. And we actually had more damage
to those walls because they would actually fold over and we would actually rebuild the
wall. So from a damage standpoint our experience has been with less damage to it. You
know, if you drive through it with a car, you're probably going to get about the same as
you do with a block wall."
Regarding the proposed walls, Commissioner Miller asked, "So there will be uprights
every..." Mr. Walker noted, ".. . Fifty feet (50')."
Manager McLemore noted, "The real issue of the engineering properties and how they
stand up over time and again, because we don't want to set a precedent for this, in all
cases where we - may really need brick or block, I would appreciate you making a
Finding - this is principal landscape purposes, which I think it is; which allows us room
to justify this not having to be one of a really - which intended to be a real structural
barrier for security purposes."
"WITH THE WORDING RECOMMENDED, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A
MOTION TO APPROVE." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BROWN.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER KREBS. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
REGULAR
304. Office Of The City Clerk
Requesting The City Commission To Approve Dates And Submitted Information
For This Year's Advisory Board And Committee Appreciation Dinner Which As In
Previous Years Will Honor The Individuals Who Serve Our Community As
Members Of The City's Advisory Boards And Committees. The City Commission
Has Requested That This Year, This Event Be Held At Y en Yen Restaurant, 855
East State Road 434, Winter Springs, Florida.
Discussion.
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"I MOVE THAT WE HAVE THIS YEAR'S ADVISORY BOARD DINNER AT
YEN YEN RESTAURANT ON SATURDAY, APRIL 21sT. I WOULD ALSO
ATTACH TO THAT NOT TO EXCEED A BUDGET OF SEVEN THOUSAND
DOLLARS ($7,000.00)." MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BROWN. DISCUSSION.
"I WILL ADD TO MOTION WITH A SECOND DATE OF APRIL 28TH
PROVIDED ANY COMMISSIONER CANNOT ATTEND THE ONE (1) ON THE
21sT." MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS. SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER BROWN. DISCUSSION.
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN : AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
REGULAR
305. Public Works Department
Requesting The City Commission Set A Date For A Lake Jesup Workshop.
With discussion, Mayor Bush summarized, "April the 11th." Commissioner Krebs
suggested, "5: 15 [p.m.]." Deputy Mayor McGinnis remarked, "Good." No objections
were voiced.
Mayor Bush called a Recess at 8:48 p.m.
The Regular Meeting was called back to Order at 8:59 p.m.
REGULAR
306. Public Works Department And Parks And Recreation Department
Requesting Authorization To Award the Contract For The Construction Of The
Senior Center Addition And Therapy To
Mr. Greg Bishop, Capital Projects Coordinator, Public Works Department spoke
regarding this Agenda Item.
Manager McLemore said, "What we need to do is go and give us authority to provide for
a Note, probably a fifteen (15) year Note. We'll try to look for a twenty (20) year Note
which is callable at any time, without a penalty; which will allow us the flexibility when
funds are available from Impact Fees and other sources to pay it off early and deal with
that annually on a budget-by-budget basis. That will allow us to go ahead and start the
construction right away.
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And I will tell you there are sufficient funds to payoff that Note. You'll have to re-
budget it every year, based on the balances due; but that will allow you to move ahead
quickly.
I need the authority to go ahead and negotiate the Note. You do not have to appropriate
any additional monies; we'll show you how to do that when we come back with the Note,
in order to get this thing rolling right away."
"I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE SO APPROVE." MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER BROWN. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER GILMORE.
DISCUSSION. MAYOR BUSH SAID, "MOTION THEN WOULD INCLUDE
GIVING THE MANAGER THE AUTHORITY TO - GET THE NOTE BUSINESS.
AND ALSO - APPROVING HIS BASE PLAN PLUS ALTERNATES 1,2 & 3,
RIGHT?" COMMISSIONER BROWN SAID, "YES."
MR. BISHOP SAID, "THERE'S TEN PERCENT (10%) CONTINGENCY."
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
REGULAR
307. Office Of The City Manager .
Requesting The City Commission To Review A Request From Crown Castle
International To Amend The Revenue Share Agreement For The Cell Tower
Located At 411 Shore Road.
Mr. Kevin Smith, Director, General Services Department addressed the City Commission
regarding this agenda item.
"THAT IS ACTUALLY THE BASIS OF STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION AND
ALSO MY MOTION THAT WE AGREE WITH STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION
AND DO NOTHING NOW, UNTIL THEY COME BACK AND SEE US."
MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BROWN. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER
MILLER. DISCUSSION.
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VOTE:
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
REGULAR
308. Office Of The City Manager
Requesting The City Commission To Follow Up On Its Discussion Of City
Commission Meeting Times, And Agenda Organization.
"I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT AS SOON AS FEASIBLY
POSSIBLE WE MODIFY OUR ST ART TIME FOR THE COMMISSION
MEETINGS TO 5:15 [P.M.] AND FOLLOW THE FOLLOWING AGENDA ITEM
ORDER, BEGINNING WITH CONSENT, GOING INTO INFO[RMATIONAL],
GOING INTO ANY AWARDS, FIFTEEN (15) MINUTE BREAK - AND THEN
PUBLIC INPUT AND REGULAR AGENDA, AND REPORTS." MAYOR BUSH
THEN SAID, "AND JUST ADD PUBLIC HEARINGS IN THERE." MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER BROWN.
DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS INQUIRED, "WILL THAT INCLUDE AN
EARLIER STOP TIME THEN? TEN O'CLOCK? DO YOU WANT TO
INCLUDE THAT?" COMMISSIONER BROWN STATED, "YES - WITH A
STOP TIME OF TEN O'CLOCK." SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER
GILMORE. DISCUSSION.
MAYOR BUSH THEN SAID, "START AT 5:15 [P.M.] - THE ORDER WOULD
BE CONSENT, INFORMATIONAL, AWARDS, FIFTEEN (15) MINUTE BREAK,
THE SEATS, PUBLIC HEARINGS, PUBLIC INPUT, REGULAR AGENDA."
COMMISSIONER BROWN REMARKED, "YES."
FURTHER DISCUSSION.
COMMISSIONER KREBS SAID TO COMMISSIONER BROWN "IF YOU
WOULD CHANGE YOUR ORDER TO START WITH THE
INFORMATIONAL AND THEN TO CONSENT, ONLY BECAUSE - MANY
TIMES WE PULL OFF ITEMS OFF OF CONSENT AND BY THAT TIME
POSSIBL Y - MORE PEOPLE WOULD BE HERE..." COMMISSIONER
BROWN SAID, "...THAT IS FINE..." COMMISSIONER KREBS ADDED,
"...TO HEAR THAT." COMMISSIONER BROWN AGAIN NOTED, "THAT IS
FINE. "
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MAYOR BUSH THEN NOTED, "SO THE CHANGE IS INFORMATIONAL
INSTEAD OF CONSENT FIRST. JUST REVERSE THOSE TWO (2)."
COMMISSIONER BROWN REMARKED, "YES."
CITY CLERK LORENZO-LUACES ASKED FOR CLARIFICATION - WHERE
WAS PUBLIC INPUT? MA YOR BUSH SAID, "PUBLIC INPUT WOULD BE
RIGHT AFTER THE SEATS." COMMISSIONER BROWN ADDED,
FOLLOWED BY PUBLIC HEARING AND THEN REGULAR AGENDA."
MAYOR BUSH NOTED, "PUBLIC INPUT, PUBLIC HEARINGS, REGULAR
AGENDA."
MANAGER McLEMORE SAID, "SO WE NEED TO BE OUT A COUPLE DAYS
BEFORE WE START THIS, MAYBE THIRTY (30) DAYS BECAUSE OF
ADVERTISING. SO WE START - FIRST MEETING IN MARCH."
Tape 2/Side B
MAYOR BUSH REMARKED, "I THINK STARTING THIS IN MARCH IS
PROBABL Y A GOOD IDEA. SO IF THE COMMISSION HAS NO OBJECTION,
THIS WOULD TAKE EFFECT MARCH THE 12TH."
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
REGULAR
309. Office Of The City Manager
Requesting The City Commission To Formalize Its Directives Related To Issues
That Arose During The City Commission Workshop Of February 5, 2007
Regarding The Revision And Update Of The City's Pension Plan Document.
As stated earlier in the Meeting, this Agenda Item was pulled.
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REGULAR
310. Community Development Department - Planning Division
Requests The City Commission Reconsider Its Directive To Staff To Proceed With
An Administrative Amendment During The Spring Comprehensive Plan
Amendment Cycle Changing The Future Land Use (FLU) Designation To (Winter
Springs) "Rural Residential" (Max Of 1.0 DU Per Acre) On The Weaver Property,
Given The Re-Application And Attached Letter From Mr. Sam Bowman Of
Embassy Homes Indicating His Willingness To Bind The Property To No More
Than 2.25 Dwelling Units Per Gross Acre.
Ms. Sahlstrom addressed the City Commission regarding this Agenda Item.
Mr. Sam Bowman, 1366 Augusta National Boulevard, Winter Springs, Florida: said,
"There is approximately 30 - 35,000) square feet of industrial buildings. I don't know
how many thousands of square feet there are of outside area that people in the City have
referred to as junk - there's trailers out there. There's some outside storage, there's some
dump trucks in that area. Weare proposing to remove all of it. There will not be any
industrial, commercial component or activity on this property when we're done. We
would like to build a gated community. We would like to build somewhere in the low
fifties (50's) as far as homes in there. We have done a Traffic Study for our previous
application to you. It reveals an insignificant increase in traffic than exists today."
Continuing, Mr. Bowman stated, "In addition to the Black Hammock Homeowner's
Association, via Jim Logue - we have also met with Robert King. We have also met
with the District Commissioner - County Commissioner Mike McLean. We have met
with the Barrington Homeowner's Association President. We have incorporated virtually
all of their requests or suggestions, as Eloise (Sahlstrom) said, except one (1). They
wanted us to have our access through Barrington Estates. It's impossible.
Their Homeowner's Association has already established and it precludes us from entering
and exiting through there. We just virtually don't have any opposition to it. We haven't
entered opposition until this Commission Meeting in October where it was alluded to that
there might have been a restriction on the property when it was annexed. And that
restriction was one (1) unit to the acre. It's on the tapes; it really was said at that
Meeting. We researched very thoroughly after the Meeting and there were no
restrictions. The owner of the property, Donald Weaver, remembers no restrictions on the
property.
I think this is a unique opportunity to have a development that is a good situation for the
City; it's a good situation for the area around the City; the residents of Oviedo; it's a
good situation for the residents of Seminole County. As has been expressed by the Black
Hammock Homeowner's Association and the Friends of Lake Jesup. It's really a great
situation to remove the - as Eloise (Sahlstrom) said, the Non-Conforming Use or the
Industrial and Commercial component, off of this property."
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Discussion.
"MOTION TO TABLE". MOTION BY COMMISSIONER KREBS.
MOTION DIED FOR LACK OF A SECOND.
MOTION THAT WE DENY THE REQUEST." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER
MILLER. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BROWN. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
.:..:. AGENDA NOTE: CONSENT AGENDA ITEM "400" WAS DISCUSSED
NEXT AS AN INDIVIDUAL AGENDA ITEM, FOLLOWED BY THE REST OF
THE AGENDA, AS NOTED. .:..:.
CONSENT AGENDA
CONSENT
400. Public Works Department
Requests The City Commission Validate The Staff Recommendation Finding IDC
Town Center Phase I Expansion (Buildings 3, 4, And 16) To Be Built In Substantial
Accordance With The Final Engineering Plans.
This Agenda Item was discussed next as a separate Agenda Item.
Tape 3/Side A
"MOTION TO APPROVE WITH THE CHANGE." MAYOR BUSH
REMARKED, "MOTION BY COMMISSIONER KREBS WITH THE ONE (1)
CHANGE." SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MILLER. DISCUSSION.
AS NOTED UNDER "RECOMMENDED CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL:",
MAYOR BUSH ADDED "AND THAT CHANGE IS ON ITEM 3), STRIKING 4
AND 16."
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VOTE:
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN : AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
CONSENT AGENDA
CONSENT
401. Information Services Department
Requests Authorization To Purchase Cisco Equipment For The New Public Works
Facility In The Amount Of $19,686.00 (Already Budgeted).
There was no discussion on this Agenda Item.
CONSENT
402. Community Development Department
Requests That The City Commission Review And Approve The Application Of The
Three (3) Contractors To Perform The Home Refurbishing Work Associated With
The Home Again - Florida Housing Finance Corporation Disaster Relief Home
Assistance Program.
No discussion.
CONSENT
403. Information Services Department
Requests Authorization To Contract With Orlando Business Telephone System For
Phase II Telephone System Install At The New Public Works Facility In The
Amount Of $3,368.00 (Already Budgeted).
This Agenda Item was not discussed.
CONSENT
404. Information Services Department
Requests Authorization To Dispose Of Surplus Assets According To The Attached
Disposition Sheets.
There was no discussion on this Agenda Item.
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CONSENT
405. Office Of The City Attorney
Approve Resolution 2007-08 Restatinig The City Commission's Support For The
Public .Conserv~tion Easement OverFnd Under The Land Commonly Known As
The Wmter Sprmgs Golf Course.-
No discussion.
CONSENT
406. Public Works Department
Requests The City Commission Validate The Staff Recommendation Finding Miller
School Supply To Be Built In Substantial Accordance With The Final Engineering
Plans.
This Agenda Item was not discussed.
CONSENT
407. Public Works Department
Requesting Authorization To Purchase Three Vehicle Lifts For The New Public
Works Facility Garage.
There was no discussion on this Agenda Item.
CONSENT
408. Office Of The City Manager
The City Manager Is Requesting That The City Commission Authorize A
Supplemental Appropriation In The Amount Of $5,000.00 From The General Fund
To Replenish Several Line Codes For This Fiscal Year.
No discussion.
CONSENT
409. Office Of The City Clerk
Requesting Official Approval Of The November 16, 2006 City Commission
Workshop Minutes.
This Agenda Item was not discussed.
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CONSENT
410. Office Of The City Clerk
Requesting Re-Approval Of The November 20, 2006 Special City Commission
Meeting Minutes.
There was no discussion on this Agenda Item.
CONSENT
411. Office Of The City Clerk
Requesting Approval Of The January 22, 2007 Discussion Of The Winter Springs
Golf Course Summary.
No discussion.
CONSENT
412. Office Of The City Clerk
Requesting Approval Of The January 22, 2007 Regular City Commission Meeting
Minutes.
This Agenda Item was not discussed.
CONSENT
413. Office Of The City Clerk
Requesting Approval Of The January 29, 2007 City Commission Workshop
Minutes.
There was no discussion on this Agenda Item.
CONSENT
414. Office Of The City Attorney
Requesting That The City Commission Consider Approving A Mediated Settlement
Agreement In The Case "Roy v. City Of Winter Springs, Florida Power And Light
And Seville Chase Homeowners Association."
No discussion.
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CONSENT
415. Office Of The City Clerk
Requesting Approval Of The January 30, 2007 City Commission Workshop
Minutes.
This Agenda Item was not discussed.
CONSENT
416. Offiee Of The City Clerk
Requesting Approval Of The January 31, 2007 Discussion On Video Taping City
Commission Meetings Summary.
There was no discussion onthis Agenda Item.
"MOTION TO APPROVE" (CONSENT AGENDA 401 - 416). MOTION BY
DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS. MAYOR BUSH STATED, "SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER GILMORE." DISCUSSION.
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
INFORMA TIONAL AGENDA
INFORMATIONAL
500. Community Development Department
Advising The City Commission Of The Status Of Various Current Planning
Projects.
This Agenda Item was not discussed.
INFORMATIONAL
501. Parks And Recreation Department
Notifying The City Commission Of The Status Of The Florida Recreational
Development Assistance Program Grant Regarding Central Winds Park.
No discussion.
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INFORMATIONAL
502. Public Works Department
Advising The City Commission Of The Status Of Various Capital Improvement
Projects.
There was no discussion on this Agenda Item.
INFORMATIONAL
503. Community Development Department - Planning Division
Wishes To Update The City Commission On The Open Space Advisory Study
Committee.
This Agenda Item was not discussed.
"MOTION TO APPROVE." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER GILMORE.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER KREBS. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
REPORTS
REPORTS
600. Office Of The City Attorney - Anthony A. Garganese, Esquire
No Report.
REPORTS
601. Office Of The City Manager - Ronald W. McLemore
Manager McLemore said, "In regards to the Tuskawilla Trails issue - we have met with
the Property Manager from the Tuskawilla Trails. We have worked out a solution that
we also communicated to Jesup's Reserve. I don't know if they're okay with it or if
we've had any feed back yet - no feedback yet.
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What it provides for is that the fence would be within the twenty-five foot (25') boundary
on their property. Jesup's Reserve would pay fifty percent (50%) of that cost. They
would pay fifty percent (50%) of that cost. And we would continue to have some
landscaping along the right-of-way, on the Jesup's Reserve side. And I think that was
basically it. I think it was a pretty good approach; and we're just waiting for word back
from Jesup's Reserve."
Mayor Bush said, "This has been shared with Mr. Mirand who have been representing the
Tuska Trails people? And so, Ron (McLemore) you might want to give him a call or just
keep him in the loop." Manager McLemore stated, "Yes, I would like to touch base with
him as soon as we hear back from Jesup's Reserve.
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602. Office Of The City Clerk - Andrea Lorenzo-Luaces, CMC
No Report.
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603. Office Of The Mayor - John F. Bush
Mayor Bush asked about the handball courts being tom down in Tuskawilla Trails.
Discussion.
Mayor Bush said, "Commissioners, I have given you two (2) Resolutions to look over.
Both of them from the Florida League of Cities. One (1) is - concerning Affordable
Housing. The other one is on the League's Legislative priorities." Mayor Bush
suggested, "Take a look at them before our next Meeting and see if we can get those -
and one (1) of those needs to go to the Legislature before the Legislative [Action] Day."
Mayor Bush said, "I would like to see the Commission take a look at our water billing
procedures - especially our policy on cutting people off." Mayor Bush added, "If we
need to do software to track things, I think we should get it. I think we should take a
look at that unless you're all happy with it. I am not happy with it. I don't think it's, I
don't think its fair and the way our Code is written, Staff has no alternative, but to
force it just as it is written - which gives them no flexibility. "
Deputy Mayor McGinnis said, "In addition to that, we had a study done. George
Colombo did an analysis of that Department, I believe." Manager McLemore said,
"Well, actually we have." Deputy Mayor McGinnis said, "Within the last year."
Manager McLemore said, "Oh yes, we followed through on all that. "
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Deputy Mayor McGinnis continued, "We never got a Report We never saw it."
Manager McLemore said, "1 can get you copies of it." Deputy Mayor McGinnis said,
"I would be interested in what some of his recommendations were because I think one
(1) of them was to empower Staff to make some decisions, but..." Manager McLemore
said, ".. .Right with some discretion, but not a lot of discretion. "
Manager McLemore said, "I'd suggest we Agenda this for the next Meeting or a
Meeting thereafter; and we made suggestions to you all before, that were turned down
and we need to revisit those, I think. "
Mayor Bush asked, "Is the Commission in agreement that this should be an Agenda
Item?" Deputy Mayor McGinnis said, "Absolutely." Commissioner Brown said,
"Yes." Commissioner Gilmore said, "It should be an Agenda or maybe even a
Workshop. " Deputy Mayor McGinnis said, "1 don't think it needs to be. "
Manager McLemore said, "No, I don't think so. I think if you all just approve the things
we brought to you before we could make a huge dent in the problem." Mayor Bush said,
"Ron (McLemore), why don't you and Staff put it together and then why don't you take a
look at it." Manager McLemore replied, "Well, we'll start there and if looks like it's
going too big we can revert to a Workshop." Mayor Bush said, "Okay. Good."
Mr. Bob Rucci, 973 Turkey Hollow Circle, Winter Springs, Florida: mentioned again
that he had spoken with a local Artist who offered to make some dog statues for the Dog
Park and thought that some extra funds could be made through such a venture.
Continuing, Mr. Rucci stated, "We might be able to donate enough money to her to take
and bring this to fruition for you. I don't know that from this particular event that we're
running this coming Sunday, if we're going to make enough to cover her entire cost for
doing this. In fact, I don't know what her entire costs are. I just want to get her on the
Agenda for March li\ [2007] to have her show you what types of things she has in
mind. You can give her an up or down Vote as to whether or not you want that type of
stuff and at that point - I will know whether or not we have money to supply it to you
from the Run. It may be totally free of charge. And even though it's free of charge, you
may not want it."
Mayor Bush asked, "Bob (Rucci), can you and this lady meet with Mr. McLemore and
decide then how this should look as an Agenda Item." Mr. Rucci then said to Manager
McLemore, "I'll give you a call in the morning." Manager McLemore said, "Okay."
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Mayor Bush said, "The Farmers Market, which we heard the presentation on tonight.
Where do you want to go with this? You know, there'd be some City involvement here,
closing the street. Security, etc, etc. This goes along with getting activities into the Town
Center. "
Commissioner Brown said, "When you look at - what goes on in Winter Park every
Saturday, 1 think it's a huge ad for our community if we can pull this off successfully - 1
don't know whether it's a workshop item that we can lay all the pieces in place or
whether it's just something we ask Staff to go do and to come back with a proposal on
how it should be set up and how it should be run."
Manager McLemore said, "1 would like to follow that route. Let us analyze it, meet with
her, and analyze it and bring it back to you in a discussion format." Deputy Mayor
McGinnis said, "Good."
Commissioner Krebs said, "1 think it is a good idea to investigate and research. One thing
that 1 would like to recommend is that if we decide that we want to do this, that we
include the James Doran Company. And what is going on in - the area of the Town
Center. Maybe they can either get involved or offer parking areas, etc, etc."
Mayor Bush said, "So Manager McLemore will take that under advisement as well."
Next, Mayor Bush then gave an update on the Driver's Education program.
Mayor Bush said, "Tomorrow, the County Commission - Chairman Henley asked me to
come and speak about - in the CRA district, the property there on 17-92; it came before
our Commission on August the 14th, 2006. And this has to do with a building there, and 1
believe what the County's going to ask them to do is to go up to a higher stories, three (3)
to five (5), which is what we recommended to Mr. Reese, who is the Property Owner."
Mayor Bush then read an excerpt from our August the 14t\ 2006 City Commission
Minutes and noted, "Since this was the Motion was approved by the Commission, if you
have no objection, 1 will probably share this at the County Commission Meeting."
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Discussion On Public Input
This issue was not discussed.
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604. Commission Seat One - Robert S. Miller
Commissioner Miller brought up the Greene W ay and asked, "Can we file a City lawsuit
against the Expressway Authority on behalf of the citizens of the City? - Every resident
of our City who goes to Oviedo on the Greene W ay gives the Greene W ay authority thirty-
five (35) cents for free. It's just, they're not entitled to it. By law, their not entitled to take
it. And by law they should give it back to us."
With discussion, Mayor Bush said, "So, the question is Anthony (Garganese), do we have
any recourse legally, is Commissioner Miller's question."
Commissioner Miller then suggested that a letter be sent.
Attorney Garganese said, "I could do some preliminary research on their rate making
authority." Attorney Garganese added, "If you want to know preliminarily what their
rate making authority is, I could certainly get that back to you." Further discussion.
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605. Commissioner Seat Two - Rick Brown
Commissioner Brown remarked for the Record about his personal support for Agenda
Item '405'."
Discussion ensued on Lacrosse fields and the schedule for Jetta Park.
The Badcock Center parking lot was brought up next with discussion.
Commissioner Brown said, "I would like to at some point, have a larger discussion on
our Benefits program. We had one (1) of our local business owners speak to us about the
AFLAC offering and I wasn't here at the time, but I'd be interested at some point in a
discussion about how the Commission voted for having a restrictive policy or a limiting
policy when it comes to benefits that maybe offered to the employees. AFLAC is a
national - international entity and I know we use them in our company and it seems to be
something that a lot of people take advantage of especially in hourly positions to augment
their benefits coverage and - I would be curious to have a deeper conversation on that."
Manager McLemore said "Sure."
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606. Commission Seat Three - Donald A. Gilmore
Commissioner Gilmore first spoke on walls.
Sink holes and related cavities and where homes are being built was brought up next.
On the Trotwood Park noise and headlight issue, Commissioner Gilmore said, "In our
discussions, I know I had asked - that if we could not come up with a standard acceptable
whistle that everybody would use - has anything been looked at one that?"
With discussion, Manager McLemore asked, "Do we have a Consensus on that one."
Mayor Bush asked, "What are we going to do about the whistles?" Commissioner Brown
stated, "They have got to have them." Commissioner Krebs said, "I say whistles."
Commissioner Gilmore said, "I say whistles; but I still say a reasonable whistle and let
them all use the same thing."
Mayor Bush said, "I think that the issue is being respectful of the people in terms of the
hours of operation. That is what it is." Deputy Mayor McGinnis commented, "I think so
too. "
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607. Commission Seat Four/Deputy Mayor - Sally McGinnis
Deputy Mayor McGinnis mentioned page 47 of the Quality Cities magazine, and spoke
of some "Alternative employee benefit programs". Deputy Mayor McGinnis added, "I
think these are some things that we might want to look at. I would ask you to read the
article, if you haven't Ron (McLemore), everybody else read it." Deputy Mayor
McGinnis said, "I thought it was worth looking into. I would like to have some
feedback on it. Maybe you don't..." Manager McLemore said, "... We can call the
cities and see what they're doing. "
Manager McLemore said, "I need to see if there's a Consensus of the Commission on
that." Mayor Bush asked, "Is there a Consensus to have the Manager follow up on
this?" Commissioner Brown said, "Yes, why not." Commissioner Gilmore said, "I
don't know." Mayor Bush said, "Well, we have three (3) who agree, Miller, Brown. "
Commissioner Krebs said, "I would rather see us maybe spend, if we're going to spend
money, spend money on taking care of Compression and things like that." Mayor
Bush said, "Well, I think the Consensus was to have the Manager talk to these other
cities. It wasn't to do anything else. " Commissioner Brown said, "I would like to see
the positive result on the bottom line by having healthier employees and what it
actually saves the City in health care payments. "
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608. Commission Seat Five - Joanne M. Krebs
Commissioner Krebs mentioned there was no nameplate on the dais for the City Clerk.
Mayor Bush said, "We'll get you a nameplate Andrea (Lorenzo-Luaces, City Clerk)."
.:..:. AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING ADDITIONAL REPORTS WERE
DISCUSSED NEXT, IN THE ORDER DOCUMENTED. .:..:.
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603. Office Of The Mayor - John F. Bush
Discussion ensued on the State Road 434 cuts and the Bruster's project.
Winter Springs Boulevard was brought up next, to which Mr. Brian Fields, P.E., City
Engineer, Public Works Department said, "We tested it. We found about twenty (20)
locations that were out of spec, out of tolerance as far as following - walk through
tomorrow to go over that. The mitigating action hasn't been decided yet.
But we did identify deficiencies in our post construction tests that we're working with the
contractor on what to do."
Mayor Bush asked, "Well, are we going to have this resolved before we do the rest of it?"
Mr. Fields replied, "Yes, we're going to have it resolved very soon. The current phase is
complete. The question is what to do about the areas that are deficient in the current
phase." Mayor Bush asked, "Will you keep us informed because we're getting questions
about it?" Mr. Fields said, "Yes."
Mayor Bush said, "I've had a couple of requests for a stop sign at the exit of the
[Tuscawilla] Country Club on Tuscora [Drive]."
Tape 3/Side B
Mr. Fields said, "The volumes there really don't warrant a three (3) way stop. We can
look at it more specifically in terms if there is a safety situation with sight distance."
Mayor Bush said, "I think it has more to do with the sight because of the landscaping and
the cars are coming up a hill." Mr. Fields added, "We could look at it."
Commissioner Gilmore said, "I would like to comment on that. It is worse coming from
Tuscora [Drive], and going across. And if you look to the west, you really can't hardly
tell if somebody's coming. But it's worse out of Tuscora [Drive] where there is a stop
sign. "
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601. Office Of The City Manager - Ronald W. McLemore
Manager McLemore stated, "I had asked for a Special Meeting with you on the
Pension issues."
With further discussion, Commissioner Krebs suggested, "How about the fjh [of
March]. Commissioner Miller remarked, "Fine with me." No Commissioners
objected. Mayor Bush summarized that this Special Meeting would be held, "5:15
[p.m.] on [Friday] the fjh [of March]."
ADJOURNMENT
Mayor Bush adjourned the Regular Meeting at 11 :04 p.m.
RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED:
DANjELLE HARKER, ASSISTANT TO THE CITY CLERK AND
APPROVED:
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NOTE: These Minutes were approved at the February 26, 2007 Regular City Commission Meeting.