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CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA
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DECEMBER 11,2006
CALL TO ORDER
The Regular Meeting of Monday, December 11,2006 of the City Commission was called
to Order by Mayor John F. Bush at 6:30 p.m. in the Commission Chambers of the
Municipal Building (City Hall, 1126 East State Road 434, Winter Springs, Florida
32708).
Roll Call:
Mayor John F. Bush, present
Commissioner Robert S. Miller, present
Commissioner Rick Brown, present
Commissioner Donald A. Gilmore, present
Commissioner Sally McGinnis, arrived at 7:05 p.m.
Commissioner Joanne M. Krebs, present
City Manager Ronald W. McLemore, present
City Attorney Anthony A. Garganese, arrived at 6:35 p.m.
Mayor Bush recognized Boy Scout Troop 613 and after a Moment of Silence, Troop 613
led the Pledge of Allegiance.
Under "Agenda Changes", Mayor Bush mentioned that Commissioner Sally McGinnis
would be a little late, and he was going to switch Regular Agenda Item '''307' with '300',
so we will take up '307' first."
Mayor Bush recognized former Commissioner Edward Martinez, Jr. who was III
attendance.
PUBLIC INPUT
Mr. Edward Martinez, Jr., 205 Little Creek Lane, Winter Springs, Florida: commented
on an article in the November 30, 2006 edition of the 'Winter Springs Voice' about
giving tax dollars to Chambers of Commerce.
Brief discussion.
City Attorney Anthony A. Garganese arrived at 6:35 p.m.
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Mr. Mervin Warner, 673 Keuka Court, Winter Springs, Florida: brought up comments
from a Tuscawilla Homeowner's Association meeting discussion related to Traffic
Calming.
Mr. Stephen Thompson, 810 Dyson Drive, Winter Springs, Florida: said Mr. Damon
Chase would speak for him.
Mr. Steven Humbarger, 988 Shetland Avenue, Winter Springs, Florida: thanked the City
Commission for their contributions; spoke of Shetland Avenue and Traffic Calming;
commented for the Record that he remains against sidewalks; recommended that stop
signs be used at intersections; and hoped a Straw Ballot would be distributed to affected
residents.
Mr. Bob Rucci, 973 Turkey Hol/ow Circle, Winter Springs, Florida: commented on
Regular Agenda Item '301', that he offered to assist with any design issues; and noted for
the Record they were in favor of this location.
Mr. Tom Waters, 1033 Antelope Trail, Winter Springs, Florida: spoke on Regular
Agenda Item '310'; commented on the proposed garage addition; and suggested the City
Commission be cautious in making their decisions.
Ms. Beth Hattaway, 900 Arabian Avenue, Winter Springs, Florida: said she was in favor
of Sidewalks and Traffic Calming; and felt there is a speeding problem in this area.
Mr. Mike Hattaway, 900 Arabian Avenue, Winter Springs, Florida: also noted his
concern with speeding drivers and safety concerns; and commented on Fisher Road.
Mr. Roger Fisher, 800 Dyson Drive, Winter Springs, Florida: did not address the City
Commission; however, Mayor Bush said, "Roger is opposed to the Traffic Calming."
Ms. Connie Nadrowski, 915 Dyson Drive, Winter Springs, Florida: commented on
recently noted pedestrian accidents; noted problems she had with trimming her shrubbery
around her mailbox; and said she was in support of the Dog Park."
Mr. Jack Yoder, 914 Arabian Avenue, Winter Springs, Florida: spoke in opposition to
the proposed Traffic Calming devices.
Mr. Fred Barone, 339 Mohawk Trail, Winter Springs, Florida: as a resident of
Tuscawilla Trails, Mr. Barone commented on the new condos being built at Jesup's
Reserve and asked that a concrete wall be built to preserve their security.
Mr. Albert Mirand, 358 Mohawk Trail, Winter Springs, Florida: also as a resident of
Tuscawilla Trails, Mr. Mirand asked that a wall be built between their community and
Jesup's Reserve.
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Commissioner Joanne M. Krebs told Mr. Barone that she had received his letter and had
tried to call him, and added, "If you would like me to call you, I will more than happy to,
but give me a time when I can reach you."
Mr. Moti Khemlani, 605 Morgan Street, Winter Springs, Florida: commented on the
Commission's decision; and said that Seminole County money could be better used on
other similar projects; and added that the City Commission should stick with their
original decision.
Commissioner McGinnis arrived at 7:05 p.m.
Ms. Janet Putnam, 955 Dyson Drive Winter Springs, Florida: did not address the City
Commission; but, Mayor Bush said, "You are in favor of it."
Mr. Larry Nadrowski, 915 Dyson Drive, Winter Springs, Florida: commented that he
was in favor of Sidewalks and Traffic Calming; felt there was misinformation out there
on this issue; and said there was a speeding problem on Dyson Drive.
Mr. Michael Saporito, 607 Morgan Street, Winter Springs, Florida: commented on
polling residents of Dyson Drive and Morgan Street; and did not think this really was a
dangerous area.
Ms. Carol Saporito, 607 Morgan Street, Winter Springs, Florida: Mayor Bush stated,
"Carol Saporito does not wish to address the Commission and is opposed."
Dr. Jeff Bos, 820 Dyson Drive, Winter Springs, Florida: Mayor Bush stated, "Is opposed
to the Traffic Calming and does not wish to address the Commission."
Ms. Pamela Carroll, 865 Dyson Drive, Winter Springs, Florida: commented on the
Traffic Calming issues; asked to see the statistics on the Poll; did not think there was a
speeding problem; and commented on requesting to see Minutes from a Tuscawilla
Homeowner's Association meeting related to whether there was a Vote taken on this
Issue.
Ms. Dana and Allan Jones, 902 Arabian Avenue, Winter Springs, Florida: Mayor Bush
stated, "Are opposed to the Dyson Drive Traffic Calming and do not wish to address the
Commission. "
Ms. Dana Jones, 902 Arabian Avenue, Winter Springs, Florida: spoke in opposition to
the Traffic Calming and mentioned that if another Straw Ballot was taken, to include
residents on Morgan Street, Pinto Court, and Shetland Avenue.
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Ms. Jill McGaugh, 223 Oakwood Drive, Casselberry, Florida: asked why this building
did not have button access at the doors for handicapped individuals.
Ms. Colleen Smith, 920 Dyson Drive, Winter Springs, Florida: Mayor Bush stated, "Is
opposed to the Traffic Calming and does not wish to address the Commission."
Ms. Maria Romer, 1043 Northern Way, Winter Springs, Florida: Mayor Bush stated, "Is
opposed to Traffic Calming and does not wish to address the Commission."
Ms. Martha Pultz and Dr. Lawrence Pultz, 1039 Northern Way, Winter Springs, Florida:
Mayor Bush stated, "Are opposed to the Traffic Calming and do not wish to address the
Commission. "
AWARDS AND PRESENTATIONS
AWARDS AND PRESENT A nONS
100. Office Of The City Manager
Presentation Of Employee Recognition Awards To City Of Winter Springs
Employees.
With the assistance of the City Commission, Mayor Bush and City Manager Ronald W.
McLemore presented Employee Recognition Awards to Employees (or their family) who
were in attendance. The following City of Winter Springs Employees were eligible for
recognition:
5 Years Of Service:
Ms. Angie Ashley, Public Works Department,' Mr. Chris Carson, Parks and Recreation
Department; Ms. Desiree DeBois, Finance Department; and Mr. Daniel Lynch, Jr.,
Utility Department.
10 Years Of Service:
Ms. Lori Anello, Police Department; Ms. Desiree Johnson, Police Department,' Mr.
Robert Keene, Fire Department; and Ms. Allison Swain, Police Department.
15 Years Of Service:
Mr. Bob Eckman, Public Works Department; and Ms. Bonita Roberts, Parks and
Recreation Department.
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20 Years Of Service:
Ms. Edith Farnum, Police Department; and Ms. Nancy Vobornik, General Services
Department
25 Years Of Service:
Mr. Skip Lazlo, Fire Department; and Mr. Joe McGaugh, Public Works Department
(accepted posthumously by his widow Ms. Jill McGaugh).
.:. .:. AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING REGULAR AGENDA ITEM WAS
DISCUSSED NEXT, FOLLOWED BY THE REST OF THE AGENDA. .:..:.
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307. Community Development Department
Requests The City Commission Consider The Proposed Development Agreement
Modification For The Vistawilla Office Center, Located On The South Side Of SR
(State Road) 434, Just West Of The GreeneWay Interchange.
Mr. Randy Stevenson, ASLA, Director, Community Development Department
introduced this Agenda Item.
Discussion.
Mr. Tom Corkery, 759 Bear Creek Circle, Winter Springs, Florida: addressed the City
Commission on this Agenda Item.
Discussion followed on sidewalks and setbacks.
Commissioner McGinnis asked, "This chain link fence, is that going to be permanent?"
Mr. Corkery stated, "No."
Further discussion.
"MOTION TO APPROVE." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS.
MAYOR BUSH STATED, "SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER GILMORE."
DISCUSSION.
ON THE SIDEWALK ISSUE, COMMISSIONER MILLER SUGGESTED, "I
WOULD APPRECIATE IT IF HAD MORE ATTENTION TO DETAIL IN THE
FUTURE."
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VOTE:
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: NAY
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Discussion ensued on the landscaping.
PUBLIC HEARINGS AGENDA
PUBLIC HEARINGS
200. Community Development Department - Customer Service Division And
Office Of The City Attorney
Request That The City Commission Hold A Public Hearing For Second
Reading/Adoption Of Ordinance Number 2006-23, Which Amends The Winter
Springs Code Of Ordinances, Changing The Term "Occupational License Tax" To
"Local Business Tax", Consistent With Florida Law.
Attorney Garganese read the Ordinance by "Title" only.
Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
No one spoke.
Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
"I WILL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE." MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER MILLER. MAYOR BUSH STATED, "SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER GILMORE." DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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REGULAR AGENDA
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300. Public Works Department
Requesting The City Commission To Consider A Second Straw Ballot For The
Proposed Dyson Drive Traffic Calming Project.
Mr. Damon A. Chase, Esquire, 250 International Parkway, Suite 250, Lake Mary,
Florida: addressed the City Commission.
Tape 2/Side A
Discussion.
Mr. Brian Fields, P.E., City Engineer, Public Works Department said, "We can certainly
do a Workshop; discuss Traffic Calming; bring in our experts." Commissioner McGinnis
remarked, "The Pros and Cons; what these are like." Mr. Fields continued, "Certainly.
That was done for this project in the PBS&J (Corporation) Report. They went through
the whole menu of Traffic Calming options. Unfortunately, it's not like Fisher Road.
Fisher Road is a new road where you could adjust the alignment of the pavement to - it's
a meandering road in itself. So it's very difficult to compare that to a retro-fit situation.
PBS&J (Corporation) went through each of those options; they analyzed the pros and
cons and they arrived at this design. However, we can bring in Glatting Jackson [Kercher
Anglin Lopez Rinehart, Inc.] to work with us on this one and do a Workshop, if that's
what the Commission directs us to do."
Commissioner McGinnis said, "I think it's important that we get it right. It is going to be
there a long time and I would like to do that. I would support that."
With further discussion, Commissioner Krebs said, "So I really would like to see, if we
really do believe we need Traffic Calming, that we actually do a Traffic Calming study
and I also would like all of the neighbors that live in the area to be a part of it."
Discussion.
Commissioner Robert S. Miller said, "I think the Workshop might be the appropriate
way, because of the first Ballot that went out seems like it was 54-45 which is - when we
first went ahead and approved it, it was based on safety overall. But, now that you look
at the overall data, it was clear, the majority didn't want the Traffic Calming. And it was
even questioned whether they wanted the sidewalk or not. But, the sidewalk was a safety
issue. So, I think it might be appropriate to have a Workshop, get more input."
Commissioner McGinnis said, "I agree. I would like a Workshop."
Further discussion.
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"I WAS GOING TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE TAKE THIS TO A
WORKSHOP AND NOT GO ANY FURTHER; NOT WASTE THE CITY'S
MONEY ON ASTRA W BALLOT AT THIS POINT IN TIME." MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER KREBS. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MILLER.
DISCUSSION.
COMMISSIONER DONALD A. GILMORE SAID, "WE PREVIOUSLY
APPROVED THIS TO BE BUILT. WE ARE NOW GOING TO GO TO A
WORKSHOP. SO, IF I CAN BE CLEAR, I THINK WE ARE SENDING IT TO A
WORKSHOP TO RESOLVE HOW WE WANT TO BUILD IT. IS THIS NOT
CORRECT?" COMMISSIONER KREBS SAID, "NO."
MANAGER McLEMORE SAID, "YOU CAN DO WHATEVER YOU DESIRE TO
DO. NOW, HERE ARE YOUR OPTIONS: ONE (1), YOU CAN SAY, 'PUT
EVERYTHING ON HOLD. WE WANT TO STUDY THIS FURTHER'; AND
THAT WILL PUT EVERYTHING ON HOLD." COMMISSIONER KREBS
SAID, "THAT IS MY MOTION." MANAGER McLEMORE CONTINUED,
"OKAY. BUT IF YOUR MOTION WAS, 'WE DO NOT WANT TO HAVE
ANOTHER BALLOT'; YOU STILL HAVE THAT OTHER APPROVAL OUT
THERE THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO UNDO. SO, THE QUESTION -
IF YOUR ANSWER IS, 'WE WOULD LIKE TO STUDY THIS FURTHER',
THEN EVERYTHING GETS PUT ON HOLD." COMMISSIONER KREBS SAID,
"NOT THE SIDEWALKS."
MAYOR BUSH NOTED, "NO STRAW BALLOT; AND A WORKSHOP."
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN : AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Mr. Chase stated, "Mayor, can I be informed of the time and the place of the Workshop
and all that." Mayor Bush said, "We post all of our Meetings." Mayor Bush continued,
"Andrea [Lorenzo-Luaces, City Clerk], would you let Mr. Chase know when a Workshop
is scheduled?" City Clerk Lorenzo-Luaces stated, "Sure."
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301. Parks And Recreation Department
Requesting The City Commission Approval To Proceed With The Planning For A
Permanent Dog Park On The Central Winds Expansion Property (Wincey) Per The
Attached Concept Master Plan.
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Mr. Chuck Pula, Director, Parks and Recreation Department addressed this Agenda Item
with the City Commission.
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Commissioner Krebs asked, "Does it cost more to get - nicer looking plans?" Brief
discussion.
Continuing, Commissioner McGinnis remarked, "Good job Chuck [Pula]."
"MOTION TO APPROVE THIS LOCATION." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER
MILLER. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER KREBS. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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302. Information Services Department
Requests City Commission Consider January 29, 2007 For A Workshop For The
Initial Meeting With Elert & Associates, Consultants For The WiFi Project. If That
Date Is Not Acceptable We Request The City Commission Choose Another
Agreeable Date.
Regarding whether January 29, 2007 was fine with the City Commission for a
Workshop with Elert & Associates, Mayor Bush added, "6:30 [p.m.)?" Commissioner
McGinnis said, "Yes." Commissioner Krebs remarked, "Yes." No objections were
noted.
Ms. Joanne Dalka, Director, Information Services Department explained, "That same
week, there will also be some other meetings with the public. They will be held at
different locations throughout the City. We're still trying to secure the facilities for that.
We had planned on having one (1) meeting at the Civic Center, possibly, one (1) meeting
- at the Tuscawilla Country Club and possibly one (1) meeting here. And it's just for the
public to have dialogue with the Consultants.
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The Consultants will be asking questions of the public - just doing a kind of survey as to
what kinds of internet access they currently have; what they would be willing to pay for a
new service that would come in; just have a dialogue with the public so that they could
have input into this process."
Commissioner Miller said, "One (1) of the things that I would like to see addressed
during this Workshop is the approach - some serious numbers regarding the approach
where we would lease this out to somebody. Because there's been some bad publicity
that the City got over this during the last Election, where people were accusing, or
making allegations that the City was going spend three (3) or four (4) million dollars
($3,000,000.00 or $4,000,000.00) to provide this service; and I think one of things that
we all discussed very early on as being the most probable outcome would be that we
would lease it out to someone who would then manage it. That way, we wouldn't have to
incur any upfront costs, or very minimal upfront costs. So, I would like to see that
addressed, if we could, by these Consultants."
Continuing, Commissioner Miller noted, "If they are really experts, then they ought to
have data on this issue." Ms. Dalka said, "They absolutely do."
Mayor Bush said, "Item '302', we don't need to Vote on that one. We all agreed January
29th [2007], 6:30 [p.m.]."
REGULAR
303. Not Used.
Mayor Bush called a Recess at 8:30 p.m.
The Meeting was called back to Order by Mayor Bush at 8:54 p.m.
REGULAR
304. Public Works Department
Requesting The City Commission Consider An FDOT (Florida Department Of
Transportation) - Proposed Modification To The S.R. (State Road) 434/Costa Rica
Drive Intersection.
Mr. Fields spoke on this Agenda Item.
"MOTION TO APPROVE." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MILLER.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. DISCUSSION.
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MAYOR BUSH SAID, "AND THE APPROVAL MEANS - NOT TO ACCEPT
THE DOT'S (DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION'S)
RECOMMENDATIONS." COMMISSIONER MILLER SAID, "CORRECT."
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS SAID, "ACCEPT STAFF
RECOMMENDATIONS."
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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305. Community Development Department - Planning Division
Requests The City Commission Approve The Subdivision And Final Engineering
Plans And Associated Development Agreement With Tousa Homes, Inc. For Sonesta
Pointe Phases I And II.
Ms. Eloise Sahlstrom, AICP, ASLA, Senior Planner, Community Development
Department spoke on this Agenda Item.
Discussion.
MOTION TO APPROVE. MAYOR BUSH STATED, "MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER GILMORE TO APPROVE - WHICH INCLUDES THE STAFF
RECOMMENDATIONS." SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS.
DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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306. Community Development Department
Requests The City Commission Consider The Proposed Development Agreement
For The West End Professional Center. The West End Professional Center Is
Located On The South Side Of State Road 434, Immediately West Of Jesup's
Reserve In The Town Center.
Mr. Stevenson introduced this Agenda Item.
Commissioner Gilmore said, "There is going to be a wall there. How high?" Mr.
Stevenson said, "I believe it's six feet (6')." Commissioner Gilmore added, "This will
meet their requirements?" Mr. Stevenson said, "Yes."
Commissioner McGinnis briefly spoke for the Record on working on sculptures.
Mr. Stevenson said, "One (1) item I would like to mention that was inadvertently, well, it
was left off of your copy - in addition to the ten (10) items that we've talked about,
there's an added section 21. that basically speaks to the requirement for the utilities along
[State Road] 434 to be placed underground. Those overhead utilities will be placed
underground and that is covered in the Development Agreement."
Mayor Bush asked, "Is there anything in the Agreement, Randy [Stevenson] that is going
to address the dust that is kicked up by construction as it blows into the Tusca
(Tuscawilla) Trails property?"
Mr. Stevenson replied, "That's probably not an item for the Development Agreement,
Mayor, but it would be an item for construction management out there, once construction
does start; and they probably already have some of that, as you understand, a lot of the
site work on this property has already begun."
Tape 2/Side B
Continuing, Mr. Stevenson said, "Then the wall, this actual seat wall comes around and
actually goes down the entrance here so the actual separation is this much, rather than - it
appears - we have walls here and between the seat wall and the building is landscaping."
Commissioner Miller said, "One (1) of the things that we did discuss was putting seat
walls around each of these openings also, is that correct? Around the tree openings?"
Mr. Stevenson said, "I don't believe it's around everyone. I think it's around these out
here and then seat wall goes around here." Commissioner Miller noted, "I thought we
agreed we would put them around the trees."
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Furthermore, Commissioner Miller stated, "As I recall, it was agreed - that we wouldn't
require them to put in fountains - and that they would do the seat walls; so I don't recall
any of those openings being exempt from the seat wall." Mr. Stevenson said, "I will have
to go back and look at the Final Engineering that was approved." Additionally, Mr.
Stevenson remarked, "Do you want us to pull it up or just make it a condition of
Approval that they are all a seat wall." Commissioner Miller noted, "They all have to
have seat walls - all the openings. I understand they are only building one building to
start, but - when the first one is done, it should have a seat wall around each of the tree
openings." Mr. Stevenson commented, "Okay."
Discussion.
Commissioner Rick Brown inquired about the wall in the back "Dividing this property
from Tuskawilla Trails? Will it be up before construction?" With further comments,
Commissioner Brown then said, "But, there is going to be some kind of barrier during
construction?" Mr. Fields stated, "Actually there is now. And, they've agreed to leave
the existing fence up throughout construction and then - only fill when they're ready for
the brick wall. . ." Mr. Stevenson added, "... Will the fence come down?"
"I WILL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE WITH THE CONDITION
THAT THE SEAT WALLS ON - ALL OF THE TREES - ALL SIX (6) DEPICTED
ON THAT GRAPHIC THERE." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MILLER.
MAYOR BUSH NOTED, "SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER GILMORE."
DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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308. Community Development Department - City Arborist
Recommends The City Commission Consider The Request Of Conraj Letson Of 108
Atrium Court To Remove (1) One Specimen Tree Located On The Resident's
Private Lot.
Discussion.
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Mr. Mike Mingea, Arborist, Community Development Department remarked, "On
recommendations on specimen trees of this size, that they actually have replacement
replanting done prior to the time for the removal and the permitting, and I believe - Earl
[Starkey] has agreed that those will be fully - done and inspected."
"MOTION TO APPROVE." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER KREBS. MAYOR
BUSH SAID, "SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER GILMORE." DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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309. Office Of The City Clerk
Respectfully Requests That The City Commission Consider Nominating The Next
Deputy Mayor As Stipulated In The Charter Of The City Of Winter Springs,
Consistent With Actions In The Past.
Mayor Bush said, "I try to represent the City at as many events as possible. There are
times when I cannot go. The Deputy Mayor needs to go!"
"I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPOINT
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS AS THE DEPUTY MAYOR." MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER MILLER. MAYOR BUSH NOTED, "SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER GILMORE." DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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310. Community Development Department - Customer Service Division
In Accordance With Emergency Ordinance Number 2006-08, Requests The City
Commission Consider An Appeal Of A Staff Decision To Deny A Building Permit
On The Basis Of Neighborhood Compatibility And Harmony Involving A Proposed
Two-Story Addition To The House Located At 1110 Pheasant Circle.
Ms. Kim Trench, Manager, Customer Service Division, Community Development
Department addressed the City Commission.
Mr. Warren Gagne, 1110 Pheasant Circle, Winter Springs, Florida: addressed the City
Commission regarding the proposed two-story addition to his residence.
Much discussion.
Attorney Garganese said, "I needed to state for the Record - that Ordinance was amended
- [Ordinance] 2006-22, extended that Ordinance for another six (6) months."
Commissioner Gilmore noted, "I have pictures here." Commissioner Gilmore continued,
"I - went around the neighborhood this morning and took pictures of several two-story
homes."
Further discussion.
Tape 3/Side A
Discussion.
"MY MOTION IS TO UPHOLD STAFF'S DECISION." MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER KREBS. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER GILMORE.
DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Mayor Bush said, "We need to be fair to people and tell them what the rules are so when
they come up here."
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Further comments.
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311. Information Services Department
Requests Whether They Wish To Replace The Chambers Overhead Document
Camera At A Cost Of $13,000.00.
Mr. Chris Edwards, Project and Application Support Specialist, Information Services
Department introduced this Agenda Item.
Discussion.
Commissioner Miller said, "If we put a high intensity light up there, that could be
activated when we have these things on the table, would that compensate for this problem
that you're addressing?" Ms. Dalka said, "I don't know. We could try it."
Commissioner Miller added, "I think it might be a better way to do it because I can't
think of too many documents, I can think of a couple, and I don't know why it happened,
but ninety percent (90%), ninety-nine (99), the majority, overwhelming majority of the
stuff that we look at is clear." Commissioner Miller added, "So, I would suggest maybe
putting a high intensity light up there so that would automatically activate."
"MOTION NOT TO APPROVE THIS UNTIL WE INVESTIGATE THE OTHER
OPTIONS." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BROWN. SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER MILLER. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Ms. Dalka said, "Additional monies for that? Do you want me to come back at the next
Meeting or do you just want to appropriate some money for that because there will be
costs?" Manager McLemore commented, "Just find out what it's going to cost and then
we'll deal with it."
Continuing, Manager McLemore stated, "Why don't you all just appropriate us a said
amount of money and ifit's going to go over that, we'll come back to you." Mayor Bush
asked, "How much?" Manager McLemore said, "Make it twenty-five hundred [dollars)
($2,500.00). "
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"MOTION NOT TO EXCEED TWENTY-FIVE HUNDRED DOLLARS ($2,500.00)
FOR A HIGH INTENSITY LIGHT." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER KREBS.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BROWN. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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CONSENT
400. Information Services Department
Requests Authorization To Move Forward With SAN (Storage Area Network)
Project In The Amount Of $19,881.00 With AsysTech Incorporated.
No discussion.
CONSENT
401. Utility Department
Requesting Authorization To Utilize The Consulting Services Of SMW GeoSciences,
Inc. For Hydrogeological And Environmental Technical Assistance Relating To The
Potable Water Consumptive Use Permit Application With The St. Johns River
Water Management District.
There was no discussion on this Agenda Item.
CONSENT
402. Public Works Department
Requesting Authorization To Piggyback Off Of Seminole County Contract Number
IFB-3110-05/GMG For Repairs To The Edgemon Avenue/S.R. (State Road) 419
Traffic Signal Mast Arms.
Brief discussion.
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CONSENT
403. Utility Department
Requesting Approval To Purchase A Vehicle By Piggybacking Off Of The Florida
Sheriff Association, Florida Association Of Counties And Florida Fire Chief's
Association Bid Number 06-14-0821.
This Agenda Item was not discussed.
CONSENT
404. Public Works Department
Requests The City Commission Validate The Staff Recommendation Finding
Harbor Winds To Be Built In Substantial Accordance With The Final Engineering
Plans And To Accept The Potable Water And Sanitary Sewer Infrastructure For
Ownership And Maintenance.
No discussion.
CONSENT
405.1. Public Works Department
Requests The City Commission Validate The Staff Recommendation Finding
Jesup's Reserve, Phase I To Be Built In Substantial Accordance With The Final
Engineering Plans, To Accept The Public Roads, Potable Water, And Sanitary
Sewer Infrastructure For Ownership And Maintenance, And To Authorize
Transportation Impact Fee Credits To Levitt & Sons In The Amount Of
$189,354.16 For The Design And Construction Of The Collector Road (McLeods
Way) Per The Developer's Agreement.
There was no discussion on this Agenda Item.
CONSENT
405.2. Community Development Department
Requests The City Commission Approve The Replat To The Jesup's Reserve Final
Subdivision Plat And Authorize Its Recordation.
This Agenda Item was not discussed.
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CONSENT
406. Parks And Recreation Department
Requests Approval From The City Commission To Proceed With Planning A
Valentine Event "Dancing Under The Stars" On Saturday, February 17, 2007 At
The Winter Springs Town Center.
Commissioner Gilmore said, "I think that we need to take a good look at where the stage
is located and all of the logistics of letting people see this performance." Commissioner
Gilmore continued, "Take a look and see if we can't do something that you can at least
see - because at the Fall Event you could not see anything unless you were right
absolutely in front. Maybe turn that around and face it the other way on the street or do
something; but take a look at it."
CONSENT
407. Police Department
Requests That The City Commission Approve The Receipt Of $10,000.00 Of Grant
Revenue (FY (Fiscal Year) 07)) And Expenditure Of $13,065.00 From The Law
Enforcement Trust Fund To Be Used Towards The Purchase Of A 2007 Chevrolet 1
(One) - Ton Crew Cab Truck For The Community Services Bureau.
No discussion.
CONSENT
408. Police Department
Requesting City Commission Approval For Expenditure Of Funds To Lease
Purchase 20 (Twenty) Police Vehicles Approved In The Current Budget.
Brief discussion followed with Chief of Police Daniel 1. Kerr.
CONSENT
409. Public Works Department - Stormwater Division
Requests City Commission Authorization To Enter Into An Interlocal Agreement
With Seminole County And The Cities Of Altamonte Springs, Casselberry, Lake
Mary, Longwood, Sanford, And Oviedo, Providing Intergovernmental Cooperation
On Stormwater Total Maximum Daily Load (TMDL) - Related Implementation
Activities.
With discussion, Commissioner Krebs said, "You know what I am really concerned
about? When we have our rainstorms and if you go - straight down, the end of
Tuskawilla Road - this big pond kind of thing is there.
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I don't know what you call it, but it looks like a basin and everything - drains into this or
floods into it and then this spills into Lake Jesup - and so what I am envisioning is all of
the run-off in the road, which is the oil, which is all that kind of junk, and then now - we
have a lot of homes in that area, as well as a lot more homes where there's going to be
fertilizers, etc, etc. dumping in." Commissioner Krebs added, "So, what I am wondering
is what we are doing as a City to prevent that and especially right there where I can see it
- it is so obvious."
With further discussion, Commissioner Krebs said, "So, I was just wondering, if there is
something that we as a City could do?"
Mr. Fields remarked, "There are some areas that don't have treatment facilities, and
through TMDL (Total Maximum Daily Load), one option is to retro-fit those facilities.
Another option is to create more regional sewer water options. Those are being studied
now."
CONSENT
410. Information Services Department
Requests Additional Appropriation In The Amount Of $10,000.00 For Any
Additional Expenses Related To WiFi Project.
Discussion.
CONSENT
411. Utility Department
Requesting Approval To Purchase From The United States General Services
Administration (GSA) Contract An Emergency Bypass Pump To Be Used For
Wastewater Lift Stations.
There was no discussion on this Agenda Item.
CONSENT
412. UtilitylPublic Works Department
Requests City Commission Approve An Interlocal Agreement With The Seminole
County School Board For Fueling City Vehicles And Equipment.
This Agenda Item was not discussed.
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CONSENT
413. UtilitylPubIic Works Department
Requesting Approval For Payment To Progress Energy For The Installation Of
Underground Electrical Lines And Ground Mounted Transformers In The Amount
Of $21,655.11.
No discussion.
CONSENT
414. Office Of The City Clerk
Requesting Approval Of The November 27, 2006 Regular City Commission Meeting
Minutes.
There was no discussion on this Agenda Item.
"MOTION TO APPROVE." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER KREBS.
SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
INFORMATIONAL AGENDA
lNFORMA TIONAL
500. Community Development Department
Advising The City Commission Of The Status Of Various Current Planning
Projects.
This Agenda Item was not discussed.
lNFORMA TlONAL
501. Parks And Recreation Department
Wishes To Inform The City Commission About The Winter Springs Health And
Fitness Expo.
There was not discussion on this Agenda Item.
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INFORMATIONAL
502. Parks And Recreation Department
Requests That The City Commission Review Information Regarding The Increased
Utility Fee Charges To Parks And Recreation For Gym Use Of Three Middle
Schools By The Seminole County School Board.
Discussion.
Tape 3/Side B
With discussion, Manager McLemore said, "What do you want us to do?" Mayor Bush
said, "Not pay it." Deputy Mayor McGinnis added, "Not pay it."
Manager McLemore said, "If we do not pay it, then they can say, 'Well, you can't use the
gym.' So, my suggestion is that we need to try to develop some more information, have
us sit down with these people and I'm glad you're all upset Mayor, because I was going
to ask you - maybe you and I would meet with the Superintendent and have some
discussion about what this is all about and why is it happening and what are our
alternatives. "
With further comments, Mayor Bush said, "We will talk to them - we will talk to the
School Board members."
Mayor Bush asked, "Motion to approve Informational [Agenda]?"
"MOTION TO APPROVE." MOTION BY DEPUTY MA YOR McGINNIS.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER GILMORE. DISCUSSION. MAYOR BUSH
REMARKED, "WITH THAT ONE ON '502', WE'RE GOING TO NIX THAT
ONE, RIGHT?"
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
In other city business, Mayor Bush stated, "I met with three (3) members of the -
Homeowner's Association this last Friday."
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Mr. Larry Chumra, 634 Jeffery Court, Winter Springs, Florida: addressed the City
Commission representing the Highlands Homeowner's Association and stated, "Let me
state for the Record, as a representative of the Highlands Homeowner's Association, that
we hold no antagonistic view towards this Commission, the Mayor, or the City Manager.
Also, we have no political axe to grind with any of you. Misinformation and the lack of
due diligence on the part of individuals on our Board of Directors, including myself, have
led us to believe erroneously that the City Commission, the Mayor, and City Manager do
not have the best interests of the Highlands at heart.
Likewise, the Commission has been led to believe that our Board of Directors holds an
antagonistic view of you. These viewpoints are false. I have brought a letter from our
President which states our concerns. I respectfully request that the Commission review
this letter and help us to clear up any and all misunderstandings that exist between us.
From this day forward, our Association will endeavor to appoint a liaison to attend future
Commission Meetings so that we can enjoy an amicable relationship and put to rest any
ill feelings that may have jeopardized our relationship. And I thank you for this
opportunity. "
Mayor Bush read a letter from the Highlands Homeowner's Association.
Discussion ensued on holding a possible Attorney-Client Session; to which Attorney
Garganese said he would need to get with some of the involved parties. Commissioner
Miller said, "I would suggest sometime early January."
Mayor Bush said, "I think at this point we kind of leave it in Anthony's (Garganese)
hands to make the contacts." Mayor Bush added, "Is everybody in agreement with
that?" Commissioner Krebs said, "Yes, but I think we need to not let it linger, either."
No objections were noted.
REPORTS
REPORTS
600. Office Of The City Attorney - Anthony A. Garganese, Esquire
Attorney Garganese said, "Regarding the Highlands, I did forward a copy of the Hearing
Transcript to all of the Commissioners."
Secondly, Attorney Garganese remarked, "We filed an extensive response to Mr. Jones'
Appeal regarding the Stormwater Fee."
Thirdly, Attorney Garganese noted, "The Planning and Zoning Board, last Wednesday,
recommended approval of the Cell Tower Ordinance revisions. That will be coming to
you the first Meeting in January."
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Next, Attorney Garganese explained, "The mediation has been scheduled in the case Roy
v. City of Winter Springs, Florida, Power & Light, and Seville Chase Homeowner's
Association for that landlocked parcel. That's going to be coming up in late January."
Related to the Binford v. City of Winter Springs Case, Attorney Garganese continued,
"Court granted Summary Judgment in the City's favor - so we have won that particular
Case; and the Case is over unless Mr. Binford decides to Appeal or file another Case."
Further discussion.
REPORTS
601. Office Of The City Manager - Ronald W. McLemore
Manager McLemore said, "I have made contact with Victor Dover about doing an update
and training session on Town Center - his idea is, 1 believe is for January the 17th [2007].
On [January] the 18th [2007], in Winter Park - 1 believe it's at Rollins College, they're
doing again this year, the 'Town Center' 101' basic course; and his idea was while
they're here, if we can do this on the 17th [December 2007], would we like to invite the
other cities to come and listen to the presentation to you - probably about a four (4) hour
seminar. "
Regarding the time for this to be held, Mayor Bush asked the City Commission, "Ten
(10) o'clock [a.m.]?" No objections were noted. Manager McLemore said, "10:00-2:00?
That'll be fine. We'll eat lunch in." Mayor Bush said, "10:00-2:00."
Next, Manager McLemore mentioned the start time for the Regular Meeting of January 8,
2007.
REPORTS
602. Office Of The City Clerk - Andrea Lorenzo-Luaces, CMC
City Clerk Lorenzo-Luaces reminded the City Commission about the Photo Session
scheduled for tomorrow, Tuesday, December 12,2006.
Next, City Clerk Lorenzo-Luaces reminded the City Commission of the "Shop with a
Cop" scheduled for this Saturday, December 16, 2006. With further brief discussion on
transportation, Commissioner McGinnis said, "I will go." Commissioner Krebs added, "I
will go. 1 will be there."
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REPORTS
603. Commission Seat Three - Donald A. Gilmore
Commissioner Gilmore brought up the issue of a burned out house, to which Mr.
Stevenson said, "Commissioner, I'll get you an update on it. I don't have one (1) tonight
for you." Mr. Stevenson added, "They were supposed to have a Building Permit by the
end of November. To my knowledge they don't have one, but I'll confirm that tomorrow
and check on it."
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Next, Commissioner Gilmore commented on Deed Restrictions.
Lastly, Commissioner Gilmore spoke about previous comments made by Mr. Chase.
REPORTS
604. Commission Seat Four - Sally McGinnis
Commissioner McGinnis commented briefly on frivolous lawsuits. Brief discussion.
Next, Commissioner McGinnis said, "Happy New Year everybody."
REPORTS
605. Commission Seat Five - Joanne M. Krebs
Commissioner Krebs thanked Manager McLemore for his gift.
Continuing, Commissioner Krebs said, "I would like an item to be placed on the next
Agenda, if possible, regarding digital audio recordings of Meetings and putting them on
the Web, if we could look at that - digital audio recordings. And you put them on the
Web and people can listen to the meeting; they don't view them, but they get to listen to
them. I don't believe it's all that expensive, but I would like to explore it and maybe just
bring some information to the Commission."
With further comments by City Clerk Lorenzo-Luaces and Mr. Edwards, Commissioner
Krebs added, "If we could just - bring that up for discussion next Meeting."
Commissioner Krebs said, "I did want to mention that I think we need to be paying
attention to some of the handicap challenges that are out there - I think that person who
was here tonight and said she couldn't get into City Hall, is that something that we can do
or is that very expensive to do - they can't open the door. There is a button or something
that somehow automatically can open for them." Manager McLemore noted, "I agree."
Lastly, Commissioner Krebs mentioned a resident's home that burned down in Oak
Forest two (2) years ago.
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REPORTS
606. Office Of The Mayor - John F. Bush
Mayor Bush spoke of signage outside City Hall for handicapped access.
Next, Mayor Bush spoke of rental car surcharges and a Charter County Transportation
Surtax. Manager McLemore asked what it related to.
Continuing, Mayor Bush remarked about comments made on the Trail issue through the
wetlands.
Lastly, Mayor Bush mentioned he had just had lunch at the University of Central Florida
with a parking garage expert and suggested they meet with Manager McLemore to
further discuss this issue.
REPORTS
607. Commission Seat One - Robert S. Miller
No Report.
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GIVEN NEXT, FOLLOWED BY THE REST OF REPORTS. .:..:.
REPORTS
REPORTS
606. Office Of The Mayor - John F. Bush
Mayor Bush said to City Clerk Lorenzo- Luaces, "On my light, it still says 'Blake'."
REPORTS
608. Commission Seat Two - Rick Brown
Commissioner Brown commented on tonight's extensive Agenda.
Secondly, Commissioner Brown thanked Manager McLemore for the Report on the
Therapy Pool.
Commissioner Brown then asked, "Where are we with the Trotwood noise abatement
discussions?" Manager McLemore stated, "It's coming back to you in January."
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Mayor Bush said, "Along that same lines, I would like to make sure that we notify the
Sybilwood people of when that is going to be on the Commission's Agenda, because I
know that some of them want to be here to address the Commission."
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GIVEN NEXT, FOLLOWED BY THE REST OF REPORTS. .:..:.
REPORTS
REPORTS
601. Office Of The City Manager - Ronald W. McLemore
Manager McLemore said, "We had the bids come in on Blumberg Boulevard and they
are substantially higher than what we budgeted a couple of years ago for this project,
which again, was not a surprise. So what we're trying to now is going back and elevate
the bids and then be able to come back to you in January - with some alternatives on how
to deal with that. And it's just going to take a little time to work through the bids and see
what options are available to us."
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GIVEN NEXT, FOLLOWED BY THE REST OF REPORTS. .:..:.
REPORTS
REPORTS
606. Office Of The Mayor - John F. Bush
Mayor Bush asked, "One (1) other thing, I just noticed this - Commissioners, did you see
the letter from the Chair of Planning and Zoning [Board/Local Planning Agency],
Rosanne Karr.
I will just go ahead and read it to you. It is addressed to Mayor and the Commissioners.
It was delivered on the 6th [December 2006]. 'In summary of our decision of the Don
King property. The Board voted 3-2 in favor of the item and the motion was carried,
with Tom Brown and Denise Ryser voting against the change to the property. Their
votes are explained as the change/addition of another structure to the Don King property
may not be 'aesthetically pleasing'. Chairperson, Roseanne Karr'."
Mayor Bush asked City Clerk Lorenzo-Luaces whether the Commission received copies,
to which said, City Clerk Lorenzo-Luaces noted, "They will have a copy tomorrow."
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ADJOURNMENT
Mayor Bush adjourned the Regular Meeting at 11 :22 p.m.
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RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED:
DANIELLE HARKER, ASSISTANT TO THE CITY CLERK AND
ANDREA LORENZO-LUACES, CMC
CITY CLERK
APPROVED:
JOHN F. BUSH
MAYOR
NOTE: These Minutes were approved at the
, 2007 Regular City Commission Meeting.
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CALL TO ORDER
The Regular Meeting of Monday, December 11,2006 of the City Commission was called
to Order by Mayor John F. Bush at 6:30 p.m. in the Commission Chambers of the
Municipal Building (City Hall, 1126 East State Road 434, Winter Springs, Florida
32708).
Roll Call:
Mayor John F. Bush, present
Commissioner Robert S. Miller, present
Commissioner Rick Brown, present
Commissioner Donald A. Gilmore, present
Commissioner Sally McGinnis, arrived at 7:05 p.m.
Commissioner Joanne M. Krebs, present
City Manager Ronald W. McLemore, present
City Attorney Anthony A. Garganese, arrived at 6:35 p.m.
Mayor Bush recognized Boy Scout Troop 613 and after a Moment of Silence, Troop 613
led the Pledge of Allegiance.
Under "Agenda Changes", Mayor Bush mentioned that Commissioner Sally McGinnis
would be a little late, and he was going to switch Regular Agenda Item '''307' with '300',
so we will take up '307' first."
Mayor Bush recognized former Commissioner Edward Martinez, Jr. who was In
attendance.
PUBLIC INPUT
Mr. Edward Martinez, Jr., 205 Little Creek Lane, Winter Springs, Florida: commented
on an article in the November 30, 2006 edition of the 'Winter Springs Voice' about
giving tax dollars to Chambers of Commerce.
Brief discussion.
City Attorney Anthony A. Garganese arrived at 6:35 p.m.
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Mr. Mervin Warner, 673 Keuka Court, Winter Springs, Florida: brought up comments
from a Tuscawilla Homeowner's Association meeting discussion related to Traffic
Calming.
Mr. Stephen Thompson, 810 Dyson Drive, Winter Springs, Florida: said Mr. Damon
Chase would speak for him.
Mr. Steven Humbarger, 988 Shetland Avenue, Winter Springs, Florida: thanked the City
Commission for their contributions; spoke of Shetland A venue and Traffic Calming;
commented for the Record that he remains against sidewalks; recommended that stop
signs be used at intersections; and hoped a Straw Ballot would be distributed to affected
residents.
Mr. Bob Rucci, 973 Turkey Hollow Circle, Winter Springs, Florida: commented on
Regular Agenda Item '301', that he offered to assist with any design issues; and noted for
the Record they were in favor of this location.
Mr. Tom Waters, 1033 Antelope Trail, Winter Springs, Florida: spoke on Regular
Agenda Item '310'; commented on the proposed garage addition; and suggested the City
Commission be cautious in making their decisions.
Ms. Beth Hattaway, 900 Arabian Avenue, Winter Springs, Florida: said she was in favor
of Sidewalks and Traffic Calming; and felt there is a speeding problem in this area.
Mr. Mike Hattaway, 900 Arabian Avenue, Winter Springs, Florida: also noted his
concern with speeding drivers and safety concerns; and commented on Fisher Road.
Mr. Roger Fisher, 800 Dyson Drive, Winter Springs, Florida: did not address the City
Commission; however, Mayor Bush said, "Roger is opposed to the Traffic Calming."
Ms. Connie Nadrowski, 915 Dyson Drive, Winter Springs, Florida: commented on
recently noted pedestrian accidents; noted problems she had with trimming her shrubbery
around her mailbox; and said she was in support of the Dog Park."
Mr. Jack Yoder, 914 Arabian Avenue, Winter Springs, Florida: spoke in opposition to
the proposed Traffic Calming devices.
Mr. Fred Barone, 339 Mohawk Trail, Winter Springs, Florida: as a resident of
Tuscawilla Trails, Mr. Barone commented on the new condos being built at Jesup's
Reserve and asked that a concrete wall be built to preserve their security.
Mr. Albert Mirand, 358 Mohawk Trail, Winter Springs, Florida: also as a resident of
Tuscawilla Trails, Mr. Mirand asked that a wall be built between their community and
Jesup's Reserve.
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Commissioner Joanne M. Krebs told Mr. Barone that she had received his letter and had
tried to call him, and added, "If you would like me to call you, I will more than happy to,
but give me a time when I can reach you."
Mr. Moti Khemlani, 605 Morgan Street, Winter Springs, Florida: commented on the
Commission's decision; and said that Seminole County money could be better used on
other similar projects; and added that the City Commission should stick with their
original decision.
Commissioner McGinnis arrived at 7:05 p.m.
Ms. Janet Putnam, 955 Dyson Drive Winter Springs, Florida: did not address the City
Commission; but, Mayor Bush said, "You are in favor of it."
Mr. Larry Nadrowski, 915 Dyson Drive, Winter Springs, Florida: commented that he
was in favor of Sidewalks and Traffic Calming; felt there was misinformation out there
on this issue; and said there was a speeding problem on Dyson Drive.
Mr. Michael Saporito, 607 Morgan Street, Winter Springs, Florida: commented on
polling residents of Dyson Drive and Morgan Street; and did not think this really was a
dangerous area.
Ms. Carol Saporito, 607 Morgan Street, Winter Springs, Florida: Mayor Bush stated,
"Carol Saporito does not wish to address the Commission and is opposed."
Dr. Jeff Bos, 820 Dyson Drive, Winter Springs, Florida: Mayor Bush stated, "Is opposed
to the Traffic Calming and does not wish to address the Commission."
Ms. Pamela Carroll, 865 Dyson Drive, Winter Springs, Florida: commented on the
Traffic Calming issues; asked to see the statistics on the Poll; did not think there was a
speeding problem; and commented on requesting to see Minutes from a Tuscawilla
Homeowner's Association meeting related to whether there was a Vote taken on this
Issue.
Ms. Dana and Allan Jones, 902 Arabian Avenue, Winter Springs, Florida: Mayor Bush
stated, "Are opposed to the Dyson Drive Traffic Calming and do not wish to address the
Commission. "
Ms. Dana Jones, 902 Arabian Avenue, Winter Springs, Florida: spoke in opposition to
the Traffic Calming and mentioned that if another Straw Ballot was taken, to include
residents on Morgan Street, Pinto Court, and Shetland A venue.
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Ms. Jill McGaugh, 223 Oakwood Drive, Casselberry, Florida: asked why this building
did not have button access at the doors for handicapped individuals.
Ms. Colleen Smith, 920 Dyson Drive, Winter Springs, Florida: Mayor Bush stated, "Is
opposed to the Traffic Calming and does not wish to address the Commission."
Ms. Maria Romer, 1043 Northern Way, Winter Springs, Florida: Mayor Bush stated, "Is
opposed to Traffic Calming and does not wish to address the Commission."
Ms. Martha Pultz and Dr. Lawrence Pultz, 1039 Northern Way, Winter Springs, Florida:
Mayor Bush stated, "Are opposed to the Traffic Calming and do not wish to address the
Commission. "
AWARDS AND PRESENTATIONS
AWARDS AND PRESENTATIONS
100. Office Of The City Manager
Presentation Of Employee Recognition Awards To City Of Winter Springs
Employees.
With the assistance of the City Commission, Mayor Bush and City Manager Ronald W.
McLemore presented Employee Recognition Awards to Employees (or their family) who
were in attendance. The following City of Winter Springs Employees were eligible for
recognition:
5 Years Of Service:
Ms. Angie Ashley, Public Works Department; Mr. Chris Carson, Parks and Recreation
Department; Ms. Desiree DeBois, Finance Department; and Mr. Daniel Lynch, Jr.,
Utility Department.
10 Years Of Service:
Ms. Lori Anello, Police Department; Ms. Desiree Johnson, Police Department; Mr.
Robert Keene, Fire Department; and Ms. Allison Swain, Police Department.
15 Years Of Service:
Mr. Bob Eckman, Public Works Department; and Ms. Bonita Roberts, Parks and
Recreation Department.
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20 Years Of Service:
Ms. Edith Farnum, Police Department; and Ms. Nancy Vobornik, General Services
Department
25 Years Of Service:
Mr. Skip Lazlo, Fire Department; and Mr. Joe McGaugh, Public Works Department
(accepted posthumously by his widow Ms. Jill McGaugh).
.:..:. AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING REGULAR AGENDA ITEM WAS
DISCUSSED NEXT, FOLLOWED BY THE REST OF THE AGENDA. .:..:.
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307. Community Development Department
Requests The City Commission Consider The Proposed Development Agreement
Modification For The Vistawilla Office Center, Located On The South Side Of SR
(State Road) 434, Just West Of The GreeneWay Interchange.
Mr. Randy Stevenson, ASLA, Director, Community Development Department
introduced this Agenda Item.
Discussion.
Mr. Tom Corkery, 759 Bear Creek Circle, Winter Springs, Florida: addressed the City
Commission on this Agenda Item.
Discussion followed on sidewalks and setbacks.
Commissioner McGinnis asked, "This chain link fence, is that going to be permanent?"
Mr. Corkery stated, "No."
Further discussion.
"MOTION TO APPROVE." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS.
MAYOR BUSH STATED, "SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER GILMORE."
DISCUSSION.
ON THE SIDEWALK ISSUE, COMMISSIONER MILLER SUGGESTED, "I
WOULD APPRECIATE IT IF HAD MORE ATTENTION TO DETAIL IN THE
FUTURE."
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VOTE:
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: NAY
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Discussion ensued on the landscaping.
PUBLIC HEARINGS AGENDA
PUBLIC HEARINGS
200. Community Development Department - Customer Service Division And
Office Of The City Attorney
Request That The City Commission Hold A Public Hearing For Second
Reading/Adoption Of Ordinance Number 2006-23, Which Amends The Winter
Springs Code Of Ordinances, Changing The Term "Occupational License Tax" To
"Local Business Tax", Consistent With Florida Law.
Attorney Garganese read the Ordinance by "Title" only.
Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
No one spoke.
Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
"I WILL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE." MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER MILLER. MAYOR BUSH STATED, "SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER GILMORE." DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN : AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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300. Public Works Department
Requesting The City Commission To Consider A Second Straw Ballot For The
Proposed Dyson Drive Traffic Calming Project.
Mr. Damon A. Chase, Esquire, 250 International Parkway, Suite 250, Lake Mary,
Florida: addressed the City Commission.
Tape 2/Side A
Discussion.
Mr. Brian Fields, P.E., City Engineer, Public Works Department said, "We can certainly
do a Workshop; discuss Traffic Calming; bring in our experts." Commissioner McGinnis
remarked, "The Pros and Cons; what these are like." Mr. Fields continued, "Certainly.
That was done for this project in the PBS&J (Corporation) Report. They went through
the whole menu of Traffic Calming options. Unfortunately, it's not like Fisher Road.
Fisher Road is a new road where you could adjust the alignment of the pavement to - it's
a meandering road in itself. So it's very difficult to compare that to a retro-fit situation.
PBS&J (Corporation) went through each of those options; they analyzed the pros and
cons and they arrived at this design. However, we can bring in Glatting Jackson [Kercher
Anglin Lopez Rinehart, Inc.] to work with us on this one and do a Workshop, if that's
what the Commission directs us to do."
Commissioner McGinnis said, "I think it's important that we get it right. It is going to be
there a long time and I would like to do that. I would support that."
With further discussion, Commissioner Krebs said, "So I really would like to see, if we
really do believe we need Traffic Calming, that we actually do a Traffic Calming study
and I also would like all of the neighbors that live in the area to be a part of it."
Discussion.
Commissioner Robert S. Miller said, "I think the Workshop might be the appropriate
way, because of the first Ballot that went out seems like it was 54-45 which is - when we
first went ahead and approved it, it was based on safety overall. But, now that you look
at the overall data, it was clear, the majority didn't want the Traffic Calming. And it was
even questioned whether they wanted the sidewalk or not. But, the sidewalk was a safety
issue. So, I think it might be appropriate to have a Workshop, get more input."
Commissioner McGinnis said, "I agree. I would like a Workshop."
Further discussion.
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"I WAS GOING TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE TAKE THIS TO A
WORKSHOP AND NOT GO ANY FURTHER; NOT WASTE THE CITY'S
MONEY ON A STRAW BALLOT AT THIS POINT IN TIME." MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER KREBS. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MILLER.
DISCUSSION.
COMMISSIONER DONALD A. GILMORE SAID, "WE PREVIOUSL Y
APPROVED THIS TO BE BUILT. WE ARE NOW GOING TO GO TO A
WORKSHOP. SO, IF I CAN BE CLEAR, I THINK WE ARE SENDING IT TO A
WORKSHOP TO RESOLVE HOW WE WANT TO BUILD IT. IS THIS NOT
CORRECT?" COMMISSIONER KREBS SAID, "NO."
MANAGER McLEMORE SAID, "YOU CAN DO WHATEVER YOU DESIRE TO
DO. NOW, HERE ARE YOUR OPTIONS: ONE (1), YOU CAN SAY, 'PUT
EVERYTHING ON HOLD. WE WANT TO STUDY THIS FURTHER'; AND
THAT WILL PUT EVERYTHING ON HOLD." COMMISSIONER KREBS
SAID, "THAT IS MY MOTION." MANAGER McLEMORE CONTINUED,
"OKAY. BUT IF YOUR MOTION WAS, 'WE DO NOT WANT TO HAVE
ANOTHER BALLOT'; YOU STILL HAVE THAT OTHER APPROVAL OUT
THERE THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO UNDO. SO, THE QUESTION -
IF YOUR ANSWER IS, 'WE WOULD LIKE TO STUDY THIS FURTHER',
THEN EVERYTHING GETS PUT ON HOLD." COMMISSIONER KREBS SAID,
"NOT THE SIDEWALKS."
MAYOR BUSH NOTED, "NO STRAW BALLOT; AND A WORKSHOP."
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Mr. Chase stated, "Mayor, can I be informed of the time and the place of the Workshop
and all that." Mayor Bush said, "We post all of our Meetings." Mayor Bush continued,
"Andrea [Lorenzo-Luaces, City Clerk], would you let Mr. Chase know when a Workshop
is scheduled?" City Clerk Lorenzo-Luaces stated, "Sure."
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REGULAR
301. Parks And Recreation Department
Requesting The City Commission Approval To Proceed With The Planning For A
Permanent Dog Park On The Central Winds Expansion Property (Wincey) Per The
Attached Concept Master Plan.
Mr. Chuck Pula, Director, Parks and Recreation Department addressed this Agenda Item
with the City Commission.
Commissioner Krebs asked, "Does it cost more to get - nicer looking plans?" Brief
discussion.
Continuing, Commissioner McGinnis remarked, "Good job Chuck [Pula]."
"MOTION TO APPROVE THIS LOCATION." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER
MILLER. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER KREBS. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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302. Information Services Department
Requests City Commission Consider January 29, 2007 For A Workshop For The
Initial Meeting With Elert & Associates, Consultants For The WiFi Project. If That
Date Is Not Acceptable We Request The City Commission Choose Another
Agreeable Date.
Regarding whether January 29, 2007 was fine with the City Commission for a
Workshop with Elert & Associates, Mayor Bush added, "6:30 [p.m.]?" Commissioner
McGinnis said, "Yes." Commissioner Krebs remarked, "Yes." No objections were
noted.
Ms. Joanne Dalka, Director, Information Services Department explained, "That same
week, there will also be some other meetings with the public. They will be held at
different locations throughout the City. We're still trying to secure the facilities for that.
We had planned on having one (1) meeting at the Civic Center, possibly, one (1) meeting
- at the Tuscawilla Country Club and possibly one (1) meeting here. And it's just for the
public to have dialogue with the Consultants.
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The Consultants will be asking questions of the public - just doing a kind of survey as to
what kinds of internet access they currently have; what they would be willing to pay for a
new service that would come in; just have a dialogue with the public so that they could
have input into this process."
Commissioner Miller said, "One (1) of the things that I would like to see addressed
during this Workshop is the approach - some serious numbers regarding the approach
where we would lease this out to somebody. Because there's been some bad publicity
that the City got over this during the last Election, where people were accusing, or
making allegations that the City was going spend three (3) or four (4) million dollars
($3,000,000.00 or $4,000,000.00) to provide this service; and I think one of things that
we all discussed very early on as being the most probable outcome would be that we
would lease it out to someone who would then manage it. That way, we wouldn't have to
incur any upfront costs, or very minimal upfront costs. So, I would like to see that
addressed, if we could, by these Consultants."
Continuing, Commissioner Miller noted, "If they are really experts, then they ought to
have data on this issue." Ms. Dalka said, "They absolutely do."
Mayor Bush said, "Item '302', we don't need to Vote on that one. We all agreed January
29th [2007], 6:30 [p.m.]."
REGULAR
303. Not Used.
Mayor Bush called a Recess at 8:30 p.m.
The Meeting was called back to Order by Mayor Bush at 8:54 p.m.
REGULAR
304. Public Works Department
Requesting The City Commission Consider An FDOT (Florida Department Of
Transportation) - Proposed Modification To The S.R. (State Road) 434/Costa Rica
Drive Intersection.
Mr. Fields spoke on this Agenda Item.
"MOTION TO APPROVE." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MILLER.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. DISCUSSION.
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MAYOR BUSH SAID, "AND THE APPROVAL MEANS - NOT TO ACCEPT
THE DOT'S (DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION'S)
RECOMMENDATIONS." COMMISSIONER MILLER SAID, "CORRECT."
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS SAID, "ACCEPT STAFF
RECOMMENDATIONS."
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
REGULAR
305. Community Development Department - Planning Division
Requests The City Commission Approve The Subdivision And Final Engineering
Plans And Associated Development Agreement With Tousa Homes, Inc. For Sonesta
Pointe Phases I And II.
Ms. Eloise Sahlstrom, AICP, ASLA, Senior Planner, Community Development
Department spoke on this Agenda Item.
Discussion.
MOTION TO APPROVE. MAYOR BUSH ST A TED, "MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER GILMORE TO APPROVE - WHICH INCLUDES THE STAFF
RECOMMENDATIONS." SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS.
DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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306. Community Development Department
Requests The City Commission Consider The Proposed Development Agreement
For The West End Professional Center. The West End Professional Center Is
Located On The South Side Of State Road 434, Immediately West Of Jesup's
Reserve In The Town Center.
Mr. Stevenson introduced this Agenda Item.
Commissioner Gilmore said, "There is going to be a wall there. How high?" Mr.
Stevenson said, "I believe it's six feet (6')." Commissioner Gilmore added, "This will
meet their requirements?" Mr. Stevenson said, "Yes."
Commissioner McGinnis briefly spoke for the Record on working on sculptures.
Mr. Stevenson said, "One (1) item I would like to mention that was inadvertently, well, it
was left off of your copy - in addition to the ten (10) items that we've talked about,
there's an added section 21. that basically speaks to the requirement for the utilities along
[State Road] 434 to be placed underground. Those overhead utilities will be placed
underground and that is covered in the Development Agreement."
Mayor Bush asked, "Is there anything in the Agreement, Randy [Stevenson] that is going
to address the dust that is kicked up by construction as it blows into the Tusca
(Tuscawilla) Trails property?"
Mr. Stevenson replied, "That's probably not an item for the Development Agreement,
Mayor, but it would be an item for construction management out there, once construction
does start; and they probably already have some of that, as you understand, a lot of the
site work on this property has already begun."
Tape 2/Side B
Continuing, Mr. Stevenson said, "Then the wall, this actual seat wall comes around and
actually goes down the entrance here so the actual separation is this much, rather than - it
appears - we have walls here and between the seat wall and the building is landscaping."
Commissioner Miller said, "One (1) of the things that we did discuss was putting seat
walls around each of these openings also, is that correct? Around the tree openings?"
Mr. Stevenson said, "I don't believe it's around everyone. I think it's around these out
here and then seat wall goes around here." Commissioner Miller noted, "I thought we
agreed we would put them around the trees."
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Furthermore, Commissioner Miller stated, "As 1 recall, it was agreed - that we wouldn't
require them to put in fountains - and that they would do the seat walls; so 1 don't recall
any of those openings being exempt from the seat wall." Mr. Stevenson said, "I will have
to go back and look at the Final Engineering that was approved." Additionally, Mr.
Stevenson remarked, "Do you want us to pull it up or just make it a condition of
Approval that they are all a seat wall." Commissioner Miller noted, "They all have to
have seat walls - all the openings. 1 understand they are only building one building to
start, but - when the first one is done, it should have a seat wall around each of the tree
openings." Mr. Stevenson commented, "Okay."
Discussion.
Commissioner Rick Brown inquired about the wall in the back "Dividing this property
from Tuskawilla Trails? Will it be up before construction?" With further comments,
Commissioner Brown then said, "But, there is going to be some kind of barrier during
construction?" Mr. Fields stated, "Actually there is now. And, they've agreed to leave
the existing fence up throughout construction and then - only fill when they're ready for
the brick wall..." Mr. Stevenson added, "... Will the fence come down?"
"I WILL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE WITH THE CONDITION
THAT THE SEAT WALLS ON - ALL OF THE TREES - ALL SIX (6) DEPICTED
ON THAT GRAPHIC THERE." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MILLER.
MAYOR BUSH NOTED, "SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER GILMORE."
DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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308. Community Development Department - City Arborist
Recommends The City Commission Consider The Request Of Conraj Letson Of 108
Atrium Court To Remove (1) One Specimen Tree Located On The Resident's
Private Lot.
Discussion.
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Mr. Mike Mingea, Arborist, Community Development Department remarked, "On
recommendations on specimen trees of this size, that they actually have replacement
replanting done prior to the time for the removal and the permitting, and I believe - Earl
[Starkey] has agreed that those will be fully - done and inspected."
"MOTION TO APPROVE." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER KREBS. MAYOR
BUSH SAID, "SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER GILMORE." DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN : AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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309. Office Of The City Clerk
Respectfully Requests That The City Commission Consider Nominating The Next
Deputy Mayor As Stipulated In The Charter Of The City Of Winter Springs,
Consistent With Actions In The Past.
Mayor Bush said, "I try to represent the City at as many events as possible. There are
times when I cannot go. The Deputy Mayor needs to go!"
"I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPOINT
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS AS THE DEPUTY MAYOR." MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER MILLER. MAYOR BUSH NOTED, "SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER GILMORE." DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN : AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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310. Community Development Department - Customer Service Division
In Accordance With Emergency Ordinance Number 2006-08, Requests The City
Commission Consider An Appeal Of A Staff Decision To Deny A Building Permit
On The Basis Of Neighborhood Compatibility And Harmony Involving A Proposed
Two-Story Addition To The House Located At 1110 Pheasant Circle.
Ms. Kim Trench, Manager, Customer Service Division, Community Development
Department addressed the City Commission.
Mr. Warren Gagne, 1110 Pheasant Circle, Winter Springs, Florida: addressed the City
Commission regarding the proposed two-story addition to his residence.
Much discussion.
Attorney Garganese said, "I needed to state for the Record - that Ordinance was amended
- [Ordinance] 2006-22, extended that Ordinance for another six (6) months."
Commissioner Gilmore noted, "I have pictures here." Commissioner Gilmore continued,
"I - went around the neighborhood this morning and took pictures of several two-story
homes. "
Further discussion.
Tape 3/Side A
Discussion.
"MY MOTION IS TO UPHOLD STAFF'S DECISION." MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER KREBS. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER GILMORE.
DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Mayor Bush said, "We need to be fair to people and tell them what the rules are so when
they come up here."
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Commissioner Krebs added, "To the Mayor's point, it's not fair for him to keep coming
back, back and forth, back and forth, and saying, 'Oh, will this work?' 'Will this
work?' We have to have some kind of criteria or guidelines or some kind of help for
these citizens. "
Next, Commissioner Miller said, "You are right, we need to address this. And I think
all of us agree, we need to address it - but how we do it is going to be a real problem
because Tuscawilla is one of those unique places and I think we are all struggling now
with how to make Tuscawilla better. "
Manager McLemore remarked, "The City needs to do the same thing as the
Homeowner's Association would do; and you need to appoint one (1) or two (2)
Architects to sit as an Architectural Review Committee, if we're going to continue
down this road; so that when they're doing their original plans, they can get that input
right on the front end. "
Commissioner Krebs noted, "Right, make it so." Commissioner McGinnis said, "My
question to you, alright, but it's not a mandatory HOA (Homeowner's Association.)
Can you still do that?" Manager McLemore said, "You can do it as a matter of your
Police Powers because there is no Homeowner's Association to do it."
Manager McLemore then commented, "All you have to do is appoint an Architect to
serve as, the Architectural Consultant to your Staff to review these plans when they
first come in; so that they can get the input rightfrom the beginning."
Commissioner McGinnis stated, "Based on our criteria..." Manager McLemore said,
"... Well, compatibility. It does mean something, it means just like we were saying -
what's out there? What architectural styles out there - what is it in a design that's
going to make you compatible with what's around you?"
Regarding the hiring of an Architect, Manager McLemore suggested, "Pay him by the
hour." Commissioner McGinnis said, "Well, I certainly would support that. I think
we need to move on that - because that could be a real step in the right direction."
Manager McLemore said, "Let me develop it and bring it back to you." Commissioner
Krebs stated, "Okay." Commissioner McGinnis said, "Good."
Mayor Bush said, "Maybe the direction would be for the Manager to come back at the
next Commission Meeting - with a Proposal to address this." Commissioner Krebs
said, "I am part of the Consensus." Commissioner McGinnis added, "Good." As no
objections were noted, Mayor Bush remarked, "We have Consensus on that - that the
Manager will bring back a procedure at - the first Meeting in January." Manager
McLemore said, "Certainly by the second meeting in January." Mayor Bush noted,
"Second Meeting in January." Mayor Bush said, "Okay, the second Meeting in
January. "
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Further comments.
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311. Information Services Department
Requests Whether They Wish To Replace The Chambers Overhead Document
Camera At A Cost Of $13,000.00.
Mr. Chris Edwards, Project and Application Support Specialist, Information Services
Department introduced this Agenda Item.
Discussion.
Commissioner Miller said, "If we put a high intensity light up there, that could be
activated when we have these things on the table, would that compensate for this problem
that you're addressing?" Ms. Dalka said, "I don't know. We could try it."
Commissioner Miller added, "I think it might be a better way to do it because I can't
think of too many documents, I can think of a couple, and I don't know why it happened,
but ninety percent (90%), ninety-nine (99), the majority, overwhelming majority of the
stuff that we look at is clear." Commissioner Miller added, "So, I would suggest maybe
putting a high intensity light up there so that would automatically activate."
"MOTION NOT TO APPROVE THIS UNTIL WE INVESTIGATE THE OTHER
OPTIONS." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BROWN. SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER MILLER. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Ms. Dalka said, "Additional monies for that? Do you want me to come back at the next
Meeting or do you just want to appropriate some money for that because there will be
costs?" Manager McLemore commented, "Just find out what it's going to cost and then
we'll deal with it."
Continuing, Manager McLemore stated, "Why don't you all just appropriate us a said
amount of money and if it's going to go over that, we'll come back to you." Mayor Bush
asked, "How much?" Manager McLemore said, "Make it twenty-five hundred [dollars]
($2,500.00)."
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"MOTION NOT TO EXCEED TWENTY-FIVE HUNDRED DOLLARS ($2,500.00)
FOR A HIGH INTENSITY LIGHT." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER KREBS.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BROWN. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
CONSENT AGENDA
CONSENT
400. Information Services Department
Requests Authorization To Move Forward With SAN (Storage Area Network)
Project In The Amount Of $19,881.00 With AsysTech Incorporated.
No discussion.
CONSENT
401. Utility Department
Requesting Authorization To Utilize The Consulting Services Of SMW GeoSciences,
Inc. For Hydrogeological And Environmental Technical Assistance Relating To The
Potable Water Consumptive Use Permit Application With The St. Johns River
Water Management District.
There was no discussion on this Agenda Item.
CONSENT
402. Public Works Department
Requesting Authorization To Piggyback Off Of Seminole County Contract Number
IFB-3110-05/GMG For Repairs To The Edgemon Avenue/S.R. (State Road) 419
Traffic Signal Mast Arms.
Brief discussion.
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CONSENT
403. Utility Department
Requesting Approval To Purchase A Vehicle By Piggybacking Off Of The Florida
Sheriff Association, Florida Association Of Counties And Florida Fire Chiers
Association Bid Number 06-14-0821.
This Agenda Item was not discussed.
CONSENT
404. Public Works Department
Requests The City Commission Validate The Staff Recommendation Finding
Harbor Winds To Be Built In Substantial Accordance With The Final Engineering
Plans And To Accept The Potable Water And Sanitary Sewer Infrastructure For
Ownership And Maintenance.
No discussion.
CONSENT
405.1. Public Works Department
Requests The City Commission Validate The Staff Recommendation Finding
Jesup's Reserve, Phase I To Be Built In Substantial Accordance With The Final
Engineering Plans, To Accept The Public Roads, Potable Water, And Sanitary
Sewer Infrastructure For Ownership And Maintenance, And To Authorize
Transportation Impact Fee Credits To Levitt & Sons In The Amount Of
$189,354.16 For The Design And Construction Of The Collector Road (McLeods
Way) Per The Developer's Agreement.
There was no discussion on this Agenda Item.
CONSENT
405.2. Community Development Department
Requests The City Commission Approve The Replat To The Jesup's Reserve Final
Subdivision Plat And Authorize Its Recordation.
This Agenda Item was not discussed.
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CONSENT
406. Parks And Recreation Department
Requests Approval From The City Commission To Proceed With Planning A
Valentine Event "Dancing Under The Stars" On Saturday, February 17, 2007 At
The Winter Springs Town Center.
Commissioner Gilmore said, "I think that we need to take a good look at where the stage
is located and all of the logistics of letting people see this performance." Commissioner
Gilmore continued, "Take a look and see if we can't do something that you can at least
see - because at the Fall Event you could not see anything unless you were right
absolutely in front. Maybe turn that around and face it the other way on the street or do
something; but take a look at it."
CONSENT
407. Police Department
Requests That The City Commission Approve The Receipt Of $10,000.00 Of Grant
Revenue (FY (Fiscal Year) 07)) And Expenditure Of $13,065.00 From The Law
Enforcement Trust Fund To Be Used Towards The Purchase Of A 2007 Chevrolet 1
(One) - Ton Crew Cab Truck For The Community Services Bureau.
No discussion.
CONSENT
408. Police Department
Requesting City Commission Approval For Expenditure Of Funds To Lease
Purchase 20 (Twenty) Police Vehicles Approved In The Current Budget.
Brief discussion followed with Chief of Police Daniel 1. Kerr.
CONSENT
409. Public Works Department - Stormwater Division
Requests City Commission Authorization To Enter Into An Interlocal Agreement
With Seminole County And The Cities Of Altamonte Springs, Casselberry, Lake
Mary, Longwood, Sanford, And Oviedo, Providing Intergovernmental Cooperation
On Stormwater Total Maximum Daily Load (TMDL) - Related Implementation
Activities.
With discussion, Commissioner Krebs said, "You know what 1 am really concerned
about? When we have our rainstorms and if you go - straight down, the end of
Tuskawilla Road - this big pond kind of thing is there.
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I don't know what you call it, but it looks like a basin and everything - drains into this or
floods into it and then this spills into Lake Jesup - and so what I am envisioning is all of
the run-off in the road, which is the oil, which is all that kind of junk, and then now - we
have a lot of homes in that area, as well as a lot more homes where there's going to be
fertilizers, etc, etc. dumping in." Commissioner Krebs added, "So, what I am wondering
is what we are doing as a City to prevent that and especially right there where I can see it
- it is so obvious."
With further discussion, Commissioner Krebs said, "So, I was just wondering, if there is
something that we as a City could do?"
Mr. Fields remarked, "There are some areas that don't have treatment facilities, and
through TMDL (Total Maximum Daily Load), one option is to retro-fit those facilities.
Another option is to create more regional sewer water options. Those are being studied
now."
CONSENT
410. Information Services Department
Requests Additional Appropriation In The Amount Of $10,000.00 For Any
Additional Expenses Related To WiFi Project.
Discussion.
CONSENT
411. Utility Department
Requesting Approval To Purchase From The United States General Services
Administration (GSA) Contract An Emergency Bypass Pump To Be Used For
Wastewater Lift Stations.
There was no discussion on this Agenda Item.
CONSENT
412. Utility/Public Works Department
Requests City Commission Approve An Interlocal Agreement With The Seminole
County School Board For Fueling City Vehicles And Equipment.
This Agenda Item was not discussed.
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CONSENT
413. Utility/Public Works Department
Requesting Approval For Payment To Progress Energy For The Installation Of
Underground Electrical Lines And Ground Mounted Transformers In The Amount
Of $21,655.11.
No discussion.
CONSENT
414. Office Of The City Clerk
Requesting Approval Of The November 27, 2006 Regular City Commission Meeting
Minutes.
There was no discussion on this Agenda Item.
"MOTION TO APPROVE." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER KREBS.
SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
INFORMATIONAL AGENDA
INFORMATIONAL
500. Community Development Department
Advising The City Commission Of The Status Of Various Current Planning
Projects.
This Agenda Item was not discussed.
INFORMATIONAL
501. Parks And Recreation Department
Wishes To Inform The City Commission About The Winter Springs Health And
Fitness Expo.
There was not discussion on this Agenda Item.
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INFORMATIONAL
502. Parks And Recreation Department
Requests That The City Commission Review Information Regarding The Increased
Utility Fee Charges To Parks And Recreation For Gym Use Of Three Middle
Schools By The Seminole County School Board.
Discussion.
Tape 3/Side B
With discussion, Manager McLemore said, "What do you want us to do?" Mayor Bush
said, "Not pay it." Deputy Mayor McGinnis added, "Not pay it."
Manager McLemore said, "If we do not pay it, then they can say, 'Well, you can't use the
gym.' So, my suggestion is that we need to try to develop some more information, have
us sit down with these people and I'm glad you're all upset Mayor, because I was going
to ask you - maybe you and I would meet with the Superintendent and have some
discussion about what this is all about and why is it happening and what are our
alternatives. "
With further comments, Mayor Bush said, "We will talk to them - we will talk to the
School Board members."
Mayor Bush asked, "Motion to approve Informational [Agenda]?"
"MOTION TO APPROVE." MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER GILMORE. DISCUSSION. MAYOR BUSH
REMARKED, "WITH THAT ONE ON '502', WE'RE GOING TO NIX THAT
ONE, RIGHT?"
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER GILMORE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
In other city business, Mayor Bush stated, "I met with three (3) members of the -
Homeowner's Association this last Friday."
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Mr. Larry Chumra, 634 Jeffery Court, Winter Springs, Florida: addressed the City
Commission representing the Highlands Homeowner's Association and stated, "Let me
state for the Record, as a representative of the Highlands Homeowner's Association, that
we hold no antagonistic view towards this Commission, the Mayor, or the City Manager.
Also, we have no political axe to grind with any of you. Misinformation and the lack of
due diligence on the part of individuals on our Board of Directors, including myself, have
led us to believe erroneously that the City Commission, the Mayor, and City Manager do
not have the best interests of the Highlands at heart.
Likewise, the Commission has been led to believe that our Board of Directors holds an
antagonistic view of you. These viewpoints are false. I have brought a letter from our
President which states our concerns. I respectfully request that the Commission review
this letter and help us to clear up any and all misunderstandings that exist between us.
From this day forward, our Association will endeavor to appoint a liaison to attend future
Commission Meetings so that we can enjoy an amicable relationship and put to rest any
ill feelings that may have jeopardized our relationship. And I thank you for this
opportunity."
Mayor Bush read a letter from the Highlands Homeowner's Association.
Discussion ensued on holding a possible Attorney-Client Session; to which Attorney
Garganese said he would need to get with some of the involved parties. Commissioner
Miller said, "I would suggest sometime early January."
Mayor Bush said, "I think at this point we kind of leave it in Anthony's (Garganese)
hands to make the contacts." Mayor Bush added, "Is everybody in agreement with
that?" Commissioner Krebs said, "Yes, but I think we need to not let it linger, either."
No objections were noted.
REPORTS
REPORTS
600. Office Of The City Attorney - Anthony A. Garganese, Esquire
Attorney Garganese said, "Regarding the Highlands, I did forward a copy of the Hearing
Transcript to all of the Commissioners."
Secondly, Attorney Garganese remarked, "We filed an extensive response to Mr. Jones'
Appeal regarding the Stormwater Fee."
Thirdly, Attorney Garganese noted, "The Planning and Zoning Board, last Wednesday,
recommended approval of the Cell Tower Ordinance revisions. That will be coming to
you the first Meeting in January."
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Next, Attorney Garganese explained, "The mediation has been scheduled in the case Roy
v. City of Winter Springs, Florida, Power & Light, and Seville Chase Homeowner's
Association for that landlocked parcel. That's going to be coming up in late January."
Related to the Binford v. City of Winter Springs Case, Attorney Garganese continued,
"Court granted Summary Judgment in the City's favor - so we have won that particular
Case; and the Case is over unless Mr. Binford decides to Appeal or file another Case."
Further discussion.
REPORTS
601. Office Of The City Manager - Ronald W. McLemore
Manager McLemore said, "I have made contact with Victor Dover about doing an update
and training session on Town Center - his idea is, 1 believe is for January the I ih [2007].
On [January] the 18th [2007], in Winter Park - 1 believe it's at Rollins College, they're
doing again this year, the 'Town Center' 101' basic course; and his idea was while
they're here, if we can do this on the 17th [December 2007], would we like to invite the
other cities to come and listen to the presentation to you - probably about a four (4) hour
seminar. "
Regarding the time for this to be held, Mayor Bush asked the City Commission, "Ten
(10) o'clock [a.m.]?" No objections were noted. Manager McLemore said, "10:00-2:00?
That'll be fine. We'll eat lunch in." Mayor Bush said, "10:00-2:00."
Next, Manager McLemore mentioned the start time for the Regular Meeting of January 8,
2007.
REPORTS
602. Office Of The City Clerk - Andrea Lorenzo-Luaces, CMC
City Clerk Lorenzo-Luaces reminded the City Commission about the Photo Session
scheduled for tomorrow, Tuesday, December 12, 2006.
Next, City Clerk Lorenzo-Luaces reminded the City Commission of the "Shop with a
Cop" scheduled for this Saturday, December 16, 2006. With further brief discussion on
transportation, Commissioner McGinnis said, "I will go." Commissioner Krebs added, "I
will go. I will be there."
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REPORTS
603. Commission Seat Three - Donald A. Gilmore
Commissioner Gilmore brought up the issue of a burned out house, to which Mr.
Stevenson said, "Commissioner, I'll get you an update on it. I don't have one (1) tonight
for you." Mr. Stevenson added, "They were supposed to have a Building Permit by the
end of November. To my knowledge they don't have one, but I'll confirm that tomorrow
and check on it."
Next, Commissioner Gilmore commented on Deed Restrictions.
Lastly, Commissioner Gilmore spoke about previous comments made by Mr. Chase.
REPORTS
604. Commission Seat Four - Sally McGinnis
Commissioner McGinnis commented briefly on frivolous lawsuits. Brief discussion.
Next, Commissioner McGinnis said, "Happy New Year everybody."
REPORTS
605. Commission Seat Five - Joanne M. Krebs
Commissioner Krebs thanked Manager McLemore for his gift.
Continuing, Commissioner Krebs said, "I would like an item to be placed on the next
Agenda, if possible, regarding digital audio recordings of Meetings and putting them on
the Web, if we could look at that - digital audio recordings. And you put them on the
Web and people can listen to the meeting; they don't view them, but they get to listen to
them. I don't believe it's all that expensive, but I would like to explore it and maybe just
bring some information to the Commission."
With further comments by City Clerk Lorenzo-Luaces and Mr. Edwards, Commissioner
Krebs added, "lfwe could just - bring that up for discussion next Meeting."
Commissioner Krebs said, "I did want to mention that I think we need to be paying
attention to some of the handicap challenges that are out there - I think that person who
was here tonight and said she couldn't get into City Hall, is that something that we can do
or is that very expensive to do - they can't open the door. There is a button or something
that somehow automatically can open for them." Manager McLemore noted, "I agree."
Lastly, Commissioner Krebs mentioned a resident's home that burned down in Oak
Forest two (2) years ago.
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REPORTS
606. Office Of The Mayor - John F. Bush
Mayor Bush spoke of signage outside City Hall for handicapped access.
Next, Mayor Bush spoke of rental car surcharges and a Charter County Transportation
Surtax. Manager McLemore asked what it related to.
Continuing, Mayor Bush remarked about comments made on the Trail issue through the
wetlands.
Lastly, Mayor Bush mentioned he had just had lunch at the University of Central Florida
with a parking garage expert and suggested they meet with Manager McLemore to
further discuss this issue.
REPORTS
607. Commission Seat One - Robert S. Miller
No Report.
.:..:. AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING ADDITIONAL REPORT WAS
GIVEN NEXT, FOLLOWED BY THE REST OF REPORTS. .:..:.
REPORTS
REPORTS
606. Office Of The Mayor - John F. Bush
Mayor Bush said to City Clerk Lorenzo-Luaces, "On my light, it still says 'Blake'."
REPORTS
608. Commission Seat Two - Rick Brown
Commissioner Brown commented on tonight's extensive Agenda.
Secondly, Commissioner Brown thanked Manager McLemore for the Report on the
Therapy Pool.
Commissioner Brown then asked, "Where are we with the Trotwood noise abatement
discussions?" Manager McLemore stated, "It's coming back to you in January."
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Mayor Bush said, "Along that same lines, I would like to make sure that we notify the
Sybilwood people of when that is going to be on the Commission's Agenda, because I
know that some of them want to be here to address the Commission."
.:..:. AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING ADDITIONAL REPORT WAS
GIVEN NEXT, FOLLOWED BY THE REST OF REPORTS. .:..:.
REPORTS
REPORTS
601. Office Of The City Manager - Ronald W. McLemore
Manager McLemore said, "We had the bids come in on Blumberg Boulevard and they
are substantially higher than what we budgeted a couple of years ago for this project,
which again, was not a surprise. So what we're trying to now is going back and elevate
the bids and then be able to come back to you in January - with some alternatives on how
to deal with that. And it's just going to take a little time to work through the bids and see
what options are available to us."
.:..:. AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING ADDITIONAL REPORT WAS
GIVEN NEXT, FOLLOWED BY THE REST OF REPORTS. .:..:.
REPORTS
REPORTS
606. Office Of The Mayor - John F. Bush
Mayor Bush asked, "One (1) other thing, I just noticed this - Commissioners, did you see
the letter from the Chair of Planning and Zoning [Board/Local Planning Agency],
Rosanne Karr.
I will just go ahead and read it to you. It is addressed to Mayor and the Commissioners.
It was delivered on the 6th [December 2006]. 'In summary of our decision of the Don
King property. The Board voted 3-2 in favor of the item and the motion was carried,
with Tom Brown and Denise Ryser voting against the change to the property. Their
votes are explained as the change/addition of another structure to the Don King property
may not be 'aesthetically pleasing'. Chairperson, Roseanne Karr'."
Mayor Bush asked City Clerk Lorenzo-Luaces whether the Commission received copies,
to which said, City Clerk Lorenzo-Luaces noted, "They will have a copy tomorrow."
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ADJOURNMENT
Mayor Bush adjourned the Regular Meeting at 11 :22 p.m.
RESPECTFULLYSUBAfITTED:
DANIELLE HARKER, ASSIST ANT TO THE CITY CLERK AND
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A LORENZO-LUACES, CMC
CLERK
NOTE: These Minutes were approved at the January 8, 2007 Regular City Commission Meeting.