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CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA
MINUTES
CITY COMMISSION
REGULAR MEETING
SEPTEMBER 22, 2008
CALL TO ORDER
The Regular Meeting of Monday, September 22, 2008 of the City Commission was
called to Order by Mayor John F. Bush at 5:15 p.m. in the Commission Chambers of the
Municipal Building (City Hall, 1126 East State Road 434, Winter Springs, 32708).
Roll Call:
Mayor John F. Bush, present
Deputy Mayor Donald A. Gilmore, present
Commissioner Robert S. Miller, present
Commissioner Rick Brown, present
Commissioner Sally McGinnis, present
Commissioner Joanne M. Krebs, present
City Manager Ronald W. McLemore, present
City Attorney Anthony A. Garganese, present
A moment of silence was followed by the Pledge of Allegiance.
.:..:. AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING PUBLIC HEARINGS AGENDA
ITEM "500" WAS DISCUSSED NEXT, AND LATER IN THE MEETING, AS
SHOWN ON PAGES 10-11 OF THESE MINUTES. .:..:.
PUBLIC HEARINGS AGENDA (PART I)
PUBLIC HEARINGS
500. Office Of The City Manager
Requesting That The City Commission Hold A Public Hearing Relative To The
Approval Of Resolution Number 2008-47, Which Establishes The Final Operating
Millage Rate And The Final Voted Debt Service Millage Rate For Fiscal Year 2008-
2009 For The City Of Winter Springs.
Mayor Bush opened the "Puhlic Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
Mr. Edward Martinez, Jr., 205 Little Creek Lane, Winter Springs, Florida: suggested
ways the City Commission could cut costs.
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Mr. Bob Rucci, 973 Turkey Hollow Circle, Winter Springs, Florida: commented on the
Spreadsheets that Mayor Bush put together.
Mr. Michel Champagne, 202 Arrowhead Court, Winter Springs, Florida: representing
the Arrowhead community, Mr. Champagne spoke on the Millage, and what type of
services residents get.
Note: Due to technical difficulties, the next audiotape was used
Tape 2/Side A
Mr. Arsenio Calle, 110 Arrowhead Court, Winter Springs, Florida: remarked about
increased taxes; suggested that a Citizen Committee be formed; and recommended that
the City Commission go back to 2005 levels.
Discussion.
Ms, Dorothy Benson, 220 Arrowhead Court, Winter Springs, Florida: spoke of being on
a fixed income; supporting the Fire Department; and the tough market.
Ms. Jean Hovey, 549 Brookside Drive, Winter Springs, Florida: suggested the City
Commission do what citizens suggest.
Ms. Mary Alice Wilder, 710 Boysenberry Court, Winter Springs, Florida: spoke on
behalf of a volunteer Committee wanting to work on revenue-neutral Events and to help
with sponsorship opportunities.
Mr. Stuart Knoll, 201 Arrowhead Court, Winter Springs, Florida: remarked about
increased taxes, Millage Rates; outside sponsors for community events; and outsourcing
or similar ideas to save taxpayers money.
Mr. Tom Armstrong, 103 Ashford Drive, Winter Springs, Florida: commented on the
Fire Consolidation; exchange of costs; and asked the City Commission to make taxes
more equitable across the board.
Mr. Ron Ligthart, 1036 Winding Waters Circle, Winter Springs, Florida: mentioned a
spreadsheet he had prepared for the City Commission.
M~. Avery Knoll, 201 Arrowhead Court, Winter Springs, Florida: commented on the
base; revenue; and suggested the City work with other similar communities in dealing
with issues in Tallahassee,
Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
Much discussion.
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Tape 2/Side B
Commissioner Robert S. Miller commented for the Record about his preference for the
suggested two (2) new Police Officers.
"MOTION THAT WE ACCEPT THE CITY MANAGER'S
RECOMMENDATION NUMBER '1' WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE
IMPLEMENTATION OF THE CODY STUDY FOR .0149 MILLS; THE
IMPLEMENTATION OF THE COMPRESSION ADJUSTMENT FOR .0759
MILLS; AND WITHOUT THE 4TH OF JULY CELEBRATION FOR A MILLAGE
REDUCTION OF - .0297 WHICH LEAVES US WITH A TOTAL OPERATING
MILLAGE OF 2.4937 OR A .5401 REDUCTION FROM OUR TENT A TIVE
MILLAGE STATED IN THE TRIM NOTICE." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER
BROWN.
MOTION DIED FOR LACK OF A SECOND.
Discussion.
Mayor Bush called a Recess at 6:25 p.m.
The Regular Meeting was called back to Order at 6:36 p.m.
Further discussion.
City Manager Ronald W. McLemore addressed the City Commission.
Discussion ensued with Mr. Kevin Smith, Director, General Services Department
addressed the City Commission on several scenarios related to the Millage.
"I NEED TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE A THREE PERCENT
(3%) ACROSS THE BOARD, A HUNDRED FIFTY-THREE THOUSAND,
THREE HUNDRED TWENTY-FIVE [DOLLARS] ($153,325.00) FOR
COMPRESSION ADJUSTMENT, FIFTEEN THOUSAND [DOLLARS]
($15,000.00) FOR LOT CLEARING AND A HUNDRED SEVENTEEN
THOUSAND, FIVE HUNDRED SIXTY-FOUR [DOLLARS] ($117,564.00) FOR
TWO (2) POLICE OFFICERS." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MILLER.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. DISCUSSION.
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VOTE:
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: NAY
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: NAY
COMMISSIONER KREBS: NAY
MOTION DID NOT CARRY.
Mayor Bush called a Recess at 6:59 p.m.
The Regular Meeting was called back to Order at 7.' J 5 p. m.
Tape 3/Side A
Much discussion continued.
With a discussion on various items, Mayor Bush asked, "What about across the board -
three percent (3%)?" Commissioner Rick Brown stated, "Three percent (3%)."
Commissioner Sally McGinnis noted, "Three [percent] (3%)." Mayor Bush pointed out,
"We have three (3) people who say three [percent] (3%)."
Discussion.
Mayor Bush asked about "Lot clearing?" Commissioner Brown said, "Yes."
Commissioner McGinnis remarked, "Absolutely." No objections were heard. Mayor
Bush clarified, "Lot clearing is in there."
Mayor Bush stated, "The Fire Department position had been taken care of. It should not
be up there. That - person has taken another job in the City that is already funded, so it is
not a new position."
With further comments, Mr. Smith explained that three percent (3%) Merit - three
[percent] (3%) across the board and the lot clearing - 2.4714.
"I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THAT MOTION THAT WE SET THE MILLAGE
AT 2.4714." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BROWN. SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. DISCUSSION.
MAYOR BUSH ADDED, "THE MERIT WAS AT ZERO - THREE PERCENT (0-
3%) - THREE PERCENT (3%) ACROSS THE BOARD INCREASE FOR ALL
EMPLOYEES, AND THE LOT CLEARING - WHICH COMES DOWN TO THE
2.4714."
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VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: NAY
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: NAY
MOTION CARRIED.
Mayor Bush called a Recess.
The Regular Meeting was called hack to Order by Mayor Bush.
INFORMATIONAL AGENDA
INFORMATIONAL
100. Community Development Department
Advising The City Commission Of The Status Of Various Current Planning
Projects.
This Agenda Item was not discussed.
MOTION TO APPROVE INFORMATIONAL AGENDA.
SECONDED. DISCUSSION.
MOTION.
VOTE:
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
CONSENT AGENDA
CONSENT
200. Public Works Department
Requests The City Commission Validate The Staff Recommendation Finding The
Town Center Building 17 Site To Be Built In Substantial Accordance With The
Final Engineering Plans And To Accept The Potable Water And Sanitary Sewer
Infrastructure For Ownership And Maintenance.
No discussion.
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CONSENT
201. Public Works Department - Stormwater Division
Requesting Authorization To Enter Into A Contract Agreement With Lake Masters
Aquatic Weed Control, Inc. For Aquatic Weed Control And Maintenance Services
Of Certain Ponds.
This Agenda Item was not discussed.
CONSENT
202. Utility/Public Works Department
Requesting Approval To Award Bid #ITB-013/08/KL And Enter Into A Contract
To Construct The Two Remaining Utility/Public Works Storage Buildings.
There was no discussion on this Agenda Item.
CONSENT
203. Parks And Recreation Department
Requesting Authorization To Award The Contract For Landscape Maintenance
And Chemical Services For Winter Springs Neighborhood Parks.
No discussion.
CONSENT
204. Office Of The City Clerk
Approval Of The September 2, 2008 City Commission Workshop Minutes.
This Agenda Item was not discussed.
CONSENT
205. Office Of The City Clerk
Approval of the September 8, 2008 City Commission Regular Meeting Minutes.
There was no discussion on this Agenda Item.
CONSENT
206. Office Of The City Clerk
Approval Of The September 15,2008 City Commission Workshop Minutes.
No discussion.
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CONSENT
207. Information Services Department
Requests The Commission Authorize The City Manager To Enter Into A Contract
With Pride Enterprises For The Outsourcing Of Imaging Services And The
Expenditure Of $50,000.00 Which Is Already Budgeted For The Records
Management Project.
Brief discussion.
MOTION TO APPROVE CONSENT AGENDA. MOTION. SECONDED.
DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
AWARDS AND PRESENT A TIONS
AWARDS AND PRESENTATIONS
300. Office Of The Mayor
Presentation Of A Proclamation Recognizing "Mental Illness Awareness Week"
Mayor Bush presented a Proclamation in honor of "Mental Illness Awareness Week".
Discussion followed on a related Event in Altamonte Springs on October 11,2008.
AWARDS AND PRESENTATIONS
301. Oviedo-Winter Springs Regional Chamber Of Commerce
ADD-ON
Oviedo-Winter Springs Regional Chamber Of Commerce Wishes To Present The
City Of Winter Springs With An Award.
Mr. Charles Lacey and Ms. Brenda Hayes Brown presented a framed poster of the 2008
Festival of the Arts to the City. Mayor Bush noted, "Andrea (Lorenzo-Luaces, City
Clerk) will find an appropriate place for this."
Brief discussion.
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REPORTS
REPORTS
400. Office Of The City Attorney - Anthony A. Garganese, Esquire
No Report.
REPORTS
401. Office Of The City Manager - Ronald W. McLemore
Manager McLemore stated, "We've got about eighty percent (80%) of the Fall Harvest
committed. I am pretty confident we can commit to the rest - we can get the rest of it.
My question to you is with that commitment, are you comfortable with going ahead or do
we still need to wait?" With further comments, Manager McLemore noted, "We're about
two thousand dollars ($2,000.00) off."
"I MOVE WE MOVE FORWARD - COMMIT TO PROCEED WITH THE
HOMETOWN HARVEST." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BROWN. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
REPORTS
402. Office Of The City Clerk - Andrea Lorenzo-Luaces, CMC
No Report.
REPORTS
403. Commission Seat Two - Rick Brown
Commissioner Brown commented on the 2nd Annual "Jingle Bell SK" scheduled for
Saturday, December 13, 2008 and that we are open for registering runners and would
accept Sponsors.
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REPORTS
404. Commission Scat Three/Deputy Mayor - Donald A. Gilmore
Deputy Mayor Donald A Gilmore commented about the offer during Public Input to
form a Committee to find Sponsors for Special Events to represent the City Commission,
Manager McLemore said, "You need to bring this back as an Agenda Item with a
Resolution creating an entity and we need to figure out - because we are about to go out
the door with the RFP (Request for Proposal) on the other person - how this all works
together. But if you want to create this Committee, then you are going to need to do it by
Resolution of the City." Mayor Bush suggested, "At the next regularly scheduled
Meeting." Manager McLemore stated, "Okay."
REPORTS
405. Commission Seat Four - Sally McGinnis
Commissioner McGinnis commented further on a proposed Committee to find Sponsors
for Special Events and Commissioner McGinnis suggested these people need something
in writing from the City.
Manager McLemore noted, "There's nothing to stop them from going out and saying
they're soliciting money and they should have something in their hands..."
Commissioner McGinnis remarked, "... That is the issue." Manager McLemore then
asked, "Are they going to hold money; are they going to send it to the City?"
Commissioner McGinnis then asked Manager McLemore, "Would you work with Chris
(Carson, Parks and Recreation Department)?" Manager McLemore replied, "I'd be more
than happy to."
Secondly, Commissioner McGinnis commented about the helicopter pad at the South
Seminole Hospital on State Road 434.
REPORTS
406. Commission Seat Five - Joanne M. Krebs
No Report.
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REPORTS
407. Office Of The Mayor - John F. Bush
Mayor Bush stated, "Susie (Coffman, Senior Center Manager, Parks and Recreation
Department) had sent me a Memo about - a walk through at the Senior Center over the
Therapy Pool and the renovations there." Mayor Bush said to City Clerk Lorenzo-
Luaces, "Would you make sure the Commissioners all know the time of that walk-
through. "
REPORTS
408. Commission Seat One - Robert S. Miller
No Report.
.:..:. AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING PUBLIC HEARINGS AGENDA
ITEMS "500" AND "501" WERE DISCUSSED NEXT. PUBLIC HEARINGS
AGENDA ITEM "500" WAS ALSO DISCUSSED PREVIOUSLY, AS NOTED ON
PAGES 1-5 OF THESE MINUTES. .:..:.
PUBLIC HEARINGS AGENDA (PART I)
PUBLIC HEARINGS
500. Office Of The City Manager
Requesting That The City Commission Hold A Public Hearing Relative To The
Approval Of Resolution Number 2008-47, Which Establishes The Final Operating
Millage Rate And The Final Voted Debt Service Millage Rate For Fiscal Year 2008-
2009 For The City Of Winter Springs.
City Attorney Anthony A. Garganese stated for the Record, "I need to publicly announce
the Final Operating Millage rate of2.4714 Mills, is 32.31 percent less than the computed
Rolled-Back Rate of3.6512."
"I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT THE CITY OF WINTER
SPRINGS ADOPT RESOLUTION 2008-47 ESTABLISHING THE FINAL
OPERATING MILLAGE RATE AT 2.4714 MILLS, ESTABLISHING THE
VOTED DEBT SERVICE AT .1100 MILLS AND PUBLICLY ANNOUNCE THAT
THE FINAL OPERATING MILLAGE IS 32.31 PERCENT LESS THAN THE
COMPUTED ROLLED-BACK RATE OF 3.6512 MILLS." MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER BROWN. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS.
DISCUSSION.
MA YOR BUSH NOTED, "I WILL GIVE A COPY OF THIS TO THE CLERK."
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VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: NAY
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: NAY
MOTION CARRIED.
501. Office Of The City Manager
Requesting That The City Commission Hold A Public Hearing Relative To The
Approval Of Resolution Number 2008-48, Establishing The Final Budget For Fiscal
Year 2008-2009.
Ms. Michelle Greco, Director, Finance Department addressed the City Commission on
this Agenda Item.
Continuing, Ms. Greco explained, "Adoption of the Millage rate of 2.4714 mills and a
Voted Debt Service Millage Rate of .1100 Mills - gives us total expenditures in this Final
Budget of General Fund seventeen million, four hundred and sixty thousand, two hundred
and ninety-two dollars ($17,460,292.00), other Governmental Funds of twenty million,
sixteen thousand seven hundred and sixty-nine dollars ($20,016,769.00) and Enterprise
Funds of twelve million, eight hundred thirty-three thousand, five hundred forty-four
dollars ($12,833,544.00), for a total Budget of fifty million, three hundred and ten
thousand, six hundred and five dollars ($50,310,605.00)."
Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
No one spoke.
Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
"MOTION TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NUMBER 2008-48 IN THE AMOUNT
STATED." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER BROWN. DISCUSSION.
MAYOR BUSH NOTED, "MICHELLE (GRECO), WOULD YOU MAKE SURE
THOSE NUMBERS THAT YOU READ OFF WERE FILLED IN AND GIVE IT
TO THE CLERK, SO, THAT SHE RECORDS IT ACCURATELY." MS. GRECO
STATED, "YES, SIR."
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VOTE:
COMMISSIONER KREBS: NAY
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: NAY
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Deputy Mayor Gilmore asked that copies of the Resolution be placed in their mail boxes
tomorrow,
PUBLIC INPUT
No one addressed the City Commission at this time,
PUBLIC HEARINGS AGENDA (PART II)
PUBLIC HEARINGS
502. Office Of The City Attorney
Second Reading And Adoption Of Ordinance 2008-15, Authorizing The Inclusion
Of The City In Seminole County's Fire And Emergency Services Municipal Taxing
Unit.
Attorney Garganese read the Ordinance by "Title" only,
Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
No one spoke.
Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
"MOTION TO APPROVE
COMMISSIONER BROWN.
DISCUSSION.
(ORDINANCE 2008-15)." MOTION BY
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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PUBLIC HEARINGS
503. Community Development Department - Planning Division
Requests The City Commission Conduct A Public Hearing For The 2nd Reading
And Adoption Of Ordinance 2008-17, Annexing A Parcel Located At 1072 West SR
[State Road] 434 (East Of SR [State Road] 417), Equaling Approximately 7.06 Acres
And Owned By East Coast Believers Church Inc.
Attorney Garganese read the Ordinance by "Title" only.
Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
Mr. Montje S. Plank, PE., Senior Vice President, Central Florida Land
Corporation, 500 North Maitland Avenue, Suite 110, Maitland, Florida:
addressed the City Commission.
Design
briefly
Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
"MOTION TO APPROVE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS.
DISCUSSION.
(ORDINANCE 2008-17)." MOTION BY
SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE.
VOTE:
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
504. Community Development Department - Planning Division
Requests That The City Commission Hold A Public Hearing For First Reading Of
Ordinance 2008-12, Which Rezones Two (2) Parcels Containing 28.9 Gross Acres,
More Or Less, Located At 1900 DeLeon Street (The Southwest Corner Of DeLeon
Street And Howard Avenue) From (Seminole County) "A-3 Agricultural" To (City
Of Winter Springs) "R-Cl Single Family Dwelling District" (Min. [Minimum] Lot
Size-l Acre).
Mayor Bush stated, "Can we have a Motion to read by 'Title' only?"
"SO MOVED." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BROWN. SECONDED BY
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE. DISCUSSION.
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VOTE:
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Attorney Garganese read the Ordinance by "Title" only.
Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
No one spoke on this Agenda Item.
Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
Ms. Eloise Sahlstrom, AS LA, AICP, Senior Planner, Community Development
Department briefly addressed the City Commission.
Discussion
Tape 3/Side B
Further brief discussion.
"MOTION TO APPROVE
COMMISSIONER BROWN.
DISCUSSION.
(ORDINANCE 2008-12)." MOTION BY
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN : AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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PUBLIC HEARINGS
505. Community Development Department
Request The Commission Consider The Aesthetic Review For A 4,232 S.F. (Square
Foot) Single Story Office/Retail Building, A 320 S.F. (Square Foot) Storage
Building, And Other Site Improvements On A Pie-Shaped 0.73 Acre Property At
The Northeast Corner Of SR (State Road) 434 And Central Winds Drive (Also
Abuts Central Winds Parkway a.k.a. [Also Known As] Old SR [State Road] 434),
Within The Town Center.
Mr. Randy Stevenson, ASLA, AICP, Director, Community Development Department
introduced this Agenda Item.
Mr. Bill Starmer, Starmer Ranaldi Planning and Architecture, Inc., 820 West Broadway
Street, Suite 3000, Oviedo, Florida: spoke briefly on this Agenda Item,
Manager McLemore stated, "What we're asking you to do is to just give us the authority
to work these things out - we don't have to come back to you. Of course, the Applicant
can come back if he is not satisfied." Mayor Bush said, "Just work it out."
Commissioner McGinnis noted, "That is good."
Commissioner Miller noted that "This property here is all school property and this is the
access road, Tuskawilla Road - right there, it says 'Not accessible'," which means you
can't get on to [State Road] 434 there. Is there some possibility that will be opened up at
some point in the future?"
Manager McLemore answered, "Yes. Not a road, but a sidewalk, or something of that
nature. That is one of the things we have to negotiate."
Commissioner Miller continued, "You could really put a real nice feature in there - you
obviously would have to get some land from the School Board, and I am not sure they
would be willing to give it up, but even if they weren't, maybe some kind of an
Agreement that we could use it for, like a pocket park that we were talking about."
Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
No one spoke.
Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
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"I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ALLOW STAFF AND THE
APPLICANT TO CONTINUE WORKING ON THESE FINAL ITEMS AND
THAT THE APPLICANT FEEL EMPOWERED TO COME BACK BEFORE
THIS COMMISSION, IF THEY FEEL THEY ARE BOGGED DOWN
INAPPROPRIATELY." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BROWN. SECONDED
BY DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Mr. Stevenson asked, "If I could clarify that, that Motion was for Approval and to
empower Staff to work out our..." Mayor Bush noted, "... Yes. Work it out."
Commissioner Miller departed the Regular Meeting at 8:40 p.m.
REGULAR AGENDA
REGULAR
600. Community Development Department
Requests The Commission Consider The Final Engineering/Site Plan For A 4,232
S.F. (Square Foot) Single Story Office/Retail Building, A 320 S.F. (Square Foot)
Storage Building, And Other Site Improvements On A Pie-Shaped 0.73 Acre
Property At The Northeast Corner Of SR (State Road) 434 And Central Winds
Drive (Also Abuts Central Winds Parkway a.k.a. [Also Known As] Old SR [State
Road] 434), Within The Town Center.
Mr. Stevenson addressed the City Commission on this Agenda Item.
Mr. Bill Starmer, Starmer Ranaldi Planning and Architecture, Inc., 820 West Broadway
Street, Suite 3000, Oviedo, Florida: spoke on the sidewalks situation.
Mr. Brian Fields, P.E., City Engineer, Public Works Department commented on
sidewalks.
Discussion.
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Mayor Bush suggested, "We need to ask the school to finish building that sidewalk." Mr.
Stevenson stated, "Granted, this is an incremental piece to a network that currently
doesn't exist, but it is an incremental piece, and it is a requirement of your
Comprehensive Plan."
Deputy Mayor Gilmore proposed, "Can we not write it into the Development Order or
form that says that in the future, if there is a need for it, then the Developer will put the
sidewalk in."
Mr. Stevenson remarked, "Once Staff works with the Applicant and we iron all this out,
one of the items that does have to come back to you is the DA (Development Agreement)
for this project." Discussion.
Further, Mr. Stevenson noted, "There is no intended use once you get beyond this
entrance here - it does come in this way; it does attach to an existing sidewalk; it does
become a part of a network; although a lot of that network as Brian (Fields) said, is not in
place at this time, and a lot of that network would need to be on school property."
Commissioner McGinnis remarked, "I do agree with Commissioner Gilmore. My
question is, how do you establish the need down the line?"
Manager McLemore said, In the overall plan for your Town Center, there's a sidewalk
coming all the way through there, around the pond area." Manager McLemore added,
"We're asking them to give us an Easement over that property for a pocket park. Is that
not worth ten thousand dollars ($10,000.00) over a long period of time to put in our street
and sidewalk plan?" Mr. Stevenson stated, "Yes." Manager McLemore then noted,
"Isn't that a fair deal?" Commissioner Krebs commented, "Yes." Commissioner
McGinnis remarked, "Yes."
Mayor Bush stated, "So you are suggesting the City pay for the sidewalk?" Manager
McLemore remarked, "I'm suggesting that at some point in time as we build out that
section, when we put the sidewalk in, in return for their agreement to give us - the
Easement for recreation purposes as a pocket park." Commissioner McGinnis agreed and
stated, "Okay."
"I MAKE THE MOTION THAT WE ASK FOR A FUTURE EASEMENT ON
THE RETENTION POND FOR A RECREATION AREA AND IN LIGHT OF
THAT, WE WOULD - THE CITY WOULD RUN THE SIDEWALKS AT SOME
FUTURE TIME AS REQUIRED." MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. DISCUSSION.
COMMISSIONER BROWN NOTED, "IS THERE ANY REASON WHY THAT
WOULDN'T BE ACCEPTABLE TO THE APPLICANT? NO? OKAY."
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VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Discussion.
Mr. Stevenson said, "The bicycle rack currently exists right here, in the main entrance.
They have agreed to move that at some point. That would be one of the points of
negotiation between Staff and the Applicant; probably to an area, maybe over in here by
this walkway, or something a little more appropriate than right in this main entrance to
this entrance plaza from the building there." Deputy Mayor Gilmore, "Why do they need
a bicycle rack?"
Continuing, Mr. Stevenson explained, "We don't know what else will be in this particular
building." Furthermore, Mr. Stevenson noted, "The pedestrian nature of the Town Center
has certain elements into it, one of those is bike racks. The Applicant had put in a single
bike rack. We had talked with them and we felt like the location was inappropriate."
Manager McLemore stated, "Overall, it is part of the Town Center design to encourage
bike traffic and bike use."
"I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT STAFF CONTINUE TO WORK
WITH THE APPLICANT ON THE FINAL ITEMS THAT ARE OUTSTANDING
ON THIS." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BROWN. SECONDED BY
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE. DISCUSSION.
MR. STEVENSON STATED, "I THINK WE'RE CLOSE ENOUGH BASED
UPON TONIGHT, BUT IF YOU WOULD ALLOW US TO WORK WITH THEM
ON THESE FINAL ITEMS AND APPROVE WHAT WE HAVE. THAT'S WHAT
WE WOULD PREFER, IS NOT TO HAVE TO BRING IT BACK TO YOU."
COMMISSIONER BROWN RESTATED HIS MOTION, "THAT STAFF
CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE APPLICANT AND BRING THIS ITEM TO
A CLOSE, AS MUTUALLY AGREEABLE TO BOTH PARTIES."
MR. STEVENSON ADDED, "YOU WILL BE SEEING, DEPENDENT UPON
THOSE NEGOTIATIONS, YOU WILL BE SEEING A DEVELOPMENT
AGREEMENT COME BACK TO YOU ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM."
SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE. DISCUSSION.
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VOTE:
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
REGULAR
601. Public Works Department
Requests The City Commission Review And Approve The Combined Preliminary
And Final Engineering/Site Plan For The Proposed St. Johns River Water
Management District Solary Canal Stormwater Treatment Area On Approximately
28.9 Acres, Located On The East Side Of DeLeon Street In The City Of Winter
Springs.
Mr. Fields commented on this Agenda Item.
Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
Mr. Ed Riday, 1626 Wrentham Court, Winter Springs, Florida: noted that he was
representing several homeowners, and noted, "Brian (Fields) - we have been dealing with
him a lot. He has been very friendly and helping us, meeting with us. Coming out to our
houses and explaining what is going to happen. And, we all, the Homeowners like what
is going to happen. The only concern we have is protection from alligators."
Mr. Riday added, "We just want to make sure there's a requirement that the black chain
link fence be built; that it is down to the ground so that alligators can't get under it, and
that it is painted black, and that it is not on the property line. We wish it back at least five
- ten feet (5 -10') from the property line."
As to the best fence height, Mr. Riday commented, "We all agree with six [feet] (6') is
fine." With additional comments, Mr. Riday commented, "We also want to make sure
it's not right on the property line."
"I AM GOING TO MAKE A MOTION THAT STAFF WORK WITH THE
HOMEOWNERS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE FINAL PLAN INCLUDES
THEIR CONCERNS AND ADDRESSES THEM APPROPRIATELY." MOTION
BY COMMISSIONER BROWN. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS.
DISCUSSION.
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DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE ADDED, "WHEN YOU PUT A FENCE INSIDE
THE PROPERTY LINE, YOU CREATE A NO-MAN'S LAND OF
MAINTENANCE. AND, I THINK ANYTHING YOU DO IN THERE, YOU ARE
GOING TO NEED TO PUT THAT IN SOME DEVELOPMENT ORDER IN
THAT AS TO RESPONSIBILITY; BUT THEN AGAIN, YOU HAVE TO BE
CAUTIOUS, BECAUSE THEY TAKE CARE OF IT FOR TWENTY (20) YEARS,
THEN THEY CAN CLAIM IT AS THEIR OWN PROPERTY."
Tape 4/Side A
Mr. Riday added, "No one is going to maintain it." Furthermore, Mr. Riday explained,
"It's all natural. I'm not going to do anything to it." Additionally, Mr. Riday
commented, "No, we're not going to make it part of our yards."
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
REGULAR
602. Office Of The City Manager
ADD-ON
Requesting The City Commission To Review The Facts Surrounding An Insurance
Issue Related To Fire Consolidation.
Mr. Smith spoke on this Agenda Item.
Discussion.
"I WANT TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE ST AFF'S
RECOMMENDATION ON THIS." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BROWN.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER KREBS.
COMMISSIONER BROWN ADDED, "STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS
THERE IS NO BASIS FOR THE CITY TO GET INVOLVED IN THIS MATTER,
SINCE THE COUNTY HAS ALREADY AGREED TO ABSORB THE
EMPLOYER COST FOR THE OCTOBER DEPENDENT COVERAGE.
THEREFORE, IT IS RECOMMENDED THAT THE REQUEST FOR THE CITY
TO PAY SUCH A REDUNDANT EXPENSE BE DENIED."
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DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
.:..:. AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING REGULAR AGENDA ITEM
WAS DISCUSSED NEXT, FOLLOWED BY THE REST OF THE AGENDA. .:..:.
REGULAR AGENDA
REGULAR
606. Office Of The City Manager
ADD-ON
Requesting The City Commission To Review A Request Of The Fire Department To
Give Firemen Consolidating One Day Of Vacation Or Sick Leave Credit On Their
Last Paycheck.
This Agenda Item was presented by ML Smith.
"I AM GOING TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE REQUEST
ON THIS ONE." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BROWN. SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER KREBS. DISCUSSION.
MAYOR BUSH NOTED, "THE MOTION IS TO APPROVE - GIVE THE
FIREMEN THE ABILITY TO CONSOLIDATE ONE DAY OF VACATION OR
SICK LEAVE CREDIT ON THEIR LAST PAYCHECK."
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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REGULAR
603. Information Services Department
Requests The Commission Discuss Chambers Audio System Issues And Provide
Direction As To How They Wish To Proceed.
Ms, Joanne Dalka, Director, Information Services Department spoke on this Agenda
Item.
Discussion.
Mayor Bush said, "I think Commissioners, I think that we have to make an effort to lean
forward, speak into the mic[rophone], turn your mic[rophone] on - I try to watch that as
much as I can and then when you are not recognized to speak, don't talk - or turn your
mic[rophone] off, so it doesn't pick you up."
"I WAS GOING TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE DO NOT CONSIDER THIS
AT THIS TIME." MOTION MADE BY COMMISIONER BROWN. SECONDED
BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: NAY
MOTION CARRIED.
REGULAR
604. Information Services Department
Requests The Commission Consider e-Alerts As A Method Of Email
Communication With Residents; Determine Which Lists Are To Be Added To The
System; And Determine How email Addresses Should Be Collected To Be Added To
The System.
Ms. Dalka addressed the City Commission on this Agenda Item.
Commissioner Krebs suggested that Ms. Dalka add to the Website, "If we agree to this,
and somebody is going to sign up, that by Law their email address could be shared." Ms,
Dalka noted, "We have that at the bottom, however, we felt that we were going to tweak
that a little bit - especially on the pages for e-Alerts and for this - whatever new list that
we have, We have that on every page of our Website."
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Furthermore, Commissioner Krebs added, "I am just afraid they are not going to see that
part." Ms. Dalka added, "We'll put it up in the body - up where they can see it."
Commissioner McGinnis suggested, "That was exactly my concern; and 1 think it should
be prominently displayed where you are more likely to see it, than not see it. They have
to understand that - their email will be a matter of public record. We have to make every
effort that that is prominent."
Further discussion.
"I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE WITH THE
REQUEST THAT JOANNE (DALKA) AND HER STAFF COME BACK WITH
SOME REFINED RECOMMENDATIONS AS TO LISTS AND I AM SURE THAT
YOU CAN WORK WITH THE CITY MANAGER, AND THAT YOU PROBABLY
KNOW THE LIST THAT WE WOULD BE MOST LIKELY TO BE
REQUESTING; AND THAT WE COME BACK WITH THE OPERATION OF
THE SYSTEM TO ASSURE THE REST OF THE COMMISSION, HOW
CITIZENS WILL BE ABLE TO BE PROTECTED AND THEIR PRIVACY
PROTECTED IF THEY CHOOSE NOT TO PARTICIPATE." MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER BROWN. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER KREBS.
DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
REGULAR
605. Office Of The City Clerk
Requests The City Commission Consider Requested Information Regarding The
Current Performance Review For The City Clerk Due September 27,2008.
City Clerk Lorenzo-Luaces briefly introduced this Agenda Item.
Mayor Bush stated, "I think Andrea (Lorenzo-Luaces) is to be congratulated for her
professionalism and her efforts to become even more professional." Commissioner
Krebs stated, "Yes." Commissioner McGinnis remarked, "Yes." Mayor Bush added, "I
think it speaks well for the Commission who have hired such a progressive Clerk."
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"MOTION TO GIVE ANDREA (CITY CLERK LORENZO-LUACES) FOUR
PERCENT (4%) INCREASE." MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER KREBS.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BROWN. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
City Clerk Lorenzo-Luaces thanked the City Commission,
In other City business, further brief discussion followed on the Budget process,
ADJOURNMENT
Mayor Bush adjourned the Regular Meeting at 9:32 p,m,
RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED:
LaDONNA SLA YTER, ASSIST ANT TO THE CITY CLERK AND
ANDREA LORENZO-LUACES, MMC
CITY CLERK
APPROVED:
MA YOR JOHN F, BUSH
NOTE: These Minutes were approved at the
,2008 Regular City Commission Meeting,
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CALL TO ORDER
The Regular Meeting of Monday, September 22, 2008 of the City Commission was
called to Order by Mayor John F. Bush at 5:15 p.m. in the Commission Chambers of the
Municipal Building (City Hall, 1126 East State Road 434, Winter Springs, 32708).
Roll Call:
Mayor John F. Bush, present
Deputy Mayor Donald A. Gilmore, present
Commissioner Robert S. Miller, present
Commissioner Rick Brown, present
Commissioner Sally McGinnis, present
Commissioner Joanne M. Krebs, present
City Manager Ronald W. McLemore, present
City Attorney Anthony A. Garganese, present
A moment of silence was followed by the Pledge of Allegiance.
• • AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING PUBLIC HEARINGS AGENDA
ITEM "500" WAS DISCUSSED NEXT, AND LATER IN THE MEETING, AS
SHOWN ON PAGES 10-11 OF THESE MINUTES. • •
PUBLIC HEARINGS AGENDA (PART I)
PUBLIC HEARINGS
500. Office Of The City Manager
Requesting That The City Commission Hold A Public Hearing Relative To The
Approval Of Resolution Number 2008-47, Which Establishes The Final Operating
Millage Rate And The Final Voted Debt Service Millage Rate For Fiscal Year 2008-
2009 For The City Of Winter Springs.
Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
Mr. Edward Martinez, Jr., 205 Little CYeek Lane, Winter Springs, Florida: suggested
ways the City Commission could cut costs.
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Mr. Bob Rucci, 973 Turkey Hollow Circle, Winter Springs, Florida: commented on the
Spreadsheets that Mayor Bush put together.
Mr. Michel Champagne, 202 Arrowhead Court, Winter Springs, Florida: representing
the Arrowhead community, Mr. Champagne spoke on the Millage, and what type of
services residents get.
Note: Due to technical difficulties, the next audiotape was used.
Tape 2/Side A
Mr. Arsenio Calle, 110 Arrowhead Court, Winter Springs, Florida: remarked about
increased taxes; suggested that a Citizen Committee be formed; and recommended that
the City Commission go back to 2005 levels.
Discussion.
Ms. Dorothy Benson, 220 Arrowhead Court, Winter Springs, Florida: spoke of being on
a fixed income; supporting the Fire Department; and the tough market.
Ms. Jean Hovey, 549 Brookside Drive, Winter Springs, Florida: suggested the City
Commission do what citizens suggest.
Ms. Mary Alice Wilder, 710 Boysenberry Court, Winter Springs, Florida: spoke on
behalf of a volunteer Committee wanting to work on revenue-neutral Events and to help
with sponsorship opportunities.
Mr. Stuart Knoll, 201 Arrowhead Court, Winter Springs, Florida: remarked about
increased taxes, Millage Rates; outside sponsors for community events; and outsourcing
or similar ideas to save taxpayers money.
Mr. Tom Armstrong, 103 Ashford Drive, Winter Springs, Florida: commented on the
Fire Consolidation; exchange of costs; and asked the City Commission to make taxes
more equitable across the board.
Mr. Ron Ligthart, 1036 Winding Waters Circle, Winter Springs, Florida: mentioned a
spreadsheet he had prepared for the City Commission.
Ms. Avery Knoll, 201 Arrowhead Court, Winter Springs, Florida: commented on the
base; revenue; and suggested the City work with other similar communities in dealing
with issues in Tallahassee.
Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
Much discussion.
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Tape 2/Side B
Commissioner Robert S. Miller commented for the Record about his preference for the
suggested two (2) new Police Officers.
"MOTION THAT WE ACCEPT THE CITY MANAGER'S
RECOMMENDATION NUMBER `1' WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE
IMPLEMENTATION OF THE CODY STUDY FOR .0149 MILLS; THE
IMPLEMENTATION OF THE COMPRESSION ADJUSTMENT FOR .0759
MILLS; AND WITHOUT THE 4TH OF JULY CELEBRATION FOR A MILEAGE
REDUCTION OF - .0297 WHICH LEAVES US WITH A TOTAL OPERATING
MILEAGE OF 2.4937 OR A .5401 REDUCTION FROM OUR TENTATIVE
MILEAGE STATED IN THE TRIM NOTICE." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER
BROWN.
MOTION DIED FOR LACK OF A SECOND.
Discussion.
Mayor Bush called a Recess at 6:25 p. m.
The Regular Meeting was called back to Order at 6: 36 p. m.
Further discussion.
City Manager Ronald W. McLemore addressed the City Commission.
Discussion ensued with Mr. Kevin Smith, Director, General Services Department
addressed the City Commission on several scenarios related to the Millage.
"I NEED TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE A THREE PERCENT
(3%) ACROSS THE BOARD, A HUNDRED FIFTY-THREE THOUSAND,
THREE HUNDRED TWENTY-FIVE [DOLLARS] ($153,325.00) FOR
COMPRESSION ADJUSTMENT, FIFTEEN THOUSAND [DOLLARS]
($15,000.00) FOR LOT CLEARING AND A HUNDRED SEVENTEEN
THOUSAND, FIVE HUNDRED SIXTY-FOUR [DOLLARS] ($117,564.00) FOR
TWO (2) POLICE OFFICERS." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MILLER.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. DISCUSSION.
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VOTE:
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: NAY
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: NAY
COMMISSIONER KREBS: NAY
MOTION DID NOT CARRY.
Mayor Bush called a Recess at 6:59 p. m.
The Regular Meeting was called back to Order at 7:15 p. m.
Tape 3/Side A
Much discussion continued.
With a discussion on various items, Mayor Bush asked, "What about across the board -
three percent (3%)?" Commissioner Rick Brown stated, "Three percent (3%)."
Commissioner Sally McGinnis noted, "Three [percent] (3%)." Mayor Bush pointed out,
"We have three (3) people who say three [percent] (3%)."
Discussion.
Mayor Bush asked about "Lot clearing?" Commissioner Brown said, "Yes."
Commissioner McGinnis remarked, "Absolutely." No objections were heard. Mayor
Bush clarified, "Lot clearing is in there."
Mayor Bush stated, "The Fire Department position had been taken care of. It should not
be up there. That -person has taken another job in the City that is already funded, so it is
not a new position."
With further comments, Mr. Smith explained that three percent (3%) Merit -three
[percent] (3%) across the board and the lot clearing - 2.4714.
"I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THAT MOTION THAT WE SET THE MILEAGE
AT 2.4714." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BROWN. SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. DISCUSSION.
MAYOR BUSH ADDED, "THE MERIT WAS AT ZERO -THREE PERCENT (0-
3%) -THREE PERCENT (3%) ACROSS THE BOARD INCREASE FOR ALL
EMPLOYEES, AND THE LOT CLEARING -WHICH COMES DOWN TO THE
2.4714."
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VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: NAY
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: NAY
MOTION CARRIED.
Mayor Bush called a Recess.
The Regular Meeting was called back to Order by Mayor Bush.
INFORMATIONAL AGENDA
INFORMATIONAL
100. Community Development Department
Advising The City Commission Of The Status Of Various Current Planning
Proiects.
This Agenda Item was not discussed.
MOTION TO APPROVE INFORMATIONAL AGENDA.
SECONDED. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
CONSENT AGENDA
MOTION.
CONSENT
200. Public Works Department
Requests The City Commission Validate The Staff Recommendation Finding The
Town Center Building 17 Site To Be Built In Substantial Accordance With The
Final Engineering Plans And To Accept The Potable Water And Sanitary Sewer
Infrastructure For Ownership And Maintenance.
No discussion.
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CONSENT
201. Public Works Department - Stormwater Division
Requesting Authorization To Enter Into A Contract Agreement With Lake Masters
Aquatic Weed Control, Inc. For Aquatic Weed Control And Maintenance Services
Of Certain Ponds.
This Agenda Item was not discussed.
CONSENT
202. Utility/Public Works Department
Requesting Approval To Award Bid #ITB-013/08/KL And Enter Into A Contract
To Construct The Two Remaining Utility/Public Works Storage Buildings.
There was no discussion on this Agenda Item.
CONSENT
203. Parks And Recreation Department
Requesting Authorization To Award The Contract For Landscape Maintenance
And Chemical Services For Winter Springs Neighborhood Parks.
No discussion.
CONSENT
204. Office Of The City Clerk
Approval Of The September 2, 2008 City Commission Workshop Minutes.
This Agenda Item was not discussed.
CONSENT
205. Office Of The City Clerk
Approval of the September 8, 2008 City Commission Regular Meeting Minutes.
There was no discussion on this Agenda Item.
CONSENT
206. Office Of The City Clerk
Approval Of The September 15, 2008 City Commission Workshop Minutes.
No discussion.
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CONSENT
207. Information Services Department
Requests The Commission Authorize The City Manager To Enter Into A Contract
With Pride Enterprises For The Outsourcing Of Imaging Services And The
Expenditure Of $50,000.00 Which Is Already Budgeted For The Records
Management Project.
Brief discussion.
MOTION TO APPROVE CONSENT AGENDA. MOTION. SECONDED.
DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
AWARDS AND PRESENTATIONS
AWARDS AND PRESENTATIONS
300. Office Of The Mayor
Presentation Of A Proclamation Recognizing "Mental Illness Awareness Week"
Mayor Bush presented a Proclamation in honor of "Mental Illness Awareness Week".
Discussion followed on a related Event in Altamonte Springs on October 1 1, 2008.
AWARDS AND PRESENTATIONS
301. Oviedo-Winter Springs Regional Chamber Of Commerce
ADD-ON
Oviedo-Winter Springs Regional Chamber Of Commerce Wishes To Present The
City Of Winter Springs With An Award.
Mr. Charles Lacey and Ms. Brenda Hayes Brown presented a framed poster of the 2008
Festival of the Arts to the City. Mayor Bush noted, "Andrea (Lorenzo-Luaces, City
Clerk) will find an appropriate place for this."
Brief discussion.
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REPORTS
REPORTS
400. Office Of The City Attorney -Anthony A. Garganese, Esquire
No Report.
REPORTS
401. Office Of The City Manager -Ronald W. McLemore
Manager McLemore stated, "We've got about eighty percent (80%) of the Fall Harvest
committed. I am pretty confident we can commit to the rest - we can get the rest of it.
My question to you is with that commitment, are you comfortable with going ahead or do
we still need to wait?" With further comments, Manager McLemore noted, "We're about
two thousand dollars ($2,000.00) of£"
"I MOVE VVE MOVE FORWARD -COMMIT TO PROCEED WITH THE
HOMETOWN HARVEST." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BROWN. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
REPORTS
402. Office Of The City Clerk -Andrea Lorenzo-Luaces, CMC
No Report.
REPORTS
403. Commission Seat Two -Rick Brown
Commissioner Brown commented on the 2"d Annual "Jingle Bell SK" scheduled for
Saturday, December 13, 2008 and that we are open for registering runners and would
accept Sponsors.
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REPORTS
404. Commission Seat Three/Deputy Mayor -Donald A. Gilmore
Deputy Mayor Donald A. Gilmore commented about the offer during Public Input to
form a Committee to find Sponsors for Special Events to represent the City Commission.
Manager McLemore said, "You need to bring this back as an Agenda Item with a
Resolution creating an entity and we need to figure out -because we are about to go out
the door with the RFP (Request for Proposal) on the other person -how this all works
together. But if you want to create this Committee, then you are going to need to do it by
Resolution of the City." Mayor Bush suggested, "At the next regularly scheduled
Meeting." Manager McLemore stated, "Okay."
REPORTS
405. Commission Seat Four -Sally McGinnis
Commissioner McGinnis commented further on a proposed Committee to find Sponsors
for Special Events and Commissioner McGinnis suggested these people need something
in writing from the City.
Manager McLemore noted, "There's nothing to stop them from going out and saying
they're soliciting money and they should have something in their hands..."
Commissioner McGinnis remarked, "...That is the issue." Manager McLemore then
asked, "Are they going to hold money; are they going to send it to the City?"
Commissioner McGinnis then asked Manager McLemore, "Would you work with Chris
(Carson, Parks and Recreation Department)?" Manager McLemore replied, "I'd be more
than happy to."
Secondly, Commissioner McGinnis commented about the helicopter pad at the South
Seminole Hospital on State Road 434.
REPORTS
406. Commission Seat Five -Joanne M. Krebs
No Report.
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REPORTS
407. Office Of The Mayor -John F. Bush
Mayor Bush stated, "Susie (Coffman, Senior Center Manager, Parks and Recreation
Department) had sent me a Memo about - a walk through at the Senior Center over the
Therapy Pool and the renovations there." Mayor Bush said to City Clerk Lorenzo-
Luaces, "Would you make sure the Commissioners all know the time of that walk-
through."
REPORTS
408. Commission Seat One -Robert S. Miller
No Report.
• • AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING PUBLIC HEARINGS AGENDA
ITEMS "500" AND "501" WERE DISCUSSED NEXT. PUBLIC HEARINGS
AGENDA ITEM "500" WAS ALSO DISCUSSED PREVIOUSLY, AS NOTED ON
PAGES 1-5 OF THESE MINUTES. • •
PUBLIC HEARINGS AGENDA (PART I)
PUBLIC HEARINGS
500. Office Of The City Manager
Requesting That The City Commission Hold A Public Hearing Relative To The
Approval Of Resolution Number 2008-47, Which Establishes The Final Operating
Millage Rate And The Final Voted Debt Service Millage Rate For Fiscal Year 2008-
2009 For The City Of Winter Springs.
City Attorney Anthony A. Garganese stated for the Record, "I need to publicly announce
the Final Operating Millage rate of 2.4714 Mills, is 32.31 percent less than the computed
Rolled-Back Rate of 3.6512."
"I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT THE CITY OF WINTER
SPRINGS ADOPT RESOLUTION 2008-47 ESTABLISHING THE FINAL
OPERATING MILEAGE RATE AT 2.4714 MILLS, ESTABLISHING THE
VOTED DEBT SERVICE AT .1100 MILLS AND PUBLICLY ANNOUNCE THAT
THE FINAL OPERATING MILEAGE IS 32.31 PERCENT LESS THAN THE
COMPUTED ROLLED-BACK RATE OF 3.6512 MILLS." MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER BROWN. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS.
DISCUSSION.
MAYOR BUSH NOTED, "I WILL GIVE A COPY OF THIS TO THE CLERK."
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VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: NAY
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: NAY
MOTION CARRIED.
501. Office Of The City Manager
Requesting That The City Commission Hold A Public Hearing Relative To The
Approval Of Resolution Number 2008-48, Establishing The Final Budget For Fiscal
Year 2008-2009.
Ms. Michelle Greco, Director, Finance Department addressed the City Commission on
this Agenda Item.
Continuing, Ms. Greco explained, "Adoption of the Millage rate of 2.4714 mills and a
Voted Debt Service Millage Rate of .1100 Mills -gives us total expenditures in this Final
Budget of General Fund seventeen million, four hundred and sixty thousand, two hundred
and ninety-two dollars ($17,460,292.00), other Governmental Funds of twenty million,
sixteen thousand seven hundred and sixty-nine dollars ($20,016,769.00) and Enterprise
Funds of twelve million, eight hundred thirty-three thousand, five hundred forty-four
dollars ($12,833,544.00), for a total Budget of fifty million, three hundred and ten
thousand, six hundred and five dollars ($50,310,605.00)."
Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
No one spoke.
Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
"MOTION TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NUMBER 2008-48 IN THE AMOUNT
STATED." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER BROWN. DISCUSSION.
MAYOR BUSH NOTED, "MICHELLE (GRECO), WOULD YOU MAKE SURE
THOSE NUMBERS THAT YOU READ OFF WERE FILLED IN AND GIVE IT
TO THE CLERK, SO, THAT SHE RECORDS IT ACCURATELY." MS. GRECO
STATED, "YES, SIR."
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VOTE:
COMMISSIONER KREBS: NAY
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: NAY
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Deputy Mayor Gilmore asked that copies of the Resolution be placed in their mail boxes
tomorrow.
PUBLIC INPUT
No one addressed the City Commission at this time.
PUBLIC HEARINGS AGENDA (PART II)
PUBLIC HEARINGS
502. Office Of The City Attorney
Second Reading And Adoption Of Ordinance 2008-15, Authorizing The Inclusion
Of The City In Seminole County's Fire And Emergency Services Municipal Taxing
Unit.
Attorney Garganese read the Ordinance by "Title" only.
Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
No one spoke.
Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
~~MOTION TO APPROVE (ORDINANCE 2008-15)." MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER BROWN. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS.
DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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PUBLIC HEARINGS
503. Community Development Department -Planning Division
Requests The City Commission Conduct A Public Hearing For The 2"d Reading
And Adoption Of Ordinance 2008-17, Annexing A Parcel Located At 1072 West SR
[State Road] 434 (East Of SR (State Road] 417), Equaling Approximately 7.06 Acres
And Owned By East Coast Believers Church Inc.
Attorney Garganese read the Ordinance by "Title" only.
Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
Mr. Montje S. Plank, P.E., Senior Vice President, Central Florida Land Design
Corporation, 800 North Maitland Avenue, Suite 110, Maitland, Florida: briefly
addressed the City Commission.
Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
"MOTION TO APPROVE (ORDINANCE 2008-17)." MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE.
DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
504. Community Development Department -Planning Division
Requests That The City Commission Hold A Public Hearing For First Reading Of
Ordinance 2008-12, Which Rezones Two (2) Parcels Containing 28.9 Gross Acres,
More Or Less, Located At 1900 DeLeon Street (The Southwest Corner Of DeLeon
Street And Howard Avenue) From (Seminole County) "A-3 Agricultural" To (City
Of Winter Springs) "R-C1 Single Family Dwelling District" (Min. [Minimum] Lot
Size-1 Acrel.
Mayor Bush stated, "Can we have a Motion to read by `Title' only?"
"SO MOVED." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BROWN. SECONDED BY
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE. DISCUSSION.
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VOTE:
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Attorney Garganese read the Ordinance by "Title" only.
Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
No one spoke on this Agenda Item.
Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
Ms. Eloise Sahlstrom, ASLA, AICP, Senior Planner, Community Development
Department briefly addressed the City Commission.
Discussion
Tape 3/Side B
Further brief discussion.
"MOTION TO APPROVE (ORDINANCE 2008-12)." MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER BROWN. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS.
DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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PUBLIC HEARINGS
505. Community Development Department
Request The Commission Consider The Aesthetic Review For A 4,232 S.F. (Square
Foot) Single Story Office/Retail Building, A 320 S.F. (Square Foot) Storage
Building, And Other Site Improvements On APie-Shaped 0.73 Acre Property At
The Northeast Corner Of SR (State Road) 434 And Central Winds Drive (Also
Abuts Central Winds Parkway a.k.a. [Also Known As] Old SR [State Road] 434),
Within The Town Center.
Mr. Randy Stevenson, ASLA, AICP, Director, Community Development Department
introduced this Agenda Item.
Mr. Bill Starmer, Starmer Ranaldi Planning and Architecture, Inc., 820 West Broadway
Street, Suite 3000, Oviedo, Florida: spoke briefly on this Agenda Item.
Manager McLemore stated, "What we're asking you to do is to just give us the authority
to work these things out - we don't have to come back to you. Of course, the Applicant
can come back if he is not satisfied." Mayor Bush said, "Just work it out."
Commissioner McGinnis noted, "That is good."
Commissioner Miller noted that "This property here is all school property and this is the
access road, Tuskawilla Road -right there, it says `Not accessible'," which means you
can't get on to [State Road] 434 there. Is there some possibility that will be opened up at
some point in the future?"
Manager McLemore answered, "Yes. Not a road, but a sidewalk, or something of that
nature. That is one of the things we have to negotiate."
Commissioner Miller continued, "You could really put a real nice feature in there -you
obviously would have to get some land from the School Board, and I am not sure they
would be willing to give it up, but even if they weren't, maybe some kind of an
Agreement that we could use it for, like a pocket park that we were talking about."
Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item
No one spoke.
Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
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"I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ALLOW STAFF AND THE
APPLICANT TO CONTINUE WORKING ON THESE FINAL ITEMS AND
THAT THE APPLICANT FEEL EMPOWERED TO COME BACK BEFORE
THIS COMMISSION, IF THEY FEEL THEY ARE BOGGED DOWN
INAPPROPRIATELY." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BROWN. SECONDED
BY DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Mr. Stevenson asked, "If I could clarify that, that Motion was for Approval and to
empower Staff to work out our..." Mayor Bush noted, "...Yes. Work it out."
Commissioner Miller departed the Regular Meeting at 8: 40 p. m.
REGULAR AGENDA
REGULAR
600. Community Development Department
Requests The Commission Consider The Final Engineering/Site Plan For A 4,232
S.F. (Square Foot) Single Story Office/Retail Building, A 320 S.F. (Square Foot)
Storage Building, And Other Site Improvements On APie-Shaped 0.73 Acre
Property At The Northeast Corner Of SR (State Road) 434 And Central Winds
Drive (Also Abuts Central Winds Parkway a.k.a. [Also Known As] Old SR [State
Road] 434), Within The Town Center.
Mr. Stevenson addressed the City Commission on this Agenda Item.
Mr. Bill Starmer, Starmer Ranaldi Planning and Architecture, Inc., 820 West Broadway
Street, Suite 3000, Oviedo, Florida: spoke on the sidewalks situation.
Mr. Brian Fields, P.E., City Engineer, Public Works Department commented on
sidewalks.
Discussion.
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Mayor Bush suggested, "We need to ask the school to finish building that sidewalk." Mr.
Stevenson stated, "Granted, this is an incremental piece to a network that currently
doesn't exist, but it is an incremental piece, and it is a requirement of your
Comprehensive Plan."
Deputy Mayor Gilmore proposed, "Can we not write it into the Development Order or
form that says that in the future, if there is a need for it, then the Developer will put the
sidewalk in."
Mr. Stevenson remarked, "Once Staff works with the Applicant and we iron all this out,
one of the items that does have to come back to you is the DA (Development Agreement)
for this project." Discussion.
Further, Mr. Stevenson noted, "There is no intended use once you get beyond this
entrance here - it does come in this way; it does attach to an existing sidewalk; it does
become a part of a network; although a lot of that network as Brian (Fields) said, is not in
place at this time, and a lot of that network would need to be on school property."
Commissioner McGinnis remarked, "I do agree with Commissioner Gilmore. My
question is, how do you establish the need down the line?"
Manager McLemore said, In the overall plan for your Town Center, there's a sidewalk
coming all the way through there, around the pond area." Manager McLemore added,
"We're asking them to give us an Easement over that property for a pocket park. Is that
not worth ten thousand dollars ($10,000.00) over a long period of time to put in our street
and sidewalk plan?" Mr. Stevenson stated, "Yes." Manager McLemore then noted,
"Isn't that a fair deal?" Commissioner Krebs commented, "Yes." Commissioner
McGinnis remarked, "Yes."
Mayor Bush stated, "So you are suggesting the City pay for the sidewalk?" Manager
McLemore remarked, "I'm suggesting that at some point in time as we build out that
section, when we put the sidewalk in, in return for their agreement to give us -the
Easement for recreation purposes as a pocket park." Commissioner McGinnis agreed and
stated, "Okay."
"I MAKE THE MOTION THAT WE ASK FOR A FUTURE EASEMENT ON
THE RETENTION POND FOR A RECREATION AREA AND IN LIGHT OF
THAT, WE WOULD -THE CITY WOULD RUN THE SIDEWALKS AT SOME
FUTURE TIME AS REQUIRED." MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. DISCUSSION.
COMMISSIONER BROWN NOTED, "IS THERE ANY REASON WHY THAT
WOULDN'T BE ACCEPTABLE TO THE APPLICANT? NO? OKAY."
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VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Discussion.
Mr. Stevenson said, "The bicycle rack currently exists right here, in the main entrance.
They have agreed to move that at some point. That would be one of the points of
negotiation between Staff and the Applicant; probably to an area, maybe over in here by
this walkway, or something a little more appropriate than right in this main entrance to
this entrance plaza from the building there." Deputy Mayor Gilmore, "Why do they need
a bicycle rack?"
Continuing, Mr. Stevenson explained, "We don't know what else will be in this particular
building." Furthermore, Mr. Stevenson noted, "The pedestrian nature of the Town Center
has certain elements into it, one of those is bike racks. The Applicant had put in a single
bike rack. We had talked with them and we felt like the location was inappropriate."
Manager McLemore stated, "Overall, it is part of the Town Center design to encourage
bike traffic and bike use."
"I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT STAFF CONTINUE TO WORK
WITH THE APPLICANT ON THE FINAL ITEMS THAT ARE OUTSTANDING
ON THIS." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BROWN. SECONDED BY
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE. DISCUSSION.
MR. STEVENSON STATED, "I THINK WE'RE CLOSE ENOUGH BASED
UPON TONIGHT, BUT IF YOU WOULD ALLOW US TO WORK WITH THEM
ON THESE FINAL ITEMS AND APPROVE WHAT WE HAVE. THAT'S WHAT
WE WOULD PREFER, IS NOT TO HAVE TO BRING IT BACK TO YOU."
COMMISSIONER BROWN RESTATED HIS MOTION, "THAT STAFF
CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE APPLICANT AND BRING THIS ITEM TO
A CLOSE, AS MUTUALLY AGREEABLE TO BOTH PARTIES."
MR. STEVENSON ADDED, "YOU WILL BE SEEING, DEPENDENT UPON
THOSE NEGOTIATIONS, YOU WILL BE SEEING A DEVELOPMENT
AGREEMENT COME BACK TO YOU ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM."
SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE. DISCUSSION.
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VOTE:
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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601. Public Works Department
Requests The City Commission Review And Approve The Combined Preliminary
And Final Engineering/Site Plan For The Proposed St. Johns River Water
Management District Solary Canal Stormwater Treatment Area On Approximately
28.9 Acres, Located On The East Side Of DeLeon Street In The City Of Winter
Springs.
Mr. Fields commented on this Agenda Item.
Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
Mr. Ed Riday, 1626 Wrentham Court, Winter Springs, Florida: noted that he was
representing several homeowners, and noted, "Brian (Fields) - we have been dealing with
him a lot. He has been very friendly and helping us, meeting with us. Coming out to our
houses and explaining what is going to happen. And, we all, the Homeowners like what
is going to happen. The only concern we have is protection from alligators."
Mr. Riday added, "We just want to make sure there's a requirement that the black chain
link fence be built; that it is down to the ground so that alligators can't get under it, and
that it is painted black, and that it is not on the property line. We wish it back at least five
-ten feet (5 -10') from the property line."
As to the best fence height, Mr. Riday commented, "We all agree with six [feet] (6') is
fine." With additional comments, Mr. Riday commented, "We also want to make sure
it's not right on the property line."
"I AM GOING TO MAKE A MOTION THAT STAFF WORK WITH THE
HOMEOWNERS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE FINAL PLAN INCLUDES
THEIR CONCERNS AND ADDRESSES THEM APPROPRIATELY." MOTION
BY COMMISSIONER BROWN. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS.
DISCUSSION.
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DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE ADDED, "WHEN YOU PUT A FENCE INSIDE
THE PROPERTY LINE, YOU CREATE A NO-MAN'S LAND OF
MAINTENANCE. AND, I THINK ANYTHING YOU DO IN THERE, YOU ARE
GOING TO NEED TO PUT THAT IN SOME DEVELOPMENT ORDER IN
THAT AS TO RESPONSIBILITY; BUT THEN AGAIN, YOU HAVE TO BE
CAUTIOUS, BECAUSE THEY TAKE CARE OF IT FOR TWENTY (20) YEARS,
THEN THEY CAN CLAIM IT AS THEIR OWN PROPERTY."
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Mr. Riday added, "No one is going to maintain it." Furthermore, Mr. Riday explained,
"It's all natural. I'm not going to do anything to it." Additionally, Mr. Riday
commented, "No, we're not going to make it part of our yards."
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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602. Office Of The City Manager
ADD-ON
Requesting The City Commission To Review The Facts Surrounding An Insurance
Issue Related To Fire Consolidation.
Mr. Smith spoke on this Agenda Item.
Discussion.
"I WANT TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE STAFF'S
RECOMMENDATION ON THIS." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BROWN.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER KREBS.
COMMISSIONER BROWN ADDED, "STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS
THERE IS NO BASIS FOR THE CITY TO GET INVOLVED IN THIS MATTER,
SINCE THE COUNTY HAS ALREADY AGREED TO ABSORB THE
EMPLOYER COST FOR THE OCTOBER DEPENDENT COVERAGE.
THEREFORE, IT IS RECOMMENDED THAT THE REQUEST FOR THE CITY
TO PAY SUCH A REDUNDANT EXPENSE BE DENIED."
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DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
•• AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING REGULAR AGENDA ITEM
WAS DISCUSSED NEXT, FOLLOWED BY THE REST OF THE AGENDA. • •
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606. Office Of The City Manager
ADD-ON
Requesting The City Commission To Review A Request Of The Fire Department To
Give Firemen Consolidating One Day Of Vacation Or Sick Leave Credit On Their
Last Paycheck.
This Agenda Item was presented by Mr. Smith.
"I AM GOING TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE REQUEST
ON THIS ONE." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BROWN. SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER KREBS. DISCUSSION.
MAYOR BUSH NOTED, "THE MOTION IS TO APPROVE -GIVE THE
FIREMEN THE ABILITY TO CONSOLIDATE ONE DAY OF VACATION OR
SICK LEAVE CREDIT ON THEIR LAST PAYCHECK."
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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REGULAR
603. Information Services Department
Requests The Commission Discuss Chambers Audio System Issues And Provide
Direction As To How Thev Wish To Proceed.
Ms. Joanne Dalka, Director, Information Services Department spoke on this Agenda
Item.
Discussion.
Mayor Bush said, "I think Commissioners, I think that we have to make an effort to lean
forward, speak into the mic[rophone], turn your mic[rophone] on - I try to watch that as
much as I can and then when you are not recognized to speak, don't talk - or turn your
mic[rophone] off, so it doesn't pick you up."
"I WAS GOING TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE DO NOT CONSIDER THIS
AT THIS TIME." MOTION MADE BY COMMISIONER BROWN. SECONDED
BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: NAY
MOTION CARRIED.
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604. Information Services Department
Requests The Commission Consider e-Alerts As A Method Of Email
Communication With Residents; Determine Which Lists Are To Be Added To The
System; And Determine How email Addresses Should Be Collected To Be Added To
The System.
Ms. Dalka addressed the City Commission on this Agenda Item.
Commissioner Krebs suggested that Ms. Dalka add to the Website, "If we agree to this,
and somebody is going to sign up, that by Law their email address could be shared." Ms.
Dalka noted, "We have that at the bottom, however, we felt that we were going to tweak
that a little bit -especially on the pages for e-Alerts and for this -whatever new list that
we have. We have that on every page of our Website."
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Furthermore, Commissioner Krebs added, "I am just afraid they are not going to see that
part." Ms. Dalka added, "We'll put it up in the body - up where they can see it."
Commissioner McGinnis suggested, "That was exactly my concern; and I think it should
be prominently displayed where you are more likely to see it, than not see it. They have
to understand that -their email will be a matter of public record. We have to make every
effort that that is prominent."
Further discussion.
"I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE WITH THE
REQUEST THAT JOANNE (DALKA) AND HER STAFF COME BACK WITH
SOME REFINED RECOMMENDATIONS AS TO LISTS AND I AM SURE THAT
YOU CAN WORK WITH THE CITY MANAGER, AND THAT YOU PROBABLY
KNOW THE LIST THAT WE WOULD BE MOST LIKELY TO BE
REQUESTING; AND THAT WE COME BACK WITH THE OPERATION OF
THE SYSTEM TO ASSURE THE REST OF THE COMMISSION, HOW
CITIZENS WILL BE ABLE TO BE PROTECTED AND THEIR PRIVACY
PROTECTED IF THEY CHOOSE NOT TO PARTICIPATE." MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER BROWN. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER KREBS.
DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
REGULAR
605. Office Of The City Clerk
Requests The City Commission Consider Requested Information Regarding The
Current Performance Review For The City Clerk Due September 27, 2008.
City Clerk Lorenzo-Luaces briefly introduced this Agenda Item.
Mayor Bush stated, "I think Andrea (Lorenzo-Luaces) is to be congratulated for her
professionalism and her efforts to become even more professional." Commissioner
Krebs stated, "Yes." Commissioner McGinnis remarked, "Yes." Mayor Bush added, "I
think it speaks well for the Commission who have hired such a progressive Clerk."
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"MOTION TO GIVE ANDREA (CITY CLERK LORENZO-LUACES) FOUR
PERCENT (4%) INCREASE." MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER KREBS.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BROWN. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
City Clerk Lorenzo-Luaces thanked the City Commission.
In other City business, further brief discussion followed on the Budget process.
ADJOURNMENT
Mayor Bush adjourned the Regular Meeting at 9:32 p.m.
RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED:
LaDONNA SLAYTER, ASSISTANT TO THE CITY CLERK AND
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A R A LORENZO-LUACES, MMC
CITY CLERK
APPROVED:
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MA ~ :Z JOHN ~. BUSH
NOTE: These Minutes were approved at the October l3, 2008 Regular City Commission Meeting.