HomeMy WebLinkAbout2008 08 25 Consent 204 Approval of the August 4, 2008 City Commission Special MinutesCITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA
MINUTES
CITY COMMISSION
SPECIAL MEETING
AUGUST 4, 2008
CALL TO ORDER
The Special Meeting of Monday, August 4, 2008 of the City Commission was called to
Order by Mayor John F. Bush at 5:30 p.m. in the Commission Chambers of the
Municipal Building (City Hall, 1126 East State Road 434, Winter Springs, Florida
32708).
Roll Call:
Mayor John F. Bush, present
Deputy Mayor Donald A. Gilmore, present
Commissioner Robert S. Miller, present
Commissioner Rick Brown, present
Commissioner Sally McGinnis, present
Commissioner Joanne M. Krebs, present
City Manager Ronald W. McLemore, present
City Attorney Anthony A. Garganese, present
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A moment of silence was followed by the Pledge of Allegiance.
Mayor Bush opened "Public Input ".
No one spoke at this time.
Mayor Bush closed "Public Input ".
REGULAR AGENDA
REGULAR
600. Office Of The City Manager
Requesting That The City Commission Approve Resolution Number 2008-33,
Computing The Proposed Operating And Voted Debt Service Millage Rates For
Fiscal Year 2008-2009, Establishing The Rolled-Back Rate, And Setting The Date,
Time And Place Of A Public Hearing To Consider The Proposed Millage Rate And
Tentative Budget For Fiscal Year 2008-2009.
Mr. Kevin Smith, Director, General Services Department addressed the City Commission
regarding this Agenda Item.
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CITY COMMISSION
SPECIAL MEETING -AUGUST 4, 2008
PAGE 2 OF 6
Brief discussion.
"I WILL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ACCEPT THE CITY MANAGER'S
RECOMMENDATIONS AND SET THE MILEAGE AT 3.1438 WHICH
INCLUDES THE .1100 -VOTED DEBT." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER
MILLER. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. DISCUSSION.
MR. SMITH ASKED, "IF I COULD ALSO REQUEST THAT YOU RECOGNIZE
THE ROLLED-BACK RATE AT 3.6512 MILS AND SET THE FIRST PUBLIC
HEARING AT SEPTEMBER THE 8TH, 2008 AT 5:15 [P.M.] AT CITY HALL, IF
THAT'D BE YOUR PLEASURE."
COMMISSIONER MILLER ADDED, "I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THAT
ENTERED INTO THE RECORD AS PART OF THE MOTION, IF NO ONE HAS
ANY OBJECTION." COMMISSIONER McGINNIS STATED, "NO
OBJECTION."
MAYOR BUSH REITERATED, "SO, THE MOTION NOW INCLUDES THE
ROLLED-BACK RATE 3.6512 AND THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING ON
SEPTEMBER THE 8TH [2008], 5:15 [P.M.]."
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
REGULAR
601. Office Of The City Manager
Requesting Commission To Consider Advisory Recommendations From The Board
Of Trustees On Pension Matters Related To The Consolidation Of Winter Springs
Fire And Emergency Medical Service With Seminole County.
Mr. Smith introduced this Agenda Item and presented several issues for consideration.
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Mr. Jeff McCall, Winter Springs Professional Firefighters: commented on requested
negotiations; requests that Firefighters had made; years of Service; Consolidation; and
the four hundred thirty thousand dollars ($430,000.00) amount that was referenced.
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CITY COMMISSION
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PAGE 3 OF 6
City Manager Ronald W. McLemore stated, "These issues about injunctions; we have
followed the law specifically with continuous guidance from our Attorneys."
Discussion.
Mr. Michael S. Blake, 711 Canadice Lane, Winter Springs, Florida: addressed the City
Commission and noted that he was speaking as a citizen and not as a Member of the
Board of Trustees.
Much discussion.
Mr. Brad Curl, Winter Springs Professional Firefighters: commented on the four
hundred thirty thousand dollars ($430,000.00) amount.
Mr. Blake referenced that this is an actuarial analysis and stated, "Actual people's time of
service, wage earnings, benefit amount, and their date of birth -their age is utilized in the
calculation."
Tape 1/Side B
Note: Due to technical d~culties, the audio on this side begins halfivay through this audiotape.
Mr. Curl further addressed the City Commission and asked that the City Commission
take care of the "gap" Firefighters.
"I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE BOARD
OF TRUSTEES REGARDING THE CONSOLIDATION OF RELATED PENSION
MATTERS IN ITEM `601'." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MILLER. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: NAY
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: NAY
MOTION CARRIED.
REGULAR
602. Office Of The City Manager
Requesting The City Commission To Consider Adoption Of The Rotary Club Of
Winter Springs' Recommended Operating Policy For The Veterans Memorial.
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Manager McLemore addressed the City Commission regarding this Agenda Item.
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CITY COMMISSION
SPECIAL MEETING -AUGUST 4, 2008
PAGE 4 OF 6
With discussion, Commissioner Sally McGinnis noted, "If somebody wanted to send
money and have their parent memorialized who had never lived in the City, that doesn't
bother me."
Manager McLemore then said to the City Commission "If someone that lived in Oviedo,
they had no connection to Winter Springs and they wanted their father's name put on the
Winter Springs Veterans Memorial, is that okay?" Commissioner Robert S. Miller
stated, "Yes." Commissioner Joanne M. Krebs remarked, "Yes." Commissioner
McGinnis added, "That is okay with me." Deputy Mayor Donald A. Gilmore noted, "I
have no problem with that personally."
Mayor Bush asked how Veterans status would be verified? Manager McLemore
responded, "Our intent is to verify them all through -various Departments."
Continuing the discussion, Mayor Bush noted, "`Two members' - `The City of Winter
Springs and the Rotary Club shall each designate two members'...." Mayor Bush added,
"Means only -two (2) Commissioners can appoint somebody." Manager McLemore
suggested, "Maybe you all need to nominate..." °'
"I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE ITEM `602'..."
MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER
BROWN. DISCUSSION.
MAYOR BUSH ASKED, "...AND APPROVING -WHAT THEY CALL THE
CHARTER, AS WELL?" DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE ADDED, "AND "~"'
APPROVING THE CHARTER."
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Discussion continued regarding when the Veterans Memorial would be ready. Manager
McLemore explained, "We talked about it -being dedicated on Veteran's Day -which is
November the 11th, I believe. We also talked about -the fact that before the final touches
go on that we probably would have something built around it so that we could have an
unveiling on Veteran's Day. So that is the intent - to have an unveiling and Dedication
on Veteran's Day."
Deputy Mayor Gilmore hoped it would be near complete when the Arts Festival begins.
Commissioner Rick Brown suggested securing the construction site before the Arts
Festival starts. Manager McLemore replied, "Okay."
CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA
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CITY COMMISSION
SPECIAL MEETING -AUGUST 4, 2008
PAGE 5 OF 6
Commissioner Sally McGinnis recommended that the "reservation" form for the
Veteran's Memorial be placed in all future Newsletters. Manager McLemore suggested,
"We do an insert once a year, or something like that?" Commissioner McGinnis agreed
and then suggested that `reservation' forms also be placed in the lobby and at the VFW
(Veterans of Foreign Wars). Manager McLemore said, "Sure."
Regarding transportation being cut for citizens who work for the Seminole Work
Opportunity Program (SWOP), Mayor Bush stated, "I would like to see the Commission
encourage the School Board to find a way to fund the transportation." Mayor Bush
added, "What I am asking the Commission is - a Resolution in support of the School
Board reevaluating this."
"SO MOVED." MAYOR BUSH STATED, "MOTION BY COMMISSIONER
BROWN. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER GILMORE - TO CONSTRUCT A
RESOLUTION ENCOURAGING THE SCHOOL BOARD TO CONTINUE TO
FUND THE TRANSPORTATION OF THE SWOP [SEMINOLE WORK ~
OPPORTUNITY PROGRAM] PEOPLE." DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
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COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE ~'
MOTION CARRIED.
In other City business, Manager McLemore mentioned that fire insurance costs would
possibly be reevaluated and that citizens of the Ranchlands might be affected with higher
rates due to no fire hydrants in their area; and that in the future, there might be a renewed
interest in the City extending water to that area. Manager McLemore added, "Maybe I
could just put out to you a Memorandum showing you what it would cost on an average -
basis."
Regarding the Scottish Highland Games Event set for January 2009, Manager McLemore
said to the City Commission, "On the table in discussion was their interest in having a
similar partnership like they had last year where the Chamber and the City and they put
up twelve thousand dollars ($12,000.00) each to fund that -Saturday night Event in the
Town Center. So, I need some thought from you as to how to go forward with this."
Brief discussion.
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Continuing, Manager McLemore suggested, "I can put this on the Agenda for the next
Meeting, if you'd like, for further discussion." Commissioner Brown remarked, "Yes,
put it on the Agenda." Commissioner Krebs added, "Yes, Agenda it." No objections
were noted. Mayor Bush said, "I agree. I think the Consensus is to put it on the
Agenda."
Further discussion.
ADJOURNMENT
Mayor Bush adjourned the Special Meeting at 6:26 p.m.
RESPECTFULLYSUBMITTED BY
ANDREA LORENZO-L UACES, CMC CITY CLERK AND
DANIELLE HARKER
DEPUTY CITY CLERK
APPROVED:
JOHN F. BUSH
MAYOR
NOTE: These Minutes were approved at the , 2008 Regular City Commission Meeting.
CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA
MINUTES
CITY COMMISSION
SPECIAL MEETING
AUGUST 4, 2008
CALL TO ORDER
The Special Meeting of Monday, August 4, 2008 of the City Commission was called to
Order by Mayor John F. Bush at 5:30 p.m. in the Commission Chambers of the
Municipal Building (City Hall, 1126 East State Road 434, Winter Springs, Florida
32708).
Roll Call:
Mayor John F. Bush, present
Deputy Mayor Donald A. Gilmore, present
Commissioner Robert S. Miller, present
Commissioner Rick Brown, present
Commissioner Sally McGinnis, present
Commissioner Joanne M. Krebs, present
City Manager Ronald W. McLemore, present
City Attorney Anthony A. Garganese, present
A moment of silence was followed by the Pledge of Allegiance.
Mayor Bush opened "Public Input".
No one spoke at this time.
Mayor Bush closed "Public Input ".
REGULAR AGENDA
REGULAR
600. Office Of The City Manager
Requesting That The City Commission Approve Resolution Number 2008-33,
Computing The Proposed Operating And Voted Debt Service Millage Rates For
Fiscal Year 2008-2009, Establishing The Rolled-Back Rate, And Setting The Date,
Time And Place Of A Public Hearing To Consider The Proposed Millage Rate And
Tentative Budget For Fiscal Year 2008-2009.
Mr. Kevin Smith, Director, General Services Department addressed the City Commission
regarding this Agenda Item.
CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA
MINUTES
CITY COMMISSION
SPECIAL MEETING -AUGUST 4, 2008
PAGE 2 OF 6
Brief discussion.
"I WILL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ACCEPT THE CITY MANAGER'S
RECOMMENDATIONS AND SET THE MILEAGE AT 3.1438 WHICH
INCLUDES THE .1100 -VOTED DEBT." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER
MILLER. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. DISCUSSION.
MR. SMITH ASKED, "IF I COULD ALSO REQUEST THAT YOU RECOGNIZE
THE ROLLED-BACK RATE AT 3.6512 MILS AND SET THE FIRST PUBLIC
HEARING AT SEPTEMBER THE 8TH, 2008 AT 5:15 [P.M.] AT CITY HALL, IF
THAT'D BE YOUR PLEASURE."
COMMISSIONER MILLER ADDED, "I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THAT
ENTERED INTO THE RECORD AS PART OF THE MOTION, IF NO ONE HAS
ANY OBJECTION." COMMISSIONER McGINNIS STATED, "NO
OBJECTION."
MAYOR BUSH REITERATED, "SO, THE MOTION NOW INCLUDES THE
ROLLED-BACK RATE 3.6512 AND THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING ON
SEPTEMBER THE 8TH [2008], 5:15 [P.M.]."
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
REGULAR
601. Office Of The City Manager
Requesting Commission To Consider Advisory Recommendations From The Board
Of Trustees On Pension Matters Related To The Consolidation Of Winter Springs
Fire And Emergency Medical Service With Seminole County.
Mr. Smith introduced this Agenda Item and presented several issues for consideration.
Mr. Jeff McCall, Winter Springs Professional Firefighters: commented on requested
negotiations; requests that Firefighters had made; years of Service; Consolidation; and
the four hundred thirty thousand dollars ($430,000.00) amount that was referenced.
CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA
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CITY COMMISSION
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PAGE 3 OF 6
City Manager Ronald W. McLemore stated, "These issues about injunctions; we have
followed the law specifically with continuous guidance from our Attorneys."
Discussion.
Mr. Michael S. Blake, 711 Canadice Lane, Winter Springs, Florida: addressed the City
Commission and noted that he was speaking as a citizen and not as a Member of the
Board of Trustees.
Much discussion.
Mr. Brad Curl, Winter Springs Professional Firefighters: commented on the four
hundred thirty thousand dollars ($430,000.00) amount.
Mr. Blake referenced that this is an actuarial analysis and stated, "Actual people's time of
service, wage earnings, benefit amount, and their date of birth -their age is utilized in the
calculation."
Tape 1/Side B
Note: Due to technical difficulties, the audio on this side begins ha~vay through this audiotape.
Mr. Curl further addressed the City Commission and asked that the City Commission
take care of the "gap" Firefighters.
"I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE BOARD
OF TRUSTEES REGARDING THE CONSOLIDATION OF RELATED PENSION
MATTERS IN ITEM `601'." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MILLER. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: NAY
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: NAY
MOTION CARRIED.
REGULAR
602. Office Of The City Manager
Requesting The City Commission To Consider Adoption Of The Rotary Club Of
Winter Springs' Recommended Operating Policy For The Veterans Memorial.
Manager McLemore addressed the City Commission regarding this Agenda Item.
CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA
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CITY COMMISSION
SPECIAL MEETING -AUGUST 4, 2008
PAGE 4 OF 6
With discussion, Commissioner Sally McGinnis noted, "If somebody wanted to send
money and have their parent memorialized who had never lived in the City, that doesn't
bother me."
Manager McLemore then said to the City Commission "If someone that lived in Oviedo,
they had no connection to Winter Springs and they wanted their father's name put on the
Winter Springs Veterans Memorial, is that okay?" Commissioner Robert S. Miller
stated, "Yes." Commissioner Joanne M. Krebs remarked, "Yes." Commissioner
McGinnis added, "That is okay with me." Deputy Mayor Donald A. Gilmore noted, "I
have no problem with that personally."
Mayor Bush asked how Veterans status would be verified? Manager McLemore
responded, "Our intent is to verify them all through -various Departments."
Continuing the discussion, Mayor Bush noted, "`Two members' - `The City of Winter
Springs and the Rotary Club shall each designate two members'...." Mayor Bush added,
"Means only -two (2) Commissioners can appoint somebody." Manager McLemore
suggested, "Maybe you all need to nominate..."
"I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE ITEM `602'..."
MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER
BROWN. DISCUSSION.
MAYOR BUSH ASKED, "...AND APPROVING -WHAT THEY CALL THE
CHARTER, AS WELL?" DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE ADDED, "AND
APPROVING THE CHARTER."
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Discussion continued regarding when the Veterans Memorial would be ready. Manager
McLemore explained, "We talked about it -being dedicated on Veteran's Day -which is
November the 11 `h, I believe. We also talked about -the fact that before the final touches
go on that we probably would have something built around it so that we could have an
unveiling on Veteran's Day. So that is the intent - to have an unveiling and Dedication
on Veteran's Day."
Deputy Mayor Gilmore hoped it would be near complete when the Arts Festival begins.
Commissioner Rick Brown suggested securing the construction site before the Arts
Festival starts. Manager McLemore replied, "Okay."
CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA
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CITY COMMISSION
SPECIAL MEETING -AUGUST 4, 2008
PAGE 5 OF 6
Commissioner Sally McGinnis recommended that the "reservation" form for the
Veteran's Memorial be placed in all future Newsletters. Manager McLemore suggested,
"We do an insert once a year, or something like that?" Commissioner McGinnis agreed
and then suggested that `reservation' forms also be placed in the lobby and at the VFW
(Veterans of Foreign Wars). Manager McLemore said, "Sure."
Regarding transportation being cut for citizens who work for the Seminole Work
Opportunity Program (SWOP), Mayor Bush stated, "I would like to see the Commission
encourage the School Board to find a way to fund the transportation." Mayor Bush
added, "What I am asking the Commission is - a Resolution in support of the School
Board reevaluating this."
"SO MOVED." MAYOR BUSH STATED, "MOTION BY COMMISSIONER
BROWN. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER GILMORE - TO CONSTRUCT A
RESOLUTION ENCOURAGING THE SCHOOL BOARD TO CONTINUE TO
FUND THE TRANSPORTATION OF THE SWOP [SEMINOLE WORK
OPPORTUNITY PROGRAM] PEOPLE." DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
In other City business, Manager McLemore mentioned that fire insurance costs would
possibly be reevaluated and that citizens of the Ranchlands might be affected with higher
rates due to no fire hydrants in their area; and that in the future, there might be a renewed
interest in the City extending water to that area. Manager McLemore added, "Maybe I
could just put out to you a Memorandum showing you what it would cost on an average -
basis."
Regarding the Scottish Highland Games Event set for January 2009, Manager McLemore
said to the City Commission, "On the table in discussion was their interest in having a
similar partnership like they had last year where the Chamber and the City and they put
up twelve thousand dollars ($12,000.00) each to fund that -Saturday night Event in the
Town Center. So, I need some thought from you as to how to go forward with this."
Brief discussion.
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Continuing, Manager McLemore suggested, "I can put this on the Agenda for the next
Meeting, if you'd like, for further discussion." Commissioner Brown remarked, "Yes,
put it on the Agenda." Commissioner Krebs added, "Yes, Agenda it." No objections
were noted. Mayor Bush said, "I agree. I think the Consensus is to put it on the
Agenda."
Further discussion.
ADJOURNMENT
Mayor Bush adjourned the Special Meeting at 6:26 p.m.
RESPECTFULLYSUBMITTED BY
ANDREA LORENZO-L DACES, CMC CITY CLERK AND
D NIELLE HARKER
DEPUTY CITY CLERK
APPROVED:
.~
HN F. BUSH
MAYOR
NOTE: These Minutes were approved at the August 25, 2008 Regular City Commission Meeting.
CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA
MINUTES
CITY COMMISSION
SPECIAL MEETING
AUGUST 4, 2008
CALL TO ORDER
The Special Meeting of Monday, August 4, 2008 of the City Commission was called to
Order by Mayor John F. Bush at 5:30 p.m. in the Commission Chambers of the
Municipal Building (City Hall, 1126 East State Road 434, Winter Springs, Florida
32708).
Roll Call:
Mayor John F. Bush, present
Deputy Mayor Donald A. Gilmore, present
Commissioner Robert S. Miller, present
Commissioner Rick Brown, present
Commissioner Sally McGinnis, present
Commissioner Joanne M. Krebs, present
City Manager Ronald W. McLemore, present
City Attorney Anthony A. Garganese, present
A moment of silence was followed by the Pledge of Allegiance.
Mayor Bush opened "Public Input".
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No one spoke at this time.
Mayor Bush closed "Public Input ".
REGULAR AGENDA
REGULAR
600. Office Of The City Manager
Requesting That The City Commission Approve Resolution Number 2008 -33,
Computing The Proposed Operating And Voted Debt Service Millage Rates For
Fiscal Year 2008 -2009, Establishing The Rolled -Back Rate, And Setting The Date,
Time And Place Of A Public Hearing To Consider The Proposed Millage Rate And
Tentative Budget For Fiscal Year 2008 -2009.
Mr. Kevin Smith, Director, General Services Department addressed the City Commission
regarding this Agenda Item.
CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA
MINUTES
CITY COMMISSION
SPECIAL MEETING - AUGUST 4, 2008
PAGE 2 OF 6
Brief discussion.
"I WILL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ACCEPT THE CITY MANAGER'S
RECOMMENDATIONS AND SET THE MILLAGE AT 3.1438 WHICH
INCLUDES THE .1100 — VOTED DEBT." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER
MILLER. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. DISCUSSION.
MR. SMITH ASKED, "IF I COULD ALSO REQUEST THAT YOU RECOGNIZE
THE ROLLED -BACK RATE AT 3.6512 MILS AND SET THE FIRST PUBLIC
HEARING AT SEPTEMBER THE 8 2008 AT 5:15 [P.M.] AT CITY HALL, IF
THAT'D BE YOUR PLEASURE."
COMMISSIONER MILLER ADDED, "I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THAT
ENTERED INTO THE RECORD AS PART OF THE MOTION, IF NO ONE HAS
ANY OBJECTION." COMMISSIONER McGINNIS STATED, "NO
OBJECTION."
MAYOR BUSH REITERATED, "SO, THE MOTION NOW INCLUDES THE
ROLLED -BACK RATE 3.6512 AND THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING ON
SEPTEMBER THE 8 [2008], 5:15 [P.M.]."
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
REGULAR
601. Office Of The City Manager
Requesting Commission To Consider Advisory Recommendations From The Board
Of Trustees On Pension Matters Related To The Consolidation Of Winter Springs
Fire And Emergency Medical Service With Seminole County.
Mr. Smith introduced this Agenda Item and presented several issues for consideration.
Mr. Jeff McCall, Winter Springs Professional Firefighters: commented on requested
negotiations; requests that Firefighters had made; years of Service; Consolidation; and
the four hundred thirty thousand dollars ($430,000.00) amount that was referenced.
• CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA
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CITY COMMISSION
SPECIAL MEETING — AUGUST 4, 2008
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City Manager Ronald W. McLemore stated, "These issues about injunctions; we have
followed the law specifically with continuous guidance from our Attorneys."
Discussion.
Mr. Michael S. Blake, 711 Canadice Lane, Winter Springs, Florida: addressed the City
Commission and noted that he was speaking as a citizen and not as a Member of the
Board of Trustees.
Much discussion.
Mr. Brad Curl, Winter Springs Professional Firefighters: commented on the four
hundred thirty thousand dollars ($430,000.00) amount.
Mr. Blake referenced that this is an actuarial analysis and stated, "Actual people's time of
service, wage earnings, benefit amount, and their date of birth — their age is utilized in the
calculation."
Tape 1 /Side B
Note: Due to technical difficulties, the audio on this side begins halfway through this audiotape.
Mr. Curl further addressed the City Commission and asked that the City Commission
take care of the "gap" Firefighters.
"I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE BOARD
OF TRUSTEES REGARDING THE CONSOLIDATION OF RELATED PENSION
MATTERS IN ITEM `601'." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MILLER. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: NAY
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: NAY
MOTION CARRIED.
REGULAR
602. Office Of The City Manager
Requesting The City Commission To Consider Adoption Of The Rotary Club Of
Winter Springs' Recommended Operating Policy For The Veterans Memorial.
Manager McLemore addressed the City Commission regarding this Agenda Item.
CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA
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CITY COMMISSION
SPECIAL MEETING - AUGUST 4, 2008
PAGE 4 OF 6
With discussion, Commissioner Sally McGinnis noted, "If somebody wanted to send
money and have their parent memorialized who had never lived in the City, that doesn't
bother me."
Manager McLemore then said to the City Commission "If someone that lived in Oviedo,
they had no connection to Winter Springs and they wanted their father's name put on the
Winter Springs Veterans Memorial, is that okay ?" Commissioner Robert S. Miller
stated, "Yes." Commissioner Joanne M. Krebs remarked, "Yes." Commissioner
McGinnis added, "That is okay with me." Deputy Mayor Donald A. Gilmore noted, "I
have no problem with that personally."
Mayor Bush asked how Veterans status would be verified? Manager McLemore
responded, "Our intent is to verify them all through — various Departments."
Continuing the discussion, Mayor Bush noted, 'Two members' — `The City of Winter
Springs and the Rotary Club shall each designate two members'...." Mayor Bush added,
"Means only - two (2) Commissioners can appoint somebody." Manager McLemore
suggested, "Maybe you all need to nominate..."
"I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE ITEM `602'..."
MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER
BROWN. DISCUSSION.
MAYOR BUSH ASKED, "...AND APPROVING - WHAT THEY CALL THE
CHARTER, AS WELL ?" DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE ADDED, "AND
APPROVING THE CHARTER."
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Discussion continued regarding when the Veterans Memorial would be ready. Manager
McLemore explained, "We talked about it - being dedicated on Veteran's Day — which is
November the 11 `�', I believe. We also talked about — the fact that before the final touches
go on that we probably would have something built around it so that we could have an
unveiling on Veteran's Day. So that is the intent — to have an unveiling and Dedication
on Veteran's Day."
Deputy Mayor Gilmore hoped it would be near complete when the Arts Festival begins.
Commissioner Rick Brown suggested securing the construction site before the Arts
Festival starts. Manager McLemore replied, "Okay."
CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA
MINUTES
CITY COMMISSION
SPECIAL MEETING - AUGUST 4, 2008
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Commissioner Sally McGinnis recommended that the "reservation" form for the
Veteran's Memorial be placed in all future Newsletters. Manager McLemore suggested,
"We do an insert once a year, or something like that ?" Commissioner McGinnis agreed
and then suggested that `reservation' forms also be placed in the lobby and at the VFW
(Veterans of Foreign Wars). Manager McLemore said, "Sure."
Regarding transportation being cut for citizens who work for the Seminole Work
Opportunity Program (SWOP), Mayor Bush stated, "I would like to see the Commission
encourage the School Board to find a way to fund the transportation." Mayor Bush
added, "What I am asking the Commission is - a Resolution in support of the School
Board reevaluating this."
"SO MOVED." MAYOR BUSH STATED, "MOTION BY COMMISSIONER
BROWN. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER GILMORE - TO CONSTRUCT A
RESOLUTION ENCOURAGING THE SCHOOL BOARD TO CONTINUE TO
FUND THE TRANSPORTATION OF THE SWOP [SEMINOLE WORK
OPPORTUNITY PROGRAM] PEOPLE." DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
In other City business, Manager McLemore mentioned that fire insurance costs would
possibly be reevaluated and that citizens of the Ranchlands might be affected with higher
rates due to no fire hydrants in their area; and that in the future, there might be a renewed
interest in the City extending water to that area. Manager McLemore added, "Maybe I
could just put out to you a Memorandum showing you what it would cost on an average —
basis."
Regarding the Scottish Highland Games Event set for January 2009, Manager McLemore
said to the City Commission, "On the table in discussion was their interest in having a
similar partnership like they had last year where the Chamber and the City and they put
up twelve thousand dollars ($12,000.00) each to fund that — Saturday night Event in the
Town Center. So, I need some thought from you as to how to go forward with this."
Brief discussion.
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Continuing, Manager McLemore suggested, "I can put this on the Agenda for the next
Meeting, if you'd like, for further discussion." Commissioner Brown remarked, "Yes,
put it on the Agenda." Commissioner Krebs added, "Yes, Agenda it." No objections
were noted. Mayor Bush said, "I agree. I think the Consensus is to put it on the
Agenda."
Further discussion.
ADJOURNMENT
Mayor Bush adjourned the Special Meeting at 6:26 p.m.
RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED BY
ANDREA LORENZO -L UACES, CMC CITY CLERK AND
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D NIELLE HARKER
DEPUTY CITY CLERK
APPROVED:
1 U HN F. BUSH
MAYOR
NOTE: These Minutes were approved at the August 25, 2008 Regular City Commission Meeting.