HomeMy WebLinkAbout2010 01 20 Consent Agenda Item 200 Requesting Approval of TLBD Regular Meeting Minutes October 20, 2009 CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA
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DISTRICT ADVISORY COMMITTEE
REGULAR MEETING
OCTOBER 21, 2009
CALL TO ORDER
The Tuscawilla Lighting and Beautification District Advisory Committee Regular
Meeting of Wednesday, October 21, 2009 was called to Order by Vice Chairperson Mary
Brook at 7:00 p.m. in the Commission Chambers of the Municipal Building (City Hall,
1126 East State Road 434, Winter Springs, Florida 32708).
Roll Call:
Vice Chairperson Mary Brook, present
Committee Member Helen Baker, present
Committee Member Luci Coker, present
Committee Member Donald Gilmore, present
Committee Member Lidya Gongage, present
A moment of silence was followed by the Pledge of Allegiance.
AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING REGULAR AGENDA ITEM WAS
DISCUSSED NEXT, FOLLOWED BY THE REST OF THE AGENDA AS
DOCUMENTED.
REGULAR AGENDA
REGULAR
603. Community Development Department Urban Beautification Services
Division
Update On The Irrigation Retro -Fit Project Bids.
Mr. Steven Richart, Urban Beautification Services Division Manager, Community
Development Department presented this Agenda Item and stated that this item has been
brought back to this Meeting to hopefully finalize a decision. Mr. Richart noted that
there are three (3) Contractors in the audience and that each Contractor will be given an
opportunity to speak about their company and what they can do for the Project; and that a
question and answer session would also be held.
Mr. Richie Hage, Bruce Hage Irrigation, 425 Gaston Foster Road, Orlando, Florida:
spoke about his company; and that his business is twenty (20) minutes away and that he
lives about ten (10) minutes away from the Project site.
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Mr. Hage noted, Our idea with your job is to limit the splices; so when we have splices ;'1"
at the decoders; ground all the decoders; if you get a direct hit of lightning, well it is
Florida and you get a direct hit with lightning, but if it is anything minimal we would like
to be able to try and take care of that. We would like to use the polyethylene jacketed
wire and on the external of the wire have the Polyvinyl Chloride (PVC) jacket, so that it
has two (2) jackets of protection as far as the wire goes." Continuing, Mr. Hage stated,
"We like to give you the best workmanship that we can possibly do."
Mr. Richart asked of Mr. Hage, "What is your timeline for this Project? How long do
you think it will take you Mr. Hage replied, "Six (6) to eight (8) weeks, depending on
how tough the digging is."
Further discussion.
Continuing, Mr. Richart inquired, "How would you handle your warranty there is a one
(1) year warranty on this job; how would you handle that Mr. Hage responded, "If you
have any problems you call me and I will take care of it." Mr. Richart asked, "What
would your response time be Mr. Hage stated, "Same day, next day."
Advisory Committee Member Donald Gilmore posed the question, "Is this a design build
or are you working off a design handed to you Mr. Hage replied, "There was an as-
built drawing given out with the bid that had the original system that was put with all the
battery operated controllers, so we went off of that." Mr. Richart stated, "So, he will
have to hire an Architect based on the Specs and it is a Design Build with heavy input
from us as to what we want." Mr. Hage commented, "Yes, and we would come up with
a Plan and we try to address that and get it to where you like it."
Mr. Joel Newburg, Newberg Irrigation, 10501 Rocket Court, Orlando, Florida:
addressed the Committee, "We have been in business approximately thirty -five (35) plus
years, and we have an office in St. Petersburg and in Orlando. This job is really high
profile with all the traffic that is going to be around that area. Basically the way that we
planned to do it, was going to be bore across the roads and not run any wire in the
medians. One of the things that we are going to do is to run all the wire in conduit, not
just the wire that goes underneath the driveways."
Mr. Newburg added, "One of the main issues that we have out there; the wire that is out
there, the reason that it is inoperative is that it has been cut so many times with all the
construction and changes over the years that have gone on out there. If you look at our
qualifications, I have probably done twenty (20) systems like this; worked with other
people's decoder systems as well as Hunter [Industries Incorporated] and we are Certified
with all of them. And again, the cleanliness on the job and the low profile as far as
whatever we do in one (1) day will be finished that day cleaned up and done. As far as
warranty is concerned, basically it is warranted for one (1) year."
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Mr. Newburg continued, "Lightning is a big issue with this type of a system; if you take a
direct hit by lightning, typically that is not going to be under warranty. But if you take a "CO
direct hit, it will take out a decoder or a solenoid which would not be under warranty."
Mr. Richart remarked, "Tell me a little bit about your pricing." Mr. Newburg stated,
"The boring to me was the highest priced item which we sub contract out to a Minority
Company and noted it is probably forty -five percent (45 of the job price."
Mr. Richart asked, "And then your timelines on the Project Mr. Newburg replied,
"Four (4) to six (6) weeks."
Advisory Committee Member Luci Coker inquired, "Of the twenty (20) systems that you
have done, how many have ever been hit by lightning Mr. Newburg noted, "All of
them." Committee Member Coker then asked, "And they are not under warranty Mr.
Newburg stated, "Not for a direct hit lightning." Committee Member Coker continued,
"And what is the cost to repair approximately Mr. Newburg responded, "Typically it is
going to be a decoder or solenoid that is going to go out. One of the things that you have
to have knowledge of is how to diagnose the problem and that probably takes longer than
replacing the decoder or replacing the solenoid. I would say around three (3) to five (5)
hundred ($300.00 to $500.00) dollars. You have a lot of trees around there that tend to
attract lightning."
Discussion ensued regarding the surge protection and Mr. Newburg said that every five
hundred to seven hundred feet is typical. Mr. Richart noted that the City exceeded
Hunter's (Industries Incorporated) request as far as their specifications on it.
Discussion continued about Avalanche Technology and the decoders and lightning
strikes.
Mr. Jason Cally, LSP Nursery, Inc., 521 Thor Drive, Palm Bay, Florida: spoke about
having a warranty for a year. Continuing, Mr. Cally noted, "That if something happens
that day, we will be here either if it is early in the morning the same day or if it is in the
afternoon we will be here first thing in the morning. We are based out of Palm Bay
[Florida] it takes me an hour to get here." Mr. Cally explained, "We took our boring
cost and we did not put any money on top of our boring cost." Mr. Cally commented that
he has been doing this business for fifteen (15) years and gave a timeline of four (4) to
eight (8) weeks.
Advisory Committee Member Lidya Gongage noted, "This is a Subdivision with a lot of
old trees; a lot of huge roots. My question was, `Have you ever done a job that involves
that kind of complications? Because a new Subdivision is easier'." Mr. Cally responded,
"Yes."
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With further discussion, Mr. Richart excused the Contractors from the Meeting and they
departed at approximately 7:27 p.m.
Mr. Richart commented, "We have really three (3) options tonight and that is move
forward with this, choose a Vendor; and the Board would Vote to recommend it to the
City Commission. We can modify the scope of the Project if we are not happy with the
scope, or we can decide to delay the Project either way, there are three (3) options. L
Discussion of the submitted Bid packages continued.
"I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE GO WITH THE CHEAPEST BIDDER."
MOTION BY ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEMBER GILMORE.
WITH FURTHER COMMENTS, MR. RICHART NOTED THAT EACH OF THE
CONTRACTORS ARE BONDED AND INSURED. MR. RICHART FURTHER
COMMENTED THAT WE HAVE BID SECURITY ON THIS PROJECT.
MR. RICHART STATED, "WE HAVE THE CHECK SO WE HOLD THAT AND
IT IS A PERCENTAGE OF THE JOB IT IS A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF
MONEY."
ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEMBER GILMORE REITERATED HIS MOTION
AS, "I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE, IF ALL THINGS BEING THE SAME AND
STEVE RICHART] IS SATISFIED THAT THE LOW BIDDER MEETS ALL
THE QUALIFICATIONS, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE GO WITH THE LOW
BIDDER."
SECONDED BY ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEMBER BAKER. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
VICE CHAIRPERSON BROOK: AYE
COMMITTEE MEMBER BAKER: AYE
COMMITTEE MEMBER COKER: AYE
COMMITTEE MEMBER GILMORE: AYE
COMMITTEE MEMBER GONGAGE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Mr. Richart stated, "What I will do is immediately finish any due diligence left to get this
rolling, I will prepare an Agenda Item for the City Commission stating your Vote." Vice
Chairperson Brook inquired, "Do you use Release of Lien when you do a job like this
Mr. Richart replied, "We have, it just depends on what type of work is; for this one we
will have a Notice of Commencement filed with the County. We will also have a list of
their people that they go and buy the material from."
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Discussion ensued on the possible available funds for additional landscaping.
•3 AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING REGULAR AGENDA ITEM
WAS DISCUSSED NEXT, AND LATER IN THE MEETING, AS SHOWN ON
PAGE 8 OF THESE MINUTES. a
REGULAR AGENDA
REGULAR
602. Community Development Department Urban Beautification Services
Division
Update On The Landscaping Replacement Project.
Discussion ensued regarding the Landscaping Replacement Project.
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INFORMATIONAL AGENDA
INFORMATIONAL
100. Not Used.
CONSENT AGENDA
CONSENT
200. Office Of The City Clerk
Requests That The Tuscawilla Lighting And Beautification District Advisory
Committee Review This Agenda Item And Re- Approve The June 3, 2009 Special
Meeting Minutes.
"I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM THE JUNE 3RD
[2009] MEETING." MOTION BY ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEMBER COKER.
SECONDED BY ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEMBER GILMORE.
DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMITTEE MEMBER BAKER: AYE
COMMITTEE MEMBER COKER: AYE
COMMITTEE MEMBER GILMORE: AYE
COMMITTEE MEMBER GONGAGE: AYE
VICE CHAIRPERSON BROOK: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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CONSENT
201. Office Of The City Clerk
Approval Of The July 15, 2009 Regular Meeting Minutes.
"I MOVE FOR APPROVAL." [JULY 15, 2009 MINUTES] MOTION BY
ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEMBER GILMORE. SECONDED BY ADVISORY
COMMITTEE MEMBER COKER. DISCUSSION.
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VOTE: rien
COMMITTEE MEMBER COKER: AYE
COMMITTEE MEMBER GILMORE: AYE
COMMITTEE MEMBER GONGAGE: AYE
VICE CHAIRPERSON BROOK: AYE
COMMITTEE MEMBER BAKER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
CONSENT
202. Office Of The City Clerk
Approval Of The September 16, 2009 Special Meeting Minutes.
"I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM SEPTEMBER 16
[2009]." MOTION BY ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEMBER COKER.
SECONDED BY ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEMBER GILMORE.
DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMITTEE MEMBER GILMORE: AYE
COMMITTEE MEMBER GONGAGE: AYE
VICE CHAIRPERSON BROOK: AYE
COMMITTEE MEMBER BAKER: AYE
COMMITTEE MEMBER COKER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
AWARDS AND PRESENTATIONS
AWARDS AND PRESENTATIONS
300. Not Used.
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400. REPORTS
No Reports were given.
PUBLIC INPUT
No one spoke.
PUBLIC HEARINGS AGENDA
PUBLIC HEARINGS
500. Not Used.
REGULAR AGENDA
REGULAR
600. Community Development Department Urban Beautification Services
Division
Review Of Budget.
Mr. Richart presented this Agenda Item and reviewed the Budget with the Committee
Members.
Discussion.
REGULAR
601. Community Development Department Urban Beautification Services
Division
Review Of Maintenance Items And Progress Report.
This Agenda Item was introduced by Mr. Richart who reported that there has been some
vandalism in several areas. Then Mr. Richart commented that there has been an upgrade
to the high voltage lights and that the fountains have been stabilized.
With further discussion, Mr. Richart noted that the Annuals have been scheduled to be
replaced and that they are looking at doing some Poinsettias for the Holidays.
Continuing, Mr. Richart commented that they have been dealing with algae, the pumps
and electric heater.
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AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING REGULAR AGENDA ITEM
WAS DISCUSSED AGAIN, IN ADDITION TO WHAT WAS PREVIOUSLY
NOTED ON PAGE 5 OF THESE MINUTES; FOLLOWED BY THE
REMAINING DISCUSSION AS NOTED.
REGULAR AGENDA
REGULAR
602. Community Development Department Urban Beautification Services
Division
Update On The Landscaping Replacement Project.
Mr. Richart presented this Agenda Item and discussion ensued regarding drought tolerant
plants; native plants and soil issues; and adapting the right plants to the right soil.
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604. Community Development Department Urban Beautification Services
Division
Presentation Of The Restoration Of The Main Entry Fountain Gardens.
Vice Chairperson Brook gave a PowerPoint presentation regarding the plantings around
the main entry fountain gardens. The Committee Members commented favorably on
Vice Chairperson Brook's presentation.
Discussion ensued regarding the Knockout Roses and it was noted by Vice Chairperson
Brook, "They are not as hearty as we thought." Mr. Richart commented, "The problem
is in the watering; the water type, the Reclaimed Water they really do not like it." Mr.
Richart added, "They are not doing well for us unless we pay to have them cared for, so I
would not recommend us doing that anymore."
ADJOURNMENT
Vice Chairperson Brook adjourned the Regular Meeting at 8:29 p.m.
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RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED:
CAROL A. LALLATHIN
ASSISTANT TO THE CITY CLERK itnri
NOTE: These Minutes were approved at the 2010 Tuscawilla Lighting and Beautification District
Advisory Committee Regular Meeting.