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WINTER SPRINGS AD HOC CHARTER REVIEW COMMITTEE
MEETING
APRIL 1, 2010
I. CALL TO ORDER
The Meeting of Thursday, April 1, 2010 of the Winter Springs Ad Hoc Charter Review CL.
Committee was called to Order at 7:00 p.m. by Chairperson Charles Lacey in the
Commission Chambers of the Municipal Building (City Hall, 1126 East State Road 434,
Winter Springs, Florida 32708).
Roll Call:
Chairperson Charles Lacey, present
Vice Chairperson Tom Freeman, present
Committee Member George Acha, present
Committee Member Pamela Carroll, present
Committee Member Steve Glazier, present
Committee Member Beth King, present
Committee Member George Markward, present
Committee Member Bill Poe, present
Committee Member John Ryser, present
Committee Member Helga Schwarz, present
Committee Member Sandy Traeger, present
After a moment of silence, Boy Scout Charles Poe, Troop #196 led the Pledge of
Allegiance.
II. CONSENT AGENDA
CONSENT
Office Of The City Clerk
Requesting Approval Of The March 18, 2010 Meeting Minutes.
Chairperson Lacey commented, "The Consent Agenda which consists of approving the
March 18, (2010) Minutes."
"SO MOVED." MOTION BY COMMITTEE MEMBER SCHWARZ.
SECONDED BY COMMITTEE MEMBER POE. DISCUSSION.
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VOTE:
COMMITTEE MEMBER ACHA: AYE
COMMITTEE MEMBER KING: AYE PaQ
COMMITTEE MEMBER MARKWARD: AYE
COMMITTEE MEMBER SCHWARZ: AYE
COMMITTEE MEMBER TRAEGER: AYE
COMMITTEE MEMBER CARROLL: AYE i•Z•4
CHAIRPERSON LACEY: AYE
COMMITTEE MEMBER POE: AYE --.
COMMITTEE MEMBER GLAZIER: AYE
VICE CHAIRPERSON FREEMAN: AYE
COMMITTEE MEMBER RYSER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
III. GENERAL PUBLIC INPUT
Mr. Joel Busher, 413 Holly Court, Winter Springs, Florida: addressed the Committee and
read from a letter he sent in regarding suggested Preamble wording to possibly be added
to our City's Charter.
Mayor John F. Bush, 21 Tarpon Circle, Winter Springs, Florida: thanked the Committee
for their efforts reviewing the City's Charter, and commented on Districts; the expense to
run for Elected Office; Districts, the role of the Mayor and Voting situations; and the
relationship between the City Commission and their City Manager.
IV. OLD BUSINESS
Any Discussion Items Suggested By The Winter Springs Ad Hoc Charter Review
Committee.
Committee Member Helga Schwarz referred to Page 12 of ARTICLES VII. -VIII.
(Section 4.12. Independent audits.) and asked, "Why is this particular section not part of
the financial reporting section ?"
City Attorney Anthony A. Garganese explained, "It is an action item of the Commission
and it falls under the Commission section of the Charter, but it is a financial issue as well,
which could fall under `FINANCIAL (PROCEDURE)'."
Next, Chairperson Lacey asked Committee Member Schwarz, "Would you be proposing
that we move Section 4.12. in its entirety to make it (Section) 7.08. ?"
"SO MOVED." MOTION BY COMMITTEE MEMBER SCHWARZ.
SECONDED BY COMMITTEE MEMBER RYSER. DISCUSSION.
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CHAIRPERSON LACEY STATED, "MOTION TO TAKE SECTION 4.12. — TO
(SECTION) 7.08. AND PUT IT IN SEQUENCE AFTER (SECTION) 7.07." r
VOTE:
COMMITTEE MEMBER KING: AYE
COMMITTEE MEMBER MARKWARD: AYE Q.i
COMMITTEE MEMBER SCHWARZ: AYE emetra
COMMITTEE MEMBER TRAEGER: AYE
COMMITTEE MEMBER CARROLL: AYE
CHAIRPERSON LACEY: AYE
COMMITTEE MEMBER POE: AYE
COMMITTEE MEMBER GLAZIER: AYE
VICE CHAIRPERSON FREEMAN: NAY
COMMITTEE MEMBER RYSER: AYE
COMMITTEE MEMBER ACHA: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
V. NEW BUSINESS
Review Of ARTICLES I. Through XIII., City Charter, And/Or Any Other
Discussion Items Suggested By The Winter Springs Ad Hoc Charter Review
Committee.
Next, discussion ensued on ARTICLE IX.
Committee Member Beth King remarked, "In the Model Charter, there is a Recall section
and the City of Winter Springs does not address that issue ?"
Attorney Garganese noted, "Recall in Florida specifically provided by Florida Statutes.
The whole process, the procedure, the manner in which it is done, the Judicial review,
Recall Petitions are all laid out in the Florida Statutes." Committee Member King then
asked, "Should there be any reference to it at all ?" Attorney Garganese answered, "It is
not necessary."
Discussion followed on Section 9.03. Petitions.; and ARTICLE X., Section 10.01.
General Authority.
Further discussion ensued on Section 7.03. Campaign Finance (b) and ARTICLE XII.
POWERS, Section 12.01. Powers generally. and ARTICLE III. POWERS OF THE
CITY, Section 3.01. Generally.
Discussion.
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"I MAKE THE MOTION THAT WE MERGE SECTION 12.01. AND SECTION
3.01. AND NOT REMOVING ANY LANGUAGE. JUST MERGE IT ALL
TOGETHER EXCEPT FOR STRIKING THE FIRST PART `AS PROVIDED IN r
ARTICLE VIII. SECTION 2 (b) OF THE STATE CONSTITUTION'. START
WITH, `THE CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS SHALL HAVE THE
GOVERNMENTAL, CORPORATE AND PROPRIETARY POWERS TO
ENABLE THE CITY TO CONDUCT MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENT, PERFORM Q.
MUNICIPAL FUNCTIONS AND RENDER MUNICIPAL SERVICES AND MAY
EXERCISE ANY POWER FOR MUNICIPAL PURPOSES EXCEPT WHEN
EXPRESSLY PROHIBITED BY LAW'." MOTION BY COMMITTEE MEMBER
SCHWARZ.
CHAIRPERSON LACEY CLARIFIED, "THE LANGUAGE THAT WE ARE
LOOKING AT ON PAGE 11, UNDER SECTION 12.01. (Powers generally.), YOU
WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT MOVED UP TO (SECTION) 3.01. AND DO YOU
WANT IT TO STILL STAY IN SECTION 12.(01.) REDUNDANT, OR DO YOU
WANT TO STRIKE SECTION 12.(01.) ?"
ATTORNEY GARGANESE COMMENTED, "SHE SAID MERGE IT."
DISCUSSION.
SECONDED BY COMMITTEE MEMBER RYSER. DISCUSSION.
CHAIRPERSON LACEY ASKED, "WOULD IT BE ACCEPTABLE TO THE
COMMITTEE TO AMEND THE MOTION TO GIVE THE INTENT TO CLEAN
UP THE CONFLICTING POWERS OF THE CITY IN ARTICLE XII. (POWERS)
AND ARTICLE III. (POWERS OF THE CITY) AND ASK THE CITY
ATTORNEY TO COME BACK WITH LANGUAGE IN THE REPORT ?"
COMMITTEE MEMBER SCHWARZ REPLIED, "THAT WAS MY INTENT."
FURTHERMORE, CHAIRPERSON LACEY THEN ASKED, "SO, WE ARE NOT
GIVING A SPECIFIC DIRECTION. IF THERE IS NO OBJECTION, THE
MOTION WILL STAND AMENDED TO SAY THAT WE ARE GOING TO
REFER TO THE CITY ATTORNEY THE ARTICLE XII. (POWERS) AND
ARTICLE III. (POWERS OF THE CITY) LANGUAGE AND ASK HIM TO
CLEAN UP THE REDUNDANCY AND ENSURE THAT WE HAVE LANGUAGE
EXPRESSLY DELEGATED OF THE POWERS OF THE CITY IN ONE (1)
PLACE."
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VOTE: carQ
COMMITTEE MEMBER MARKWARD: AYE
COMMITTEE MEMBER SCHWARZ: AYE
COMMITTEE MEMBER TRAEGER: AYE
COMMITTEE MEMBER CARROLL: NAY
CHAIRPERSON LACEY: AYE
COMMITTEE MEMBER POE: AYE
COMMITTEE MEMBER GLAZIER: AYE F---
VICE CHAIRPERSON FREEMAN: NAY
COMMITTEE MEMBER RYSER: AYE
COMMITTEE MEMBER ACHA: NAY
COMMITTEE MEMBER KING: NAY
MOTION CARRIED.
Discussion ensued on Section 7.03. Campaign Finance.
Attorney Garganese stated, "Campaign financing is thoroughly addressed in the (Florida)
Statutes. The monetary limitations that a person can contribute in a Municipal Election is
set forth in the Statutes not to exceed five hundred dollars ($500.00). The Candidates are
required to disclose all those contributions. The City now requires electronic disclosure
with the Supervisor of Elections, so all of that is on line."
Discussion.
Chairperson Lacey referenced "Terms" and stated, "Obviously, that language needs to be
cleaned up or taken out, but we can just ask Anthony (Garganese) to do that and present it
to us in the Draft Report."
Continuing, Chairperson Lacey stated, "We have essentially addressed all the major
issues that the Commission referred to us, that the Model Charter has referred to us, and I
believe ideas that the Committee has come up on its own with, which are the three (3)
areas." Chairperson Lacey added, "The next task is how do we come up with a `Report'
from here? I would propose as a starting point in beginning that process, now we have
expressed our wishes on the various areas, we turn it back to the Staff through Anthony
( Garganese) and Kimberly (Kopp) and ask them to take what we have done so far, put it
into a Draft Report that we would then review at our next Meeting."
Attorney Garganese distributed a "Briefing Memorandum" entitled, "One -Year
Residency Requirement for Candidates to Municipal Offices ".
Next, Attorney Garganese stated, "There was discussion at the Committee level whether
or not the one (1) year residency requirement in (Section) 2 -87. of the City Code should
be stated verbatim in the City Charter - and if that is the desire of the Committee, my
view is you can make that recommendation, because I believe the one (1) year residency
requirement is lawful in Florida." Chairperson Lacey added, "I would endorse putting
that language into the Charter." Discussion.
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Discussion followed regarding the timeframe of the residency requirements. Attorney
Garganese recommended, "I would not go any more than one (1) year." p
Chairperson Lacey stated, "As I understand it, we agreed that we want to move the
language into the Charter. It is possible, we can change it from one (1) year to six (6)
months if that is the will of the Committee ?" actin
"I MAKE THE MOTION TO MOVE THAT LANGUAGE INTO THE CHARTER
BUT I WOULD NOT MAKE THE MOTION TO REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF
TIME. I WOULD LEAVE IT AT ONE (1) YEAR. MOVE TO PUT THAT
LANGUAGE, ONE (1) YEAR RESIDENCY REQUIREMENT INTO THE
CHARTER." MOTION BY COMMITTEE MEMBER POE. SECONDED BY
COMMITTEE MEMBER SCHWARZ. DISCUSSION.
CHAIRPERSON LACEY STATED, "THE ONE (1) YEAR RESIDENCY
REQUIREMENT REMAIN BUT BE PLACED IN THE CHARTER DIRECTLY."
VOTE:
COMMITTEE MEMBER TRAEGER: AYE
COMMITTEE MEMBER CARROLL: AYE
CHAIRPERSON LACEY: AYE
COMMITTEE MEMBER POE: AYE
COMMITTEE MEMBER GLAZIER: AYE
VICE CHAIRPERSON FREEMAN: NAY
COMMITTEE MEMBER RYSER: AYE
COMMITTEE MEMBER ACHA: AYE
COMMITTEE MEMBER KING: AYE
COMMITTEE MEMBER MARKWARD: AYE
COMMITTEE MEMBER SCHWARZ: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
"I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A FOLLOW -UP MOTION, THAT WE ASK THE
CITY ATTORNEY TO CLEAN UP SECTION 4.01. - (b) (Eligibility.) TO
REMOVE ALL THE REFERENCES ABOUT THE ORDINANCES ITSELF
WHEN HE BRINGS IN THE LANGUAGE FROM THE ORDINANCE."
MOTION BY COMMITTEE MEMBER SCHWARZ.
ATTORNEY GARGANESE STATED, "THERE ARE MORE ISSUES IN
(SECTION) 2 -87."
COMMITTEE MEMBER SCHWARZ ADDED, "IT WAS SENTENCE TWO (2)
AND THREE (3), I THINK THAT ADDRESSED THE RESIDENCY
REQUIREMENT OF THAT ORDINANCE."
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TO CLARIFY, ATTORNEY GARGANESE ASKED, "YOU MOTIONED TO
REMOVE THE REFERENCE (SECTION) 2 -87. FROM THE CHARTER OR..."
COMMITTEE MEMBER SCHWARZ STATED, "...IN SECTION (b) (Eligibility.)
THERE IS LANGUAGE IN THERE THAT IS GOING TO HAVE TO COME
OUT ONCE YOU MOVE THE ORDINANCE SENTENCES IN THERE. THE
MOTION WAS TO MOVE THE LANGUAGE OF THE ORDINANCE INTO
THAT SECTION." imimn
CHAIRPERSON LACEY ADDED, "THE MOTION IS TO CLEAN UP
LANGUAGE IN (SECTION) 4.01. (b) (Eligibility.) TO CONFORM WITH THE
MOTION THAT WAS JUST PREVIOUSLY PASSED ?"
SECONDED BY COMMITTEE MEMBER RYSER. DISCUSSION.
CHAIRPERSON LACEY INDICATED, "THE PROCESS WE ARE GOING TO
BE ENGAGED IN AND SUBJECTED TO THE WILL OF THE COMMITTEE, IS
THAT A LOT OF THIS NON - SPECIFIC LANGUAGE THAT WE ARE
REFERRING TO THE ATTORNEY, WILL COME BACK TO US IN A DRAFT
REPORT FOR US THEN TO LOOK AT IN DETAIL, AND APPROVE OR NOT
APPROVE."
VOTE:
COMMITTEE MEMBER CARROLL: NAY
CHAIRPERSON LACEY: AYE
COMMITTEE MEMBER POE: AYE
COMMITTEE MEMBER GLAZIER: AYE
VICE CHAIRPERSON FREEMAN: NAY
COMMITTEE MEMBER RYSER: AYE
COMMITTEE MEMBER ACHA: NAY
COMMITTEE MEMBER KING: NAY
COMMITTEE MEMBER MARKWARD: NAY
COMMITTEE MEMBER SCHWARZ: AYE
COMMITTEE MEMBER TRAEGER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Attorney Garganese distributed a "Briefing Memorandum" entitled, "Filling of Vacancies
— Section 4.08. (c), City Charter ".
Chairperson Lacey mentioned, "What I had in my notes is that we had asked you to look
at the Motion we had made to fill a vacancy within two (2) Regular Meeting times and
you were to look at what was a prudent number." Discussion ensued on the Options.
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Committee Member Steve Glazier stated, "I would be in favor of Option 1 — we ought to
t to avoid things that create Special Elections, they are costly and you tend to get real raQI
small turn outs."
Chairperson Lacey asked, "Was that a Motion ?"
"I SO MOVE." MOTION BY COMMITTEE MEMBER GLAZIER. SECONDED area
BY VICE CHAIRPERSON FREEMAN. DISCUSSION.
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CHAIRPERSON LACEY CLARIFIED THE MOTION AND STATED, "THE
MOTION IS THAT WE ACCEPT OPTION NUMBER 1 THAT DOES NOT
SPECIFY THE PROCESS BY WHICH AN OFFICE IS FILLED IF THE
COMMISSION DOES NOT ACT."
VOTE:
CHAIRPERSON LACEY: AYE
COMMITTEE MEMBER POE: AYE
COMMITTEE MEMBER GLAZIER: AYE
VICE CHAIRPERSON FREEMAN: AYE
COMMITTEE MEMBER RYSER: AYE
COMMITTEE MEMBER ACHA: AYE
COMMITTEE MEMBER KING: AYE
COMMITTEE MEMBER MARKWARD: AYE
COMMITTEE MEMBER SCHWARZ: AYE
COMMITTEE MEMBER TRAEGER: AYE
COMMITTEE MEMBER CARROLL: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Chairperson Lacey noted, "As I mentioned earlier, we are at the point of taking the next
step which I had recommended that we refer to the Attorney and Staff to draft all our
previous recommendations into a Report for us to review at the next Meeting in two (2)
weeks."
Vice Chairperson Freeman asked, "I would appreciate the opportunity to see the Charter
as it exists with our deletions and additions and modifications, so that we can go through
— see what the Charter would look like."
Chairperson Lacey asked Attorney Garganese, "If you prepared a Draft Report for us,
could you include in that a version of the Charter that accepted our majority
recommendations ?" Attorney Garganese replied, "I can - black line the existing Charter
with all of your changes."
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"I MOVE THAT WE DIRECT THE CITY ATTORNEY TO DRAFT A FINAL
REPORT, BLACK LINING THE CHARTER SO THAT WE COULD ALSO r
LOOK AT IT AT THE SAME TIME, FOR OUR REVIEW IN TWO (2) WEEKS." ems'
MOTION BY COMMITTEE MEMBER POE. SECONDED BY COMMITTEE
MEMBER KING. DISCUSSION.
CHAIRPERSON LACEY NOTED, "WE ASK THE CITY ATTORNEY TO — 1:2.4
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GIVE US A DRAFT REPORT THAT INCLUDES A BLACK LINE VERSION OF
THE CHARTER REFLECTING THE MAJORITY CHANGES."
VOTE:
COMMITTEE MEMBER ACHA: AYE
COMMITTEE MEMBER KING: AYE
COMMITTEE MEMBER MARKWARD: AYE
COMMITTEE MEMBER SCHWARZ: AYE
COMMITTEE MEMBER TRAEGER: AYE
COMMITTEE MEMBER CARROLL: AYE
CHAIRPERSON LACEY: AYE
COMMITTEE MEMBER POE: AYE
COMMITTEE MEMBER GLAZIER: AYE
VICE CHAIRPERSON FREEMAN: AYE
COMMITTEE MEMBER RYSER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Chairperson Lacey said to Attorney Garganese, "Our next Meeting is in two (2) weeks,
can we have that ready then ?" Attorney Garganese replied, "We are going to do our best
to get it ready. We have a list of all the changes in a spreadsheet and we should be able
to accomplish that in two (2) weeks." Chairperson Lacey noted, "We will meet on April
15, (2010) to review that Draft Report."
Continuing, Chairperson Lacey then added, "We have the email from Mr. Busher who is
still in the audience. Is there any discussion by the Committee on the input that Mr.
Busher gave us ?" No further comments were heard.
VI. GENERAL PUBLIC INPUT
No one spoke.
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VII. ADJOURNMENT
Chairman Lacey adjourned the Meeting at 8:08 p.m.
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NEXT MEETING: Thursday, April 15, 2010 - 7:00 P.M.
RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED:
JOAN L. BROWN
DEPUTY CITY CLERK
NOTE: These Minutes were approved at the , 2010 Winter Springs Ad Hoc Charter Review Committee
Meeting.