HomeMy WebLinkAbout2008 07 28 Consent 209 Approval of the July 15, 2008 City Commission Workshop MinutesCITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA
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CITY COMMISSION
WORKSHOP
JULY 15, 2008
CALL TO ORDER
The Workshop of Tuesday, July 15, 2008 of the City Commission was called to Order by
Deputy Mayor Donald A. Gilmore at 5:30 p.m. in the Commission Chambers of the
Municipal Building (City Hall, 1126 East State Road 434, Winter Springs, Florida
32708).
Roll Call:
Mayor John F. Bush, absent
Deputy Mayor Donald A. Gilmore, present
Commissioner Robert S. Miller, present
Commissioner Rick Brown, present
Commissioner Sally McGinnis, absent
Commissioner Joanne M. Krebs, present
City Manager Ronald W. McLemore, present
City Attorney Anthony A. Garganese, absent
A moment of silence was followed by the Pledge of Allegiance.
INFORMATIONAL AGENDA
INFORMATIONAL
100. Office Of The City Manager
Budget Review.
Public Works/Utility Departments:
Mr. Kip Lockcuff, P.E., Director, Public Works/LTtility Department addressed the City
Commission on his Department's Budget and referenced replacement pages that had just
been distributed to the City Commission. Mr. Lockcuff added, "If you would just replace
[Page] 36 to 42 with those pages, please; actually [Page] 37 - [Page] 36, there is no
change."
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Much discussion.
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Commissioner Robert S. Miller asked about the Asphalt Line Item, to which Mr.
Lockcuff explained, "It is the `Stamped asphalt', is what that should say; and we redid
the intersection of Winter Springs Boulevard at Tuskawilla [Road]. It costs us about
twelve thousand dollars ($12,000.00) to recoat it."
Discussion continued.
Next, Commissioner Rick Brown inquired about the Capital Projects Fund. Mr. Lockcuff
responded, "That is for the Compound." Mr. Lockcuff stated, "I have Greg [Bishop,
Capital Projects Coordinator, Public Works Department] working on a Bid on that. I
would like to bring that back in about sixty (60) ninety (90) days. That would finish the
storage buildings."
Much discussion.
Regarding Impact Fee Funds, Mr. Lockcuff commented, "I got a draft about three (3)
weeks ago. We expect to have the Report over the next couple of days. I hope to bring
that forward to you probably September."
On the issue of Magnolia Park, City Manager Ronald W. McLemore asked, "Have you
seen the renderings on those on -that project?" Commissioner Brown said, "The
renderings? No." Manager McLemore replied, "We need to bring that back to you."
Regarding improvements to Lori Anne Lane, Manager McLemore suggested that "We
really need to try to create another project over there for rehabbing those units because it
has been very, very successful in terms of meeting our real goal which was to try to affect
the crime area over there, which we did - as well as the aesthetic approval and getting that
place cleaned up was really important in terms of getting people to invest in that area."
Tape I/Side B
Continuing, Manager McLemore suggested, "We need to find a way to fix Lori Anne
Lane."
Discussion ensued on Impact Fees.
Regarding Reclaimed and Potable Water, Commissioner Miller suggested a discount for
customers who do not have reclaimed water.
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Commissioner Joanne M. Krebs suggested reviewing the Reclaimed Water issue.
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Much discussion.
Tape 2/Side A
Discussion continued.
With discussion on wells, Mr. Lockcuff stated that the two hundred and seven thousand
dollars ($207,000.00) "Needs to be under Lake Jesup and I'll get with Kelly [Balagia, ~
Budget Analyst, Finance Department] tomorrow and we'll change that and you'll see that
on the Final Engineering." ~
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Commissioner Miller suggested to Manager McLemore regarding changing the Budget ~
Year Headings. Manager McLemore commented, "If it bothers you, we can take it out."
Commissioner Brown stated, "No." Commissioner Krebs and Deputy Mayor Gilmore
were also not in favor of this.
Further discussion.
Deputy Mayor Gilmore called a Recess at 7:20 p. m.
The Workshop was called back to Order at 7.•35 p. m.
Police Department:
Chief of Police Daniel J. Kerr addressed his Departmental Budget with the City
Commission.
Discussion.
On lot clearings, Chief Kerr commented, "It may be something that we might have to
come back and revisit as the Budget Year goes forward." Commissioner Brown
responded, "Why don't we just double it going in?" Chief Kerr responded, "That would
be your choice." Commissioner Miller stated, "Sounds like that is one of those items that
we probably need to have the City Manager earmark on our documents about a month
from now when we are looking at really critical areas that we need to focus on."
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Manager McLemore noted, "I had it on the `Add Back' list - we talked about fifteen
thousand dollars ($15,000.00) in additional money for the Police Department for this lot
clearing purpose."
Discussion.
Tape 2/Side B
Discussion continued on the Police Department Budget and staffing concerns. ~
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The Workshop was then called back to Order.
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Community Development Department:
Mr. Randy Stevenson, ASLA, AICP, Director, Community Development Department
addressed the City Commission on his Budget.
Much discussion.
Tape 3/Side A
Discussion continued.
Mr. Steven Richart, Urban Beautification Services Division Manager, Community
Development Department answered questions regarding the Urban Beautification
Services Division.
Discussion followed on improving the west end of the City and specifically areas like the
Babcock property. Manager McLemore agreed that this should be done.
Mr. Richart mentioned that, "Every time we see someone retrofit their community with
decorative streetlights, there is an additional cost for poles." Commissioner Krebs
commented, "Maybe we should look at that?"
Discussion followed on safety concerns and the need for better streetlighting at the
intersection of State Road 434 and Tuskawilla Road, Mr. Richart stated, "Maybe we
could get the County to consider putting in some additional lighting in that area."
Manager McLemore added, "We can explore that and see if we can get anything from the
County. Or, we can - if you want to submit - a section for us to do, we'll do that. We
will work you up some alternatives."
Discussion.
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Regarding the "Streetlighting & Signage Fund", Mr. Richart explained, "When we do a
retrofit, this one shows Glen Eagle (subdivision), they give us a deposit for street signs
and what not. We spend that money to put in - to purchase and put in the new decorative
street signs, and they're required to hold atwenty-five percent (25%) deposit for repairs.
And this is where it is. It's showing a negative fund balance of the interest rate -the
assumption was off - we had areduction -and we did not reduce the expenditure. I
assume Kelly [Balagia, Budget Analyst, Finance Department] is going to correct that and
the Final Budget, and I assume it will come from the refund amount." Mr. Richart added,
"That should say `Zero' at the fund balance instead of `Negative 35[.00]'."
Further discussion.
Next, Commissioner Krebs commented about a dead tree near the Oak Forest Wall, near
the church. Mr. Richart explained, "It had a fungal condition. We were trying to save
it." Mr. Richart added, "We will replace it."
Commissioner Brown asked, "The comments on the bottom of the sheets related to the
`Clerk Time' -should that be quarterly or are they still putting in eight (8) hours a month
even though the Meetings are now quarterly?" Mr. Richart replied, "The Meetings are
just going quarterly and it is two hundred and fifty dollars ($250.00) per quarterly
Meeting." Ms. Kelly Balagia, Budget Analyst, Finance Department stated, "I can change
it." Mr. Richart added, "They may call a Special Meeting, so please be aware of that."
Discussion followed regarding damage to the Oak Forest Wall; following up on insurance
claims; and the Newby property.
Further comments were made.
In other City business, regarding the discussion from last night's Regular City
Commission Meeting related to the Jingle Bell SK Run, Commissioner Krebs stated, "I
want to bring it up under - my Seat or at the next Meeting, but I wanted you to think a
little further on it and maybe - we not act on anything, until we have time to really think
about it. There are Policy issues here, there are I think, other issues on whether we pick
out one (1) -charity."
Commissioner Krebs added, "I think all of it is great -there are many, many charities
that need to be funded especially this time of our economic landscape. But, I really want
to bring it back up. I want us to discuss it a little bit further and maybe think about it
before we really act upon it. So, I want to let you know that I want to bring it up in two
(2) weeks, but I really didn't want you to do -anything before that -and maybe give it
some further thought to it."
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Commissioner Miller stated, "I think Joanne [Krebs] was on the prevailing side."
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Manager McLemore responded, "What I am hearing you say is, there are some things we
needed to go forward with notification on, if you remember - and I think what you are
suggesting is that you don't go forward with anything until you all have this second
round of discussion that you want to have..." Commissioner Krebs stated, "...Yes, and
now that we have been going through Budget as well."
Next, future Budget related Meetings were addressed. Manager McLemore continued,
"We are going to come forward with an Agenda Item to reconsider." Commissioner ~
Krebs replied, "If we could do it that way, that would be great." :~
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Manager McLemore suggested, "Maybe we will think about having a kind of `Open
Night' where Staff would be here and you all can come in and ask questions."
Commissioner Krebs stated, "That would be good." Manager McLemore added, "Before
we have another formal Workshop, we will have an evening where we will be here and
you just come and ask for more information on anything -that you want to discuss
further." ,,~,,,
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Tape 3/Side B
Discussion continued on these proposed discussions and when the Tentative Millage
needed to be decided.
Ms. Michelle Greco, Director, Finance Department asked, "Can we just check on that and
let you know?" Commissioner Krebs replied, "Yes. Sure, of course. We could always
schedule it on the 31 sc [of August 2008] as a Special Meeting."
Manager McLemore stated, "What I was thinking about more was an informal Meeting
where everybody didn't have to come - to make our Staff available to you so you could
ask questions and try to further understand what's in here. So, tomorrow night, we will
pick a date. But, there will be some information on some of these items that are
important, that we won't have by the 28rn „
Regarding the other Meeting, Manager McLemore added, "We will go ahead and
structure up the Agenda Item for the Tentative Millage, where you can look at it as part
of that evening. Is that fair?" Commissioner Miller stated, "Yes." No objections were
voiced.
Discussion followed on possible dates.
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ADJOURNMENT
Deputy Mayor Gilmore adjourned the Workshop at 9:57 p.m.
RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED:
JOAN L. BROWN, DEPUTY CITY CLERK AND
ANDREA LORENZO-LUACES, CMC
CITY CLERK
APPROVED:
JOHN F. BUSH
MAYOR
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NOTE: These Minutes were approved at the , 2008 Regular City Commission Meeting.
CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA
MINUTES
CITY COMMISSION
WORKSHOP
JULY 15, 2008
CALL TO ORDER
The Workshop of Tuesday, July 15, 2008 of the City Commission was called to Order by
Deputy Mayor Donald A. Gilmore at 5:30 p.m. in the Commission Chambers of the
Municipal Building (City Hall, 1126 East State Road 434, Winter Springs, Florida
32708).
Roll Call:
Mayor John F. Bush, absent
Deputy Mayor Donald A. Gilmore, present
Commissioner Robert S. Miller, present
Commissioner Rick Brown, present
Commissioner Sally McGinnis, absent
Commissioner Joanne M. Krebs, present
City Manager Ronald W. McLemore, present
City Attorney Anthony A. Garganese, absent
A moment of silence was followed by the Pledge of Allegiance.
INFORMATIONAL AGENDA
INFORMATIONAL
100. Office Of The City Manager
Budget Review.
Public Works/Utility Departments:
Mr. Kip Lockcuff, P.E., Director, Public Works/Utility Department addressed the City
Commission on his Department's Budget and referenced replacement pages that had just
been distributed to the City Commission. Mr. Lockcuff added, "If you would just replace
[Page] 36 to 42 with those pages, please; actually [Page] 37 - [Page] 36, there is no
change."
Much discussion.
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Commissioner Robert S. Miller asked about the Asphalt Line Item, to which Mr.
Lockcuff explained, "It is the `Stamped asphalt', is what that should say; and we redid
the intersection of Winter Springs Boulevard at Tuskawilla [Road]. It costs us about
twelve thousand dollars ($12,000.00) to recoat it."
Discussion continued.
Next, Commissioner Rick Brown inquired about the Capital Projects Fund. Mr. Lockcuff
responded, "That is for the Compound." Mr. Lockcuff stated, "I have Greg [Bishop,
Capital Projects Coordinator, Public Works Department] working on a Bid on that. I
would like to bring that back in about sixty (60) ninety (90) days. That would finish the
storage buildings."
Much discussion.
Regarding Impact Fee Funds, Mr. Lockcuff commented, "I got a draft about three (3)
weeks ago. We expect to have the Report over the next couple of days. I hope to bring
that forward to you probably September."
On the issue of Magnolia Park, City Manager Ronald W. McLemore asked, "Have you
seen the renderings on those on -that project?" Commissioner Brown said, "The
renderings? No." Manager McLemore replied, "We need to bring that back to you."
Regarding improvements to Lori Anne Lane, Manager McLemore suggested that "We
really need to try to create another project over there for rehabbing those units because it
has been very, very successful in terms of meeting our real goal which was to try to affect
the crime area over there, which we did - as well as the aesthetic approval and getting that
place cleaned up was really important in terms of getting people to invest in that area."
Tape 1/Side B
Continuing, Manager McLemore suggested, "We need to find a way to fix Lori Anne
Lane."
Discussion ensued on Impact Fees.
Regarding Reclaimed and Potable Water, Commissioner Miller suggested a discount for
customers who do not have reclaimed water.
Commissioner Joanne M. Krebs suggested reviewing the Reclaimed Water issue.
Much discussion.
Tape 2/Side A
Discussion continued.
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With discussion on wells, Mr. Lockcuff stated that the two hundred and seven thousand
dollars ($207,000.00) "Needs to be under Lake Jesup and I'll get with Kelly [Balagia,
Budget Analyst, Finance Department] tomorrow and we'll change that and you'll see that
on the Final Engineering."
Discussion.
Commissioner Miller suggested to Manager McLemore regarding changing the Budget
Year Headings. Manager McLemore commented, "If it bothers you, we can take it out."
Commissioner Brown stated, "No." Commissioner Krebs and Deputy Mayor Gilmore
were also not in favor of this.
Further discussion.
Deputy Mayor Gilmore called a Recess at 7: 20 p. m.
The Workshop was called back to Order at 7:35 p. m.
Police Department:
Chief of Police Daniel J. Kerr addressed his Departmental Budget with the City
Commission.
Discussion.
On lot clearings, Chief Kerr commented, "It may be something that we might have to
come back and revisit as the Budget Year goes forward." Commissioner Brown
responded, "Why don't we just double it going in?" Chief Kerr responded, "That would
be your choice." Commissioner Miller stated, "Sounds like that is one of those items that
we probably need to have the City Manager earmark on our documents about a month
from now when we are looking at really critical areas that we need to focus on."
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Manager McLemore noted, "I had it on the `Add Back' list - we talked about fifteen
thousand dollars ($15,000.00) in additional money for the Police Department for this lot
clearing purpose."
Discussion.
Tape 2/Side B
Discussion continued on the Police Department Budget and staffing concerns.
Deputy Mayor Gilmore called a brief Recess.
The Workshop was then called back to Order.
Community Development Department:
Mr. Randy Stevenson, ASLA, AICP, Director, Community Development Department
addressed the City Commission on his Budget.
Much discussion.
Tape 3/Side A
Discussion continued.
Mr. Steven Richart, Urban Beautification Services Division Manager, Community
Development Department answered questions regarding the Urban Beautification
Services Division.
Discussion followed on improving the west end of the City and specifically areas like the
Babcock property. Manager McLemore agreed that this should be done.
Mr. Richart mentioned that, "Every time we see someone retrofit their community with
decorative streetlights, there is an additional cost for poles." Commissioner Krebs
commented, "Maybe we should look at that?"
Discussion followed on safety concerns and the need for better streetlighting at the
intersection of State Road 434 and Tuskawilla Road, Mr. Richart stated, "Maybe we
could get the County to consider putting in some additional lighting in that area."
Manager McLemore added, "We can explore that and see if we can get anything from the
County. Or, we can - if you want to submit - a section for us to do, we'll do that. We
will work you up some alternatives."
Discussion.
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Regarding the "Streetlighting & Signage Fund", Mr. Richart explained, "When we do a
retrofit, this one shows Glen Eagle (subdivision), they give us a deposit for street signs
and what not. We spend that money to put in - to purchase and put in the new decorative
street signs, and they're required to hold atwenty-five percent (25%) deposit for repairs.
And this is where it is. It's showing a negative fund balance of the interest rate -the
assumption was off - we had areduction -and we did not reduce the expenditure. I
assume Kelly [Balagia, Budget Analyst, Finance Department] is going to correct that and
the Final Budget, and I assume it will come from the refund amount." Mr. Richart added,
"That should say `Zero' at the fund balance instead of `Negative 35[.00]'."
Further discussion.
Next, Commissioner Krebs commented about a dead tree near the Oak Forest Wall, near
the church. Mr. Richart explained, "It had a fungal condition. We were trying to save
it." Mr. Richart added, "We will replace it."
Commissioner Brown asked, "The comments on the bottom of the sheets related to the
`Clerk Time' -should that be quarterly or are they still putting in eight (8) hours a month
even though the Meetings are now quarterly?" Mr. Richart replied, "The Meetings are
just going quarterly and it is two hundred and fifty dollars ($250.00) per quarterly
Meeting." Ms. Kelly Balagia, Budget Analyst, Finance Department stated, "I can change
it." Mr. Richart added, "They may call a Special Meeting, so please be aware of that."
Discussion followed regarding damage to the Oak Forest Wall; following up on insurance
claims; and the Newby property.
Further comments were made.
In other City business, regarding the discussion from last night's Regular City
Commission Meeting related to the Jingle Bell SK Run, Commissioner Krebs stated, "I
want to bring it up under - my Seat or at the next Meeting, but I wanted you to think a
little further on it and maybe - we not act on anything, until we have time to really think
about it. There are Policy issues here, there are I think, other issues on whether we pick
out one (1) -charity."
Commissioner Krebs added, "I think all of it is great -there are many, many charities
that need to be funded especially this time of our economic landscape. But, I really want
to bring it back up. I want us to discuss it a little bit further and maybe think about it
before we really act upon it. So, I want to let you know that I want to bring it up in two
(2) weeks, but I really didn't want you to do -anything before that -and maybe give it
some further thought to it."
Commissioner Miller stated, "I think Joanne [Krebs] was on the prevailing side."
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Manager McLemore responded, "What I am hearing you say is, there are some things we
needed to go forward with notification on, if you remember - and I think what you are
suggesting is that you don't go forward with anything until you all have this second
round of discussion that you want to have..." Commissioner Krebs stated, "...Yes, and
now that we have been going through Budget as well."
Next, future Budget related Meetings were addressed. Manager McLemore continued,
"We are going to come forward with an Agenda Item to reconsider." Commissioner
Krebs replied, "If we could do it that way, that would be great."
Manager McLemore suggested, "Maybe we will think about having a kind of `Open
Night' where Staff would be here and you all can come in and ask questions."
Commissioner Krebs stated, "That would be good." Manager McLemore added, "Before
we have another formal Workshop, we will have an evening where we will be here and
you just come and ask for more information on anything -that you want to discuss
further."
Tape 3/Side B
Discussion continued on these proposed discussions and when the Tentative Millage
needed to be decided.
Ms. Michelle Greco, Director, Finance Department asked, "Can we just check on that and
let you know?" Commissioner Krebs replied, "Yes. Sure, of course. We could always
schedule it on the 31St [of August 2008] as a Special Meeting."
Manager McLemore stated, "What I was thinking about more was an informal Meeting
where everybody didn't have to come - to make our Staff available to you so you could
ask questions and try to further understand what's in here. So, tomorrow night, we will
pick a date. But, there will be some information on some of these items that are
important, that we won't have by the 28th."
Regarding the other Meeting, Manager McLemore added, "We will go ahead and
structure up the Agenda Item for the Tentative Millage, where you can look at it as part
of that evening. Is that fair?" Commissioner Miller stated, "Yes." No objections were
voiced.
Discussion followed on possible dates.
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ADJOURNMENT
Deputy Mayor Gilmore adjourned the Workshop at 9:57 p.m.
RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED:
JOAN L. BROWN, DEP UTY CITY CLERK AND
A LORENZO-LUACES, CMC
CITY CLERK
AI'EROVEl3; _.
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JOHN F. BUSH ~`
MAYOR
NOTE: These Minutes were approved at the July 28, 2008 Regulaz City Commission Meeting.