HomeMy WebLinkAbout_2009 12 14 City Commission Regular Minutes CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA
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CALL TO ORDER
The Regular Meeting of Monday, December 14, 2009 of the City Commission was called
to Order by Mayor John F. Bush at 5:15 p.m. in the Commission Chambers of the
Municipal Building (City Hall, 1126 East State Road 434, Winter Springs, Florida
32708).
Roll Call:
Mayor John F. Bush, present
Deputy Mayor Joanne M. Krebs, present
Commissioner Jean Hovey, present
Commissioner Rick Brown, present
Commissioner Gary Bonner, present
Commissioner Sally McGinnis, present
City Manager Kevin L. Smith, absent
Public Works/Utility Department Director Kip Lockcuff, present
City Attorney Anthony A. Garganese, arrived at 5:16 p.m.
A moment of silence was held, followed by the Pledge of Allegiance
INFORMATIONAL AGENDA
INFORMATIONAL
100. Community Development Department
Advising The City Commission Of The Status Of Various Current Planning
Projects.
Commissioner Sally McGinnis asked about the Winter Springs Town Center.
City Attorney Anthony A. Garganese arrived at 5:16 p.m.
With discussion, Mr. Randy Stevenson, ASLA, AICP, Director, Community
Development Department spoke on the Owners; Tenants; and a recent meeting that City
Staff had attended.
Deputy Mayor Joanne M. Krebs commented on the need for some buildings to be cleaned
and mentioned there was at least one (1) light pole that was leaning (in the area of
Wendy's).
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Mr. Stevenson then commented on maintenance issues and added, "I'll take a look at that
one and I have several people to call - I can call them tomorrow on that."
With further remarks about the light pole, Mr. Stevenson stated, "I will take a look at that
tomorrow Commissioner, and like I said, I think maybe we can determine which
maintenance company we need to be talking to on that and I will be in touch with them."
Deputy Mayor Krebs asked if the Bank drive -thru could be taken down?
Commissioner Gary Bonner asked about the Tuscawilla Greens project. Brief discussion.
The Winter Springs Town Center was again discussed and Commissioner Rick Brown
said to Mr. Stevenson, "There are banks of lights in the parking lot that do not light."
Furthermore on the Tuscawilla Greens project, Mr. Stevenson stated, "I do know that in
our discussion with Taylor Morrison, [Inc.] they are sticking to those Architectural Plans,
so the homes should be the same." Mr. Stevenson added, "At least, that is what we are
holding them to."
INFORMATIONAL
101. Parks And Recreation Department
Wishes To Inform The City Commission Regarding Recommended Changes To The
Schedule Of Fees For Various Parks And Recreation Facility Uses.
With discussion, Commissioner Brown noted, "Was there any consideration given to
instead of doing a short three (3) month, at the end of the year, actually selling a fifteen
(15) month membership, so that they get a reduced rate on the three (3) months ending -
but we already have the funds collected for the upcoming year ?"
Continuing, Mayor Bush asked Mr. Pula, "Is there any reason you couldn't do that ?" Mr.
Chuck Pula, Director, Parks and Recreation Department stated, "No. We can do that."
Deputy Mayor Krebs asked what programs the City offers Seniors, and what the Senior
Association offers Seniors? Mr. Pula said, "I probably need to bring you back a list."
Deputy Mayor Krebs stated, "That will be fine."
INFORMATIONAL
102. Office Of The City Manager
Transmitting The City's Fiscal Year 2009 4 Quarter Financial Report.
No discussion.
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INFORMATIONAL
103. Information Services Department
Wishes To Inform Commission Of The Upcoming Launch Of The New Winter
Springs Website On December 15, 2009.
There was no discussion on this Agenda Item.
"MOTION TO APPROVE." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS.
SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS. DISCUSSION.
MAYOR BUSH SUMMARIZED, "MOTION TO APPROVE THE
INFORMATIONAL AGENDA."
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER HOVEY: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER BONNER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
CONSENT AGENDA
CONSENT
200.1 Public Works Department
Requests The City Commission's Authorization To Enter Into An Agreement With
The St. Johns River Water Management District For Funding Construction Of The
Solary Canal Regional Stormwater Treatment Area.
There was no discussion on this Agenda Item.
CONSENT
200.2 Public Works Department
Requests The City Commission's Authorization To Execute A Quit Claim Deed
From The St. Johns River Water Management District For Acquisition Of The 28.9
Acre Property For The Solary Canal Regional Stormwater Treatment Area.
No discussion.
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CONSENT
201. Parks And Recreation Department
Recommending The City Commission To Authorize The City Manager To Grant A
Utility Easement To Progress Energy (FPL) From SR-434 (State Road 434) To The
Back Left Side Of The Permanent Dog Park And Approve The Cost Of $6,698.24
To Provide Underground Service For The Permanent Dog Park.
This Agenda Item was not discussed.
CONSENT
202. Parks And Recreation Department
Requesting The City Commission To Authorize The City Manager To Execute An
Addendum To The Agreement Between The City Of Winter Springs And The
Scottish American Society Of Central Florida, Inc. For The 33 Annual Central
Florida Scottish Festival And Highland Games.
There was no discussion on this Agenda Item.
CONSENT
203. Office Of The City Clerk
Requesting Approval Of The November 17, 2009 City Commission Workshop
Minutes.
No discussion.
CONSENT
204. Office Of The City Clerk
Requesting Approval Of The November 23, 2009 City Commission Regular Meeting
Minutes.
This Agenda Item was not discussed.
"MOTION TO APPROVE" [CONSENT AGENDA]. MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BROWN.
DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BONNER: AYE
COMMISSIONER HOVEY: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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AWARDS AND PRESENTATIONS
AWARDS AND PRESENTATIONS
300. Office Of The Mayor And City Commission
Presentation Of Resolution Number 2009 -56 Expressing Appreciation to Dale Kirby
For His Service As A Member Of The City Of Winter Springs' Code Enforcement
Board.
Mayor Bush noted that Mr. Dale Kirby could not attend this evening, and suggested the
Resolution be sent to him.
AWARDS AND PRESENTATIONS
301. Office Of The Mayor
Presenting A Proclamation Affirming Our Partnership With The United States
Census Bureau In Support Of The 2010 Census.
Regarding this Agenda Item, Mayor Bush briefly referenced this Resolution.
REPORTS
REPORTS
400. Office Of The City Attorney — Anthony A. Garganese, Esquire
Attorney Garganese first commented on the Anderson's Coach Works, Inc. Case and
explained that the Seminole County Fire Marshal advised his office that Anderson's
Coach Works, Inc. had closed. Attorney Garganese then noted that a recent letter from
the Attorney representing Anderson's Coach Works, Inc. mentioned they were possibly
considering another action and might possibly dismiss this lawsuit after January 2010.
Regarding the City of Winter Springs v. Lexon [National Union Fire Insurance Company
of Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania] Case, Attorney Garganese noted this pertained to the Jesup's
Reserve Performance Bond. Attorney Garganese explained that based on discussions
between our City Engineer and the Adjuster representing Lexon [National Union Fire
Insurance Company of Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania], the Adjuster has been telling us we
should be expecting a "Formal offer to settle." Attorney Garganese then advised the City
Commission that should the City receive a written formal settlement, that he would
forward it to the City Commission as soon as possible.
Attorney Garganese then commented on the Stormwater Case - Jones v. Winter Springs
and noted that the Plaintiff filed an Amended Complaint and that his office had filed a
"Motion to Dismiss" which was denied by the Judge. Attorney Garganese explained that
his office would now be answering the Amended Complaint.
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Furthermore, Attorney Garganese added, "We still have not heard formally regarding the
City's conceptual settlement offer regarding the natural canal that runs through Dunmar
Estates. We'll keep you apprised. Hopefully, we'll hear something from the Plaintiff
regarding that proposed conceptual settlement."
Next, Attorney Garganese spoke about a recent Pro Se lawsuit — "Gump v. the Police
Chief and a couple of our Officers ". Attorney Garganese noted that his office will be
"Filing a response of pleading - we believe that the allegations made by this individual
are completely without merit, but we will be defending accordingly."
Continuing, Attorney Garganese explained that related to the Tuscawilla Greens project,
sometime after January 2010, an issue related to the Tuscawilla Country Club's fourth
tennis court will probably come before the City Commission. Attorney Garganese
mentioned that the Principal suggested they would be asking the City Commission to
possibly Amend "The condition that the tennis court be completed by the 33 Certificate
of Occupancy."
Attorney Garganese added, "So, that's going to be an issue that you all are going to have
to wrestle with because that addresses several issues. One, that fourth tennis court was a
recreational amenity that was tied to Recreation Concurrency requirements and was also
part of the consideration that the City received in the Settlement Agreement. So, we'll
frame all the issues and - we will be bringing that back to you sometime after the first of
the year."
Lastly, Attorney Garganese explained they have met with the International Brotherhood
of Electrical Workers, whose Pension Fund currently owns Phase II of the Town Center
and they are suggesting a substantial Amendment to the Development Agreement.
Attorney Garganese added that it would possibly be brought to the City Commission
sometime after January 2010.
Discussion followed on the Tuscawilla Greens project; and Maintenance
Bonds/Performance Bonds.
Commissioner Bonner stated, "In light of the experience we had with the Jesup's Reserve
project across the street, will we be changing our standard Bonding language and/or
clarifying what is covered and what is not, so we don't end up in a question mark
between whether the Performance Bond covers or the Maintenance Bond covers and so
on and so forth? Is there a way to clarify this time around ?"
Attorney Garganese explained, "Once the infrastructure is approved and accepted, then
the City will receive a Maintenance Bond which requires that the property be maintained
for two (2) years..." Mr. Kip Lockcuff, P.E., Director, Public Works/Utility Department
noted, "...Two (2) years. It's only what we accept, which in this case would be the
Water and Sewer Improvements for a Performance Bond for any unfinished work."
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Attorney Garganese added, "Now typically, if the property has been Conveyed to the
City and the infrastructure is being built on City property, then the Performance Bond is
generally received as part of the Plat and early on in the project."
Commissioner Bonner said to Attorney Garganese, "There was some question as to
which of the two (2) Bonds were covering certain incomplete infrastructure items across
the street at Jesup's Reserve and — this Commission made a decision to proceed with
spending the citizen's money to complete those improvements on behalf of the citizens
during the time when we had this question about the Bonds and the coverage.
I just want to clarify my understanding that when we go to acceptance and we write these
or issue these Bonds or these Bonds are issued for Maintenance and Performance, that the
Bonds on the [Tuscawilla] Greens project - there is a way to avoid repeating that
experience. We won't have a Jesup's Reserve question mark occur in the event, it is
unfortunately necessary to pursue the Bonds for some matter."
Mr. Lockcuff said, "I would say it's different in a sense that the only public infrastructure
would be the water and sewer lines, whereas Jesup's Reserve had the public streets, and
the alleys were private. It's pretty clear in our mind where that line is drawn. I think
anytime you make a claim against the Bond, having a Bond and then having a Callable
Bond are two (2) different things.
So, I think we in our mind had a pretty good idea what was Maintenance and what was
Performance; but when you're trying to argue that with a point with Attorneys involved,
then obviously there is a difference of opinions. I don't know - we can take a look at that
to see if there is some different language. I don't think there is anything specific in the
Code that I am aware where it spells that out. Maybe we use Tuscawilla Greens as a test
case when we bring that forward."
Commissioner Bonner then inquired, "Is there any way for the Bonds to be written in
such a manner to - I guess make them a little more clear or give us more control over the
outcome of that decision that we experienced in the case of the Jesup's Reserve, on
behalf of the citizens ?"
Attorney Garganese said, "It could also be a very technical Engineering question - how
you dissect all the different components of the project.
Further comments followed on the Tuscawilla Greens project.
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REPORTS
401. Office Of The City Manager — Kevin L. Smith
Mr. Lockcuff stated, "No Report."
Mayor Bush mentioned to Mr. Lockcuff that as he walks around his neighborhood he
often sees City trucks driving around. Mr. Lockcuff mentioned that City vehicles are
marked with the division they are affiliated with; and suggested that Mayor Bush advise
him about which specific City trucks he sees driving around. Mr. Lockcuff said he could
then advise Mayor Bush better as to where the vehicle was going.
Deputy Mayor Krebs said to Mr. Lockcuff, "On the corner of Winter Springs Boulevard
and Oak Forest Drive, there is a huge patch of something that has been dug up - what is
it and when is it - going to get fixed ?" Mr. Lockcuff stated, "I'll check on it."
Commissioner Bonner then asked Mr. Lockcuff about the Trail Bridge project.
Continuing the discussion with Mr. Brian Fields, P.E., City Engineer, Public Works
Department, Mayor Bush said to Mr. Fields, "What you sent me, just send it to the rest of
the Commissioners."
Mr. Fields briefly addressed the City Commission and added, "I will send the email out."
Mayor Bush added, "Think that ought to go on the Website, too." Commissioner Bonner
stated, "That is a good idea." Deputy Mayor Krebs agreed and stated, "Yes."
Commissioner Bonner then suggested, "Maybe an eAlerts." Regarding possibly using a
Press Release from Seminole County, Mayor Bush remarked, "The Press Release did not
go into the detail though that you just stated."
Next, Mayor Bush said to Mr. Lockcuff, "At the intersection of Greenbriar (Lane) and -
Chestnut Ridge (Street), the markings that you put on the street - for pedestrians to cross,
they are practically non - existent anymore." Mr. Fields stated, "We'll take a look at it."
Lastly, Mayor Bush suggested that the Bridge on Northern Way (across the creek) needed
to be painted. Mr. Fields explained he had put in a Work Order and noted, "We'll check
that out."
REPORTS
402. Office Of The City Clerk — Andrea Lorenzo - Luaces, MMC
City Clerk Andrea Lorenzo - Luaces asked if the City Commission had anything in
particular they would like to have for their Workshop on Advisory Board and
Committees scheduled for Monday, February 1, 2010.
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Mayor Bush said to City Clerk Lorenzo - Luaces, "Why don't you give the Commission
time to think about it and get back with you on that one - why don't you send an email to
everybody saying what you just said." City Clerk Lorenzo - Luaces stated, "Okay."
REPORTS
403. Commission Seat Five /Deputy Mayor — Joanne M. Krebs
Deputy Mayor Krebs commented on a previous discussion related to an Agreement with
the Incubator project and the construction of related buildings. Deputy Mayor Krebs then
asked if there was "Something we could do to put it down in writing that - `We are not
going to hold you to that'."
With further comments on the Incubator project, Commissioner Brown suggested a
"Review annually, to see where we are - then we can decide when to extend, based on
what our experts are telling us about the economy, and business development."
Commissioner Brown added, "I hate to let that Agreement just go away and say, `We are
going to relieve you of it', because we really do want to see that building there."
With discussion, Attorney Garganese suggested bringing this Agreement back to the City
Commission at the second Meeting in January of 2010. Deputy Mayor Krebs stated,
"That would be fine." Mayor Bush summarized, "Second Meeting in January [2010]
Commissioners - is that okay?" Deputy Mayor Krebs remarked, "Okay." Commissioner
McGinnis stated, "Good." No objections were voiced.
Next, Deputy Mayor Krebs briefly referenced the recent Holiday Parade and Christmas
Tree Lighting Event and noted, "Chuck (Pula) - that was done very, very nice and thank
you to you and your Staff."
Next, Deputy Mayor Krebs commented on a latest Vote by the City Commission related
to the proposed 4 of July Event and commented on the merits of putting on a 4 of July
celebration, and what it means to the community.
Tape 1 /Side B
Discussion followed on the economy; spending or not spending tax dollars for such
Events; sponsors; quality of life; and possible ways to charge such as one dollar ($1.00)
per person or charging by family or by car. Commissioner Brown mentioned he would
consider this, if funding options such as charging at gates was considered. Further
comments continued.
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Commissioner McGinnis also stated that she was waiting for "A cost breakdown on what
all these venues cost each taxpayer - I guess that is forthcoming ?"
Mr. Pula addressed charging to park vehicles, traffic issues; charging on a per person or
family basis and noted, "It is something we could bring back to you for your
consideration."
"I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO RECONSIDER THIS FOR
DISCUSSION." MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS. SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. DISCUSSION.
MAYOR BUSH SUMMARIZED, "MOTION IS TO RECONSIDER THE 4 OF
JULY - THE FIREWORKS IN LIGHT OF THE DISCUSSION THAT WE HAVE
HAD."
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER HOVEY: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BONNER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Mr. Pula added, "Second Meeting in January [2010] ?" Mayor Bush said to the City
Commission, "Second Meeting in January [2010] ?" Deputy Mayor Krebs responded,
"Okay." Commissioner McGinnis commented, "That is fine." No objections were noted.
Lastly, Deputy Mayor Krebs wished everyone a Merry Christmas.
REPORTS
404. Office Of The Mayor — John F. Bush
Mayor Bush mentioned last weekend's Candy Cane 5K and said, "Thought it was a
success." Mayor Bush added that Mr. Fields came in as 3 overall and Commissioner
Brown added, "Number 1 in his age group."
Secondly, Mayor Bush remarked that he had been in touch with someone who is
interested in opening a new restaurant in the Town Center and suggested that
Commissioner Brown speak with this individual.
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Then, Mayor Bush referenced some upcoming events including the next Mayors and
Managers Group Meeting; and the Central Florida Legislative Delegation at the
University of Central Florida. Regarding the Oviedo - Winter Springs Regional Chamber
of Commerce Trustees Luncheon scheduled for December 15, 2009, Mayor Bush asked
that if anyone on the City Commission wanted to attend, to let the City Clerk know.
Concluding his Report, Mayor Bush mentioned that on December 21, 2009 is the "Light
Up UCF (University of Central Florida)" event, and which is also known as "Winter
Springs Night ". Mayor Bush added that donations would be made in honor of a Charity
of the Mayor's choice.
REPORTS
405. Commission Seat One — Jean Hovey
Commissioner Jean Hovey noted that she attended the first meeting of the Winter Springs
Historical Society.
Next, Commissioner Hovey mentioned her family; and also wished everyone "Merry
Christmas ".
REPORTS
406. Commission Seat Two — Rick Brown
Commissioner Brown asked for an update on some electrical equipment located at
Vistawilla Drive and Nandina Terrace which had been marked with graffiti and asked
why it took four (4) weeks for this to be taken care of. Captain Glenn Tolleson, Code
Enforcement Bureau, Police Department stated, "I'll find out."
Commissioner Brown then mentioned the upcoming "Shop with a Cop" Event. Deputy
Mayor Krebs also commented on this Event and asked that she be contacted by Police
Department Staff Member Allison Smith.
Next, discussion followed on the timeline for the Vistawilla Drive turn lanes.
Lastly, Commissioner Brown commented on the turn lane at Papa Tony's. Discussion
followed with Mr. Fields who noted, "If the Commission would like, we can bring this
back. We did an Agenda Item about a year ago - we went through about four (4) options
to address that problem. The Commission did select to use the Hayes Road Plaza, but
since that project is on hold - we could revisit those options. At least present them and
provide an update at the first Meeting in January, if that's okay?" Deputy Mayor Krebs
stated, "That is fine." Commissioner McGinnis and Commissioner Bonner nodded
affirmatively. No objections were voiced.
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REPORTS
407. Commission Seat Three — Gary Bonner
Commissioner Bonner explained he had recently attended two (2) Homeowner's
Association Meetings and specifically regarding a meeting with the Arrowhead
Homeowner's Association, Commissioner Bonner noted, "I am sorry that Manager
[Kevin L.] Smith is not here, but I am very pleased to say that we not only addressed all
of their questions to their satisfaction, but we actually were very successful in engaging
that community in - part with at least a better understanding of the direction we are taking
as a community to address all of the issues, such as what St. Johns River Water
Management's [District] 2013 Cap does to us; as well as our desire to expand Reclaimed
infrastructure."
Commissioner Bonner also thanked Mr. Lockcuff for his prompt help in fixing a
resident's leak on their property.
Continuing, Commissioner Bonner remarked, "One of the suggestions that did come out
of that meeting on the communications side which I think is an excellent suggestion; so,
Kip ( Lockcuff) perhaps you could take this back as a note for the Staff Meeting - is to see
if we couldn't reach out to all of the Homeowner's Associations and encourage all of the
Homeowner's Association leadership and board members - at least invite them to become
active with the new eAlerts email system.
I couldn't answer the question as to how many Homeowner's Associations there are in
the City, but I know there are quite a few and they probably serve a good half of our
citizens, maybe even more - so, if we could get to those board leadership people with our
eAlerts, I think we could touch a great many citizens in our communications goals. So,
that was a suggestion from the Arrowhead community."
Commissioner Bonner also mentioned an Arbor Glen Homeowner's Association meeting
he had attended and thanked Mr. Stevenson for some assistance he had given
Commissioner Bonner.
Concluding his Report, Commissioner Bonner remarked, "I have had a lot of positive
feedback about the outcome of the house on Gator Lane, so thank you to whoever we
owe thanks to, for taking care of that matter after many, many years."
REPORTS
408. Commission Seat Four — Sally McGinnis
"OAK FOREST WALL AND BEAUTIFICATION DISTRICT ADVISORY
COMMITTEE - I AM NOMINATING RAQUEL SANTANA." MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS.
DISCUSSION.
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VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER HOVEY: AYE
COMMISSIONER BONNER: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Mayor Bush noted that with this Motion, Regular Agenda Item "604" was now taken care
of.
Commissioner McGinnis wished everyone a "Happy New Year ".
PUBLIC INPUT
Ms. Brenda Brown, 211 Nandina Terrace, Winter Springs, Florida: commented on some
family issues involving Courtney Canova, who was the poster Artist for the recently held
Oviedo - Winter Springs Regional Chamber of Commerce's Art Festival. Ms. Brown also
mentioned that a Trust Fund had been set up at Trustco Banks for this family; and asked
the City Commission to assist in getting the word out to help this family.
PUBLIC HEARINGS AGENDA
PUBLIC HEARINGS
500. Community Development Department — Planning Division
Requests That The Local Planning Agency Hold A Public Hearing For
Consideration Of Ordinance 2009 -15, Amending The Comprehensive Plan To
Incorporate The Annual Update To The Capital Improvement Element (CIE)
Required By Rule 9J -5.016 FAC (Florida Administrative Code) And Chapter 163,
Part II, F.S. (Florida Statutes).
Mayor Bush stated, "Motion to read by `Title' only?"
"SO MOVED." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. SECONDED BY
DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER HOVEY: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BONNER: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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Attorney Garganese read the Ordinance by "Title" only.
Ms. Eloise Sahlstrom, AICP, ASLA, Senior Planner, Community Development
Department spoke on this Agenda Item.
Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
No one spoke.
Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input " portion of the Agenda Item.
"MOTION TO MOVE TO SECOND READING." MOTION BY DEPUTY
MAYOR KREBS. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BROWN. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BONNER: AYE
COMMISSIONER HOVEY: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
501. Community Development Department
Requests The City Commission Hear The Request For A Waiver From The Six (6)
Foot Side Yard Setback Set Forth In Section 20 -186. Of The City Code, Pursuant
To The Waiver Criteria And Procedure Detailed In Section 20 -34., To Allow The
Expansion Of An Existing Domicile At 204 Elderwood Street (Lot 28 Of Foxmoor,
Unit 1, P.B. (Plat Book) 19, Pages 70 & 71), Which Is As Close As Approximately 5
(Five) Feet Of The Side Lot Line (To Allow As Much As A One Foot Encroachment
Into The 6 (Six) Foot Side Yard Building Setback).
Mr. John Baker, AICP, Senior Planner, Community Development Department introduced
this Agenda Item for discussion.
Discussion.
Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
No one spoke.
Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
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"MOTION TO APPROVE." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BROWN.
SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER HOVEY: AYE
COMMISSIONER BONNER: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
REGULAR AGENDA
REGULAR
600. Parks And Recreation Department
Requesting The City Commission To Decide If It Wishes The City To Host A Mardi
Gras Parade And Festival And If So To Authorize The City Manager To Execute
The Agreement Between The City Of Winter Springs And The Krewe Of Leaders
For The 2010 Mardi Gras Parade And Festival.
Mr. Pula began the discussion on this Agenda Item.
Discussion.
Ms. Mary Alice Wilder, 719 Boysenberry Court, Winter Springs, Florida: addressed the
City Commission on this proposed Event.
With further comments, a photo copy of the proposed Poster for this Event was
distributed to the City Commission by Mr. Paul Sladek.
Tape 2 /Side A
Discussion followed on a Cancellation Clause in the Contract; to which Ms. Wilder
stated, "I would be willing to give you a fifteen (15) day Cancellation." Deputy Mayor
Krebs suggested that Ms. Wilder speak with the City Manager about the Contract.
Mr. Paul Sladek, 1519 West Broadway Street, Oviedo, Florida: stated, "If I understood
Mr. Pula correct, he said we could wait to execute the contract - just the Krewe of
Leaders [Inc.] until we are sure we had all the sponsors. Fifteen (15) days or thirty (30)
days, would that be acceptable? Because if we don't have to sign the Contract for fifteen
(15) days after tonight, then there's no need for an out Clause that gives us fifteen (15)
days to withdraw the Contract."
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Attorney Garganese stated, "If that's the case, then you can approve the Permit
Agreement and - it would be effective upon execution by the Krewe of Leaders [Inc.] and
you give them fifteen (15) days to execute the Contract or there is no Agreement."
Deputy Mayor Krebs noted, "I am not completely comfortable with that because we
haven't had the City Manager tell us what he needs as far as the City is concerned." With
further discussion, Attorney Garganese asked Mr. Pula, "Is everything in this Agreement
acceptable to the Manager ?" Mr. Pula responded, "Yes." Deputy Mayor Krebs then
mentioned her concern with an email. Mr. Sladek noted, "I think an email did get sent to
you requesting a change, but since that time, I was able to — address it with Mary Alice
(Wilder)."
Attorney Garganese said, "That's acceptable and if they don't sign it within fifteen (15)
days then it is taken off the table - there is no Event."
"MOTION TO APPROVE." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BONNER.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BROWN. DISCUSSION.
MAYOR BUSH STATED, "MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONTRACT."
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BONNER: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER HOVEY: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: NAY
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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601. Utility Department
Requesting The City Commission Review The Draft Irrigation Ordinance.
Mayor Bush said to Mr. Lockcuff, "This isn't the First Reading of the Ordinance." Mr.
Lockcuff stated, "That is correct. Nor will we have a First Reading until we send the
draft to the District for the District's input and review."
Mr. Lockcuff addressed the City Commission on this draft and mentioned six (6) optional
items he would like the City Commission to consider. Mr. Lockcuff then remarked, "We
have had in place since 2002, restrictions on Reclaimed to twice a week. My
recommendation is year - round, leave that at twice a week."
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Commissioner Bonner stated, "I support that." Commissioner McGinnis said, "Good."
No objections were voiced.
Water restrictions, notifications; fines, how the City of Oviedo handles such a Policy, and
how an Appeals process would work was discussed next. Commissioner Bonner
mentioned his preference for some kind of a Peer /Citizen Board to hear Appeals.
Deputy Mayor Krebs asked, "Would it be possible either to bring back their process..."
Mr. Lockcuff said, "...Sure." Deputy Mayor Krebs continued, "Since we are Policy
Makers ourselves, we could create a process where in fact, they could, and that would be
through Anthony (Garganese), they could have another step within there, not just - the
City Manager or something like that." Mr. Lockcuff pointed out, "And that's my goal -
is if you're interested in pursuing it, we could bring back more information for
discussion. If you're not, we'll just leave it at the Code [Enforcement] Board."
Commissioner Bonner stated, "I want to make sure there is a due process that affords -
someone who is cited, to have their opportunity, their Hearing, their day in Court. Where
I get concerned is if it becomes a judgment by Staff, even if that Staff person is the
Manager."
Mayor Bush asked about tampered locks, charges, and who would such Cases be
Appealed to? Mr. Lockcuff responded, "I don't think there's an Appeal process." Mr.
Lockcuff suggested, "We could put that into this new Ordinance or whatever new
Ordinance encompasses the enforcement side of that."
Attorney Garganese noted that he would like to review the "Enforcement mechanism ".
Mr. Lockcuff remarked, "I hear an interest, so we'll pursue more information." Deputy
Mayor Krebs said, "Okay." No objections were voiced.
Next, the issue of prohibiting Potable Water when Reclaimed Water is available was
addressed next.
Commissioner Bonner mentioned he was interested in receiving further information on
the ten to twelve (10 — 12) homes in Chelsea Woods not migrating in; and commented on
communication; encouraging and educating residents to migrate, rather than requiring
migration.
Also discussed were costs; and whether there were preferred Contractors that could be
recommended? Mr. Lockcuff said, "Certainly, we could have a preferred Vendor list of -
six (6) or ten (10) Vendors who we feel are providing fair and competitive rates - we
could look at that." Deputy Mayor Krebs then asked, "Could we just go out and just find
out from these providers ?" Mr. Lockcuff responded, "Sure."
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With discussion, Commissioner Brown mentioned he liked the time payment idea and
added that Progress Energy provides "All kinds of incentives for people for electricity,
energy management systems" and inquired, "Are there no state or Federal Grants, rebates
or anything for residents to hook up to Reclaimed rather than Potable? Does St. Johns
[River Water Management District] not provide any incentives for people to actually do
this ?" Mr. Lockcuff said, "We can check."
Mandates; reviews; and enforcement action were addressed next, to which Mr. Lockcuff
noted, "We may have to commit to it at that point in time, but if you would rather punt at
this point in time, that is fine." Mayor Bush and Commissioner McGinnis agreed.
On item 4., related to irrigation from a detention pond, Mr. Lockcuff explained, "I think
they should be under the same restriction as everyone else as far as the - days of the
week; as far as Reclaimed, it's reuse water, surface water - so my recommendation is
restrict the detention ponds to the twice a week, same as Reclaimed." Commissioner
McGinnis stated, "I agree." Deputy Mayor Krebs commented, "I agree with that." Other
Commissioners nodded in agreement.
Discussion ensued on median irrigation, consumption, behavior demand, and Reclaimed
Water users.
Commissioner Bonner said, "I support this, obviously to reduce or load balance the
system and my challenge to you is that we're constantly diligent as we continue the
expansion to look at ways to reduce capital investment."
Mr. Lockcuff remarked, "If we're effective with conservation efforts on Phase I we may
not need the - Phase II plant - for huge savings... Commissioner Bonner added,
"...Which would allow us to lower the burden on our customers."
Discussion followed on irrigation in medians; Reclaimed Water costs; and whether it was
possible to make Reclaimed Water more affordable.
Mr. Lockcuff then asked the City Commission - "Median irrigation, is that okay - the two
(2) days a week, that aren't the standard four (4) ?" Deputy Mayor Krebs remarked,
"Yes." Commissioner McGinnis stated, "That is fine." No objections were voiced.
Hose Bibbs were addressed next and Mr. Lockcuff noted, "I have no problem with that, if
the Commission agrees - I don't have a problem incorporating it in the new Ordinance.
It's pretty labor intensive to retrofit, but certainly going forward, we would incorporate
that feature in the new services."
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Deputy Mayor Krebs stated, "I think you should incorporate that feature." With further
comments, Commissioner McGinnis said, "I like that." Mayor Bush added, "Okay." No
objections were voiced.
With further brief comments on hand watering, Mr. Lockcuff said, "I will get with
Anthony (Garganese) and draft something up and probably won't have the Code
Enforcement stuff in there, and it certainly won't have the mandates for the Potable
disconnect; but, probably will more closely follow District rules; send it up there - when
they bless it which I understand is a cumbersome process, we'll bring it back for First
Reading."
Commissioner McGinnis then said, "Good job Kip ( Lockcuff)." Deputy Mayor Krebs
added, "Thank you Kip (Lockcuff)."
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602.1 Office Of The City Attorney
Requesting The City Commission To Approve Resolution 2009 -59 Authorizing An
Electronic Message Board Feature To Be Incorporated In The Existing Permanent
Monument Sign Located At The Entrance Of City Hall On State Road 434 And
Establishing A Related Use And Performance Standard Policy.
Attorney Garganese introduced this Agenda Item for discussion.
Commissioner Hovey asked about the status of a previous related discussion that Indian
Trails Middle School had brought forward. Attorney Garganese stated that this was
being considered under an InterLocal Cooperation Agreement with Seminole County
Public Schools.
Continuing, Commissioner Hovey commented, "If we Approve this, then it Approves it
for the City but it won't Approve it for anyone else." Commissioner Hovey then asked if
we were considering reviewing the Code for other entities? Attorney Garganese stated,
"Yes — that's under Planning review. This just opens it up for the City at City Hall to
modify the existing monument sign for the reasons that are set forth in the Agenda Item."
Mr. Stevenson added, "We are looking at the text, more on a universal basis."
Deputy Mayor Krebs mentioned she thought that they had agreed to do something for the
schools. Attorney Garganese commented on what was being considered, and Deputy
Mayor Krebs then asked, "When do we think we might have that back - to look at it
again ?"
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Mr. Stevenson responded, "We're working on it now Commissioners - we will get it back
to you absolutely as soon as we can. At the earliest, it would probably be the first
Meeting in February." Deputy Mayor Krebs added, "Let us just say, by the first of
March [Meeting] we have it. Could that be a Consensus of the Commission ?"
Commissioner Hovey stated, "That is good." Deputy Mayor Krebs and Commission
Brown nodded in agreement. No objections were voiced.
Attorney Garganese then explained, "You will note in the Resolution that it establishes
certain standards for the monument out front at City Hall. Are those same standards what
you want to see with the School District ?"
Deputy Mayor Krebs remarked, "I want to see something, so let's start somewhere - I
would think the Commission would want to see something." Attorney Garganese added,
"Logically, it makes sense that the City is going to impose these standards for itself - that
the same standards would apply to the School District..." Deputy Mayor Krebs stated,
"...Right." Commissioner McGinnis added, "Yes." Furthermore, Commissioner
McGinnis suggested, "There should be one (1) standard."
"MOTION TO APPROVE." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BROWN.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BONNER. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER HOVEY: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BONNER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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602.2 Community Development Department
Requesting That The City Commission Review A Proposed Electronic Message
Center For City Hall And Approve A Proposal From Eljay Athletic Services For
The Purchase And Installation Of The Same At A Cost Of $26,295.00.
Mr. Stevenson spoke on this Agenda Item and noted, "This is a three (3) line sign."
Further comments followed on moving the seal to the left; a wired or wireless version;
and that the price might possibly be lower.
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Additionally, Mr. Stevenson stated, "I would like to request as part of your Approval if
possible, those two (2) modifications - the last one being that we could negotiate the
wired version, and as long as it did not exceed the twenty -seven thousand dollar
($27,000.00) budget, you could authorize the Manager and the City Attorney to execute
the documents necessary to bring this construction forth."
Discussion followed on the best color for the sign. Mr. Stevenson stated, "We will ask
them about that." Mr. Stevenson added, "We will confirm that with them, before we
move forward."
Traffic concerns and distractions related to such signage was addressed next, to which
Attorney Garganese explained, "The Resolution imposes a minimum of five (5) minute
time period per message, unless it's an emergency; so you're not going to have a lot of
flashing. And it's not going to be scrolling."
"I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THIS ITEM WITH THE
CHANGE OF THE SEAL AND ALSO THE RESEARCH ON THE WIRED
PORTION OF THE BOX - AND ALSO VERIFICATION OF THE BEST
COLOR." MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS. SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER BROWN. DISCUSSION.
WITH BRIEF COMMENTS ON THE PRICE, MR. STEVENSON POINTED
OUT, "I HAVE REQUESTED - I THINK THE PRICE SHOULD GO DOWN, BUT
WE WERE REQUESTING THE FLEXIBILITY AS LONG AS IT DID NOT
EXCEED THE BUDGETED TWENTY -SEVEN THOUSAND [DOLLARS]
($27,000.00)." DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS STATED, "OKAY - NOT TO EXCEED
TWENTY -SEVEN THOUSAND [DOLLARS] ($27,000.00)."
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER HOVEY: AYE
COMMISSIONER BONNER: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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603. Community Development Department
Requests The City Commission Make The Final Three (3) Appointments To The
2010 Winter Springs Districting Commission.
"I WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE NAOMI ROBERTS" TO THE DISTRICTING
COMMISSION. MOTION BY COMMISSIONER HOVEY. SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER BROWN. DISCUSSION.
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VOTE:
DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BONNER: AYE
COMMISSIONER HOVEY: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
"I WISH TO NOMINATE PAM CARROLL" TO THE DISTRICTING
COMMISSION. MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BONNER. SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER BROWN. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER HOVEY: AYE
COMMISSIONER BONNER: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
"I WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE PATRICK O'BRIEN" TO THE
DISTRICTING COMMISSION. MOTION BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BROWN. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BONNER: AYE
COMMISSIONER HOVEY: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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604. Office Of The City Clerk
Requests That Commissioner Sally McGinnis Make An Appointment To The Oak
Forest Wall And Beautification District Advisory Committee To Fill A Vacant Seat.
This was discussed under Commissioner McGinnis' Report as noted on pages 12 -13 of
these Minutes.
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605. Office Of The City Clerk
Respectfully Requests That The City Commission Consider Nominating The Next
Deputy Mayor As Stipulated In The Charter Of The City Of Winter Springs,
Consistent With Actions In The Past.
Mayor Bush commented, "Joanne (Krebs) has done a great job as Deputy Mayor."
Discussion.
"I WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE JOANNE KREBS TO BE DEPUTY MAYOR."
MOTION BY COMMISSIONER HOVEY.
MOTION DIED FOR LACK OF A SECOND.
Further discussion.
"I WILL NOMINATE COMMISSIONER BROWN" TO SERVE AS THE
NEXT DEPUTY MAYOR. MOTION BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BONNER. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER HOVEY: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER BONNER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Deputy Mayor Brown stated, "Thank you."
In other City business, Mayor Bush mentioned a meeting he had with Suzanne Kosmas'
staff who asked what they could do to help. Mayor Bush advised them about our Water
Reclamation Plant and SeminoleWAY; to which one of Suzanne Kosmas' staff suggested
the Department of Agriculture may be able to assist and said she would check on that.
Mayor Bush also spoke of information on some Grant Money and a January 21, 2010
deadline that he had just sent to the City Manager.
Commissioner Krebs commented on an upcoming Economic meeting with Dr. Sean
Snaith in January and thought someone from the City should attend; and she would
forward the information. Commissioner Krebs and Mayor Bush said they would forward
any date information and that perhaps the City Manager could assist.
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ADJOURNMENT
Mayor Bush adjourned the Regular Meeting at 7:49 p.m.
RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED:
- 01 A LORENZO - LUACES, MMC
Y CLERK
APPROVED;
4 /ti/Y - 4 :'
YOR JOHN ,BUSH
NOTE: These Minutes were approved at the January 11, 2010 City Commission Regular Meeting.