HomeMy WebLinkAbout_2008 12 15 City Commission Special MinutesCITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA
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SPECIAL MEETING
DECEMBER 15, 2008
CALL TO ORDER
The Special Meeting of Monday, December 15, 2008 of the City Commission was called
to Order by Mayor John F. Bush at 6:00 p.m. in the Commission Chambers of the
Municipal Building (City Hall, 1126 East State Road 434, Winter Springs, Florida
32708).
Roll Call:
Mayor John F. Bush, present
Deputy Mayor Joanne M. Krebs, present
Commissioner Jean Hovey, present
Commissioner Rick Brown, present
Commissioner Gary Bonner, present
Commissioner Sally McGinnis, present
City Manager Ronald W. McLemore, present
City Attorney Anthony A. Garganese, present
Mayor Bush opened "Public Input".
Ms. Darcy Conrad, 111 S Winter Springs Boulevard, Winter Springs, Florida: spoke of a
Petition; noted that parking in yards was not appropriate especially for Winter Springs
Boulevard; asked whom she would direct an inquiry on lowering the speed limit on
Winter Springs Boulevard; and suggested that right-of--way signage be added to Winter
Springs Boulevard.
Mr. Brent Krebs, 1115 Winter Springs Boulevard, Winter Springs, Florida: commented
on decreasing home values and parking in yards; and thought that parking should be
provided for condominium communities.
Mr. Donald A. Gilmore, 803 Leopard Trail, Winter Springs, Florida: suggested that
parking on lawns not be allowed in the Tuscawilla community; commented on safety
issues; and noted that the Tuscawilla Homeowner's Association opposed parking on the
streets in the Tuscawilla community.
Mayor Bush closed "Public Input".
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REGULAR AGENDA - PREVIOUSLY LISTED ON THE
DECEMBER 8, 2008 REGULAR MEETING AGENDA
REGULAR AGENDA (PART I)
REGULAR
602. Office Of Commissioner Joanne M. Krebs
Requesting The City Commission To Discuss Public Participation Rules Of Public
Meetings.
Deputy Mayor Joanne M. Krebs began the discussion on this Agenda Item.
Much discussion.
"I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ASK THE CITY
ATTORNEY TO BRING BACK LIBERAL LANGUAGE THAT WRAPS ITSELF
AROUND THE SPIRIT OF WHAT WEST PALM BEACH AND OTHERS
CITIES ARE DOING FOR OUR REVIEW THAT COULD BE AN AMENDMENT
TO THE RESOLUTION." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BROWN.
SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS. DISCUSSION.
CITY ATTORNEY ANTHONY A. GARGANESE NOTED, "WE COULD
PROBABLY BEEF UP SOME OF THE OTHER PARTS OF YOUR POLICY TO
ADDRESS THAT, BUT KEEP IN MIND - I WILL BE COMING BACK SAYING
YOUR FIRST AMENDMENT EQUAL PROTECTION - WE NEED TO MAKE
SURE THAT EVERYBODY CAN EXPRESS THEIR VIEWS ON RELEVANT
MATTERS BEFORE THE COMMISSION - HOWEVER, DISRUPTIVE
BEHAVIOR IS NOT APPROPRIATE."
COMMISSIONER BROWN THEN EXPLAINED THAT THE "MOTION WAS
THAT WE ASK THE CITY ATTORNEY TO COME BACK WITH WORDING
AS AN AMENDMENT TO OUR RESOLUTION IN THE SPIRIT OF WHAT WE
HAVE LOOKED AT HERE; AND I AGREE WITH YOU, WITHOUT IMPEDING
PEOPLE'S ABILITY TO EXPRESS THEMSELVES ON PERTINENT ISSUES.
I THINK THE ATTORNEY PUT IT APPROPRIATELY; BUT IN PROTECTING
THE COMMISSION FROM SLANDEROUS ATTACKS OR PERSONAL
ATTACKS, BECAUSE THEY SHOULD BE ADDRESSING THE COMMISSION
AS A BODY."
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS SUGGESTED, "BRING SEVERAL OPTIONS."
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VOTE:
COMMISSIONER HOVEY: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BONNER: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Discussion.
"MOTION TO CHANGE THE ENDING TIME OF THE MEETING TO 10:00
P.M." MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS. SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER BROWN. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BONNER: AYE
COMMISSIONER HOVEY: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Further discussion.
REGULAR
604. Office Of The City Clerk
Requesting The City Commission To Review The Information In This Agenda Item
Regarding Upcoming Appointments/Reappointments To The Board Of Trustees,
For Seat One, Seat Two, Seat Three, Seat Four, And Seat Five. Each Seat Is
Scheduled To Expire In January Of The Year 2009; And If Possible, The City
Commission Is Being Requested To Make Appointments/Reappointments To This
Advisory Board At This City Commission Meeting.
"I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT THE TERM EXPIRES THE
FIRST DAY OF JANUARY, 2009." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BROWN.
SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS. DISCUSSION.
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DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS STATED, "THE ONLY THING I THINK WE NEED
TO KEEP IN MIND IS WHEN A NEW COMMISSIONER TAKES OFFICE AS
TO THE TIME THAT THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO MAKE THAT
APPOINTMENT, BECAUSE I THINK PROBABLY THEY SHOULD MAKE
THAT APPOINTMENT UNLESS WE CHANGE ACTUALLY WHEN THE
COMMISSION TAKES PLACE AND THAT IS A CHARTER CHANGE."
DISCUSSION.
DISCUSSION FOLLOWED •ON WHY THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES DOES NOT
HAVE STAGGERED TERMS.
WITH FURTHER COMMENTS ON POSSIBLY STAGGERING SEATS ON THE
BOARD OF TRUSTEES, MAYOR BUSH STATED, "YOU CAN ALWAYS
BRING IT BACK." COMMISSIONER McGINNIS STATED, "WE COULD."
DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS ADDED, "WE COULD DO THAT."
CITY CLERK ANDREA LORENZO-LUACES CLARIFIED, "THAT MEANS
THAT THE NEW INCOMING BOARD [OF TRUSTEES] FOR THIS ONE -
THEY WOULD BEGIN IN OFFICE JANUARY 2, 2009."
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BONNER: AYE
COMMISSIONER HOVEY: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: NAY
DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Discussion.
"I MAKE A MOTION TO FOLLOW UP ON MY DISCUSSION AT THE LAST
MEETING, THAT THE INCOMING BOARD OF TRUSTEES CONCLUDE
THEIR OR PICK UP WHERE THE OLD BOARD OF TRUSTEES LEFT OFF IN
THEIR REVIEW IN HIRING, FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD, OF A
FINANCIAL MANAGER." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BROWN.
SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS. DISCUSSION.
DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS INQUIRED, "WON'T THEY BRING THAT PERSON
TO US FOR US TO APPROVE THAT?" MANAGER McLEMORE
RESPONDED BY SAYING, "CORRECT." MANAGER McLEMORE ADDED,
"THEY WILL BRING BACK, I AM SURE, ALL OF THE ONES AND THEY
WILL SAY - WE RATE THIS ONE, FIRST, SECOND, THIRD, THAT TYPE OF
THING; AND, THEN -YOU WOULD MAKE A SELECTION BASED ON THE
INFORMATION THEY PROVIDE YOU."
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MAYOR BUSH ASKED, "WHERE ARE THEY IN THIS PROCESS RIGHT
NOW?"
MANAGER McLEMORE EXPLAINED, "THEY HAVE THE RFP'S (REQUEST
FOR PROPOSAL'S) -THEY ARE EVALUATING THOSE AND HOPING TO
COME TOGETHER TO EVALUATE THOSE AND MAKE A
RECOMMENDATION FIRST OF JANUARY - THAT IS MY
UNDERSTANDING OF IT."
MAYOR BUSH SUGGESTED, "IT SEEMS TO ME THAT WE SHOULD ASK
THE CURRENT BOARD TO CEASE THEIR WORK ON THIS, AT THIS
POINT." COMMISSIONER BROWN ADDED, "I WOULD AGREE WITH
THAT."
DISCUSSION.
"I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A SUBSTITUTE MOTION MAYOR THAT THE
CURRENT BOARD OF TRUSTEES CEASE THEIR REVIEW AND
INVESTIGATION OF THE POTENTIAL MONEY MANAGERS AND LEAVE
THAT INSTEAD TO THE INCOMING BOARD OF TRUSTEES." MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER BROWN. SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS.
DISCUSSION.
COMMISSIONER BONNER ASKED, "WOULD WE TURN OVER ALL OF THE
RESUMES, ETC. TO THE INCOMING..." MANAGER McLEMORE STATED,
"...SURE..." COMMISSIONER BONNER CONTINUED, "...BOARD, SO THAT
THEY COULD START THEIR DILIGENCE RATHER THAN WAIT FOR
THEM TO CONVENE THEIR FIRST..." MANAGER McLEMORE STATED,
"...SURE. ONCE YOU APPOINT THEM."
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BONNER: AYE
COMMISSIONER HOVEY: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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"I WOULD LIKE TO RE-APPOINT MARIA FAIR." MOTION BY DEPUTY
MAYOR KREBS. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BROWN. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BONNER: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER HOVEY: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
"I WOULD LIKE TO APPOINT BARBARA WATKINS TO THE BOARD OF
TRUSTEES." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BROWN. SECONDED BY
DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER HOVEY: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BONNER: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
"I WOULD LIKE TO APPOINT BEN McMAHAN TO THE BOARD OF
TRUSTEES." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER HOVEY. SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER BROWN. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER HOVEY: AYE
COMMISSIONER BONNER: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
"I WOULD LIKE TO APPOINT MR. MAXWELL SWAIM TO THE BOARD OF
TRUSTEES." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BONNER. SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER BROWN. DISCUSSION.
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VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BONNER: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER HOVEY: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
"I WOULD LIKE
COMMISSIONER
DISCUSSION.
TO RE-APPOINT VERNON ROZELLE." MOTION BY
McGINNIS. SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS.
COMMISSIONER HOVEY: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER BONNER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
CONSENT AGENDA (PART II)
CONSENT
200. Office Of The City Manager
Requesting The City Commission Reconsider Authorization
Building Services, Inc. To Perform Repairs To Fire Station #26.
Manager McLemore introduced this Agenda Item.
To Utilize Southern
"I MOVE THAT WE UTILIZE SOUTHERN BUILDING SERVICES TO MAKE
THE REPAIRS TO FIRE STATION #26." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER
McGINNIS. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BONNER. DISCUSSION.
COMMISSIONER BROWN NOTED, "JUST FOR THE RECORD RON
(McLEMORE), THIS IS THE LAST OF OUR OUTSTANDING OBLIGATIONS
TO THE COUNTY WITH RESPECT TO TRANSFERRING?"
MANAGER McLEMORE RESPONDED, "AS FAR AS WE KNOW
COMMISSIONERS, THIS IS IT."
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MAYOR BUSH SUGGESTED THAT THE CITY MANAGER CONTACT THE
COUNTY MANAGER AND COMMISSIONER BROWN RECOMMENDED
THAT A LETTER TO THIS EFFECT BE SIGNED BY SEMINOLE COUNTY.
COMMISSIONER BROWN THEN ASKED MANAGER McLEMORE, "CAN
THAT BE BROUGHT BACK TO US BY THE NEXT MEETING?"
FURTHERMORE, COMMISSIONER BROWN ADDED, "THE AGREEMENT
BY THE COUNTY THAT THIS IS THE LAST OUTSTANDING -DOCUMENT
THAT SAYS THIS IS THE LAST OUTSTANDING ISSUE."
MANAGER McLEMORE STATED, "WE COULD CERTAINLY TRY TO DO
THAT. I CAN GET IT OUT TOMORROW. IS THAT BASED ON YOU
MOVING AHEAD TONIGHT?" COMMISSIONER BROWN REMARKED,
"YES, IF WE MOVE AHEAD TONIGHT." FURTHER DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BONNER: AYE
COMMISSIONER HOVEY: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
"I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ASK THE CITY
MANAGER TO COME BACK WITH A DOCUMENT FROM THE COUNTY
STATING THAT THIS IS THE LAST OUTSTANDING ITEM AROUND THE
TRANSFERENCE OF OUR FIREFIGHTING ASSETS TO THE COUNTY."
MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BROWN. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER
BONNER. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BONNER: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER HOVEY: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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•• AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING REGULAR AGENDA ITEMS
WERE DISCUSSED NEXT, IN THE ORDER DOCUMENTED. • •
REGULAR AGENDA (PART II)
REGULAR
601. Office Of The City Manager
Requesting A Discussion Of The Arts' Festival Budget.
Mr. Charles Lacey, 733 Bear Creek Circle, Winter Springs, Florida: commented on this
Agenda Item.
Tape 1/Side B
Discussion.
"I AM GOING TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPLY THIS THOUSAND
FOURTEEN DOLLARS ($1,014.00) IN FAVOR OF THE CHAMBER." MOTION
BY COMMISSIONER BROWN. SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS.
DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BONNER: AYE
COMMISSIONER HOVEY: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Mayor Bush called a Recess at 7: Ol p. m.
The Regular Meeting was called back to Order by Mayor Bush.
REGULAR
600. Police Department -Code Enforcement Bureau
Requests The Commission Review Alternatives And Provide Direction Regarding
The 9 Month Survey Of On-Street Parking Pilot Program.
Captain Glenn Tolleson, Code Enforcement Bureau, Police Department addressed the
City Commission on this issue; and a PowerPoint Presentation was shown to the City
Commission.
Manager McLemore left the Commission Chambers at 7: 36 p. m.
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Tape 2/Side A
Discussion ensued.
Manager McLemore returned to the Commission Chambers at 8: 06 p.m.
Further discussion.
Commissioner Sally McGinnis commented on her support and said to Captain Tolleson,
"Good job."
Much discussion.
Captain Tolleson asked, "Would you like to see all the same data as far as the traffic
crashes, the moving violations?" Deputy Mayor Krebs answered, "Yes." Commissioner
McGinnis remarked, "Yes."
Discussion.
Mayor Bush opened "Public Input ".
Ms. Pamela Carroll, 865 Dyson Drive, Winter Springs, Florida: as the President of the
Tuscawilla Homeowner's Association, Ms. Carroll spoke of a Vote which opposed
parking in yards and streets in the Tuscawilla community.
Ms. Pamela Carroll, 865 Dyson Drive, Winter Springs, Florida: as a citizen, Ms. Carroll
spoke of registering cars with unpaid parking tickets.
Mayor Bush asked Attorney Garganese, "Can the Clerk of the Court just refuse to do
that?" Attorney Garganese stated, "I will have to research it."
"Public Input" was closed.
With further discussion, Mayor Bush suggested that only an Ordinance that can be
enforced should be considered.
Tape 2/Side B
Discussion continued.
Captain Tolleson commented on penalization and noted, "If I run into that issue, I'm
going to bring that back to you all and say this is what we have run into - I understand
what you want to do. And, actually, we could take Alternative #3 and include that very
language."
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Mayor Bush said that "Captain Tolleson knows more about this than anybody sitting up
here, because he deals with it day in and day out; and - I think he does a great job and he
uses good judgement and it is a judgement call a lot of times; and I think that the
recommendation as I believe you had made, is Alternative #3 -prohibit parking in the
yards -continue to allow on-street parking in selected subdivisions for evaluation. What
do you mean?" Captain Tolleson noted, "The three (3) selected subdivisions -actually
Oak Forest, Mount Greenwood Units I & II, and North Orlando Terrace."
Interim Chief of Police Kevin Brunelle remarked, "I understand completely what you are
saying, and we've already implemented a plan to do the education part." Commissioner
McGinnis commented, "Good." Mayor Bush remarked, "Good point."
~~I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ADOPT OR ASK THE POLICE
DEPARTMENT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH Alternative #3 AND
INCORPORATING OR COMING BACK TO US WITH THEIR PROPOSAL
FOR EXPANDING THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT WILL BE SURVEYED."
MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BROWN. SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR
KREBS. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BONNER: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER HOVEY: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Further comments followed on future parking related to residences in the Town Center.
Mayor Bush again opened "Public Input ".
Mr. Darryl Thomas, 104 Windsor Crescent Street, Winter Springs, Florida: commented
on families; parking for guests; traffic safety; and taxes.
Mayor Bush then closed "Public Input ".
In other City business, discussion followed on Investments and the "CDARS" (Certificate
Of Deposit Account Registry Services) Program.
Ms. Michelle Greco, Director, Finance Department addressed concerns of the City
Commission.
Discussion.
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Commissioner Jean Hovey spoke for the Record and thanked everyone in the City for the
informative Orientations recently held.
Next, Commissioner Gary Bonner also spoke for the Record on the Investments issue and
noted that he would have liked more facts. Continuing, Commissioner Bonner stated that
he agreed with what Commissioner Hovey had said, and added, "Complimenting the
Staff on making their time available to us as new incoming Commissioners - it was very
insightful and enlightening and I feel the greatest confidence in the capability of the
people that are serving us each and every day here at Winter Springs.
Last thing that I would like to do is also compliment and thank the Staff and I believe in
this case, my thanks are to the Clerk's Office for the wonderful Event - my family and I
personally enjoyed the Event immensely; and thank you for making it a very special
moment in our lives."
The "CDARS" (Certificate Of Deposit Account Registry Services) Program was further
addressed by Deputy Mayor Krebs.
Furthermore, Deputy Mayor Krebs added, "I want to also thank Andrea (Lorenzo-Luaces,
City Clerk) and her Staff for the wonderful work that she put into the Inauguration
activities. I really appreciated it." Deputy Mayor Krebs also thanked Commissioner
Brown for the Christmas Ornament.
Discussion followed.
Commissioner Bonner stated, "Point of Clarification "and commented on a Motion from
a previous Meeting.
Additionally, Commissioner Bonner said, "Four (4) weeks from Wednesday will be the
maturity, and we'll be facing the question of what to do with the money at that time. And
then a point of further clarification for myself, the five million [dollars] ($5,000,000.00)
in Treasuries does not have a clock on it, is that correct? We did not give you the
direction that that was for a period of twenty-eight (28) days - I just want to clarify my
understanding of what the direction we have given you - so, twenty-eight (28) day clock
commencing on Wednesday on the `CDARS' (Certificate Of Deposit Account Registry
Services)."
With further comments, Manager McLemore said, "We will clarify it for you in an
email."
Discussion.
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Commissioner Rick Brown stated, "Unless the `CDARS' (Certificate Of Deposit
Account Registry Services) document or Contract is modified, the generic `CDARS'
(Certificate Of Deposit Account Registry Services) document Contract states that the
securities will be held in name of the custodian; so, they are actually in the name of
CNL[Bank] and not the City of Winter Springs. Is that correct? Did we change that to
make sure they were in the name of City of Winter Springs?
So, if CNL[Bank] should have an issue, we're not the name on the securities, are we?"
Manager McLemore remarked, "We will have to verify that." Ms. Greco added, "I
believe there was an option for us to do something different."
Commissioner Brown then said, "So, as far as I know, our Investments in `CDARS'
(Certificate Of Deposit Account Registry Services) are in the name of CNL[Bank] and
not City of Winter Springs; and if anything happens to CNL[Bank], we have got a
problem, which is the custodial risk I think that Maria Fair was warning us about."
Manager McLemore noted, "We'll give you a definite answer."
Mayor Bush commented, "I think the questions that have been asked -need to be
answered; and let the Commission know when you find out." Deputy Mayor Krebs
added, "Yes, please."
Next, Mayor Bush commented on a new Newsletter issue going out soon and suggested
that the new Commissioners be highlighted and asked, "Does the Commission have any
objection to this?" Commissioner McGinnis stated, "No." No objections were voiced.
Mayor Bush then commented on a resident, John Felsher who is a free-lance writer doing
the interviews with the new Commissioners and stated, "He doesn't do it for free -but
seems to be very reasonable. Do you have any objection to John (Felsher) doing this?"
"NO - I WILL EVEN MAKE THAT A MOTION." MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER BROWN.
Mr. John Felsher, 434 South Alderwood Street, Winter Springs, Florida: stated, "I
generally charge for work such as this, one hundred dollars ($100.00) for the first hour,
and then sixty [dollars] ($60.00) for every hour after that. But, I was talking to the Mayor
this morning -for good customers, I could probably come up with a reasonable rate -I'll
have to sit down and come up with the figure, but it's based on an hourly type of figure
for a news release such as this. I'd have to get with the individuals and interview them;
write the article; so, probably eight (8) hours worth of work or so."
Tape 3/Side A
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"I WILL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE PROCEED NOT TO EXCEED FIVE
HUNDRED DOLLARS ($500.00)." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BROWN.
SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS. DISCUSSION.
MANAGER McLEMORE NOTED, "LET'S DIFFERENTIATE BETWEEN A
ONE-TIME QUICK PROJECT AND AN ON-GOING CONTINUING SERVICES
CONTRACT. YOUR PURCHASING RULES WHICH ARE DESIGNED TO
KEEP ALL OF US OUT OF TROUBLE, ARE GOING TO DEMAND THAT WE
GO THROUGH SOME TYPE OF REVIEW PROCESS BEFORE WE ENTER
INTO A CONTINUING SERVICE PROJECT."
CONTINUING, MANAGER McLEMORE REMARKED, "SO, WHAT I WOULD
SUGGEST IF YOU WANTED TO DO SOMETHING WITH THIS GENTLEMAN
ON A ONE-TIME BASIS, YOU HAVE A RIGHT TO DO THAT -BUT IF WE
WANT TO TALK ABOUT A CONTINUING SERVICES CONTRACT, THEN
WE NEED TO GO AND PUT THAT OUT AND SEE WHAT KIND OF
CREDENTIALS -THAT WE GET AND PRICING."
FURTHER DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER HOVEY: NAY
DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS: NAY
COMMISSIONER BROWN: NAY
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: NAY
COMMISSIONER BONNER: NAY
MOTION DID NOT CARRY.
Mr. Felsher then noted, "I will do the project for three hundred dollars ($300.00) -the
two (2) Interviews, the two (2) articles on the two (2) Commissioners."
Lastly, in other City business, Mayor Bush commented that, "When someone serves on a
City Board and then they leave the Board, usually by their own choice, we send out - a
letter thanking them for their service, etc., however, we do not have a Policy on when
someone is removed from a Board because of non-attendance or as what happened here
at our last Meeting where we removed a Board Member for other issues. The question is
-there is no Policy of not sending them a letter thanking them. Now, common sense
would say that you would not but the problem is there is not a Policy that the
Commission has on this."
City Clerk Lorenzo-Luaces explained that the current practice is, "When somebody
leaves a Board for any reason, they receive a Resolution. It comes before you at one
Meeting. You Approve it; and then they are invited to attend [another Meeting] to
receive it [signed Resolution].
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In the case of a recent removal, that evening during the reception, the gentleman had
actually turned in his resignation [to a Deputy City Clerk]. I did not know that until the
next day." City Clerk Lorenzo-Luaces then noted, "There is no Policy for any of these
Resolutions, so, if you could just give me some guidance, I would appreciate it."
With discussion, Mayor Bush said, "It is my recommendation that if a person is removed
either by the Commission or through non-attendance, they should not get a
commendation of any kind." Deputy Mayor Krebs added, "I agree." Mayor Bush added,
"If you are removed because of non-attendance or if you are removed by a Vote of the
Commission, then no Resolution." Deputy Mayor Krebs agreed and stated, "That is my
feeling." Discussion.
"I WILL MAKE AMOTION -THAT IF YOU ARE REMOVED BY THE
COMMISSION -ACTUALLY WOULDN'T YOU SAY FOR ANY REASON,
THEN NO RESOLUTION." MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BROWN. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BONNER: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER HOVEY: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
ADJOURNMENT
Mayor Bush adjourned the Special Meeting at 9:29 p.m.
RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED:
LADONNA SLAYTER,
A $ISTANT TO THE CITY CLERK AND
REA LORENZO-LUACES, MMC
CITY CLERK
.t1VED: / . ,Q
r YOR JOHN I'. BUSH
NOTE: These Minutes were approved at the January 12, 2009 Regular City Commission Meeting.