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CALL TO ORDER
The Workshop of Monday, July 21,2003 of the City Commission was called to order by
Mayor John F. Bush at 6:30 p.m. in the Commission Chambers of the Municipal Building
(City Hall, 1126 East State Road 434, Winter Springs, Florida 32708).
Mayor John F. Bush, present
Deputy Mayor Robert S. Miller, present
Commissioner Michael S. Blake, absent
Commissioner Edward Martinez, Jr., present
Commissioner Sally McGinnis, present
Commissioner David W. McLeod, absent
City Manager Ronald W. McLemore, present
City Attorney Anthony A. Garganese, absent
A moment of silence was held.
AGENDA
1. A. Office Of The City Manager
Budget Review For FY 04.
City Manager Ronald W. McLemore and Ms. Louise Frangoul, Finance Department
Director presented their introductory comments to the Mayor and City Commission.
Manager McLemore explained, "What we will try to do is take all of your comments to
date, and roll them into the Tentative Budget."
Ms. Frangoul stated, "The Preliminary Budget that we had presented to you, a month or
so ago, included a Millage at 4.3120 that the Manager recommended, and included the
funding of the eight (8) Firefighters for the second halfof the year and since that point in
time, there have been some favorable changes with expenses and revenues that have
allowed us at this point in time, to drop that Millage down to 4.0754, before any
additional issues add any Millage to that. Some of the changes have been a reduction in
the anticipated increase in Health Insurance. The Preliminary Budget had included a
twenty percent (20%) increase in Health Insurance - we were able to drop that off, given
the new rates with UnitedHealthcare." Ms. Frangoul continued, "We received a revised
valuation on our property valuation in the City of Winter Springs and we were able to
generate another $51,000.00 in revenues."
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Next, Ms. Frangoul then pointed out that "The State of Florida maintains a Website
where they estimate - revenues to us and two (2) of the revenue sources came in a bit
higher than we had anticipated - we can expect about $25,000.00 more in our
Communication Services Tax monies that ultimately get transferred to the General
Fund." Ms. Frangoul added, "Our Revenue Sharing increased by $85,000.00."
Employee Benefits:
Discussion ensued on issues related to the Pension Plan. Commissioner Edward
Martinez, Jr. asked, "What would happen if we went 8/60 to' those that are approaching
the fifty-five (55) or very close to fifty-five (55) and would want to get out, once this Plan
goes into effect - are they going to be greatly affected?" Manager McLemore stated,
"No." Commissioner Martinez added, "I am concerned about the employees." Manager
McLemore added, "As long as you meet your financing requirements, the employees
won't be affected at all." Mayor Bush inquired, "If someone plans to retire at fifty-five
(55), and then the Commission passes this and raises it to sixty (60), how does it affect
the person who is still going to retire at fifty-five (55)?" Manager McLemore stated, "It
does not affect them."
Mayor Bush then said to Manager McLemore, "Based upon everything that you have
seen, your recommendation is still the same?" Manager McLemore stated, "Yes."
Mayor Bush then spoke about a recent Workshop where Commissioner Michael S. Blake
and a Consultant discussed issues related to Employee Benefits - Mayor Bush inquired,
"Did Commissioner Blake give him the questions that he wanted and did they give him
answers?" Manager McLemore responded, "That meeting has not taken place yet - we
have sent additional information to Commissioner Blake. I do not know what that has
done. At this point in time, there still has not been a meeting between Commissioner
Blake, the Actuary, and myself, which is what you had asked for."
Manager McLemore stated, "Your investment assumptions are demonstrating that they
are sound; and as long as you are willing to accept - the average at sixty (60), which your
Plan shows is a good, sound recommendation, and a thirty (30) year amortization, we
don't need to do anything. If you want to reduce the thirty (30) year amortization down
to a fifteen (15) year amortization, then we will have to increase the percentage of
contributions by 2 [percent]."
Deputy Mayor Robert S. Miller said, "I am comfortable that there is nothing really wrong
with sixty (60)." Commissioner Martinez stated, "Based on what I have heard tonight, I
don't have any objection with age sixty (60)." Commissioner Sally McGinnis stated, "I
agree." Mayor Bush summarized that "The consensus is - eight percent (8%) and age
sixty (60)."
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Police Department:
Discussion ensued on "Outstanding Issues" 1 - "Laptop for Police Vehicles," and
Broadband technology.
Ms. Jomme Dalka, Information Services Department Director addressed the City
Commission.
Discussion.
Chief of Police Daniel J. Kerr also spoke on this issue.
With the agreement of Mayor Bush and Chief Kerr, Manager McLemore said that this
issue should be "Put in a holding pattern - if something breaks during the year, we will
bring it back to you." Deputy Mayor Miller agreed and said, "Take it out."
Commissioner Martinez also agreed - "Based on what the Chief [Of Police] says."
Commissioner McGinnis stated, "Defer it." Furthermore, Manager McLemore added,
"And we will continue to keep working on Grants - and sources for funding for it, which
I think is really where the Commission was anyhow."
Next, discussion followed on "Outstanding Issues" 3 - "4 New Police Officers." Mayor
Bush stated, "That seemed to have a lot of support at the last Workshop, is it still that
way?" Commissioner McGinnis said, "It still has my support." Commissioner Martinez
stated, "We can't keep that out, we have been promising these guys for the last three (3)
years. "
Manager McLemore stated, "All of these things will remain on the list - those that you
have given a positive indication of tonight." Mayor Bush stated, "Outstanding Issues" 2 -
"Can come off." Then Mayor Bush said, "About the four (4) Officers - everybody has
agreed. "
Regarding "Police Motorcycles," "Outstanding Issues" 4 - on the list, Ms. Frangoul
stated, "Currently we are just shy about $40,000.00 Fund Balance, but I spoke with the
Chief [Of Police] and we are going to adjust the projection on the Building for the Fiscal
Year '03 - we currently have $165,000.00 slotted for the Building; we are going to adjust
that downwards so that he would be able to fund these items." Mayor Bush then said,
"So, we could fund the four (4) motorcycles without raising taxes?" Ms. Frangoul
responded, "Right." Mayor Bush said to Deputy Mayor Miller, "On the Motorcycles..."
Mayor Bush stated, "... Okay." Commissioner Martinez added, "They are badly needed."
Mayor Bush summarized, "The motorcycles are in."
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Information Services Department:
The next issue discussed dealt with "Outstanding Issues" number 5 - "1 New Information
Services Employee," a full-time Website person. Commissioner Martinez stated, "I don't
see any problem with this item."
Deputy Mayor Miller inquired of Ms. Dalka, "How many hits do we get?" Ms. Dalka
responded, "I can get that for you - I will actually put that on a Monthly Report for you
all, if you would like." Deputy Mayor Miller then asked "How other cities are faring on
this also." Deputy Mayor Miller added, "I would like to see some data in the next couple
of months - and I would be curious to find out what other cities experience is in this area,
that have been on the Web for four (4) or five (5) years." Ms. Dalka then stated, "The
information that you want me to bring back to you is the number of hits averaged."
Deputy Mayor Miller then said, "How many people will log on this morning to find out
what happened at City Hall yesterday?" Mayor Bush then said to Ms. Dalka, "Maybe the
person that you are contracting with could get that information." Deputy Mayor Miller
added, "Or send me an email and tell me where I can find it."
Commissioner McGinnis said, "I would be interested to know some of the numbers from
other cities. I don't question that you need help. If it is a full time 'Web' person - I
would have some questions about that." Mayor Bush added, "I think this person will do
more than just that." Ms. Dalka then said, "If we are going to do this Document Imaging
project, and do it all the way, we need to do it correctly from the beginning."
Commissioner McGinnis then said, "I don't have a problem with that."
"Outstanding Issues" - number 6, "Computers at Dais" was referenced next, and Mayor
Bush stated, "I don't think we are ready for number 6 yet, for the same reasons that we
are not ready for the Police to have Laptops [Computers]." Commissioner McGinnis
added, "There was good data gathered on that." Mayor Bush summarized the consensus
and stated, "6 is out."
Fire Department:
Regarding "Outstanding Issues" 7 - "Increase Paramedic Incentive" pay, Manager
McLemore stated, "This is something we absolutely need to do now, to make us
competitive in the marketplace - this is a must." Mayor Bush inquired, "Any
objections?" Commissioner McGinnis said, "No." Commissioner Martinez stated, "Not
from here." Deputy Mayor Miller did not have a problem with this.
Next, Manager McLemore explained that under "Outstanding Issues" 8 - "The additional
new Firefighter was the Firefighter that Tim [Lallathin, Fire Chief] told you about - to
round off his shifts." Commissioner Martinez stated, "You've got it - I am in favor."
Commissioner McGinnis said, "Yes." Deputy Mayor Miller did not voice any objection.
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A Fire Department Data Entry Clerk, "Outstanding Issues" 9 - was the next item
discussed. Manager McLemorE: stated, "Do you want to keep it on the list?"
Commissioner McGinnis agreed and said, "Yes, I have no problem with it."
Commissioner Martinez remarked, "I don't have any objections." Deputy Mayor Miller
said, "I don't have a problem with it."
Relative to "Outstanding Issues" - number 10, "Payoff Medical Transport Note,"
Manager McLemore stated that this "Was an issue raised by Commissioner Blake about
paying off this unit early. Based on an analysis we have done, it would save about -
$4,000.00." Ms. Frangoul stated, "I think it is fine, we can go ahead and pay that off."
Commissioner Martinez stated, "Agreed." Commissioner McGinnis said, "Fine."
Deputy Mayor Miller had no objection.
Regarding "Outstanding Issues" 11 - Manager McLemore stated that we are "Revising
the Medical Transport Revenues upward to be more reflective of our experience and we
are going to do that."
Community Development Department:
Manager McLemore stated, "The Building Department efficiency review - we are
moving forward with that. There was a scope of services that you saw in your handout
tonight. Again, that has no impact on the General Fund, and there is ample monies
within the other Fund to do this - we have agreed to do it, and your direction to me was,
get moving with it." Mayor Bush stated, "Conmlissioner Miller, everybody? Okay."
Next, Manager McLemore spoke of the interest in improving the signage in the Lobby of
City Hall, and stated, "We put some money on a line here, so we just have a place in the
Budget for it. I was personally and foremost interested in developing a real information
kiosk that really would provide infornlation as well as direction." Furthermore, Manager
McLemore stated, "We have had some schematic level of work done on that, so we may
actually be coming back to you later in the year with a bigger horizon for that type of an
information center in the Lobby."
Discussion ensued on the CUlTent telephone system and the possibility of having a person
answer incoming calls to the City. Deputy Mayor Miller asked, "How many other cities
in the County are doing that?" Mayor Bush stated, "Right now it is not under
consideration for this Budget, but I think you mentioned about the bigger horizon here,
maybe that is something that could be looked at in the future?"
Further discussion.
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Mayor Bush spoke of not being able to have some calls in the City transferred and said
that he would contact Ms. Dalka with this infornlation. Ms. Dalka stated, "I would like to
know."
Deputy Mayor Miller stated, "I would like to see you send us something in the next
couple of months, whenever you have time Ron [McLemore] - as to what is the number
of incoming calls."
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Chief Kerr stated, "We will be able to get you that information." Deputy Mayor Miller
added, "I am just curious, maybe at some point next year we can have a discussion - and
I will already have had this data - that we get 4,000 calls a day or whatever it is and
whether for a human person it would be very difficult to handle that volume; but if it is
not a large volume, it might be worth looking at next year."
Mayor Bush then pointed out that it is the "$10,000.00 for the signs that is what really is
on the sheet..." Manager McLemore stated, ".. .As it evolves, we may want to come
back with a different proposal." Commissioner McGilmis then said, "In the meantime
though, I think what the Mayor was asking was - couldn't we just - put some directional
signs out there?" Mayor Bush said to Manager McLemore, "Your intent is to do that
with the signage?" Commissioner McGinnis stated, "ASAP." Mayor Bush added,
"Okay. "
Regarding "Outstanding Issues" - number l4 - "To expense legal costs where it is really
. occurring, and so we want the Attorney to code his billing, so we know where to charge
it." Mayor Bush inquired of the City Commission, "Any problem with that?" Deputy
Mayor Miller did not voice any objection. Commissioner Martinez said, "No problem."
Mayor Bush then said, "Okay."
Manager McLemore mentioned another issue previously brought up by Commissioner
Blake - "He was interested in us trying to get in the position where we could potentially
sell some properties; so we had some Appraisals done on these properties to see what
their worth is in today's market." With discussion, Manager McLemore stated, "In my
opinion, 'A' and 'B' are off the block and 'c' and 'D' are possibilities." Additionally,
Manager McLemore said, "There is a good $700,000.00 there that could be sold - I don't
think 'A' and 'B' should be considered."
Next, Manager McLemore pointed out that "Another issue Commissioner Blake raised
was about our Agreement with Bank of Anlerica - fees and interest rates." Ms. Frangoul
explained, "Our Agreement does not have an expiration date, they are free to raise their
rates at any time, and we are free to look for another Bank at any point in time, however,
we did hire a Consultant just last October who did a review of all the Banks and
renegotiated our fees and it is not even one (1) year old yet. I would prefer that we revisit
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fees maybe once a year, or once every two (2) years - but I don't think it is a good time
right now."
Furthermore, Manager McLemore said, "The other issue raised by Commissioner Blake
was the policies relative to our Utility System, and he kind of benchmarked that against
the Policy you set for our Fund Balance in the General Fund - his question was, what
should we be setting aside in the Utility Fund, to make sure that that Fund is properly
financed. I asked your Consultant, Rob Ori to look at that question, and he came back
with a Report that I believe is in your package." Discussion.
Mayor Bush said to Manager McLemore, "Would it make sense to have Louise
[Frangoul] take the Consultant's Report and come back with recommendations for the
Commission to fonnalize the Fund Balance business?" Manager McLemore stated,
"Yes. "
Manager McLemore then stated, "So what we need to do is do some analysis of what our
current - Fund is - how that would play into this whole strategy and come back to you
with a set of recommendations at a future meeting, and address that issue." With further
discussion, Commissioner Martinez suggested that Manager McLemore "Bring that back
as an Informational Item on the Agenda, and if any Commissioner wants to pull it off and
deal with it as a Regular Agenda Item, we will do that." Manager McLemore added,
"What we are saying to you is if you continue to have an interest in that then we will get
back with Rob [Ori] - we need to do a little more analysis and we will come back to
you..." Mayor Bush inquired, "...Wouldn't it be prudent to formalize it though?"
Commissioner McGilmis stated, "Yes." Ms. Frangoul added, "Rob [Ori] actually did
recommend a Capital Funding Policy - that we adopt." Mayor Bush stated, "That is what
we are asking you all to do." Manager McLemore then said, "We are going to bring it
back to you if we get that direction from you tonight, in a formal Agenda Item." Mayor
Bush stated, "Okay."
Information Services Department:
Next, "Various Discussion Items" 18 - the "Cost of computers" was explained by
Manager McLemore and Ms. Dalka. Commissioner McGinnis said, "Your Report was
really good." Mayor Bush stated, "I agree with you Joanne [Dalka]." Commissioner
McGinnis added, "Okay."
The "UPS" issue was then discussed.
With discussion on power outages, Deputy Mayor Miller said, "What are they going to
come back with in September - if you would remind them, we would like to have - a
record of city wide outages." Discussion followed on the date when a presentation to the
City Commission would be made, and Deputy Mayor Miller added, "I just want to make
sure that they come with the data that we are expecting."
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Next, Manager McLemore stated, ["Various Discussion Items"] "19 has been done and a
list of salaries the Mayor wanted has been done."
"Various Discussion Items" 21 - the Landfi II Agreement was discussed next. Manager
McLemore stated, "This is going to come back to you - it is going to come back to you
with a lot of discussion, and we are going to have to make a decision of how to go and
what we think is best for our residents." Commissioner Martinez suggested, "I think that
if we can negotiate something with the County that is beneficial to the City and its
residents - but for the time being, if it convenient and favorable - and reliable, you
should stick with it." Manager McLemore added, "It is going to come back to you in
discussions, in the near future."
Regarding "Various Discussion Items" number 24 - Oak Forest Note Renegotiation, Ms.
Frangoul stated, "Bank of Anlerica is clmently working up new numbers for us to look at
renegotiating the Oak Forest Special Assessment District Note that is due in June of '05."
Manager McLemore added, "That will came back to you as an Agenda Item."
In conclusion, Mayor Bush summarized that "Outstanding Issues" "Item 1, would be the
- Manager's Recommendation of eight percent (8%) and sixty (60); item 2 has been
deleted, which is the [Computer] Laptops for the Police Department; item 6 has been
deleted, [Computer] Laptops for the Commission - everything else stays on there. So my
recommendation is that the next time that the [City] Manager presents this to the
Commission, those items are gone, and if the two (2) Commissioners that are not here,
want them back on, they will have to bring them up we will load them back on and deal
with it. Is that okay with everybody?" Commissioner McGinnis said, "Yes, it is fine."
Commissioner McGinnis added, "Good job!"
ADJOURNMENT
Mayor Bush adjourned the Workshop at 7:45 p.m.
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