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CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA
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CITY COMMISSION
REGULAR MEETING
JUNE 9, 2008
CALL TO ORDER
The Regular Meeting of Monday, June 9, 2008 of the City Commission was called to
Order by Mayor John F. Bush at 5:15 p.m. in the Commission Chambers of the
Municipal Building (City Hall, 1126 East State Road 434, Winter Springs, Florida
32708).
Roll Call:
Mayor John F. Bush, present
Deputy Mayor Donald A. Gilmore, present
Commissioner Robert S. Miller, present via telephone
Commissioner Rick Brown, present
Commissioner Sally McGinnis, arrived at 5:41 p.m.
Commissioner Joanne M. Krebs, present
City Manager Ronald W. McLemore, present
City Attorney Anthony A. Garganese, arrived at 5: 16 p.m.
A moment of silence was followed by the Pledge of Allegiance.
City Attorney Anthony A. Garganese arrived at 5: 16 p. m.
Discussion ensued on Regular Agenda Item "604".
"I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE PULL '604' FROM THE AGENDA UNTIL
THE FOLLOWING MEETING." MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MILLER. DISCUSSION.
"MAY I AMEND MY MOTION TO EXCLUDE THOSE THAT ARE
EXCLUSIVE FOR A COMMISSIONER - THEY CAN MAKE THOSE
APPOINTMENTS. I AM TALKING THOSE THAT CAN BE MADE BY ANY
COMMISSIONER OR THE MAYOR." AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION BY
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MILLER.
DISCUSSION.
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VOTE: (ON THE AMENDMENT
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: NAY
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: NAY
MAYOR BUSH: NAY
MOTION DID NOT CARRY.
VOTE: (ON THE MAIN MOTION)
COMMISSIONER MILLER: NAY
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: NAY
COMMISSIONER BROWN: NAY
MOTION DID NOT CARRY.
INFORMA TIONAL AGENDA
"MOTION FOR APPROVAL." MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE.
DISCUSSION.
MOTION DIED FOR LACK OF A SECOND.
.:..:. AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING INFORMATIONAL AGENDA
ITEMS WERE DISCUSSED NEXT, AND ANOTHER MOTION TO APPROVE
WAS HELD, AS DOCUMENTED. .:..:.
INFORMA TIONAL AGENDA
INFORMATIONAL
100. Community Development Department
Advising The City Commission Of The Status Of Various Current Planning
Projects.
Discussion ensued on item (25) related to Bart Phillips' property.
Mayor Bush asked about item (11) and the reference to "Shape Xpress", and noted this
business was no longer in the Town Center.
Mr. Randy Stevenson, ASLA, AICP, Director, Community Development Department
stated, "We will update that."
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INFORMATIONAL
101. Not Used.
IN FORMA TlONAL
102. Utility Department
Providing The City Commission With A Copy Of The Consumer Confidence Report
That Will Be Sent To All Residents.
This Agenda Item was not discussed.
INFORMATIONAL
103. Public Works Department - Stormwater Division
Providing The City Commission Information Regarding Stormwater Utility Rates
In Seminole County And The City's Stormwater Management Activities.
Discussion ensued with Mr. Brian Fields, P.E., City Engineer, Public Works Department.
Deputy Mayor Donald A. Gilmore commented on the plantings in retention ponds and
whether a homeowner is consulted when a pond is in their back yard; and suggested that
a Policy for this be implemented.
Commissioner Joanne M. Krebs stated, "We actually had a meeting with the whole
community and Brian (Fields) presented it and did a really fantastic job, as a matter of
fact. "
Further discussion.
INFORMATIONAL
104. Public Works Department
Providing The City Commission Information Regarding Seminole County's Plans
To Construct Sidewalks Along The County's Portion Of Dyson Drive From
Tuscawilla Road To The Howell Creek Bridge.
There was no discussion on this Agenda Item.
"MOTION TO APPROVE" (INFORMATIONAL AGENDA). MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER KREBS. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BROWN.
DISCUSSION.
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VOTE:
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN : AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
CONSENT AGENDA
CONSENT
200. Information Services Department
Requests Authorization To Dispose Of Surplus Assets According To The Attached
Disposition Sheets.
No discussion.
CONSENT
201. Community Development Department - Arbor Division
Recommends The City Commission Consider The Request Of Phillip And Janet
McKnight Of 120 Bombay Avenue To Have A Live Oak Tree Which Is Located On
Their Private Property Designated As A Historic Tree.
Brief discussion.
CONSENT
202. Parks And Recreation Department
Requesting City Commission Approval To Accept Checks From The Senior
Resource Fair And "Blast Out Of The Past" Events Conducted At The Winter
Springs Senior Center.
There was no discussion on this Agenda Item.
CONSENT
203. Office Of The Mayor
Requesting Approval Of Resolution Number 2008-30 Expressing Appreciation To
Damon Basco For His Service On The Board Of Trustees.
This Agenda Item was not discussed.
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CONSENT
204. Office Of The Mayor
Requesting Approval Of Resolution Number 2008-26 Expressing Appreciation To
Leo Marion For His Service On The Oak Forest Wall And Beautification District
Advisory Committee.
No discussion.
CONSENT
205. Office Of The Mayor And Office Of The City Manager And Office Of The
Public Works Department Director
Request That The City Commission Approve Resolution Number 2008-31
Recognizing The Retirement Of Public Works Department Employee Mary Anne
Willett.
There was no discussion on this Agenda Item.
.:. .:. AGENDA NOTE: CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS "206" AND "207" WERE
DISCUSSED SIMULTANEOUSLY, FOLLOWED BY THE REMAINING
CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS. .:. .:.
CONSENT AGENDA
CONSENT
206. Public Works Department
Requesting Authorization To Enter Into A Contractual Agreement .With Pegasus
Engineering To Provide Professional Engineering Services For Roadway
Improvements To Wade Street And S.R. (State Road) 419, Piggybacking Off A
Contract With The City Of Winter Garden.
Discussion ensued.
CONSENT
207. Public Works Department
Requesting Authorization To Hire Fausnight Stripe & Line, Inc. To Install
Temporary And Permanent Striping On Winter Springs Boulevard, Northern Way,
And Vistawilla Drive, By Piggybacking Off Seminole County Contract #IFB-3049-
02/GMG.
Further discussion followed on this Agenda Item.
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CONSENT
208. Public Works Department
Requesting Authorization To Hire McLane Excavating Company To Perform Pond
Dredging And Restoration Activities At Lake Willa, Piggybacking Off Seminole
County Contract #RFP-600103-06/TLR.
This Agenda Item was not discussed.
CONSENT
209. Public Works Department - Stormwater Division
Requests Approval To Execute Amendment Number 2 For A Time Extension To
The Project Agreement With The Natural Resources Conservation Service (NRCS)
For The Gee Creek Bank Stabilization Project.
No discussion.
CONSENT
210. Office Of The City Clerk
Requesting Approval Of The May 8, 2008 Public Meeting With City Staff On The
Budget Minutes.
There was no discussion on this Agenda Item.
CONSENT
211. Office Of The City Clerk
Requesting Approval Of The May 12,2008 City Commission Workshop Minutes.
This Agenda Item was not discussed.
CONSENT
212. Office Of The City Clerk
Requesting Approval Of The May 12, 2008 City Commission Regular Meeting
Minutes.
No discussion.
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CONSENT
213. Office Of The City Clerk
Requesting Approval Of The May 21, 2008 City Commission And The Seminole
County Board Of County Commissioners Workshop Minutes.
There was no discussion on this Agenda Item.
CONSENT
214. Office Of The City Clerk
Requesting Approval Of The May 21, 2008 City Commission Special Meeting
Minutes.
This Agenda Item was not discussed.
CONSENT
215. Office Of The City Clerk
Requesting Approval Of The May 27, 2008 City Commission Special Meeting
Minutes.
No discussion.
CONSENT
216. Police Department
Requests The Commission To Give Approval For The Build Out And Purchase Of
Audio Visual Equipment For The Mark A. Messeguer Community Service Center,
Vistawilla Office Center.
There was no discussion on this Agenda Item.
"MOVE FOR APPROVAL" (CONSENT AGENDA). MOTION BY DEPUTY
MAYOR GILMORE. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER KREBS.
DISCUSSION.
CITY CLERK ANDREA LORENZO-LUACES INQUIRED, "WOULD THIS
MOTION INCLUDE THE REVISED RESOLUTION [2008-31] THAT WAS
NOTED IN YOUR RED FOLDER?" COMMISSIONER BROWN STATED,
"YES." DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE ADDED, "YES." NO OBJECTIONS
WERE VOICED.
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VOTE:
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
.:..:. AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING A WARDS AND PRESENT A TIONS
"302" WAS DISCUSSED NEXT, AS DOCUMENTED. .:..:.
AWARDS AND PRESENT A TIONS
AWARDS AND PRESENTATIONS
302. Office Of The Mayor And Office Of The City Manager
Presentation By Seminole County Commissioner Michael McLean To Discuss The
SeminoleWay Program.
Commissioner Mike McLean, Seminole County, 1101 East First Street, Sanford, Florida:
addressed the City Commission.
Commissioner Sally McGinnis arrived at 5:41 p.m.
.:..:. AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING REGULAR AGENDA ITEM "601"
WAS DISCUSSED NEXT, AS DOCUMENTED. .:..:.
REGULAR AGENDA
REGULAR
601. Office Of The Mayor
Requesting The City Commission To Approve A General Fund Supplemental
Appropriation Of $8,350.00 To Fund A Strategic Economic Development Plan For
The SeminoleWay Program.
Brief discussion.
"I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL." MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER BROWN. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER KREBS.
DISCUSSION.
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VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BROWN : AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
.:..:. AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING REMAINING AWARDS AND
PRESENTATIONS WERE DISCUSSED NEXT, IN THE ORDER AS
DOCUMENTED. .:. .:.
AWARDS AND PRESENTATIONS
AWARDS AND PRESENTATIONS
300. Office Of The Mayor
Presentation Of Resolution Number 2008-20 Expressing Appreciation To Tom
Brown For His Service As A Member Of The City Of Winter Springs Planning And
Zoning BoardlLocal Planning Agency.
Mayor Bush presented Resolution Number 2008-20 in honor of former Planning and
Zoning Board/Local Planning Agency Member Tom Brown. Discussion.
A WARDS AND PRESENTATIONS
301. Office Of The Mayor And Office Of The City Manager And Office Of The
Public Works Department Director
Presentation Of Resolution Number 2008-31 Recognizing Mary Anne Willett For
Her 24 Years Of Dedicated Service As An Employee Of the City Of Winter Springs;
And Expressing Our Appreciation On Behalf Of The Citizens Of The City Of
Winter Springs.
Mayor Bush read Resolution Number 2008-31 III honor of Mary Anne Willett.
Discussion.
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.:..:. AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING REPORTS WERE DISCUSSED
NEXT, IN THE ORDER AS DOCUMENTED, FOLLOWED BY THE REST OF
THE AGENDA. .:..:.
REPORTS
REPORTS
400. Office Of The City Attorney - Anthony A. Garganese, Esquire
No Report.
REPORTS
401. Office Of The City Manager - Ronald W. McLemore
City Manager Ronald W. McLemore said, "Traditionally, we have set your Budget
delivery - your preliminary Budget for the first Meeting in July. That Meeting this year, 1
believe will be the 14th [July 2008] and 1 just want to make sure that everybody is still
okay with that?"
Commissioner Rick Brown stated, "Fine with me." Commissioner Krebs said, "1 am
fine." Commissioner McGinnis noted, "So far."
REPORTS
402. Office Of The City Clerk - Andrea Lorenzo-Luaces, CMC
No Report.
REPORTS
403. Commission Seat One - Robert S. Miller
No Report.
REPORTS
405. Commission Seat ThreelDeputy Mayor - Donald A. Gilmore
Deputy Mayor Gilmore commented on the representatives of the City who attended this
morning's Funeral for former City Commissioner Art Hoffman.
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REPORTS
406. Commission Seat Four - Sally McGinnis
Commissioner McGinnis noted that Lori Anne Lane was looking good and suggested that
Mr. Stevenson check into this.
REPORTS
407. Commission Seat Five - Joanne M. Krebs
Commissioner Krebs commented on an email from a resident who lives in the Heritage
Park community about parking issues associated with Special Events and a broken gate.
Discussion followed with Chief of Police Daniel J. Kerr who said, "We will check it out."
Commissioner Krebs then recommended that a special sign noting "Private Parking for
Heritage Park residents" be posted when needed.
Next, Commissioner Krebs asked if "No parking in yards" was being enforced. Chief
Kerr stated, "Yes." Commissioner Krebs added, "So - if residents really want to
complain, they should not call me, they should call you?" Chief Kerr remarked,
"Correct." With further discussion on a particular resident who does not comply,
Commissioner Brown said to Chief Kerr, "I will follow up with you."
REPORTS
404. Commission Seat Two - Rick Brown
Commissioner Brown mentioned his upcoming schedule.
REPORTS
408. Office Of The Mayor - John F. Bush
No Report.
PUBLIC INPUT
Mr. Jeff McCall, Fire Department: spoke on the proposed Consolidation; Budget issues;
manpower levels; Seminole County; and Pension concerns.
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Ms. Pamela Carroll, 865 Dyson Drive, Winter Springs, Florida: as the President of the
Tuscawilla Homeowner's Association, Ms. Carroll spoke about using the median of
Winter Springs Boulevard for a flag pole and referenced a letter dated January 12, 2007.
Ms. Carroll also said they planned to send out a survey to the Tuscawilla residents on this
matter.
Discussion.
Commissioner McGinnis asked Ms. Carroll, "Would it be there all the time or on special
occasions?" Mr. Carroll responded, "It would be there permanently."
"I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THIS COME BACK AS AN AGENDA
ITEM." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BROWN. SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER KREBS. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN : AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Mayor Bush said to Ms. Carroll, "You need to work with the Manager on getting that
item prepared. Get it at the next Meeting?" Manager McLemore said, "Sure."
Mr. Edward Martinez, Jr., 205 Little Creek Lane, Winter Springs, Florida: commented
on political issues; Votes; civic issues; and the Fourth of July festivities.
Mr. Mike Jones, 560 Dunmar Circle, Winter Springs, Florida: spoke on a Permit that
was submitted to the City on or about October 30, 2007 for a stockade fence for resident
Lon Miller and asked about the status.
In related discussion, Mayor Bush inquired, "Is this something that should be an Agenda
Item?" Manager McLemore said, "Absolutely." Continuing, Manager McLemore stated,
"We will review that and give you an answer."
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Mayor Bush recommended, "Let us put this on the Agenda so it is an Agenda Item."
Commissioner Robert S. Miller said, "I think we probably need to have this revisited at
the next Meeting or the Meeting after, as soon as possible." ~
Commissioner Brown inquired, "Can you commit to having something back to Mr. Jones ~
by Wednesday?" Manager McLemore responded by saying, "I will certainly try." Mr. c:. ~
Jones remarked, "Within a week?" Manager McLemore stated, "Yes." ~
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Commissioner Krebs stated, "I wanted to ask if you needed a Motion to direct the City ~J
Manager to have it back by Wednesday or..."
"...SO MOVED." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BROWN. SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER KREBS. DISCUSSION.
MAYOR BUSH SUMMARIZED THE MOTION THAT, "BY WEDNESDAY, THE
MANAGER WILL HAVE RESPONDED TO MR. JONES' QUESTION
CONCERNING THE PERMIT."
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Tape 2/Side A
Mayor Bush called a Recess at 6:21 p.m.
The Meeting was called back to Order at 6:29 p.m.
.:..:. AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING REGULAR AGENDA ITEM "602"
WAS DISCUSSED NEXT, FOLLOWED BY THE REST OF THE AGENDA. .:..:.
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REGULAR AGENDA
REGULAR
602. Rotary Club Of Winter Springs
Requesting The City To Consider Approving An Increase In Its Partnership
Participation For Construction Of The Winter Springs Veterans Memorial
$20,000.00, From $50,000.00 To $70,000.00 To Match An Additional Increase In
Participation From The Rotary Club To Complete The Memorial.
Mr. Bill Starmer, Starmer Ranaldi Planning and Architecture, Inc., 820 West Broadway
Street, Suite 3000, Oviedo, Florida: spoke on this Agenda Item.
Discussion.
Manager McLemore was asked about the funding source and stated, "It comes from the
[19]'99 Construction Fund - [19]'99 Bond Fund - that Bond Fund was set up to do
certain things and most of it has to do with the Town Center, a big portion of it and this is
trying to complete the set of proj ects that was in that - Bond Fund."
Discussion.
Commissioner Miller suggested that "I am picturing some kind of opportunity where
folks could put something into the pavement which would memorialize." Continuing,
Commissioner Miller noted that this was "Probably the way that we could be able to fund
- the way that City would be able to fund it's maintenance over the long term. So, that
for me is one alternative where we might be able to work out something."
Mr. Jim Moriarity, 1376 White Oak Drive, Winter Springs, Florida: addressed the City
Commission.
Further discussion.
Manager McLemore suggested, "What 1 would hope to do is go ahead and fund this thing
and ask Rotary to come up with a Plan by which they could provide the maintenance for
it over five years, or something like that."
"MOVE FOR APPROVAL." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS.
SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE. DISCUSSION.
MAYOR BUSH ADDED, "MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA ITEM
WHICH WOULD BE THE ADDITIONAL TWENTY THOUSAND DOLLARS
($20,000.00). "
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COMMISSIONER KREBS INQUIRED, "WOULD THAT INCLUDE WHAT
MANAGER McLEMORE SUGGESTED TO THE FIVE (5) YEAR
MAINTENANCE - TO MORE OR LESS, REPLACE THAT TWENTY
THOUSAND DOLLARS ($20,000.00)?"
MANAGER McLEMORE EXPLAINED, "I DIDN'T WANT TO MAKE IT
DOLLAR FOR DOLLAR - SOMETHING THAT SHOWS THEIR CONTINUING
INTEREST IN WILLING TO P ARTICIP ATE."
"I AMEND THE MOTION TO INCLUDE THAT." MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER KREBS. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BROWN.
DISCUSSION.
MAYOR BUSH SUMMARIZED THE AMENDMENT AS THE "MANAGER
WILL WORK WITH THE ROTARY CLUB TO COME UP WITH A FIVE (5)
YEAR..." COMMISSIONER KREBS NOTED, "...OFFSET..." MAYOR BUSH
CONTINUED, "...OFFSETTING THE COST OF THE MAINTENANCE."
MAYOR BUSH SAID TO MANAGER McLEMORE, "DO YOU WANT TO
STATE IT - BECAUSE THAT IS REALLY - THE AMENDMENT WAS TO
BACK UP WHAT YOU SAID." MANAGER McLEMORE STATED, "WHAT I
SAID WAS, I'D HOPE THE COMMISSION WOULD GO AHEAD AND FUND
GETTING IT CONSTRUCTED AND ALLOW ROTARY TO COME BACK -
BRING BACK A PROPOSAL TO PROVIDE MAINTENANCE OVER A PERIOD
OF TIME THAT WOULD BE ENOUGH GOOD WILL GESTURE TO YOU TO
ALLOW IT TO GO FORWARD. NOW, I SUGGESTED FIVE (5) YEARS, IT
COULD BE - IF YOU WANT TO BENCHMARK IT AT FIVE (5) YEARS,
BENCHMARK IT AT FIVE (5) YEARS."
VOTE: (ON THE AMENDMENT)
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: NAY
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: NAY
MOTION CARRIED.
VOTE: (ON THE MAIN MOTION, AS AMENDED)
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN : AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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Mr. Starmer stated, "In terms of the maintenance, I don't think that is going to be an
issue. We have talked about it. We have planned for it. We hope to initially set enough
money aside that we can pay for the maintenance out of the interest on that account."
Commissioner Krebs spoke of Commissioner Miller's brick suggestion and said, "We
will bring it back Bob [Miller]."
PUBLIC HEARINGS AGENDA
PUBLIC HEARINGS
500. Not Used.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
501. Not Used.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
502. Community Development Department - Planning Division
Requests The City Commission Approve Second Reading And Adoption Of
Ordinance Number 2008-05, A Text Amendment To The Code Of Ordinances That
Would Allow Detached Garages And Other Accessory Structures, Subject To
Conditions.
Attorney Garganese read the Ordinance by "Title" only.
Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
No one spoke.
Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
Discussion followed with Ms. Eloise Sahlstrom, AICP, ASLA, Senior Planner,
Community Development Department and Mr. Stevenson on structures and the
Compatibility Ordinance.
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Deputy Mayor Gilmore spoke of his concern with people being able to build kitchens in
garages. Mr. John Baker AICP, Senior Planner, Community Development Department
stated, "When we get a request for some sort of an addition, and they want to have a
bathroom and a kitchen; we say, you can't have the kitchen. You can have a toilet, but
you can't have complete living facilities." Deputy Mayor Gilmore asked, "Is that in this
Ordinance?" Mr. Baker explained, "No - but we already prohibit that."
Continuing, Mr. Baker added, "By our action based on how many dwelling units you are
going to have in a structure on a piece of property. We have been doing that for years."
Deputy Mayor Gilmore suggested he would like that written in an Ordinance.
Manager McLemore suggested that "The language be amended where it would not allow
a kitchen." Attorney Garganese noted the exception, "Private garages may be used as
living quarters or office space where permitted by this Code. That's where we started
this whole point. It is allowed in two (2) other places in the City - which implies,
nowhere else." Mr. Stevenson added, "It is allowed by Code in the 'R-3' and the 'Town
Center'." Attorney Garganese then recommended, "We could put another sentence in
there - saying that living quarters are prohibited everywhere else - and qualify it."
Further discussion.
Tape 2/Side B
Attorney Garganese said, "One alternative would be - Amend the reference to this Code
to specifically reference the Zoning District categories where this is allowed." Deputy
Mayor Gilmore noted that he would ask that this be done.
Attorney Garganese continued, "We would put the 'Town Center' and - 'R-3'."
Furthermore, Attorney Garganese noted, "You can accept Second and Final Reading with
the changes."
"MOTION TO ACCEPT - ITEM '502', WITH THE CHANGES." MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER KREBS. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BROWN.
DISCUSSION.
ATTORNEY GARGANESE THEN SAID, "WE'RE JUST GOING TO ADD A
CROSS REFERENCE TO EXISTING CODE PROVISIONS."
COMMISSIONER MILLER NOTED, "THIS DOESN'T NECESSITATE
ANOTHER READING - OKAY."
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VOTE:
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
503. Community Development Department
Requests The City Commission Approve The Second Reading And Adoption Of
Ordinance Number 2008-06, A Text Amendment To The Code Of Ordinances That
Would Modify The Existing Front Yard Fence Height Limitations Set Forth In
Section 6-190. Of The City Code To Allow Fences Up To 4'-6" In Areas Of The City
That Allow Horses, Ponies, And Commercial Riding Stables As Permitted Uses.
Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
No one spoke.
Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
Attorney Garganese read Ordinance 2008-06 by "Title" only.
Mayor Bush again opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
No one spoke.
Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
"MOTION TO APPROVE." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BROWN.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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.:..:. AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING REGULAR AGENDA ITEM '600'
WAS DISCUSSED NEXT, AND LATER IN THE MEETING, AS SHOWN ON
PAGE 24 OF THESE MINUTES. THE REST OF THE AGENDA FOLLOWS.
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600. Community Development Department - Arbor Division
Recommends The City Commission Consider The Second Request Of Joey Walters
Of 775 South Edgemon Avenue To Remove One (1) Specimen Live Oak Tree
Located In The Front Yard Of His Residence.
Attorney Garganese remarked, "The item sets forth a statement that this decision has
already been made on February 25, 2008. So, that decision is final. Unless the City
Commission determines that there are changed circumstances, I would recommend that
you just rely on that previous decision of February 25th, 2008."
"SO MOVED." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BROWN. SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
BRIEF DISCUSSION.
COMMISSIONER KREBS: NAY
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: NAY
MOTION CARRIED.
REGULAR
603. Office Of The City Clerk
Respectfully Requests That Commissioner Joanne M. Krebs Make An Appointment
To The Board Of Trustees To Fill The Seat Previously Held By Damon Basco.
"I WOULD LIKE TO APPOINT MARIA FAIR TO THE BOARD OF
TRUSTEES." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER KREBS. SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER BROWN. DISCUSSION.
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VOTE:
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
REGULAR
604. Office Of The City Clerk
Requests That Mayor John F. Bush And/Or Members Of The City Commission
(Depending On The Applicable Advisory Boards And Committees) Make
Appointments/Reappointments Related To The Terms Of Office Which Will Be
Expiring In July 2008 - Specifically Regarding Members Of The Beautification Of
Winter Springs Board; The Code Enforcement Board; And For The Terms Of
Office Which Will Be Expiring In August 2008 - Specifically Regarding Members
Of The Oak Forest Wall And Beautification District Advisory Committee.
City Clerk Lorenzo- Luaces explained that the current Board Members who are listed in
your Agenda Item, there are a few that have not yet responded. If it is your wish, I will
be glad to try to get in touch with them further. The latest contact I have had with them is
a Certified Mail letter, but I have not yet heard from a few."
Commissioner McGinnis suggested, "I would say you have made your best effort."
Commissioner McGinnis added, "You have done what you are supposed to do. I think
we need to move on with it. I take a 'No response' as 'No interest'."
Regarding Deputy Mayor Gilmore's Appointment(s), Deputy Mayor Gilmore asked,
"Bring it back." Commissioner Miller also said, "Next Meeting."
"I WOULD LIKE TO RE-APPOINT JUDY CONVERSO" TO THE OAK
FOREST WALL AND BEAUTIFICATION DISTRICT ADVISORY
COMMITTEE. MOTION BY COMMISSIONER KREBS. SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BROWN : AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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"MOTION TO - RE-APPOINT LEAH WEISMAN." MOTION BY
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COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
With discussion, it was noted that Ms. Sherri P. Moore did not want to be Reappointed to
the Code Enforcement Board.
FOR THE CODE ENFORCEMENT BOARD, "THEN I WOULD RECOMMEND
THAT DALE (KIRBY] MOVE TO A PERMANENT" [POSITION ON THE
CODE ENFORCEMENT BOARD]. MOTION BY COMMISSIONER KREBS.
MAYOR BUSH COMMENTED, "SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BROWN."
DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN : AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
"I DO HAVE A NEW PERSON THAT I WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE TO THE
CODE [ENFORCEMENT] BOARD AND THAT WOULD BE CAROLE GILTZ".
MOTION BY COMMISSIONER KREBS. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER
BROWN. DISCUSSION.
CITY CLERK LORENZO-LUACES INQUIRED, "THAT IS FOR ALTERNATE
NUMBER 1?" COMMISSIONER KREBS STATED, "ALTERNATE NUMBER
1."
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VOTE:
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN : AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
City Clerk Lorenzo-Luaces asked, "Just for clarification, in the past you did not want this
complete Agenda Item to come back. Is that your wish? Just the very basics?" City
Clerk Lorenzo-Luaces added, "I meant the additional information - all this." There were
no objections to this noted.
REGULAR
605. Office Of The City Clerk
Requesting The City Commission Consider The Information In This Agenda Item
Relative To The City Commission's Interest In Recognizing The City's Volunteers
Who Serve As Board And Committee Members.
City Clerk Lorenzo-Luaces briefly introduced this Agenda Item for discussion.
Commissioner McGinnis suggested, "I love the last one - the Brunch. It is cost effective
- we do it on a weekend." Commissioner Krebs added, "I like that idea." Additionally,
Commissioner Krebs suggested it be held at the Senior Center. Mayor Bush added, "I
think if you are going to have it, it needs to be in the Senior Center." Commissioner
McGinnis then said, "I like having it at City Hall. I think that is appropriate."
Discussion followed on whether spouses and Staff should be included?
Mayor Bush suggested that the City Commission "Approve a Brunch and then let Andrea
(Lorenzo-Luaces) and Staff work on where to locate this in an appropriate place."
Commissioner McGinnis and Deputy Mayor Gilmore stated, "That is good."
"I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE TO HAVE A BRUNCH FOR OUR
VOLUNTEERS AND LEAVE THE DETAILS ON THE LOCATION AND TO
WORK OUT THE LOGISTICS, TO STAFF." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER
McGINNIS. SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE. DISCUSSION.
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MAYOR BUSH SUMMARIZED, "THE MOTION WOULD BE TO ASK
ANDREA (LORENZO-LUACES) TO - FIND AN APPROPRIATE LOCATION
AND MENU AND SUCH, AND THEN BRING IT BACK TO THE COMMISSION
FOR APPROVAL FOR THE FOOD - MONEY TO PAY FOR IT."
CITY CLERK LORENZO-LUACES NOTED, "IF YOU WOULD LIKE, I COULD
BRING YOU BACK THE PRICES TO HAVE THE SPOUSES OR JUST YOUR
ADVISORY BOARD MEMBERS; AND LET YOU KNOW WHAT WOULD BE
INCLUDED IN THE PRICE. I WILL ALSO CHECK OUT DATES OF
AVAILABILITY FOR THE SENIOR CENTER - IS THAT WHAT YOU ARE -
MOST INTERESTED IN - AND BRING THOSE BACK FOR YOUR APPROVAL
AT THE NEXT MEETING?"
MAYOR BUSH SAID, "OKAY."
"PERFECT. "
COMMISSIONER KREBS NOTED,
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
In other City business, Mayor Bush spoke of Monthly Reports and being a waste of
paper and suggested they be instead "Scanned and made into PDF files and emailed, and
if someone has got to have a hard copy, they can print one out." Commissioner
McGinnis added, "I agree."
Mayor Bush then noted, "It is like these little things that we get, they call them
'Agendas', but basically it says that there is going to be a Meeting, you are going to be
there - does that have to be in everybody's box Andrea (Lorenzo-Luaces)?"
With further brief comments, Mayor Bush stated, "Those people that don't read their
emails, then can ask for a hard copy. But to do one for everybody just because one (1) or
two (2) don't read emails, I think is wasteful." City Clerk Lorenzo-Luaces noted, "That
is fine. Whatever your direction is - so, from now on, only email you all the Agendas."
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"I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ONLY DO WHAT THE
MAYOR SAID, AND THAT WE LIMIT THE AMOUNT OF PAPER COMING
TO THE COMMISSION AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE - AND ANY STRINGENT
FORMAT THAT CAN BE DONE ELECTRONICALLY, I THINK SHOULD."
MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BROWN.
MAYOR BUSH ADDED, "AND, ANY COMMISSIONER CAN ASK FOR A
HARD COPY." COMMISSIONER KREBS ADDED, "SURE."
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER KREBS. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
.:..:. AGENDA NOTE: REGULAR AGENDA ITEM '600' WAS DISCUSSED
AGAIN, IN ADDITION TO WHAT WAS PREVIOUSLY NOTED ON PAGE 19
OF THESE MINUTES. .:. .:.
REGULAR AGENDA
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600. Community Development Department - Arbor Division
Recommends The City Commission Consider The Second Request Of Joey Walters
Of 775 South Edgemon Avenue To Remove One (1) Specimen Live Oak Tree
Located In The Front Yard Of His Residence.
With further discussion on this Agenda Item, Attorney Garganese remarked for the
Record that, "The Applicant wasn't requesting to take the tree down. He has several
options that he is going to be working with Staff on - fix his driveway and save the tree.
So - there were no changed circumstances that warranted the City Commission's
consideration. "
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Mayor Bush adjourned the Regular Meeting at 7:40 p.m.
RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED:
ANDREA LORENZO-LUACES, CMC
CITY CLERK
APPROVED:
MAYOR JOHN F. BUSH
NOTE: These Minutes were approved at the
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CALL TO ORDER
The Regular Meeting of Monday, June 9, 2008 of the City Commission was called to
Order by Mayor John F. Bush at 5:15 p.m. in the Commission Chambers of the
Municipal Building (City Hall, 1126 East State Road 434, Winter Springs, Florida
32708).
Roll Call:
Mayor John F. Bush, present
Deputy Mayor Donald A. Gilmore, present
Commissioner Robert S. Miller, present via telephone
Commissioner Rick Brown, present
Commissioner Sally McGinnis, arrived at 5:41 p.m.
Commissioner Joanne M. Krebs, present
City Manager Ronald W. McLemore, present
City Attorney Anthony A. Garganese, arrived at 5:16 p.m.
A moment of silence was followed by the Pledge of Allegiance
City Attorney Anthony A. Garganese arrived at 5:16 p. m.
Discussion ensued on Regular Agenda Item "604".
"I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE PULL `604' FROM THE AGENDA UNTIL
THE FOLLOWING MEETING." MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MILLER. DISCUSSION.
"MAY I AMEND MY MOTION TO EXCLUDE THOSE THAT ARE
EXCLUSIVE FOR A COMMISSIONER - THEY CAN MAKE THOSE
APPOINTMENTS. I AM TALKING THOSE THAT CAN BE MADE BY ANY
COMMISSIONER OR THE MAYOR." AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION BY
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MILLER.
DISCUSSION.
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VOTE: (ON THE AMENDMENT
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: NAY
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: NAY
MAYOR BUSH: NAY
MOTION DID NOT CARRY.
VOTE: (ON THE MAIN MOTION)
COMMISSIONER MILLER: NAY
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: NAY
COMMISSIONER BROWN: NAY
MOTION DID NOT CARRY.
INFORMATIONAL AGENDA
"MOTION FOR APPROVAL." MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE.
DISCUSSION.
MOTION DIED FOR LACK OF A SECOND.
• • AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING INFORMATIONAL AGENDA
ITEMS WERE DISCUSSED NEXT, AND ANOTHER MOTION TO APPROVE
WAS HELD, AS DOCUMENTED. • •
INFORMATIONAL AGENDA
INFORMATIONAL
100. Community Development Department
Advising The City Commission Of The Status Of Various Current Planning
Proiects.
Discussion ensued on item (25) related to Bart Phillips' property.
Mayor Bush asked about item (I1) and the reference to "Shape Xpress", and noted this
business was no longer in the Town Center.
Mr. Randy Stevenson, ASLA, AICP, Director, Community Development Department
stated, "We will update that."
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INFORMATIONAL
101. Not Used.
INFORMATIONAL
102. Utility Department
Providing The City Commission With A Copy Of The Consumer Confidence Report
That Will Be Sent To All Residents.
This Agenda Item was not discussed.
INFORMATIONAL
103. Public Works Department -Stormwater Division
Providing The City Commission Information Regarding Stormwater Utility Rates
In Seminole County And The City's Stormwater Management Activities.
Discussion ensued with Mr. Brian Fields, P.E., City Engineer, Public Works Department.
Deputy Mayor Donald A. Gilmore commented on the plantings in retention ponds and
whether a homeowner is consulted when a pond is in their back yard; and suggested that
a Policy for this be implemented.
Commissioner Joanne M. Krebs stated, "We actually had a meeting with the whole
community and Brian (Fields) presented it and did a really fantastic job, as a matter of
fact."
Further discussion.
INFORMATIONAL
104. Public Works Department
Providing The City Commission Information Regarding Seminole County's Plans
To Construct Sidewalks Along The County's Portion Of Dyson Drive From
Tuscawilla Road To The Howell Creek Bridge.
There was no discussion on this Agenda Item.
"MOTION TO APPROVE" (INFORMATIONAL AGENDA). MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER KREBS. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BROWN.
DISCUSSION.
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VOTE:
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
CONSENT AGENDA
CONSENT
200. Information Services Department
Requests Authorization To Dispose Of Surplus Assets According To The Attached
Disposition Sheets.
No discussion.
CONSENT
201. Community Development Department -Arbor Division
Recommends The City Commission Consider The Request Of Phillip And Janet
McKnight Of 120 Bombay Avenue To Have A Live Oak Tree Which Is Located On
Their Private Property Designated As A Historic Tree.
Brief discussion.
CONSENT
202. Parks And Recreation Department
Requesting City Commission Approval To Accept Checks From The Senior
Resource Fair And "Blast Out Of The Past" Events Conducted At The Winter
Springs Senior Center.
There was no discussion on this Agenda Item.
CONSENT
203. Office Of The Mayor
Requesting Approval Of Resolution Number 2008-30 Expressing Appreciation To
Damon Basco For His Service On The Board Of Trustees.
This Agenda Item was not discussed.
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CONSENT
204. Office Of The Mayor
Requesting Approval Of Resolution Number 2008-26 Expressing Appreciation To
Leo Marion For His Service On The Oak Forest Wall And Beautification District
Advisory Committee.
No discussion.
CONSENT
205. Office Of The Mayor And Office Of The City Manager And Office Of The
Public Works Department Director
Request That The City Commission Approve Resolution Number 2008-31
Recognizing The Retirement Of Public Works Department Employee Mary Anne
Willett.
There was no discussion on this Agenda Item.
• • AGENDA NOTE: CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS "206" AND "207" WERE
DISCUSSED SIMULTANEOUSLY, FOLLOWED BY THE REMAINING
CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS. • •
CONSENT AGENDA
CONSENT
206. Public Works Department
Requesting Authorization To Enter Into A Contractual Agreement With Pegasus
Engineering To Provide Professional Engineering Services For Roadway
Improvements To Wade Street And S.R. (State Road) 419, Piggybacking Off A
Contract With The City Of Winter Garden.
Discussion ensued.
CONSENT
207. Public Works Department
Requesting Authorization To Hire Fausnight Stripe & Line, Inc. To Install
Temporary And Permanent Striping On Winter Springs Boulevard, Northern Way,
And Vistawilla Drive, By Piggybacking Off Seminole County Contract #IFB-3049-
02/GMG.
Further discussion followed on this Agenda Item.
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CONSENT
208. Public Works Department
Requesting Authorization To Hire McLane Excavating Company To Perform Pond
Dredging And Restoration Activities At Lake Willa, Piggybacking Off Seminole
Countv Contract #RFP-600103-06/TLR.
This Agenda Item was not discussed.
CONSENT
209. Public Works Department - Stormwater Division
Requests Approval To Execute Amendment Number 2 For A Time Extension To
The Project Agreement With The Natural Resources Conservation Service (NRCS)
For The Gee Creek Bank Stabilization Project.
No discussion.
CONSENT
210. Office Of The City Clerk
Requesting Approval Of The May 8, 2008 Public Meeting With City Staff On The
Budget Minutes.
There was no discussion on this Agenda Item.
CONSENT
211. Office Of The City Clerk
Requesting Approval Of The May 12, 2008 City Commission Workshop Minutes.
This Agenda Item was not discussed.
CONSENT
212. Office Of The City Clerk
Requesting Approval Of The May 12, 2008 City Commission Regular Meeting
Minutes.
No discussion.
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CONSENT
213. Office Of The City Clerk
Requesting Approval Of The May 21, 2008 City Commission And The Seminole
County Board Of County Commissioners Workshop Minutes.
There was no discussion on this Agenda Item.
CONSENT
214. Office Of The City Clerk
Requesting Approval Of The May 21, 2008 City Commission Special Meeting
Minutes.
This Agenda Item was not discussed.
CONSENT
215. Office Of The City Clerk
Requesting Approval Of The May 27, 2008 City Commission Special Meeting
Minutes.
No discussion.
CONSENT
216. Police Department
Requests The Commission To Give Approval For The Build Out And Purchase Of
Audio Visual Equipment For The Mark A. Messeguer Community Service Center,
Vistawilla Office Center.
There was no discussion on this Agenda Item.
"MOVE FOR APPROVAL" (CONSENT AGENDA). MOTION BY DEPUTY
MAYOR GILMORE. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER KREBS.
DISCUSSION.
CITY CLERK ANDREA LORENZO-LUACES INQUIRED, "WOULD THIS
MOTION INCLUDE THE REVISED RESOLUTION [2008-31] THAT WAS
NOTED IN YOUR RED FOLDER?" COMMISSIONER BROWN STATED,
"YES." DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE ADDED, "YES." NO OBJECTIONS
WERE VOICED.
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VOTE:
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
• • AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING AWARDS AND PRESENTATIONS
"302" WAS DISCUSSED NEXT, AS DOCUMENTED. • •
AWARDS AND PRESENTATIONS
AWARDS AND PRESENTATIONS
302. Office Of The Mayor And Office Of The City Manager
Presentation By Seminole County Commissioner Michael McLean To Discuss The
SeminoleWav Prolrram.
Commissioner Mike McLean, Seminole County, 1101 East First Street, Sanford, Florida:
addressed the City Commission.
Commissioner Sally McGinnis arrived at 5:41 p. m.
• • AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING REGULAR AGENDA ITEM "601"
WAS DISCUSSED NEXT, AS DOCUMENTED. • •
REGULAR AGENDA
REGULAR
601. Office Of The Mayor
Requesting The City Commission To Approve A General Fund Supplemental
Appropriation Of $8,350.00 To Fund A Strategic Economic Development Plan For
The SeminoleWay Program.
Brief discussion.
"I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL." MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER BROWN. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER KREBS.
DISCUSSION.
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VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
•• AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING REMAINING AWARDS AND
PRESENTATIONS WERE DISCUSSED NEXT, IN THE ORDER AS
DOCUMENTED. • •
AWARDS AND PRESENTATIONS
AWARDS AND PRESENTATIONS
300. Office Of The Mayor
Presentation Of Resolution Number 2008-20 Expressing Appreciation To Tom
Brown For His Service As A Member Of The City Of Winter Springs Planning And
Zoning Board/Local Planning Agency.
Mayor Bush presented Resolution Number 2008-20 in honor of former Planning and
Zoning Board/Local Planning Agency Member Tom Brown. Discussion.
AWARDS AND PRESENTATIONS
301. Office Of The Mayor And Office Of The City Manager And Office Of The
Public Works Department Director
Presentation Of Resolution Number 2008-31 Recognizing Mary Anne Willett For
Her 24 Years Of Dedicated Service As An Employee Of the City Of Winter Springs;
And Expressing Our Appreciation On Behalf Of The Citizens Of The City Of
Winter Springs.
Mayor Bush read Resolution Number 2008-31 in honor of Mary Anne Willett.
Discussion.
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• • AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING REPORTS WERE DISCUSSED
NEXT, IN THE ORDER AS DOCUMENTED, FOLLOWED BY THE REST OF
THE AGENDA. • •
REPORTS
REPORTS
400. Office Of The City Attorney -Anthony A. Garganese, Esquire
No Report.
REPORTS
401. Office Of The City Manager -Ronald W. McLemore
City Manager Ronald W. McLemore said, "Traditionally, we have set your Budget
delivery -your preliminary Budget for the first Meeting in July. That Meeting this year, I
believe will be the 14t" [July 2008] and I just want to make sure that everybody is still
okay with that?"
Commissioner Rick Brown stated, "Fine with me." Commissioner Krebs said, "I am
fine." Commissioner McGinnis noted, "So far."
REPORTS
402. Office Of The City Clerk -Andrea Lorenzo-Luaces, CMC
No Report.
REPORTS
403. Commission Seat One -Robert S. Miller
No Report.
REPORTS
405. Commission Seat Three/Deputy Mayor -Donald A. Gilmore
Deputy Mayor Gilmore commented on the representatives of the City who attended this
morning's Funeral for former City Commissioner Art Hoffman.
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REPORTS
406. Commission Seat Four -Sally McGinnis
Commissioner McGinnis noted that Lori Anne Lane was looking good and suggested that
Mr. Stevenson check into this.
REPORTS
407. Commission Seat Five -Joanne M. Krebs
Commissioner Krebs commented on an email from a resident who lives in the Heritage
Park community about parking issues associated with Special Events and a broken gate.
Discussion followed with Chief of Police Daniel J. Kerr who said, "We will check it out."
Commissioner Krebs then recommended that a special sign noting "Private Parking for
Heritage Park residents" be posted when needed.
Next, Commissioner Krebs asked if "No parking in yards" was being enforced. Chief
Kerr stated, "Yes." Commissioner Krebs added, "So - if residents really want to
complain, they should not call me, they should call you?" Chief Kerr remarked,
"Correct." With further discussion on a particular resident who does not comply,
Commissioner Brown said to Chief Kerr, "I will follow up with you."
REPORTS
404. Commission Seat Two -Rick Brown
Commissioner Brown mentioned his upcoming schedule.
REPORTS
408. Office Of The Mayor -John F. Bush
No Report.
PUBLIC INPUT
Mr. Jeff McCall, Fire Department: spoke on the proposed Consolidation; Budget issues;
manpower levels; Seminole County; and Pension concerns.
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Ms. Pamela Carroll, 865 Dyson Drive, Winter Springs, Florida: as the President of the
Tuscawilla Homeowner's Association, Ms. Carroll spoke about using the median of
Winter Springs Boulevard for a flag pole and referenced a letter dated January 12, 2007.
Ms. Carroll also said they planned to send out a survey to the Tuscawilla residents on this
matter.
Discussion.
Commissioner McGinnis asked Ms. Carroll, "Would it be there all the time or on special
occasions?" Mr. Carroll responded, "It would be there permanently."
"I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THIS COME BACK AS AN AGENDA
ITEM." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BROWN. SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER KREBS. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Mayor Bush said to Ms. Carroll, "You need to work with the Manager on getting that
item prepared. Get it at the next Meeting?" Manager McLemore said, "Sure."
Mr. Edward Martinez, Jr., 205 Little Creek Lane, Winter Springs, Florida: commented
on political issues; Votes; civic issues; and the Fourth of July festivities.
Mr. Mike Jones, 560 Dunmar Circle, Winter Springs, Florida: spoke on a Permit that
was submitted to the City on or about October 30, 2007 for a stockade fence for resident
Lon Miller and asked about the status.
In related discussion, Mayor Bush inquired, "Is this something that should be an Agenda
Item?" Manager McLemore said, "Absolutely." Continuing, Manager McLemore stated,
"We will review that and give you an answer."
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Mayor Bush recommended, "Let us put this on the Agenda so it is an Agenda Item."
Commissioner Robert S. Miller said, "I think we probably need to have this revisited at
the next Meeting or the Meeting after, as soon as possible."
Commissioner Brown inquired, "Can you commit to having something back to Mr. Jones
by Wednesday?" Manager McLemore responded by saying, "I will certainly try." Mr.
Jones remarked, "Within a week?" Manager McLemore stated, "Yes."
Furthermore, Commissioner McGinnis suggested that any documents given to the City
are dated.
Commissioner Krebs stated, "I wanted to ask if you needed a Motion to direct the City
Manager to have it back by Wednesday or..."
"...SO MOVED." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BROWN. SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER KREBS. DISCUSSION.
MAYOR BUSH SUMMARIZED THE MOTION THAT, "BY WEDNESDAY, THE
MANAGER WILL HAVE RESPONDED TO MR. JONES' QUESTION
CONCERNING THE PERMIT."
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Tape 2/Side A
Mayor Bush called a Recess at 6:21 p. m.
The Meeting was called back to Order at 6: 29 p. m.
•• AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING REGULAR AGENDA ITEM "602"
WAS DISCUSSED NEXT, FOLLOWED BY THE REST OF THE AGENDA. • •
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REGULAR AGENDA
REGULAR
602. Rotary Club Of Winter Springs
Requesting The City To Consider Approving An Increase In Its Partnership
Participation For Construction Of The Winter Springs Veterans Memorial
$20,000.00, From $50,000.00 To $70,000.00 To Match An Additional Increase In
Participation From The Rotary Club To Complete The Memorial.
Mr. Bill Starmer, Starmer Ranaldi Planning and Architecture, Inc., 820 West Broadway
Street, Suite 3000, Oviedo, Florida: spoke on this Agenda Item.
Discussion.
Manager McLemore was asked about the funding source and stated, "It comes from the
[ 19] `99 Construction Fund - [ 19] `99 Bond Fund -that Bond Fund was set up to do
certain things and most of it has to do with the Town Center, a big portion of it and this is
trying to complete the set of projects that was in that -Bond Fund."
Discussion.
Commissioner Miller suggested that "I am picturing some kind of opportunity where
folks could put something into the pavement which would memorialize." Continuing,
Commissioner Miller noted that this was "Probably the way that we could be able to fund
- the way that City would be able to fund it's maintenance over the long term. So, that
for me is one alternative where we might be able to work out something."
Mr. Jim Moriarity, 1376 White Oak Drive, Winter Springs, Florida: addressed the City
Commission.
Further discussion.
Manager McLemore suggested, "What I would hope to do is go ahead and fund this thing
and ask Rotary to come up with a Plan by which they could provide the maintenance for
it over five years, or something like that."
"MOVE FOR APPROVAL." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS.
SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE. DISCUSSION.
MAYOR BUSH ADDED, "MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA ITEM
WHICH WOULD BE THE ADDITIONAL TWENTY THOUSAND DOLLARS
($20,000.00)."
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COMMISSIONER KREBS INQUIRED, "WOULD THAT INCLUDE WHAT
MANAGER McLEMORE SUGGESTED TO THE FIVE (5) YEAR
MAINTENANCE - TO MORE OR LESS, REPLACE THAT TWENTY
THOUSAND DOLLARS ($20,000.00)?"
MANAGER McLEMORE EXPLAINED, "I DIDN'T WANT TO MAKE IT
DOLLAR FOR DOLLAR -SOMETHING THAT SHOWS THEIR CONTINUING
INTEREST IN WILLING TO PARTICIPATE."
"I AMEND THE MOTION TO INCLUDE THAT." MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER KREBS. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BROWN.
DISCUSSION.
MAYOR BUSH SUMMARIZED THE AMENDMENT AS THE "MANAGER
WILL WORK WITH THE ROTARY CLUB TO COME UP WITH A FIVE (5)
YEAR..." COMMISSIONER KREBS NOTED, "...OFFSET..." MAYOR BUSH
CONTINUED, "...OFFSETTING THE COST OF THE MAINTENANCE."
MAYOR BUSH SAID TO MANAGER McLEMORE, "DO YOU WANT TO
STATE IT -BECAUSE THAT IS REALLY -THE AMENDMENT WAS TO
BACK UP WHAT YOU SAID." MANAGER McLEMORE STATED, "WHAT I
SAID WAS, I'D HOPE THE COMMISSION WOULD GO AHEAD AND FUND
GETTING IT CONSTRUCTED AND ALLOW ROTARY TO COME BACK -
BRING BACK A PROPOSAL TO PROVIDE MAINTENANCE OVER A PERIOD
OF TIME THAT WOULD BE ENOUGH GOOD WILL GESTURE TO YOU TO
ALLOW IT TO GO FORWARD. NOW, I SUGGESTED FIVE (5) YEARS, IT
COULD BE - IF YOU WANT TO BENCHMARK IT AT FIVE (5) YEARS,
BENCHMARK IT AT FIVE (5) YEARS."
VOTE: (ON THE AMENDMENT)
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: NAY
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: NAY
MOTION CARRIED.
VOTE: (ON THE MAIN MOTION, AS AMENDED)
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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Mr. Starmer stated, "In terms of the maintenance, I don't think that is going to be an
issue. We have talked about it. We have planned for it. We hope to initially set enough
money aside that we can pay for the maintenance out of the interest on that account."
Commissioner Krebs spoke of Commissioner Miller's brick suggestion and said, "We
will bring it back Bob [Miller]."
PUBLIC HEARINGS AGENDA
PUBLIC HEARINGS
500. Not Used.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
501. Not Used.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
502. Community Development Department -Planning Division
Requests The City Commission Approve Second Reading And Adoption Of
Ordinance Number 2008-05, A Text Amendment To The Code Of Ordinances That
Would Allow Detached Garages And Other Accessory Structures, Subject To
Conditions.
Attorney Garganese read the Ordinance by "Title" only.
Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
No one spoke.
Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
Discussion followed with Ms. Eloise Sahlstrom, AICP, ASLA, Senior Planner,
Community Development Department and Mr. Stevenson on structures and the
Compatibility Ordinance.
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Deputy Mayor Gilmore spoke of his concern with people being able to build kitchens in
garages. Mr. John Baker AICP, Senior Planner, Community Development Department
stated, "When we get a request for some sort of an addition, and they want to have a
bathroom and a kitchen; we say, you can't have the kitchen. You can have a toilet, but
you can't have complete living facilities." Deputy Mayor Gilmore asked, "Is that in this
Ordinance?" Mr. Baker explained, "No -but we already prohibit that."
Continuing, Mr. Baker added, "By our action based on how many dwelling units you are
going to have in a structure on a piece of property. We have been doing that for years."
Deputy Mayor Gilmore suggested he would like that written in an Ordinance.
Manager McLemore suggested that "The language be amended where it would not allow
a kitchen." Attorney Garganese noted the exception, "Private garages may be used as
living quarters or office space where permitted by this Code. That's where we started
this whole point. It is allowed in two (2) other places in the City -which implies,
nowhere else." Mr. Stevenson added, "It is allowed by Code in the `R-3' and the `Town
Center'." Attorney Garganese then recommended, "We could put another sentence in
there -saying that living quarters are prohibited everywhere else -and qualify it."
Further discussion.
Tape 2/Side B
Attorney Garganese said, "One alternative would be -Amend the reference to this Code
to specifically reference the Zoning District categories where this is allowed." Deputy
Mayor Gilmore noted that he would ask that this be done.
Attorney Garganese continued, "We would put the `Town Center' and - `R-3'."
Furthermore, Attorney Garganese noted, "You can accept Second and Final Reading with
the changes."
"MOTION TO ACCEPT -ITEM `502', WITH THE CHANGES." MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER KREBS. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BROWN.
DISCUSSION.
ATTORNEY GARGANESE THEN SAID, "WE'RE JUST GOING TO ADD A
CROSS REFERENCE TO EXISTING CODE PROVISIONS."
COMMISSIONER MILLER NOTED, "THIS DOESN'T NECESSITATE
ANOTHER READING -OKAY."
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VOTE:
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
503. Community Development Department
Requests The City Commission Approve The Second Reading And Adoption Of
Ordinance Number 2008-06, A Text Amendment To The Code Of Ordinances That
Would Modify The Existing Front Yard Fence Height Limitations Set Forth In
Section 6-190. Of The City Code To Allow Fences Up To 4'-6" In Areas Of The City
That Allow Horses, Ponies, And Commercial Riding Stables As Permitted Uses.
Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
No one spoke.
Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
Attorney Garganese read Ordinance 2008-06 by "Title" only.
Mayor Bush again opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
No one spoke.
Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
"MOTION TO APPROVE." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BROWN.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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•S • AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING REGULAR AGENDA ITEM `600'
WAS DISCUSSED NEXT, AND LATER IN THE MEETING, AS SHOWN ON
PAGE 24 OF THESE MINUTES. THE REST OF THE AGENDA FOLLOWS.
.;..;.
REGULAR AGENDA
REGULAR
600. Community Development Department -Arbor Division
Recommends The City Commission Consider The Second Request Of Joey Walters
Of 775 South Edgemon Avenue To Remove One (1) Specimen Live Oak Tree
Located In The Front Yard Of His Residence.
Attorney Garganese remarked, "The item sets forth a statement that this decision has
already been made on February 25, 2008. So, that decision is final. Unless the City
Commission determines that there are changed circumstances, I would recommend that
you just rely on that previous decision of February 25th, 2008."
"SO MOVED." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BROWN. SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
BRIEF DISCUSSION.
COMMISSIONER KREBS: NAY
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: NAY
MOTION CARRIED.
REGULAR
603. Office Of The City Clerk
Respectfully Requests That Commissioner Joanne M. Krebs Make An Appointment
To The Board Of Trustees To Fill The Seat Previously Held By Damon Basco.
"I WOULD LIKE TO APPOINT MARIA FAIR TO THE BOARD OF
TRUSTEES." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER KREBS. SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER BROWN. DISCUSSION.
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VOTE:
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
REGULAR
604. Office Of The City Clerk
Requests That Mayor John F. Bush And/Or Members Of The City Commission
(Depending On The Applicable Advisory Boards And Committees) Make
Appointments/Reappointments Related To The Terms Of Office Which Will Be
Expiring In July 2008 -Specifically Regarding Members Of The Beautification Of
Winter Springs Board; The Code Enforcement Board; And For The Terms Of
Office Which Will Be Expiring In August 2008 -Specifically Regarding Members
Of The Oak Forest Wall And Beautification District Advisory Committee.
City Clerk Lorenzo-Luaces explained that the current Board Members who are listed in
your Agenda Item, there are a few that have not yet responded. If it is your wish, I will
be glad to try to get in touch with them further. The latest contact I have had with them is
a Certified Mail letter, but I have not yet heard from a few."
Commissioner McGinnis suggested, "I would say you have made your best effort."
Commissioner McGinnis added, "You have done what you are supposed to do. I think
we need to move on with it. I take a `No response' as `No interest'."
Regarding Deputy Mayor Gilmore's Appointment(s), Deputy Mayor Gilmore asked,
"Bring it back." Commissioner Miller also said, "Next Meeting."
"I WOULD LIKE TO RE-APPOINT JUDY CONVERSO" TO THE OAK
FOREST WALL AND BEAUTIFICATION DISTRICT ADVISORY
COMMITTEE. MOTION BY COMMISSIONER KREBS. SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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Mayor Bush stated, "Code Enforcement - I will recommend Leah Weisman."
"MOTION TO - RE-APPOINT LEAH WEISMAN." MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER KREBS. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS.
DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
With discussion, it was noted that Ms. Sherri P. Moore did not want to be Reappointed to
the Code Enforcement Board.
FOR THE CODE ENFORCEMENT BOARD, "THEN I WOULD RECOMMEND
THAT DALE (KIRBY] MOVE TO A PERMANENT" [POSITION ON THE
CODE ENFORCEMENT BOARD]. MOTION BY COMMISSIONER KREBS.
MAYOR BUSH COMMENTED, "SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BROWN."
DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
~~I DO HAVE A NEW PERSON THAT I WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE TO THE
CODE [ENFORCEMENT] BOARD AND THAT WOULD BE CAROLE GILTZ".
MOTION BY COMMISSIONER KREBS. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER
BROWN. DISCUSSION.
CITY CLERK LORENZO-LUACES INQUIRED, "THAT IS FOR ALTERNATE
NUMBER 1?" COMMISSIONER KREBS STATED, "ALTERNATE NUMBER
1."
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VOTE:
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
City Clerk Lorenzo-Luaces asked, "Just for clarification, in the past you did not want this
complete Agenda Item to come back. Is that your wish? Just the very basics?" City
Clerk Lorenzo-Luaces added, "I meant the additional information -all this." There were
no objections to this noted.
REGULAR
605. Office Of The City Clerk
Requesting The City Commission Consider The Information In This Agenda Item
Relative To The City Commission's Interest In Recognizing The City's Volunteers
Who Serve As Board And Committee Members.
City Clerk Lorenzo-Luaces briefly introduced this Agenda Item for discussion.
Commissioner McGinnis suggested, "I love the last one -the Brunch. It is cost effective
- we do it on a weekend." Commissioner Krebs added, "I like that idea." Additionally,
Commissioner Krebs suggested it be held at the Senior Center. Mayor Bush added, "I
think if you are going to have it, it needs to be in the Senior Center." Commissioner
McGinnis then said, "I like having it at City Hall. I think that is appropriate."
Discussion followed on whether spouses and Staff should be included?
Mayor Bush suggested that the City Commission "Approve a Brunch and then let Andrea
(Lorenzo-Luaces) and Staff work on where to locate this in an appropriate place."
Commissioner McGinnis and Deputy Mayor Gilmore stated, "That is good."
"I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE TO HAVE A BRUNCH FOR OUR
VOLUNTEERS AND LEAVE THE DETAILS ON THE LOCATION AND TO
WORK OUT THE LOGISTICS, TO STAFF." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER
McGINNIS. SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE. DISCUSSION.
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MAYOR BUSH SUMMARIZED, "THE MOTION WOULD BE TO ASK
ANDREA (LORENZO-LUACES) TO -FIND AN APPROPRIATE LOCATION
AND MENU AND SUCH, AND THEN BRING IT BACK TO THE COMMISSION
FOR APPROVAL FOR THE FOOD -MONEY TO PAY FOR IT."
CITY CLERK LORENZO-LUACES NOTED, "IF YOU WOULD LIKE, I COULD
BRING YOU BACK THE PRICES TO HAVE THE SPOUSES OR JUST YOUR
ADVISORY BOARD MEMBERS; AND LET YOU KNOW WHAT WOULD BE
INCLUDED IN THE PRICE. I WILL ALSO CHECK OUT DATES OF
AVAILABILITY FOR THE SENIOR CENTER - IS THAT WHAT YOU ARE -
MOST INTERESTED IN -AND BRING THOSE BACK FOR YOUR APPROVAL
AT THE NEXT MEETING?"
MAYOR BUSH SAID, "OKAY." COMMISSIONER KREBS NOTED,
"PERFECT."
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
In other City business, Mayor Bush spoke of Monthly Reports and being a waste of
paper and suggested they be instead "Scanned and made into PDF files and emailed, and
if someone has got to have a hard copy, they can print one out." Commissioner
McGinnis added, "I agree."
Mayor Bush then noted, "It is like these little things that we get, they call them
`Agendas', but basically it says that there is going to be a Meeting, you are going to be
there -does that have to be in everybody's box Andrea (Lorenzo-Luaces)?"
With further brief comments, Mayor Bush stated, "Those people that don't read their
emails, then can ask for a hard copy. But to do one for everybody just because one (1) or
two (2) don't read emails, I think is wasteful." City Clerk Lorenzo-Luaces noted, "That
is fine. Whatever your direction is - so, from now on, only email you all the Agendas."
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"I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ONLY DO WHAT THE
MAYOR SAID, AND THAT WE LIMIT THE AMOUNT OF PAPER COMING
TO THE COMMISSION AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE -AND ANY STRINGENT
FORMAT THAT CAN BE DONE ELECTRONICALLY, ITHINK SHOULD."
MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BROWN.
MAYOR BUSH ADDED, "AND, ANY COMMISSIONER CAN ASK FOR A
HARD COPY." COMMISSIONER KREBS ADDED, "SURE."
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER KREBS. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER KREBS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
• • AGENDA NOTE: REGULAR AGENDA ITEM `600' WAS DISCUSSED
AGAIN, IN ADDITION TO WHAT WAS PREVIOUSLY NOTED ON PAGE 19
OF THESE MINUTES. • •
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600. Community Development Department -Arbor Division
Recommends The City Commission Consider The Second Request Of Joey Walters
Of 775 South Edgemon Avenue To Remove One (1) Specimen Live Oak Tree
Located In The Front Yard Of His Residence.
With further discussion on this Agenda Item, Attorney Garganese remarked for the
Record that, "The Applicant wasn't requesting to take the tree down. He has several
options that he is going to be working with Staff on -fix his driveway and save the tree.
So -there were no changed circumstances that warranted the City Commission's
consideration."
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ADJOURNMENT
Mayor Bush adjourned the Regular Meeting at 7:40 p.m.
RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED:
LUACES, CMC
CITY CLERK
APPROVED:
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MAY JOIN F. BUSH
NOTE: These Minutes were approved at the June 23, 2008 Regular City Commission Meeting.