HomeMy WebLinkAbout2008 06 09 Consent 211 Approval of the May 12, 2008 City Commission Workshop Minutes
CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA
MINUTES
CITY COMMISSION
WORKSHOP
MAY 12,2008
CALL TO ORDER
The Workshop of Monday, May 12,2008 ofthe City Commission was called to Order by
Mayor John F. Bush at 3:00 p.m. in the Commission Chambers of the Municipal Building
(City Hall, 1126 East State Road 434, Winter Springs, Florida 32708).
Roll Call:
Mayor John F. Bush, present
Deputy Mayor Donald A. Gilmore, present
Commissioner Robert S. Miller, arrived at 3:03 p.m.
Commissioner Rick Brown, present
Commissioner Sally McGinnis, present
Commissioner Joanne M. Krebs, absent
City Manager Ronald W. McLemore, arrived at 3:03 p.m.
City Attorney Anthony A. Garganese, absent
PUBLIC INPUT
No one spoke.
INFORMATIONAL AGENDA
INFORMATIONAL
100. Office Of The City Manager
Discussion Of Proposed Fiscal Year 2008 Budget Reductions.
With discussion on the SBA (State Board Of Administration) Fund, Ms. Michelle Greco,
Director, Finance Department stated, "Every Monday, you will get that balance."
Further brief discussion.
Commissioner Robert S. Miller arrived at 3:03 p.m.
City Manager Ronald W McLemore arrived at 3:03 p.m.
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Mr. Kevin Smith, Director, General Services Director distributed a PowerPoint
presentation.
Mayor Bush asked about the Senior Center's Therapy Pool and the current part-time
employee. Manager McLemore stated, "The part-time position that is there now - there
is such demand that they really need a full-time person to be able to keep up with the
demand for service."
Manager McLemore continued with his discussion points and stated, "When you look at
that whole list of things, events for next year as part of your budget process - you can
have larger impacts than what we have here for the balance ofthis year."
Commissioner Rick Brown asked, "So, we couldn't in essence replace anything we
pulled from Reserves this year, but the cuts we will make going into next year." Manager
McLemore stated, "Yes, if I understand your question. Yes."
Discussion.
On Park issues, Mr. Chuck Pula, Director, Parks and Recreation Department stated, "The
Trotwood project has to be totally completed by April of 2009." Manager McLemore
commented on Impact Fees to fund projects and asked, "Do you want to keep it alive or
do you want to say cut it?"
The Bear Creek Bridge project was discussed next.
Discussion continued on the Splash Pad and fees for usage.
With additional comments on Senior Center Therapy Pool, Commissioner Sally
McGinnis asked about usage and inquired if it is being used by the same people all the
time.
Discussion followed on costs associated with the Splash Pad. Commissioner Miller
spoke for the Record on per head break-even attendance costs.
Mayor Bush stated, "So, you are really recommending that the Splash Pads be revenue
neutral in terms of their operation costs..." Commissioner Miller said, "...Well, I just
don't want to see it cancelled for the wrong reason." Continuing, Mayor Bush added,
".. . Trotwood [Park] and Torcaso [Park]." Commissioner McGinnis said, "I agree."
Discussion.
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On the Dog Park, Manager McLemore noted that the amount should be changed to one
hundred ninety thousand dollars ($190,000.00).
With further discussion on the Dog Park, Mr. Pula noted that it needs to be completed by
April 2011.
Tape I/Side B
Torcaso Park was referenced next and Commissioner Miller suggested that the Public
Works area be turned into a park.
Mayor Bush said to Manager McLemore, "The Trotwood Splash Pad, that two hundred
thousand [dollars] ($200,000.00) - that is out ofthe General Fund." Manager McLemore
stated, "I don't have the Budget in front of me but it was intended to be paid out of Park
Impact Fees. There are not sufficient Park Impact Fees to meet that match. Therefore,
you either have to take it out of General Fund Reserves or don't do it." Mayor Bush
inquired, "Can the Impact Fees pay the General Fund back, at a later date?" Manager
McLemore responded by saying, "At a later date, they can." Mayor Bush then asked,
"Can they pay it back with interest?" Manager McLemore noted, "They can."
Mayor Bush said, "I sense that on the Dog Park - just postpone it because we are not up
against a deadline?" Commissioner McGinnis stated, "Right. The deadline is way off."
Discussion followed on Beautification Grants, Police Department, and Code Enforcement
Board funding.
Deputy Mayor Donald A. Gilmore referenced some problem areas in Tuscawilla and
asked that such be taken care of.
Discussion followed with Captain Glenn Tolleson, Police Department.
Manager McLemore commented on the options to handle problems with properties and
stated, "If you go through the Code Enforcement cycle, you get into that cycle; if he is
going to do it as an infraction, then you have a different - procedure."
Fire Department Funds were discussed next.
Tape 2/Side A
With further comments on purchasing a new Fire Truck, Manager McLemore said, "I
would recommend you just go buy the thing from Impact Fees."
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Mayor Bush responded, "But we have - enough money in Fire Impact Fees to buy this
truck?" Manager McLemore said, "If you combine the portion that was supposed to be
bought out of the Transportation Transport Fund, you can take three hundred thousand
dollars ($300,000.00) out of that nine hundred thousand dollars ($900,000.00); combine
those two (2) and buy your truck."
Discussion.
Commissioner Brown asked that if we replace a Fire Truck, can the unit that is replaced
still be used as a back-up? Acting Fire Chief Dave O'Brien Fire Department stated,
"Yes."
Mayor Bush noted, "I think the Commission can bring this up in the Regular Meeting
about the Fire Truck."
Community assistance was discussed next.
Discussion.
Votes related to Millage Rates were discussed next; to which Commissioner Brown
suggested that such Votes be done early.
Possible options related to the Fire Department were discussed next.
Commissioner McGinnis suggested that Manager McLemore explain how the Fire
Assessment came about at the upcoming Regular Meeting. Mayor Bush stated,
"Commissioners, you want him to do that tonight? There were no comments for or
against a Consensus.
With further discussion, Manager McLemore asked, "What do you want me to do?"
Mayor Bush stated, "I think the Consensus is that you don't do anything with this tonight
unless the Commission changes their mind."
Tape 2/Side B
Discussion ensued on Reserve funds.
Commissioner Miller departed the Workshop at 4:52 p.m.
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ADJOURNMENT
Mayor Bush adjourned the Workshop at 4:53 p.m.
RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED:
JOAN L. BROWN, DEPUTY CITY CLERK AND
ANDREA LORENZO-LUACES, CMC
CITY CLERK
APPROVED:
MAYOR JOHN F. BUSH
NOTE: These Minutes were approved at the
Regular City Commission Meeting.
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CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA
MINUTES
CITY COMMISSION
WORKSHOP
MAY 12, 2008
CALL TO ORDER
The Workshop of Monday, May 12, 2008 of the City Commission was called to Order by
Mayor John F. Bush at 3:00 p.m. in the Commission Chambers of the Municipal Building
(City Hall, 1126 East State Road 434, Winter Springs, Florida 32708).
Roll Call:
Mayor John F. Bush, present
Deputy Mayor Donald A. Gilmore, present
Commissioner Robert S. Miller, arrived at 3:03 p.m.
Commissioner Rick Brown, present
Commissioner Sally McGinnis, present
Commissioner Joanne M. Krebs, absent
City Manager Ronald W. McLemore, arrived at 3:03 p.m.
City Attorney Anthony A. Garganese, absent
PUBLIC INPUT
No one spoke.
INFORMATIONAL AGENDA
INFORMATIONAL
100. Office Of The City Manager
Discussion Of Proposed Fiscal Year 2008 Budget Reductions.
With discussion on the SBA (State Board Of Administration) Fund, Ms. Michelle Greco,
Director, Finance Department stated, "Every Monday, you will get that balance."
Further brief discussion.
Commissioner Robert S. Miller arrived at 3:03 p.m.
City Manager Ronald W. McLemore arrived at 3:03 p. m.
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WORKSHOP -MAY 12, 2008
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Mr. Kevin Smith, Director, General Services Director distributed a PowerPoint
presentation.
Mayor Bush asked about the Senior Center's Therapy Pool and the current part-time
employee. Manager McLemore stated, "The part-time position that is there now -there
is such demand that they really need afull-time person to be able to keep up with the
demand for service."
Manager McLemore continued with his discussion points and stated, "When you look at
that whole list of things, events for next year as part of your budget process -you can
have larger impacts than what we have here for the balance of this year."
Commissioner Rick Brown asked, "So, we couldn't in essence replace anything we
pulled from Reserves this year, but the cuts we will make going into next year." Manager
McLemore stated, "Yes, if I understand your question. Yes."
Discussion.
On Park issues, Mr. Chuck Pula, Director, Parks and Recreation Department stated, "The
Trotwood project has to be totally completed by April of 2009." Manager McLemore
commented on Impact Fees to fund projects and asked, "Do you want to keep it alive or
do you want to say cut it?"
The Bear Creek Bridge project was discussed next.
Discussion continued on the Splash Pad and fees for usage.
With additional comments on Senior Center Therapy Pool, Commissioner Sally
McGinnis asked about usage and inquired if it is being used by the same people all the
time.
Discussion followed on costs associated with the Splash Pad. Commissioner Miller
spoke for the Record on per head break-even attendance costs.
Mayor Bush stated, "So, you are really recommending that the Splash Pads be revenue
neutral in terms of their operation costs..." Commissioner Miller said, "...Well, I just
don't want to see it cancelled for the wrong reason." Continuing, Mayor Bush added,
"...Trotwood [Park] and Torcaso [Park]." Commissioner McGinnis said, "I agree."
Discussion.
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On the Dog Park, Manager McLemore noted that the amount should be changed to one
hundred ninety thousand dollars ($190,000.00).
With further discussion on the Dog Park, Mr. Pula noted that it needs to be completed by
Apri12011.
Tape 1/Side B
Torcaso Park was referenced next and Commissioner Miller suggested that the Public
Works area be turned into a park.
Mayor Bush said to Manager McLemore, "The Trotwood Splash Pad, that two hundred
thousand [dollars] ($200,000.00) -that is out of the General Fund." Manager McLemore
stated, "I don't have the Budget in front of me but it was intended to be paid out of Park
Impact Fees. There are not sufficient Park Impact Fees to meet that match. Therefore,
you either have to take it out of General Fund Reserves or don't do it." Mayor Bush
inquired, "Can the Impact Fees pay the General Fund back, at a later date?" Manager
McLemore responded by saying, "At a later date, they can." Mayor Bush then asked,
"Can they pay it back with interest?" Manager McLemore noted, "They can."
Mayor Bush said, "I sense that on the Dog Park -just postpone it because we are not up
against a deadline?" Commissioner McGinnis stated, "Right. The deadline is way off."
Discussion followed on Beautification Grants, Police Department, and Code Enforcement
Board funding.
Deputy Mayor Donald A. Gilmore referenced some problem areas in Tuscawilla and
asked that such be taken care of.
Discussion followed with Captain Glenn Tolleson, Police Deparhnent.
Manager McLemore commented on the options to handle problems with properties and
stated, "If you go through the Code Enforcement cycle, you get into that cycle; if he is
going to do it as an infraction, then you have adifferent -procedure."
Fire Department Funds were discussed next.
Tape 2/Side A
With further comments on purchasing a new Fire Truck, Manager McLemore said, "I
would recommend you just go buy the thing from Impact Fees."
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WORKSHOP -MAY 12, 2008
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Mayor Bush responded, "But we have -enough money in Fire Impact Fees to buy this
truck?" Manager McLemore said, "If you combine the portion that was supposed to be
bought out of the Transportation Transport Fund, you can take three hundred thousand
dollars ($300,000.00) out of that nine hundred thousand dollars ($900,000.00); combine
those two (2) and buy your truck."
Discussion.
Commissioner Brown asked that if we replace a Fire Truck, can the unit that is replaced
still be used as a back-up? Acting Fire Chief Dave O'Brien Fire Department stated,
"Yes."
Mayor Bush noted, "I think the Commission can bring this up in the Regular Meeting
about the Fire Truck."
Community assistance was discussed next.
Discussion.
Votes related to Millage Rates were discussed next; to which Commissioner Brown
suggested that such Votes be done early.
Possible options related to the Fire Department were discussed next.
Commissioner McGinnis suggested that Manager McLemore explain how the Fire
Assessment came about at the upcoming Regular Meeting. Mayor Bush stated,
"Commissioners, you want him to do that tonight? There were no comments for or
against a Consensus.
With further discussion, Manager McLemore asked, "What do you want me to do?"
Mayor Bush stated, "I think the Consensus is that you don't do anything with this tonight
unless the Commission changes their mind."
Tape 2/Side B
Discussion ensued on Reserve funds.
Commissioner Miller departed the Workshop at 4:52 p. m.
C[TY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA
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CITY COMMISSION
WORKSHOP -MAY 12, 2008
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ADJOURNMENT
Mayor Bush adjourned the Workshop at 4:53 p.m.
RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED:
JOAN L. BROWN, DEPUTY CITY CLERK AND
n^
AN A LORENZO-LUACES, CMC
CIT' CLERK
A PPR~OVED:
NI `R JOi-~~; F. BUSH
NOTE: These Minutes were approved at the June 9, 2008 Regular City Commission Meeting.