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SUMMARY
NEGOTIA TING TEAM
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Attendance: Those in attendance on the City's negotiating team included City
commissioners Cindy Gennell and Edward Martinez and Deputy Mayor David McLeod,
City Manager Ron McLemore, Community Development Director Charles Carrington,
Sr., Current Planning Coordinator John Baker, an the City's consultant, Victor Dover
(Dover, Kohl & Partners). The developer's team consisted of Sh~me Doran (James
Doran CO.), Charles Carrington, Jr. (Greenberg Traurig), and Sandy Logan (LS3P).
Introduction: Deputy Mayor David McLeod introduced himself and had everyone in the
room introduce himself/herself.
Discussion: Discussion ensued regarding concerns about the liner building or real
streetscape along SR 434 and the ramifications of the current phasing plan. Victor
Dover stated that there is nothing to guarantee that Phase IB or subsequent phases are
built, although the City must spend substantially for the right-of-way improvements. He
spoke of the need to have a functional SR 434 streetscape with real windows with "curb-
appeal" - where people would have a reason to walk, want to walk, and would feel safe
doing so.
Shane Doran stated that Publix has made several concessions for this site but is not
very adaptable to changing their prototype. The notion of "mirroring" (as suggested by
Deputy Mayor McLeod) to place the freezers/coolers on the north wall instead of the
south wall, to allow for real windows onto the SR 434 frontage, was totally rejected. He
stated that Publix would not allow a liner building and particularly would not allow the
second floor of a liner building to have windows opening onto or overlooking their rooftop
or extending over their first floor. He further stated that diagonal parking along the
frontage roadway was Important to and had been promised to Publix. Therefore, the
idea of giving up the diagonal parking in Phase IA for parallel parking was unacceptabl,e.
Lending and leasing agreements are currently in place,based on the modified
development agreement's phasing (it would be cumbersome to re-negotiate all of these
agreements).
Deputy Mayor McLeod expressed his dissatisfaction with the proposed spandrel glass,
encouraging the development team to provide other alternatives. A discussion ensued
regarding the spacing, depth, and functionality of the proposed bay windows along the
SR 434 side of Publix.
The developer's team expressed a desire to have a 20 percent transportation impact fee
reduction. They expressed concern that the City had not supported their request to
Seminole County for a reduction. Deputy Mayor McLeod inquired as to what quid pro
quo could be negotiated. The developer's team stated that they felt they were entitled to
the reduction. A question arose from City Staff of what percentages of residential, office,
and commercial to use (to calculate a rate of internal capture for the overall Town
Center). Current Planning Coordinator John Baker inquired as to whether or not the
development team had coordinated the methodology with the City's traffic consultant
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before beginning a traffic study. He further questioned how any final traffic issues could
be addressed until a study is provided (consistent with that methodology) and reviewed
by the City's consultant (at the developer's expense). The developer's team did not
respond.
Both teams agreed that the primary issues that had been identified were as follows:
JDC Calhoun, Inc. - bay windows,
- full access median cut at SR 434 and the north-south extension
road, and
- transportation impact fee credits (both cou~ty & City).
The City - the publix SR 434 streetscape and
- a Phase IB development guarantee.
Both teams discussed the items of general consensus. These included the following:
Liner Buildinqs:
The third phase of the conceptual site plan, as attached to the original Development
Agreement, shall include, as a mandatory component of the third phase. a liner building
or liner buildings along the SR 434 grocery anchor fayade. The developer shall be
entitled to develop the liner building(s) with retail, office, or multi-family uses.
The design of the liner building(s) shall be in substantial conformity with the liner building
sketch presented by the developer and shall comply with the Town Center Code.
The aggregate square footage of the upper and lower gross leasable area shall be not
less than . square feet. The developer's team is to come to the 8/20/01 City
Commission meeting with this number.
Prior to the construction of the liner building(s), parking in front of the SR 434 Publix
storefront shall be diagonal parking. Upon construction of the liner building(s), as part of
Phase III, such parking shall be converted from diagonal to parallel parking.
The developer shall "stub out" all major utilities, including water, sewer, power,
telephone, and fiber-optic cable, using lines, pipes, and chases, as appropriate, to meet
code requirements, sized to accommodate the liner buildings and the uses described
above.
SR 434 Publix Storefront:
Awnings shall not extend less than 6 feet from the building to over the sidewalk.
The bay windows shall be transparent glass, be lighted, and have a power source (for
displays that may need power).
The code requires, in order to provide a clear view of merchandise and to provide
natural surveillance of street spaces, that the ground-floor along the building frontage
shall have transparent storefront windows covering no less than 50% of the wall area.
The development team proposes transparent bay windows and alternating opaque non-
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transparent spandrel glass windows. Discussion ensued on the total glass area
potentially being less than the requisite 50%.
Each bay "segment" of the SR 434 Publix storefront shall have varying parapet heights
and/or designs, as well as color.
Shutters are required by code to be operable. The development team proposes the
shutters for the upper level to be inoperable. They will be mounted flush with the wall
and surrounded with a perimeter trim, to at least appear functional.
The development team proposes that the spandrel glass be substantially consistent with
the sample they presented to the City's team. ,.
The City's team encouraged the development team to consider alternatives to the
spandrel glass storefronts.
Alternate Traffic Impact Fee:
The development team is seeking a 20% traffic impact fee reduction from both Seminole
County and the City and requests the City's support. The development team's traffic
consultants must coordinate a methodology with the City's traffic consultant (CPH) for
several traffic issues. The development team must pay for CPH to review the study,
after the methodology is agreed to and the study is conducted. The traffic study may
need to be modified slightly to make it acceptable to the City and its consultant. The City
team agreed to investigate the possibility of supporting the reduction, based on the study
results (the code provides an option to address impact fee credits through a
development agreement).
Variances:
It was agreed that the development team's proposal requires variances from the code.
Variance requests must be specifically identified and listed and must be clearly approved
by the City Commission, at a public hearing, to become effective (the code provides for
variations from the code to be specified in and granted through a development
agreement).
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