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I. ROLL CALL
The Workshop of the City Commission was called to order by Mayor Paul P. Partyka at
6:33 p.m. in the Commission Chambers of the Municipal Building (City Hall, 1126 East
State Road 434, Winter Springs, Florida 32708).
Mayor Paul P. Partyka, present
Deputy Mayor Cindy Gennell, absent
Commissioner Robert S. Miller, present
Commissioner Michael S. Blake, present
Commissioner Edward Martinez, Jr., present
Commissioner David McLeod, present
City Manager Ronald W. McLemore, present
Law Firm of Frank Kruppenbacher, P.A., Attorney Robert Guthrie, present
Interim City Clerk Andrea Lorenzo-Luaces, present
II. DISCUSSION OF THE TOWN CENTER DISTRICT CODE
WITH AFFECTED PROPERTY OWNERS AND THEIR
REPRESENTATIVES.
Mayor Partyka stated that before the Workshop starts, he had an issue that he needed the
Commission's consensus on, and explained that Mayor Larry Dale of Sanford had
requested that Mayor Dale, Sanford's City Manager and the Director of the
Sanford/Orlando Airport address our City Commission, beginning at 6:00 p.m., on March
22, 1999, (prior to the Regular Meeting of the City Commission). After discussion of this
matter, the Commission agreed to schedule the presentation on the date and time that
Mayor Partyka had just mentioned.
Mayor Partyka informed those present that the Workshop will begin with comments from
City Manager Ronald W. McLemore; then there will be time for the Property Owners and
their Representatives to speak; and then he will turn the meeting over to Dover Kohl and
Partners.
Manager McLemore stated that the goal for this meeting was to complete discussion on
the Code and Code revisions, "With the idea that we move from this meeting to the
March 8th" Regular Meeting for the first reading". Manager McLemore informed the
Commission that he had received a proposed "Developer's Agreement" from Mr.
Schrimsher and his Representatives, and that the details of the Agreement could be
worked on between the first and second reading of the Ordinance. He also mentioned
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that several points had been discovered upon review of the Ordinance and that these
points will need to be settled at this meeting. In addition, Attorney Robert Guthrie had
also raised several issues that he felt should be addressed.
Mr. Michael Grindstaff, Shutts and Bowen L.L..P., Attorney for Schrimsher Properties:
mentioned that City Staff and the design firm of Michael and Associates had been given
information regarding the environmental jurisdiction lines "last March or May".
There was brief discussion of documents the City had been provided, along with the
proposed Agreement from the Schrimsher organization.
Mr. Victor Dover, AICP, Principal, Dover Kohl and Partners, passed out revisions to the
Code and stated that he intended to review a "short list of additional redlines". Before
doing so, Mr. Dover mentioned a couple of printing errors:
· On page 7, under Section B: Alleys, the sentence in the second paragraph should
have the words "aisles and/or fire lines" added to the end of the sentence.
· On page 9, under Section I: Diversity of Building Width, the strike out over the
word "three" should be over the word "Lot" above it.
Mr. Dover then said that the Code had been reviewed after making the changes from
previous meetings, and "That, as a result of the effort to make it more flexible, are
making it harder for people to know what they should do; and making it harder for the
DRC, the Development Review Committee, given the wiele latitude that body will have,
to know when they are acting in the interest of the Ordinance and when they are not".
Mr. Dover further stated that a number of the redlines deal with "intent language" which
outlined what the Code is trying to accomplish in clearer terms. The changes he
recommended are:
· On page 1: under Section I.; Intent; language had been removed and new
language added to assist in the "judgement calls that will be left to the discretion
of City Officials, specifically the Development Review Committee".
· On page 9: under Section H.; Large Footprint Buildings; paragraphs Hb and Hd
have been revised. Mr. Dover mentioned that the language that was contained in
paragraph Hd in now on pages 7 and 8, under General Provisions. Discussion.
· On page 10: under Section VI.; Squares, Parks and, Street Types; Paragraph 1;
language was added for clarification regarding the front of the buildings facing
the "public realm". There was discussion about adding language to explain that
the street names in the Code are "generic" and that the streets had not officially
been named yet.
· On page 10: under Section VI.; Squares, Parks and, Street Types; Paragraph 4; a
discrepancy was corrected, and clarified, regarding approval by the City
Commission and the Development Review Committee.
Mr. Charles C. Carrington, AICP, Community Development Director suggested that the
Code be reviewed page by page. Mayor Partyka stated that he will go page by page and
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ask if there are any questions from the Commission and Property Owners. (The
following pages listed are the only pages that involved discussion).
Page 2: The accuracy of the map was discussed.
Tape I1Side B
Additional discussion involved the boundary lines for the Town Center District; letter
"A"; the review process; and the zoning ofthe areas within the Town Center District.
Mr. Ed Leerdam, Springs Landing, LTD./Jessup Shores Joint Venture: spoke about the
zoning of the Springs Landing, LTD.lJessup Shores Joint Venture property.
Page 3: Mr. Grindstaff spoke about the special exception procedures and how it relates to
the proposed Agreement they have submitted.
Mr. Dover then addressed Special Exceptions and Agreements. He further stated that in
"The Ordinance that adopts a Development Agreement you can also pass special
exceptions, but the special exceptions should be subject to the same scrutiny spelled out
in here".
Page 4: Discussion involved liner buildings; additional language; and parking garages.
Pages 5 and 6: There was much discussion about the lists of permitted uses and special
exceptions.
Ms. Juanita Blumberg, 1130 East State Road 434: suggested that the Commission keep
the list of special exceptions small. Ms. Blumberg added that the Town Center should not
be "sterile".
There was much discussion on the definitions of a "comer store" and a "convenience
store"; and whether auto repair shops, bus terminals, and schools should be listed under
"permitted uses" or "special exceptions". The Commission agreed by consensus to list
auto repair shops under "special exceptions" and to list bus terminals as "special
exceptions".
Tape 2/Side A
Mr. Dover said that he will "refine" the issue of the differences between convenience
stores and corner stores in the next draft of the Town Center District Code, prior to the
first reading of the related Ordinance.
Regarding the issue of schools, the consensus of the Commission was to leave schools
listed under "permitted uses", with the exception of removing the words "requiring no
medical equipment".
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Mayor Partyka called a ten (10) minutes recess.
Mayor Partyka later reconvened the meeting.
Page 7: There was discussion pertaining to CIVIC sites; home occupation uses; and
parking requirements.
Discussion ensued about the permitted size of a parking space within the Town Center
District. The Commission agreed by consensus to keep the size of parking spaces at nine
(9) feet by eighteen (18) feet.
Ms. Blumberg stated that she had concerns with the Code being too flexible and asked
what conditions would cause the streets to be located differently. Mr. Dover responded
by giving explanations and examples, and stated that the design is "Like a spider web;
you pull on one thing and the whole thing jiggles. We have to be prepared for all
possibilities" .
Page 12: There was a concern with the Fire Department being able to handle the four
story maximum building height. It was stated that the Fire Department could indeed
handle this.
Page 13: Discussion ensued regarding building widths and depths. It was clarified that
the correct space between buildings should be ten (10) feet (maximum).
Page 14: There was brief discussion about civic sites.
Tape 2/Side B
Page 15: Discussion ensued on buildings being constructed on parks or squares; diagonal
and parallel parking spaces; right-of-ways; green strips located near the sidewalks; and
the training and expertise of the Development Review Committee.
Mr. Dover explained the changes pertaining to building on parks and squares, in that
"Squares, parks, and open spaces are to remain open, unoccupied by buildings, with the
exception of civic buildings, etc.". Mr. Dover also informed the Commission that
paragraph 2 on page 8 could be amended to say, "In the event that you use diagonal
parking, the dimensions will change" and that he will make notes pertaining to the
parking on the applicable sections.
Mr. Dover noted that on pages 17 through 24, the date noted is incorrect, and clarified
that this is the draft of February 24, 1999.
Page 18: It was noted that under Section D, Number 3 is underlined and should be
crossed out.
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Page 28: There was a question about satellite dish antenna greater than eighteen (18')
inches being prohibited and to what extent they can be regulated. Attorney Guthrie said
that he is going to look into this issue and said that there is some language in Chapter 166
and the Telecommunications Act of 1996 pertaining to this. Mr. Dover stated that any
changes that need to be made to correct this, will be done.
A concern was raised regarding the Development Review Committee choosing colors
based on "personal preference". Mr. Dover replied by saying that they can help the
Committee "refine a palette" and the Commission can approve it, or it could be included
in a Code revision at a later date.
Page 29: Mr. Grindstaff spoke again regarding confusion on the environmental
jurisdictional lines and informed the Commission that Michael and Associates and the
City had received information regarding this in June of 1998. Mr. Grindstaff handed out
copies of correspondence and other information pertaining to this.
Mr. Leerdam asked about any Agreements pertaining to the Town Center District Code
that the City is involved in.
Attorney Guthrie presented the Mayor and Commission with two (2) memorandums
pertaining to two (2) items that he proposed be included in the Town Center regulations.
The first issue Attorney Guthrie discussed dealt with a proposed Site Development
Agreement Option, which was detailed in the first memorandum.
The second issue dealt with the mandatory compliance of land development regulations
with the City's Comprehensive Plan. Details were included in Attorney Guthrie's second
memorandum.
Prior to the conclusion of the Workshop, there was discussion regarding which
Commissioners would attend a meeting to be held on March 8, 1999 involving the School
Board, Seminole County, and the Cities within Seminole County. The meeting involved
school zoning issues. Mayor Partyka stated that the Regular Meeting of March 8, 1999
will continue as normally scheduled.
III. ADJOURNMENT
Mayor Partyka adjourned the meeting.
Minutes respectfully submitted by: Amy Lovingfoss
Clerk