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WORKSHOP
CITY COMMISSION
JUNE 12, 1996
The Workshop Meeting of the City Commission was called to order by Mayor John F. Bush at 5: 10
p.m.
ROLLCALL:
Mayor John F. Bush, present
Deputy Mayor John Ferring, present
City Manager Ronald W. McLemore, present
COMMISSIONERS:
Larry Conniff, present
John Langellotti, present
Cindy Gennell, present
David McLeod, present
Manager McLemore stated that Parks and Recreation will be first.
Commissioner Ferring asked if the General Funds - Revenues, could be discussed first. Discussion
on the General Funds Revenues. Manager McLemore stated that in prior years the Fund Balance was
shown as a revenue, it is not really a revenue, it is a fund balance, it was shown as a revenue and did
not show is as a fund balance. In this year we are not going to do that we are going to show it for
what it is, we are going to show it as revenue and then fund balance. Discussion.
PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT
Don Wilson, Parks and Recreation Director, gave an overview of his department's budget and stated
that the department's increase is a little over $2,000.
Mayor Bush asked ifit was cost effective for the City to run the concession stand. Mr. Wilson stated
that the City is loosing $8,000 per year on the concession stand. Mayor Bush asked if the City should
look into the possibility of having someone else wants to take the concession stand over. Mr. Wilson
said that he has some goals and objectives for the operations manager to look at ways, to be creative
and run specials and to break the deficit. Discussion.
Mr. Wilson stated that there are ways to meet the deficit, and said he is attempting to do that.
Manager McLemore stated that he has talked with Mr. Wilson regarding this and said ifhe can bring
the concession stand in line and have it make money, that is fine, but if not then next year we will
contract it out. Mr. Wilson said if the City will work with him one more year, he feels he can close
the gap in the deficit. Discussion.
Mayor Bush said there were a couple of citizens who came to a Commission meeting requesting dug-
outs or some sort of shelter to keep the children out of the sun, for the T -Ball fields and said he
would like to see that discussed and possibly put into the budget. Discussion.
Commissioner Ferring questioned the Capital Improvement budget. Discussion.
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Commissioner Ferring said a top priority that a lot of people have asked for is a municipal swimming
pool in Central Park and asked how can this be "squeezed into" this budget with the capital
improvement monies.
Mayor Bush said that is a project that should be looked at but feels that it should be looked at as a
joint facility with the School Board, and try to get them to fund an equal share of the money. Mayor
Bush said he feels it would be a good public service; there will have to be some planning and maybe
budgeting some planning money. Discussion.
Mayor Bush asked the Commission if they felt it would be reasonable to ask the Manager to do a
feasibility study on this subject and bring back recommendations. Manager McLemore said he thinks
that should be the goal for this year, to do a feasibility study and come back with a plan that says
"here is the optional ways that the Commission could approach this issue". Discussion.
It was the consensus of the Commission to add $25,000 to the Parks and Recreation Budget to fund
the dug-outs for the T -Ball field and to do a feasibility study for a municipal pool and property
purchase to expand the park.
Mayor Bush mentioned that he has had several citizens ask him about having a 4th of July celebration
and said that the Manager and Mr. WIlson has done some research on this. The cost would be about
$12,000 for the fireworks, Mayor Bush said this could be a day at the park not just for fireworks,
some games for the children, have the concession stand open and with the culmination of the
fireworks at night, have the civic organization involved to raise some of the money, maybe take
donations at the door; Mayor Bush said he feels the costs could be off-set where it might be close to
breaking even and said he feels it would make a nice day, it would make a nice activity for the City
to get together. It would be an opportunity for the City to get together and something that the people
would attend. Mayor Bush asked the Commission if that would be something they would want to
consider, it obviously would not be this 4th of July. Discussion. It was the consensus that a study
be done to see the feasibility of having this function.
Manager McLemore mentioned an error in the capital outlay - the improvements is not for Sunshine
Park, the improvements is for the lake area between the Public Works facility and new Public Safety
Facility on Moss Road, at this time there is no name for that park. Discussion.
Mr. Wilson mentioned the money allocated for the heating system at the Senior Center.
There was discussion regarding exercise equipment for the Senior Center. Mayor Bush stated ifthere
is word out in the community that the senior center is looking for exercise equipment and that the
equipment most probably will be donated from the community. Mayor Bush also mentioned that he
has an exercise bike that he will donate.
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COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT
Manager McLemore stated that the recommended cost increase is for the department that now
includes only Tom Grimms, is around 5%, the main increase in this budget relate to the new
Community Development Director's position being added.
Discussion on new position. Manager McLemore stated that he has an aggressive work program in
mind and we will have a tremendous amount of work in the next two years related to our update
requirements on the Compo Plan. Manager McLemore said it is his goal to have a very aggressive
economic development program; this new person (Community Dev. Director) is who he would look
to carry out that program and to bring these functions together like they are typically found in Cities
of this size.
Commissioner Ferring was in disagreement with having a new position and stated that he is looking
at the fiscal standing.
Commissioner McLeod stated that he understands the need for reorganization, as you grow and as
the community grows, you have different needs; his feeling is if you now have the money to do it and
at the same time you are able to hold the taxes the same or reduce them, that is your benefit. The
problem is if you hold back at some date the services will catch up and the tax rates will go up.
Commissioner McLeod stated that he feels that the City Manager was hired for a purpose, and what
he sees in this request is the Manager is asking the Commission to let him do and perform the job this
Commission hired him to do. Manager McLeod said he doesn't have a problem with the new
position, and said it is the Manager's reflection of what his management needs and at the same time
he is saying the overall budget can be held or lowered and said he thinks the Commission should
support the Manager at this time.
Manager McLemore said the key thing that he would ask the Commission to think about is if we do
this right, we will affect what happens in this community for a long time and if we make this plan
work, we are going to add big dollars to this tax roll in a short period of time and that is the reason
he is looking for a person who has a lot of experience in that area; to work with me, the Planning &
Zoning Board, our Staff and the community. There is a real desire in the community to start
economic development and said he thinks we can be successful at it, if we put the right management
team with the community, we can do a lot of good things which will cause the tax roll to expand. It
won't happen tomorrow, but in three to five years you will see results. Discussion.
Commissioner Conniff stated that he has perused the budget and said he believes the Manager is
frugal and responsible, and the Manager has justified the new position and also a 4% saving in the
overall budget and said "lets go for it". Commissioner Conniff said the Manager has justified bringing
on the new position and is able to give a roll-back and said he feels himself, that we should not go for
the roll-back, we have projects and a lot of things we can do.
Commissioner Gennell stated that with all the supporting information, she supports the request and
said she feels the same as Commissioner Conniff to not go with the roll-back rate.
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Commissioner Langellotti said he feels that this is the first time in all the years that he has been
looking at budgets that he has seen a professional presentation and said if the City Manager requests
this, he is running it, this is his job (Manager) not his job (Commissioner Langellotti).
Mayor Bush said he appreciates Commissioner Ferring's attitude about wanting to keep taxes down
and said he thinks that Commissioner Ferring would agree as well as the rest of the Commission, if
this is approved we want to see some results.
Manager McLemore stated that the Commission can rest assure that he is not going to let the City
get into financial trouble. Manager McLemore said he has never let a community get into trouble and
he is not going to let Winter Springs get in trouble.
Manager McLemore said when he looks at new positions, he looks at them in a value added way.
This position (Community Development Director) is a true value added result and will render a better
community.
Mayor Bush said the Commission should also keep in mind Commissioner Ferring's point, that we
want to do our best to keep the taxes down without reducing services and said he thinks that is the
goal the Commission needs to have in the back of their mind.
Commissioner Ferring said as far as the consulting services are concerned, with the new person
coming on board, he would suspect that we wouldn't have to use all the consulting services, is that
correct?
Manager McLemore said he wouldn't want to lower it this year, but suspect he might be able to do
that next year. Manager McLemore said in his opinion, you use consultants as an alternative to
staffing up; so the goal is where you don't have enough on-going work to justifY a person to do it
then you hire a consultant to keep from having to add staff; at this point in time, his idea is to try and
reduce that kind of generalized technical assistance we have on an on going basis by adding this
person.
Discussion on consulting fees throughout the departments. Manager McLemore will bring back to
the Commission a total for consulting fees for all departments.
LAND MANAGEMENT
Manager McLemore stated that this is pretty much a continuation budget, with one item representing
most of the increase and that is for $2,500 in consulting services that Mr. LeBlanc has asked to put
in as a back-up.
Don LeBlanc, Land Management Specialist, said he had put in the consulting services in case of
commercial development and he would have to get some environmental verification to ensure that
everything is working well. Discussion.
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CODE ENFORCEMENT
Mayor Bush mentioned that the Code Enforcement Inspector does not have a radio in his car. When
he finds an abandoned automobile he has to copy down the VIN number and come back to the Police
Department and check with the department to run a check on it; wouldn't it make sense for him to
have a car with a radio in so that he can call into the department. Discussion on a radio in the car for
the Code Inspector. Acting Police Chief Pieper stated that problem should be resolved when the
City gets the 800 megahertz.
Commissioner Gennell asked how old is the vehicle the Code Inspector is using. Chief Pieper said
within the past fiscal year he got a 1991 vehicle. Discussion on the size of the vehicle.
Commissioner Ferring asked about the $1,500 computer software. Discussion on the software for
the City.
Commissioner Langellotti asked if the City is still involved in the R.U.O.K. program. Chief Pieper
stated yes.
BUILDING DEPARTMENT
Manager McLemore stated there was an error in the Department's budget, and gave the Commission
the update to the budget for this department. This list will cause the total for the budget to go up a
small amount 2.26%.
Don Houck, Building Official, explained the update to his budget.
PUBLIC WORKSIUTILITY
Public Works - General Fund
There is a 10% increase in this department's budget. Kip Lockcuff, Public W orks/Utility Director,
stated the increase is because of the new position - Capital Works Coordinator. There was question
on what the duties will be for the new position. Mr. Lockcuff stated that the person will "bird dog"
the extent of capital projects we have now; and said the City would not have to use a consultant as
often, which would be almost half the cost of the new position's salary in savings. The City will get
a better quality project.
Discussion on the Transportation Improvement Fund.
Discussion on the Transportation Impact Fee Fund.
Discussion on Stormwater Management.
Discussion on the Utility Department.
Discussion on Capital Improvement Projects.
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POLICE DEPARTMENT
Mayor Bush asked if the Police Department is adequately staffed etc. Acting Chief Pieper stated that
after filling the vacancies he has at this time, that yes, the Department is adequately staffed.
Discussion.
Discussion on the overall Police Dept. Budget.
FIRE DEPARTMENT
Discussion on the Fire Department Budget.
FINANCE DEPARTMENT
Discussion on the new position of Financial Analysis. Manager McLemore stated that this position
will help improve the Finance Department. It was the consensus of the Commission to add the new
position.
It was the consensus of the Commission to not hold the scheduled workshop on Thursday evening
and will hold the scheduled workshop on Friday, at 1 :00 p.m.
The workshop meeting adjourned at 10:00 p.m.
Respectfully Submitted,
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~~;W Hopkins,
City Clerk