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CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA
MINUTES
CITY COMMISSION
REGULAR MEETING
JANUARY 28,2008
CALL TO ORDER
The Regular Meeting of Monday, January 28,2008 of the City Commission was called to
Order by Mayor John F. Bush at 5:15 p.m. in the Commission Chambers of the
Municipal Building (City Hall, 1126 East State Road 434, Winter Springs, Florida
32708).
Roll Call:
Mayor John F. Bush, present
Deputy Mayor Donald A. Gilmore, present
Commissioner Robert S., Miller, present
Commissioner Rick Brown, present
Commissioner Sally McGinnis, present
Commissioner Joanne M. Krebs, absent
City Manager Ronald W. McLemore, arrived at 5:22 p.m.
Mr. Kevin Smith, Director, General Services Department, present for the City Manager
City Attorney Anthony A. Garganese, present
A moment of silence was followed by the Pledge of Allegiance.
INFORMA TIONAL AGENDA
INFORMATIONAL
100. Community Development Department
Advising The City Commission Of The Status Of Various Current Planning
Projects.
Brief discussion ensued on the status of Jesup's Reserve.
INFORMATIONAL
101. Utility Department
Informing The City Commission On the Potable Water Usage For 2007.
There was no discussion on this Agenda Item.
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"MOTION TO APPROYE." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS.
SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE. DISCUSSION.
YOTE:
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
DEPUTYMAYORGILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
.:..:. AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS
WERE DISCUSSED, BUT NOT NECESSARIL Y IN THE ORDER
DOCUMENTED. .:. .:.
CONSENT AGENDA
CONSENT
200. Public Works Department
Requesting Approval Of A Quit Claim Deed Conveying Property To The City.
City Attorney Anthony A. Garganese said, "Before the City formally accepts the Quit
Claim Deed, my recommendation would be to just get some Title work on the property
because the Quit Claim Deed says that the City takes subject to all encumbrances, liens,
assessments, and so forth. And we just need to double check, make sure that that
property is going to be free and clear."
Attorney Garganese added, "I would approve it subject to the title work being deemed
acceptable. "
"SO MOYED." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BROWN. SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. DISCUSSION.
YOTE:
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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CONSENT
201. Public Works Department - Stormwater Division
Requests Approval To Enter Into A Project Agreement With The Natural
Resources Conservation Service (NRCS) For The Gee Creek Bank Stabilization
Project At Hacienda Village.
Commissioner Robert S. Miller suggested that Staff get information in advance for when
the check needs to get made out to.
CONSENT
202. Office Of The Mayor
Requesting Approval Of Resolution Number 2008-08 Expressing Appreciation To
David Pritchett For His Service On The Beautification Of Winter Springs Board.
No discussion.
CONSENT
203. Office Of The City Clerk
Approval Of The January 7, 2008 Special City Commission Meeting Minutes.
There was no discussion on this Agenda Item.
CONSENT
204. Office Of The City Clerk
Approval Of The January 14,2008 City Commission Regular Meeting Minutes.
This Agenda Item was not discussed.
"MOTION TO APPROVE
COMMISSIONER BROWN.
DISCUSSION.
CONSENT" AGENDA. MOTION BY
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN : AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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AWARDS AND PRESENTATIONS
AWARDS AND PRESENT A TIONS
300. Office Of The City Manager
Tricia Johnson Of LYNX Requesting To Make A Presentation To The City
Commission Regarding LYNX Services.
Ms. Tricia Johnson, Government & Community Affairs Manager, LYNX 455 North
Garland Avenue, Orlando, Florida: addressed the City Commission and stated, "We will
begin bus service in December of 2008 along State Road 434 starting with the Oviedo
Marketplace through Red Bug, Tuskawilla, stopping in the Winter Springs Downtown
Center and Winter Springs High School and then through Longwood ending at the
Rosemont superstop."
City Manager Ronald W McLemore arrived 5:22 p.m.
Commissioner Sally McGinnis asked Ms. Johnson, "There are other stops?" Ms.
Johnson responded, "Absolutely. One thing I would like to clarify with you. I have
gotten a lot of questions. Where will the stops be? We don't necessarily determine
where all the stops are. Cities and Counties make that determination. So, if you have
areas that you would like to be addressed in Winter Springs, please let me know." Ms.
Johnson added, "Also let your County Commissioners know because they will also playa
role in determining where the stops are located."
Ms. Johnson added, "We will have shelters at some of the stops." Mayor Bush
mentioned to Ms. Johnson, "I am sure that Winter Springs will want their bus stops to
look different than others."
Deputy Mayor Donald A. Gilmore said to Ms. Johnson, "I am hoping that we receive
periodic reports on ridership?" Ms. Johnson stated, "Absolutely."
Discussion.
Ms. Johnson then noted that "LYNX is hosting a series of Town Hall meetings
throughout our three (3) County service area." Furthermore, Ms. Johnson said, "The
Town Hall Meetings in Seminole County are on Wednesday, February 6th [2008] at six
p.m. at Longwood Community Center. I did mail each of you a flyer about these events.
February 7 [2008] is at 'Good Morning Seminole' which is the Seminole County
Regional Chamber of Commerce breakfast meeting and that is at the Lake Mary
Marriott." at 7:30 a.m.
As to who on our Staff would work with LYNX, Manager McLemore said, "The
coordinating person there would be Community Development Department..." Mayor
Bush added, "... Randy Stevenson."
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AWARDS AND PRESENTATIONS
301. Office Of The City Manager
Presentation By Seminole County Commissioner Bob Dallari.
This Agenda Item was not heard.
.:. .:. AGENDA NOTE: PUBLIC INPUT WAS HELD NEXT, AS
DOCUMENTED, FOLLOWED BY THE REST OF THE AGENDA. .:..:.
PUBLIC INPUT
Mr. Richard Schaffer, 319 Arapaho Trail, Winter Springs, Florida: spoke on the
proposed Fire Assessment Fee and mentioned that many residents are on fixed incomes
and asked the City Commission to please consider the Tuscawilla Trails residents.
Brief discussion.
Mr. Laurent A. Pellerin, 116 South Moss Road, Winter Springs Florida: mentioned he
had attended a previous Town Hall Meeting; commented on Property Tax Reform issues;
and noted that there were residents on the West side of the City who also were hurting
financially.
Discussion.
REPORTS
REPORTS
400. Office Of The City Attorney - Anthony A. Garganese, Esquire
No Report.
REPORTS
401. Office Of The City Manager - Ronald W. McLemore
Manager McLemore mentioned that the "Grandville" project was most likely gomg
forward.
REPORTS
402. Office Of The City Clerk - Andrea Lorenzo-Luaces, CMC
No Report.
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REPORTS
403. Commission Seat Four - Sally McGinnis
Commissioner McGinnis asked that the appearance of the Civic Center be looked into
soon.
Next, Commissioner McGinnis commented on the proposed rate for mobile homes and
asked if it ever has been tested in the Courts? Attorney Garganese mentioned he would
discuss that with Special Counsel working on the Ordinance.
Discussion ensued on hardship cases; the Engle's property; and the Tax rate.
Commissioner Miller suggested that similar size residences to Mobile Homes also be
considered. Manager McLemore responded, "We'll do the details and bring it back to
you."
REPORTS
404. Commission Seat Five - Joanne M. Krebs
Absent.
REPORTS
405. Office Of The Mayor - John F. Bush
Mayor Bush spoke of Lake Mary's new Events Center and suggested that the City
Commission also visit it out and that the City Commission should consider one for
Winter Springs also.
Secondly, Mayor Bush recommended that the City Commission consider starting a
Foundation for the Arts.
Next, Mayor Bush thought that a Citizen Committee for Economic Development should
be developed.
"I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THAT WE PROCEED WITH THAT AND COME
BACK WITH THE INFORMATION NECESSARY TO MAKE THAT A
REALITY." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BROWN. SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BROWN : AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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Mayor Bush then mentioned his Meeting with Representative Dean Cannon. Discussion.
Next, Mayor Bush further addressed an Events Center and stated, "I think we need a
Motion on that to maybe direct Staff to try to explore the possibilities - we're talking
about, not only the costs but the location - the Town Center might be an excellent place."
"MOTION." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MILLER. MAYOR BUSH
ADDED, "BASICALLY TO DIRECT STAFF TO EXPLORE POSSIBILITIES..."
COMMISSIONER MILLER ADDED, "...LOCATIONS." SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER BROWN. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN : AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Mayor Bush added that there was a large enough room at the Lake Mary Events Center
for dancing.
REPORTS
406. Commission Seat One - Robert S. Miller
Commissioner Miller mentioned that he would bring a slide presentation to the next
Meeting on the recent Highland Games events.
REPORTS
407. Commission Seat Two - Rick Brown
Commissioner Rick Brown further spoke on Economic Development and the Economic
Development Committee.
REPORTS
408. Commission Seat Three/Deputy Mayor - Donald A. Gilmore
Commissioner Gilmore spoke briefly of excess irrigation usage comments and mentioned
that on Winter Springs Boulevard at Tuscawilla, there was excess water around 7:00 p.m.
or 8:00 p.m. last evening. Mr. Kip Lockcuff, P.E. Director, Public Works/Utility
Department commented, "Steve (Richart) can give you a Report."
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.:..:. AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING REPORT WAS HELD NEXT, AS
DOCUMENTED, FOLLOWED BY THE REST OF THE AGENDA. .:..:.
REPORTS
REPORTS
405. Office Of The Mayor - John F. Bush
Mayor Bush commented on the Hometown Democracy petition and mentioned they are
good for two (2) years, and then noted, "I think the bottom line for the cities is we better
have our Comp[ rehensive] Plan about as tight as it is going to be, because if that passes,
it will be almost impossible to change it. So, we can do that Eloise (Sahlstrom)?"
Ms. Eloise Sahlstrom, ASLA, AICP, Senior Planner, Community Development
Department stated, "We're working hard on it."
Mayor Bush called a Recess at 6:01 p.m.
Mayor Bush called the Meeting back to Order at 6: 14 p. m.
Tape IISide B
.:. .:. AGENDA NOTE: THE ADDITIONAL REPORT WAS HEARD NEXT, AS
DOCUMENTED, FOLLOWED BY THE PUBLIC HEARINGS AGENDA. .:..:.
REPORTS
REPORTS
405. Office Of The Mayor - John F. Bush
Mayor Bush spoke for the Record about an American kilt which was presented to Mayor
Bush. Mayor Bush noted it belongs to the City of Winter Springs and would also be
displayed.
PUBLIC HEARINGS AGENDA
PUBLIC HEARINGS
500. Community Development Department - Planning Division
Requests That The City Commission Hold A Public Hearing On The Draft
Evaluation And Appraisal Report (EAR) Recommendations Related To The City's
Major Issues, Recently Discussed At The Joint Local Planning Agency And City
Commission Special Meeting Held On January 17,2008.
Ms. Sahlstrom addressed the City Commission.
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Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
Mr. Matthew Matisak, 794 Seneca Meadows Road, Winter Springs, Florida:
commended the good work that has been done and suggested we look for Grant funds
when possible.
Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
Discussion followed on urban sprawl and housing options for the elderly.
Commissioner McGinnis mentioned she would provide the City Commission with an
advertisement from the Baltimore Sun newspaper.
Discussion.
"I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION RELATIVE TO ITEM 7., THAT WE
REMOVE A POLICY ENCOURAGING - THAT WE JUST LET THE STATE
LAW BE WHAT IT MAY, AND THAT WE USE THIS AS A 'CONDITIONAL
USE' IN A SINGLE FA MIL Y ZONING DISTRICT SUBJECT TO STRICT
DESIGN COMP AT ABILITY GUIDELINES TO PROTECT THE
NEIGHBORHOOD CHARACTER." MOTION BY DEPUTY MA YOR
GILMORE. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MILLER. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN : NAY
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: NAY
MAYOR BUSH: NAY
MOTION DID NOT CARRY.
"I MAKE A MOTION TO TAKE OUT THE WORD 'ENCOURAGE'." MOTION
BY COMMISSIONER MILLER. SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR
GILMORE. DISCUSSION.
NO ACTION WAS TAKEN ON THIS MOTION.
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COMMISSIONER MILLER ADDED, "I TAKE IT THAT THERE IS A LOT OF
RESISTANCE TO THAT TOO, SO, I WILL MAKE A MOTION THAT ALL OF
THESE ITEMS HERE WHERE - IT SAYS, ADD A POLICY OR POLICIES TO
THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, DESIGNATING ONE (1) OR MORE AREAS, I
WOULD LIKE TO ADD A POLICY OR POLICIES THAT ENCOURAGES THE
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DESIGNATING ONE (1) OR MORE AND THEN PUT
'ENCOURAGING' ALL THE WAY THROUGH THIS DOCUMENT.
EVERYWHERE, WHERE IT SAYS ANYTHING, STRENGTHEN POLICIES
THAT ENCOURAGE, REQUIRED INTERACTION OF NEW DEVELOPMENT -
POLICY OF FUTURE LAND USE THAT ENCOURAGES THE CITY TO
ALLOW AND PROMOTE VERTICAL INTEGRATION - AND ONL Y
DISCOURAGE URBAN SPRAWL."
MOTION DIED FOR LACK OF A SECOND.
Further discussion.
"I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ELIMINATE ITEM 7.
SINCE IT IS ADDRESSED BY STATE LAW)' MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR
GILMORE. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MILLER. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: NAY
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
MAYOR BUSH NOTED, "CAN WE HAVE A MOTION THEN TO APPROVE"
[AGENDA ITEM]? MOTION BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. MAYOR
BUSH NOTED, "SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MILLER." DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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PUBLIC HEARINGS
501. Office Of The City Manager
Requesting The Commission To Approve Second Reading Of The Ordinance 2008-
01, Which Establishes The Fire Assessment Program In The City Of Winter
Springs, And Approve Of The Associated Initial Rate Resolution. (This Agenda Item
Has Been Delayed Until February 11, 2008 In Order To Allow The Consultants And
Attorney Sufficient Time To Recalculate The Assessment Rates To Allow For A Mobile
Home Rate Category, And To Develop A Hardship Exemption Program And
Installment Payment Plan Program.)
No action was needed or taken during this Meeting.
REGULAR AGENDA
REGULAR
600. Office Of The City Manager
Requesting City Commission Consideration Of Resolution Number 2008-02 To
Update The City's Personnel Policies Regarding Military Leave. (This Item Was
Tabled At The January 14, 2008 Commission Meeting. Request Commission To
Remove Item From Table.)
"I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE REMOVE THIS FROM THE TABLE."
MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MILLER. SECONDED. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Brief discussion.
"I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ADOPT THE TWENTY-FOUR (24)
MONTHS." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MILLER. SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER BROWN. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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REGULAR
601. Not Used.
REGULAR
602. Office Of The City Attorney
Requests The City Commission Review The Attached Resolution Number 2008-09
Adopting A New City Of Winter Springs Policy Regarding The City's Collection
And Use Of Social Security Numbers.
"MOTION TO APPROVE." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BROWN. MAYOR
BUSH STATED, "SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MILLER." DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
REGULAR
603. Public Works Department
Requesting The Commission Direction On The Trail Bridge Flags.
Discussion ensued with Mr. Lockcuff.
Tape 2/Side A
"MOTION TO APPROVE." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BROWN. MAYOR
BUSH REMARKED, "SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MILLER."
DISCUSSION.
MAYOR BUSH ADDED, "THAT WE FLY FLAGS ON THOSE POLES; THAT IS
THE MOTION." MAYOR BUSH ADDED, "TO CLARIFY YOUR MOTION, IT
IS THAT WE APPROVE FLYING FLAGS FROM THESE FOUR (4) POLES
AND FLY THEM APPROPRIATELY WITHIN ALL THE LAWS OF THE LAND,
ETC., ETC., ETC."
COMMISSIONER BROWN ADDED, "THAT WAS MY MOTION, YES."
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VOTE:
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: NAY
MOTION CARRIED.
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Deputy Mayor Gilmore mentioned that the flags at the Senior Center need to be replaced.
ADJOURNMENT
Mayor Bush adjourned the Regular Meeting at 7:03 p.m.
RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED:
ANDREA LORENZO-LUACES, CMC
CITY CLERK
APPROVED:
MAYOR JOHN F. BUSH
NOTE: These Minutes were approved at the
, 2008 Regular City Commission Meeting.
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CALL TO ORDER
The Regular Meeting of Monday, January 28, 2008 of the City Commission was called to
Order by Mayor John F. Bush at 5:15 p.m. in the Commission Chambers of the
Municipal Building (City Hall, 1126 East State Road 434, Winter Springs, Florida
32708).
Roll Call:
Mayor John F. Bush, present
Deputy Mayor Donald A. Gilmore, present
Commissioner Robert S. Miller, present
Commissioner Rick Brown, present
Commissioner Sally McGinnis, present
Commissioner Joanne M. Krebs, absent
City Manager Ronald W. McLemore, arrived at 5:22 p.m.
Mr. Kevin Smith, Director, General Services Department, present for the City Manager
City Attorney Anthony A. Garganese, present
A moment of silence was followed by the Pledge of Allegiance.
INFORMATIONAL AGENDA
INFORMATIONAL
100. Community Development Department
Advising The City Commission Of The Status Of Various Current Planning
Projects.
Brief discussion ensued on the status of Jesup's Reserve.
INFORMATIONAL
101. Utility Department
Informing The City Commission On the Potable Water Usage For 2007.
There was no discussion on this Agenda Item.
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"MOTION TO APPROVE." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS.
SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
• • AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS
WERE DISCUSSED, BUT NOT NECESSARILY IN THE ORDER
DOCUMENTED. • •
CONSENT AGENDA
CONSENT
200. Public Works Department
Requesting Approval Of A Quit Claim Deed Conveying Property To The City.
City Attorney Anthony A. Garganese said, "Before the City formally accepts the Quit
Claim Deed, my recommendation would be to just get some Title work on the property
because the Quit Claim Deed says that the City takes subject to all encumbrances, liens,
assessments, and so forth. And we just need to double check, make sure that that
property is going to be free and clear."
Attorney Garganese added, "I would approve it subject to the title work being deemed
acceptable."
"SO MOVED." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BROWN. SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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CONSENT
201. Public Works Department - Stormwater Division
Requests Approval To Enter Into A Project Agreement With The Natural
Resources Conservation Service (MRCS) For The Gee Creek Bank Stabilization
Project At Hacienda Village.
Commissioner Robert S. Miller suggested that Staff get information in advance for when
the check needs to get made out to.
CONSENT
202. Office Of The Mayor
Requesting Approval Of Resolution Number 2008-08 Expressing Appreciation To
David Pritchett For His Service On The Beautification Of Winter Springs Board.
No discussion.
CONSENT
203. Office Of The City Clerk
Approval Of The January 7, 2008 Special City Commission Meeting Minutes.
There was no discussion on this Agenda Item.
CONSENT
204. Office Of The City Clerk
Approval Of The January 14, 2008 City Commission Regular Meeting Minutes.
This Agenda Item was not discussed.
~~MOTION TO APPROVE CONSENT" AGENDA. MOTION BY
COMMISSIONER BROWN. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS.
DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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AWARDS AND PRESENTATIONS
AWARDS AND PRESENTATIONS
300. Office Of The City Manager
Tricia Johnson Of LYNX Requesting To Make A Presentation To The City
Commission Regarding LYNX Services.
Ms. Tricia Johnson, Government & Community Affairs Manager, LYNX, 455 North
Garland Avenue, Orlando, Florida: addressed the City Commission and stated, "We will
begin bus service in December of 2008 along State Road 434 starting with the Oviedo
Marketplace through Red Bug, Tuskawilla, stopping in the Winter Springs Downtown
Center and Winter Springs High School and then through Longwood ending at the
Rosemont superstop."
City Manager Ronald W. McLemore arrived S: 22 p. m.
Commissioner Sally McGinnis asked Ms. Johnson, "There are other stops?" Ms.
Johnson responded, "Absolutely. One thing I would like to clarify with you. I have
gotten a lot of questions. Where will the stops be? We don't necessarily determine
where all the stops are. Cities and Counties make that determination. So, if you have
areas that you would like to be addressed in Winter Springs, please let me know." Ms.
Johnson added, "Also let your County Commissioners know because they will also play a
role in determining where the stops are located."
Ms. Johnson added, "We will have shelters at some of the stops." Mayor Bush
mentioned to Ms. Johnson, "I am sure that Winter Springs will want their bus stops to
look different than others."
Deputy Mayor Donald A. Gilmore said to Ms. Johnson, "I am hoping that we receive
periodic reports on ridership?" Ms. Johnson stated, "Absolutely."
Discussion.
Ms. Johnson then noted that "LYNX is hosting a series of Town Hall meetings
throughout our three (3) County service area." Furthermore, Ms. Johnson said, "The
Town Hall Meetings in Seminole County are on Wednesday, February 6th [2008] at six
p.m. at Lon~wood Community Center. I did mail each of you a flyer about these events.
February 7t [2008] is at `Good Morning Seminole' which is the Seminole County
Regional Chamber of Commerce breakfast meeting and that is at the Lake Mary
Marriott." at 7:30 a.m.
As to who on our Staff would work with LYNX, Manager McLemore said, "The
coordinating person there would be Community Development Department..." Mayor
Bush added, "...Randy Stevenson."
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AWARDS AND PRESENTATIONS
301. Office Of The City Manager
Presentation By Seminole County Commissioner Bob Dallari.
This Agenda Item was not heard.
• • AGENDA NOTE: PUBLIC INPUT WAS HELD NEXT, AS
DOCUMENTED, FOLLOWED BY THE REST OF THE AGENDA. • •
PUBLIC INPUT
Mr. Richard Schaffer, 319 Arapaho Trail, Winter Springs, Florida: spoke on the
proposed Fire Assessment Fee and mentioned that many residents are on fixed incomes
and asked the City Commission to please consider the Tuscawilla Trails residents.
Brief discussion.
Mr. Laurent A. Pellerin, 116 South Moss Road, Winter Springs Florida: mentioned he
had attended a previous Town Hall Meeting; commented on Property Tax Reform issues;
and noted that there were residents on the West side of the City who also were hurting
financially.
Discussion.
REPORTS
REPORTS
400. Office Of The City Attorney -Anthony A. Garganese, Esquire
No Report.
REPORTS
401. Office Of The City Manager -Ronald W. McLemore
Manager McLemore mentioned that the "Grandville" project was most likely going
forward.
REPORTS
402. Office Of The City Clerk -Andrea Lorenzo-Luaces, CMC
No Report.
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REPORTS
403. Commission Seat Four -Sally McGinnis
Commissioner McGinnis asked that the appearance of the Civic Center be looked into
soon.
Next, Commissioner McGinnis commented on the proposed rate for mobile homes and
asked if it ever has been tested in the Courts? Attorney Garganese mentioned he would
discuss that with Special Counsel working on the Ordinance.
Discussion ensued on hardship cases; the Engle's property; and the Tax rate.
Commissioner Miller suggested that similar size residences to Mobile Homes also be
considered. Manager McLemore responded, "We'll do the details and bring it back to
you."
REPORTS
404. Commission Seat Five -Joanne M. Krebs
Absent.
REPORTS
405. Office Of The Mayor -John F. Bush
Mayor Bush spoke of Lake Mary's new Events Center and suggested that the City
Commission also visit it out and that the City Commission should consider one for
Winter Springs also.
Secondly, Mayor Bush recommended that the City Commission consider starting a
Foundation for the Arts.
Next, Mayor Bush thought that a Citizen Committee for Economic Development should
be developed.
"I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THAT WE PROCEED WITH THAT AND COME
BACK WITH THE INFORMATION NECESSARY TO MAKE THAT A
REALITY." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BROWN. SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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Mayor Bush then mentioned his Meeting with Representative Dean Cannon. Discussion.
Next, Mayor Bush further addressed an Events Center and stated, "I think we need a
Motion on that to maybe direct Staff to try to explore the possibilities -we're talking
about, not only the costs but the location -the Town Center might be an excellent place."
"MOTION." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MILLER. MAYOR BUSH
ADDED, "BASICALLY TO DIRECT STAFF TO EXPLORE POSSIBILITIES..."
COMMISSIONER MILLER ADDED, "...LOCATIONS." SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER BROWN. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Mayor Bush added that there was a large enough room at the Lake Mary Events Center
for dancing.
REPORTS
406. Commission Seat One -Robert S. Miller
Commissioner Miller mentioned that he would bring a slide presentation to the next
Meeting on the recent Highland Games events.
REPORTS
407. Commission Seat Two -Rick Brown
Commissioner Rick Brown further spoke on Economic Development and the Economic
Development Committee.
REPORTS
408. Commission Seat Three/Deputy Mayor -Donald A. Gilmore
Commissioner Gilmore spoke briefly of excess irrigation usage comments and mentioned
that on Winter Springs Boulevard at Tuscawilla, there was excess water around 7:00 p.m.
or 8:00 p.m. last evening. Mr. Kip Lockcuff, P.E. Director, Public Works/tJtility
Department commented, "Steve (Richart) can give you a Report."
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• • AGENDA NOTE: THE FOLLOWING REPORT WAS HELD NEXT, AS
DOCUMENTED, FOLLOWED BY THE REST OF THE AGENDA. • •
REPORTS
REPORTS
405. Office Of The Mayor -John F. Bush
Mayor Bush commented on the Hometown Democracy petition and mentioned they are
good for two (2) years, and then noted, "I think the bottom line for the cities is we better
have our Comp[rehensive] Plan about as tight as it is going to be, because if that passes,
it will be almost impossible to change it. So, we can do that Eloise (Sahlstrom)?"
Ms. Eloise Sahlstrom, ASLA, AICP, Senior Planner, Community Development
Department stated, "We're working hard on it."
Mayor Bush called a Recess at 6: 01 p. m.
Mayor Bush called the Meeting back to Order at 6:14 p. m.
Tape l/Side B
• • AGENDA NOTE: THE ADDITIONAL REPORT WAS HEARD NEXT, AS
DOCUMENTED, FOLLOWED BY THE PUBLIC HEARINGS AGENDA. • •
REPORTS
REPORTS
405. Office Of The Mayor -John F. Bush
Mayor Bush spoke for the Record about an American kilt which was presented to Mayor
Bush. Mayor Bush noted it belongs to the City of Winter Springs and would also be
displayed.
PUBLIC HEARINGS AGENDA
PUBLIC HEARINGS
500. Community Development Department -Planning Division
Requests That The City Commission Hold A Public Hearing On The Draft
Evaluation And Appraisal Report (EAR) Recommendations Related To The City's
Major Issues, Recently Discussed At The Joint Local Planning Agency And City
Commission Special Meeting Held On January 17, 2008.
Ms. Sahlstrom addressed the City Commission.
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Mayor Bush opened the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
Mr. Matthew Matisak, 794 Seneca Meadows Road, Winter Springs, Florida:
commended the good work that has been done and suggested we look for Grant funds
when possible.
Mayor Bush closed the "Public Input" portion of the Agenda Item.
Discussion followed on urban sprawl and housing options for the elderly.
Commissioner McGinnis mentioned she would provide the City Commission with an
advertisement from the Baltimore Sun newspaper.
Discussion.
"I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION RELATIVE TO ITEM 7., THAT WE
REMOVE A POLICY ENCOURAGING -THAT WE JUST LET THE STATE
LAW BE WHAT IT MAY, AND THAT WE USE THIS AS A `CONDITIONAL
USE' IN A SINGLE FAMILY ZONING DISTRICT SUBJECT TO STRICT
DESIGN COMPATABILITY GUIDELINES TO PROTECT THE
NEIGHBORHOOD CHARACTER." MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR
GILMORE. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MILLER. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: NAY
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: NAY
MAYOR BUSH: NAY
MOTION DID NOT CARRY.
"I MAKE A MOTION TO TAKE OUT THE WORD `ENCOURAGE'." MOTION
BY COMMISSIONER MILLER. SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR
GILMORE. DISCUSSION.
NO ACTION WAS TAKEN ON THIS MOTION.
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COMMISSIONER MILLER ADDED, "I TAKE IT THAT THERE IS A LOT OF
RESISTANCE TO THAT TOO, SO, I WILL MAKE A MOTION THAT ALL OF
THESE ITEMS HERE WHERE - IT SAYS, ADD A POLICY OR POLICIES TO
THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, DESIGNATING ONE (1) OR MORE AREAS, I
WOULD LIKE TO ADD A POLICY OR POLICIES THAT ENCOURAGES THE
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DESIGNATING ONE (1) OR MORE AND THEN PUT
`ENCOURAGING' ALL THE WAY THROUGH THIS DOCUMENT.
EVERYWHERE, WHERE IT SAYS ANYTHING, STRENGTHEN POLICIES
THAT ENCOURAGE, REQUIRED INTERACTION OF NEW DEVELOPMENT -
POLICY OF FUTURE LAND USE THAT ENCOURAGES THE CITY TO
ALLOW AND PROMOTE VERTICAL INTEGRATION - AND ONLY
DISCOURAGE URBAN SPRAWL."
MOTION DIED FOR LACK OF A SECOND.
Further discussion.
"I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ELIMINATE ITEM 7.
SINCE IT IS ADDRESSED BY STATE LAW." MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR
GILMORE. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MILLER. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: NAY
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
MAYOR BUSH NOTED, "CAN WE HAVE A MOTION THEN TO APPROVE"
[AGENDA ITEM]? MOTION BY COMMISSIONER McGINNIS. MAYOR
BUSH NOTED, "SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MILLER." DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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PUBLIC HEARINGS
501. Office Of The City Manager
Requesting The Commission To Approve Second Reading Of The Ordinance 2008-
01, Which Establishes The Fire Assessment Program In The City Of Winter
Springs, And Approve Of The Associated Initial Rate Resolution. (This Agenda Item
Has Been Delayed Until February 11, 2008 In Order To Allow The Consultants And
Attorney Sufficient Time To Recalculate The Assessment Rates To Allow For A Mobile
Home Rate Category, And To Develop A Hardship Exemption Program And
Installment Payment Plan Program.)
No action was needed or taken during this Meeting.
REGULAR AGENDA
REGULAR
600. Office Of The City Manager
Requesting City Commission Consideration Of Resolution Number 2008-02 To
Update The City's Personnel Policies Regarding Military Leave. (This Item Was
Tabled At The January 14, 2008 Commission Meeting. Request Commission To
Remove Item From Table.)
"I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE REMOVE THIS FROM THE TABLE."
MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MILLER. SECONDED. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
Brief discussion.
"I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ADOPT THE TWENTY-FOUR (24)
MONTHS." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MILLER. SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER BROWN. DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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601. Not Used.
REGULAR
602. Office Of The City Attorney
Requests The City Commission Review The Attached Resolution Number 2008 -09
Adopting A New City Of Winter Springs Policy Regarding The City's Collection
And Use Of Social Security Numbers.
"MOTION TO APPROVE." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BROWN. MAYOR
BUSH STATED, "SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MILLER." DISCUSSION.
VOTE:
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: AYE
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
MOTION CARRIED.
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603. Public Works Department
Requesting The Commission Direction On The Trail Bridge Flags.
Discussion ensued with Mr. Lockcuff.
Tape 2 /Side A
"MOTION TO APPROVE." MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BROWN. MAYOR
BUSH REMARKED, "SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MILLER."
DISCUSSION.
MAYOR BUSH ADDED, "THAT WE FLY FLAGS ON THOSE POLES; THAT IS
THE MOTION." MAYOR BUSH ADDED, "TO CLARIFY YOUR MOTION, IT
IS THAT WE APPROVE FLYING FLAGS FROM THESE FOUR (4) POLES
AND FLY THEM APPROPRIATELY WITHIN ALL THE LAWS OF THE LAND,
ETC., ETC., ETC."
COMMISSIONER BROWN ADDED, "THAT WAS MY MOTION, YES."
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VOTE:
COMMISSIONER MILLER: AYE
COMMISSIONER BROWN: AYE
DEPUTY MAYOR GILMORE: AYE
COMMISSIONER McGINNIS: NAY
MOTION CARRIED.
Deputy Mayor Gilmore mentioned that the flags at the Senior Center need to be replaced.
ADJOURNMENT
Mayor Bush adjourned the Regular Meeting at 7:03 p.m.
RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED:
LORENZO-LUACES, CMC
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APPROVED:
MA R :iOHN F. $USfI•
NOTE: These Minutes were approved at the February 11, 2008 Regular City Commission Meeting.