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REGULAR MEETING
CITY COMMISSION
MAY 9, 1994
The Regular Meeting of the City Commission of the City of Winter Springs, Florida,
was called to order by Mayor John F. Bush at 7:30 p.m. The invocation was given
by Bishop Roger Van Komen, Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. The
pledge of allegiance to the flag was led by Commissioner John Langellotti.
Roll Call:
Mayor John F. Bush, present
Deputy Mayor John V. Torcaso, present
City Manager John Govoruhk, present
City Attorney Frank Kruppenbacher, present
Commissioners:
John Ferring, present
John Langellotti, present
Cindy Gennell, present
David McLeod, present
Approval of minutes of April 25, 1994: there were no additions or corrections; the
minutes stand approved as written.
Public Comment:
City Manager John Govoruhk, read a statement he said was provided him today.
Moti Khemlani, president of the Tuscawilla Homeowners Association, spoke in
reference to removal of signs.
Isabella Laub, spoke to the Commission regarding their actions denying the Friends
of Lake Jesup and the Florida Trails, and the denial for education funds by
Commissioner Gennell. She also spoke about the 35th birthday celebration, and
the Duda connection.
Glenn Childs, Wildcat Court, asked if the Duda Project would be brought up this evening.
Mayor Bush closed the public input portion of the meeting and asked if the Commission
wanted to make any comments.
Motion was made by Commissioner Ferring to put the Duda question on the agenda for the
purpose of setting a date for a full hearing of it and a vote by this Commission.
Seconded by Commissioner Langellotti. Discussion.
Second was withdrawn by Commissioner Langellotti.
Motion was made by Commissioner Ferring to put on the agenda the Duda project to be
set at a date so indicated by this Commission. Seconded by Commissioner Langellotti.
Discussion.
Motion and second were withdrawn.
Motion was made by Commissioner Ferring to place on the Agenda the scheduling of a
formal Commission Meeting during which it could take the appropriate action it deems
necessary on the Duda request. Seconded by Commissioner McLeod. Discussion. Vote
on the motion: Commissioner Gennell, aye; Commissioner McLeod, aye; Commissioner
Torcaso, aye; Commissioner Ferring, aye; Commissioner Langellotti, aye; motion
carried.
Mayor Bush re-opened the meeting to the public.
Glenn Childs, Wildcat Court, spoke about the Duda project.
Sherryle Lawlor, Northern Way, spoke about her concerns about the Duda connector.
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Terry Back, Seneca Boulevard, said he wanted to speak in reference to the backflow
devices.
Luke Labreche, Gazelle Trail, said he did not want his community to be turned into a
Palm Springs Boulevard.
Mayor Bush called a recess at 8:45 p. m. and called the meeting back to order at
8:55 p.m.
Motion was made by Commissioner Ferring that we set the meeting of May 23, 1994 as
was indicated earlier to hear this out as was in the motion. Seconded by Commissioner
Torcaso. Discussion.The City Attorney explained if this motion is passed, the Commission
is scheduling on the agenda the authority to take whatever action it deems appropriate.
That action to simply talk about it could be to vote it no, up, down, whatever they
want to do. It is saying that that night the Commission will have the authority to
act as a Body. Vote on the motion: Commissioner McLeod, aye; Commissioner Torcaso,
aye; Commissioner Ferring, aye; Commissioner Langellotti,aye; Commissioner Gennell,
aye; motion passes.
Moratorium on Glen Eagle:
The City Attorney explained the City received a request from Mr. Mikes for consideration
for a moratorium for the construction of residences on lots in Glen Eagle.
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Mr. Mikes, explained basically what the issue is. He said this was before the
Commission that sat last year, and that there is a need to correct some deficiencies
with the stormwater pipes that lead from Glen Eagle into the two ponds that exist on
the golf course at the 13th hole and the 12th hole right adjacent to Glen Eagle.
Mr. Mikes said at the time that he bought the golf course in 1987 the Winter Springs
Development Corp. reserved an easement that was at a time that Glen Eagle had not
commenced. They reserved the right to run four pipes from the cuI de sacs in Glen
Eagle and take the stormwater from Glen Eagle and put it into those two ponds. At
that time there were engineering plans that were approved to do that. Work was done
by one specific contractor. It was not done in an appropriate fashion. The work was
done in 1988 and corrective measures were done at some point in 1989, some in 1990 and
some in 1991. Following the departure of the more cooperative faction of the Develop-
ment group and the takeover of the development group by Home Capital and thereafter
by the RTC, the effort to try to correct the situation ceased.
Mr. Mikes went on to explain that development continued in Glen Eagle and at some
point late in 1993 the development was sold to one other party. That party sold off
all but about five or six lots and they are still faced with the situation. He said
the homeowners have now been at control of the association within the last month and
turned over to a homeowner controlled board. They have retained an attorney and
engineer. The engineer submitted a report that the necessary corrective work would
be in the range of $28,000 plus dollars to correct the deficiencies with the pipes.
Unfortunately the homeowners are sitting there with an unfunded association which
does not give them money to do the work at this point without some form of special
assessment.
Mr. Mikes said when he wrote the letter he requested the City become involved because
the City is a party controlling the stormwater district impacts and the City has
responsibilities to maintain. The Utility Director and Engineer have been made aware
of the situation.
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Mr. Mikes said since he is the party with the land that continues to be burdened
with the runoff and the problems, suggested we slow down and see what is happening,
and what is going to be done to those ponds because the subdivision has no right to
continue to hurt his property and they have no right to ask the City and the
Stormwater District to bear the brunt of that either.
Attorney Kruppenbacher said at the next meeting the Commission will have a formal
recommendation from Staff and the City Attorney's office regarding the appropriate
action to take to resolve this issue. Mr. Mikes said that would be acceptable.
Commissioner Ferring referred to an agreement that was signed in 1987 which stated
the developer was responsible, and he said the last thing that should happen is
that the homeowners association should be responsible for something that was put
on them after they finally took control. Commissioner Ferring asked the City
Attorney to find out the legal determination on this agreement.
Motion was made by Commissioner McLeod to take Item A, Moratorium on Glen Eagle,
to deny that request and to put it on the agenda after further study by our City
management and legal staff and to put it on the agenda for May 23rd. Seconded
by Commissioner Genne11. Discussion. Vote on the motion: Commissioner Torcaso, aye;
Commissioner Ferring, aye; Commissioner Lange110tti, aye; Commissioner Genne11, aye;
Commissioner McLeod, aye; motion passes.
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YMCA Agreement for Approval:
The City Attorney asked if there was any compensation in the City budget to be
allocated for the YMCA project, and if there was, when the Commission approved the
agreement, it should be definitively stated what the dollars are so there is no
confusion. Commissioner Genne11 explained that $1,000 a month had been approved.
Commissioner Ferring point out there were blanks in the agreement. He said under
Sec. 3(a) terms of the agreement is blank; sec. 4(b) schedules; Sec. 6 the liability
stated $500,000 and Commissioner Ferring asked if that is sufficient.
Commissioner McLeod asked if this contract is open-ended; he asked about Sec.2(d)
how many children;
Motion was made by Commissioner McLeod that this Agreement be tabled and the YMCA
Staff work with the City Manager to bring a contract back to the Commission with the
blanks filled in by May 23. Seconded by Commissioner Genne11. Discussion. Paul
Garcia of the YMCA, spoke to the Commission. Vote on the motion: Commissioner
Ferring, aye; Commissioner Lange110tti, aye; Commissioner Genne11 , aye; Commissioner
McLeod, aye; Commissioner Torcaso, aye; motion passes.
Agreement for architect for Police Complex for approval:
Mr. Kevin Radigan from Architects Design Group was present to answer questions.
Motion was made by Commissioner McLeod to table this item. Seconded by Commissioner
Genne11. Vote on the motion: Commissioner Lange110tti, aye; Commissioner Genne11, aye;
Commissioner McLeod, aye; Commissioner Torcaso, no; Commissioner Ferring, no; motion
passes.
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Honigman Miller Schwartz and Cohn Statement for Professional Services dated May 31,
1991-Request authorization for payment:
Commissioner Ferring spoke about the bill which went back three years.
Motion by Commissioner Ferring to reject this and tell them we are not paying it.
Motion died for lack of a second.
Motion was made by Commissioner McLeod, that if our City Attorney is telling us
that this is a legitimate bill that at this time by all good faith by this City
that this bill definitely should be paid at the 20% discount. Seconded by
Commissioner Torcaso. Discussion. Vote on the motion: Commissioner Langellotti, aye;
Commissioner Gennell, aye; Commissioner McLeod, aye; Commissioner Torcaso, aye;
Commissioner Ferring, no; motion passes.
Interlocal Agreement between the School Board and the City of Winter Springs:
Motion was made by Commissioner Ferring to accept this document, the Interlocal
Agreement between the City of Winter Springs and School Board of Seminole County.
Seconded by Commissioner Langellotti. Discussion. Vote on the motion: Commissioner
Gennell, aye; Commissioner McLeod, aye; Commissioner Torcaso, aye; Commissioner
Ferring, aye; Commissioner Langellotti, aye; motion passes.
Backflow Devices, Inspection Fee/Block Rates-Discussion:
Terry Back, Seneca Boulevard, said he had written a letter to Commissioner Ferring
on behalf of the homeowners regarding the annual inspection of the backflow devices.
He recommended the City take action to do all the backflow devices at one time and
. that they change the way they are inspected and repaired.
The Utility Director is proposing we eliminate the $25.00 fee, and implementingsthe
block rates. He spoke about the level of service which was adopted in the Comprehen-
sive Plan was supposed to be 125 gpd in 1995 per capita. He explained we dropped
from 143 to 142 this year so we are not on track to meet our goal of 125 by 1995
and 115 in 1997.
Mr. Lockcuff explained we have an irrigation well on the golf course which we are
responsible for maintenance and we are trying to get a consumptive use permit on
that. He said the St. Johns Water Management District are really low on what they
want to give us.
Motion was made by Commissioner Ferring in request of the consensus to return with
the following proposed changes to the Code of Ordinances: Numbers 1 through 5 that
we recommend it. Seconded by Commissioner Torcaso. Discussion. In discussion
Commissioner McLeod said he would highly recommend this City get out of the backflow
prevention business from a standpoint of testing them and from a standpoint of
initial inspection fee is fine. From a liability standpoint he said he would get
us out of that and go back to the Utility Director's recommendation on increases
based on your not doing inspections and make mandate that it is done by an outside
firm. Vote on the motion: Commissioner McLeod, no; Commissioner Torcaso, aye;
Commissioner Ferring, aye; Commissioner Langellotti, aye; Commissioner Gennell, aye;
motion passes.
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First Reading of Ord. No. 561, amending Sec. 16-55 of Article III of Chap. 16
Signs and Advertising, etc.:
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Motion was made by Commissioner Torcaso to read by title only. Seconded by
Commissioner Langellotti. Discussion. Vote on the motion: Commissioner Torcaso,
aye; Commissioner Ferring, aye; Commissioner Langellotti, aye; Commissioner Gennell,
aye; Commissioner McLeod, aye; motion passes.
Motion was made by Commissioner Langellotti to table until the next meeting.
Seconded by Commissioner Gennell. Vote on the motion: Commissioner Ferring, aye;
Commissioner Langellotti, aye; Commissioner Gennell, aye; Commissioner McLeod,
aye; Commissioner Torcaso, no; motion passes.
There was no report from the City Attorney.
City Manager John Govoruhk:
Manager Govoruhk reported the zoning map is being updated, and will be on the agenda
for May 23, 1994 for approval.
The playground equipment has been installed and checked out. The putt-putt is still
on schedule and hopefully will be completed by June 15th.
Commission Seat V - David McLeod:
Commissioner McLeod asked for a breakdown of attorney fees from each Commissioner
on this Board.
Motion was made by Commissioner Ferring that we get rid of the $350 a month and we
put it in a pool and anybody that wants education can draw from that money. Motion
died for lack of a second.
The consensus of the Commission was for the Attorney to present such a bill.
Motion was made by Commissioner Ferring to nominate Kipton Lockcuff to be the
representative of the City of Winter Springs for the Lake Jesup project. Seconded
by Commissioner Torcaso. Discussion. Commissioner Gennell said the legislation
calls for it to be an elected official. Vote on the motion: Commissioner Langellotti,
no; Commissioner Gennell, no; Commissioner McLeod, no; Commissioner Torcaso, aye;
Commissioner Ferring, aye; motion fails.
Commission Seat I - John V. Torcaso:
Commissioner Torcaso remarked the two people at the end of this Commission Board
are not elected officials, both appointed. He saif if there is any mention of putting
an elected official in there, you better make sure it is an elected official.
Attorney Kruppenbacher said they are within the parameters of elected officials.
Commissioner Torcaso said he attended the opening of the Expressway at SR 434 on
Saturday.
Commission Seat II - John Ferring:
No report.
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Commission Seat III - John Langellotti:
Commissioner Langellotti asked the Utility Director if
odor on the golf course and Mr. Lockcuff answered they
could not detect any odor.
he solved the problem of the
were out there today and
Commission Seat IV - Cindy Gennell:
Commissioner Gennell reported she attended a workshop on the Central Florida
Regional Transportation Authority System about their final plans for bus lines.
Commissioner Gennell said she also attended the Orange Seminole Land Trust last
week. It is an effort to take the proposed bike path and trails that were all
pieces and parts of all cities' projects and super impose them on to one map and
hopefully make that map representative of what the E.C.F.R.P.C. wanted to go after.
The link that is going through Winter Springs is on 20,000 different lists, and it
was once called the Sanford Oviedo trail; once called Spring Hammock Oviedo Trail;
once called Lake Jesup Trail. Commissioner Gennell said last week she was success-
ful in getting them to call it the Winter Springs trail.
Commissioner Gennell gave a brief update on the 35th Anniversary celebration.
She said her only concern is about the available parking over at the Senior Center.
She said she would like some direction on how to handle that. She said the two
options are to have a public safety officer out there to monitor the traffic or to
release the ballfields for parking. The City Manager was asked to look into that.
Commissioner Gennell said as of this date $2,300 has been received. The date is
June 25th and the hourse of the exhibition at City Hall will be 10 a.m. to 3:00 p.m..
The guest speakers will be from 3:00 to 4:00 p.m. approximately and then a reception
will be held at the Senior Center from 4:30 to 6:00 p.m.
Commissioner Gennell said the City employees should be encouraged to feel free to
attend inasmuch as a lot of them may not live in the City; at least they should
feel they are a part of what has made this celebration possible.
Commissioner Ferring how much money has been expended so far. Mayor Bush asked
Manager Govoruhk to give the Commissioners a copy of the expenditures for the
celebration from the Finance Director.
Mayor's Office - John F. Bush:
Mayor Bush said he attended the dedication of the Winter Park Health center that is
going in with the Oviedo Crossings. He said he could not help but notice in the
presentation it was referred to as being in Oviedo. Mayor Bush said he pointed this
out to the gentleman and he apologized and he indicated he would ask the media to
enter Winter Springs into the information that was being distributed.
Mayor Bush said we all have to be cognizant of that because it does seem like people
do not realize the third largest city in Seminole County is Winter Springs, and unless
we say something nobody else will either.
Mayor Bush asked that the information on the traffic study for the Duda project be
made available for citizens to review.
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Mayor Bush apologized to the Commissioners for the short notice on the work session.
He said he felt it was necessary from the standpoint that McDonald's has plans before
us already. He said we are very loose what we are going to do with SR 434, and it
is time to get it started.
Commissioner Gennell spoke about the letter about the four foot bike lanes, and
she passed out copies.
Meeting adjourned 11:15 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
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Mary T. Norton,
City Clerk
Approved:
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,MAYOR
J N F. BUSH