HomeMy WebLinkAbout1994 01 17 City Commission Workshop Minutes
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WORKSHOP MEETING
CITY COMMISSION
CITY OF WINTER SPRINGS
JANUARY 17. 1994
The Workshop Meeting was called to order by Mayor John F. Bush at 9:00 p.m.
Roll Call:
Mayor John F. Bush. present
Deputy Mayor John V. Torcaso. present
City Manager John Govoruhk. present
Commissioners:
John L. Ferring, present
John Langellotti, present
Cindy Gennell. present
Discussion of the Stormwater Management Master Plan (Summary Report):
Mayor Bush opened the meeting and said the purpose of this meeting was for the
discussion of the Stormwater Management Master Plan.
Bill Holmes with Conklin, Porter & Holmes, Engineers. said we have our team here
tonight, Tom Mamott, Don Garham and Jim Myers from Gee and Jenson. He explained
this was a joint effort by both firms to put together this master plan. He said
they are here to review the summary report.
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Mr. Holmes explained this report was an outgrowth of the Comprehensive Planning
system within the State of Florida and the City, to be in compliance with the Plan,
had to come up with a master stormwater plan to identify how to deal with certain
deficiencies that are in the system. He explained what they did to identify the
things that really needed to be fixed. He said the Comprehensive Plan also had a
requirement in it to set a level of service on the stormwater facilities. He said
they also looked at whether a system would meet regulatory standards in terms of
stormwater retention. and that also relates to the level of service whether it would
meet the regulatory standards set up by both City Code. the Water Management District
and what the City's Comprehensive Plan indicated.
Mr. Holmes said after they identified the areas where deficiencies were they then
worked three alternatives or solutions for each of the problem areas. Then they
evaluated them in terms of initial cost, ecological impact of doing the impact on
the local area.aesthetics, reliability, cost, etc. to come up with a recommended
alternative which was then put into a prioritized system from what they developed
selected improvements to establish what the plan would be, a ten year plan.
Tom Mamott then discussed the drainage basins to familiarize the Commission with the
drainage basins in the City. He said there are three primary drainage basins in the
City: Soldier's Creek. Gee Creek and then Howell Creek. He said these drainage
basins not only encompass the City but tributary drainage upstream of the City. He
said they analyzed theportions that were in the City limits and took into account if
there was tributary drainage outside of the City limits.
Mr. Mamott said after the primary drainage basins were identified they took that
information and gathered some historical problem information from the City. He said
they went through an evaluation of that to try and select with City Staff a group of
sub-basins which they could analyze in more detail, and then he pointed to the six
sub-basins which were selected for futher analysis. He said these are listed in the
Summary Report. Page 2.
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Mr. Holmes said they knew there were several studies being done, so Conklin, Porter
& Holmes selected three basins they could do and three that Gee & Jenson could do
within the funding that was available at the time to try to identify and solve
problems, and then they analyzed those basins. In the report they did go back
and look at the studies that were done on the main streams by the major agencies and
determine where improvements were needed if they could identify them, and in that
portion there are some major type improvements that are recommended in this report.
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Mr. Holmes said the County presently has a contract to study Gee Creek in a somewhat
much higher level of detail and the City will be privileged to that report as soon as
it is issued as well as doing additional work in the little Lake Howell basin. The
Water Management District is now reviewing their master report for Lake Howell Branch.
Mr. Mamott explained once they identified through the detailed analysis and evaluation
and review of the previous drainage reports, they came up with a cumulative list of
deficiencies that were identified throughout the City's system and with those deficien-
cies that Mr. Holmes had mentioned before, they identified alternatives for
improvements and through evaluation of those alternatives, they came up with a
comprehensive list of recommendations. Those recommendations were prioritized which
you can find in the summary report.
Mr. Holmes said they reviewed this with the Staff to determine if they felt these items
should be handled and they tried to spread them out as much as they could in various
areas and they had to consider for the first year's budget what they could afford to
do with the money that was available.
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Commissioner Ferring said the Comprehensive Plan states the objective of the Comprehen-
sive Plan in this area is to issue revenue bonds and incur other debt as needed to
finance in whole or part the cost of such systems and to establish just and equitable
rates for the services provided.
Commissioner Ferring said they are putting the Commission in a difficult position when
this Stormwater Management Act has just been passed, and they have in there $149,000.
He said we have not even started and you are recommending increasing the current rate
from $2.04 a month to $2.50/3.00 a month. He said it is also in the report about pay
as you go and they are estimating that this Act will bring in approximately a quarter
million dollars a year, and based over a ten year projection, that comes to about
*$1,250,000. Mr. Ferring asked why can't we accomplish what our goals are and the
objectives that the Comprehensive Plan has put forth. He said we want to charge a
rate that is reasonable and equitable to the residents of this City and we have not
even got started and you are looking to increase it.*(Corrected to $2,500,000)
Mr. Holmes csaieLthey looked
recommendations.
at several different methods and they are just making
Commissioner Ferring said the Comprehensive Plan says we shall have a plan in place by
October 1993, which has been put in place. Now the implementation is going to be at
the discretion how we put it together. Mr. Ferring said we have put the plan together
and they have summarized it and now it is up to us to tell them which way we want to go
with it.
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Mr. Mamott explained all the ideas were brought up in the funding section of the major
report and essentially summarized in the summary report, page 17. He said this is
essentially just a summary of what they developed in the funding analysis, and they
have brought up several of the items raised such as bonding, grants and inter-
governmental agreements. He said there is a whole host that could run through but
essentially in their plan of study for this project they wanted to try to simply
identify the alternatives and come up with some initial recommendations of alternatives
of what may be available and what may be the best route to go.
After discussion, Mayor Bush summarized that the consensus of the Commission was to
accept this report with some minor tuning of the numbers and eliminate the section
that indicates an increase in the taxes at this point.
Mr. Holmes explained we need to leave something in there because it is a requirement
of the Comprehensive Plan when you list something that needs to be done, you are
supposed to identify a funding source.
Commissioner Gennell said if they just qualified it by saying the City has every in-
tention of staying within what they are at the time being.
Commissioner Ferring asked about issuing revenue bonds. He read from the Comprehensive
Plan: The City will implement the authorization by the Constitution and the provision
of the F.S. Chapter 166, Sec. 403.0893 to construct, reconstruct, improve and extend
stormwater systems to issue revenue bonds and incur other debt as needed to finance
in whole or in part the cost of such system and to establish just and equitable rates
and assessments for services and facilities provided by the system.
Commissioner Ferring suggested that be put in the report. The Commission asked that
it be added to page 17.
Mr. Holmes said it identifies a source but the Commission will still have to decide as
a group what they want to do and what they want to spend the money on and how to fund
it.
Meeting was adjourned 10:25 p. m.
Respectfully submitted,
Mary T. Norton,
City Clerk